| flocculant | morning | 06:39 |
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| bluesabre | morning all | 10:34 |
| flocculant | with doc freeze today - we got updates for our docs? | 11:42 |
| flocculant | slickymasterWork: ^^ | 11:42 |
| flocculant | nvm - stopped being lazy and went to look :) | 12:22 |
| flocculant | quick comment on that stuff - restricted drivers, why do we tell people all that usc-edit-software sources and settings manager - software/updates | 13:13 |
| flocculant | when people just need to type additional or less in menu text box and open additional drivers from there? | 13:13 |
| flocculant | and I assume there's an easy way to read the docs rather than the xml files | 13:22 |
| krytarik | flocculant: I'm usually using this, ftm: https://unit193.net/xubuntu/docs/ | 13:29 |
| flocculant | krytarik: is that wily? | 13:29 |
| krytarik | Yep - look at the revision number. :) | 13:30 |
| flocculant | hah | 13:30 |
| krytarik | Or the version up top. LOL | 13:30 |
| flocculant | the revision number means zilch if you don't know where it is now :D | 13:30 |
| flocculant | wily could be 752 ... | 13:31 |
| krytarik | Yep. | 13:31 |
| flocculant | anyway - assume it is - has LO in it :p | 13:31 |
| krytarik | "Welcome to Xubuntu 15.10 Documentation!" :P | 13:31 |
| slickymasterWork | flocculant: we now, do have the pdf's | 13:31 |
| flocculant | I tried building it - just got a bunch of recipe errors - whatever they are | 13:31 |
| krytarik | flocculant: Probably missing build depends. | 13:32 |
| flocculant | krytarik: ha ha ha - I never read the 'you need these tools' bits of manuals either :) | 13:32 |
| flocculant | krytarik: yea - was my assumption - so just 'read' the xml | 13:32 |
| flocculant | slickymasterWork: yea - I have seen those discussions ongoing | 13:33 |
| flocculant | and hi :) | 13:33 |
| krytarik | flocculant: Or just build the HTML version, for example. | 13:33 |
| slickymasterWork | flocculant: check if you have coreutils (>= 8.16), debhelper (>= 9), docbook-xml, docbook-xsl, fonts-droid, fop, gnome-doc-utils and xsltproc | 13:33 |
| slickymasterWork | you'll need them to build the -docs | 13:33 |
| slickymasterWork | and also hi ;) | 13:33 |
| slickymasterWork | and krytarik, of course | 13:34 |
| krytarik | Hah, yeah, you too. :D | 13:34 |
| flocculant | slickymasterWork: didn't have some | 13:35 |
| flocculant | I'd pieced together some things from the docs team wiki | 13:35 |
| slickymasterWork | there you have it. That's why you were'nt being able to build it | 13:35 |
| flocculant | doing more this time - building pdf's :) | 13:36 |
| slickymasterWork | :) | 13:36 |
| flocculant | though bit late this cycle to be looking ;) | 13:37 |
| * slickymasterWork smiles | 13:37 | |
| flocculant | if you're really unlucky I might next cycle :p | 13:38 |
| slickymasterWork | hah | 13:38 |
| flocculant | slickymasterWork: all that aside - did you see comment re restricted drivers? | 13:38 |
| slickymasterWork | was reading it now | 13:39 |
| slickymasterWork | now I lost them | 13:40 |
| slickymasterWork | will have to wait until http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/09/17/%23xubuntu-devel.html catch up | 13:40 |
| flocculant | <flocculant> quick comment on that stuff - restricted drivers, why do we tell people all that usc-edit-software sources and settings manager - software/updates | 13:40 |
| flocculant | <flocculant> when people just need to type additional or less in menu text box and open additional drivers from there? | 13:40 |
| flocculant | or not :) | 13:41 |
| flocculant | something to ponder in a month or two :) | 13:41 |
| slickymasterWork | well, that section is prior to menulibre, I think that's the reason | 13:41 |
| slickymasterWork | I'll put that correction on my todo list | 13:42 |
| flocculant | just a thought | 13:42 |
| flocculant | less to read :) | 13:42 |
| slickymasterWork | not so much a correction but some additional info on that | 13:42 |
| slickymasterWork | stop being so lazy :P | 13:42 |
| flocculant | ha ha | 13:43 |
| * slickymasterWork is the same, tbh | 13:43 | |
| flocculant | also - quick lesson in searching menulibre | 13:43 |
| flocculant | two birds with one stone - even lazier \o/ | 13:43 |
| slickymasterWork | yeah, kind of killing two rabbits with one stone | 13:43 |
| flocculant | much better - more meat | 13:43 |
| flocculant | unless it's a really bug stone | 13:44 |
| * slickymasterWork was convinced that in en the old saying was with rabbits, not with birds | 13:44 | |
| flocculant | s/bug/big | 13:44 |
| flocculant | well - we are different nationalties | 13:44 |
| slickymasterWork | in pt, it's with birds | 13:44 |
| flocculant | it is here too | 13:45 |
| slickymasterWork | my mistake then | 13:45 |
| krytarik | flocculant: Ftm, if you want to fix something, look at the intro on the startpage. :) | 13:49 |
| flocculant | and which page is that | 13:52 |
| flocculant | the one with 15.10 on it? | 13:53 |
| krytarik | Yep. | 13:53 |
| flocculant | bah | 13:53 |
| flocculant | why does that say to ... | 13:53 |
| flocculant | provides information to the most | 13:54 |
| slickymasterWork | that paragraph has been there since (slighted altered) since I remember flocculant | 13:55 |
| flocculant | let's change that before 16.04 then :) | 13:55 |
| slickymasterWork | it has been change in 15.04, or 14.10 iirc | 13:56 |
| flocculant | I could have sworn knome and I were looking at something like that recentlyish | 13:56 |
| flocculant | might have been slideshow ... | 13:56 |
| slickymasterWork | maybe | 13:57 |
| flocculant | mmm | 13:57 |
| slickymasterWork | what about it do you disagree? | 13:57 |
| krytarik | flocculant: That was here: https://unit193.net/xubuntu/docs/C/index.html | 13:57 |
| flocculant | aaah yes | 13:58 |
| flocculant | slickymasterWork: to needs to be on at the least | 13:58 |
| slickymasterWork | yeah, but that relates to the copyright stuff | 13:58 |
| flocculant | not sure we're talking about the same thing | 13:59 |
| slickymasterWork | so "The Official Documentation provides information on the most common issues with Xubuntu." instead? | 13:59 |
| slickymasterWork | flocculant ^^ | 13:59 |
| flocculant | yea | 13:59 |
| flocculant | or "on some of" | 14:00 |
| flocculant | but not 'to' | 14:00 |
| slickymasterWork | ok, adding it also to my todo list | 14:00 |
| flocculant | slickymasterWork: is this todo list for xx ? | 14:00 |
| slickymasterWork | the irony, a lazy one putting some extra work on me :P | 14:00 |
| flocculant | ha ha | 14:00 |
| slickymasterWork | yes, for the x cycle | 14:01 |
| flocculant | I can do an MP :) | 14:01 |
| slickymasterWork | I'd do it now, but over here I'm unable, was thinking of doing it tonight | 14:01 |
| flocculant | ok - well I'd not take too much notice of that just yet then, you can xx workitem me for reading through the whole lot | 14:01 |
| flocculant | which might be a longer list ... | 14:02 |
| slickymasterWork | but if you want you can, I'll review and merge later when I get home | 14:02 |
| flocculant | ok | 14:02 |
| qwebirc298254 | flocculant, yeah, if going to do it, please deal also with the restricted drivers | 14:03 |
| krytarik | qwebirc298254: I'd plan *that* for the X series though. | 14:04 |
| qwebirc298254 | well, if he's eager to work krytarik, don't stop him | 14:05 |
| krytarik | The other can and should still be done now. | 14:05 |
| krytarik | + one | 14:05 |
| qwebirc298254 | but yes, I was planning it for X | 14:05 |
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| krytarik | I'm referring to the need to (re-)translate stuff - Doc String Freeze is today. | 14:06 |
| flocculant | which is why I was saying maybe leave it all as it's doc freeze day | 14:07 |
| krytarik | Not relevant for the startpage though. | 14:07 |
| flocculant | so - do that or not? | 14:07 |
| krytarik | Yep, do that. :) | 14:07 |
| krytarik | But not the other one. | 14:08 |
| krytarik | I mean, yep it's on the spot, but still. :P | 14:08 |
| slickymasterWork | well the source doc strings have be in order today, but it's still day ;) | 14:08 |
| slickymasterWork | and doc string freeze doesn't mean translations krytarik | 14:09 |
| krytarik | slickymasterWork: Like I said, we could still do it, but I'd rather *not* have everyone retranslate that due to such a slight change. ;P | 14:11 |
| flocculant | well I pushed it - seems to have got mixed up with the thing still pending from before | 14:12 |
| slickymasterWork | I'm not disagreeing with you krytarik, just stating that translators should technically start their work after doc freeze | 14:12 |
| flocculant | and I would agree that no reason to look at restricted today | 14:13 |
| flocculant | again that's been the same since we got menulibre and additional drivers - at least 1 cycle | 14:13 |
| slickymasterWork | but that's not my policy as you know, otherwise I wouldn't make those translators calls at the start of each cycle | 14:13 |
| slickymasterWork | this one flocculant-> https://code.launchpad.net/~flocculant/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs | 14:15 |
| flocculant | slickymasterWork: that's what I mean by mixed up - that's the one that unit has showing that krytarik pointed at | 14:16 |
| flocculant | guess because it was left pending | 14:16 |
| flocculant | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~flocculant/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/revision/436 | 14:16 |
| flocculant | is what I just did | 14:16 |
| flocculant | no idea tbh - stupid bzr | 14:17 |
| slickymasterWork | yeah rev 404 is already merged | 14:18 |
| slickymasterWork | I'll deal with rev 436 when I get home flocculant | 14:18 |
| flocculant | ok :) | 14:19 |
| krytarik | flocculant: Since it also says "Merged", it'd seem that's just for historical purposes - just MP again now. | 14:20 |
| flocculant | do it again? | 14:21 |
| slickymasterWork | did you do it the first time? | 14:21 |
| krytarik | flocculant: No, you just pushed, didn't MP yet. | 14:21 |
| slickymasterWork | I'm asking because I didn't get the mail about the MP flocculant? | 14:22 |
| slickymasterWork | exactly krytarik | 14:22 |
| flocculant | remember now ... only done half of it :) | 14:22 |
| krytarik | lol | 14:22 |
| slickymasterWork | tss tss... silly lazy flocculant | 14:23 |
| flocculant | done :) | 14:23 |
| flocculant | slickymasterWork: I can read the whole lot now and find some more ... | 14:23 |
| krytarik | Hah, and the other one is gone now. :P | 14:24 |
| slickymasterWork | some more wthat, flocculant? | 14:24 |
| flocculant | one or two word fixes if you really think I'm silly lazy flocculant :p | 14:25 |
| slickymasterWork | hahahahah | 14:25 |
| slickymasterWork | don't overburden yourself ;P | 14:26 |
| flocculant | :D | 14:26 |
| krytarik | Personally, I think the whole sentence needs an overhaul that doesn't involve the word "issues". :D | 14:29 |
| krytarik | (But that'd be for X too.) | 14:30 |
| flocculant | well - as I said, I'll look at the whole caboodle if slickymasterWork puts a workitem on docs bp :) | 14:30 |
| krytarik | flocculant: Can't you add yourself? | 14:31 |
| flocculant | I could | 14:31 |
| slickymasterWork | gentlemen -> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-x-docs | 14:31 |
| flocculant | but that's like carrying extra load deliberately :D | 14:31 |
| slickymasterWork | just assign it to me flocculant | 14:32 |
| flocculant | assign what? | 14:32 |
| slickymasterWork | I'll look at the whole caboodle if slickymasterWork puts a workitem on docs bp :) | 14:33 |
| slickymasterWork | that was you ^^^ | 14:33 |
| flocculant | I've added me :) | 14:33 |
| slickymasterWork | good boy :) | 14:33 |
| SwissBot | feed xubuntu-docs had 4 updates, showing the latest 3 | 15:03 |
| slickymaster | flocculant ^^ | 18:28 |
| knome | slickymaster, you want those in for this cycle? | 20:43 |
| flocculant | slickymaster: saw - thanks | 20:44 |
| flocculant | hi knome :) | 20:44 |
| knome | hey flow-currant | 20:44 |
| flocculant | oh my | 20:44 |
| knome | ;)= | 20:44 |
| flocculant | that's a bit risque ... | 20:44 |
| flocculant | :D | 20:44 |
| knome | it's a less known sibling of blackcurrant | 20:44 |
| flocculant | won't like | 20:45 |
| knome | much more tart and sour | 20:45 |
| flocculant | sounds about right though | 20:45 |
| knome | yep | 20:45 |
| flocculant | heh | 20:45 |
| knome | (i'm just kidding) | 20:45 |
| knome | of course.. | 20:45 |
| flocculant | ... | 20:46 |
| flocculant | I'm not ;) | 20:46 |
| knome | and for the docs issue - since it's the startpage, nvm me | 20:46 |
| FlavioVinicius | Boa tarde! | 21:18 |
| knome | ummm... hello | 21:18 |
| FlavioVinicius | Estive agora a pouco no canal com uma dúvida, sobre as traduções da documentação do Xubuntu. | 21:19 |
| FlavioVinicius | Alguém no canal faz parte do team de traduções? | 21:19 |
| knome | english please | 21:19 |
| FlavioVinicius | sorry guys rsrs | 21:20 |
| FlavioVinicius | i forgot that by a second | 21:20 |
| knome | no problem | 21:20 |
| FlavioVinicius | Is there anyone here who get involved in the team traductions? | 21:21 |
| knome | traductions? do you mean translations? | 21:22 |
| FlavioVinicius | knome: yes | 21:22 |
| FlavioVinicius | ^^ | 21:23 |
| knome | sure | 21:23 |
| knome | what's up? | 21:23 |
| FlavioVinicius | i'll try to explain for you what i want to know... but my english is not that good | 21:25 |
| knome | it looks ok this far :) | 21:27 |
| FlavioVinicius | Documentation in Portuguese Brazil is hard to find. There are several suggestions on the launchpad, but it makes two months that no updates. How can I do to help to speed up this process? | 21:32 |
| knome | right, you'll need somebody who can review the translations | 21:33 |
| knome | let me dig up some information. | 21:33 |
| knome | FlavioVinicius, https://launchpad.net/~lp-l10n-pt-br | 21:35 |
| knome | FlavioVinicius, people in that team (contact information and more on the description) should be able to help | 21:36 |
| knome | i don't understand portuguese, but i'd imagine it has the information you need | 21:36 |
| knome | sorry, that's the wrong team.. | 21:37 |
| knome | FlavioVinicius, it would be this: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-pt-br | 21:37 |
| knome | but both of those teams should be more or less useful | 21:38 |
| knome | FlavioVinicius, but generally, you will need to have at least 70% of the documentation translated until it will be included in the ISO | 21:39 |
| knome | FlavioVinicius, once that's done, it will be included without any further actions really | 21:39 |
| knome | (those 70% need to be reviewed) | 21:39 |
| FlavioVinicius | knome: Thanks, I will try to contact and follow the information that is available on the pages you posted. | 21:41 |
| knome | sure, np | 21:41 |
| knome | if you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask - we'll help if we cna | 21:41 |
| knome | and thanks for the interest and work with the translations! | 21:42 |
| FlavioVinicius | I know thats necessary 70% of the documentation translated, but i wanna know why the review take so long. I'll contact the team. | 21:42 |
| FlavioVinicius | :) | 21:42 |
| knome | i don't know how the process actually goes (i guess i should, i'm a reviewer too...) but maybe they just aren't aware of it | 21:44 |
| bluesabre | knome: need an upload tonight? | 21:44 |
| knome | bluesabre, nah. it was the startpage, so it's not translatable anyway | 21:44 |
| knome | bluesabre, thanks for asking though :) | 21:44 |
| bluesabre | knome: any time | 21:44 |
| knome | that said, we might want to think about making that translatable at some point too | 21:45 |
| knome | and more specifically, get it into the docbook system | 21:45 |
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