[15:07] <klubuntu> is LXDE THE MOST lightweight DESKTOP enviroment?
[15:13] <bioterror> klubuntu, environment yes
[15:50] <rahulbansal> I installed a package, when I try to execute it, it runs, but when I try to uninstall it, terminal says package not installed. How can I uninstall that package ?
[15:55] <CooloutAC> how did you install it?
[15:56] <rahulbansal> I have 2 versions of proxychains 3 and 4 . I installed the 3rd version using the sudo apt-get install and 4 th version, using the zip file
[15:57] <rahulbansal> I removed the 3rd version, which removed the config file common to both of them
[15:57] <CooloutAC> ok you lost me sorry i'm noob lol
[15:58] <CooloutAC> the 4th version most likely you will have to go and delete it everywhere it is
[15:58] <CooloutAC> you can do a fake install just to see where it puts the stuff
[15:58] <CooloutAC> then manually delete it
[15:58] <rahulbansal> I want to avoid it
[15:59] <CooloutAC> you want to avoid what?
[15:59] <CooloutAC> manually removing the files?  you have no choice
[15:59] <CooloutAC> its the same when you do a make install,  since they almost never put an uninstaller in there
[15:59] <CooloutAC> you have to manually remove the files wherever they go
[15:59] <rahulbansal> using locate command will help ?
[16:00] <rahulbansal> to find all the location of the file
[16:00] <CooloutAC> how did you install it using a zip file i don't understand
[16:00] <rahulbansal> ./configure
[16:00] <rahulbansal> make
[16:00] <rahulbansal> make install
[16:00] <CooloutAC> right ok so
[16:00] <CooloutAC> there is no uninstaller for that
[16:00] <rahulbansal> how to find htat
[16:00] <CooloutAC> what you can do is the command for a test make install
[16:00] <CooloutAC> and then look at all the places it puts it
[16:00] <CooloutAC> i forget command i have to look it up
[16:01] <rahulbansal> there is a way to make test install ?
[16:01] <CooloutAC> yes
[16:01] <rahulbansal> let me check that
[16:01] <CooloutAC> i'm looking too
[16:01] <CooloutAC> i think make test?
[16:01] <CooloutAC> try that
[16:02] <CooloutAC> instead of make install
[16:02] <CooloutAC> or make install test
[16:02] <CooloutAC> still looking
[16:02] <rahulbansal> it does not work
[16:02] <rahulbansal> its checkinstall
[16:03] <CooloutAC> make -n install
[16:03] <CooloutAC> ^
[16:03] <CooloutAC> run that,  then look in the terminal at all the places it puts files,  manually go there and delete them
[16:03] <CooloutAC> you can try a make uninstall first
[16:03] <CooloutAC> but i doubt the package has it
[16:04] <CooloutAC> if not you have to do it the other way
[16:04] <CooloutAC> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1439950/whats-the-opposite-of-make-install-ie-how-do-you-uninstall-a-library-in-lin
[16:04] <CooloutAC> rahulbansal: make -n install,  did you try it?
[16:04] <CooloutAC> thats what i have done in the past
[16:05] <rahulbansal> k
[16:05] <rahulbansal> i am trying it
[16:05] <rahulbansal> it says nothing to be done for install
[16:05] <CooloutAC> make uninstall,  if that dont' work make -n install
[16:05] <CooloutAC> what?
[16:05] <CooloutAC> did you do it in the same directory?
[16:06] <rahulbansal> yes
[16:06] <rahulbansal> make: *** No rule to make target 'uninstall'.  Stop.
[16:06] <CooloutAC> I don't know what to tell you then bud,  that should work
[16:06] <rahulbansal> getting this error
[16:06] <CooloutAC> ok so now do make -n install
[16:07] <CooloutAC> and look at all the steps and directories it puts files and manually go there and delete them
[16:07] <rahulbansal> make: Nothing to be done for 'install'.
[16:08] <CooloutAC> i can't help you then
[16:08] <CooloutAC> maybe delete the folder and unzip and start over
[16:08] <CooloutAC> and this time instead of doing make install
[16:08] <CooloutAC> do make -n install
[16:09] <CooloutAC> do make clean first maybe
[16:09] <CooloutAC> then make -n install
[16:09] <CooloutAC> if not do it all over then do make -n install
[16:09] <CooloutAC> and look at all the steps
[16:10] <rahulbansal> which folder to delete ?
[16:11] <CooloutAC> the one you unzipped
[16:11] <CooloutAC> maybe someone else can help you man sorry
[16:11] <CooloutAC> that is the folder you should be running the command in
[16:11] <CooloutAC> the same folder you did make install the first time
[16:11] <rahulbansal> command works from everywhre
[16:11] <CooloutAC> wrong
[16:12] <rahulbansal> what ?
[16:12] <CooloutAC> you told me you did make install to install it right?
[16:12] <rahulbansal> yes
[16:12] <CooloutAC> so go to that folder you typed make install and type make -n install
[16:12] <rahulbansal> when I do that, i gets the error
[16:12] <rahulbansal> make: Nothing to be done for 'install'.
[16:12] <CooloutAC> don't know what to tell you
[16:12] <CooloutAC> go ask in #ubuntu
[16:13] <CooloutAC> do make clean in that folder first
[16:13] <rahulbansal> did that, nobody is replygin
[16:13] <CooloutAC> or remove the folder and unzip again and do it all over
[16:13] <rahulbansal> ok
[16:13] <CooloutAC> just like how you did it the first time,  except instead of doing make install,   do make -n install
[16:13] <CooloutAC> then look at all the steps it takes on screen and go to the folders it puts files and delete those files
[17:02] <Smirnov> i'm trying to find a pager with a 2d workspace grid for LXDE. is it possible?
[17:03] <Smirnov> I was able to manually tweak openbox into giving me a 2d workspace grid, but the lxpanel desktop pager is busted because it only shows everything in the first workspace
[17:03] <CooloutAC> what is a 2d workspace grid?
[17:03] <Smirnov> am I completly SOL without switching out lxpanel with something else?
[17:04] <Smirnov> CooloutAC: it means a rectangular workspace (e.g. 3x3) instead of flat (1x3) , see for example here (except its unity 2d so doesnt apply) http://askubuntu.com/questions/21755/how-to-add-multiple-workspaces-in-unity-2d
[17:08] <CooloutAC> can't you set it to 3x3?
[17:09] <CooloutAC> is there a dconf editor or something in lubuntu i'm not on my machine
[17:10] <CooloutAC> Smirnov: what if you do soemthing like this but make ie 0 3 3 0 https://superuser.com/questions/347528/openbox-make-4-desktops-2x2
[17:11] <CooloutAC> Smirnov:  http://java.divshot.io/en/Chapter-IV/Part-V:-Layouts.html
[17:17] <CooloutAC> Brightside is another suggestion i see online instead of setlayout
[17:18] <CooloutAC> on my name machine i use compiz which would have your option but i don't know if thats practical for you
[17:18] <CooloutAC> *gnome
[17:19] <Smirnov> I did use 'setlayout' with 0 3 3 0 and it was fine, the pager is the problem
[17:19] <Smirnov> yeah I just think I might end up switching to gnome classic
[17:25] <CooloutAC> oh you mean in the panel?
[17:25] <CooloutAC> ya thats what i use the compiz on gnome classic on another machine
[17:25] <CooloutAC> i guess if you got enough memory
[17:25] <CooloutAC> I use lxde on a machine cause i only got the 1 gb of slow ram
[17:26] <CooloutAC> Smirnov: does openbox have a pager?
[17:27] <Smirnov> i have plenty of ram, i just dont like the 3d shit
[17:27] <Smirnov> openbox just says to use something like rox-pager which seems to require another panel (not lxpanel)
[17:28] <CooloutAC> hm
[20:23] <NOOB_> hi.  i am having a problem with my phone generating issues with my laptop when plugged in.  it is generating "couldn't find matching udev device" errors.  i found this. http://blog.mpshouse.com/?p=609 but when i do lsusb my phone is not listed.  please advise
[20:33] <Smirnov> CooloutAC: well I switched to gnome classic. works lightning fast and does everything I want.
[20:33] <CooloutAC> nice!
[20:33] <CooloutAC> ya i love the gnome-classic
[20:33] <CooloutAC> I use it on trisquel another ubuntu fork
[20:35] <Smirnov> i dont like all these new whizzbang 3d uis, just kills performance the moment you have more than 4 windows open
[20:35] <Smirnov> maybe if they figured out how to properly swap graphics memory...
[20:35] <Smirnov> games have no problem displaying 1000s of objects but people cant write a non-laggy WM displaying 100 windows
[20:35] <CooloutAC> Smirnov: ya haha