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lotuspsychjegood morning mates01:38
lotuspsychjeim installing 2 boxes with ubuntu that have mint + cinnamon on, the user had many issues with hibernation, system freezes,browser crashes,..01:40
lotuspsychjethe guy spent 7 hours installing mint + packages on 1 box oO01:40
lotuspsychjeand counted every hour working on it, she had to pay 300$01:41
daftykins:S to whom? or her own time?01:43
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Ouch for her ! I feel like she has been "taken" .01:43
lotuspsychjeyes, he sat there drinking coffee, in her time01:43
lotuspsychjewth...01:43
lotuspsychjei once installed ubuntu on it for her, and he made a dualboot out of it with mint01:44
daftykinswho is this joker :D01:44
lotuspsychjebecause she follows a linux class, and he's the teacher addicted to mint, he could overwelm her with that mints better01:45
lotuspsychjelol01:45
Bashing-omI HopE it is no one we know .01:45
lotuspsychjei feel embarrassed for my country lol01:46
lotuspsychjei told her not to work with him anymore and pass her 2 laptops to me01:46
lotuspsychjeim doing both format in 1 hour lol01:46
lotuspsychjei wonder why so many users love mint, didnt cinnamon have big issues?01:47
Bashing-om~~01:48
lotuspsychjeor is it just mint's structure01:48
lotuspsychjethe desktop felt green and minimal, but under the hood many issues01:49
daftykinsit was definitely leaky to begin with01:51
daftykinsi don't really understand why anyone would choose to get something second rate when they can get it at source, but then i suppose that's true in a manner of speaking with Ubuntu -> debian :)01:52
daftykinsjust i found debian never had sane defaults01:52
lotuspsychjeand not so user friendly at the beginning01:53
daftykinsja01:53
lotuspsychjelol01:53
Bashing-omMy intro was slackware, I found ubuntu a breath of fresh air .01:54
lotuspsychjecool01:54
lotuspsychjemine was early redhat01:55
lotuspsychjecould choose gnome, kde or enlightment01:56
daftykinsi followed some debian network install guides :>01:56
lotuspsychjethe guy changed bios mode to IDE instead of AHCI for dualboot w7 + mint wtf02:09
daftykins>_<02:14
daftykinstime for me to clock out, later folks \o02:16
lotuspsychjedaftykins: nite nite02:40
OerHeksLoLz, a mint teacher ..02:42
OerHeksoh, i should say sad sad, a mint teacher02:43
lotuspsychjelol03:28
lotuspsychjemorning OerHeks03:28
lotuspsychje!find generic firmware06:30
ubot5firmware is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed06:30
lotuspsychje!find generic-firmware06:31
ubot5Found: W:, W:, W:06:31
lordievaderGood morning08:06
MonkeyDustmy banking account ... using Tor browser ... inside a linux VM guest, with iptables enabled ... inside a linux host with iptabled enabled ... please tell me i'm being paranoid09:29
lordievaderHow many layers of encryption at the tor endpoint?09:37
MonkeyDustmedium-high security, what does that say09:41
lordievaderThat is not what I am asking. Do you have just an ssl layer from the tor endpoint to the bank website?09:42
MonkeyDustnot sure, i accepted the default options09:42
lordievaderBecause if you where really paranoid you'd have like a million layers of encryption on your connections to the bank.09:43
MonkeyDustthanks, that makes me feel a bit normal again09:44
lordievader:P09:44
MonkeyDusti was worrying about my mental sanity09:45
lordievaderToo bad banks usually only support ssl.09:46
lotuspsychjemorning lordievader09:48
lordievaderlotuspsychje: Just in time ;)09:49
MonkeyDustthere's some SSL observe plugin installed09:49
lotuspsychjelordievader: whats going on :p09:51
lordievaderNot much, taking a break from studying for a bit.09:51
lordievaderHow are you doing?09:51
lotuspsychjegreat, i found that ralink module on my own desktop, uses a generic firmware version09:52
lotuspsychjeim wondering wich packages ubuntu installs on updates that have these generic firmwares in?09:53
lordievaderYou mean reverse dep on linux-firmware?09:55
lotuspsychjenot sure09:55
lordievaderlotuspsychje: https://paste.kde.org/pft6t2hf109:55
lotuspsychjeso the default module is rt2800pci.ko right09:55
lotuspsychjehow can i see wich packages hold this generic firmware09:56
lordievaderlotuspsychje: Search for it with apt-file09:57
lotuspsychjeupdating apt-file09:59
lotuspsychjelinux-image-extra-3.19.0-28-generic: /lib/modules/3.19.0-28-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/rt2800pci.ko10:01
lotuspsychjeget a large index of dirs here10:01
lordievaderSo it is in many packages then ;) But it comes with the kernel.10:03
lotuspsychjeso you think that generic firmware is in the newer kernel and thats why on updated system the wifi card works?10:04
lotuspsychjei dont know the exact name of the generic firmware package10:06
lotuspsychjeshows like this: driver= rt2800pci driverversion= generic firmware and a number10:07
daftykinsthis hntty is a right asshat23:29

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