[01:38] good morning mates [01:40] im installing 2 boxes with ubuntu that have mint + cinnamon on, the user had many issues with hibernation, system freezes,browser crashes,.. [01:40] the guy spent 7 hours installing mint + packages on 1 box oO [01:41] and counted every hour working on it, she had to pay 300$ [01:43] :S to whom? or her own time? [01:43] lotuspsychje: Ouch for her ! I feel like she has been "taken" . [01:43] yes, he sat there drinking coffee, in her time [01:43] wth... [01:44] i once installed ubuntu on it for her, and he made a dualboot out of it with mint [01:44] who is this joker :D [01:45] because she follows a linux class, and he's the teacher addicted to mint, he could overwelm her with that mints better [01:45] lol [01:45] I HopE it is no one we know . [01:46] i feel embarrassed for my country lol [01:46] i told her not to work with him anymore and pass her 2 laptops to me [01:46] im doing both format in 1 hour lol [01:47] i wonder why so many users love mint, didnt cinnamon have big issues? [01:48] ~~ [01:48] or is it just mint's structure [01:49] the desktop felt green and minimal, but under the hood many issues [01:51] it was definitely leaky to begin with [01:52] i don't really understand why anyone would choose to get something second rate when they can get it at source, but then i suppose that's true in a manner of speaking with Ubuntu -> debian :) [01:52] just i found debian never had sane defaults [01:53] and not so user friendly at the beginning [01:53] ja [01:53] lol [01:54] My intro was slackware, I found ubuntu a breath of fresh air . [01:54] cool [01:55] mine was early redhat [01:56] could choose gnome, kde or enlightment [01:56] i followed some debian network install guides :> [02:09] the guy changed bios mode to IDE instead of AHCI for dualboot w7 + mint wtf [02:14] >_< [02:16] time for me to clock out, later folks \o [02:40] daftykins: nite nite [02:42] LoLz, a mint teacher .. [02:43] oh, i should say sad sad, a mint teacher [03:28] lol [03:28] morning OerHeks [06:30] !find generic firmware [06:30] firmware is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed [06:31] !find generic-firmware [06:31] Found: W:, W:, W: [08:06] Good morning [09:29] my banking account ... using Tor browser ... inside a linux VM guest, with iptables enabled ... inside a linux host with iptabled enabled ... please tell me i'm being paranoid [09:37] How many layers of encryption at the tor endpoint? [09:41] medium-high security, what does that say [09:42] That is not what I am asking. Do you have just an ssl layer from the tor endpoint to the bank website? [09:42] not sure, i accepted the default options [09:43] Because if you where really paranoid you'd have like a million layers of encryption on your connections to the bank. [09:44] thanks, that makes me feel a bit normal again [09:44] :P [09:45] i was worrying about my mental sanity [09:46] Too bad banks usually only support ssl. [09:48] morning lordievader [09:49] lotuspsychje: Just in time ;) [09:49] there's some SSL observe plugin installed [09:51] lordievader: whats going on :p [09:51] Not much, taking a break from studying for a bit. [09:51] How are you doing? [09:52] great, i found that ralink module on my own desktop, uses a generic firmware version [09:53] im wondering wich packages ubuntu installs on updates that have these generic firmwares in? [09:55] You mean reverse dep on linux-firmware? [09:55] not sure [09:55] lotuspsychje: https://paste.kde.org/pft6t2hf1 [09:55] so the default module is rt2800pci.ko right [09:56] how can i see wich packages hold this generic firmware [09:57] lotuspsychje: Search for it with apt-file [09:59] updating apt-file [10:01] linux-image-extra-3.19.0-28-generic: /lib/modules/3.19.0-28-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/rt2800pci.ko [10:01] get a large index of dirs here [10:03] So it is in many packages then ;) But it comes with the kernel. [10:04] so you think that generic firmware is in the newer kernel and thats why on updated system the wifi card works? [10:06] i dont know the exact name of the generic firmware package [10:07] shows like this: driver= rt2800pci driverversion= generic firmware and a number [23:29] this hntty is a right asshat