[00:00] <Volund> oh right *installs git*
[00:01] <Chuck_Norris> yeah, sudo apt-get install git
[00:02] <cantunn> Chuck_Norris:
[00:02] <cantunn> Volund:
[00:02] <Chuck_Norris> Volund: then, git clone https://github.com/sunmockyang/puush-linux.git,  read "Instructions" in the git like that i gave you
[00:04] <cantunn> Chuck_Norris: right
[00:07] <SuperOmegaCow> Could someone help me with this, I am getting on error on line 29 for my iptables
[00:07] <SuperOmegaCow> http://pastebin.com/Ba0EVrxC
[00:09] <Chuck_Norris> SuperOmegaCow: /j #netfilter
[00:09] <cantunn> Chuck_Norris: whoa that's not it
[00:10] <Chuck_Norris> i'll ignore ya boy, cuz writin' nonsense and pming me
[00:11] <SuperOmegaCow> I am trying to forward traffic from port 80 to 8080 (I realize in the pastebin it doesnt specify that)
[00:11] <Chuck_Norris> he was insulting me in pm, now he is ignored by me :D
[00:12] <cantunn> SuperOmegaCow: easy way is to open both
[00:12] <SuperOmegaCow> cantunn, I would rather not give users access to port 80
[00:13] <Epx998> I have a problem, i've installed the 3.13.0-44-generic kernel, but my grub refuses to update and load the new kernel.
[00:13] <Epx998> . /boot shows the correct new kernel
[00:13] <Epx998> any ideas?
[00:14] <OerHeks> Epx998, what error do you get when updating grub, nice idea to tell us
[00:14] <Epx998> There is no error
[00:14] <Epx998> buildbrain@mobile-u64-571:/boot$ sudo update-grub
[00:14] <Epx998> Generating grub.cfg ...
[00:14] <Epx998> cat: /boot/grub/video.lst: No such file or directory
[00:14] <Epx998> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic
[00:14] <Epx998> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic
[00:14] <Epx998> done
[00:14] <OerHeks> Epx998, so how do you tell grub refuses to update?
[00:15] <OerHeks> !paste
[00:15] <N3TN1NJ4> OerHeks - Paste your text into the big white box @ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com, then click the "Send" button below the big white box. Let us know when you're done.
[00:15] <OerHeks> !ops | N3TN1NJ4 is back with a bot
[00:15] <Bashing-om> export_: 14,04 ? " sysop@1404mini:~$ uname -r >> 3.13.0-63-generic " why the -44 version kernel ?
[00:15] <cantunn> SuperOmegaCow: why
[00:16] <Epx998> OerHeks: because when I reboot the server, its still showing 3.2.0-75-generic
[00:16] <Bashing-om> Epx998: 14.04 ? " sysop@1404mini:~$ uname -r >> 3.13.0-63-generic " why the -44 version kernel ?
[00:16] <Epx998> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12443737/
[00:17] <Epx998> 12.04
[00:17] <Epx998> Bashing-om: It was requested by our developer team.
[00:17] <Chuck_Norris> SuperOmegaCow: i suggested you that connect to the iptables channel, to see if they can help you
[00:17] <Epx998> Im deploying the update to about 900 servers, first batch of 20, this is the only one not taking the update.
[00:20] <Epx998> hmm
[00:20] <Bashing-om> Epx998: On this one server, is HWE enabled ? ' hwe-support-status --verbose ' .
[00:21] <Epx998> supported till April 2017
[00:21] <Aqui1a> Hey guys... Having a bit of trouble setting up Dropbox on my fresh install of Ubuntu. I'm trying to assign the Dropbox folder to my second hard drive, but in the 'Find Directory' windows, only the drive Ubuntu is installed to is listed. How do I put it on my other drive?
[00:22] <reisio> Aqui1a: 2nd drive mounted?
[00:22] <OerHeks> A
[00:22] <OerHeks> res
[00:22] <OerHeks> Aqui1a, see https://www.dropbox.com/help/89 howto move the folder.
[00:23] <Epx998> Bashing-om: ok 2 of the 20 have this issue.
[00:23] <Epx998> Why wouldnt update-grub work?
[00:23] <Aqui1a> reisio: Yup. I can access the drive in the file explorer just fine.
[00:24] <OerHeks> Epx998, maybe boot is full ?
[00:24] <reisio> Aqui1a: where's it at?
[00:24] <reisio> can you write to it?
[00:25] <Aqui1a> reisio: Yes I can write to it
[00:25] <Epx998> OerHeks: lvm, there is no boot partition.
[00:25] <Aqui1a> reisio: What do you mean where is it?
[00:25] <reisio> Aqui1a: run 'mount'
[00:26] <Aqui1a> reisio: What, just type mount into terminal?
[00:26] <Epx998> these servers hang at grub too, despite being set to autoboot, wierd
[00:26] <Bashing-om> export_: Have you rebooted the server . And also " cat: /boot/grub/video.lst: No such file or directory " . No idea where/why this would be parsed .
[00:27] <Epx998> Bashing-om: yeah they've been rebooted
[00:28]  * Volund returns
[00:29] <Volund> I have no idea why cantunn is being a jerk to me, but yeah I've gotten puush working. made a ~/bin directory to stuff it in
[00:29] <reisio> Aqui1a: yes
[00:29] <Epx998> I see grub.cfg is sitting in /boot/grub where as the servers that updated correctly do not have this file
[00:30] <Volund> now to install PyCharm.
[00:30] <reisio> Volund: ask apt-file
[00:30] <reisio> Epx998: well deduced
[00:30] <Epx998> reisio: shrug, just trying to figure it out.
[00:31] <reisio> no that was serious
[00:31] <Epx998> ah ok
[00:31] <Epx998> lol
[00:31] <Bashing-om> export_: Standard default " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /boot/grub >> -r--r--r-- 1 root root   42974 Sep  9 15:47 grub.cfg " I canot say for sure about LVM .
[00:31] <reisio> :p
[00:31] <Chuck_Norris> Volund: /ignore him, he was insultin' me sending me pms
[00:31] <reisio> Chuck_Norris: you're the cutest :p
[00:32] <Volund> this is IMPRESSIVE.
[00:32] <OerHeks> Chuck_Norris, if you have issues, join #ubuntu-ops
[00:32] <Volund> I -almost- have reproduced my Windows desktop experience.
[00:32] <Bashing-om> Epx998:  Standard default " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /boot/grub >> -r--r--r-- 1 root root   42974 Sep  9 15:47 grub.cfg " I canot say for sure about LVM .
[00:32] <Chuck_Norris> Volund: write /ignore cantunn  in your irc client, i know reisio
[00:32] <reisio> heh
[00:32] <OerHeks> Chuck_Norris, stop that please.
[00:32] <reisio> Volund: yup
[00:33] <Epx998> that didnt fix it
[00:34] <reisio> Epx998: what didn't?
[00:34] <Epx998> removing that file
[00:34] <reisio> grub.cfg?
[00:34] <reisio> is a file you'll almost always want
[00:35] <Epx998> its not on the nodes that updated correctly
[00:36] <reisio> they have separate /boot partitions?
[00:36] <OerHeks> reisio, he said LVM
[00:37] <reisio> don't see the relevance, but he can also speak for himself I'm sure
[00:37] <Epx998> yeah lvm
[00:37] <Epx998> could that be the problem?
[00:38] <reisio> it could be involved, but so could a lot of things
[00:39] <Epx998> eh screw it - ill rekick em.  dont have time for 3 buggy nodes. :D
[00:39] <reisio> Epx998: check which files have 'menuentry' strings in /boot/grub/ (egrep -il menuentry /boot/grub/*)
[00:40] <Epx998> returned nothing
[00:40] <Volund> okay Dragoon looks nice and all but I have a bunch of videos and it's not getting the audio for all of them... maybe VLC is the way to go? or kplayer?
[00:41] <Epx998> ah its there
[00:41] <Epx998> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12444496/
[00:42] <OerHeks> Volund, install restricted-extras, for codecs and webplugins and fonts
[00:42] <OerHeks> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:42] <Volund> already have those installed.
[00:43] <alan_> hullo
[00:43] <Guest86298> HULLO
[00:44] <Guest86298> HULLLOOO
[00:44] <Guest86298> :)
[00:44] <reisio> 'lo
[00:44]  * Volund installs vlc with apt-get
[00:45] <Volund> okay the problem was wrong audio device, pft
[00:46] <Epx998> Ran the update on a different node, very different output at the console.  rekick from orbit, only way to be sure.
[00:50] <Epx998> yeah these nodes are fubar, others are not having issues.  thanks for the help tho.
[00:56] <killtet> im having a dual booting problem. when i restart my computer 80 percent of the time it gets stuck on the grub
[00:57] <killtet> anyone know a solution to this cant find much online
[00:58] <Workster> i'm not a ubuntu user but i'd be checking the smart status of the hdd. smartctl -a /dev/sda
[00:58] <Workster> and checking with -t short then -t long
[00:58] <Regg|n|gger> .//part
[00:58] <Workster> the later will take several hours
[00:58] <reisio> killtet: define stuck
[01:01] <reisio> or don't :p
[01:02] <killtet> thanks
[01:02] <killtet> :)
[01:10] <sethj> Is there a way I can figure out my BIOS version without rebooting into it?
[01:14] <Bashing-om> sethj: 'sudo dmidecode' the BIOS information has that info .
[01:16] <sethj> Bashing-om, thanks! Unfortunately a bug in how the Linux 4.0 image is compiled for Ubuntu renders dmidecode useless, so I guess I will just reboot >.>
[01:18] <Volund> odd, my pidgin has no sound...
[01:21] <Volund> there we go
[01:42] <Joey_Bellows> Anyone have any success with getting Ubuntu Touch to run on a Galaxy Tab 4?
[01:43] <bazhang> #ubuntu-touch Joey_Bellows
[01:43] <Minotaur01> Hello! I'm trying to run a gui program without a window manager or a desktop, I've got the program starting, when I start X, but I cant seem to be able to force it to start full screen... dose anyone have any ideas on how to do this?
[01:43] <thevaliantx> how can i open up port 25565?  That's the port that the minecraft server I installed is using.  I think the server is using the port, but nothing outside the computer can access the port.
[01:44] <bazhang> what gui program Minotaur01
[01:45] <Minotaur01> Its a surveillance recorder clinet
[01:45] <Minotaur01> bazhang ^^
[01:45] <bazhang> need more details Minotaur01
[01:46] <Minotaur01> digital watchdog... can send you the link to the download
[01:46] <Minotaur01> its free to download
[01:48] <Minotaur01> bazhang... Server... http://publiclibrary.dwcc.tv/NVR/DW_Spectrum/Software/Linux/64-Bit/2.3.2.9503/digitalwatchdog-mediaserver-2.3.2.9503-x64-release.zip   Clinet... http://publiclibrary.dwcc.tv/NVR/DW_Spectrum/Software/Linux/64-Bit/2.3.2.9503/digitalwatchdog-client-2.3.2.9503-x64-release.zip
[01:49] <bazhang> why no gui Minotaur01 at least a tiling wm or such
[01:50] <bastin> I am looking for tool to read erlang logs in a better way any suggestions ?
[01:51] <Minotaur01> bazhang... I just wanted to make it really basic.. no menus and extra programs
[01:51] <bazhang> Minotaur01, that makes it a lot harder
[01:51] <lotuspsychje> thevaliantx: sounds like a router port needs opening?
[01:51] <bazhang> tiling wms are very light on the resources as is
[01:52] <Minotaur01> bazhang, what would you recommand then?
[01:52] <bazhang> apt-cache search tiling Minotaur01 and choose one
[01:52] <bazhang> only you can decide which is best for you Minotaur01
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> thevaliantx: maybe check the ##networking guys
[01:54] <Minotaur01> bazhang, since i've had no experiance with them, which one do you think is best for what i'm trying to do?
[01:55] <bastin> No one to help me
[01:57] <bazhang> bastin, no one saw a question
[01:57] <bazhang> Minotaur01, try some and see
[01:58] <Minotaur01> lol... youtube it is
[02:04] <hijodedios_> hi
[02:11] <neil2> I measured (with iperf) the internal network speed between the host and a VM ... I only got 193Mb/s ... why so slow?  ... how can I make it faster?
[02:12] <MordepedroM> Hello. Any tips on how i keep my ip adress not visible on IRC or if i can chat on IRC with tor
[02:15] <bazhang> MordepedroM, ask in #freenode
[02:15] <Bashing-om> MordepedroM: Perhaps better asked in #freenode
[02:16] <MordepedroM> ok tanks a lot bazhang
[02:22] <neil2> MordepedroM, why hide your IP address?
[02:22] <nug700> How can I make a .Desktop file open an authentification UI before running the program?
[02:23] <neil2> nug700, try running it via gksu
[02:24] <tom``> quick question: in 2015 should I be using upstart or systemd?
[02:26] <nug700> I put "gksu /usr/bin/unetbootin" in for Exec. it opens up a password prompt, but the password for my account (the one I use for sudo) is invalid
[02:27] <nug700> neil2: ^
[02:27] <MordepedroM> neil2.... why not?
[02:28] <nug700> hu it worked all of a suden
[02:28] <nug700> sudden*
[02:28] <neil2> nug700, good
[02:29] <neil2> MordepedroM, going it more difficult for very little gain.
[02:33] <MordepedroM> neil2: well.. I got more stuff to learn about at the moment i am trying to get certification in java se 7 BUT.. Security and beeing anounymous on the web its not my priority right know but its something i enjoy learning. Forget the write mistakes i am Portuguese
[02:34] <MordepedroM> Its a small answer but you know that could writ long text on why to keep IP not visible
[02:34] <MordepedroM> /write
[02:35] <bastin> Guys, Is there any know tools to read Erlang logs ?
[02:35] <neil2> MordepedroM, no problem there... I like learning about it too.. but mainly to do with encryption etc.
[02:37] <MordepedroM> encryption is the next step :)  want to learn some stuff later
[02:37] <bazhang> MordepedroM, neil2 lets get on topic here please
[02:37] <MordepedroM> sory
[02:37] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[02:40] <neil2> MordepedroM, join #mynewchat
[02:42] <lehonti> Hello
[02:42] <lehonti> this is my first time on this kind of chat
[02:42] <DaVinci> hello
[02:42] <lehonti> I don't know what it's all about
[02:42] <DaVinci> is any one there
[02:42] <lehonti> Me
[02:42] <lehonti> DaVinci, me
[02:42] <DaVinci> ooo
[02:43] <Guest880> hey so where u from?
[02:43] <lehonti> Mexico
[02:43] <lehonti> and you?
[02:43] <OerHeks> lehonti, time to read the topic
[02:43] <Guest880> its just a community chat
[02:43] <OerHeks> !ot
[02:43] <somsip> Guest880: no it's not - it's support
[02:44] <Guest880> yeah man in community its mutual support
[02:44] <Guest880> ubuntu dosent support we support each other
[02:44] <somsip> Guest880: chat goes in #ubuntu-offtopic, end of discussion on that.
[02:44] <Guest880> u can tell us
[02:44] <lehonti> ok, I see now. I have to join ubuntu-offtopic
[02:46] <thevaliantx> how can i open up port 25565?  That's the port that the minecraft server I installed is using.  I think the server is using the port, but nothing outside the computer can access the port.
[02:48] <OerHeks> thevaliantx, access from local network ?
[02:49] <OerHeks> on your server, you can see if minecraftserver is really using that port: lsof -i :25565
[02:54] <Maniglen> HI, I just started an interest group on Launchpad, https://launchpad.net/xbox360 People are complaining there's no 'join' button. How do I do this in Launchpad ?
[02:55] <ablest1980> manacit, i think there is a luanchpad #
[02:56] <Maniglen> ablest1980: I don't understand the # bit , please explain.
[02:56] <ablest1980> Maniglen, sorry
[02:56] <ablest1980> channel
[02:56] <ablest1980> #launchpad
[02:56] <AmnesiaHaze> Hey all. I'm very new to Ubuntu and Linux but I'm having a bit of trouble with a small script and would love any insight available.
[02:56] <Maniglen> oh ok.
[02:56] <AmnesiaHaze> Details here: http://pastebin.com/KMXKjuFC
[02:57] <Maniglen> ablest1980: What is the exact channel name, please ?
[02:58] <ablest1980> launchpad
[02:58] <Maniglen> opening ...
[02:58] <Maniglen> got it. , cheers.
[02:58] <ablest1980> XD GJ
[02:58] <Maniglen> GJ ?
[02:59] <ablest1980> good job
[02:59] <Maniglen> cool, see ya.
[02:59] <ablest1980> k
[03:00] <AmnesiaHaze> Small meaning two lines
[03:01] <OerHeks> AmnesiaHaze, you need sufficient rights to go to /opt, or use sudo to run that script (and a script with 777 is a bad idea)
[03:01] <AmnesiaHaze> it's just a test, I didn't want permissions to be an issue
[03:02] <AmnesiaHaze> and it doesn't work running sudo either
[03:02] <AmnesiaHaze> does the same thing
[03:02] <AmnesiaHaze> which is nothing, doesn't change the dir
[03:03] <AmnesiaHaze> I have no doubt it's me doing something wrong, I just don't know what it is.
[03:04] <OerHeks> AmnesiaHaze, oke, read this wiki, and look in the 1st example what you did wrong ( hint: it is a typo) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting#Scripting
[03:05] <AmnesiaHaze> telling me the typo would have been way shorter but ok man
[03:05] <nug700> woops I formated my data drive by accident
[03:05] <OerHeks> you want to learn .. #! /bin/bash > #!/bin/bash
[03:05] <AmnesiaHaze> I just learned
[03:05] <AmnesiaHaze> thank you
[03:07] <AmnesiaHaze> well no, I didn't learn because that didn't change the operation, which is nothing
[03:13] <AmnesiaHaze> I just put in an echo after the cd /opt and it prints when I run the script but the directory still doesn't change
[03:15] <AmnesiaHaze> found it
[03:15] <AmnesiaHaze> http://askubuntu.com/questions/481715/why-doesnt-cd-work-in-a-shell-script
[03:15] <AmnesiaHaze> cd doesn't work in shell script
[03:17] <soreau> I installed a chroot using schroot and debbootstrap but it didn't install sudo or apt, only dpkg. I can use dpkg to install apt but I have to follow the dependency trail manually. Sure;y there is a better waY?
[03:17] <AmnesiaHaze> Basically it says "The scope of cd command is only for child process not parent" just the script goes there and when the script is done it comes back to where you ran it from
[03:39] <Workster> soreau, i would use docker for that. and i do.
[03:39] <bjrohan> I bought a new HP Notebook that came with a Realtek 8723be. WIN 10 it works fine. In Ubuntu 15.04 I can only see my home network (should see about 10 others), I can connect as long as I am within 10 feet of the router, and there is never any data transfer
[03:40] <bjrohan> Can anyone help? I tried adding a new .bin, as well as echo "options rtl8723be fwlps=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf
[03:40] <bjrohan> No changes to the performance
[03:41] <soreau> Workster: How do you use it to do this?
[03:49] <user768> 2345uferq
[03:49] <user768> sorry
[03:54] <Workster> https://docs.docker.com/userguide/
[03:54] <Workster> basicly docker clone foo/bar
[03:54] <Workster> docker start foo/bar
[03:55] <Workster> then you are in.
[03:55] <Workster> look up on the registry for an image
[04:20] <shooter2kill> Hey everyone i use a open internet connection because i have freinds and family come over and its just easier for everyone the wifi barley works outside so there is no real chance of anyone stealing it but just to make sure is there a progam that can tell me who is using my connection
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> shooter2kill: etherape or wireshark might be able to help you
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> shooter2kill: anaylze whats going on your network, try also the ##networking channel
[04:28] <shooter2kill> ok ill look at both of those programs thanks very much lotus
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> shooter2kill: they have more experience in this
[04:29] <shooter2kill> networking channnel support ubuntu
[04:29] <shooter2kill> ??
[04:31] <shooter2kill> thanks for the help lotus
[04:34] <jzp113> hi guy ? how to solve ubuntu attempt to kill init?
[04:38] <loa> jzp113, wut?
[04:38] <loa> why ubuntu want kill init?
[04:40] <jzp113> loa I don't know
[04:41] <jzp113> loa I don't know ,when I start the compute it's show me   panic  ~~~~~~~~attempt to kill init
[04:44] <loa> jzp113, and it is not booting?
[04:44] <jzp113> yes loa
[04:45] <temptemp> not booting....
[04:45] <jzp113> so I resume the system
[04:47] <temptemp> reset bios
[04:47] <jzp113> temptemp, not bios problem
[04:47] <temptemp> oh
[04:52] <cereal> every so often my touchpad freaks out and in _some_ applications is always in select / drag drop mode (such as gedit and system ui's such as open a file) but not other things like terminal and my browser, has anyone seen this? I have no idea why its happening :-(
[04:54] <cassio3> apple says it is apache's job to fix apache
[04:54] <cassio3> is that reasonable?
[04:54] <Volund> okay now to figure out how to samba it up
[04:58] <Volund> okay so I have Samba installed. the question now is ensuring that the directories I want to share are permanently mounted for it.
[05:01] <somsip> cassio3: in a ubuntu support channel, it's irrelevant
[05:01] <cassio3> somsip
[05:01] <cassio3> funny, that's what they said
[05:01] <cassio3> "apache is third-party software"
[05:02] <cassio3> we all must defend open source values
[05:02] <cassio3> that said, I'm sorry
[05:02] <somsip> cassio3: take it elsewhere, thanks
[05:02] <bobdobbs> is there a gui for connecting to and acquiring images from a wifi printer/scanner?
[05:02] <cassio3> where would you recommend?
[05:02] <cassio3> bobdobbs
[05:02] <cassio3> yes
[05:02] <somsip> !alis | cassio3
[05:02] <cassio3> it is called TWAIN
[05:03] <cassio3> TWAIN works on mac, windows
[05:03] <cassio3> and linux/unix
[05:04] <cassio3> go to help.ubuntu.com
[05:04] <cassio3> I would honestly recommend plugging the scanner in via usb
[05:04] <cassio3> or via ethernet to your router
[05:04] <cassio3> do not attempt to use wifi
[05:04] <cassio3> at least not initially
[05:04] <bobdobbs> yeah, I think you might be right
[05:04] <cassio3> does it work via USB?
[05:05] <cassio3> what specific distro do you have?
[05:05] <bobdobbs> I've managed to print and get images from the printer/scanner before using wifi, but that was a few weeks ago. And now I don't remember how I did it. And back then it took me 6 hours.
[05:05] <bobdobbs> I'm using ubuntu 12.04
[05:06] <bobdobbs> the device is a brother MFC-J4700W
[05:06] <cassio3>  I suspect
[05:06] <cassio3> that if you did it before
[05:06] <cassio3> doing it again is instaneous
[05:07] <cassio3> configurations don't just vanish
[05:07] <cassio3> do you have multiple window managers installed?
[05:07] <cassio3> that has tripped me up in the past
[05:07] <bobdobbs> I think I've got KDE libs instal
[05:07] <bobdobbs> *installed.
[05:07] <bobdobbs> but I only use gnome
[05:08] <bobdobbs> I also don't think that I've got a spare USB cable. so I might be screwed
[05:08] <cassio3> relax.
[05:08] <cassio3> print out the printers configuration page
[05:08] <cassio3> you can do that from the control panels
[05:08] <cassio3> on the printer
[05:09] <cassio3> brother's are excellent printers
[05:09] <cassio3> do you think best at night
[05:09] <cassio3> or in the morning
[05:09] <cassio3> ?
[05:09] <bobdobbs> I don't have any paper :(
[05:09] <cassio3> oh, ...
[05:09] <cassio3> wait
[05:09] <bobdobbs> I think best at night. (I think)
[05:09] <bobdobbs> I'm gonna hunt around my flat for a cable
[05:09] <cassio3> http://www.hamrick.com/
[05:10] <cassio3> this happens to be the best scanning software
[05:10] <cassio3> on any platform
[05:10] <cassio3> are you there?
[05:10] <cassio3> you can try it
[05:10] <cassio3> I would also advise
[05:10] <cassio3> seeing if the device is detected if you can do that
[05:11] <bobdobbs> how would I do that?
[05:11] <cassio3> I knew to ask the question
[05:11] <bobdobbs> I initially tried by looking at the CUPS web UI
[05:11] <cassio3> can it see it there?
[05:11] <cassio3> or at least your previous attempt?
[05:11] <bobdobbs> but it doesn't give me a clear indication of whether or not it can see the device presently
[05:11] <cassio3> what happens if you try to print to it
[05:12] <cassio3> never mind that you don't have paper
[05:12] <cassio3> can it see it in the print dialog
[05:12] <cassio3> ?
[05:12] <bobdobbs> the UI doesn't show printers. It just shows jobs
[05:13] <cassio3> no, you mistake my meaning
[05:13] <bobdobbs> well, it displays the device model number under 'queues'
[05:13] <cassio3> try to print a document
[05:13] <bobdobbs> ok...
[05:13] <cassio3> like a "hello world"
[05:14] <cassio3> here's a brave question:
[05:14] <cassio3> do you have other computers on your network?
[05:15] <cassio3> can they see e/o and the printer?
[05:15] <bobdobbs> I've "kind of" got other computers on the network
[05:15] <bobdobbs> Like, I've got a windows computer
[05:16] <bobdobbs> I honestly wouldn't know how to connect a windows machine to a network printer. I don't know windows
[05:16] <cassio3> no, that's not really what I'm asking
[05:16] <cassio3> can your windows computer see your linux one?
[05:16] <cassio3> http://askubuntu.com/questions/513713/how-to-configure-a-network-printer-in-ubuntu-14-04
[05:16] <cassio3> is browsability working?
[05:17] <cassio3> in any case, how did your test go?
[05:17] <bobdobbs> sometimes it can, sometimes it can't
[05:17] <cassio3> ah. okay.
[05:17] <cassio3> does your printer have an IP address
[05:17] <bobdobbs> I haven't managed to push a job yet. I opened a document in my browser, right-clicked and selected the 'print' option...
[05:17] <cassio3> can you ping to it?
[05:18] <cassio3> ok, what happened when you selected print
[05:18] <cassio3> ...
[05:18] <bobdobbs> the chrome 'print preview' came up, and displayed "print preview failed"
[05:18] <cassio3> can you download vuescan and install it
[05:18] <bobdobbs> and now I can't close that screen without closeing the browser tabe
[05:18] <bobdobbs> *tab
[05:18] <cassio3> that should get you up and running for tonight
[05:18] <bobdobbs> I don't know if the device has an ip address.
[05:18] <cassio3> you do seem to have something wrong with your system
[05:18] <cassio3> can you get to terminal
[05:19] <cassio3> and run a top
[05:19] <cassio3> "top"
[05:19] <bobdobbs> yes. I'm pretty familiar with the terminal
[05:19] <cassio3> ok :-)
[05:19] <cassio3> please do that
[05:19] <bobdobbs> ok. what am I looking for in top
[05:19] <cassio3> just tell me what is sucking your cpu
[05:19] <cassio3> and causing the gui to hang
[05:20] <bobdobbs> nothing out of the ordinary: emacs, chrome, firefox, chromium all at the top
[05:20] <bobdobbs> after that, metacity, vlc, 'plugin-container', which I think is another browser-initiated process
[05:21] <cassio3> are you printing from the browser?
[05:21] <cassio3> print from emacs
[05:21] <bobdobbs> might as well kill firefox. I don't need that
[05:21] <cassio3> we want to make this really really simple
[05:22] <bobdobbs> I killed that browser tab. I'll try from emacs. I'll just have to google to figure that bit out...
[05:22] <la> hello
[05:22] <bobdobbs> huh. I'd have to configure my emacs init file and load a new lisp library if I want to print from emacs.
[05:23] <bobdobbs> that seems like too much work for a simple print test
[05:25] <cassio3> bobdobbs
[05:25] <cassio3> fair enough
[05:25] <cassio3> what about from abiword?
[05:25] <cassio3> or...
[05:25] <cassio3> anything else?
[05:25] <bobdobbs> oh yeah. I think I've got office products on board
[05:25] <cassio3> your browser adds a layer of complication
[05:25] <cassio3> the best thing honestly is a pdf
[05:26] <bobdobbs> cool. I've got libreoffice
[05:26] <bobdobbs> I'll try printing a pdf from that
[05:26] <bobdobbs> oh crap
[05:27] <bobdobbs> it can't open the pdf's I've throwing at it
[05:27] <cassio3> ok.
[05:27] <cassio3> one sec
[05:27] <bobdobbs> I think that libreoffice might be displaying the postscript
[05:27] <bobdobbs> geez, linux
[05:28] <cassio3> just open a new file
[05:28] <cassio3> type hello world
[05:28] <bobdobbs> yeah, I've tried three pdf's, from different sources. all of them show garbage
[05:28] <cassio3> and say print
[05:28] <cassio3> no doubt
[05:29] <bobdobbs> you mean, in a new document?
[05:29] <cassio3> because libreoffice is not a pdf reader
[05:29] <cassio3> yeah, that's fine
[05:29] <bobdobbs> ah, ok
[05:29] <bobdobbs> ok
[05:29] <bispo> alguém fala português do Brasil?
[05:29] <bobdobbs> the printer responded!
[05:30] <bobdobbs> It made some bleepy noises and now it demands ink
[05:30] <bobdobbs> (despite the fact that I just filled it)
[05:30] <bobdobbs> at least I know I'm talking to it now
[05:30] <cassio3> that was a lot of work for nothing :-)
[05:31] <bobdobbs> hehe
[05:32] <bobdobbs> well, I wasn't going to print from it anyway.
[05:32] <bobdobbs> Honestly, I know better then trying to print from linux
[05:32] <bobdobbs> and I say that as someone whose main platform for over a decade has been linux
[05:33] <cassio3> are you using third-party ink?
[05:33] <bobdobbs> no
[05:33] <cassio3> you are also out of paper
[05:33] <cassio3> so you can't really expect it to work
[05:33] <bobdobbs> yes
[05:34] <cassio3> are you current on your software updates
[05:34] <cassio3> I'm seriou
[05:34] <bobdobbs> ok, I've discovered that I've got a program called 'simple scan'
[05:34] <cassio3> oh good
[05:34] <bobdobbs> cassio3: I know that my ubuntu is updated
[05:34] <bobdobbs> If I try and acquire from SS, I get the message 'no scanners found'
[05:35] <cassio3> wait
[05:35] <cassio3> on most scanners you have to put it in scanning mode
[05:35] <cassio3> put paper in there too
[05:35] <Volund> fstab success!
[05:35] <Volund> I have stabbed the f
[05:35] <cassio3> on the canon (which is not what you have
[05:35] <Volund> and my drives are mounted.
[05:35] <Volund> SAMBA
[05:36] <cassio3> you would use a remote scan option
[05:36] <cassio3> go to the brother website
[05:36] <cassio3> and read up
[05:36] <bobdobbs> ok. I'll do that
[05:38] <cassio3> http://askubuntu.com/questions/389636/invalid-argument-brother-scanner-not-working-after-upgrade-brscan2-driver
[05:38] <cassio3> bobdobbs
[05:38] <cassio3> in the center of the page
[05:38] <bobdobbs> checking it...
[05:38] <cassio3> you will find code to identify scanners
[05:39] <cassio3> and to retrieve images
[05:39] <Volund> no GUI for changing my IP address. X_X
[05:39] <Volund> changing /etc/network/interfaces is my best option on KDE huh?
[05:40] <bobdobbs> cassio3: I was hoping that there was a gui for setting up scanning. Not because I'm afraid of the cli... but because of the way memory works.
[05:41] <bobdobbs> cassio3: like, if I'm going to be using the same commands repeatedly over time in the terminal, I'll remember them.
[05:41] <Volund> aha
[05:41] <Volund> found it~
[05:41] <bobdobbs> but with something like setting up a peripheral, I just want to set the thing up and forget about it.
[05:42] <bobdobbs> Then, if I need to reconfigure the peripheral, I'd want the interface to be easily mentally parseable. The best thing for that is a gui.
[05:42] <Volund> hrm, nope, still nothing like that... arrrargh
[05:51] <Volund> how to static IP, hrmngh.
[05:52] <somsip> Volund: like you said, /etc/network/interfaces will work but not sure if you have a GUI option
[05:59] <ubuntu566> Hi, are the noobslab ppa's relatively safe?
[05:59] <somsip> !ppa | ubuntu566
[06:05] <absklb>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER absklb mnanwekatxbz
[06:05] <somsip> absklb: and...change it quickly
[06:05] <mondayrain> hahahahahah
[06:05] <cfhowlett> absklb, thanks for the password!
[06:05] <absklb> thats not my password
[06:05] <absklb> thats verifyy  string
[06:06] <somsip> absklb: and....do it right next time :)
[06:06] <cfhowlett> oh well, not like THAT is important or anything ... :)
[06:06] <absklb> yeh but do i now need to get new verify passphrase?
[06:06] <somsip> absklb: maybe you're just too late and someone else has verified it already.
[06:06] <absklb> no i got msg saying you verified
[06:07] <somsip> anyway...OT
[06:11] <ubuntu566> !addppa
[06:13] <penos> !sysyemd
[06:14] <cfhowlett> !systemd | penos
[06:14] <penos> !systemd
[06:17] <absklb> can anyone read me?
[06:18] <Volund> yes
[06:18] <absklb> ok
[06:18] <Volund> okay that's odd. my linux account can't access the samba share...
[06:18] <Volund> it even gets rejected on a local connection
[06:22] <student_1b> siema
[06:23] <student_1b> hello
[06:23] <student_1b> gdzie
[06:23] <student_1b> ludzie
[06:23] <student_1b> alo
[06:23] <student_1b> s
[06:23] <student_1b> p
[06:23] <student_1b> a
[06:23] <student_1b> m
[06:30] <stangeland> Is there a possibility to save a screendump as a high resolution png image?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> stangeland, no higher than the native resolution
[06:31] <stangeland> cfhowlett, ok, when i do screenshot is that automatically saved in same resolution same dpi etc as the screen itself?
[06:32] <cfhowlett> stangeland, it is.
[06:33] <stangeland> cfhowlett, so if i attach a super screen and super graphic card and do screendump i get super png basically?
[06:33] <cfhowlett> stangeland, unless you change the screendump defaults, yes.
[06:33] <shrilaxmi> cfhowlett: i need line spacing in hexcha
[06:33] <shrilaxmi> cfhowlett: i need line spacing in hexchat
[06:33] <stangeland> cfhowlett, thanks man you made my day
[06:34] <shrilaxmi> cfhowlett: is there any way to do it
[06:34] <cfhowlett> stangeland, happy2help!
[06:34] <cfhowlett> shrilaxmi, not that I know of.
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> shrilaxmi: why do you need this?
[06:43] <shrilaxmi> lotuspsychje:it's too confusing without line spacing
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> shrilaxmi: change your fonts bigger
[06:44] <cfhowlett> shrilaxmi, and enable colors
[06:44] <shrilaxmi> any recommended font?
[06:44] <cfhowlett> shrilaxmi, depends on your eye and preferences.  personally, I prefer a clean, non-serif font >>> ubuntu font
[06:46] <shrilaxmi> ok it's better now
[06:48] <nug700> trying to fix grub after installing windows. Is there any tool I can boot off with just the grub fixer?
[06:48] <nug700> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub says I need to burn the while ubuntu installer
[06:48] <nug700> to use it
[06:54] <absklb> nug700, there is a special grub disk
[06:56] <nug700> eh to late now already burning it
[07:17] <nug700> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub "just boot off a liveCD and run a simple command to repair grub" it says
[07:18] <nug700> DOESN:T WORK
[07:18] <nug700> kernal panics
[07:19] <nug700> really miss the 10 days when you could isntall windows and linux side by side and it would just work.
[07:20] <nug700> Somebody really f*cked up.
[07:20] <cfhowlett> you DID read the section that says "Install ubuntu AFTER you install windows!"???
[07:20] <nug700> (ubuntu 10 days)
[07:20] <nug700> Ubuntu was already isntalled
[07:20] <nug700> weeks ago.
[07:21] <nug700> So in other words if you have ubuntu already and want to put windows in, you have to either reinstall ubuntu or just not install windows?
[07:21] <cfhowlett> right.  and installing ubuntu broke the bootloader - as expected.  if grub repair fails, reinstall ubuntu
[07:22] <cfhowlett> OR install virtualbox and put the other OS in there
[07:22] <leevision> got a problem
[07:22] <nug700> Virtualbox is crap. You get no performance out of it
[07:22] <cfhowlett> !ask | leevision
[07:23] <nug700> The reason I want windows is so I can actually play the games I own. You can't play games in a VM
[07:23] <nug700> Ther any way to fix ubuntu?
[07:23] <cfhowlett> reinstall
[07:23] <nug700> I spent to much time getting it to work right.
[07:23] <hateball> nug700: Depending on your hardware it is very much possible to get native performance in a VM, but that's a different topic
[07:24] <leevision> i was playing with anonymous and now I lost my wifi connection, I cannot even see any access point. I am currently on a wired connection. Any help would be greatly appreciated thx
[07:24] <nug700> There's also the problem of not getting graphics drivers to install
[07:24] <nug700> which you need to play games
[07:24] <leevision> using backbox 4
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !backbox | Lee1`
[07:25] <cfhowlett> leevision, see ^^^
[07:25] <DJ_HaMsTa> any time i try to install anything i get  wkhtmltox : Depends: libjpeg-turbo8 but it is not installed
[07:25] <DJ_HaMsTa>  
[07:25] <DJ_HaMsTa> http://imgur.com/TdjlmSY
[07:25] <DJ_HaMsTa> i have tried to apt-get -f install to all the extra packages but i get the same runaround
[07:25] <cfhowlett> !root | DJ_HaMsTa
[07:25] <nug700> cfhowlett: read the the title of the page "RECOVER ubuntu AFTER isntalling windows". Meaning ubuntu is installed, then windows is installed which breaks grub, and instructs how to fix it
[07:26] <DJ_HaMsTa> i use sudo
[07:26] <DJ_HaMsTa> sorry
[07:26] <cfhowlett> nug700, I have read it.  your options haven't changed.  time to  choose a fix.
[07:26] <Exagone313> Hi, I have a problem, I extracted a directory that starts by the char $, and I can't cd or rm it. What can I do?
[07:26] <nug700> isn't there a bootable program just with the grub installer?
[07:26] <cfhowlett> DJ_HaMsTa, sudo?  not in that screenshot ... but apt-get -f install should fix
[07:27] <Exagone313> dl@elouworld:~$ cd et/etmail/\$PLUGINSDIR
[07:27] <Exagone313> -bash: cd: et/etmail/$PLUGINSDIR: No such file or directory
[07:27] <hateball> Exagone313: use -- to escape
[07:27] <nug700> Because I cannot remember all the things I did to make ubuntu work the way I had it.
[07:27] <DJ_HaMsTa> sorryhttp://imgur.com/jJGeJaO i tried with -f same error
[07:27] <Exagone313> -- ?
[07:27] <DJ_HaMsTa> http://imgur.com/jJGeJaO i tried with -f same error
[07:28] <DJ_HaMsTa> cfhowlett, http://imgur.com/jJGeJaO i tried with -f same error
[07:28] <Exagone313> hateball: can you give an example?
[07:28] <hateball> Exagone313: oh it's a dir. you can use \ to escape then
[07:28] <hateball> Exagone313: cd \$thing
[07:28] <Exagone313> it doe snot work
[07:29] <Exagone313> ok sorry
[07:29] <Exagone313> typo
[07:29] <Exagone313> thanks for helping
[07:29] <Nindustries> Hi, is there a name for the feature when I press ALT, I can search through the menu commands?
[07:30] <hplc> anyone knows if theres any premade guide to howto make a http streaming movieserver out of ubuntu-server?
[07:30] <lowtech486> hey eddymax
[07:30] <cfhowlett> !server | hplc
[07:36] <KervyN> Hi maybe someone could help me to find a good piece of software. I am looking for a caching proxy for apt and yum. It should verify signatures and work with ssl. AND it should only cache the packages, not the indexes :-) Any idea?
[07:37] <cfhowlett> KervyN, might want to ask #ubuntu-server, #fedora and/or ##linux
[07:37] <KervyN> cfhowlett: Thanks for the hint with #ubunt-server and #fedora
[07:38] <cfhowlett> happy2help! KervyN
[07:45] <pylua> lspci does not print ethnet ,the installation sayes it cannot detect network card
[07:45] <pylua> hoe to fix
[07:45] <pylua> how
[07:47] <hateball> pylua: first, is your network card going over pci and not usb? check with lsusb
[07:47] <hateball> pylua: failing that, can you see the device in bios?
[07:53] <ren0v0> What would happen if i encrypt a drive thats connected via SATA but doesn't have an OS on it or anything, when booting into ubuntu would it try and unlock it?
[07:54] <cfhowlett> encrypted = can't be unlocked.
[07:54] <cfhowlett> without permission
[07:55] <ren0v0> cfhowlett, would ubuntu ask to unlocked it during boot or login of user etc i guess is what i'm asking
[07:55] <ren0v0> like, when you do the same with a USB drive, when its plugged in ubuntu asks to unlock it
[07:55] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, not during boot or user login.  AFTER login should be possible to opne
[07:55] <linocisco> hi all, when i typed kvm-ok, it told to install kvm-ok. but can't be installed
[07:56] <linocisco> what to add in repository?
[07:56] <ren0v0> cfhowlett, ok thanks
[07:56] <DJ_HaMsTa> where can i find a list of apps that reside in gdebi ?
[07:56] <linocisco> E: Unable to locate package kvm-ok
[07:57] <trijntje> My printer is stupid and prints all documents reversed, is there a setting in ubuntu to send pages to the printer in the reverse order?
[07:57] <vinay_> hello
[07:57] <kishan> kk
[07:57] <linocisco> E: Unable to locate package kvm-ok
[07:57] <DJ_HaMsTa> gdebi error, file not found: wkhtmltox-0.12.2.1_linux-trusty-amd64.deb
[07:58] <nudedude> Nindustries: I think it's called HUD
[07:58] <Nindustries> aha
[07:58] <Nindustries> thanks nudedude
[07:59] <nudedude> You're welcome
[07:59] <Nindustries> Is there something like that in other shells?
[07:59] <vinay_> www.panduboys.com
[07:59] <vinay_> find long tail pro crack
[07:59] <Volund> so I'm wondering, anyone have a good idea of a tool I can use to quickly find out what's taking up all my disk space? Something akin to WinDirStat would be nice
[07:59] <trijntje> Volund: baobab
[07:59] <trijntje> its installed by default
[08:00] <Volund> will that rin in KDE? it says gnome
[08:00] <Volund> run*
[08:00] <Volund> *is using Kubuntu*
[08:00] <Nindustries> nvm, there are things like qmenu_hud
[08:00] <cfhowlett> vinay_, no spam in this channel.  thank you.
[08:00] <trijntje> it will run, but it might pull in a lot of dependencies when you install it
[08:00] <nudedude> Nindustries: that's probably unity exclusive
[08:00] <Nindustries> aww
[08:01] <Nindustries> I would like to switch away from unity, but the hud is a killer feature
[08:01] <Fod_> hi guys, im securing my server with SSH atm, im trying to create my authorised key
[08:01] <Fod_> i've used putty keygen
[08:01] <vcoinminer> hi guys, I am having really wired problem. I am performing request from A to B(has problem) to C, while A is simply client, C is backend, B is loadbalancer, B hanging (http request) around for every 10 reqs, it need wait a while, otherwise it throw connection_timeout.  I think it's from linux itself, because I changed nginx and haproxy both, and still.   If
[08:01] <vcoinminer> I remove B, simply connect from A to C, everything goes fine..
[08:01] <Fod_> got the SSH public key. now where/how do i save it on the server? do i use nano?
[08:01] <cfhowlett> !server | Fod_
[08:01] <Volund> k4dirstat, bingo
[08:02] <nudedude> Nindustries: yep unity is indeed great
[08:02] <MoL0ToV> hi to all! someone know how to insert a ascii char in libreoffice (ALT+123 for example) without using table of chars?
[08:02] <Nindustries> Fod_, are you working from ubuntu? save your private key as .ssh/id_rsa and your public key as .ssh/id_rsa.pub. Then issue a ssh-copy-id
[08:03] <hateball> trijntje: I think there are cups options for reverse order... not quite sure how you set them tho. With the KDE print dialog you can just choose "reverse order"
[08:03] <Nindustries> ssh-copy-id your_server_user@your_server
[08:03] <Nindustries> that will append your public key in .ssh/authorized_keys on your server
[08:03] <Fod_> i'm using 14.04LTS?
[08:03] <Fod_> thank you
[08:03] <mateusz_> elo
[08:03] <Fod_> let me try that
[08:03] <trijntje> MoL0ToV: ctrl 0123
[08:03] <Nindustries> it's the easiest way
[08:04] <trijntje> MoL0ToV: you could use ctrl + shift + u and type in the unicode
[08:04] <trijntje> hateball: found it, properties -> job options -> output order in gnome/unity
[08:04] <MoL0ToV> unicode is so long... i cannot insert a shorter key combination?
[08:05] <becket> hi
[08:06] <becket> I forgot my password , how to restore ?
[08:06] <hateball> trijntje: :)
[08:06] <cfhowlett> !password | becket
[08:06] <linocisco> E: Unable to locate package kvm-ok
[08:08] <nudedude> linocisco: did you do apt-get update?
[08:09] <linocisco> nudedude, i did 3 days ago
[08:09] <Nindustries> I so hope the next Ubuntu will look like this... https://www.behance.net/gallery/28804097/Ubuntu-1604-Stupendously-Hot-Charmander-concept
[08:10] <linocisco> nudedude, it is fixed now
[08:10] <linocisco> nudedude, i install cpu-checker
[08:11] <nudedude> linocisco: try searching for the package on software center
[08:11] <linocisco> nudedude, it is done now
[08:12] <DavidFromBE> Nindustries: name is openGirl, has a Internet Explorer t-shirt
[08:12] <nudedude> linocisco: ok
[08:13] <Nindustries> DavidFromBE I'm sure she
[08:13] <Nindustries> DavidFromBE I'm sure she's open to lots of things *
[08:13] <DavidFromBE> :)
[08:14] <Nindustries> But seriously, that mockup looks fucking good
[08:19] <vcoinminer> ok. that might be my syctl.conf error. once I remove those conf, everything goes fine.
[08:21] <marthelous> hey anyone know the best ide for ubuntu mate
[08:21] <vcoinminer> sublime?
[08:21] <marthelous> not in ubuntu mate
[08:22] <nudedude> marthelous: what language?
[08:22] <marthelous> c C# C++ java
[08:22] <MonkeyDust> !ide
[08:23] <nudedude> Emacs is very good
[08:24] <Nindustries> Anyone using Douane firewall here? It looks good
[08:24] <brollypop> for java IntelijJ IDEA
[08:25] <Volund> hrm, my task bar appears to have frozen...
[08:29] <Volund> whew, regained control
[08:30] <linocisco> how to control cursor which goes randomly while typing
[08:30] <linocisco> ?
[08:30] <linocisco> it is nothing to do with touch pad
[08:33] <pylua> hateball:there is no nic found in lsusb , how do I　check　that　from　bios？
[08:34] <deitarion> How do I reduce the number of older kernels that 14.04 will keep installed? (Currently it looks like it's set to some ridiculous number like 20)
[08:35] <jpds> deitarion: Done a "sudo apt-get autoremove" lately?
[08:36] <EriC^^> deitarion: it should keep 2 installed by default, try ^^
[08:36] <deitarion> Just yesterday as part of checking whether my "freeze every 24-26 hours" problem was introduced by installing LIRC.
[08:36] <EriC^^> type dpkg -l | grep linux-image and paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[08:38] <deitarion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12447053/
[08:38] <Volund> I have way too much data to sort out, argh
[08:38] <MonkeyDust> deitarion  you can use synaptic to delete old kernels ... i myself use ubuntu-tweak's janitor, but that's 3rd party and not in the repos
[08:39] <Volund> it's going to take me days to have this fully sorted
[08:39] <EriC^^> deitarion: you have 2 kernels installed, the 3.13-24 and the 3.13-63 , the rest are just the config files
[08:39] <deitarion> MonkeyDust: I'm looking for something automatic and event-driven. (I've already got enough stuff running in the background to monkey-patch shortcomings in various things.)
[08:39] <jpds> deitarion: Don't have a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels ?
[08:39] <EriC^^> deitarion: rc means configuration, ii means it's installed
[08:40] <hateball> pylua: go into your BIOS and see if you can enable/disable your NIC etc, if it is picked up at all
[08:40] <hateball> pylua: what version of ubuntu are you using, and what type of NIC?
[08:40] <EriC^^> deitarion: type sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{32..62}-generic
[08:41] <pylua> 　hateball：version　is　１４.０４　
[08:41] <deitarion> EriC^^: Then why are they all showing up in my GRUB listing even after the daily freezes reminded me that I needed to install GRUB into the MBR on every bootable device because plugging in a USB 3 external hard drive scrambles my BIOS boot order?
[08:41] <EriC^^> deitarion: it'll remove the configuration files, in the future maybe if you use --purge with autoremove it will remove the config files too, i'm not sure about that
[08:41] <sune> hi. just installede ubuntu on VM Virtual box. can someone guide me to a good start guide. My main purpose is to build firmware for arducopter with github. thx
[08:41] <EriC^^> deitarion: type ls -l /boot do you see them there?
[08:42] <MonkeyDust> !manual | sune start here
[08:42] <sune> thx m8
[08:42] <pylua> hateball:no found nic option in bios
[08:42] <deitarion> EriC^^: Yep. Massive flood of abi-* config-* initrd.img-* System.map-* and vmlinuz-* files.
[08:42] <linocisco> how to control cursor which goes randomly while typing
[08:42] <linocisco> it is nothing to do with touch pad
[08:42] <EriC^^> deitarion: that's odd something must have went wrong while trying to remove them
[08:43] <EriC^^> deitarion: try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic
[08:43] <pylua> hateball:dell laptap
[08:43] <EriC^^> then see if it's removed from ls -l /boot
[08:44] <EriC^^> deitarion: do you have a separate /boot partition? maybe it was mounted ro at the time?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> deitarion, http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[08:45] <deitarion> EriC^^: Nope. No separate /boot since it wouldn't be helpful. Also, I just realized something noteworthy.
[08:45] <deitarion> The rc kernels dpkg lists aren't the ones in /boot. /boot is cluttered up by dozens of 3.5.0 and 3.2.0 kernels.
[08:46] <EriC^^> deitarion: interesting..
[08:46] <EriC^^> i guess you could either manually remove them, or install them through apt and them purge
[08:47] <EriC^^> *then
[08:47] <MonkeyDust> 3.2 is from 12.04
[08:47] <deitarion> In other words, I'm probably suffering from an old, now-fixed "removing kernel package doesn't remove kernel from /boot" bug.
[08:47] <Platypo> Hello! I need help configuring sound devices with pulseaudio / alsa.
[08:48] <EriC^^> deitarion: i think you're going to have to delete them manually, and then run sudo update-grub
[08:48] <kivilahtio> Hi there! A n00b question: I have been doing some IO-intensive computation on my lxc-container. And the continer just froze. I suspect there is a some kind of an filesystem lock somewhere. Now if I run "lsof" or "lsof -b -S 2" from my computer, lsof freezes. Any sugestions on how to start looking for the system lock for whatever is blocking lsof from working?
[08:48] <deitarion> EriC^^: Just finished doing that. Thanks for being my water cooler monkey. :P
[08:48] <bazhang> Platypo, pavucontrol padevchooser and paprefs are useful for that
[08:48] <Klas5> Hi, I am runing some program on a bunch of files with a bash script, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12447087/, and then grep a line (my output) and puts it in a txt file
[08:49] <Klas5> I would like to do that for two lines
[08:49] <EriC^^> deitarion: np
[08:49] <bazhang> #bash Klas5
[08:49] <Klas5> with different txt files
[08:49] <Platypo> thx
[08:49] <Klas5> ah ok
[08:49] <Fod_> whats the command to download a file from the net with ssh?
[08:49] <Hiro`> Hey everyone, has anyone had any experience with Iiyama 24" monitors? I'm running one as a second screen with my Dell laptop (with Intel Core i7 cpu and Ubuntu 15.04) via the HDMI port. It has a notcieable effect on performace. For instance, editing text files becomes extremely difficult, as the point does not respond immediately to key presses.
[08:49] <Fod_> would it be like copy or something :S
[08:49] <bazhang> more than one available Fod_
[08:49] <deitarion> EriC^^: Now I just need to find something SystemD-like that runs inside a user session so I can hack around the unreliability of KDE's autostart and phase out the ton of "until foo; do false; done" wrappers I use for things like Conky.
[08:50] <Fod_> basically, i've got a zip file hosted on 1 server, i want to download it to the toher server and unzip
[08:50] <Fod_> *to the other server
[08:50] <deitarion> Fod_: scp?
[08:50] <Fod_> okay
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> Fod_  rsync goes over 22
[08:51] <Fod_> sorry, im a linux noob
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> over port 22*
[08:51] <Fod_> its only a html website, not too bothered about if its secure :)
[08:52] <Fod_> with scp, looks like i need to login
[08:52] <deitarion> Fod_: Anything over an SSH transport will require login.
[08:52] <hateball> Fod_: Is the thing you're looking to download publically available? Use wget or curl
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> Fod_  i guess you want wget
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> hateball  was fatster
[08:52] <hateball> I am always fatter
[08:53] <cfhowlett> time to do crossift
[08:53] <cfhowlett> :)
[08:53] <MonkeyDust> faster*
[08:53] <cfhowlett> crossfit*
[08:54] <mondayrain> Cross-sift sounds way more fun than crossfit
[08:54] <Hiro`> Maybe there is some config that needs to happen to get Ubuntu 15.04, the vidia drivers and the hdmi output workign together properly?
[08:55] <hateball> Hiro`: Are you using proprietary driver or noeuvaeu ?
[08:55] <hateball> nouveau*
[08:55] <Hiro`> Well, initially I was using the recommended prop drivers.
[08:56] <Hiro`> Then I tried all available.
[08:56] <cfhowlett> Hiro`, on my 14.04 + nvidia-prime, external hdmi monitor worked great
[08:56] <cfhowlett> no special config
[08:56] <hateball> Hiro`: What chipset is it?
[08:56] <Hiro`> Chipset?
[08:56] <hateball> Hiro`: If it is rather new you may benefit from using the drivers from https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[08:56] <hateball> Hiro`: Yes, your GPU chipset.
[08:57] <Hiro`> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4712HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz
[08:57] <hateball> Hiro`: what's the output of "lspci|grep VGA"
[08:57] <Hiro`> ah, sorry
[08:58] <Hiro`> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[08:58] <hateball> I see no mention of nvidia there
[08:59] <Hiro`> When I go to software and updates, I see: NVIDIA Corporation: GK107M [GeForce GT 750M]
[09:00] <Hiro`> Using NVIDIA Binary Driver - version 346.59 from nvidia-346
[09:00] <hateball> Hiro`: If you've enabled the proprietary driver, install nvidia-settings and see if you can tell it to always use the nvidia chipset
[09:01] <hateball> Hiro`: You may need to install nvidia-prime first, and remove bumblebee if you have installed that
[09:01] <Hiro`> hateball: thanks, how do I install the nvidia settings?
[09:01] <hateball> Hiro`: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings"
[09:01] <hateball> Hiro`: then just run "nvidia-settings"
[09:01] <hateball> I am not on a hybrid machine right now so I can't guide in the GUI I am afraid
[09:01] <shooter2kill> do you need root access to install ubuntu on your phone?
[09:02] <Hiro`> nvidia-settings is already the newest version.
[09:02] <Hiro`> nvidia-settings set to manually installed.
[09:02] <Hiro`>  
[09:03] <hateball> Hiro`: ah good. then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime"
[09:04] <Hiro`> already installed
[09:05] <hateball> Hiro`: then if you run nvidia-settings you should have options for prime
[09:05] <Hiro`> PRIME Profiles?
[09:05] <hateball> Hiro`: yep
[09:05] <hateball> Hiro`: You should be able to set it to prefer nvidia
[09:05] <Hiro`> Already set to NVIDIA.
[09:05] <hateball> Oh.
[09:06] <azulinox> buenas
[09:06] <azulinox> hay alguien vivo ?
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> !es
[09:06] <hateball> Hiro`: long shot but are you using an old hdmi cable that doesnt support enough bandwidth?
[09:07] <Hiro`> Don't think so. I gather it's a fresh one our IT uys got from Amazon.
[09:12] <pa> hi
[09:12] <pa> is it possible to do distribution upgrade from one LTS to the next without having to go through all those in between?
[09:13] <hateball> pa: That's the normal behavior if you're using LTS
[09:15] <lapix> anyone know where a file /swap/swap1 comes from ? lsof does not seem to know anything and googling that is a bit harder than expected
[09:16] <pa> ah great
[09:16] <pa> thanks
[09:17] <Stanley00> lapix: can you run "file /swap/swap1" to know the type of that file. If it's a swap file, most likely you can found it int /etc/fstab
[09:18] <zetheroo> In setting up Ubuntu to join an AD domain I have realized only now that it seems logging in with AD credentials can only occur when connected to the Network and to the AD server - unlike in Windowz where after the initial login is completed you can login with the same credentials and into the same user profile with the PC disconnected from the network. So what I wonder is - if I created a local user and pointed it to use the same home directory as the AD us
[09:19] <lapix> Stanley00, thanks, file reports its a swap. But when i try "grep swap /etc/fstab" or "mount | grep swap" i get nothing back
[09:19] <zetheroo> The aim would be to use "ADuser1" login when connected to the AD server, and when not conencted to use "localuser1" to login and still have the profile of "ADuser1" loaded.
[09:20] <hateball> zetheroo: if pam is configured correctly it should fallback to some form of local auth
[09:20] <Stanley00> lapix: maybe someone just created it, and don't use it anymore
[09:21] <zetheroo> hateball: really? I have been googling this for a couple hours now and cannot find any mention of a solution
[09:21] <hateball> zetheroo: I know from yesterday you're using some pre-configured thing, which I have no idea how it works, but there's a read https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/PAM_Offline_Authentication
[09:22] <zetheroo> The PBIS documentation even states: "If the AD provider is offline, you cannot logon with your AD credentials."
[09:22] <zetheroo>  hateball: aha ... yeah, afaik PBIS and winbind don't play nicely together ...
[09:23] <zetheroo> but I'll see if this can be done nevertheless
[09:24] <hateball> zetheroo: a quick google suggests pbis should cache the credentials
[09:24] <hateball> but I have not played with it since early days of likewise-open so I cannot say
[09:24] <zetheroo> maybe I am just searching the wrong thing :P
[09:24] <hateball> zetheroo: "cached credentials"
[09:31] <zetheroo> hateball: hmm ... seems like it's just supposed to work
[09:43] <multilaie> hello! soft
[09:44] <zetheroo> hateball: it's working now :)
[09:44] <multilaie> hello! can sudo apt-get autoremove puleaudio be harmful to the system?
[09:44] <zetheroo> for some reason as a VM it wasn't working, but I cloned it onto a laptop and it's working there ..
[09:46] <gshmu1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12447327/    the shell is ugly
[09:46] <wind> flash plugin
[09:47] <wind> adobe flash plugin does not work on ubuntu15.04 - -
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> wind: adobe flash is dying on linux, try chromium instead
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium-browser | wind
[09:49] <multilaie> I need help! entering sudo returns bash: sudo: command not found.
[09:49] <aref> :|
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> multilaie: what command di you do
[09:49] <multilaie> sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio
[09:49] <gshmu1> which sudo, and are you super user
[09:49] <multilaie> no, sudoer
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> multilaie: why are you gonna remove pulseaudio exactly?
[09:51] <Fod_> Monkeydust: thank you for the wget suggestion
[09:51] <wind> thanks
[09:51] <multilaie> sort of stupidity. I thought alsa alone would be fine scince i installed pulseaudio manually. That was no good idea, right?
[09:51] <aref> hi ! is there any good gui file recovery tool availble for ubuntu ?
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | aref
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> aref: sudo photorec after install, and scan your whole partition
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> !sound | multilaie
[09:55] <brothersome> !mouse | brothersome
[09:55] <aref> thank you very much.
[09:56] <KlausedSource> anyone else experiencing blackscreens with gdm 16.2 on an optimus setup?
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> KlausedSource: did you install nvidia-prime?
[09:58] <Exagone313> Hi, is there a way to install psad without postfix?
[09:59] <brothersome> Problem: imwheel crashes, so I need to configure my mouse manually
[10:20] <voldyman> hey guys, i have a 32bit system installed (14.04) can i swap out the kernel and install a 64bit kernel without changing the user land?
[10:25] <Mava> any cloud-init -developers here ? found a bug that might be intresting one
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> !bug | Mava
[10:26] <Mava> MonkeyDust: yea, can use google
[10:26] <Exagone313> Is it possible to allow nmap process to pass through iptables rules to block outgoing connections? I know this is not common
[10:26] <pc_> hello everyone
[10:27] <Exagone313> I don't want to remove my rules after I want to use nmap each time
[10:27] <Exagone313> before
[10:27] <pc_> i would like to know how to make an ubuntu bootable usb using Xubuunt
[10:27] <hateball> !info unetbootin
[10:27] <hateball> pc_: this is handy ^
[10:28] <pc_> hateball,  do i need administrator password to install it i think i do
[10:28] <livcd_> hi is there a way to prevent a serivce / program to start after i install it ?
[10:28] <hateball> pc_: Yes
[10:28] <pc_> actually, i dont have the passwd, the informatician did a shitty work on the computer
[10:29] <pc_> and they are still on the older versions of xubutu and ubuntu
[10:29] <pc_> impossible to update
[10:29] <pc_> and no one has the passwords at the office
[10:29] <voldyman> hey guys, i have a 32bit system installed (14.04) can i swap out the kernel and install a 64bit kernel without changing the user land?
[10:29] <hateball> pc_: well, you can reboot the machine into recovery mode and change password
[10:29] <teks> voldyman: I guess you'll have lots of issues, but at least you can try and see w/o removing 32-bit kernels, try installing from dpkg and then select 64-bit kernel at grub menu
[10:29] <pc_> hateball i can burn the iso too
[10:30] <pc_> but i was looking for the usb drive thing
[10:30] <voldyman> teks:  hmm, i'll try that. thanks
[10:30] <trijntje> pc_: you'll need administrative rights to use usb
[10:30] <livcd_> nobody knows :<
[10:30] <pc_> okay thank you then
[10:30] <trijntje> or use windows of course, you don't need ubuntu to create an ubuntu dvd
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> livcd_  there is, moment...
[10:31] <pc_> well, they have here just few old computers for the refugees with xubuntu
[10:31] <hateball> trijntje: iirc you can use dcfldd to dd to usb without root, but installing dcfldd requires root so moot point anyhow -_-
[10:31] <pc_> so that they ca communicate and browse the web
[10:31] <pc_> cann
[10:31] <pc_> even the keyboard is shitty
[10:32] <hateball> pc_: well if you can burn an iso, why not use that? why does it have to be USB?
[10:32] <kflom> what is this about
[10:32] <kflom> i just jon
[10:32] <pc_> hateball,  true, i just need to find someoe who sells free dvds a piece
[10:33] <Exagone313> pc_: it is maybe easier to chroot and change root password
[10:33] <trijntje> pc_: please also note that default ubuntu is heavy, so on older pc's I'd use xubuntu or lubuntu
[10:33] <davesidious> Hey folks - is there a way to change the orange colour in Ubuntu 15.04?  The particular orange used when selecting directories, in the UI, etc.  I've already changed the text selection colour.
[10:33] <Exagone313> than reinstall
[10:33] <kflom> i just he
[10:33] <pc_> i thought with the usb i could do it fast and dont have to go out and look for a cd
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> livcd_  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12447534/
[10:33] <pc_> trijntje,  i'm on xubuntu
[10:33] <hateball> pc_: even if you can only burn one, that would make you able to liveboot your current installed system, chroot and change passwords, then you'll have root access to do whatever
[10:34] <kflom> am i writing to human being
[10:34] <trijntje> hateball: provided they didn't set up xubuntu with encrypted home
[10:34] <trijntje> !hi | kflom
[10:34] <kflom> hi
[10:35] <pc_> okay thank you guys
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> kflom  this is the ubuntu support channel
[10:35] <pc_> the iso burn way it is
[10:35] <pc_> have a nice week end
[10:35] <trijntje> kflom: there are a lot of people here, if you have a question you can just ask and people will respond if they know the answer
[10:35] <kflom> am a new user and i dont know what is about
[10:35] <pc_> buon fine settimana
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> kflom  people come here to help ask for help on ubuntu
[10:35] <livcd_> MonkeyDust: aah i do not believe this is the one
[10:37] <kflom> ok  great bluetooth is not working and i can not activate it
[10:37] <kflom> is that silly question
[10:38] <Kruppt> service <service name> stop
[10:38] <kflom> if it is pls help me
[10:38] <hateball> kflom: Define "not working"
[10:38] <hateball> kflom: Do you see any indication on your computer that it is physically enabled, like a blue light? Does it not connect to devices?
[10:39] <kflom> it can not be enabled
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> kflom  install blueman (bluetooth manager)
[10:39] <Kruppt> sudo service <service name> stop
[10:40] <hateball> kflom: You may also be missing firmware needed, run "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" in a terminal to check for that
[10:40] <kflom> the blutooth icon is still in my computer but it can not be activated
[10:41] <hateball> kflom: if you run "rfkill list" in a terminal, does it say anything about bluetooth being blocked?
[10:41] <Kruppt> sudo sysv-rc-conf
[10:44] <lenzzzz> hello guys
[10:44] <lenzzzz> please can you tell me where I can find qperf pakage
[10:44] <lenzzzz> in which repo it is?
[10:45] <EriC^^> !info qperf
[10:45] <lenzzzz> yeah
[10:45] <EriC^^> which ubuntu?
[10:45] <lenzzzz> vivid
[10:45] <lenzzzz> 32 bit
[10:45] <EriC^^> no idea
[10:45] <deby> buongiorno
[10:45] <lenzzzz> I'm trying to compile the ubuntu touch
[10:46] <lenzzzz> and qperf needed
[10:46] <deby> hello
[10:46] <deby> !list
[10:46] <lenzzzz> as the official manual says
[10:47] <hateball> !touch
[10:47] <hateball> lenzzzz: probably get better answers there ^
[10:48] <lenzzzz> ubottu: hateball , yeah, but actually I reading about dependencies on official page
[10:49] <lenzzzz> seems I need to install 14.04
[10:49] <lenzzzz> thanks for the help guys
[10:49] <lenzzzz> i'll better will reinstall to 14.4
[10:49] <lenzzzz> bye...
[10:50] <hateball> There's no qperf package in 14.04
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> or in 12.04
[10:52] <Ben64> theres no qperf in ubuntu
[10:53] <EriC^^> !find qperf
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> all of us wonder what qperf is ... https://community.mellanox.com/docs/DOC-2093
[10:56] <weeirc8089> so I have this hibernate/resume failure which happens also in mint
[10:56] <Ben64> go to the mint support channel for mint
[10:57] <weeirc8089> it is probably related to the kernel / intel /dell driver /bios/hardware
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> weeirc8089  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[10:58] <weeirc8089> MonkeyDust: I think this problem is more deepish than irc chan can do
[10:59] <weeirc8089> MonkeyDust: it happens _once_ in a while
[10:59] <weeirc8089> sometimes it just hangs on resuming
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> weeirc8089  this is an irc channel, not sure what you mean
[10:59] <weeirc8089> Is there an acceptable place where I can submit such bug?
[10:59] <weeirc8089> anyone know?
[10:59] <weeirc8089> I mean askubuntu.com is definitely NO-GO
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> !bug | weeirc8089
[11:00] <Ben64> well so far you've given absolutely no information
[11:01] <weeirc8089> is there like a kernel bug report site? Like, this isssue is not broad enough to submit on github/kernel issue tracker
[11:01] <Ben64> answer our questions first
[11:01] <weeirc8089> this is not ubuntu specific - it happens on mint as well
[11:01] <Ben64> go to the mint channel for mint support
[11:01] <weeirc8089> so definitely not an 'ubuntu'-classified bug
[11:02] <weeirc8089> probably more a kernel bug than an ubuntu bug
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> weeirc8089  provide details
[11:02] <Ben64> unlikely
[11:03] <weeirc8089> MonkeyDust: ok, when hibernating I see msg in console: "ACPI: hardware state changed while hibernating, success doubtful!"
[11:04] <weeirc8089> ^^^ not everytime I hibernate
[11:07] <weeirc8089> more ofen I see the : "drm:i915 [drm:ilk_display_irq_handler] *ERROR* Pipe A FIFO underrunbuffer underrun"
[11:07] <weeirc8089> sorry for typo
[11:08] <weeirc8089> [drm:ilk_display_irq_handler] *ERROR* Pipe A FIFO underrun
[11:10] <weeirc8089> so I see this: bugzilla.kernel.org site --
[11:11] <weeirc8089> which seems more of a fit than askubuntu.com
[11:11] <hateball> weeirc8089: you could ask over in ##linux as well
[11:13] <weeirc8089> does ubuntu launchpad bugtracker site even support hibernation bugs? (I ask b/c hibernation is disabled by default)
[11:13] <weeirc8089> ?
[11:18] <auronandace> weeirc8089: hibernation can be tricky especially so when using non-free drivers
[11:19] <samsher> System becomes unresponsive! Caps lock and Scroll Lock light flashes after logging in the system!
[11:20] <aquarius> My keyboard is behaving weirdly. Some ctrl+key combinations have stopped working, in all applications. Ctrl+S works fine (and saves things); Ctrl+F is ignored in any application, as are Ctrl+arrow keys. xev shows that the keypresses themselves happen. My keyboard is still set to English (UK) as it always has been, and I tried changing it and then changing it back and it didn't help. How might I debug this?
[11:23] <Dro__> how can i work with multiple lines in an editor on ubuntu ?
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> Dro__  what editor?
[11:25] <Dro__> MonkeyDust, phpstorm
[11:28] <teks> weeirc8089: my experience with suspend/hibernate issues on Linux: they're not trivial to fix, highly specific to make/model of laptop. distros rely on upstream kernel hackers for a fix. you need to supply lots of acpi dumps and other info if you can arrange a good hacker
[11:29] <weeirc8089> teks: thanks.
[11:29] <teks> it takes time, it's suboptimal, I learned to never rely on suspend/hibernate on linux
[11:30] <goppo> hi
[11:30] <goppo> if the FS is encrypted, are the copies of a file from the FS to an USB stick also encrypted?
[11:30] <hateball> goppo: no
[11:30] <aquarius> willcooke, who knows about keyboards and input methods and stuff for my above question?
[11:31] <rishabh__> update
[11:31] <goppo> hateball: but when you make a copy of a file, isn't the copy encrypted?
[11:31] <rishabh__> ccr#$
[11:32] <weeirc8089> 11:19:54        teks | weeirc8089: my experience with suspend/hibernate issues on Linux: they're not trivial to   . ^peter^
[11:32] <goppo> how does it know when to make a decrypted copy
[11:34] <willcooke> aquarius, what the hell have you been doing?!  happyaron might be able to help (EOD now) and maybe attente who will be on in a couple of hours
[11:34] <aquarius> willcooke, hence puzzlement :)
[11:34] <aquarius> I thought at first the ctrl key was stuck down or broken or something
[11:34] <aquarius> I have no idea where to even *look* to resolve this
[11:35] <willcooke> aquarius, the fact that xev is seeing them sounds like s/w not h/w
[11:35] <willcooke> aquarius, I'm just going for lunch, I'll ping you when I'm back
[11:35] <aquarius> willcooke, yup (that's why I tested it). Ctrl and F both work independently, too, as do the arrow keys, so it's not that the keyboard itself is bust, thankfully
[11:36] <Dumle29> Ubuntu is taking quite a while to boot, even though it's on a decent SSD. On bootup, after grub, it puts up something along the lines of "ACPI probe failed" and then it either spends an eternity on "Starting version 219" or "XUbuntu 15.04 starting"
[11:37] <Dumle29> I'm running ubuntu gnome, and decided I'd try out xubuntu a good while back, but didn't like it, so I switched back to gnome (this was all pre 15.04)
[11:37] <Dumle29> IIRC I installed xubuntu-desktop. Could it be the xubuntu part that is messing with the boot?
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> Dumle29: did you change bios from ied to ahci?
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> ide
[11:38] <Dumle29> lotuspsychje: Any way that I can check this from the OS?
[11:38] <Dumle29> I think I did, but I'm not entirely sure
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> Dumle29: for ssd it should be set to ahci, wich brand is your ssd?
[11:39] <Dumle29> lotuspsychje: Crucial_CT128MX100SSD1 is the entire model number
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> Dumle29: checked their website for firmware updates too?
[11:40] <Dumle29> Never really thought about that no
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> Dumle29: xubuntu should be very fast on ssd
[11:40] <Dumle29> I'm running ubuntu gnome, but it seems the xubuntu part of my install handles boot and login. From there it switches to gnome for window manager
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> Dumle29: might be interesting to see your syslog and dmesg also, paste them in channel togheter with your issue
[11:41] <Yll4llY> im about to install Kali from usb:P wana check this
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[11:41] <Dumle29> thanks for the help :)
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> Yll4llY  good luck, but you cannot come here for kali support
[11:42] <Yll4llY> hm i wonder why?
[11:42] <bazhang> #kali-linux Yll4llY
[11:42] <Yll4llY> oh
[11:42] <Yll4llY> ok
[11:42] <bazhang> its not ubuntu, thats why
[11:43] <Yll4llY> well okay i wasnt needing help actualy just sharing
[11:49] <ubuntu> hi
[11:50] <Guest31157> kon si channe;l
[11:50] <Guest31157> 'koi he
[11:50] <Guest31157>  help chahiyaw
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> Guest31157  what is your language?
[11:51] <nickname123> MonkeyDust, where are you from
[11:52] <Guest31157> india
[11:53] <Guest31157> English Hindi And gujarati
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> Guest31157  ok, use English in this channel
[11:53] <Guest31157> sure bosss
[11:54] <nickname123> ffffffffffffffffff
[11:54] <Guest31157> i have proble in mozila firefox not going well
[11:54] <Guest31157> i am new in ubuntu user
[11:54] <hateball> What is the problem?
[11:55] <nickname123> what is the problem
[11:56] <Guest31157> when i open firefox and search for things is only stay for a minute or less and quit automatically
[11:57] <Guest31157> and also when installing ubantu , not even ask for which drive to setup and erase all my data
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> Guest31157  then select 'something else' during installation
[11:59] <Guest31157> can i recover my data???
[11:59] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> Guest31157  yes, with testdisk or photorec
[12:00] <hateball> !restore
[12:00] <hateball> :/
[12:00] <hateball> !recover
[12:01] <shooter2kill> hey all i download 100 wallpapers but there in 3 rar files 7zip saying it cant open them
[12:01] <shooter2kill> do i need a program like winrar ?
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> !zip | shooter2kill
[12:05] <mircx1> Hola
[12:05] <mircx1> what is a commands from Terminal to httpd restart
[12:05] <hateball> !unrar
[12:05] <hateball> shooter2kill: ^
[12:06] <shooter2kill> ok thanks
[12:08] <Dumle29> Hello there. I was told to post these two links along with my issue:
[12:08] <Dumle29> Syslog: http://pastebin.com/qpHLs1Md DMESG: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12447951/
[12:08] <Dumle29> Ubuntu is taking quite a while to boot, even though it's on a decent SSD. On bootup, after grub, it puts up something along the lines of "ACPI probe failed" and then it either spends an eternity on "Starting version 219" or "XUbuntu 15.04 starting"
[12:08] <Dumle29> I'm running ubuntu gnome, and decided I'd try out xubuntu a good while back, but didn't like it, so I switched back to gnome (this was all pre 15.04)
[12:08] <Dumle29> IIRC I installed xubuntu-desktop. Could it be the xubuntu part that is messing with the boot?
[12:08] <Dumle29> lotuspsychje: Crucial_CT128MX100SSD1 is the entire model number
[12:09] <Dumle29> Ignore the lotuspsychje part. That's just who helped me earlier :)
[12:11] <hateball> Dumle29: is this on 15.04?
[12:11] <Dumle29> yes :)
[12:12] <hateball> A quick google suggests slow loadtimes might be an issue with the nvidia driver, but it should have been fixed long ago
[12:12] <hateball> Dumle29: Are you using 346 ?
[12:13] <Dumle29> let me have a look
[12:13] <shooter2kill> thanks hateball just installed unrar apt-get unrar ......i can now just right click extract ...awesome thanks
[12:13] <Dumle29> hateball: 340.76
[12:14] <Dumle29> hateball: That's the  newest option I get in the "Software and Updates" "Additional Drivers" section
[12:14] <hateball> Dumle29: Alright. What chipset are you using?
[12:14] <Dumle29> Oh never mind, I just relaunced it, now I see 346.59
[12:14] <Dumle29> 660ti
[12:14] <hateball> Dumle29: Try changing to 346 first
[12:14] <Dumle29> will do
[12:18] <Dumle29> I want this :D http://www.viatech.com/en/boards/mini-itx/epia-m920/
[12:18] <Dumle29> wrong channel
[12:19] <Dumle29> hateball: Will report back next reboot to see if changing helped :) Thanks
[12:20] <Flaeshi> Hello!
[12:20] <Flaeshi> I am on Ubuntu 15.04 with Libreoffice 4.4
[12:21] <Flaeshi> Could someone help me with getting the presenter console in Impress up and running? I have 2 monitors plugged in, however, the presenter-console won't start.
[12:21] <Flaeshi> Any ideas?
[12:23] <ubuntu> 55555
[12:25] <Bluepotato> hi there
[12:25] <admin0> “affinity_hint subset empty” — all i see is how to supress/remove this info, but is this message an indication of an actual issue ?
[12:26] <Bluepotato> i was trying to figure out if some problem i was having was caused by the propietary ati driver, so i switched to the opensource driver via the gui
[12:26] <Bluepotato> however, now gdm does not seem to want to start
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> admin0  where, when do you see that?
[12:27] <admin0> dmesg
[12:27] <Bluepotato> is there some config file i can edit from my liveusb setup that will switch back to the propietary driver?
[12:27] <admin0> MonkeyDust: , http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general/1252834 i see similar issues reported by others that they start seeing it, but only solution is how to supress it .. but not understanindg “why” its coming in the first place ?
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> adeschamps  where, when does that error popup, while you were doing what?
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> admin0  ^^^
[12:29] <admin0> turns out, its specific in openstack .. bug reported => https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/irqbalance/+bug/1321425
[12:30] <mariusz__> hi
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> admin0  ok, openstack... is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[12:30] <admin0> an openstack process on a ubuntu-server
[12:30] <admin0> so i thought it was by ubuntu
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> admin0  yes, but #ubuntu-server is a dedicated channel
[12:32] <admin0> oh ..
[12:32] <admin0> now i get it :)
[12:32] <admin0> thanks
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> admin0  and there are some 1000 users in #openstack
[12:34] <admin0> i was trying to ask here first if its ubuntu specific .
[12:34] <admin0> thanks guys ..
[12:34] <mircx1> someone can please tell to me how i install in ubuntu 14.04 XMLRPC?
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> mircx1  it's called php5-xmlrpc
[12:36] <Pici> mircx1: xmlrpc is a specification, what are you trying to accomplish?
[12:37] <Flaeshi> Do you guys know how to enable the presenter console in libreoffice impress?
[12:39] <pressure679> How can I change cconfigure the text terminal in tty? (the one when you press ctrl + alt + f1)
[12:40] <hateball> Flaeshi: it enables itself by default when you connect an external monitor
[12:40] <Flaeshi> hateball: it should, yes. I do have a second, external monitor connected. However, it wont start...
[12:41] <IHateMyIsp> pressure679: define "configure"
[12:43] <mircx1> ok
[12:43] <mircx1> but something not a work
[12:46] <Guest325387> hey all, done a dist upgrade from saucy to trusty tahr (14.04 LTS), and there seems to be a shellshock vunerability to cve 2014 7187?
[12:46] <Guest325387> thanks ubot ;)
[12:48] <Pici> Guest325387: How are you testing for it?
[12:49] <ubuntu778> Hi, I have lenovo G50-70 , currently using windows 7 and Ubuntu , In windows i am getting battery backup up to 3 hours but in linux just 1.5 to 2 hours...I installed all drivers in Linux
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu778  TLP to the rescue ... http://refugeeks.com/use-tlp-to-optimize-the-power-consumption-in-ubuntu/
[12:50] <curiousx> ubuntu778: https://github.com/linrunner/TLP
[12:51] <provolik> Hi to all
[12:52] <provolik> I installed ubuntu minimal 15.04 over a virtual machine (using virtual box)
[12:52] <ubuntu778> ok
[12:52] <provolik> it works, but I cannot find a way to make the autologin on tty1 works
[12:52] <Guest-shellshock> Pici: a script, this particular line tests this aspect of shellshock (apologies for nic change - using web interface..)
[12:53] <provolik> I tried with getty but I have no tty1.conf file in /etc/init/
[12:53] <provolik> Is there some solution?
[12:54] <streulma> Hello, when I shutdown my 15.04 PC then I get CPU FIFO Underrun on the 2 notebooks.
[12:54] <SonikkuAmerica> provolik: We don't use upstart anymore, we use systemd
[12:54] <streulma> How can I slove this?
[12:55] <Guest-shellshock> Pici: https://shellshocker.net/  Exploit 5
[12:55] <Guest-shellshock> the script I'm using seems to note vunerable, yet thier command doesn't.
[12:55] <provolik> SonikkuAmerica, I don't know this change. What I have to do?
[12:55]  * Guest-shellshock begins to suspect script
[12:55] <streulma> what are FIFO underruns ?
[12:56] <Pici> Guest-shellshock: The only thing that I can say is that because Ubuntu backports patches, any tests against version numbers might be erroneous.  Pasting that into a bash shell here (on a fully updated 14.04) does not fail.
[12:56]  * Guest-shellshock notes bash is at 4.3.11, and 4.3.7 included fix for SS
[12:56] <SonikkuAmerica> provolik: Well, with the transition to systemd we've dropped using /etc/init.d/anything.*, so what you'll need to do is write up a systemd .service file for your virtual console
[12:57] <Guest-shellshock> hence my suspect
[12:57] <Guest-shellshock> Pici: right - here niether. The script i was using failed on Ubuntu, but I have access to a Fedora board which didn't fail..
[12:57] <provolik> SonikkuAmerica, thank you. Are you expert enough to advise me a good tutorial or is it better to google for it?
[12:58] <Guest-shellshock> Pici: thanks, I'll debug with an admin here and see. Cheers!
[12:58] <Pici> Guest-shellshock: good luck :)
[12:58] <ubuntu778> Cannot add PPA: '"Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~linrunner/+archive/tlp: (7, 'Failed to connect to launchpad.net port 443: Connection refused')"'
[12:59] <SonikkuAmerica> provolik: While this was written for ArchLinux, it's a basic run on a micro-level for creating such a .service - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Automatic_login_to_virtual_console
[12:59] <SonikkuAmerica> provolik: Or rather, a systemd conffile, not a .service file
[12:59] <zai> Hi there! Something is messing with my sound volume settings (almost) every time a program causes a notification sound (pidgin message, received email in thunderbird, screenshot via gnome-screenshot...). it changes master volume to 0, PCM to 100%, etc.  Any idea how I can debug the problem?
[13:00] <provolik> SonikkuAmerica, thank you very much
[13:00] <zai> (pulseaudio in ubuntu 14.04.3)
[13:01] <ubuntu778> Cannot add PPA: '"Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~linrunner/+archive/tlp: (7, 'Failed to connect to launchpad.net port 443: Connection refused')"'
[13:01] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuntu778: Firewall blocks port?
[13:02] <ubuntu778> Is any other way..?
[13:03] <thevaliantx> how can i open up port 25565?  That's the port that the minecraft server I installed is using.  I think the server is using the port, but nothing outside the computer can access the port.
[13:03] <SonikkuAmerica> thevaliantx: Forward it through your router?
[13:04] <ubuntu778> @SonikkuAmerica  Is any other way ?
[13:04] <thevaliantx> i have a cisco router, it is not directly connected to this box and typing in 192.168.1.1 doesn't let me into the router
[13:04] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuntu778: (Side comment, why on earth would any sensible entity block an HTTPS port?)
[13:04] <ubuntu778> SonikkuAmerica In my college
[13:04] <luis_> \connect  irc.thevault.bz
[13:05] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuntu778: I'd have a conversation with IT.
[13:05] <thevaliantx> also i wonder if there is any way to make my HP printer remember its IP address.  i keep having to reconnect it to the network through its panel
[13:05] <ubuntu778> SonikkuAmerica:
 now what should I do ?
[13:08] <TheLourie10> Hey fellow debian users, what would you recommend for a low cost Android phone that is pgp capable and can have mobile ubuntu on it?
[13:10] <ubuntu778> Cannot add PPA: '"Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~linrunner/+archive/tlp: (7, 'Failed to connect to launchpad.net port 443: Connection refused')"'.
[13:11] <Enriac> I all;
[13:11] <Enriac> who speak french please ?
[13:12] <Pici> !fr | Enriac
[13:12] <Enriac> Ok so i try
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:13] <Enriac> How can I make my 81 visible port from outside
[13:13] <Enriac> i have a preprod website in 81 port (url:81)
[13:13] <Enriac> And i wan to see from outside this site
[13:13] <Enriac> i have an apache serveur
[13:13] <Enriac> server*
[13:13] <Enriac> on virtualhost server
[13:14] <hateball> That depends on your network, if you're NATed behind a router etc
[13:14] <Enriac> OMG i don't know that
[13:14] <Enriac> i just can modify my apache2.conf avec 000-site.conf
[13:14] <hateball> Enriac: Maybe you can get better help for that in ##networking
[13:14] <Enriac> ty hateball
[13:15] <zai> Enriac: also, look at /etc/apache2/ports.conf which ports it's listening to. change and restart apache
[13:15] <swatch> s
[13:16] <Enriac> zai: Yes Listen 81 is in my port.conf
[13:18] <Hawk554> Enriac: whats the model of router you are using?
[13:18] <esseks> ratrace, if you are interested, I solved it by adding GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=wxh to /etc/default/grub (where wxh is my true screen resolution)
[13:18] <esseks> and running update-grub, ofc
[13:19] <Enriac> Hawk554: i don't know its not my job :s
[13:19] <admin0> in /proc/irq/default_smp_affinity , i see some systems have ffff,ffffffff,ffffffff,ffffffff,ffffffff  while some have ffff,ffffffff .. which is the correct one ? all system are same and have same number (32) cpus
[13:19] <Hawk554> Enriac: Have you confirmed that you can reach the server on 81 locally from your workstation?
[13:20] <esseks> I'm having a hard time interpreting the 14.04.x kernel support schedule (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=14.04.x+Ubuntu+Kernel+Support+Schedule.png)... The vertical arrow means 14.04.{2,3,4} will be automatically update to 14.04.5 when it's out or what?
[13:20] <Enriac> Hawk554: yes i can work on my prepro website with url:81
[13:20] <Enriac> just if i am connect on my ethernet network i can see the preprod websiste on url:81
[13:20] <pressure679> How do you set the blinking underscore cursor to non-blinking block cursor in tty terminal?
[13:21] <Hawk554> If you don't have access to modify the edge router/firewall I would really speak with whoever manages that to see if they can get the port setup from the outside
[13:21] <esseks> pressure679, did you try http://unix.stackexchange.com/q/3759?
[13:21] <fabioff61> gi
[13:22] <fabioff61> i kill you
[13:22] <fabioff61> you too
[13:22] <ikonia> ?
[13:22] <ikonia> fabioff61: problem ?
[13:22] <Hawk554> Also, are you trying to use url:81 from the outside also? If so then you may need to request to add an A record for your host so it can be resolvable from the internet
[13:23] <isaia> how do i make a script to start every time  Ubuntu server starts ?
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> isaia  a cron job comes to mind ... use @reboot
[13:24] <eviladmin> isaia: what does your script do
[13:24] <eviladmin> isaia: and exactly when do you need it to run?
[13:25] <isaia> i am starting an aplication
[13:25] <esseks> isaia, simplest (and most brutal way) is /etc/rc.local, but I'd really think about writing a small upstart/systemd job script... it's really easy
[13:25] <pressure679> esseks: thank you
[13:25] <eviladmin> isaia: *what* does said application do?
[13:25] <isaia> nohup mono /usr/local/app/now/whatever.exe > cent.out 2> cen.err < /dev/null &
[13:25] <thevaliantx> * thinks it funny that people would assume a 'network' being talked about in here is anything more than a long picnic table with 3 computers:  one for playing games on Win 7, one for learning Linux and one for looking up pr0n.  That machine is reinstalled after each session.  The middle computer has potato chip crumbs in the keyboard and a linux handbook with coffee stains in the pages.  "le tme talk to tech support...." :)
[13:25] <eviladmin> rc.local is never the correct solution
[13:26] <esseks> in fact I said it's the most brutal way eviladmin :)
[13:26] <eviladmin> the most brutal would be init=/the/app :p
[13:27] <teiion> if I try to ssh to some company servers I get "permission denien" unless I'm running a full Unity session - in fluxbox for example I can't connect. What DE component is messing with ssh?
[13:27] <isaia> so i just edit the rc.local and add "nohup mono /usr/local/app/now/whatever.exe > cent.out 2> cen.err < /dev/null &"  ?
[13:27] <esseks> teiion, key or password login?
[13:28] <teiion> esseks: key login, it says Permission denied (publickey)
[13:29] <esseks> teiion, try running -vv to see whether the correct key is offered, and/or add -i .ssh/key to the line if you don't do that already
[13:29] <fritz4fun> Trying to use mail to send from a VM to the internet. Successfully installed postfix. this is what /var/log/mail.log says:      vagrant-ubuntu-trusty-32 postfix/sendmail[4013]: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[13:30] <fritz4fun> any ideas
[13:30] <esseks> isaia, yes it works, but you should feel bad. Really, writing an upstart job is like 8 lines
[13:31] <isaia> i am not an expert :)
[13:31] <zhuxi> hey
[13:31] <isaia> 8 lines of whatever i do not know can take me forever :)
[13:32] <streulma> related to Intel i915 driver, is it the video driver that's crash? FIFO UNDERRUN
[13:35] <esseks> isaia, try adapting this http://pastebin.com/dmmg8Fmt, drop it in /etc/init, issue "sudo initctl reload-configuration" and then you should be done
[13:37] <isaia> thank you esseks
[13:37] <fritz4fun> It appears that postfix is installed, but I cant find etc/postfix/main.cf
[13:39] <aces1up> what is a apt-get source uri i can put in my sources.list for wheezy
[13:40] <cfhowlett> aces1up, mixing distro repos is a bad idea.
[13:40] <cfhowlett> and wheezy is not supported here.  #debian
[13:41] <vooze> I'm trying to change unity-greeter theme. I have changed it in dconf under com.canonical.unity-greeter and checked the theme in /usr/share/themes does have a unity-greeter.css file. Am I missing something?
[13:42] <fritz4fun> hwo to access the postfix configuration. I missed it during during apt-get install postfix
[13:42] <esseks> fritz4fun, sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix?
[13:46] <ule> Hi there! Anyone would like to share your Fluxbox menu config for default instalation of Ubuntu 14.* ?
[13:47] <fritz4fun> esseks, thanks
[13:48] <pressure679> esseks: the solution works until I open vim which reverts the cursor style.
[14:07] <tykayn> hey folks
[14:07] <tykayn> i have installed an IRC client on my ubuntu 14 server,
[14:08] <tykayn> and i want to setup a chat bot to log what is said on the freenode #!q room
[14:08] <tykayn> how can i do this ?
[14:10] <ikonia> tykayn: look up documentation on IRC bots ?
[14:12] <Elohim> tykayn  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-the-lita-chat-bot-for-irc-on-ubuntu-14-04
[14:13] <tykayn> ikonia: all i find is a lending proposal of bots
[14:13] <tykayn> oh ill check this
[14:24] <valera_> Где можно взять установочный файл Steam 64-bit?
[14:34] <broman> how can i exclude a path from find?
[14:37] <fritz4fun> hey guys, have someone of you successfully send emails with postfix from a ubuntu virtual machine to the internet
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> broman  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-osx-bsd-find-command-exclude-directories/
[14:37] <broman> ty MonkeyDust
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: seems like my box showed a generic firmware for the rt2800pci
[15:02] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: i see
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: so this generic firmware must be in updates, so the offline box cant get the wifi card working
[15:03] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: yeah
[15:08] <wowa_s> Hi
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> wowa_s: welcome, what can we do for you?
[15:10] <wowa_s> :P im test client irc dev with mono
[15:10] <tornymous> salut a tous
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> !fr | tornymous
[15:11] <tornymous> thank's
[15:16] <tegar_> tes
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | tornymous
[15:19] <tornymous> i see the forum ubuntu-fr.org, but i have always problems
[15:20] <gre__> wag1
[15:20] <gre__> people joining all over
[15:20] <gre__> anyone online?
[15:20] <Ohtred> Indeed I am.
[15:20] <cfhowlett> !ask  | gre__,
[15:21] <mint> H
[15:21] <gre__> !patience
[15:21] <mircx1> i have problem with xmlrpc
[15:21] <gre__> what is it?
[15:22] <mircx1> ERROR :Invalid command in negotiation phase: GET
[15:22] <Guest62737> Hello, im having an issue trying to install linux on my SSD, it wont detect it for the installation, but i can find it under gpart
[15:22] <mircx1> what is mean the error?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> gre__  this is the ubuntu support channel... sure you have to be here?
[15:22] <tornymous> i have a problem with php5, see pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/12449743/
[15:22] <tornymous> please
[15:22] <tornymous> thank's
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> Guest62737: did you change bios from IDE to AHCI?
[15:23] <Guest62737> lotuspsychje: actually, i havent yet to try that!
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> Guest62737: please doublecheck first, wich ssd brand you have?
[15:23] <Guest62737> lotuspsychje: back in 5-10mins, will check, and OCZ 2 vortext 60gb ssd
[15:23] <compdoc> Guest62737, Ive seen some new drives go undetected that didnt contain a partition type
[15:23] <compdoc> thats a very old ssd
[15:24] <Guest62737> compdoc: i have my 850PRO set up for win7 heh
[15:24] <EriC^^> might be stray gpt too
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> Guest62737: maybe also check for firmware updates on ocz site
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> Guest62737: what a waste, your 850 should be all ubuntu :p
[15:25] <EriC^^> Guest62737: are you in the live usb right now?
[15:25] <Guest62737> lotuspsychje: hehe right! i plan on doing ubuntu for awhile, and once im stuck, everything will be wiped, and main ubuntu :p (damn that directX! for WIN)  :D
[15:25] <Guest62737> EriC^^: aye, live USB
[15:25] <EriC^^> Guest62737: ok, type sudo parted -l
[15:25] <EriC^^> what's it say about the partition type?
[15:27] <Guest62737> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/KF1Lpj53
[15:29] <EriC^^> Guest62737: ok, type sudo fixparts /dev/sdb
[15:29] <EriC^^> does it say it found stray gpt?
[15:29] <tegar_> tes
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> !test | tegar_
[15:30] <anony> καλησπέρα - Hello. Anyone ever had encountered issues with LUKS? (keyboard wasn't working?)
[15:30] <Guest62737> EriC^^: Loading MBR data from /dev/sdb
[15:30] <Guest62737> Warning: 0xEE partition doesn't start on sector 1. This can cause problems
[15:30] <EriC^^> Guest62737: ok, anything else?
[15:30] <Guest62737> EriC^^: no, that's all i see.
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> bbl movienight :p
[15:31] <EriC^^> Guest62737: ok, i guess should check what lotuspsychje said
[15:31] <Guest62737> EriC^^: kk gonna try that now, brb
[15:32] <Guest62737> EriC^^: thanks for the help, same with lotus
[15:35] <noahmg123> I can connect to a host with ssh but not with sshfs.
[15:36] <reisio> noahmg123: not using any special options?
[15:36] <noahmg123> At least not on one computer. Another works fine with both.
[15:36] <noahmg123> reisio: nope.
[15:36] <reisio> what's sshfs say
[15:37] <noahmg123> read: Connection reset by peer
[15:38] <mint_> EriC^^: hey man, it was already set to ACHI or whatever hehe
[15:38] <noahmg123> reisio: so? what should I do?
[15:39] <reisio> noahmg123: double check your credentials
[15:39] <reisio> re-copy any keys if you're using those
[15:40] <noahmg123> reisio: SSH works so I think I have the right credentials.
[15:41] <reisio> different commands, different opportunities to typo something
[15:42] <noahmg123> resio: the machine I am trying this on is a cloud machine. If I copy and paste the exact command to my local machine and run it I am greeted with a password prompt.
[15:43] <mint_> EriC^^: still around mate?
[15:44] <reisio> noahmg123: a cloud machine?
[15:44] <noahmg123> reisio: yeah. just a moment. I am going to try something.
[15:45] <reisio> cloud... doesn't mean anything
[15:45] <noahmg123> reisio: Didnt work. BTW it is an ubuntu machine with my Cloud9 account
[15:47] <reisio> same sshfs versions?
[15:47] <noahmg123> resio: good question. let me check.
[15:47] <reisio> noahmg123: r-e-i-TAB
[15:48] <EriC^^> mint_: hey, yeah
[15:48] <EriC^^> mint_: maybe it has leftover raid stuff? was it ever part of a raid?
[15:49] <rahulbansal> I installed a package, when I try to execute it, it runs, but when I try to uninstall it, terminal says package not installed
[15:49] <rahulbansal> How to uninstall it>
[15:49] <rahulbansal> ?
[15:50] <mint_> EriC^^: i don't think so, i used to have it as a windows boot, then i cloned it to a HDD instead, and looking to wipe it so i can main ubuntu on it
[15:50] <reisio> rahulbansal: how'd you install it?
[15:50] <noahmg123> reisio: sorry. OK. For some reason my cloud maching does not echo a line stating it's sshfs version (but does with it's one for FUSE). I put it into debog mode and got 'fuse: invalid argument `TCPKeepAlive=yes'´
[15:50] <noahmg123> debug*
[15:50] <EriC^^> mint_: if you're going to wipe it, you could try cleaning a fresh partition table, maybe that would help
[15:51] <EriC^^> *creating
[15:51] <mint_> EriC^^: how would i go about and doing that mate?
[15:51] <rahulbansal> reisio: sudo apt-get install
[15:51] <rahulbansal> actually I installed proxychains vs 3
[15:51] <EriC^^> mint_: type sudo parted -l to get the disk name first in case it changed
[15:52] <noahmg123> reisio: nevemind the debug mode error. I was msitaken
[15:52] <rahulbansal> using sudo apt-get install proxychains., after that I installed proxychains4 using zip file (  ./configure make && make install)
[15:52] <mircx1> i have problem with xmlrpc
[15:53] <mircx1> ERROR :Invalid command in negotiation phase: GET
[15:53] <mint_> EriC^^: it's the same as before. now that i know it's /dev/sdb/ what do i do?
[15:53] <noahmg123> reisio: ok they are both the same version
[15:53] <rahulbansal> reisio: both of them use same config file, so when  I uninstalled the proxycxhain vs3 it also removed the config file for proxychains4
[15:53] <EriC^^> mint_: ok, type sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[15:53] <EriC^^> then press o to create a new partition table, then press w to write it
[15:54] <noahmg123> reisio: and suggestions?
[15:55] <mint_> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/2PqEDWFX
[15:55] <mircx1> someone plesae?
[15:56] <EriC^^> mint_: ok, looks good, try the installer again
[15:56] <Pici> mircx1: are you programming something?
[15:57] <cfhowlett> !details | mircx1
[15:57] <mircx1> this a error
[15:57] <mircx1> http://pastie.org/10429412
[15:58] <Pici> mircx1: What are you doing that produces that error?
[15:58] <mircx1> i have problem with xmlrpc
[15:58] <mircx1> i install it
[15:58] <mircx1> and i get error from website
[15:59] <Pici> mircx1: PHP?
[15:59] <mint_> EriC^^: awesome, it works bud! thanks a ton.
[15:59] <EriC^^> mint_: great! no problem
[15:59] <mint_> EriC^^: have a wonderful weekend.
[15:59] <mircx1> php5
[15:59] <EriC^^> mint_: thanks, you too
[16:02] <noahmg123> I can connect to a host with ssh but not with sshfs. At least not on one computer. Another works fine with both.
[16:08] <mint_> EriC^^: sigh ( no root file system is defined, please correct this from the partition menu ); sorry im newbie lol!
[16:09] <ikonia> mint_: you're not trying to do this from a mint lived are you ?
[16:10] <mint_> ikonia: i am.
[16:10] <ikonia> mint_: so you're trying to install ubuntu from a mint CD ?
[16:10] <cfhowlett> !
[16:10] <ikonia> or am I reading this wrong ?
[16:11] <mint_> ikonia: nah, im trying to install mint hehe; i was redirected to #ubuntu, they said you folks would know :s
[16:11] <cfhowlett> mint_, they lied.  mint is not supported here.
[16:11] <cfhowlett> !mint | mint_
[16:12] <mint_> thank you for the information /sigh ehhe
[16:12] <Scunizi> My fstab line for root might be in question.. it looks like this.. UUID=blablabla / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 ... is this the way it should be?
[16:14] <EriC^^> mint_: you need to create a root partition, ext4 and set the mountpoint to "/" , also a swap partition as large as your ram if you want swap/hibernation
[16:14] <icholy> I'm on 15.04 and iptables isn't working for me.
[16:15] <icholy> iptables v1.4.21: can't initialize iptables table `tcp': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[16:15] <icholy> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
[16:16] <icholy> have iptables been disabled?
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> icholy  what's the outcome of   sudo ufw status
[16:17] <icholy> MonkeyDust: inactive
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> icholy  try   sudo ufw enable
[16:19] <icholy> MonkeyDust: still same output from iptables
[16:19] <icholy> MonkeyDust: also, I don't want the firewall enabled
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> icholy  still inactive? that's odd ... install gufw and launch it
[16:20] <DanOpi> Hey guys I was hoping to get some help with Mint.  I know this is an Ubuntu channel but every Mint channel is dead
[16:20] <icholy> MonkeyDust: no, `ufw status` stays active, but I still get the error when trying to run iptables
[16:20] <ikonia> DanOpi: use the mint channel on spotchat
[16:20] <ikonia> sorry
[16:20] <cfhowlett> DanOpi, sorry.  no mint support here.
[16:20] <cfhowlett> !mint | DanOpi
[16:20] <DanOpi> No ones there.  Shoot
[16:21] <DanOpi> thanks anyway
[16:21] <Xnet> anyone know which chat ferum i should go for cyber security
[16:21] <ikonia> Xnet: nothing to do with this channel
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> icholy  i guess you have a faulty iptables rule, use gufw to check or delete that rule
[16:22] <Xnet> any help
[16:22] <ikonia> Xnet: it's nothing to do with this channel, so no
[16:22] <cfhowlett> Xnet, asked and answered.  no we don't know.  ask elsewhere
[16:22] <bazhang> ##security Xnet
[16:23] <Xnet> yes
[16:23] <bazhang> !alis | Xnet
[16:23] <Xnet> do you know
[16:23] <bazhang> Xnet, its a channel, join it
[16:23] <Xnet> ok
[16:23] <bazhang>  /join ##security
[16:24] <Marenz> Greetings
[16:25] <Marenz> I am in a terminal on my (graphical X) desktop. When I try to start a GUI program, I get  > xclock  ->   No protocol specified \nError: Can't open display: :0.0
[16:25] <Marenz> (In this example I used xclock)
[16:26] <ikonia> Marenz: xhost +
[16:26] <ikonia> Marenz: or set your DISPLAY variable correct
[16:26] <Marenz> display is :0.0
[16:26] <Marenz> which I would expect my x server to be..
[16:27] <Marenz> xhost + gives the same error
[16:27] <DanOpi> I have a new computer.  No previous installations on it.  Just built it.  Just installed Ubuntu on my SSD and I also have a HDD.  But it won't let me open my HDD
[16:27] <Armadillos> Has anyone seen this issue:  When logging into my system with the nvidia drivers installed, I get a black screen at the login prompt.  I can still log in, just can't see anything.  If I change back to the noveau drivers, I can see the login screen?
[16:28] <reisio> the issue of people using clearly inferior drivers for unknown reasons, or...?
[16:32] <cfhowlett> DanOpi, already told you; no mint support here
[16:34] <Marenz> any other idaes why I can't run programs from my terminal, getting  No protocol specified \nError: Can't open display: :0.0
[16:34] <Marenz> I don't even know how to analyse this :/
[16:34] <pavs> Merenz: are you connected remotely?
[16:34] <Marenz> no it's a normal urxvt terminal in my desktop
[16:34] <Marenz> started in my desktop
[16:35] <Marenz> all local
[16:35] <Marenz> and I think it worked just a few minutes ago
[16:35] <Marenz> even my window manager can't create new windows Oo
[16:36] <Marenz> very odd
[16:36] <pavs> odd indeed
[16:37] <pavs> is it a windowed progra?
[16:37] <ikonia> Marenz: have you used sudo
[16:37] <pavs> *program
[16:37] <Marenz> I have
[16:37] <Marenz> like, in some terminal I certainly did "sudo su" at some ponit to install some stuff
[16:37] <ikonia> right - what was the sudo command you used
[16:37] <ikonia> there you go
[16:37] <ikonia> sudo su will not work
[16:37] <pavs> lol
[16:37] <ikonia> that is not the right thing to do
[16:37] <ikonia> exit out of that shell
[16:37] <ikonia> and it will start working
[16:37] <Marenz> well.. it gave me a shell to work with in that sense it did work
[16:38] <ikonia> no - it didn't work
[16:38] <Marenz> ok
[16:38] <ikonia> it gave you a bad shell that can cause problems
[16:38] <Marenz> shell closed
[16:38] <Marenz> including terminal
[16:38] <Marenz> problem persists so far
[16:39] <ikonia> Marenz: open a new terminal
[16:39] <ikonia> and type 'id"
[16:39] <ikonia> oops
[16:39] <Marenz> can't
[16:39] <ikonia> 'id'
[16:39] <ikonia> you can't open a terminal ?
[16:39] <ikonia> why not
[16:39] <Marenz> told you, even the window manager can't open new windows
[16:39] <Marenz> same problem I guess.
[16:39] <Marenz> i still have one non-root terminal open
[16:39] <pavs> what did you install remove recently?
[16:40] <jeffreylevesque> trying to add ssh-key (private) - https://bpaste.net/show/41ba7a6382a0, but i get "/bin/sh: 1: cannot create /root/.ssh/id_rsa: Directory nonexistent"
[16:40] <ikonia> Marenz: is this a desktop ?
[16:40] <Marenz> this is a desktop. I am typing in xchat right now on that computer
[16:40] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: it shouldn't be in /root - that is for the root user
[16:40] <ikonia> Marenz: reboot your desktop
[16:40] <Marenz> i installed a few things, mysql serevr, openvpn, qbittorrent
[16:40] <ikonia> just reset your x env
[16:40] <pavs> year restart to see if it fixes it
[16:40] <Marenz> I try logging out/in
[16:40] <Marenz> then I try restart
[16:40] <Marenz> brb
[16:41] <jeffreylevesque> ikonia: i thought i did `sudo cat > ~/.ssh/id_rsa <<- EOM`, which should be the logged in user?
[16:41] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: that means you're root - which you should not be
[16:41] <jeffreylevesque> ikonia: `cat > ~/.ssh/id_rsa <<- EOM` does the same thing :(
[16:41] <Marenz> well, A re-login did fix it
[16:41] <jeffreylevesque> how do i run as not root
[16:41] <Marenz> but I wonder what caused it in the first place and how to avoid it
[16:42] <Marenz> you mentioned my sudo su is bad.. how should I aquire a root shell then?
[16:42] <mentazoom> i'm trying to expand my disk via GParted, not understanding how. Can anyone help?
[16:42] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque:show me the output of 'id' please
[16:42] <Pici> jeffreylevesque: also, you really really shouldn't have pasted your private key into a pastebin.
[16:42] <ikonia> win 14
[16:42] <Marenz> oh, I have an idea
[16:42] <Marenz> I changed my hostname
[16:43] <jeffreylevesque> Pici: i'm providing that private key as github deploy key
[16:43] <jeffreylevesque> it has only read access permission
[16:43] <jeffreylevesque> it's for my travis integration
[16:44] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: please show me the output of the command 'id'
[16:44] <jeffreylevesque> ikonia: https://travis-ci.org/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/builds/81046075
[16:44] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: I don't want a ci output
[16:44] <pavs> Marenz: it could be a possibility, glad it got fixed.
[16:44] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: I just want the output of the command 'id'
[16:44] <Marenz> thanks for the help!
[16:44] <pavs> ec
[16:44] <jeffreylevesque> ikonia: ok, i will add and have travis rerun, one second
[16:44] <pavs> wc
[16:44] <Pici> jeffreylevesque: which user's .ssh/id_rsa file are you trying to modify?
[16:44] <jeffreylevesque> ikonia: just the command `id`?
[16:44] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: what has this got to do with travis ?
[16:45] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: how are you adding a key
[16:45] <jeffreylevesque> the travis user that's spinning up the docker container
[16:45] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: how does this fit into ubuntu ?
[16:46] <jeffreylevesque> i'm running ubuntu 14.04 in my docker container
[16:46] <jeffreylevesque> so i'm running these commands in ubuntu, within the docker container, that travis is implementing
[16:46] <mentazoom> Can I resize my current partition with GParted while im on the OS or is Live CD must?
[16:46] <ikonia> mentazoom: livecd
[16:46] <mentazoom> dam
[16:46] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: so the error you get is "no such file" because the /root/.ssh directory doesn't exist
[16:47] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: get travis to not execute the key add - as root
[16:47] <ikonia> or create the directory (bad idea)
[16:51] <jeffreylevesque> ikonia: when i run `id`, i get "uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)"
[16:52] <jeffreylevesque> the docker container is used for unit testing, then i think blown away
[16:52] <linocisco> hi
[16:52] <jeffreylevesque> so maybe running as root is ok for this case
[16:52] <linocisco> how to rename a file?
[16:52] <Pici> linocisco: mv old new
[16:52] <linocisco> shortcut to rename a file or folder on desktop
[16:53] <linocisco> F2 on windows
[16:53] <linocisco> but what is used for ubuntu?
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> linocisco  F2, too
[16:53] <Pici> linocisco: does F2 not work?
[17:05] <TheLourie10> Hello
[17:17] <manizc> i'm in live ubuntu now and trying to expand partition for ubuntu, not understanding much here, can anyone help_
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> manizc  are you using gparted?
[17:18] <manizc> MonkeyDust: Yes, I just want to my ubuntu take whole disk place
[17:18] <manizc> I have few other useless partitions
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> manizc  backup... delete all partitions... install ubuntu... put backup back
[17:20] <manizc> MonkeyDust: Do I have to uninstall my Ubuntu partition to expand_
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> manizc  not uninstall... backup and delete
[17:20] <linocisco> hi
[17:21] <linocisco> font my skype is not larger yet
[17:21] <manizc> MonkeyDust: Isnt that same as uninstalling?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> manizc  yes, if you want to call it that
[17:21] <linocisco> font on my skype can't be larger
[17:21] <manizc> MonkeyDust: Isnt there other way?
[17:22] <manizc> I thought you could just expand if you use live ubuntu
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> manizc  technically yes, without dataloss... i tried it, but it took several hours
[17:23] <manizc> MonkeyDust: How can I take backup
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> manizc  there are several ways, i use rsync
[17:24] <manizc> I only have 16GB pen drive, so I doubt I can backup on that..
[17:26] <linocisco> what is the best download manager on ubuntu?
[17:26] <ikonia> there isn't a best
[17:26] <ikonia> try them - see what you like
[17:26] <ikonia> research them see which one looks like it will fit your needs
[17:28] <manizc> MonkeyDust: cant i just expand over the unallocated partition_
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> manizc  like i said, yes, but that can take several hours
[17:29] <manizc> MonkeyDust: That is okey, how can I do it_
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> manizc  are they all primary?
[17:30] <manizc> MonkeyDust: http://imgur.com/yxN6e2t
[17:31] <w30> How do I get the 32bit libs for 15.04?
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> manizc  frankly, i'd prefer you find a way to backup first, before you start changing partitons, I don't want to be responsible if anything goes wrong
[17:34] <manizc> MonkeyDust: I understand, there is not anything valuable which is not backuped
[17:37] <manizc> MonkeyDust: I dont understand why i can not right click and click on resize like all tutorials
[17:38] <thevaliantx> i have installed a minecraft server on Ubuntu 15.  when the server is running i can see (using a website) that port 25565 is closed.  so i am unable to connect to 'localhost'.  how can i fix this?
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> manizc  because you want merge a primary paprtitions with an extended one, that cannot be done
[17:40] <chaos7theory> thevaliantx: It could be ufw and/or your router / modem setup.
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> manizc  i'm gonna stop here, no further advice, hope you find a way to do it
[17:43] <chaos7theory> So what's the big deal about local time vs. UTC?
[17:43] <manizc> MonkeyDust: Last thing please, if I do this what wil lhappen? http://imgur.com/H8QJwbN
[17:46] <aespinoza> 93!
[17:46] <maxeric93> Hello guys, I have a quick question for you if someone is available right now
[17:47] <maxeric93> I'm running ubuntu with chronos on a ChromeOS machine and I just want to know if Linux keeps track of the IRC history when I am on my ChromeOS desktop
[17:47] <maxeric93> So if I send you a screenshot of what I have right now can someone tell me if Linux missed something ?
[17:47] <Batholith> Guys, can you explain what's happening here? http://pastebin.com/dQTHAxFX
[17:48] <navs> hey is there some odd behavior with 14.04 and openssh trying to connect to a non existant host
[17:49] <navs> i get 'ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host' instead of the expected 'ssh: Could not resolve hostname sksksks: Name or service not known'
[17:49] <navs> its not a big deal just odd
[17:50] <tumbler> Batholith, two libraries libquazip.so and libQt5Core.so don t exist
[17:51] <thevaliantx> chaos7theory, what i dont' understand is how the client and server are on the same machine.  i can see that being a problem if the client was another computer in the house.
[17:51] <thevaliantx> chaos7theory,  i think i have heard of ufw, is it easy to troubleshoot?
[17:51] <Batholith> tumbler: They do, in the very directory the executable is in.
[17:51] <chaos7theory> thevaliantx: Ubuntu comes with a GUI frontend called Gufw to mess with.
[17:52] <Batholith> tumbler: Line 19 and 14
[17:53] <tumbler> Batholith, you are right ... i noticed later ... maybe are used by something else
[17:53] <thevaliantx> chaos7theory, i'll check it out now ... thanks
[17:54] <Batholith> Okay, FML. tumbler, I downloaded the 64-bit version of the software and started the script and now it works.
[17:54] <tumbler> well done ... that's fun
[17:56] <Batholith> And now I need to get my microphone to work on Ubuntu.
[17:57] <Batholith> Sheesus, I wish I was on Windows.
[17:58] <navs> noone needs a microphone
[17:58] <Batholith> You must've never played games.
[17:59] <navs> i just call people on 3 way on my cell
[17:59] <navs> its worth it to stick it to the big guys and use a commie os
[17:59] <Batholith> Fuck this, I'm gonna try to see if I get Windows fixed. Doing anything on Ubuntu is just a lot of trouble with a chance to break things.
[18:00] <navs> just run a proper os on your host and lunix in a vm for work like all the sane people
[18:00] <hizz> Batholith, if you aren't getting microphone visible, you might ensure you have pulseaudio installed
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> Batholith  struggling with games?
[18:00] <hizz> sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[18:01] <w30> Batholith, nah... i you break Linux just go get a new one. They are free.
[18:01] <navs> dont listen to them batholith you were on the right track
[18:11] <pawelplsi> sas
[18:12] <ioria> ioria21972
[18:14] <TomyWork> network-manager seems to start a dnsmasq for me. how can i make that listen on 127.0.0.1 in addition to 127.0.1.1?
[18:26] <chandan_> Is Btrfs a supported filesystem (against  a tech preview) for ubuntu 14.04?
[18:33] <TomyWork> figured it out: echo 'listen-address=127.0.0.1' > /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d/99listen-127.0.0.1 && service network-manager stop && pkill dnsmasq && service network-manager start
[18:33] <TomyWork> basically
[18:42] <AmnesiaHaze> I've set up my .bashrc so that, when I connect with telnet, it runs an application. It's working great. I would like the telnet session to disconnect when the user closes the app.
[18:43] <AmnesiaHaze> Any thoughts would be great. I'm real new.
[18:43] <SuperLag> Does Ubuntu support kickstart?
[18:50] <regedit> so xorg-edgers removed/cancelled the nvidia 355 drivers??
[18:51] <regedit> TJ-: hey
[18:51] <TJ-> Evening regedit
[18:51] <liquidmetal> Any opencv folks here? How do I parallelize some OpenCV code?
[18:51] <regedit> TJ-: so edgers seem to have removed all of their nvidia drivers??
[18:52] <regedit> TJ-: http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/n/
[18:55] <TJ-> regedit: We have a dedicated GPU drivers PPA now: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:55] <regedit> TJ-: well well what have we here :) this is nice!
[18:56] <TJ-> regedit: It beats getting Xorg breakages when all you need is the latest GPU driver
[18:56] <regedit> TJ-: does that mean i can sudo apt-get them now, instead of manually selecting specific packages with our little script?
[18:56] <TJ-> regedit: Correct :)
[18:56] <regedit> nice!
[18:57] <TJ-> regedit: the kind of PPA I don't mind putting me out of a job :p
[18:57] <regedit> hehe
[18:57] <regedit> trying it out now..
[18:58] <OneM_Industries> Anyone know some tips for reducing memory usage? I am usually pushing 5GB of RAM used with almost nothing open.
[18:59] <w30>  /part
[18:59] <navs> yea irc will do that
[19:00] <BluesKaj> OneM_Industries, run htop to see what's using up your cpu
[19:00] <OneM_Industries> Actually, my IRC app is only eating 30MB of RAM.
[19:00] <OneM_Industries> My CPU is fine, it is RAM that is the issue.
[19:01] <BluesKaj> oops:-)
[19:01] <OneM_Industries> That is ok. :)
[19:01] <BluesKaj> it's usually cpu loads that I have iswsues with
[19:01] <Volund> haaalp
[19:02] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, I just upgraded my CPU, so CPU load is no issue.
[19:03] <BluesKaj> OneM_Industries, try system monitor , it gives more info
[19:03] <tumbler> OneM_Industries, tray out to run a memory test
[19:03] <OneM_Industries> Yep, I have that running.
[19:04] <AvatarA> it's probably just the file buffers/cache
[19:04] <navs> yea unused ram is inefficient
[19:04] <navs> memory manager will trash the cache if you need it for a process
[19:05] <OneM_Industries> Top 3 are Firefox, with 600MB RAM used, compiz with 324MB used, and zeitgeist-fts.
[19:05] <navs> are you swapping ?
[19:05] <navs> browsers are gonna use a shit ton of memory
[19:05] <Fodd> Hey guys. i run a ubuntu server, i installed an ssh key on it. I've already got an SSH key installed on my unbuntu computer. however, i want to remove the old key and add the new key. how do i do this?
[19:06] <navs> for caching its not really a problem unless you start swapping hard
[19:06] <AvatarA> and chrome will use shitton*4
[19:06] <OneM_Industries> Swap is at 284KB memory.
[19:06] <bendangelo> ssh-keygen? It'll overwrite it
[19:06] <navs> yea so you're good onem
[19:06] <OneM_Industries> I don't usually use chrome.
[19:06] <Volund> I have a problem. Cannot boot into my Kubuntu desktop. I was spending all of last night rearranging my NTFS hard drives, chose to switch video drivers, and was doing  few other things. I'm booting into recovery mode but I don't exactly know how to troubleshoot what's wrong. One thing I did think of was checking /etc/fstab because my /dev/sdc2 entry was now invalid due to some gparted action,...
[19:06] <navs> its best to use all the ram
[19:06] <Volund> ...but changing that hasn't helped...
[19:06] <OneM_Industries> Ok then! Thank you!
 i've got the private key of my server which i need to connect too?
[19:06] <navs> what good does it do sitting there unmapped when it could retain something in cache and speed up next load
[19:07] <Volund> where do I start? @_@
[19:07]  * Volund has never troubleshooted Linux before
[19:07] <TJ-> !linuxatemyram OneM_Industries
[19:07] <navs> wtf is a kubuntu
[19:07] <rightnow|work> I installed samba on my ubuntu server 15.04. But when i browse from windows \\192.168.0.2 it only comes up a share called "share" not my "www" folder that i typed into the config. This "share" share is not reachable with my user+password, and its not in the config?
[19:08] <navs> did you restart smbd and nmbd
[19:08] <rightnow|work> yes
[19:08] <navs> also wtf is a kubuntu
[19:08] <rightnow|work> also restarted the server
[19:08] <Volund> it's Ubuntu with KDE
[19:08] <navs> did you edit the correct conf file
[19:08] <BluesKaj> navs, are you serious?
[19:08] <navs> WHAT IS A KUBUNTU
[19:09] <TJ-> OneM_Industries: try again... have you seen http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[19:09] <rightnow|work> edited /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:09] <BluesKaj> ubuntu with KDE desktop
[19:09] <Volund> hello?
[19:09] <yeungkachun> Can I delete all unity-webapps ?
[19:09] <curiousx> OneM_Industries: https://code.google.com/p/memtop/downloads/detail?name=memtop-1.0.0.py  pic: http://i.stack.imgur.com/XPKhm.png  source:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/142505/is-there-an-application-that-can-show-memory-usage-in-a-similar-manner-to-top
[19:09] <regedit> navs: it's a carrot
[19:09] <navs> why is that its own name
[19:09] <navs> whats ubuntu with gnome
[19:09] <navs> or flux
[19:09] <navs> FUbuntu
[19:09] <webera> Volund, to help we would need any information on what isn't working.
[19:09] <kidx> Hello can I broadcast my HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition with this and if so how do I go about doing so I am looking to get off of windows.
[19:09] <Volund> webera: How do I retrieve that info-- oh hey it's working now????
[19:10] <rightnow|work> my config says at the bottom: [share] comment = www    path = /src/www    is thats why windows says "share" ?
[19:10] <Volund> might be working, not sure
[19:10] <navs> oh yea
[19:10] <kidx> I would like to use obs with my HD PVR 2
[19:10] <navs> that'd be it
[19:10] <Volund> YAY it booted
[19:10] <Volund> I have no idea what just happened.
[19:10] <curiousx> !flavours
[19:10] <navs> lol you ubuntu guys are crazy
[19:10] <curiousx> navs: read ---^
[19:10] <navs> why
[19:11] <kidx> has anyone used a HD PVR 2 on linbux?
[19:11] <regedit> !Mythbuntu
[19:11] <webera> Who is a ubuntu guy?
[19:11] <navs> noone apparently
[19:11] <kidx> well ubuntu just wondering
[19:11] <BluesKaj> what's HDPVR2?
[19:11] <navs> a capture card bro
[19:11] <kidx> Happauge HD PVR 2
[19:11] <Volund> webera: Previously, I was just getting a glowing Kubuntu logo that stayed there. I used the install media to run a Live environment and changed /etc/fstab but rebooting resulted in the same thing. However, I just used Recovery Mode and went with 'normal boot' from the recovery menu and miraculously it worked...
[19:11] <BluesKaj> kidx,^'
[19:11] <navs> do you even read
[19:11] <yeungkachun> Can I delete unity-webapps-*
[19:12] <navs> yeungkachun: be careful adding or removing packages, it might change the name of your distro
[19:12] <BluesKaj> kidx, yes that pvr is linux compatible
[19:12] <kidx> I do read and have not been answered yet lol
[19:12] <kidx> ok Blue
[19:12] <rutarte> hi all
[19:12] <navs> kidx: i wasnt talking to you sorry
[19:12] <LexLuthor> Hi All
[19:13] <kidx> ok
[19:13] <kidx> Np
[19:13] <webera> Volund, perfect.
[19:13] <kidx> Blue do you know if I can broadcast that live to hitbox?
[19:13] <Volund> webera: It's GOOD but since I can't explain what happened I'm still rather jumpy about the whole thing.
[19:13] <kidx> can I use it with VLC and then windowsc;pa VLC?
[19:13] <kidx> window capture sorry
[19:14] <rutarte> anyone knows a program with a list of ssh clients?
[19:14] <LexLuthor> what are the best specifications for a PC to run Ubuntu?
[19:14] <webera> Volund, if you stuck at boot time you can just press Escape to see the boot messages
[19:14] <webera> Just for the next time
[19:14] <Volund> webera: THANK YOU
[19:14] <Volund> that would've been VERY helpful.
[19:14] <Fodd> bendangelo: how do i copy my new one to connect to a remote server?
[19:14] <Fodd> I've got the ppk file
[19:14] <rutarte> a terminal with a panel with a list of possible sessions
[19:14] <Volund> I'm totally new to this
[19:15] <Volund> I'm great at troubleshooting Windows but I have nothing but hunches and theories when it comes to Linux.
[19:15] <Volund> D:
[19:15] <kidx> I am thinking of going to Ubuntu but if I cant broadcast live no oint but if I can broadcast my Original xbox thaen I am gona go to ubuntu for sure.
[19:15] <BluesKaj> kidx, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/583754
[19:16] <Volund> now let's see if I can get steam running this time.
[19:16] <TJ-> Volund: pro tip: Linux logs almost everything. Check out the files in /var/log/. For boot-time dmesg, kern.log, and syslog would be your main targets.
[19:16] <kidx> i ahve looked up everything hopefully you guys are more experieced than me and know this stuff.
[19:16] <BluesKaj> kidx, read above
[19:17] <kidx> Blue its only for HDMI
[19:17] <kidx> thats useless
[19:17] <LexLuthor> what are the best specifications for a PC to run Ubuntu?
[19:18] <Volund> one sec
[19:19] <BluesKaj> kidx,  bummer
[19:19] <TJ-> kidx: VLC can stream video/audio over RTSP/RTP/MMS
[19:19] <kidx> only if I could get the HD PVR 2 to show up in VLC
[19:19] <volund> yoooo
[19:19] <kidx> the issue is I dont know what device it is
[19:19] <TJ-> kidx: Driver support for many capture devices is patchy
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> !specs | LexLuthor
[19:20] <Volund> I wish it wouldn't always lowercase my name. oh well I'll figure that out
[19:20] <kidx> what you mean patchy
[19:20]  * Volund is now on his Linuxbox yay
[19:20] <kidx> patchable
[19:20] <BluesKaj> kidx, it should as a source
[19:20] <kidx> and is that to the kernel?
[19:20] <TJ-> kidx: The first step is to identify the device and its PCI Vendor:Product ID, using "lspci -nn" in a terminal
[19:20] <kidx> I went to windows casue of this
[19:20] <kidx> could not get it to come in as a video device
[19:20] <TJ-> kidx: patchy == many devices have only partial or no drivers - manufacturers don't support Linux
[19:21] <LexLuthor> MonkeyDust, ubottu I want to put up a new machine and I am planning to run ubuntu in it and I am looking for which specifications to pick.
[19:21] <kidx> gona try Ubuntu Studio
[19:21] <kidx> hope that works with everything
[19:22] <TJ-> kidx: 'Studio' has no additional drivers for hardware; it is just a distro with packages tailored for editing/producing multimedia
[19:22] <kidx> so what is reconmended
[19:22] <kidx> regular ubuntu
[19:23] <TJ-> kidx: If there is no Linux driver for the device it can't be used
[19:23] <kidx> what do you reconmend
[19:23] <kidx> i am curious about linux mint
[19:23] <kidx> and stuff
[19:24] <webera> kidx, ubuntu, mint, debian, studio is al just linux and debian based
[19:24] <kidx> yea but each distro has better driver support
[19:24] <kidx> its all about testing
[19:24] <kidx> yup
[19:25] <kidx> trial and error
[19:25] <TJ-> kidx: No. All distros have the same drivers
[19:25] <kidx> you just said studio is missing hardware?
[19:25] <TJ-> kidx: More recent Linux kernels often have support for more (recent) devices, and better support for older devices
[19:25] <webera> kidx, it's just about packaging and documentation
[19:26] <kidx> I dont know ill look around thanks guys laters
[19:27] <TJ-> kidx: You misread. I said 'Studio' has no additional drivers for hardware. Linux kernel includes the hardware drivers. The only exceptions are proprietary drivers such as Nvidia, ATI fglrx, a few Wifi (Ralink) and specialist devices
[19:32] <sep_alicia> Any have experience with reverse ssh? I can't seem to get it to work
[19:36] <teward> sep_alicia: 'reverse' ssh?
[19:36] <ki7rw> even though i installed an 802.11ac card in my laptop, iwconfig output shows IEEE 802.11abgn. why isn't it listed as 802.11ac?
[19:37] <ki7rw> http://pastebin.com/ReSmb1rP
[19:41] <TJ-> sep_alicia: what have you tried so far?
[19:43] <TJ-> ki7rw: probably iwconfig hasn't been 'taught' about .ac modes yet. What Ubuntu release is it ?
[19:44] <basiclaser> can i resize encrypted ubuntu partition or change location for ubuntu updates? updates want to install to /boot which is only 300mb, not the encrypted partition which is the main partition with 300gb
[19:44] <ki7rw> 14.04
[19:45] <TJ-> !info wireless-tools trusty
[19:46] <IanHulett> Is 15.04 the most recent version?
[19:48] <TJ-> IanHulett: Yes; 15.10 is still in development
[19:48] <IanHulett> Ah.
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> IanHulett  and 16.04 LTS in april
[19:48] <IanHulett> When is 15.10 being released?
[19:49] <TJ-> 10th month :)
[19:49] <ki7rw> i guess i have the latest wireless-tools for 14.04 - maybe the wrong driver loaded or the vendor lied about the boards capabilities?
[19:49] <IanHulett> So, next month?
[19:49] <TJ-> ki7rw: No, it is simply that wireless-tools is old... pre-dates 802.11ac
[19:50] <ki7rw> is there something newer and/or better?
[19:51] <IanHulett> ki7rw: Get ubuntu 15.04... it's better.
[19:51] <IanHulett> I just upgraded from 14.04.
[20:00] <sep_alicia> TJ-: To setup up reverse ssh, do I need to be running sshd on both the client and server?
[20:03] <samthewildone> currently I have python 2.7.9, is there a way to get to version 3.2 without breaking the system ?
[20:03] <TJ-> ki7rw: sep_alicia No. The point is that the local (client) connects as usual to the sshd, then the server sets up a listening port and forwards all packets back to the client, which then forwards them to the *local* port (which must have some service listening)
[20:04] <TJ-> ki7rw: oops, too many nicknames there, sorry
[20:06] <Fodd> Right, i managed to clean all of my old keys out, added the new ssh key, sadly i still cannot connect to my remote server.
[20:10] <OneM_Industries> TJ-: Thank you. I am not really that worried, as I have 16GB total RAM, but I was wondering why 5GB of it was disappearing with almost nothing open, whereas a couple of months ago, I was idling at 3GB used.
[20:11] <samthewildone> !privateppa
[20:11] <TJ-> OneM_Industries: if it is claimed by applications you can't identify, that's time to worry, but if 'free' shows most of it in caches/buffers that's great.. means a faster file-system
[20:12] <samthewildone> how do I add private ppas ?
[20:12] <TJ-> !ppa | samthewildone
[20:13] <OneM_Industries> TJ-: Most of it is used by applications I cannot identify, which is why I am wondering.
[20:16] <OneM_Industries> http://pastebin.com/kXfudSxn
[20:16] <OneM_Industries> ^ Output of free -m
[20:16] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: thats not a problem ?
[20:17] <ikonia> loads of free ram, loads of cache
[20:17] <isene> http://isene.me/2015/09/18/xtreme/
[20:18] <OneM_Industries> Ok, the main issue is that I have no clue what half the applications using RAM are.
[20:18] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: what's your actualy problem ?
[20:19] <TJ-> OneM_Industries: that looks fine to me, linuxatemyram explains how to read the output of 'free'
[20:19] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
[20:19] <OneM_Industries> I may just be having a stupid moment.
[20:19] <sep_alicia> TJ-: Would you be able to help me test me reverse sshd, to see if you can get a login prompt?
[20:20] <ikonia> reverse sshd ?
[20:20] <sep_alicia> ikonia: To setup up reverse ssh, do I need to be running sshd on both the client and server?
[20:21] <ikonia> what is a reverse ssh ?
[20:21] <EriC^^> sep_alicia: why do you wanna use reverse ssh?
[20:21] <sep_alicia> ikonia: ok, nevermind
[20:22] <ikonia> errr ?
[20:22] <Pici> Well, theres reverse ssh tunneling..
[20:22] <sep_alicia> EriC^^: Same reason everybody else uses reverse ssh. Lack of control over the firewall.
[20:22] <ikonia> so you're trying to bypass someones firewall
[20:24] <w30> I am trying to install a program, xv, and I need and can't find libtiff4. Is there any way around that?
[20:24] <ikonia> w30: how are you trying to install it?
[20:25] <w30> dpkg
[20:25] <TJ-> sep_alicia: what do you mean by log-in prompt? Are you directing the inbound connection to a the login daemon?
[20:25] <w30> ikonia, dpkg
[20:25] <ikonia> w30: what repo
[20:26] <sep_alicia> TJ-: I tried connecting into the server from another machine, but the connection just times out
[20:26] <w30> ikonia, not in a repo that I know of.
[20:26] <ikonia> so where are you getting it ?
[20:27] <sep_alicia> TJ-: I don't know if the ssh server is working correctly or not, so I'm requesting help in testing it
[20:27] <ikonia> if you can't connect to it from an external hose, either a.) it's not running b.) soething is blocking it
[20:27] <EriC^^> sep_alicia: can you telnet to port 22?
[20:27] <ikonia> someone else won't prove/disaprove that
[20:27] <w30> ikonia, 5 years ago, I don't remember where I got the .deb
[20:28] <ikonia> w30: use apt rather than dpkg
[20:28] <ikonia> apt will resolve deps if they are available
[20:28] <ikonia> if the deps aren't available - then there is your answer
[20:28] <sep_alicia> TJ-: The server works correctly when connecting locally, from the server to itself: ssh localhost -p 6622
[20:29] <ikonia> if you are trying to get around a firewall, it stands to reason that a good network admin would block you from doing that
[20:29] <w30> ikonia, the deps are not available officially anywhere.
[20:29] <sep_alicia> TJ-: But the server is behind NAT, so I'm looking for help testing the reverse ssh
[20:30] <TJ-> sep_alicia: The best way to diagnose the connection is to increase verbose logging on the server, and on the client ends, and check the logs
[20:30] <ikonia> w30: there you go then
[20:31] <w30> ikonia, is there any hammer I can use on it?
[20:32] <TJ-> !info libtiff4 precise | w30
[20:32] <sep_alicia> TJ-: The server may have a problem. But The server may not have any problems, which is why I would like someone to help me test it.
[20:32] <ikonia> sep_alicia: just test it from any box on the net
[20:32] <ikonia> sep_alicia: spin up an aws box
[20:33] <w30> TJ-, what do I do with that info?
[20:34] <ikonia> w30: there is the package you want
[20:34] <Pici> w30: it sounds like it unmaintained, its very unlikely you'll get it to work on modern Linuxes.
[20:35] <sep_alicia> ikonia: So instead of someone taking 5 minutes to help me out, your advice is go spend a couple hours learning how to use aws and setup a virtual machine to test this out...  Hmm, yeah. I appreciate your help
[20:35] <ikonia> sep_alicia: yes,
[20:35] <ikonia> as people are not keen to connect to random boxes, more so when you're trying to bypass someones firewall
[20:36] <w30> Pici, it works on my xubuntu 15.04 which has been drug through several up grades
[20:36] <ikonia> w30: where did you get the deps for 15.04 ?
[20:38] <w30> ikonia, I searched xubuntu for libtiff4 and I don't have the lib but xv works, go figure?
[20:38] <ikonia> w30: I don't understand - you're saying you can't find the library but it's working ?
[20:38] <ikonia> w30: what's the actual problem ?
[20:39] <w30> ikonia, I used getlibs back in the xubuntu install
[20:39] <Pici> w30: Well, the last stable release was in 1994, theres another patched version out there last updated in 2009 that I can find, but I'd be surprised if you could get it working outside of building it from source yourself.
[20:39] <sep_alicia> TJ-: In the debian room, someone told me that you need to be running sshd on both client and server for reverse ssh to work. I really have no idea. I never read about this in the online guides to reverse ssh
[20:40] <w30> Pici, this program parallels Model T development
[20:41] <ikonia> sep_alicia: what OS are you doing this on debian or ubuntu ?
[20:41] <hony> ;
[20:41] <TJ-> sep_alicia: If you've configured the local ssh client end to forward to the local sshd server listening port, that should be correct (assuming the local sshd server is listening on localhost)
[20:41] <hony> #hardware
[20:42] <sep_alicia> TJ-: gotcha
[20:42] <auronandace> hony: nearly got it, there's 2 hashes
[20:42] <ikonia> sep_alicia: what OS are you doing this on debian or ubuntu ?
[20:42] <sep_alicia> TJ-: Thanks for the help
 :sorry ?
[20:43] <hony> <auronandace ; why cant i join #hardware ?
[20:43] <auronandace> hony: you typed #hardware, the channel is ##hardware
[20:44] <hony> Cannot send to channel: ##hardware
[20:44] <Pici> !register | hony
[20:44] <sep_alicia> TJ-: Sorry I had to block ikonia a while ago. They were helping me way too much. I'd probably solve as many as one tasks a year with the awesome advice. Anyway, I appreciate everything. You're genuinely are awesome. Hope to talk to you again later :)
[20:44] <Volund> okay peoples.
[20:44] <auronandace> hony: some channels require a registered and identified nick
[20:44] <Volund> need a bit of info.
[20:46] <hony>  /nick goraby
[20:47] <hony> can anyone see i typed my nick ?
[20:47] <Volund> I have an internal drive that's just one giant ext4 partition. I'm going to want to have this permanently mounted (which I can accomplish with fstab, I know) but it's apparently 'owned' by root and my normal user has no access. for a folder I'd know what to do. But a whole drive, uh
[20:47] <Volund> how do I do this?
[20:48] <Pici> hony: If you're having trouble registering, please ask in #freenode (/join #freenode)
[20:48] <snoozlebug> Hello World!
[20:49] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone, is WUBI still being developed? I see that it hasn't been updated since 23-Aug-2013 (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/wubi/) unless I'm missing something.
[20:50] <snoozlebug> Second try: Hello World!
[20:50] <Twigler> hi guys
[20:51] <Twigler> just installed ubuntu on virtualbox
[20:51] <Pici> snoozlebug: helloooo
[20:51] <Twigler> im new to the linux scene
[20:51] <Twigler> lol
[20:51] <auronandace> snoozlebug: everyone saw your first try
[20:51] <snoozlebug> Oh, it works! Ist my first Time with IRC, so thats why im not shure about.
[20:51] <Twigler> anyone know a good guide on how to get adjusted to ubuntu and learn its main functions and commands?
[20:51] <auronandace> Twigler: this is the right place if you are looking for help with ubutu
[20:52] <auronandace> !manual | Twigler
[20:52] <Twigler> thaks
[20:52] <Twigler> thanks
[20:52] <Twigler> oh i have to buy it?
[20:52] <jhutchins> Twigler: No.
[20:52] <cruisibesares> hey I'm trying to do some benchmarking with ethtool and around the internet i see people getting pps out of it. I'm just seeing a counter is that a version thing or a eth driver thing or am i missing a flag?
[20:53] <auronandace> snoozlebug: if you need help with irc you can go to #freenode
[20:53] <Bashing-om> !wubi | Zoohouse
[20:53] <Twigler> do any of you guys program using just the terminal
[20:53] <ratrace> Twigler: yup
[20:53] <Twigler> is it difficult to learn
[20:54] <ratrace> nope
[20:54] <ikonia> you must understand thats not really a realistic question
[20:54] <jhutchins> Twigler: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html  http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php  http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[20:54] <Twigler> lol
[20:54] <ikonia> how hard it is depends on what you want to do, your personal aptitude and work effort
[20:54] <ikonia> it's not really something this channel is here for
[20:55] <Twigler> well I am a computer engineer major, and I need to learn Linux haha
[20:55] <Zoohouse> !install
[20:55] <Zoohouse> Bashing-om: thanks
[20:55] <jhutchins> Twigler: What OSs have you worked with so far?
[20:55] <Twigler> just Windows
[20:55] <Twigler> lol
[20:55] <Abe> Hi I am trying to run Middle earth Shadow of Mordor on Linux. If I run ShadowofMorder.sh it gives me an error error while loading shared libraries: libSDL2_image-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:56] <Abe> what does that mean?
[20:56] <ikonia> Abe: normally means it's missing a 32bit library
[20:56] <ikonia> or just missing something it wants in general
[20:56] <Abe> what do I have to do to get it fixed :(
[20:57] <ikonia> install libsdl2 libraries
[20:57] <Abe> with apt-get?
[20:57] <jwbrown77> Anyone know where I might find help with preseed files?  I need to upgrade an existing install via PXE preseed, there's a specific option in the manual installer "reuse partition" that I'd like to put into the preseed and make unattended.  As seen at: http://i.imgur.com/y4NDDKU.png
[20:57] <ikonia> yup
[20:57] <jwbrown77> I can't seem to find any definitive reference for all available options in a preseed, either in Ubuntu or Debian's documentation.
[20:57] <Abe> ok thx for answering me that quickly
[20:57] <kostkon> !find libSDL2_image-2.0.so.0
[20:58] <snoozlebug> auronandace: Thanks but i dont have problems now, ist just my first try.
[20:59] <Abe> ikonia: Is it this I only find this in the repos libsdl2-image-2.0-0 - Image loading library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 2, libraries
[21:00] <Abe> ?
[21:00] <ikonia> Abe: looks good
[21:00] <Abe> thats it ok let me install that
[21:01] <Abe> ok I try again
[21:02] <jake10> hi all, i am wanting to install ubuntu on a win7 system, my 1st HD is a SSD with win7 on it and i have a 1TB storage drive too, if i have partitioned a 50 gig chunk for ubuntu, can i just install ubuntu to the 50 gig chuck and still use the rest of the 1 TB drive in win7?
[21:02] <Abe> ikonia: thank you for your help I really appreciate that. it works :D
[21:03] <ikonia> Abe: you helped yourself
[21:04] <jake10> or will i need to use the entire 1 TB drive for ubuntu only, win7 wont read it?
[21:04] <ikonia> jake10: zero problem with what you want
[21:04] <auronandace> jake10: you can partition it anyway you like, you don't have to use a whole disk for ubuntu
[21:04] <auronandace> !partition | jake10
[21:05] <Volund> !fstab
[21:05] <jake10> what i hav done is this: used win7 to format part of the 1TB drive and left the 50 GB i want to use for ubuntu as unallocated
[21:06] <jake10> was gonna let ubuntu installation format it and mount it
[21:06] <auronandace> jake10: you can do that in the installer
[21:06] <Twigler> guys
[21:06] <Twigler> would you rather use VMware over VirtualBox
[21:07] <Volund> I prefer VirtualBox
[21:07] <auronandace> !polls | Twigler
[21:07] <auronandace> Twigler: please don't hold polls here
[21:07] <jake10> but it doesnt let me click on the unallocated space only the entire drive (dev/sdb)
[21:07] <Twigler> im not really holding a poll
[21:07] <Twigler> i just do not know the difference between the two programs
[21:07] <Twigler> lol
[21:07] <jake10> can i evetually point it at the 50 gb chuck, leaving the rest of the 1 TB drive alone?
[21:08] <Twigler> if one has better performance, I would rather use that one
[21:08] <auronandace> Twigler: vbox is open source, vmware is not
[21:08] <ikonia> Twigler: it's really up to you to make up your own mind
[21:08] <ikonia> Twigler: map our your requirements and see which one meets your needs best
[21:09] <auronandace> jake10: when it comes to the partitioning stage you can select custom and partition the unallocated section for ubuntu (default is ext4)
[21:09] <adroit_machine_> hi, my computer has nvidia GPU and I need to install drivers for it, but in ubuntu driver manager it says "your computer requires no proprietry drivers". Need help
[21:10] <jake10> auron: once i finish install, will grub automatically show up when i reboot to select either win7 or ubuntu?
[21:10] <auronandace> jake10: yes, you can also select where to install grub what at the partitioning stage too
[21:10] <ikonia> adroit_machine_: it should offer you some packages
[21:11] <ikonia> adroit_machine_: it's offering to get the propritary modules it needs
[21:11] <adroit_machine_> ikonia: it says your computer needs no property drivers
[21:11] <ikonia> ooh, no
[21:11] <ikonia> is it a dual gpu, inetl/nvidia ?
[21:11] <adroit_machine_> ikonia: my display is running at 640*800 pixels
[21:11] <Bashing-om> adroit_machine_: Maybe to old or to new of a card ? what returns from terminal command: ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ' . We see about what matches the card .
[21:12] <adroit_machine_> ikonia: no, it's just an nvidia gpu
[21:12] <auronandace> adroit_machine_: can you pastebin lspci?
[21:12] <jake10> thanks, ill give it another look
[21:12] <bispo> hi
[21:12] <adroit_machine_> Bashing-om: ok, I'll pastebin it
[21:13] <bispo> hey Drone?
[21:13] <ikonia> drone is a bot
[21:13] <nug700> who was the guy last night instructing me to reinstall after I broke grub by installing windows?
[21:14] <auronandace> nug700: you don't need to reinstall, you just need to reinstall grub
[21:14] <auronandace> !grub | nug700
[21:14] <nug700> yea that's what I want to tell him
[21:15] <nug700> however windows is still not showing up in the grub options
[21:15] <nug700> how do I add it?
[21:16] <Bashing-om> nug700: Is UEFI a facor ?
[21:16] <nug700> yea it is UEFI
[21:17] <t4nk978> Which VMWare player free version is newest?
[21:17] <ikonia> the one with the biggest version number....
[21:17] <t4nk978> but they don't tell which one is free
[21:18] <t4nk978> like you can choose 12 but it's named workstation and I think that's only trial version
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> t4nk978  this is free https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/VMware-Player-7.0.0-2305329.x86_64.bundle
[21:18] <adroit_machine_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12456985/
[21:18] <t4nk978> its amazing how hard it's to find out
[21:18] <t4nk978> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_player/6_0|PLAYER-607|product_downloads
[21:18] <adroit_machine_> Bashing-om: paste for sudo ubuntu-driver-devices
[21:19] <Bashing-om> adroit_machine_: Look
[21:19] <t4nk978> The latest version 12 is not free i think
[21:19] <Bashing-om> adroit_machine_: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/12456985/ .
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> t4nk978  did you see my dropbox link
[21:19] <ikonia> t4nk978: if in doubt - use the vmware support channels/mailing list or contact vmware direct for license/price questions
[21:19] <adroit_machine_> Bashing-om: driver manager says "no properity drivers needed"
[21:20] <ikonia> adroit_machine_: pastebin lspci please
[21:21] <L3fty_222> t4nk978: there is a download link at the bottom of the page that says it is free for personal(home) use
[21:22] <Doobs> You know how audio devices normally "stop" after periods of inactivity?
[21:23] <Doobs> What's that called?
[21:23] <Doobs> Like how there will be a light static noise after a song is over, even though nothing is playing.
[21:23] <ikonia> ground loop ?
[21:24] <Doobs> ikonia: Is that what it's called?
[21:24] <ikonia> depends what you're talking about
[21:24] <ikonia> sounds like a ground loop
[21:25] <Bashing-om> adroit_machine_: ikonia :: Nvidia does recommend the 340 driver .
[21:25] <adroit_machine_> Bashing-om: ikonia: it's working now, needed a sudo-apt update
[21:25] <[n0mad]> a ground loop would be a constant sound most likely, just more noticeable when nothing is playing
[21:25] <Doobs> ikonia: But it stops usually about 5-10 seconds after audio inactivity.
[21:26] <Bashing-om> adroit_machine_: Amazing how many things an 'update' resolves . :)
[21:26] <[n0mad]> are you just hearing silence at the end of the audio? like they just turned the mic off but kept recording?
[21:27] <[n0mad]> or is play actually done, ie no more time running
[21:27] <t4nk978> MonkeyDust: Didn't see thanks, so 7 is the latest free
[21:28] <t4nk978> MonkeyDust: Why does it ask for product key, it says I can type it later but... is it free version?
[21:29] <Doobs> [n0mad]: The song is over when I hear this.
[21:29] <ikonia> t4nk978: you'll need to take this up with vmware
[21:30] <[n0mad]> Doobs: do you have cross-fading enabled?
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> t4nk978  it says: "you can do this later", or something similar
[21:30] <Doobs> [n0mad]: I don't think so.
[21:31] <[n0mad]> what are you playing the song with?
[21:31] <t4nk978> MonkeyDust: Yea it's free for personal use, thanks
[21:31] <Doobs> [n0mad]: Pandora on Chrome
[21:32] <DanOpi> Hey guys.  If i'm building a HTPC what distro of ubuntu would you recommend?
[21:32] <Doobs> [n0mad]: So I pause the music, wait 10 seconds, and then the static goes away.
[21:33] <Volund> I have no idea what I'm doing.
[21:33] <Doobs> [n0mad]: Is this not just the audio device closing?
[21:33] <[n0mad]> Doobs: i don't experience that at all on my system
[21:33] <[n0mad]> i pause right to silence
[21:34] <t4nk978> MonkeyDust: Do you use it, is it fast?
[21:34] <Doobs> [n0mad]: Weird. I'll figure it out later, I guess.
[21:34] <[n0mad]> i am on a laptop, so maybe something related to powered speakers?
[21:35] <DanOpi> 15.04 or 14.04 for a HTPC?
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> t4nk978  i use it for ubuntu vm's, it's faster than vbox and i cannot activate vmx or whatnot, because this old frankenstein laptop does not have that
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> t4nk978  but vagrant/windows vm's are fast on vbox
[21:36] <hntty> Let's say in open office calc I want to make a  formula that takes a value of a cell on the left and subtracts from that the the value from the cell above it. I want that forumula to start at cellcount 1, can I do it without an if clause?
[21:37] <ratrace> hntty: wrong channel
[21:38] <lyle> #Root-Me
[21:38] <daftykins> lyle: no thanks
[21:38] <lyle> well how to open this channel :P
[21:38] <lyle> @daftykins
[21:38] <daftykins> "/j #channel"
[21:39] <daftykins> no @, this isn't social notworking
[21:39] <lyle> sorry, new to irc
[21:39] <hntty> daftykins: There is no way you can stop that usage of the @ symbol :p
[21:39] <Bashing-om> Volund: Often times 'sudo fdisk -lu ' will give some direction to "what you are doing" .
[21:39] <Volund> hey guys I just managed to mount my storage drive using fstab. but it's owned by root.
[21:40] <t4nk978> MonkeyDust: is vbox faster with withos than VMware player?
[21:40] <t4nk978> MonkeyDust: I meant with WIndows
[21:40] <Patoo> hey y'all, how do i set folder permisions to 750 skipping files?
[21:40] <Volund> what are good practices for just using this as a general storage drive? I kind of want it available to any user. or just me, since I'm the only user
[21:40] <Volund> chmod or chown or something is what I need to investigate right? It's not something fancier for a whole drive?
[21:41] <Volund> what do I run it on? the folder I made to 'mount' to?
[21:41]  * Volund isn't entirely sure how this behaves
[21:41] <Patoo> in the server. not the drive dirs
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> t4nk978  there's no yes or no ... a manual Win7 installation was slow in vbox, but fast in vmware ... a vagrant installation of Win7 was fast in vbox ... still following?
[21:42] <ratrace> Volund: server or desktop?
[21:42] <Bashing-om> Volund: My thoughts, my "storage drive" also contains my backups. I am paranoid and I only mount that drive on a need to basis . Under my full control .
[21:42] <Volund> ratrace: desktop, homelab, random whatever
[21:42] <Volund> Bashing-om: this is why I have two drives.
[21:42] <Volund> smart practice too mind you
[21:42] <hntty> Volund: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Per-User_Mounts
[21:43] <Volund> hntty: I want one of these mounted permanently so I can samba it.
[21:43] <t4nk978> MonkeyDust: Yea, I just hope it doesn't lag hard with Visual Studio
[21:43] <Volund> which I supose is technically a server purpose...
[21:44] <Volund> I do run 'server' stuff on my rig, it's just personal use
[21:44] <daftykins> hntty: why would i try? i'm just saying it's not correct on IRC.
[21:44]  * Volund bahs
[21:45] <daftykins> Volund: pastebin how you set up your fstab
[21:45] <hntty> daftykins: You can't stop them form using it incorrectly on irc
[21:45] <daftykins> hntty: ok, can you take your pointless comments elsewhere now? :) or can i not control those either? :)
[21:46] <Volund> hooray chown'd
[21:46] <Volund> --dafty, here
[21:46] <hntty> daftykins: Had to check if this was #debian. :)
[21:46] <Volund> http://pastebin.com/Ch1NfW4G
[21:46] <hntty> daftykins: Let me rephrase. Your comments on correct usage of @ won't have any effect.
[21:46] <daftykins> hntty: shut up now.
[21:46] <Volund> this appears to be working. I was able to chown the directory to my user account with sudo
[21:47] <hntty> daftykins: Noooooooo :)
[21:47] <daftykins> Volund: ok, check it stays so after reboot though
[21:47] <hntty> daftykins: Whattaya gonna do about it. I don't see an @ before you name :
[21:47] <hntty> :p
[21:47] <Volund> well mount -a worked so it should but yeah
[21:48] <nuno_nunes> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Access_the_Unstable_Repositories
[21:48] <nuno_nunes> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Access_the_Testing_Repositories
[21:48] <DanOpi> Can someone help me partition my SSD and HDD for Ubuntu?
[21:50] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[21:50] <hntty> DanOpi: You could opt to put all mountpoints on the ssd except home and swap
[21:50] <baum> is there a live-ubuntu which starts an ssh server out of the box?
[21:50] <DanOpi> hntty: What exactly does that mean?  I'm a noob with installing OS
[21:51] <DanOpi> hntty: I want the OS and programs on the SSD and the HHD for storage
[21:52] <ubuntu-mate> foundation
[21:52] <daftykins> ubuntu-mate: do you have a support question?
[21:52] <hntty> DanOpi: How you want to partition them is a somewhat personal story. WHen you just use guided partitioning at install it will be done for you. But if you want to do it in a specific way you have to assign the mount point s yourself (e.g. / /boot /usr   etcetera)
[21:53] <DanOpi> hntty: Hmm okay... So you wouldn't partition it manually?
[21:53] <hntty> DanOpi: No it's a good idea. But you have to have a plan.
[21:53] <DanOpi> hntty: Is my plan detailed enough?
[21:54] <hntty> DanOpi: So for instance on an ssd you wouldnt want a swap. Some people opt to not have a swap partition at all.
[21:54] <DanOpi> Why wouldn't I want a swap on the ssd?
[21:54] <hntty> DanOpi: Of course the system you want to load quickly so you want those on the ssd
[21:55] <DanOpi> correct
[21:56] <DanOpi> hntty: still confused
[21:56] <hntty> DanOpi: Two reasons. Strong reason being that programs load quickly anyway on an ssd. There is no need to have the system use virtual memory(swap) for preloading that stuff
[21:56] <DanOpi> Hmm okay
[21:57] <hntty> DanOpi: Weak reason being that swap does a lot of writes which would shorted the lifetime of your ssd
[21:57] <OerHeks> I would set swappines to 10 or 15https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[21:57] <DanOpi> Do i need a swap for a HTPC with 8 gb of ram
[21:57] <DanOpi> ?
[21:57] <hntty> You can do without
[21:57] <OerHeks> You need it with hybernate/sleep i think.
[21:58] <DanOpi> HTPC usually only need 4gb so i figured i'd be fine without one
[21:58] <daftykins> ^ +1 to always make one regardless
[21:58] <hntty> Tbh I don't know if ubuntu has settings to account for ssd drives
[21:58] <daftykins> mine does fine with 2GB RAM so :D
[21:58] <ningu> I'm about to install Ubuntu on a NUC-like device. I have a couple questions, one is the bios has "os selection" with options windows 7 and windows 8.x, will that matter?
[21:58] <DanOpi> So a swap partition or no?
[21:59] <hntty> put swap on the hdd
[21:59] <ningu> and the other is, this will be an HTPC (I see we're already discussing those ;) should I go with Lubuntu?
[21:59] <hntty> That's what I would do
[21:59] <DanOpi> kk
[21:59] <OerHeks> indeed, swap on hdd with swapiness=10 does fine
[22:00] <daftykins> ningu: nope to the windows options
[22:00] <hntty> DanOpi: Put everything else, except /home on the ssd
[22:00] <ningu> daftykins: ok cool
[22:00] <daftykins> ningu: Kodi or otherwise?
[22:00] <ningu> daftykins: plex media server + plex home server
[22:00] <daftykins> ah ok
[22:01] <ningu> so I need a proper ubuntu install of some sort, I believe
[22:01] <hntty> DanOpi: I'm not sure on what partition sizes you should use for those mount points
[22:01] <daftykins> LTS gets my vote
[22:01] <ningu> daftykins: so regular ubuntu lts... sure
[22:01] <DanOpi> hntty: `120 GB SSD, 3 TB HHD
[22:01] <ningu> I doubt it will be too slow vs. lubuntu
[22:01] <hntty> DanOpi: Certainly /usr will need the most
[22:02] <hntty> DanOpi: As the /usr/share directory will be in there
[22:02] <daftykins> actually, Plex probably would benefit from not having a chunky DE on
[22:02] <ningu> DE?
[22:02] <ningu> desktop environment?
[22:02] <daftykins> bingo
[22:02] <ningu> but plex home theater is a gui app
[22:02] <hntty> DanOpi: Which basically contains all the programs
[22:02] <DanOpi> hntty: I will be using Kodi, Popcorn Time, Deluge/Utorrent, Chrome and a few other small programs (Spotify, Netflix, Etc).
[22:02] <daftykins> yeah, exactly
[22:03] <DanOpi> hntty: so i want those on the ssd
[22:03] <lnlyrbt> qBittorent ftw
[22:03] <hntty> DanOpi: Yes
[22:03] <hntty> DanOpi: Programs/Applications you would like on the ssd, so they're load quickly
[22:04] <DanOpi> Yes
[22:04] <DanOpi> Then movies and music on HDD
[22:04] <hntty> DanOpi: Certainly things like movies you want on the hdd
[22:04] <hntty> DanOpi: idd
[22:04] <DanOpi> I know what i want just don't know how Linux works haha never used it before
[22:05] <daftykins> guess we'll be seeing a lot of you :P
[22:05] <DanOpi> Probably...
[22:05] <DanOpi> xD
[22:06] <DanOpi> I have mint right now but there's no support for it so i'm trying ubuntu
[22:09] <hntty> DanOpi: I think you do not have to assign each mount point. I think you can specify that you want /home and /swap on the hdd and then / on the sdd and have the sdd be one partition.
[22:09] <hntty> DanOpi: But I'm not sure.
[22:09] <DanOpi> Ahh i have no clue either haha
[22:09] <DanOpi> can i wait till i'm partitioning it and walk through it?
[22:10] <hntty> DanOpi: Of course. I'll gladly standby. No garuantees though :p
[22:11] <hntty> guarantees*
[22:11] <DanOpi> hntty: cool cool
[22:12] <hntty> DanOpi: Are you doing dual boot?
[22:12] <DanOpi> hntty: No
[22:12] <hntty> k
[22:14] <mario_> hello
[22:15] <daftykins> hi
[22:15] <hntty> DanOpi: The thing is that 120gb is a lot of space to fill with a linux os.
[22:15] <DanOpi> hntty: What would you recommend doing?
[22:16] <hntty> DanOpi: Well that's just it. There is no better option imo
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> DanOpi  120GB leaves you enough space for a backup partition
[22:16] <DanOpi> hntty: Okay that's fine
[22:16] <DanOpi> MonkeyDust: Backup of what?
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> DanOpi  of your linux installation
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> or your /home partition
[22:17] <DanOpi> MonkeyDust: Do those usually get lost/messed up?
[22:17] <hntty> DanOpi: I suppose you could opt to just put home on ssd anyway
[22:17] <Promille> Hi guys. The sound indicator in unity(x64 15.04) stays at muted even though the internal speakers play sound. Though I can not adjust the volume level with the indicator or with hardware keys on the laptop case(which I was able to before) Any suggestions?
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> DanOpi  it's always wise to have a backup
[22:17] <hntty> DanOpi: And then just keep really big files like music and movies on the hdd
[22:18] <DanOpi> MonkeyDust: Hmmm okay
[22:18] <DanOpi> That's all I'll have though.  Is music and movies
[22:18] <hntty> DanOpi: This would mean that you just use guided partitioning on install :)))
[22:18] <hntty> DanOpi: except the swap of course
[22:19] <DanOpi> if the swap lowers lifetime of drives i'll just skip it
[22:20] <Bashing-om> DanOpi: As daftykins advises, a bit of swap is cheap insurance.
[22:21] <DanOpi> Bashing-om: Fair enough
[22:21] <hntty> DanOpi: In my experience, 60gb for linux+applications is way enough. Not so on windows
[22:21] <daftykins> quite honestly people all over are reading into this "OMG don't write to your SSDs!" scaremongering that tech sites have fostered
[22:21] <daftykins> just use your hardware and live your life, it's not going to be around forever
[22:22] <DanOpi> Truu
[22:22] <Dave666> Hi, If I install 14.10 over the top of 12.10, will I still be able to use the same RAID5 array ?
[22:22] <baum> hntty: not if you are working with different APIs...then your storage goes *poof*
[22:22] <baum> *SDKs
[22:23] <Bashing-om> ! utopic | Dave666
[22:23] <hntty> baum: What type of api's?
[22:24] <daftykins> Dave666: both versions you have mentioned are EOL
[22:24] <hntty> DanOpi: the reason being of course that I have big games installed on windows. But even if I have windows with just office and a few more applications I am at the limit on a 60gb partition
[22:24] <Dave666> 14.04.03 then?
[22:25] <baum> hntty: well especially apis, i kept Qt, java, a SailFishSDK, android sdk, and a few others on my notebook, which made me run out of space quite easily
[22:25] <hntty> DanOpi: Do if you plan to use steam on you could run into the same problem of course
[22:25] <baum> *sdks....
[22:25]  * baum keeps mixing things up today
[22:25] <daftykins> Dave666: fresh install, can't see your rAID setup from here so can't comment
[22:25] <Promille> Hi guys. The sound indicator in unity(x64 15.04) stays at muted even though the internal speakers play sound. Though I can not adjust the volume level with the indicator or with hardware keys on the laptop case(which I was able to before) Any suggestions?
[22:25] <DanOpi> hntty: I only have an apu (AMD A10-7700k) so i probably won't be doing much gaming
[22:26] <Bashing-om> Dave666: +10 for LTS 14.04 .
[22:26] <hntty> DanOpi: baum Makes a fair point I guess.
[22:27] <Dave666> daftykins: My question is, is there any change in the way RAID5 arrays work from 12.10 to 14.x? I have 16TB of RAID5 storage (5 x 4TB disks) and want to avoid having to move all the data across to another machine. If I can just change the boot drive (not on the RAID) then I'll just reinstall
[22:28] <daftykins> Dave666: ah excellent, your OS is off the array - so just disconnect the member disks, clean install 14.04.3, then restore the array operation after. simple.
[22:28] <baum> on a productive system data adds up quite easily - disk space is cheap....so meh :)
[22:28] <Dave666> daftykins: Yeah, just wanted to confirm the 14.x kernel raid drivers are backward compatible with 12.x
[22:29] <telemaque> jean lucien
[22:29] <telemaque> where are u?
[22:29]  * hntty is wondering how logical volume manager would work with a combination of an ssd partition and an hdd
[22:29] <daftykins> Dave666: boot a live session and you'll see.
[22:29]  * baum hopes it works logical
[22:29] <Cagelin> Hi guys. I have a really strange problem attempting to install Ubuntu. I somehow managed to get Xubuntu running, but I'm forced to run on an older kernel. I get the following error during boot (http://pastebin.com/2DuT6zBm). Once booted, I can't use my keyboard and mouse at all. If I then reboot my PC, my actual BIOS complains that it can't find my USB devices anymore. I have to completely cut power from the PC. Once booted back into Windows, everything wor
[22:29] <hntty> baum: -ly
[22:30] <Dave666> daftykins: Hmm, thats' an idea thanks :)
[22:30] <baum> hntty: thanks :)
[22:31] <daftykins> Cagelin: your message was cut off, your paste doesn't mention which kernels
[22:31] <hntty> baum: Kein problem :p
[22:31] <Cagelin> Ah, apologies. I'll paste a larger chunk
[22:31] <Cagelin> hang on
[22:32] <genii> daftykins: Looks like it's trying to use usb3 xhci driver, I wonder if the devices are usb3 or other
[22:33] <daftykins> genii: good call!
[22:33] <daftykins> Cagelin: standard peripherals like mouse + kb in a USB 3 tends to be an unwise move
[22:34]  * baum is glad that he can always fall back to PS/2 with his keyboard :)
[22:34] <hntty> So is ubuntu going to stick with systemd or will it choose upstart again in a year. I'm wondering which one I should learn about..
[22:35] <hntty> Frankly, for a moment I was under the impression that systemd was something of the past.
[22:35] <Cagelin> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/fQrcejjs
[22:35] <Cagelin> I'm not using the USB3 ports
[22:35] <Cagelin> they're marked in red on my IO shield. Had problems with them in the past, even in windows. So yeah :p
[22:36] <baum> hntty: just like Delphi, i'm recently meeting a lot of people who are actually using it
[22:36] <Volund> AHHHH PANIC
[22:36] <Volund> my desktop VANISHED
[22:36] <daftykins> Cagelin: is this 15.10?
[22:37] <hntty> baum: Hehe. WHere?
[22:37] <Cagelin> Yes
[22:37] <Volund> I have windows but the background turned black and I have no taskbar etc
[22:37] <Cagelin> But the same problem happens with 14.04 and 15.04
[22:37] <daftykins> Cagelin: you need #ubuntu+1 then
[22:37] <hntty> baum: Nothing wrong with delphi, mind you
[22:37] <daftykins> with what kernels?
[22:37] <Cagelin> any :s
[22:37] <Cagelin> This is the first distro I managed to get working on my rig :/
[22:37] <daftykins> what is it?
[22:37] <Cagelin> Xubuntu 15.10 beta.
[22:38] <baum> hntty: met them at a big company being db-guys maintaining the backend
[22:38] <daftykins> no, the system :)
[22:38] <Cagelin> Oh haha
[22:38] <Cagelin> MSI z97 gaming 7. Intel core i7 4790k. 32gb
[22:38] <baum> Volund: did you try turning it off and on again?
[22:38] <Cagelin> If thats what you mean
[22:38] <daftykins> latest BIOS?
[22:38] <Cagelin> yeps
[22:38] <Cagelin> updated less than an hour ago
[22:38] <daftykins> did you load defaults and power cycle after updating?
[22:39] <Cagelin> yeah, not that I wanted to though. I was forced to clear CMOS after linux had its way with my USB devices :(
[22:39] <hntty> baum: One of my teachers was a long time delphi programmer. He wasn't really a teacher either, that was just an in between jobs thing for him.
[22:39] <Moonlightning> Hey all. I've got an Ubuntu box set up as a netbox. Something just rebooted it (I'll investigate that later…) and some of the services didn't come up quite right. The first thing is that it's supposed to bridge its two downstream-facing interfaces (eth1 and wlan0) into one (br0) that's used for things like DHCP. For some reason, though, when it came up, eth1 was included in the bridge, but not wlan0.
[22:39] <daftykins> that seems unlikely
[22:39] <Volund> baum: I just began a huge file transfer. D: not so keen on doing that
[22:39] <Moonlightning> I've pastebinned /etc/network/interfaces: https://gist.github.com/BlacklightShining/9e897888593ba791084c
[22:40] <Cagelin> Well, after that error appears and the system boots... If I then reboot, my bios gets stuck on a POST "error 99" message.
[22:40] <baum> hntty: well, to each it's own i guess :)
[22:40] <Cagelin> I need to cut power, push the clear cmos button on the back of my PC and then it lets me boot again
[22:40] <daftykins> Cagelin: pulled the mains entirely to give the controllers a reset?
[22:40] <Cagelin> What do you mean?
[22:40] <Cagelin> oh
[22:40] <Cagelin> cut power
[22:40] <Cagelin> yeah
[22:40] <Cagelin> that worked once
[22:41] <daftykins> as in cable out of PSU, maybe even cables out of motherboard
[22:41] <baum> Volund: in this case, wait and pray :)
[22:42] <Cagelin> But still the question remains... how do I get ubuntu (or xubuntu) working on my rig with just default settings? Right now I'm forced to select the older (4.1.x) kernel from the boot menu.
[22:42] <daftykins> well i'm not going to be commenting on a non-released distro, sorry.
[22:42] <Cagelin> I really have no idea what to look for here, since I'm not _that_ experienced with linux.
[22:43] <Cagelin> Well, like I said, I get this _exact_ same error using Ubuntu 14.04
[22:43] <hntty> baum: I still have to meet one of them cobol maintainers. I hear cobol code is still ubiquitous, though wrapped in java infrastructure. To be honest, I'm wondering if it isn't just cool story that people perpetuate :p
[22:43] <Cagelin> only difference is that 14.04 won't even let me boot.
[22:43] <daftykins> try your best, then beyond that maybe MSI have no love for Linux
[22:43] <Cagelin> Yeah, Im starting to think that as well :(
[22:43] <daftykins> Cagelin: well whilst your word i don't disbelieve, they're different kernels - so there's no point trying to help with one when it simply isn't the same as the other
[22:43] <hntty> baum: s/cool/a cool/.
[22:44] <Cagelin> MSI + Nvidia in SLI setup + Linux = disaster :(
[22:44] <daftykins> you're running SLI right now?
[22:44] <Cagelin> yeah
[22:44] <Cagelin> it works in 15.10
[22:44] <daftykins> ugh
[22:44] <Cagelin> no drivers installed yet though
[22:44] <daftykins> likely there's some parameter raining on your parade
[22:44] <daftykins> but attempting to do high end stuff with bleeding edge Linux is an exercise in masochism
[22:44] <DanOpi> Okay i'm installing Ubuntu now
[22:44] <hntty> DanOpi: okidoki
[22:45] <baum> hntty: actually i'm seriously considering to learn it - just to scare of js-folks, but well, time is a way too valuable =/
[22:45] <Volund> I'm not sure how to restart my equivalent to 'explorer.exe' but that is basically what I need to do here.
[22:45] <baum> *off
[22:45] <Cagelin> Well, I would gladly install a stable release if it would let me :')
[22:45] <daftykins> sounded like it installed fine but didn't boot without quirks
[22:45] <Cagelin> I don't suppose I can "downgrade" this installation to 14.04 or even 15.04 right?
[22:45] <daftykins> so... different answer each time :)
[22:45] <Cagelin> No, I can't even boot the live cd
[22:45] <daftykins> nope no downgrades
[22:45] <Cagelin> meh
[22:45] <daftykins> with nomodeset?
[22:45]  * baum just realized that this is the ubuntu channel
[22:45] <Cagelin> yeah
[22:46] <daftykins> you'd need one card in to install likely
[22:46] <Cagelin> Yeah, thats the only thing I haven't tried.
[22:46] <daftykins> wat
[22:46] <Cagelin> Oh well, it's weekend. Might as well give it a go
[22:46] <daftykins> that'd be my #1
[22:46] <Cagelin> pull one card out...physically
[22:46] <baum> Cagelin: what exactly is the problem with the new kernel?
[22:46] <Cagelin> baum, the latest kernel bricks my USB devices (keyboard + Mouse)
[22:46] <DanOpi> okay so i'm erasing all previous partitions
[22:47] <baum> Cagelin: and you are sure that it's the kernel, not some driver?
[22:47] <Cagelin> total power cut works sometimes. clear CMOS fixes it guaranteed. This is based on what I experenced the past couple of hours at least.
[22:47] <Cagelin> Well, I'm running a fresh install. Selecting the 4.1.0 kernel lets me run everything just fine :s
[22:47] <hntty> baum: Idk, it could be a mastercard vs priceless thing :))
[22:47] <DanOpi> hntty: so what should be the first partition on the ssd?
[22:48] <Cagelin> baum, since I'm running on 2 NVidia cards, ubuntu 14.04 and 15.04 are a disaster. So like daftykins suggested, I'm going to give it another go with just one card installed.
[22:48] <genii> Cagelin: Does your computer have some BIOS option to disable USB3/XHCI ? I might try that if it does
[22:49] <Cagelin> Yeah, I disabled xhci
[22:49] <genii> Hm
[22:49] <Cagelin> that fixes it for the 4.1.0 kernel, but not for the latest one
[22:49] <baum> Cagelin: just wondering, what do you actually want to do with your computer
[22:49] <baum> ?
[22:49] <Cagelin> Dualboot windows / ubuntu
[22:49] <DanOpi> hntty: Size, Primary or Logical, begin or end, use as..., mount point are my options
[22:49] <Cagelin> windows for gaming/media stuff. ubuntu for develping
[22:50] <Cagelin> we're running ubuntu in the office as well, so I would like to have a similar setup at home
[22:50] <baum> ubuntu int he office? nice!
[22:50] <Cagelin> yep :_
[22:50] <baum> which editor are you using?
[22:50] <Cagelin> :)
[22:50] <Cagelin> phpstorm
[22:50] <baum> pff
[22:50] <Cagelin> :D
[22:50] <hntty> DanOpi: If I'm not mistaken you should be able to partition the hdd into a 2-4gb for swap and just make one partition for the ssd
[22:51] <baum> their new licencing model killed them for me....
[22:51] <hntty> DanOpi: And the rest of the hdd for storage
[22:51] <DanOpi> How do i do that?  xD
[22:51] <hntty> DanOpi: And then after partitioning you should be able to choose mount points
[22:51] <Cagelin> Most people are still on Eclipse in our office, but some of us just bought the personal license, since you can use that for work purposes as well :)
[22:51] <daftykins> lets not get off topic
[22:52] <Cagelin> Anyway, before I fall asleep, I'm going to give ubuntu 15.04 another go with one gfx card
[22:52] <daftykins> you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[22:52] <hntty> DanOpi: Then just choose / for sdd and /swap for hdd
[22:52] <DanOpi> Hmm
[22:52] <Cagelin> I'll get back here in a bit if I discover something new
[22:52] <Cagelin> thanks for the info, daftykins!
[22:53] <hntty> DanOpi: I think the installer will crate every other directory under / (on the ssd)
[22:53] <DanOpi> I want to manually do it
[22:53] <alex____2> hello world
[22:53] <hntty> DanOpi: e.g. /home /usr etcetera
[22:53] <DanOpi> when i let it do it, it messed some things up
[22:53] <alex____2> how is everyone today?
[22:54] <hntty> DanOpi: The thing is that there isn't really a reason to specify _every_ mount point unless you have a special purpose with it
[22:54] <DanOpi> Yeah not really.  SSD is for OS and Programs. HDD is for files and media.
[22:55] <DanOpi> beyond that as long as i can create folders and organize i'm fine
[22:55] <Ben64> so put / on the ssd, /home on hdd
[22:55] <DanOpi> but idk how to do that while partitioning
[22:55] <hntty> DanOpi: So there isn't really a reason to specify /boot /usr /bin etcetera. Unless you have like a special purpose that you want to be able to switch those mount points.
[22:55] <DanOpi> how big do i make those though?
[22:56] <DanOpi> And what is their "use as"
[22:56] <Ben64> depends how much stuff you want to have installed / stored
[22:56] <DanOpi> 120 GB SSD, 3 TB HDD
[22:56] <DanOpi> is it bad to use it all?
[22:56] <Ben64> no
[22:56] <hntty> DanOpi: not at all
[22:56] <DanOpi> so what... 100 GB for /
[22:57] <DanOpi> then i need boot and efi stuff right?
[22:57] <hntty> efi is not you concern
[22:57] <hntty> your*
[22:57] <baum> yes, use coreboot instead
[22:57] <baum> uefi has to die
[22:57] <chris66> HI! can some one help me with screen config?
[22:57] <Volund> okay screw it
[22:58] <DanOpi> idk how to do any of it... haha
[22:58] <hntty> baum: Let's not make this installation into a political riot :p
[22:58] <baum> chris66: man xrandr - there you go :)
[22:58] <bprompt> DanOpi:    I have a 120 ssd, with 3 partitions in it,  *nix OS is on a 30gbs partition, and I have another one for data dumping, the OS itself only takes around 8gbs
[22:58] <Volund> so I rebooted and I got the black screen again, on both monitors, which are now behaving as the same monitor
[22:58] <chris66> thanks
[22:58] <DanOpi> Will / be primary or logical?  Start at begining? Use as?
[22:59] <hntty> DanOpi: One thing you need to keep in mind is this. Most of the mount points, you do not need to assign. The installer will place them under /
[22:59] <bprompt> DanOpi:   you'd be using mbr type of partitions, so you're limited to 4 primary ones, you won't be making as many, so might as well make it primary,  logical ones, are when you'd be having more than 4 in the hdd
[22:59] <baum> hntty: alright, i'll call it a day, let's start the riot tomorrow
[22:59] <Volund> I have no idea how to troubleshoot this so I'm going to just switch to Ubuntu and deal with Unity. ASSUMING someone can tell me if Ubuntu's Unity supports VNC?
[22:59] <Volund> or something similar I can use on Windows or remote control
[23:00] <DanOpi> what about the use as option?
[23:00] <Volund> for *
[23:00] <chris66> I installed xubuntu but there is nobody awake in the xubuntu chan, my problem is that I connect a larger screen to my laptop with Xubuntu 15.04, I turn the laptop screen off and use the larger one as primary, but when I reboot, it forgets all settings and both screens come on, and they are both white so I never get to the login
[23:00] <daftykins> !manual | DanOpi i'm sure someone will help, but really you can do this all yourself with the manual
[23:00] <edimax> Hi, I have a really simple networking setup but am unsure how to configure the ip addresses, netmasks etc on my computer shown in the diagram. I've configured the router to assign a static IP address for the computer.  I've put a diagram here: http://pastebin.com/Ca0LUpH3 , any  help would be much appreciated.
[23:01] <edimax> the computer is running ubuntu
[23:01] <DanOpi> xD
[23:01] <daftykins> edimax: you can't be on 192.168.x.x if the router is on 10.1.1.1
[23:01] <daftykins> those are completely different networks :)
[23:01] <daftykins> edimax: also ##networking is more apt since this is OS support
[23:01] <edimax> can't I add a second IP address?
[23:01] <edimax> I've done it before with a windows computer
[23:02] <chris66> anyone have some idea how to solve this problem?
[23:02] <Volund> HELLO does Ubuntu 15.04 support VNC?
[23:02] <DanOpi> daftykins: didn't find anything in there about partitioning
[23:02] <daftykins> !patience | Volund entitled attitudes will not be tolerated here
[23:02] <hntty> DanOpi: Just partition the ssd into one disk -> partition the hdd into a swap and a storage. Put mount point / on the sdd, swap on hdd 4gb and the continue
[23:02] <daftykins> DanOpi: o rly.
[23:02] <DanOpi> daftykins: not specifics such as i need
[23:03] <bprompt> DanOpi:    as I said, I have an 120 ssd, just make a couple of primary ones... well, one for /swap if you need, it, so 3 primary partitions,   the install on an ssd takes about 5mins
[23:03] <DanOpi> hntty: i don't know what to set as Use as...
[23:03] <daftykins> chris66: when they're white, try toggling to TTY1 with Ctrl+Alt+F1 then back again with Alt+F7
[23:03] <hntty> DanOpi: I'm going to start an installation in virtual box to see what you are talking about
[23:04] <Ben64> DanOpi: what are the options
[23:04] <daftykins> DanOpi: what is left beyond Ext4, / as mount point, primary partition - and so on? :)
[23:05] <chris66> I could possibly jump out of x but that is a temporary fix, there is a problem in the configuration on xubuntu, I never experienced this on ubuntu with xfce
[23:05] <daftykins> chris66: just try it
[23:06] <chris66> thanks dafty I will, btw, can you explain what TTY1 is?
[23:06] <DanOpi> Ext4 journaling file system, Ext3 " ", Ext2 file system, FAT16, FAT32, swap, reserved bios boot area, efi boot partition
[23:07] <hntty> DanOpi: one sec
[23:07] <daftykins> chris66: console logins, usually 6 of 'em - F1 through F6.
[23:07] <hntty> DanOpi: Btw use ext4 for everything except swap
[23:07] <chris66> ok, I will try now, thanks:)
[23:07] <hntty> DanOpi: unlesss you want a partition to be readable for windows
[23:07] <Volund> Hrm. Ubuntu or Lubuntu.... Lubuntu would probably be nicer for my purposes but as I recall it didn't like my USB headphones... unsure. I'll try it again
[23:10] <Volund> I am just disgusted by my loss in productivity. although I think the problem might be video drivers.
[23:10] <DanOpi> hntty: hmm okay
[23:12] <hntty> DanOpi: Okey so which disk are you at?
 it didn't work, when I get back with ctrl alt F7 the screens are still white and hanging in limboland:/
[23:13] <daftykins> chris66: ah well. what graphics + driver?
[23:14] <DanOpi> hntty: Working on it then will post a picture before moving on
[23:14] <chris66> I didn't install it yet
[23:14] <chris66> how do I check?
[23:14] <hntty> DanOpi: So you pick the sdd first, you just choose use as  ext4, and mount point / Don't change anything else
[23:14] <hntty> DanOpi: Then you can choose the hdd
[23:15]  * Volund tries to revive Kubuntu, thinks the problem miht be fglrx-updates
[23:15] <daftykins> chris66: wait what? so this is all from a live session?
[23:15] <AbdoTGM50> Hi can ummm someone tell me what this means https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lvo5gwbrqo01ba/20150919_020121.jpg?dl=0
[23:15] <Cagelin> Hey daftykins. I'm currently inside the live-cd environment of Ubuntu 15.04. I pulled out one of my gfx cards and got in using nomodeset. So huuray for that :p
[23:15] <chris66> hmm, live session?
[23:15] <Cagelin> Now I get the following error during installation: The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.
[23:15] <Cagelin> Yeah
[23:16] <daftykins> EFI or not EFI boot?
[23:16] <hntty> DanOpi: You make a partition of 4gb, and at "use as" choose swap area
[23:16] <daftykins> chris66: none of this fault resolving is a worthy use of anyones time then
[23:16] <DanOpi> hntty: I put a 500 mb EFI boot, 4 gb swap, and the rest on / for my ssd
[23:16] <DanOpi> hntty: I put the full 3 TB to /mnt/SG3TB ext4
[23:16] <DanOpi> sound good?
[23:17] <daftykins> don't use /mnt
 I don't know those terms, I'm not very good at linux, what do you mean by live session? I just trying to start my computer and login with my large screen
[23:17] <daftykins> chris66: right and you say it's not installed, so is this just booting off a flash drive or DVD?
[23:18] <DanOpi> why not use /mnt?
[23:18] <Moonlightning> I have an Ethernet bridge configured in /etc/network/interfaces, but one of the interfaces was missing from it when it got set up automatically on boot.
[23:18] <Moonlightning> /etc/network/interfaces: https://gist.github.com/BlacklightShining/9e897888593ba791084c
[23:18] <Volund> gargh
[23:18] <Volund> even shift-recovery mode isn't coming up now
[23:18] <daftykins> DanOpi: because it's against convention, /media/mountpoint would be better - also don't use caps
 no I mean I didn't install the nvidia drivers yet, this is some driver ubuntu provide, I don't know what they are called
[23:19] <Volund> I'll just use Ubuntu since that's what Steam recommends. I don't think I can install SteamOS :P
[23:19] <DanOpi> daftykins: hmm okaky
[23:19] <daftykins> chris66: well you didn't even say it's nvidia you're running *facepalm*
 what I mean this is not the nvidia closed driver, it's the ubuntu one
[23:19] <hntty> DanOpi: 500mb is way enough
[23:20] <daftykins> chris66: yeah so nouveau. so right, proprietary nvidia will work better with external screens. depends what hardware this is
 sorry about that, but I didn't think this had to do with my grapics at all, since it works on ubuntu but not on xubuntu
[23:20] <Volund> I gve up. I'll deal with Unity so long as I can get some kind of desktop sharing going later.
[23:20] <DanOpi> could i do /sg3tb/mountpoint?
[23:20] <hntty> DanOpi: And SG3Tb is your own mount point I presume.
[23:20] <hntty> DanOpi: Good stuff
[23:20] <Volund> if all the support goes to Ubuntu it's better to just go with the flow. @_@
[23:21]  * Volund rufus rufus
[23:21] <ningu> my new HTPC seems to be working on Ubuntu except for one thing: it connects to wifi then drops it after a few min, and I have to restart to regain the connection. any idea how to debug? it's a realtek wifi chip, can get the exact model number...
 so you think I should try to install nvidia first?
[23:21] <daftykins> i am confident yes.
[23:22] <hntty> daftykins: Why not use /mnt?
[23:22] <mlvmhn> how do i list users from a certain country in my irc client?
[23:22] <hntty> DanOpi: I suppose you can just put it under /
[23:23] <DanOpi> INstalling already haha
[23:23] <hntty> DanOpi: It really seems fine to me.
[23:23] <tgm4883> The proper place might be /srv/
[23:23] <daftykins> mlvmhn: you don't - also that's not an Ubuntu question.
[23:23] <hntty> DanOpi: I doubt you'll run into any conflict below /mnt
[23:23] <ningu> rtl8723be is the chip.
[23:23] <mlvmhn> my bad, but Konversation is an irc client running in Ubuntu?
[23:24] <daftykins> hntty: regardless, policy is to be followed :)
 I don't think the graphics is the reason but I will install the nvidia drivers and see if it helps, I probably  be back:)
[23:24] <daftykins> mlvmhn: my cat could fart near my computer, wouldn't make it an ubuntu issue.
[23:24] <daftykins> mlvmhn: #freenode please
[23:24] <hntty> daftykins: Can you put it under /media?
[23:24] <tgm4883> Yea, /srv or /media depending on if it's removable or not
[23:25] <daftykins> hntty: isn't that what i said? :)
[23:25] <DanOpi> Too late.. xD
[23:25] <tgm4883> Well you can technically put it anywhere, but the proper place for externally connected storage would be /media
[23:26] <DanOpi> i did /mnt/sg3  oh well
[23:26] <hntty> I'm guessing the file manager works better with /media as well
[23:26] <daftykins> DanOpi: pay attention in future
[23:26] <DanOpi> just curious... why does it matter?
[23:26] <hntty> DanOpi: Now that you've done it once, you can redo it quickly :pp
[23:27] <DanOpi> It's an internal HDD.  Not external
[23:27] <daftykins> yes we graped that bit
[23:27] <daftykins> grasped too
[23:27] <tgm4883>  /mnt would be for temporary mounted filesystems
[23:27] <tgm4883> DanOpi: then /srv would be the proper place
[23:28] <hntty> daftykins: grokked*
[23:28] <DanOpi> Can i reformat the HDD?  since nothings on it or do i have to do it all at once again?
[23:28] <tgm4883> but let's be real here. We're talking about where to mount extra storage for a user to store random files on a single user system right?
[23:29] <DanOpi> Yep haha
[23:29] <daftykins> hntty: no, you can say that - but it's not a correction
[23:30] <hntty> daftykins: You're worse than ##c :p
[23:30] <tgm4883> DanOpi: Then /totallynotadultvideos
[23:30] <daftykins> hntty: in that i don't tolerate idiots? never been there
[23:31] <hntty> DanOpi: If you want to get a grasp of how the file system is organised, this is a nice read http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy.pdf
[23:31] <Bebo> Hey
[23:31] <genii> !hfs
[23:31] <tgm4883> DanOpi: but yea, if you wanted to mount it in the proper location, there are different mount points for different types of storage
[23:31] <genii> Oops, not that one
[23:31] <tgm4883> hntty: I usually point people at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.pdf
[23:31] <hntty> daftykins: A little bit. But mostly in that you are needlessly defiant.
[23:32] <genii> !filesystem
[23:32] <daftykins> hntty: i can say the same about you :) now if we could get off your ego and back to support please
[23:32] <genii> Yeah, that was the one
[23:32] <hntty> daftykins: hear hear
[23:33] <tgm4883> Huzzah!
[23:33] <mlvmhn> my system is hanging sometimes without reason
[23:33] <hntty> tgm4883: Nice. I'll have a look
[23:33] <mlvmhn> how come?
[23:33] <tgm4883> mlvmhn: bad power supply
[23:33] <mlvmhn> not in the mood for jokes sorry
[23:34] <tgm4883> mlvmhn: well you didn't give us a whole lot to go on, and having a bad power supply could cause a system hang
[23:34] <tgm4883> but whatever
[23:34] <hntty> DanOpi: You did it!
[23:34] <mlvmhn> my system is Ubuntu 14.04 lts, 4 GB RAM, 3.16 Ghz dual-core processor
[23:35] <mlvmhn> running Chrome with 7 tabs
[23:35] <DanOpi> hntty: thanks for the help
[23:35] <DanOpi> hntty: now to customize it and install everything
[23:35] <hntty> DanOpi: The other mount point are for if you want to do something insane like switch the /usr mount point to another disk or partition.
[23:35] <DanOpi> hntty: gotcha
[23:36] <hntty> DanOpi: Now they are just placed below / as normal directories
[23:36] <DanOpi> Yeah i was able to find my HDD fine
[23:36] <mlvmhn> all suddenly the system hangs without reason, often when maximising a windows
[23:36] <mlvmhn> could this mean poor graphic hardware?
[23:37] <Volund> ntu
[23:37] <Volund> gah
[23:37] <Volund> so greetings from a fresh ubuntu install
[23:37] <mlvmhn> could someone bother to reply plz
[23:37] <DanOpi> hntty: Comes with a lot of useless programs haha
[23:38] <mlvmhn> only morons in here now?
[23:38] <hntty> DanOpi: Well you can always go for slackware or lfs :p
[23:38]  * tgm4883 shakes head
[23:38] <DanOpi> hntty: What are those?
[23:39] <hntty> DanOpi: Other linux distributions, for people that well.. have more time on their hands :p
[23:39] <daftykins> mlvmhn: you got a serious reply from a good regular helper, so unless you contribute logs or you go memtest - you're not going to get anything better. drop the attitude.
[23:39] <Moonlightning> How do I get the system to use a different default interface? For some reason, the default route was set via br0 instead of eth0.
[23:39] <ningu> fixed my wifi issue with a bit of googling. :)
[23:40] <jlim> hey guys
[23:40] <hntty> Moonlightning: br0 is a name for an interface to bridged network connection
[23:40] <TJ-> Moonlightning: the default route is set when a DHCP option 'router' or interfaces file 'gateway' is set
[23:40] <MannyLNJ> Hello, I need to know how to harden my Ubuntu install. I made the IP of the system the DMZ IP on my router. I know this is unsafe unless I lock down the system.
[23:41] <jlim> is there a channel for ubuntu mate?
[23:41] <Moonlightning> TJ-: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
[23:41] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: that was really silly, just port forward.
[23:41] <tgm4883> daftykins: +1
[23:41] <mlvmhn> daftykins; what "good" reply was that you mean?
[23:42] <MannyLNJ> daftykins, I couldn't get port fowarding to work right on my ISP's router for PPTP and SSH
[23:42] <daftykins> mlvmhn: logs or memtest
[23:42] <daftykins> chop chop
[23:42] <Moonlightning> TJ-: so I probably don't want this `gateway` under br0.
[23:43] <skynetguy> Hello i am having bugs in a browsers for ubuntu firefox, google chrome and chromium on 12.04 precise???
[23:43] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: well SSH should've been easy.
[23:43] <skynetguy> is this happening as well on 14.04
[23:43] <TJ-> Moonlightning: Is this the hostapd br0 ?
[23:43] <hntty> Moonlightning: Are you on a router or something?
[23:43] <Volund> ... my software center just turned grey and unresponsive...weird.
[23:44] <Moonlightning> TJ-: no? hostapd is set to run on wlan0.
[23:44] <Moonlightning> hntty: I know br0 is a bridge. I made it.
[23:44] <Moonlightning> hntty: yes, this box is a router (and switch, and WAP)
[23:44]  * Volund installs PlayOnLinux, Chromium, Synaptic...
[23:44] <TJ-> Moonlightning: I thought you were bridging wlan0 and eth0 as br0 though
[23:44] <skynetguy> Is anybody else having browser issues on Trusty Tahr???
[23:45] <Moonlightning> TJ-: I'm bridging wlan0 and eth/1/ as br0. eth0 goes upstream.
[23:45] <TJ-> Moonlightning: if br0 is 10.0.0.1 then you shouldn't be also doing "gateway 10.0.0.1" on that I/F
[23:45] <Moonlightning> TJ-: that's means make that default gateway for /this/ box.
[23:45] <TJ-> Moonlightning: my typo, sorry
[23:45] <Moonlightning> Not for DHCP /clients/ to this box. That's a completely different option in a completely different config file.
[23:45]  * Moonlightning facepalms at self.
[23:45] <Moonlightning> Okay, that actually makes more sense.
[23:46] <skynetguy> I dont know why ubuntu is always releasing pae's
[23:46] <ningu> how do I ensure that I have the correct/optimal video drivers installed?
[23:46] <Moonlightning> How do I make eth0 the default interface, then? I can't put a `gateway` line under it 'cos it's `dhcp`…
[23:46] <ningu> I am trying to run plex home theater, but it seems to be flickering.
[23:46] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: 'gateway' is the next-hop on that link. You can't have an I/F's next hop be itself unless you want endless loops :)
[23:46] <jcstarken> there is a usb image writer in mint, I can not find it for ubuntu 14.04lts thank you
[23:46] <tgm4883> Moonlightning: just don't put it under the other one
[23:46] <ningu> ah just found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[23:47] <Moonlightning> TJ-: tabcomplete mistake?
[23:47] <TJ-> Moonlightning: if eth0 comes up via DHCP, and the DHCP server sends the option 'router' that'll be set as the system default route, done
[23:47] <Moonlightning> tgm4883: er…okay. I'll try that.
[23:47] <Moonlightning> TJ-: ah, cool. Thanks!
[23:47] <skynetguy> Is anybody else out there having buggy issues with their browser for 14.04LTS
[23:47]  * Moonlightning ticks another box on his checklist.
[23:47] <skynetguy> ???
[23:47] <TJ-> Moonlightning: grrr, my typing!!
[23:47] <tgm4883> skynetguy: define buggy
[23:47] <Moonlightning> TJ- :)
[23:48] <Moonlightning> TJ-: as if that wasn't bad enough, I tend to show up in places that already have `Moon*`s and `Moonlight*`s :)
[23:48] <skynetguy> tgm4883, firefox sometimes artifacts, google chrome loses profile then after a while wont load same for chromium???
[23:49] <TJ-> Moonlightning: I swear I have dyslexic eyes... I'm sure I saw your nickname there :)
[23:49] <tgm4883> skynetguy: I don't have any of those issues, but I only use chrome
[23:49] <skynetguy> tgm4883, im on 12.04lts
[23:49] <tgm4883> I'm on 14.04 and 15.04
[23:49] <skynetguy> tgm4883, you mean google chrome or chromium??
[23:49] <tgm4883> skynetguy: google chrome
[23:50] <Volund> Hrm.
[23:50] <Volund> I think what's making my computer explode is the proprietary AMD drivers
[23:50] <skynetguy> tgm4883, do you use generic pae
[23:51] <tgm4883> skynetguy: for the kernel?
[23:51] <skynetguy> tgm4883, yeah
[23:51] <tgm4883> skynetguy: no, I use 64-bit
[23:52] <skinux> Weird problem. I installed Ubuntu to a partition, unfortunately, there are boot menu entries for it.
[23:52] <Moonlightning> Last thing, #ubuntu . I have bridged eth1 and wlan0 under br0 in /etc/network/interfaces ( https://gist.github.com/BlacklightShining/9e897888593ba791084c ), but when I reboot, wlan0 isn't on the bridge.
[23:52] <skynetguy> tgm4883, i always thought the 64 bit versions didnt work as well as the 32big
[23:52] <tgm4883> skynetguy: lol
[23:52] <tgm4883> skynetguy: I'm not sure why you think that. It's been better since about 2008
[23:52] <skynetguy> tgm4883, and also most packages come in 32bit versions
[23:53] <tgm4883> skynetguy: most packages come in 64-bit versions too
[23:53] <ningu> hrm... so there's an intel graphics for ubuntu installer?
[23:53] <skynetguy> tgm4883, maybe i'll upgrade to 14.04 64bit
[23:53] <ningu> it's not a deb?
[23:53] <TJ-> Moonlightning: you have 'iface wlan0 ...' commented out
[23:53] <tgm4883> skynetguy: perhaps you should. You're operating on decade old information
[23:53] <Moonlightning> TJ-: should I not?
[23:53] <TJ-> Moonlightning: not sure! but its worth trying :)
[23:53]  * Moonlightning doesn't quite understand this. Looks at the `interfaces` manualpage again.
[23:54] <skynetguy> tgm4883, also my update manager says 14.04.3LTS is availabe and it give me option to upgrade is that the 64 bit version or 32bit???
[23:54] <tgm4883> skynetguy: if you are on the 32-bit version, you'll upgrade to the 32-bit version. If you want the 64-bit version you've got to do a clean install
[23:54] <TJ-> Moonlightning: the 'interfaces' file is used by the ifupdown scripts. If the system has Network Manager and the interface isn't declared in 'interfaces' then possibly NM is managing wlan0
[23:55] <skynetguy> tgm4883, damn
[23:55] <skynetguy> tgm4883, is there any way i can upgrade to 64 bit version from here and keep all my files
[23:55] <MannyLNJ> daftykins, I'm an id10t I found pre-made entries in the setup for SSH and PPTP in the router config. (I really need to buy my own router and replace the ISP provided one)
[23:55] <skynetguy> tgm4883, i dual boot to windows 7
[23:55] <Moonlightning> TJ-: nope, no network-manager.
[23:56] <tgm4883> skynetguy: no way that I'm going to support
[23:56] <Moonlightning> I always thought network-manager was an X thing anyway
[23:56] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: or learning how to use the ISP one would work too :)
[23:56] <skynetguy> tgm4883, huh???
[23:56] <TJ-> Moonlightning: I'd *suspect* without the active entry in 'interfaces' wlan0 will be in the DOWN state, and possibly that prevents brctl from acting on the 'bridge_ports' entry for wlan0
[23:57] <Moonlightning> TJ-: I'm not sure what happened during boot, but right now all four interfaces are up according to ifconfig.
[23:57] <tgm4883> skynetguy: you can reinstall and keep your files, but I'd have a backup of them anyway (as you should for any files that are deemed important)
[23:57] <Moonlightning> TJ-: keep in mind that eth1 would also have been down because its line is also commented. :)
[23:57] <MannyLNJ> daftykins, My ISP's router **cannot** be configured by me. When I go to the IP of the router it redirects me to the ISP's site to control everything
[23:57] <volund_> gra
[23:57] <Volund> so I figured out why my Kubuntu exploded.
[23:58] <skynetguy> tgm4883, so the version that update manager is giving me is the 32bit version of 14.04
[23:58] <skynetguy> tgm4883, ??
[23:58] <tgm4883> skynetguy: it gives you the same architecture that you currently have installed
[23:59] <skynetguy> tgm4883, you think it makes any diffrence if i use 32 bit 14.04 versus 64bit
[23:59]  * tgm4883 shrugs