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bluesabreso much for me getting anything done this week02:14
bluesabre:D02:14
bluesabreI'll get some releases and uploads out this weekend02:14
bluesabrenight all02:14
flocculantsomething seems awry - create a new document - previously would open in mousepad - now wants to know what to open it with 07:55
flocculantwould that be an xdg-utils problem? 08:07
flocculantthe old testcases would have had us reporting against thunar 08:08
flocculantbluesabre: bug 1497170 and bug 1497175 all shiny and new09:03
ubottubug 1497170 in thunar (Ubuntu) "New file creation - not opening with file editor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149717009:03
ubottubug 1497175 in thunar (Ubuntu) "File restore from wastebin not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149717509:03
flocculantnot reported either on bugzilla just yet - make sure they're both thunar bugs before I do that 09:04
flocculantdid both (and checked) in clean install to make sure it wasn't just local09:04
flocculantobviously will report to bugzilla if we need that and link them09:05
flocculantwhen is wily getting the wily help files? 10:34
flocculantbefore they freeze images next week? 10:34
knomehmm?10:34
flocculantoh - so I guess you thought it had them already :)10:35
knomewhat are you referring to with help files?10:35
flocculantthe help in the menu10:35
bluesabreflocculant: could be xdg-utils or exo10:35
bluesabretry using xdg-open and exo-open and see what happens with each10:35
flocculantbluesabre: which is why I didn't bugzilla thunar pointlessly yet :)10:36
knomeflocculant, you are referring to the last change you did?10:36
flocculantbluesabre: same for both - gives the 'what do you want to open this with?' dialogue10:37
bluesabrehmmm10:37
flocculantknome: nope - not that at all, when you open help in wily you still get 15.04 docs10:37
knomeo.O10:37
bluesabreI think that's xdg then10:37
bluesabreone moment10:37
* knome llooks10:38
flocculantxubuntu-docs15.04.2 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20150918/wily-desktop-amd64.manifest10:39
knomebluesabre, insight on flocculant's question?10:39
knomeoh right10:39
bluesabreknome: I keep asking if you need an upload10:39
bluesabre:D10:39
knomeso we haven't just done an upload for this cycle yet10:39
flocculant:D10:39
knomewell, i don't think it's a big issue, but sure, you can do one now if it isn't too much work10:39
Unit193Might have been a good idea before string freeze. ;D10:39
knomemight have been - though i thought we had the string changes covered already10:40
slickymasterWorkme too knome 10:41
knomebluesabre, let's do an upload now then10:41
knomebluesabre, do you want me to handle the freeze exception paperwork?10:41
slickymasterWorkand morning all10:41
knomehello slickymasterWork 10:41
bluesabreknome: please do since I'll be out most of the day, but can upload when I get home10:42
knomeoki10:42
knomethanks10:42
bluesabreflocculant: if you choose a default, does it remember it?10:42
Unit193I suppose the  warning: failed to load external entity "C/translator-credits.xml"  is fine?10:42
bluesabreknome: Unit193 can also upload if you want it earlier in the day10:43
Unit193>_>10:43
bluesabreput that xubuntu-uploaders membership to use :D10:43
flocculantbluesabre: yes it does - though the icon on desktop still seems the be the 'wth is this!' one :)10:43
bluesabreflocculant: yikes10:43
knomeyess10:44
knomeUnit193, yeah, it's just a warning - it's expected and ok10:44
Unit193Figured, since C.  Though kind of disagree. :D10:44
flocculantbluesabre: http://i.imgur.com/aovACvT.png10:44
bluesabreflocculant: xdg-mime query filetype <filename>10:45
flocculantproperties - kind unknown10:45
flocculantapplication/octet-stream10:46
bluesabrehmm10:46
bluesabreif you have a pre-wily vm somewhere, can you try the same?10:46
flocculantalmost feel useful today \o/ apart from making work for people lol 10:46
knomelol10:46
flocculantbluesabre: ooh - might actually be able to do a 'while ago' vm 10:47
bluesabrepretty sure its xdg-utils at fault, just trying to figure out which fix broke it10:47
flocculanthave one with ppa's I don't use much 10:47
knomelunch, bbl10:47
bluesabreflocculant: if its over a week old, it would probably have the older xdg10:48
flocculantok - so in there it works 10:48
flocculant1.1.0~rc1-2ubuntu1110:49
bluesabredoes the xdg-mime command return something different?10:49
Unit193http://paste.openstack.org/show/grsj2OKxSRjQkyMRlINo/ nice...10:49
flocculantbluesabre: yep text/plain10:50
bluesabrethere we go10:50
flocculantso change that bug to xdg-utils ?10:50
bluesabreyup10:50
bluesabreand add a note about that10:50
flocculantok 10:51
Unit193!info xdg-utils unstable10:51
ubottuxdg-utils (source: xdg-utils): desktop integration utilities from freedesktop.org. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.0~rc3+git20150907-2 (unstable), package size 66 kB, installed size 297 kB10:51
Unit193!info xdg-utils wily10:51
ubottuxdg-utils (source: xdg-utils): desktop integration utilities from freedesktop.org. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.0~rc3+git20150907-1ubuntu2 (wily), package size 56 kB, installed size 292 kB10:51
bluesabrethanks flocculant!10:51
flocculantwelcome10:51
flocculantthough that was just one of them :(10:51
flocculantthe thunar one is the same in the oldish vm 10:52
flocculantbluesabre: ok 0 changed that one and commented 10:53
flocculantbluesabre: so - boot ubuntu vm - try and restore from trash - same problem :)10:55
flocculantso that's not thunar either \o/ 10:56
bluesabrenice10:56
bluesabreso thats likely gvfs10:56
Unit193gvfs! \o/10:56
bluesabreknome: want to ack https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/+bug/1497228 before I nudge -release11:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1497228 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] shimmer-themes 2.0.2" [Undecided,New]11:00
flocculantmmm so installing restore-trash and using that from cli works ok 11:02
flocculantbluesabre: shall I just move that bug from thunar to gvfs and let someone work out where it should be? 11:02
flocculantsomeone else ... 11:02
bluesabreflocculant: yeah, that will get some eyes on it11:03
flocculantyep - I'll whack it on the tracker too - for ubuntu and us :)11:03
bluesabre:D11:03
bluesabreflocculant: I'll see about adding a patched xdg-utils to -staging this weekend to see if that takes care of things11:04
flocculantok 11:04
flocculantnice - so both not us :)11:10
flocculantunfortunately I can't make me read 15.10 for the help files :D11:10
knomebluesabre, i wonder what kind of ack you want11:18
bluesabreknome: you're in docs, right?11:18
knomebluesabre, also, if you didn't look at -release, you got the ack to upload docs now11:18
knomeoh right11:18
knomedone :P11:19
bluesabrethanks11:19
bluesabrenow to remember how to upload docs11:19
knomehaha :P11:19
bluesabre:p11:19
bluesabre3-4 times a year :D11:20
* Unit193 wonders what's hard about uploading docs.11:21
bluesabrenothing11:21
* knome shrugs11:21
bluesabrebeing silly11:21
knome;)11:21
Unit193They even remembered to keep the changelog short or wrap it. :D11:22
Unit193(Or I already fixed, either way.  I may have poked..)11:22
knomeslickymasterWork, ping?11:23
bluesabre:D11:24
bluesabrerunning a test build, then will upload11:24
slickymasterWorkpong knome 11:24
knomeslickymasterWork, want to draft a mail for the ubuntu-translators list with me?11:26
knomeabout the xubuntu docs11:26
slickymasterWorksure, but I was about to go lunch11:26
slickymasterWorkcan we do it after?11:26
knomeok, let's do it after that11:26
knomeyep11:27
slickymasterWorkgreat, I'll ping you when I arrive11:27
Unit193bluesabre: bzr tag 15.10.0 ? :D11:27
bluesabreUnit193: I'll let knome do that, I'm not in the documentation team11:27
slickymasterWorkI see you already ack https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/+bug/1497228 knome, so there's no need for me to put my hat on11:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1497228 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] shimmer-themes 2.0.2" [Undecided,New]11:28
knomeslickymasterWork, yep11:28
Unit193bluesabre: I am, but wrong docs team.  I still get some of the crappy Ubuntu bug mail, but no push rights. :D11:28
bluesabre:D11:28
bluesabrethat might be my situation as well11:28
flocculantbluesabre: sorry - I forgot to add that mime stuff to there ... 11:29
Unit193Also, new Core uploads.11:30
bluesabreflocculant: np11:31
bluesabreknome: docs uploaded11:31
knomebluesabre, cheers :)11:32
flocculantUnit193: are we actually likely to see core on cdimage this cycle ? 11:32
flocculantif not I'll move that to postponed ;)11:32
Unit193flocculant: At the rate of the MP review?  Sure!  If you mean the XXX cycle...11:32
bluesabre:D11:32
flocculant:D11:32
* bluesabre gets ready for work11:36
bluesabrebbl, hf all11:36
Unit193https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/15.10.011:37
flocculantcya bluesabre 11:37
knomeslickymasterWork, http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-documentation-translations11:50
jjfrv8flocculant, good catches on those two bugs! I confirmed them both.12:51
jjfrv8Interesting thing was that I had a couple of files in Trash from a few days ago and they restored, but newly deleted ones don't.12:52
slickymasterWorkand I'm in knome 14:32
* slickymasterWork haves a read of what's already drafted in the pad14:32
Unit193Commas, commas.14:33
slickymasterWorklol knome 'noboby'14:40
slickymasterWorkok corrected that typo and add a paragraph to it14:40
flocculantbluesabre: see jjfrv8's comment ^^15:33
flocculantmight help narrow that down15:33
ochosievening19:45
knomehullo20:07
ochosianything important i missed lately?21:38
knomedon't think so21:41
Unit193ochosi: knome tried to take over again.21:43
knomeof course.21:43
ochosiUnit193: good good, that's the *plan* ;)21:53
Unit193Hrm, what're the terms on leadership positions again?21:54
knomewhat terms?21:56
knomeif you are referring to the debian liaison position, the terms are that you are a slave for the project and website leads.21:56
knomeyou mean term length?21:56
Unit193XPL one is pretty clear, didn't remember the lengths for the others.21:58
Unit193Also, not website, XTL.21:58
knomethe others are basically "as long as you are interested in doing it"21:58
knomeor practically, until there is several people who want to be it21:59
knomebut there is no set procedure for that21:59
Unit193Eg, never. :P21:59
knomei would imagine in that case we'd just put up a poll.21:59
knomewho knows, but so far it hasn't been a very realistic scenario22:00
knomealso, if somebody is doing something well, there's little need to replace them22:00
knomeif they aren't doing it well, or are willing to part with it, it's easy to bump22:00
knomelike me becoming the website lead and taking that hat from pleia222:00
ochosiyup, that'd have been my policy too22:00
ochosido-o-cracy22:01
knomethis isn't really something where newbies get involved22:01
ochosianyhow, off for tonight. night all!22:01
slickymasterhave a good one ochosi 22:02
knomenighty simon22:02
slickymasterbtw knome, did you saw my ping regarding the pad?22:04
Unit193https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/Beta1/ → Broken link, common infra.22:10
knomeslickymaster, i don't see an added paragraph?22:11
knomeor do we simply have the same color?22:11
knomeright22:11
knomesneaky!22:11
slickymasternot my fault22:12
knomehah22:12
knomeyou can change the color, you know?22:12
slickymasteryeah. but I didn't think it was so important22:13
knomeheh, not really22:13
knomebut it's hard to follow your changes if you have the same color22:13
knomeso i'd say it's best to make sure you don't22:13
knomefor example, if you weren't around now and i opened the pad with a different computer, i would have no way to notice the difference between my own and your edits22:14
slickymasterit's the seconf to last paragraph22:14
slickymaster* second22:14
knomei know22:15
knomei changed my own color22:15
knomebecause i am on the same computer, i can do that22:15
knomebut yeah, it looks good to me22:15
slickymasterok, I'll send it then22:16
knomeok22:16
knomeplease remember to change the XXX's this time22:16
knomeokay?22:16
slickymasterdamn, you have a memory like an elefant (and my ex) :P22:17
knomeare you saying your ex is (like) an elefant?22:17
knomeoh boy22:17
knomeno wonder she's your ex22:17
* knome hides22:17
slickymasterno, quite the opposite22:17
Unit193...You're an elefant?22:19
slickymasterI've been called worst22:20
knomeslickymaster, blue whale?22:20
slickymasterwill that make you my Ahab?22:21
knomewho knows22:21
slickymaster:P22:22
slickymasterknome, it doesn't make much sense saying "We also recommend everyone to join the Ubuntu-translators mailing list [2] to keep up with notifications about important translation template updates and to stay in touch with other Ubuntu translators.22:27
knomeokay22:28
slickymasterwhen we're email said list22:28
knometrue22:28
knomeit was you who added that though.22:28
slickymasteryeah, but then I noticed that it's meant for their m/l22:29
knome;)=22:29
slickymasterat the time I was convinced that we were drafting something for our media channels22:29
* knome facepalms22:30
knomewell,22:30
knomewe can craft something for them as well22:30
slickymasterwe've already have been doing that since the beginning of cycle22:31
slickymasterthe translators calls in -devel m/l22:31
knomei know22:32

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