[02:14] so much for me getting anything done this week [02:14] :D [02:14] I'll get some releases and uploads out this weekend [02:14] night all [07:55] something seems awry - create a new document - previously would open in mousepad - now wants to know what to open it with [08:07] would that be an xdg-utils problem? [08:08] the old testcases would have had us reporting against thunar [09:03] bluesabre: bug 1497170 and bug 1497175 all shiny and new [09:03] bug 1497170 in thunar (Ubuntu) "New file creation - not opening with file editor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497170 [09:03] bug 1497175 in thunar (Ubuntu) "File restore from wastebin not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497175 [09:04] not reported either on bugzilla just yet - make sure they're both thunar bugs before I do that [09:04] did both (and checked) in clean install to make sure it wasn't just local [09:05] obviously will report to bugzilla if we need that and link them [10:34] when is wily getting the wily help files? [10:34] before they freeze images next week? [10:34] hmm? [10:35] oh - so I guess you thought it had them already :) [10:35] what are you referring to with help files? [10:35] the help in the menu [10:35] flocculant: could be xdg-utils or exo [10:35] try using xdg-open and exo-open and see what happens with each [10:36] bluesabre: which is why I didn't bugzilla thunar pointlessly yet :) [10:36] flocculant, you are referring to the last change you did? [10:37] bluesabre: same for both - gives the 'what do you want to open this with?' dialogue [10:37] hmmm [10:37] knome: nope - not that at all, when you open help in wily you still get 15.04 docs [10:37] o.O [10:37] I think that's xdg then [10:37] one moment [10:38] * knome llooks [10:39] xubuntu-docs 15.04.2 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20150918/wily-desktop-amd64.manifest [10:39] bluesabre, insight on flocculant's question? [10:39] oh right [10:39] knome: I keep asking if you need an upload [10:39] :D [10:39] so we haven't just done an upload for this cycle yet [10:39] :D [10:39] well, i don't think it's a big issue, but sure, you can do one now if it isn't too much work [10:39] Might have been a good idea before string freeze. ;D [10:40] might have been - though i thought we had the string changes covered already [10:41] me too knome [10:41] bluesabre, let's do an upload now then [10:41] bluesabre, do you want me to handle the freeze exception paperwork? [10:41] and morning all [10:41] hello slickymasterWork [10:42] knome: please do since I'll be out most of the day, but can upload when I get home [10:42] oki [10:42] thanks [10:42] flocculant: if you choose a default, does it remember it? [10:42] I suppose the warning: failed to load external entity "C/translator-credits.xml" is fine? [10:43] knome: Unit193 can also upload if you want it earlier in the day [10:43] >_> [10:43] put that xubuntu-uploaders membership to use :D [10:43] bluesabre: yes it does - though the icon on desktop still seems the be the 'wth is this!' one :) [10:43] flocculant: yikes [10:44] yess [10:44] Unit193, yeah, it's just a warning - it's expected and ok [10:44] Figured, since C. Though kind of disagree. :D [10:44] bluesabre: http://i.imgur.com/aovACvT.png [10:45] flocculant: xdg-mime query filetype [10:45] properties - kind unknown [10:46] application/octet-stream [10:46] hmm [10:46] if you have a pre-wily vm somewhere, can you try the same? [10:46] almost feel useful today \o/ apart from making work for people lol [10:46] lol [10:47] bluesabre: ooh - might actually be able to do a 'while ago' vm [10:47] pretty sure its xdg-utils at fault, just trying to figure out which fix broke it [10:47] have one with ppa's I don't use much [10:47] lunch, bbl [10:48] flocculant: if its over a week old, it would probably have the older xdg [10:48] ok - so in there it works [10:49] 1.1.0~rc1-2ubuntu11 [10:49] does the xdg-mime command return something different? [10:49] http://paste.openstack.org/show/grsj2OKxSRjQkyMRlINo/ nice... [10:50] bluesabre: yep text/plain [10:50] there we go [10:50] so change that bug to xdg-utils ? [10:50] yup [10:50] and add a note about that [10:51] ok [10:51] !info xdg-utils unstable [10:51] xdg-utils (source: xdg-utils): desktop integration utilities from freedesktop.org. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.0~rc3+git20150907-2 (unstable), package size 66 kB, installed size 297 kB [10:51] !info xdg-utils wily [10:51] xdg-utils (source: xdg-utils): desktop integration utilities from freedesktop.org. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.0~rc3+git20150907-1ubuntu2 (wily), package size 56 kB, installed size 292 kB [10:51] thanks flocculant! [10:51] welcome [10:51] though that was just one of them :( [10:52] the thunar one is the same in the oldish vm [10:53] bluesabre: ok 0 changed that one and commented [10:55] bluesabre: so - boot ubuntu vm - try and restore from trash - same problem :) [10:56] so that's not thunar either \o/ [10:56] nice [10:56] so thats likely gvfs [10:56] gvfs! \o/ [11:00] knome: want to ack https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/+bug/1497228 before I nudge -release [11:00] Launchpad bug 1497228 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] shimmer-themes 2.0.2" [Undecided,New] [11:02] mmm so installing restore-trash and using that from cli works ok [11:02] bluesabre: shall I just move that bug from thunar to gvfs and let someone work out where it should be? [11:02] someone else ... [11:03] flocculant: yeah, that will get some eyes on it [11:03] yep - I'll whack it on the tracker too - for ubuntu and us :) [11:03] :D [11:04] flocculant: I'll see about adding a patched xdg-utils to -staging this weekend to see if that takes care of things [11:04] ok [11:10] nice - so both not us :) [11:10] unfortunately I can't make me read 15.10 for the help files :D [11:18] bluesabre, i wonder what kind of ack you want [11:18] knome: you're in docs, right? [11:18] bluesabre, also, if you didn't look at -release, you got the ack to upload docs now [11:18] oh right [11:19] done :P [11:19] thanks [11:19] now to remember how to upload docs [11:19] haha :P [11:19] :p [11:20] 3-4 times a year :D [11:21] * Unit193 wonders what's hard about uploading docs. [11:21] nothing [11:21] * knome shrugs [11:21] being silly [11:21] ;) [11:22] They even remembered to keep the changelog short or wrap it. :D [11:22] (Or I already fixed, either way. I may have poked..) [11:23] slickymasterWork, ping? [11:24] :D [11:24] running a test build, then will upload [11:24] pong knome [11:26] slickymasterWork, want to draft a mail for the ubuntu-translators list with me? [11:26] about the xubuntu docs [11:26] sure, but I was about to go lunch [11:26] can we do it after? [11:26] ok, let's do it after that [11:27] yep [11:27] great, I'll ping you when I arrive [11:27] bluesabre: bzr tag 15.10.0 ? :D [11:27] Unit193: I'll let knome do that, I'm not in the documentation team [11:28] I see you already ack https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/+bug/1497228 knome, so there's no need for me to put my hat on [11:28] Launchpad bug 1497228 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] shimmer-themes 2.0.2" [Undecided,New] [11:28] slickymasterWork, yep [11:28] bluesabre: I am, but wrong docs team. I still get some of the crappy Ubuntu bug mail, but no push rights. :D [11:28] :D [11:28] that might be my situation as well [11:29] bluesabre: sorry - I forgot to add that mime stuff to there ... [11:30] Also, new Core uploads. [11:31] flocculant: np [11:31] knome: docs uploaded [11:32] bluesabre, cheers :) [11:32] Unit193: are we actually likely to see core on cdimage this cycle ? [11:32] if not I'll move that to postponed ;) [11:32] flocculant: At the rate of the MP review? Sure! If you mean the XXX cycle... [11:32] :D [11:32] :D [11:36] * bluesabre gets ready for work [11:36] bbl, hf all [11:37] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/15.10.0 [11:37] cya bluesabre [11:50] slickymasterWork, http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-documentation-translations [12:51] flocculant, good catches on those two bugs! I confirmed them both. [12:52] Interesting thing was that I had a couple of files in Trash from a few days ago and they restored, but newly deleted ones don't. [14:32] and I'm in knome [14:32] * slickymasterWork haves a read of what's already drafted in the pad [14:33] Commas, commas. [14:40] lol knome 'noboby' [14:40] ok corrected that typo and add a paragraph to it [15:33] bluesabre: see jjfrv8's comment ^^ [15:33] might help narrow that down [19:45] evening [20:07] hullo [21:38] anything important i missed lately? [21:41] don't think so [21:43] ochosi: knome tried to take over again. [21:43] of course. [21:53] Unit193: good good, that's the *plan* ;) [21:54] Hrm, what're the terms on leadership positions again? [21:56] what terms? [21:56] if you are referring to the debian liaison position, the terms are that you are a slave for the project and website leads. [21:56] you mean term length? [21:58] XPL one is pretty clear, didn't remember the lengths for the others. [21:58] Also, not website, XTL. [21:58] the others are basically "as long as you are interested in doing it" [21:59] or practically, until there is several people who want to be it [21:59] but there is no set procedure for that [21:59] Eg, never. :P [21:59] i would imagine in that case we'd just put up a poll. [22:00] who knows, but so far it hasn't been a very realistic scenario [22:00] also, if somebody is doing something well, there's little need to replace them [22:00] if they aren't doing it well, or are willing to part with it, it's easy to bump [22:00] like me becoming the website lead and taking that hat from pleia2 [22:00] yup, that'd have been my policy too [22:01] do-o-cracy [22:01] this isn't really something where newbies get involved [22:01] anyhow, off for tonight. night all! [22:02] have a good one ochosi [22:02] nighty simon [22:04] btw knome, did you saw my ping regarding the pad? [22:10] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/Beta1/ → Broken link, common infra. [22:11] slickymaster, i don't see an added paragraph? [22:11] or do we simply have the same color? [22:11] right [22:11] sneaky! [22:12] not my fault [22:12] hah [22:12] you can change the color, you know? [22:13] yeah. but I didn't think it was so important [22:13] heh, not really [22:13] but it's hard to follow your changes if you have the same color [22:13] so i'd say it's best to make sure you don't [22:14] for example, if you weren't around now and i opened the pad with a different computer, i would have no way to notice the difference between my own and your edits [22:14] it's the seconf to last paragraph [22:14] * second [22:15] i know [22:15] i changed my own color [22:15] because i am on the same computer, i can do that [22:15] but yeah, it looks good to me [22:16] ok, I'll send it then [22:16] ok [22:16] please remember to change the XXX's this time [22:16] okay? [22:17] damn, you have a memory like an elefant (and my ex) :P [22:17] are you saying your ex is (like) an elefant? [22:17] oh boy [22:17] no wonder she's your ex [22:17] * knome hides [22:17] no, quite the opposite [22:19] ...You're an elefant? [22:20] I've been called worst [22:20] slickymaster, blue whale? [22:21] will that make you my Ahab? [22:21] who knows [22:22] :P [22:27] knome, it doesn't make much sense saying "We also recommend everyone to join the Ubuntu-translators mailing list [2] to keep up with notifications about important translation template updates and to stay in touch with other Ubuntu translators. [22:28] okay [22:28] when we're email said list [22:28] true [22:28] it was you who added that though. [22:29] yeah, but then I noticed that it's meant for their m/l [22:29] ;)= [22:29] at the time I was convinced that we were drafting something for our media channels [22:30] * knome facepalms [22:30] well, [22:30] we can craft something for them as well [22:31] we've already have been doing that since the beginning of cycle [22:31] the translators calls in -devel m/l [22:32] i know