| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:22 |
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| clivejo | ahoneybun ahoneybun_ : ping | 10:43 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:53 |
| clivejo | hi BluesKaj | 11:53 |
| BluesKaj | hi clivejo | 11:54 |
| clivejo | doing good? | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, fine here, clivejo, and you? | 12:00 |
| clivejo | tired | 12:00 |
| clivejo | and pbuilder is being awkward today | 12:03 |
| BluesKaj | clivejo, have you heard anything about wayland for 16.04, or has anyone else ? | 13:25 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: depends on kde really. At debconf I managed to run kate in kwin_wayland nested in an xwayland session. Worked mostly except the dialogs being rendered in wrong positions. | 15:07 |
| yofel | We're getting there, slowly.. | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, ok , nice to hear it's being experimented with | 15:09 |
| soee | yofel: but popups/dialogs have been fixed in last days by Martin i think | 15:18 |
| soee | he posted about this on g+ i think | 15:18 |
| yofel | \o/ | 15:18 |
| soee | BluesKaj, yofel: worth checking http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=KDE-Wayland-Rapid-Progress | 15:39 |
| soee | lol @ results http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-OpenGL-Image-Settings | 15:42 |
| BluesKaj | soee, thanks , good to know that nouveau is being upgraded some and I always suspect that the nvidia "performance slider" didn't do much :-) | 15:52 |
| BluesKaj | suspected even | 15:53 |
| soee | :D | 15:53 |
| ahoneybun | well I'm too late for clivejo lol | 15:53 |
| BluesKaj | I imagine full wayland development will be in force for 16.10 since 16.04 is LTS | 15:55 |
| clivejo | BluesKaj: With Plasma 5.4 the first technology preview of a Wayland session is released. On systems with free graphics drivers it is possible to run Plasma using KWin, Plasma's Wayland compositor and X11 window manager, through kernel mode settings. - https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.4.0.php | 18:43 |
| clivejo | still a bit to go, but its being worked on :) | 18:44 |
| BluesKaj | clivejo, yeah, looks promising, thanks :-) | 19:05 |
| clivejo | soee: ping | 19:12 |
| clivejo | anyone else testing frameworks? | 19:14 |
| soee | clivejo: i think they were tested already | 19:20 |
| clivejo | you mentioned that it crashed? | 19:21 |
| soee | for me they work fine (just kdeinit5 and krunner crash during upgrade) | 19:21 |
| soee | but they restated themself | 19:21 |
| clivejo | seems to be problems with kservice | 19:21 |
| clivejo | and I see there is an update | 19:21 |
| soee | after upgrade to 5.14 application dashoard lost favs list | 19:21 |
| soee | that is all i noticed | 19:22 |
| clivejo | you upgraded to 15.08.1 apps? | 19:22 |
| clivejo | oh misread | 19:22 |
| clivejo | there is a kservice 15.14.3 now | 19:23 |
| clivejo | I wonder should I package that and put it into the staging ppa? | 19:24 |
| soee | it is part of apps ? | 19:33 |
| soee | i is not | 19:33 |
| soee | 15.14.3 ot 5.14. ? | 19:33 |
| clivejo | framework | 19:39 |
| clivejo | http://download.kde.org/stable/frameworks/5.14/ | 19:39 |
| soee | ask yofel or Riddell ^ | 19:40 |
| soee | they are some updated version of 5.14 line it seems | 19:40 |
| soee | so i think it should be packaged | 19:41 |
| soee | but i'm not packager :) | 19:41 |
| * clivejo thinks soee should learn :P | 19:41 | |
| soee | ot her is a lot of think i want to learn :) | 19:42 |
| soee | lol, "there is a lot of things i want to learn" | 19:42 |
| clivejo | soee: like what? | 19:59 |
| clivejo | hi sick_rimmit | 20:59 |
| Mamarok | currently Wiley beta still says "thank you for choosing Kubuntu 15.04" when installing, has this already been changed? | 23:34 |
| valorie | good catch | 23:35 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: ^^^ | 23:35 |
| valorie | how are you, Mamarok? | 23:36 |
| Mamarok | valorie: not that bad, thanks. How about you? | 23:37 |
| valorie | pretty good | 23:37 |
| valorie | diving into that sticky kde-community ML stuff | 23:37 |
| valorie | after avoiding it for a couple of days | 23:37 |
| Mamarok | I should be sleeping, instead I isntall Wiley in VBox to test | 23:37 |
| Mamarok | oh, the bikeshed :) | 23:38 |
| Mamarok | epic, probably the worst in ages | 23:38 |
| valorie | right, I've been neglectful | 23:38 |
| valorie | although I'm not a listowner there | 23:38 |
| Mamarok | open a can of worms... | 23:39 |
| valorie | but bikeshed threads should be moderated, IMO | 23:39 |
| Mamarok | nah, pointless, they are probably entertaining themselves | 23:39 |
| Mamarok | Martin is deeply regretting to have come up with the suggestion in the first place to make that mirror | 23:39 |
| Mamarok | btw, which VM solution do you guys use, VBox or VMware? | 23:42 |
| Mamarok | I can't get any 3D acceleration in either | 23:42 |
| valorie | I think mirroring to github is an excellent idea | 23:43 |
| Mamarok | yes. as long as it is really just that, a mirror | 23:43 |
| valorie | visibility = good | 23:43 |
| Mamarok | but that opens a whole other can of worms | 23:43 |
| valorie | right, which is what he proposed | 23:43 |
| valorie | and what was implemented | 23:43 |
| valorie | and plans are to mirror other places as well | 23:44 |
| valorie | if requested | 23:44 |
| Mamarok | yes, but now all sort of ideas come in with wether they should allow pull requests, which is just the abse of the problem | 23:44 |
| valorie | right | 23:44 |
| valorie | to me, separate issue | 23:45 |
| Mamarok | and that is totally unhealthy and dividng | 23:45 |
| Mamarok | not at all, it was clear from teh start it should only be a mirror, those wanting to allow pull requersts are overstretching it | 23:45 |
| valorie | well, I started at the beginning, and very early the suggestion was to allow this if the devels were willing to oversee it and do the commits/review process | 23:46 |
| Mamarok | as I said, open a can of worms | 23:46 |
| valorie | obviously! | 23:47 |
| Mamarok | the initial thread was clear that it should only be a mirror on which all invloved agreed, allowing pull requests divides and forces some to use a non-free tool | 23:47 |
| valorie | I think I have a few hundred emails to read | 23:47 |
| Mamarok | but you can see where the opportunists are ... | 23:48 |
| Mamarok | and my mail didn't help as those who read it didn't understand | 23:48 |
| valorie | I don't want to write without reading all of it | 23:49 |
| valorie | so I may not comment until tomorrow | 23:49 |
| * Mamarok tried to point to how easy it is to use our infratructure, no need to use something else | 23:49 | |
| valorie | tonight, I'm visiting my dad, then watching the new Doctor Who ep | 23:49 |
| Mamarok | valorie: I think we should all stop commenting, I give up on that, as the opportunists want their thing and will try to get it over everybody else's head | 23:49 |
| valorie | right, I'm not sure those early comments about how to make our infra more discoverable and easier to use have been implemented | 23:50 |
| Mamarok | hoily cow, VBox, what in the "use external HD" didn't you understand? | 23:50 |
| Mamarok | it's installing in my home :( | 23:50 |
| Mamarok | I am not a dev and I can use all our tools quite easily, so if I can, everybody can, and it is discoverable without the slightest doubt for those able to use Google | 23:51 |
| Mamarok | but that's where the problem is, most are just too lazy to learn how to search | 23:51 |
| Mamarok | let alone get an indetity account and read docs | 23:51 |
| valorie | well, we were disabling spiders | 23:51 |
| valorie | not sure if we still are | 23:51 |
| valorie | newbies may think that everything is at github | 23:52 |
| Mamarok | that has nbothing to do with disabling search engines, it is easy to find from our main website | 23:52 |
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| Mamarok | well, newbies who thing everything is on Github are just that: newbies, they have still a lot to learn | 23:52 |
| Mamarok | and seriously, peoplke who think everything is on Github ar idiots | 23:53 |
| Mamarok | Github is a tiny fraction (mirrors not included) of what Free Software thewre is out there | 23:54 |
| Mamarok | and esepcially since the sourceforge debacle everybody should know why proprietary hosters should be avoided | 23:55 |
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