[00:15] <elkepon> hi
[00:16] <elkepon> why firefox is not syncing? I uninstall it and install it again and nothing, is there any bug reported?
[00:58] <Userper> hi all, running Unity/Ubuntu 15.04. Tried to install KDE Plasma 5.4 using the backports PPA but ended up getting 5.3.2....how can I update it to 5.4?
[01:27] <mparillo> I think 5.4 (actually 5.4.1) is only in the wily repos.
[01:28] <mparillo> Let me google.
[01:29] <mparillo> Yes, I think this is the latest for 15.04: http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-532-and-frameworks-5120-backported-kubuntu-1504/
[02:38] <Guest17870> I just installed 15.04, and there is a bright blue spot when you hover your mouse near the upper left quadrant. How to disable this?
[03:52] <ocnios> Can someone use my nick in a message I want to test something.
[03:56] <ocnios> Anyone here use Konversation?
[04:04] <billy__> quassel on kde here
[05:19] <ocnios> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/AlphaBlue?content=171411
[05:19] <ocnios> ^ My first custom splash screen.
[07:22] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:32] <pragomer1> Hi. How can I change the size of my kde-launchers: http://snag.gy/KoSgN.jpg    1. is too big.. its when I choose "add to panel".....    2. is too small... its when I choose "create a starter"..         How can I get some well-sized icons?
[10:25] <svend-ev> Good morning
[10:34] <mparillo> ocnios: Good morning
[10:36] <mparillo> Does this change the launcher size: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=141623
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:56] <sensei> I upgraded to 15.10 and umm my desktop is black like here https://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=92300 i've basically tried removing every config (.kde .cache .config/k*) file and purged kubuntu/kde yet still it's like that after reinstalling :D
[11:58] <lordievader> sensei: Can you access krunner?
[11:58] <sensei> yup
[11:59] <lordievader> sensei: Execute: kquitapp plasmashell; kstart plasmashell
[12:01] <sensei> lordievader it flashes white and it's black again. would you like to see pastebin of kstart plasmashell from konsole?
[12:02] <lordievader> sensei: Hmm, try 'kwin_x11 --replace' in krunner.
[12:03] <sensei> http://pastebin.com/ds8ReDKD here it is anyway :) some qml errors...
[12:06] <sensei> lordievader flashes and back again. Kind of funny that Desktop effects/3D accel works fine :D but all is black
[12:07] <lordievader> sensei: Make a new user and see if that one has the same problem.
[12:07] <sensei> tried already and yup it has!
[12:08] <lordievader> Hmm, interesting. It ain't the kde config.
[12:08] <lordievader> sensei: What graphics card and driver are you using>?
[12:09] <sensei> im using stock mesa and card is hd8450g. same behavior with fglrx.
[12:11] <lordievader> sensei: What is the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A3 VGA'?
[12:11] <sensei> gnome and unity works fine, maybe some file permission issue...
[12:15] <sensei> lordievader: http://pastebin.com/xAEEnZXg
[12:16] <lordievader> sensei: What version of plasma are you running? 5.4 I guess?
[12:16] <sensei> yeah 5.4 it is. With 15.04 + plasma 5.3 it used to work great :)
[12:18] <lordievader> Hmm, odd...
[12:22] <sensei> yeah :D bizarre
[12:23] <lordievader> I must say I am quite out of ideas...
[12:39] <anon__> hi. each restart, firefox is not capable of recovering the session. always starting with the "well, this is emberrassing" page. anyone has this?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> anon__, sometimes after leaving FF open when shutting down and booting up the next day, Think it results from FF starting before the internet is connected and saving a session with an open browser will cause this message.
[12:45] <anon__> BluesKaj: right, i want to leave eveything open for the next reboot. what can we do about that? also, dolphin does not even restart
[12:47] <BluesKaj> anon__, perhaps just put the pc to sleep rather than shut down, is this an option?
[12:48] <anon__> BluesKaj: well, kinda. im not sure how power efficient this is. i usually did not no it this way.
[12:49] <anon__> BluesKaj: also, there is a restart for updates every now and then anyway
[12:49] <BluesKaj> anon__, investigate the options for your machine , especially if it's a laptop
[12:50] <lordievader> anon__: Compared to full on, standby uses very little power.
[12:50] <lordievader> Essentially only the ram is powered.
[12:51] <lordievader> If power really is an issue you could look into hibernation. With hibernation the entire contents of your ram are written to swap.
[12:51] <anon__> what about danger? leaving something on when im away kinda makes me nervous^^
[12:53] <lordievader> What dangers?
[12:54] <anon__> fire maybe... read ppls houses burned down even from a TV on standby. i know odds are very low, dont laugh
[12:55] <lordievader> Yes, they are very low.
[12:55] <lordievader> Chances of your house burning down while the pc is full on is a lot higher. And still rather low.
[12:56] <anon__> sure, but thats why i shut it down when away. but i see the point
[12:58] <anon__> thing is, even for KDE, the boot is so quick, it make suspending kinde obsoltete
[12:58] <lordievader> You've pointed out one advantange when you came in. Session is kept alive.
[13:00] <anon__> i would like to keep it with using session restore, but firefox does not play nicely and dolpnin gets ignored
[15:43] <JunkHunk> hello people, I recently bought a new screen, it comes with tiny speakers, I would like to use them together with the old front speakers...but pavucontrol does not seem to offer that possibility...am I wrong? how could I use all the speakers at the same time?
[15:45] <JunkHunk> it is a hdmi screen...so now I have two sound input methods...
[15:46] <soee> input or output
[15:46] <soee> ?
[15:46] <JunkHunk> the tiny speakers use the hdmi connection..the desktop ones the regular sound input
[15:46] <JunkHunk> but pavucontrol only allows me to use one or another
[15:47] <JunkHunk> not both
[15:47] <JunkHunk> soee output your right
[15:47] <JunkHunk> you're
[15:47] <JunkHunk> I am not using any mic
[15:49] <soee> JunkHunk: so you can change output ant you have working standalone or integrated spikers but not both at once?
[15:49] <JunkHunk> yep
[15:49] <JunkHunk> I would like them all to listen to music
[15:49] <JunkHunk> :-)
[15:49] <soee> well i can't help much here as i never had such configuration :/
[15:50] <JunkHunk> I have no amplifier...but I don't think it is needed here...
[15:50] <JunkHunk> there must be a way to use both sound channels
[15:51] <JunkHunk> I ll ask in ubuntu irc
[15:58] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, which audio chip?
[16:15] <JunkHunk> hey at ubuntu irc a guy found the solution to the simultaneous sound: http://askubuntu.com/questions/78174/play-sound-through-two-or-more-outputs-devices
[16:15] <JunkHunk> but I don't know how to enable that in kubuntu...
[16:15] <JunkHunk> sound preferences are different
[16:18] <JunkHunk> I am using vlc for phonon
[16:18] <JunkHunk> any idea?
[16:19] <JunkHunk> hmmm
[16:20] <JunkHunk> indeed they are working at the same time.. because when I test speakers I am using screen hdmi speakers to listen to music...and I hear both
[16:20] <JunkHunk> I guess I only need to tell the amarok application to use both channels?
[16:21] <soee> i doubt amarok has anything to do with it
[16:21] <JunkHunk> I used pavucontrol to do that but...it only let me choose one or another
[16:21] <JunkHunk> pavucontrol lists applications using audio
[16:21] <JunkHunk> and you can choose channel
[16:21] <JunkHunk> for all of them
[16:22] <KSX> guys, how do i format a usb drive?
[16:22] <JunkHunk> gparted
[16:22] <JunkHunk> is the best for me
[16:22] <JunkHunk> it never fails
[16:23] <JunkHunk> and you can choose format type
[16:23] <KSX> i tried gparted, and it failed
[16:23] <JunkHunk> lol
[16:23] <JunkHunk> what is the usb for?
[16:23] <JunkHunk> windows?
[16:23] <soee> or command line but i can remember what it was
[16:23] <soee> KSX: and kde-partition-manager ?
[16:24] <KSX> i wanted to use the usb for office work, i used it before to install kubuntu
[16:24] <BluesKaj> so JunkHunk did you see my question a while ago ? Which audio chip ?
[16:24] <JunkHunk> for windows I used winusb and worked for me...
[16:24] <JunkHunk> BluesKaj,  chip?
[16:24] <KSX> http://dpaste.com/14FEDHZ
[16:24] <JunkHunk> onion and  garlic
[16:24] <BluesKaj> look inthe upper right in alsamixer
[16:24] <BluesKaj> or left rather
[16:25] <JunkHunk> alsa mixer what is that=?
[16:26] <KSX> i just wanted to format the stick
[16:26] <JunkHunk> still a kubuntu noob
[16:26] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, if it's intel you don't need pulseaudio , phonon can work directly with al;sa instead
[16:27] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, type alsamixer in the terminal
[16:27] <JunkHunk> oooh
[16:27] <JunkHunk> cool
[16:28] <BluesKaj> what card and chip?
[16:28] <JunkHunk> still awe
[16:28] <JunkHunk> HDA ATI SB
[16:28] <JunkHunk> Realtek ALC887-VD
[16:31] <user_> Hi
[16:32] <JunkHunk> BluesKaj,  it seems I do need pulseaudio
[16:33] <user_> How do I change my launcher icon, the icon on the buttom left. The one with the K and cog?
[16:34] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, open the terminal and type  or copy and paste this ,  cat /proc/asound/modules
[16:37] <JunkHunk> 0 snd_hda_intel
[16:37] <JunkHunk>  1 snd_hda_intel
[16:38] <JunkHunk> BluesKaj the alsamixer was not working...
[16:38] <JunkHunk> it made no effect
[16:39] <JunkHunk> I guess because I am using hdmi connection to listen to music
[16:40] <JunkHunk> yep
[16:40] <JunkHunk> it is working with desktop speakers
[16:40] <JunkHunk> screen ones disabled
[16:41] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, those commands aren't supposed to do anything , they're just for info ...now that we know you have the intel-hda audio module we can get rid of pulseaudio and you can get all your speakers working simultaneously
[16:42] <JunkHunk> okay...
[16:42] <JunkHunk> how?
[16:45] <JunkHunk> pulseaudio is...a Doraimon
[16:45] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils
[16:45] <JunkHunk> okay?
[16:45] <JunkHunk> and then what?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> copy and paste that command into the terminal and run it
[16:46] <JunkHunk> fingers crossed
[16:46] <JunkHunk> done
[16:47] <JunkHunk> reboot?
[16:48] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk,  do you have pavucontrol installed too?
[16:48] <JunkHunk> yes
[16:49] <Byron_> Did anyone see my question?
[16:49] <JunkHunk> billocations are outdated lord
[16:49] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, sudo apt-get purge pavucontrol
[16:49] <JunkHunk> ouch
[16:50] <JunkHunk> I love pavucontrol
[16:50] <JunkHunk> :-(
[16:51] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, it's part of pulseaudio which must be purged so it no longer interferes with your audio outputs
[16:52] <JunkHunk> okay
[16:52] <JunkHunk> done
[16:52] <JunkHunk> now what?=
[16:52] <BluesKaj> rebnoot
[16:52] <JunkHunk> okay
[16:52] <JunkHunk> see you in a min
[16:58] <Byron_> Guess not... Sorry to be a bother.
[17:19] <BluesKaj> ok, stuff to do for 45 mins or so...BBL
[17:20] <marcofe> hello guys...anyone do run into issue "Couldn't load XPCOM."?
[17:21] <ocnios> marcofe: when doing what
[17:29] <marcofe> when trying to launch mdc
[17:29] <marcofe> ocnios: hello and thank you for your answer
[17:31] <JunkHunk> BluesKaj, after rebooting I went making a pie, sorry for the delay...now I see this in audio preferences: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=93279
[17:32] <JunkHunk> which should I use to enable all the speakers?
[17:34] <JunkHunk> BluesKaj, alsa perhaps?
[17:47] <JunkHunk> hello people BluesKaj might be having tea...the point is he told me to get rid of pulse audio to get all my speakers working simultaneously...I did and they aren't this is the ubuntu thread I would like to reproduce in kubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/78174/play-sound-through-two-or-more-outputs-devices
[17:48] <JunkHunk> where in kubuntu may I find that "simultaneous output to hd audio controller"?
[17:49] <austin6598> can someone share a sources.list file running kubuntu 15.04?
[17:53] <austin6598> im getting errors: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/b3l1Jb4J/
[17:54] <ocnios> marcofe: try 'sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-gtk'
[17:58] <ocnios> austin6598: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:59] <austin6598> ocnios https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ghFrdZ2x/
[18:03] <ocnios> austin6598: http://hastebin.com/nutenacinu.hs
[18:04] <austin6598> ocnios https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/z5IvGcG4/
[18:13] <ocnios> is this a fresh install?
[18:14] <austin6598> no i upgraded to the latest kde and it had 7 broken packages so i tried to fix it and now its worse :/
[18:14] <austin6598> i think i deleted an important repo
[18:16] <BluesKaj> ok JunkHunk, open alsamixer ,l and enable your spdif/digital output which feeds the hdmi out and the front vol ctrl for the analog out to your speakers
[18:16] <JunkHunk> oh
[18:16] <JunkHunk> welcome back
[18:17] <BluesKaj> was doing some errands
[18:18] <ocnios> austin6598: hmm looks like it
[18:18] <JunkHunk> I cannot find spdif/digital output
[18:19] <austin6598> ocnios> how do i fix it?
[18:19] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, make sure there is no MM (mute) in any ctls including pcm and spdif, use the M key to disable mute and disable the automute as well
[18:20] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, spdif is a small box , probly on the far right
[18:20] <ocnios> austin6598: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ might help you
[18:23] <JunkHunk> BluesKaj still no sound
[18:24] <ocnios> austin6598: my sources.list file is at http://ge.tt/7UTTzBO2/v/0
[18:24] <ocnios> you can overwrite yours on /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:24] <ocnios> or....
[18:25] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, can you take a screenshot of alsamixer and post it on imagebin or imgur
[18:25] <JunkHunk> gladly
[18:25] <ocnios> austin6598: http://hastebin.com/zimihohugi.avrasm
[18:26] <ocnios> I'd back yours up by appending .old before you do these things
[18:28] <JunkHunk> BluesKaj, http://imagebin.ca/v/2GDJWdANhsuj
[18:30] <JunkHunk> BluesKaj,  should I be able to manage the screen speakers with alsamixer?
[18:35] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, the PCM and spdif out should be feeding the hdmi audio part to your screen ..one thing you can try is reload the driver, in the terminal , sudo modrobe snd-hda-intel, then reboot.
[18:38] <ocnios> austin6598: get it fixed?
[18:41] <JunkHunk> BluesKaj,  it didnt work
[18:41] <JunkHunk> :-(
[18:41] <JunkHunk> and now I cannot even choose
[18:41] <JunkHunk> only desktop speakers working
[18:42] <JunkHunk> and it was modprobe there was a typo
[18:43] <BluesKaj> yeah sorry
[18:43] <JunkHunk> never mind
[18:43] <BluesKaj> odd because I have a similar setup
[18:44] <JunkHunk> thanks for the help
[18:44] <JunkHunk> at least the pie was a great success
[18:44] <JunkHunk> :-)
[18:44] <JunkHunk> and desktop speakers are the best ones
[18:44] <JunkHunk> I can skip screen ones
[18:47] <austin6598> ocnios> no do you have any suggestions?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> well JunkHunk you canm go mback to using pulseaudio if you want , there might be a way to configure using that
[18:48] <ocnios> austin6598: I have you 3 more options to fix it
[18:48] <austin6598> ok
[18:48] <ocnios> I gave you my sources.list file...
[18:48] <ocnios> s/have/gave
[18:48] <ocnios> austin6598: my sources.list file is at http://ge.tt/7UTTzBO2/v/0
[18:48] <ocnios> or....
[18:49] <ocnios> austin6598: http://hastebin.com/zimihohugi.avrasm
[18:49] <BluesKaj> austin6598, did you sudo apt update after adding his sources?
[18:49] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1194rKrV/
[18:50] <ocnios> austin6598: your /path/to/sources is wrong
[18:50] <ocnios> your terminal is at destop/
[18:50] <ocnios> you need to: cd ../../ to username$
[18:51] <ocnios> or just drag and drop the file through the gui
[18:51] <austin6598> no my pc name is austin-desktop
[18:52] <BluesKaj> austin6598, the path is /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:52] <austin6598> ok
[18:52] <ocnios> try sudo mv ./etc/apt/sources.lst ./etc/apt/sources.old
[18:52] <austin6598> mv: cannot stat ‘/etc/apt/sources.lst’: No such file or directory
[18:53] <ocnios> or in terminal do a 'dir' command and make sure you see /etc/ listed
[18:53] <ocnios> if you don't you're in the wrong CWD
[18:53] <austin6598> is the file .list not .lst?
[18:53] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/68IyoiSZ/
[18:53] <ocnios> sources.list is the name of the sources file
[18:54] <ocnios> If you're at austin@Austin-Desktop:/etc/apt$
[18:54] <ocnios> mv ./sources.list ./sources.old
[18:55] <ocnios> probably need to sudo that
[18:55] <austin6598> ok did it
[18:55] <ocnios> now sudo apt-get update
[18:57] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/UeQmB4hM/
[19:07] <ocnios> austin6598:  if you put my sources.list file in your /etc/apt/ directoy and you still get errors on 'sudo apt-get update' you can try sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[19:08] <ocnios> then sudo apt-get update
[19:09] <BluesKaj> ocnios, isn't that proposed repos a bit dangerous ?
[19:10] <ocnios> BluesKaj: Yes, hence the 'if you still get errors after the 10 things we've tried' and it can always be removed after it's discovered if it is/isn't a fix
[19:11] <ocnios> Though I wouldn't call it 'dangerous'
[19:13] <BluesKaj> depends on the the packages, but I know it's not recommended for normal setups that want to remain stable
[19:13] <ocnios> If my sources.list file doesn't fix austin6598's issue then there is some package installed on their system that is from a custom ppa
[19:25] <austin6598> ocnios https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/13VO10VQ/
[19:27] <BluesKaj> austin6598, post your sources.list
[19:27] <BluesKaj> not the update
[19:29] <austin6598> i used the one he gave me https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QhUx1AhK/sources.list
[19:31] <ocnios> This might help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249736
[19:33] <austin6598> not really sure what im supposed to do
[19:35] <ocnios> scratch that actually austin6598 you can ignore my most recent link to ubuntuforums
[19:35] <austin6598> ok
[19:39] <austin6598> ocnios: what now?
[19:39] <ocnios> try sudo apt-get update || sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:41] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/YjeFC5Wv/
[19:41] <ocnios> sudo apt-get update || sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:42] <austin6598> lol i wrote try XD
[19:43] <ocnios> no worries it happens
[19:43] <ocnios> i do have to run in about 15 minutes though
[19:43] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/gToyV6sF/
[19:49] <ocnios> You might want to ask in #ubuntu as the issue is with `http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists` and I have to run shortly
[19:49] <ocnios> Just paste the last pastebin you did in here in there
[19:49] <ocnios> the link
[19:53] <ocnios> austin6598: 91.189.88.151 responds to ping at least. might be something that was moved
[19:55] <ocnios> http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/vivid-proposed/ exists but http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/vivid-proposed/dists/ does not
[21:00] <mikkle> anyone getting plasma crashes in wily?
[21:00] <mikkle> intel hardware
[21:01] <mikkle> plasma 5.4.1
[21:03] <coc_towlie> how do i clear recent documents from plasma?
[21:03] <coc_towlie> when i right click it only give me option to clear recent applications
[21:56] <chrism> im currently usiing linux mint, would i see any perfomance or otherwise improvements with switching over kubuntu
[21:57] <chrism> *using
[21:58] <bprompt> hmm
[21:58] <bprompt> chrism:   not sure, haven't myself, but LinuxMint is really just Ubuntu distribution, and their selling point is, "lighter overhead" or faster
[22:00] <bprompt> chrism:   bear in mind that, if  you drive a car without chasis and brakes and seats, is "lighter" and "faster", then again, seats and chassis and brakes and windows, are features you'd want, they add overhead, yes, but that's overhead you'd want
[22:02] <bprompt> chrism:    so.. sometimes, lighter may translate to features-deficient, it doesn't have to, but sometimes it does, dunno where LinuxMint would fall on that, using Kubuntu, it'd be with more overhead I'd think, but may have the features, and drivers, you'd want though, so the extra overhead, maybe overhead you'd want
[22:02] <Eburitus> I'm trying to change to KDE (Kubuntu) from fluxbox but can't find the "executable" of KDE. I have changed to greeter but it still executes fluxbox from .xinitrc
[22:02] <chrism> to be honest i'm new to linux altogether, i got sick of windows as it was so slow on my laptop. whereas linux seems to run sweet as a nut. but there's so many distros i want to experiment and find one thats best for me
[22:03] <bprompt> chrism:    windows is pretty good IMO, so depends, if it ran slow, could have been due to many reasons, not necessarily the OS itself, there are ways to "tune it up" though, there are ways to tune up any OS for that matter, and *nix, can and does get slow, depending on many factors
[22:04] <chrism> what do you mean by overhead?? sorry for my lack of knowledge lol
[22:04] <bprompt> Eburitus:    executable for kde?   what are you trying to load? the kde window manager?  kde is just a framework
[22:05] <bprompt> chrism:    overhead, things to spend (cost), before making profits
[22:06] <bprompt> chrism:    in OS context, that'd be memory footprint
[22:06] <chrism> too be honest my version of windows was bogged down with lots of unwanted software. i could have took the time to speed it up but instead opeted
[22:07] <chrism> opt'd to try something different
[22:08] <bprompt> chrism:    well, same is true for linux btw, you can, install lots of unwanted stuff as well
[22:10] <chrism> yeah thats true i suppose, my laptop was owned by my girlfriends brother before i got it and he had it loaded with so much garbage it was unbelievably slow
[22:10] <bprompt> chrism:    how fast is the cpu?
[22:13] <chrism> Intel Pentium 2.2GHz
[22:15] <bprompt> chrism:   single core? dual core?
[22:15] <chrism> dual core
[22:53] <valorie> Eburitus: how did you install fluxbox?
[22:54] <valorie> unless it was on a base of ubuntu, you'll need to install kubuntu, not just add the desktop and applications
[22:54] <valorie> and if you have a big drive, you can install it alongside if you like, rather than replacing
[22:54] <valorie> !dualboot
[22:55] <valorie> that goes for linux distros as well
[22:55] <valorie> afaik, fluxbox is a WM, not a distro
[22:59] <Eburitus> valorie: i can't remember how i installed fluxbox. just that i needed to fiddle with .xinputrc. what it comes to kde, i installed kubuntu-desktop through apt-get like fluxbox allso but can't remember more specific about fluxbox
[22:59] <Eburitus> valorie: you are right. fluxbox is just WM.
[23:00] <Eburitus> valorie: I now fiddled more with .xinputrc and after distro-upgrade is finished I'll try to execute KDE as WM again.
[23:01] <bprompt> Eburitus:     what DM are you using?   kde DM?  because that one, gives you a choice of "WM session" right off the login screen, and you can pick Fluxbox or kde or whatever else, you can have many WM and all of them would be listed there, at the login screen, and you can pick whichever you wish
[23:03] <Eburitus> bprompt: i have tried to use it to select WM but only WM that works, is fluxbox. others give me error: "call to lnusertemp faild (temporary directories full?)"
[23:04] <leedos_kidaslon_> howdy evrrbody
[23:06] <bprompt> Eburitus:   sounds like something if off with the installation of the others then
[23:06] <Eburitus> propably
[23:07] <Eburitus> i have a bad habit of fiddling my own things with installations
[23:08] <leedos_kidaslon_> Hey guys idk if you want to disclose this, but what os do you use? made a poll for this http://strawpoll.me/5531594
[23:27] <elkepon> hi, anyone can help to install wine? I'm new to linux
[23:28] <elkepon> ?
[23:28] <Eburitus> are you familiar with apt-get or aptitude?
[23:29] <bprompt> hmm I don't have it myself... but, run the Muon Software Center or the Muon Package Manager
[23:29] <bprompt> elkepon:   I don't have it myself... but, run the Muon Software Center or the Muon Package Manager
[23:29] <Eburitus> elkepon: https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/Install_KDE_software#Ubuntu.2FKubuntu
[23:30] <KSX> how do i install openbox?
[23:30] <elkepon> bprompt: it is not in the software center
[23:31] <bprompt> elkepon:   ok... then check Muon Package Manager, that list is longer
[23:31] <leedos_kidaslon_> I'd recommend installing playonlinux rather than wine for elkepon, because if he has trouble installing software configuring wine might be a bit hard
[23:31] <bprompt> KSX:    same, install it from Muon Software Center :)
[23:32] <Eburitus> KSX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox
[23:32] <KSX> k, thx
[23:33] <elkepon> thanks leedos_kidaslon_
[23:33] <KSX> its not in the repo
[23:34] <leedos_kidaslon_> https://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
[23:34] <leedos_kidaslon_> just click on ubuntu and its all detailed
[23:35] <elkepon> look
[23:35] <elkepon> when I add the repo this is what it says once I try to install it: https://paste.kde.org/prcbayq5l
[23:36] <elkepon> what's happening?
[23:37] <leedos_kidaslon_> you tried to install chrome before
[23:37] <leedos_kidaslon_> that is a no no since its not in the official repo
[23:37] <leedos_kidaslon_> try to run apt-get -f install but let me know what it wants you to remove
[23:37] <elkepon> I actually have google chrome installed
[23:37] <elkepon> do I uninstall it?
[23:38] <elkepon> and what is better? playonlinux or wine?
[23:38] <leedos_kidaslon_> chrome or choromium/srware iron?
[23:38] <leedos_kidaslon_> playonlinux and don't uninstall unless there is a problem with runing apt-get -f install
[23:39] <leedos_kidaslon_> playonlinux allows you to manage different types of win within the same program for different virtual drives. Its uber convinient as compared to normal wine
[23:39] <leedos_kidaslon_> wine**
[23:39] <elkepon> ok
[23:39] <elkepon> by the way what is -f for?  when you include it before install
[23:39] <elkepon> like:
[23:40] <elkepon> sudo apt-get -f install
[23:40] <elkepon> force?
[23:41] <elkepon> leedos_kidaslon_:
[23:41] <bprompt> elkepon:    more like "fix", and you can have it on either side -> sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get install -f
[23:41] <leedos_kidaslon_> yeah force
[23:42] <leedos_kidaslon_> sorry I'm baked right now
[23:42] <elkepon> that's fine, thanks for helping me
[23:42] <elkepon> so what do i do with wine?
[23:42] <bprompt> baked?   I hope you put on the spf 50 tan lotion
[23:43]  * bprompt puts some garlic pepper on leedos_kidaslon_ 
[23:43] <leedos_kidaslon_> if you come into any more problems with chrome be careful with what it makes you uninstall. I had to remove older linux images but if you uninstall the wrong ones you can break your system, and thats no good.
[23:43] <leedos_kidaslon_> also yeah man I got some dank ass tan lotion