[00:24] <daftykins> tgm4883: this skynet guy =|
[00:24] <daftykins> not cut out for life
[00:24] <tgm4883> heh, yea I know
[00:26] <daftykins> weekend duty ^_^
[02:05]  * daftykins shakes his head
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> 36 users, its full house in discuss :p
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/it-s-official-there-are-now-over-1-500-linux-games-in-valve-s-steam-library-492144.shtml
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/09/you-can-now-buy-ubuntu-laptops-pc-and-phones-from-snapdeal
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> lookin neat also
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> good morning lordievader
[07:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: morning mate
[07:59] <TJ-> Hiya :)
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: on my updated system my rt2800pci driver showed driverversion= generic firmware and number
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> so those generic driver versions must be in the updates somehow
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> the rt2800pci.ko doesnt work by default so it seems
[08:12] <TJ-> Hmmm
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> im wondering wich package these generic firmwares are in
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> i didnt manually installed myself
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: would be interesting to know if we can download these firmware on usb, to install on offline boxes
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> in the future
[08:15] <TJ-> dpkg -S $(modinfo -F firmware rt2800pci)
[08:15] <TJ-> linux-firmware: /lib/firmware/rt2860.bin
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-firmware
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> would this hold all firmwares for every card then?
[08:16] <TJ-> All freely distributed firmwares are in linux-firmware
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> nice one
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> ive seen that broadcom driver also on default 14.04.3 iso also, but thats another story
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> so lets say i have an offline box and install linux-firmware off the usb and install on system, it should recognize the rt2800pci
[08:18] <TJ-> 'recognise' is done by the Linux driver itself. 'be able to use' would require the firmware image
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> cool
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> ill try that next box with nonworking card
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: tnx for the linux-firmware tip, seems like all firmwares inside that tar
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> strange it shows as 'optional' and i never installed it
[11:47] <lordievader> linux-firmware contains all the stuff, you might just want to install a subset.
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: yes ive noticed all brands inside, but was wondering why it got installed on my box
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> hey hey
[11:55] <BluesKaj> hey
[11:55] <Ben64> hey hey hey
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> channels get more crowdy bit by bit
[11:56] <BluesKaj> I have too many chats on the go as ikt is :-)
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> ah right
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> but your supporting mates you dont forget right :p
[11:58] <BluesKaj> I try to help if I can, if that's what you mean .
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> no i just mean to gather here for chitchat under volunteers :p
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> its nice to discuss news and changes n stuff
[12:04] <BluesKaj> i did a total clean install od 15.10b eta so guess I forgot to include "discuss" when configuring konversation a couple of weeks ago
[12:05] <BluesKaj> of 15.10 beta even
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> cool
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> hows it running so far?
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: your on kubuntu 15.10b then?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> quite well actually , some crashes with system settings. Plasma 5.4/KDE is still using X  tho , no change to wayland until 16.04 I think
[12:07] <lordievader> Might not even be 16.04. Too large of a change for an LTS release I'd say.
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: did you read this lol: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-Unity-Bugs
[12:13] <BluesKaj> i read that 16.04 was going begin the transition to wayland, perhaps it was speculation, but tit didn't seem like it was
[12:15] <lordievader> Hmm, seems a bit daring to me.
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> when is 15.04 eol?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> !15.04
[13:45] <Daekdroom> MonkeyDust, I think it's about 3 months after 15.10 is released
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> ok, i'm not reinstalling it in my vm
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:00] <BluesKaj> OS support lasts 9 months afte release
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> !release
[14:01] <BluesKaj> except for LTS
[14:02]  * lotuspsychje waits unpatient on 16.04 :p
[14:02] <BluesKaj> impatient  even :-)
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> silly verbal wit: the patient is impatient
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:08] <BluesKaj> and an unpatient is therefore not a patient
[14:09]  * lotuspsychje feels like a paranoia patient addicted to the w3b
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> you skared him MonkeyDust
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> patience... time will tell
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> tiet veu e paafke
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> ben oui
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> avec a little grass derin
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> ioria: good afternoon mate
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> 38 users! we have a record i think
[14:16] <pauljw> :)
[14:16] <ioria> lotuspsychje, good afternoon to all of you !
[14:16] <pauljw> hi
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> hey to u2 pauljw
[14:19] <ioria> official ubuntu-youtube channel ? does it exist ?
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> hmm not sure?
[14:19] <ioria> i found only omgubuntu channel
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> ive recently saw a list of all channels
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> but cant recall where :p
[14:21] <ioria> i could be useful .... with a lot of tutorial , and graphic video simulations ... and stuff
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> yeah would be nice
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> but not everyone approves the creation of new channels
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> i once tryed to make ubuntu-ssd
[14:22] <ioria> oh... i see
[14:23] <ioria> and ?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> and was brutally denied by an 0p
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> so i made ##linux-ssd
[14:23] <ioria> ?_?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> ioria: because the channel name holds ubuntu, it needs approvement first
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> ## are non-official channels
[14:24] <ioria> go it
[14:24] <ioria> got it
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> ioria: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> what a list omg :p
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> lol trivia is dead
[14:28] <ioria> i'm wondering what it takes to be approved ... being a  billioner hardware manufacturer ? ^_^
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> lol no i think it matters which 0p is replys at wich time
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> and find it relevant to create
[14:29] <ioria> oh... thanks for the info
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> nop ioria :p
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> dang, my 15.10 vm finds my NAS, but not my 14.04 shared folders
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> bridged network
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> weird
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> router block?
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> stupid ubuntu
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> wish i was in windows
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> (joke)
[14:47] <pauljw> heheh
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: if your getting too angry try this: http://news.softpedia.com/news/tutorial-for-microsoft-to-help-it-kill-linux-491638.shtml
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> lolz
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> no joke: in 2008 or 2009 i wrote as a user comment on a linux blog, that, in post-Ballmer times, Windows would become a "by-product" of MS and that they would focus on hardware and services ... it is now said that Windows 10 will indeed be the last release
[14:55] <pauljw> i read that as win10 will be a rolling release that never goes away
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> pauljw  yes, something similar
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> updates on w10 get forced now, unwanted
[14:56] <pauljw> now i see where they're maybe building a linux distro too
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> windows as a service, so to say
[14:56] <pauljw> yep
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> the time their developers get smarter, were 10 years later lol
[14:57] <pauljw> :)
[14:58] <pauljw> i figure that ms will claim to own linux once they have a distro...  heheh...
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> haha
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> bill torvalds
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> and the enter key will be patented by MS
[14:59] <pauljw> lol
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> :p
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> still 75 million users downloaded w10
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> i will have to convince more dualboot users to loose it :p
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> i have w10 in vmware, out of curiosity
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> im curious what netstat does in w10
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> outgoing spy connections :p
[15:07] <pauljw> no doubt, i have xp pro in virtualbox with no network connection.  i consider windows to be a virus.  my daughter has a school laptop that i will no allow on my network.
[15:08] <pauljw> not*
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> all win version are a security thread
[15:08] <pauljw> :)
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> full exploits and mallware
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> if you scan every pc with malwarebytes you reach easy 300+ malwares
[15:09] <pauljw> scary isn't it...
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> and ppl trust their payed antivirus
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> false feeling of security
[15:11] <pauljw> they don't know any better, ms is what they were raised on.
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> true
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> i once helped a guy with his win pc, because he had so many virusses
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> the guy bought antivirus2007 online, and payed 60$ for it
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> but that package was itself a pack with 200 malwares inside lol
[15:15] <pauljw> yeah, all to commom a practice.  so glad to be an all linux home these days.
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> same here
[15:20] <BluesKaj> malware bytes generates a lot of false positives tho
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> yeah cookies
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: but for a pc that never been cleaned for years, malwarebytes can help
[15:24] <BluesKaj> yup, I suppose , lotuspsychje ...wife's windows pc is remarkably clear of malware
[15:25] <OerHeks> a good botnet protects your pc from malware :-D
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> loool
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> yeats: welcome
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> your also doing support at #ubuntu sometimes right yeats?
[15:45] <OerHeks> old name, been here as far as i remember
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> cool
[15:45] <yeats> yep ;-)
[15:45] <yeats> thanks
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> yeats: well we have gathered here to chitchat with most active supporters feel free to add to favs
[15:46] <yeats> thank you - I've been less active recently, but I try to check in at least on the weekends
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> yeats: not the quantity but quality counts :p
[15:46] <yeats> :-D
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> yeats: we always doing support, but never have the chance to talk 2 each other, so here we are
[15:49] <OerHeks> gossip channel nr 1
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[15:49] <OerHeks> no, it can really be handy for volunteers to backtalk
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> and no girlz, hows that possible
[15:50] <OerHeks> ehh you think no girls are here, grinn
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:50]  * lotuspsychje slaps OerHeks into #ubuntu-women
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> you are visitor number 39 EriC^^
[16:10] <EriC^^> yay!
[16:10] <EriC^^> :D
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> !peak
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> hmmm
[16:10] <EriC^^> did i win anything? :p
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: yes an empty bucket
[16:10] <EriC^^> lol
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> you can carry 10 liters water with it
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> and throw it over OerHeks face
[16:11] <EriC^^> lo
[16:11] <EriC^^> lol
[16:11] <OerHeks> Yes, you get 1 chance .. me 2
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> :p
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> the ubuntu bucket challenge
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> but instead of icecubes we let it freeze completly
[16:13] <EriC^^> lol
[16:13] <EriC^^> haha
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> ok so far for quality ubuntu discussions
[16:14] <EriC^^> :D
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> what will the new guys think...
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> im out for dinner
[16:14] <EriC^^> ok see ya
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> bye
[16:15] <pauljw> bye
[16:15] <ioria> bye
[16:15] <EriC^^> bye
[20:59] <daftykins> aww i missed the group 'bye' :(
[20:59] <pauljw> heheh...
[21:58] <pauljw> bbl dinner time...