[00:08] <popey> i should look at my graph again somtime, just left it running
[00:14] <zmoylan-pi> but at this time of night there's little contention so the speeds will fly
[00:19] <Azelphur> popey: do you want my updated script? it's so much better
[00:20] <Azelphur> if you have Python on your router it should work
[00:20] <popey> its ddwrt
[00:20] <Azelphur> I think you have opkg on there and can install Python?
[00:20] <popey> I wont have a chance to for a while, I'll ping you when I have some time to, thanks
[00:20] <Azelphur> sure :)
[08:47] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:58] <knightwise> good morning brobostigon
[08:59] <brobostigon> morning knightwise
[09:15] <knightwise> how are you doing bro
[09:19] <brobostigon> hangover central, had abit of a long night out with my gf. and you?
[09:20] <knightwise> Had a long work week. Catching up on some stuff in the home office , rearranging some screens and updating my xps
[09:20] <knightwise> been neglecting it a little bit lately
[09:21] <brobostigon> oh dear, :( . anit of a rstful weekend required it sound slike.
[09:22] <knightwise> wont be getting that anytime soon . got some lectures to prep for the coming month
[09:25] <brobostigon> :(
[09:35] <knightwise> its ok :) all part of running your own business
[09:35] <brobostigon> :)
[11:16] <foobarry> man, beating scervo on skyward sword, that was tough
[14:43] <neuro> moo
[14:43] <zmoylan-pi> *bark*
[14:44] <neuro> moving irssi proxy from local VM to AWS VM for the win
[14:48] <neuro> and fixing mac irc client also for the win
[14:48] <neuro> so how is everyone this fine saturday afternoon?
[14:53] <zmoylan-pi> quiet
[16:08] <isleofmandan> Any broadcom wireless experts around? We've got a clean install of 15.04 but no wifi, and another ubuntu machine nearby that has internet access. We have a USB stick.... ;)
[16:17] <MartijnVdS> isleofmandan: easiest would be a USB ethernet dongle to install packages ;)
[16:18] <MartijnVdS> isleofmandan: anyway, install this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/admin/broadcom-sta-dkms
[16:18] <isleofmandan> Thanks.. Just hooked up a phone with USB tethering
[16:18] <MartijnVdS> (download, dpkg -i, download dependencies, dpkg -i, repeat until done)
[16:19] <MartijnVdS> oh then it's easier
[16:19] <MartijnVdS> just install broadcom-sta-dkms
[16:20] <isleofmandan> I need a 4G phone.. lol
[16:20] <MartijnVdS> they have 4G on the isle? :P
[16:21] <isleofmandan> They do. My phone doesn't :)
[16:21] <neuro> they have electricity and running water too!!
[16:21] <isleofmandan> cheeky
[16:21] <neuro> i was being sarky at martijn, not you ;)
[16:23] <isleofmandan> Boo.  "Bad return status for module build..."  What's that all about then?
[16:32] <isleofmandan> doing the old 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' on a 3G phone is sloooow :)
[16:57] <brobostigon> i have some good news, i just asked my gf what she would say if i were to ask her to be my wife, and she said, "it would be amazing to be your wife and to be yours someday". :)
[16:57] <isleofmandan> Thanks for the help folks. We're getting kicked out of CodeClub now.  He'll have to struggle by on his own!
[16:57] <isleofmandan> congrats brobostigon. When is some day? ;)
[16:58] <brobostigon> ty, :). it means sometime undetermined time in the future.
[16:58] <brobostigon> some undetermined time*
[16:58] <isleofmandan> :)
[16:59] <brobostigon> :)
[17:02] <isleofmandan> Saved at the final hour. He has wi-fi :)     If any of you are at OggCamp in Liverpool next month, I owe you a beer.
[17:02] <isleofmandan> Cheers.
[18:43] <shauno> finally, doctor who :)
[19:12] <penguin42> we've got some swifts or swallows on a field near here; they're *way* too fast to focus on though - how the heck do you tell what they are
[19:16] <zleap> look at the wings,
[19:16] <ali1234> catch it in a big net
[19:17] <zleap> i think you can tell by the wing shape or something, try a bird ID guide it may have a siloette of each so you can tell
[19:18] <penguin42> will have to try getting the speed on his camera really really fast
[19:19] <penguin42> so far my only way of getting any pictures of them is to focus on one point in the field and take a rapid succession of images and hope that one or two of them have the bird in
[20:34] <foobarry> has anyone tried converting ogg->mp3 ?
[20:34] <foobarry> wonder what the quality reduction is like?
[20:34] <foobarry> in the past i converted half my collection to ogg until i realised it wasn' the future
[20:35] <foobarry> never had the resolve to get the CDs out of the boxes and re rip
[20:38] <shauno> I'd think it depends how anal you were about the original rips.  eg, if you've done them all at 320, then ogg-320 to mp3-256 probably isn't going to hurt enough to worry about
[20:39] <shauno> (unless you've been blessed with golden ears, and require audio equipment made from unicorn tears and pixie farts)
[20:40] <shauno> if you've already done them at some approximation of "normal", then normal minus loss = subar.  but if they're already overkill, overkill minus loss = normal  (in the vaguest possible terms)
[20:40] <shauno> otherwise, just try it on something that you think you'd notice the difference on, and "suck it and see"
[20:41] <shauno> er, *sub-par
[20:41] <penguin42> shauno: Well you've got to connect the pixie farts on the amp end, and the unicorn tears to the speakers
[20:47] <shauno> it's more just a generic disclaimer, because there's "always one", and he'll want your blood for even uttering "transcode"
[20:48] <foobarry> ogg didn't do bitrates as i remember
[20:48] <foobarry> not the same way as mp3
[20:48] <foobarry> i mean, the program had "level 6" etc
[20:48] <foobarry> a bit like some other encoiding apps
[20:49] <shauno> yeah, but they're pretty direct parallels.  q4 is 128, q8 is 256, q9 is 320
[20:50] <foobarry> btw whats a good ripping app for linux?
[20:50]  * penguin42 uses k3b
[20:50] <foobarry> rhythmbox and other g* ones suck
[20:50] <foobarry> they broke some time ago
[20:50] <shauno> I'll deferr on that one.  I still do everything with brutally ugly bash scripts
[20:50] <foobarry> paranoia?
[20:51] <shauno> or worse.  I've been known to use php5-cli where sane people would call for python :D
[20:51] <foobarry> q6? 192?
[20:51] <shauno> bingo
[20:52] <foobarry> wonder if i can go from 192 ogg to 192 mp3 without crying
[20:52] <foobarry> flicking channels. not sure i've ever seen a nick cage film
[20:53]  * penguin42 has watched Con Air and hmm one or two others
[20:54]  * penguin42 generally doesn't like him that much
[20:54] <foobarry> nope
[20:54] <foobarry> seems lame
[20:54] <foobarry> right, bed time. nighty
[20:54] <penguin42> nn
[20:54]  * foobarry spots a story about eejit who ate 35 biagra
[20:54] <foobarry> v*
[20:55] <daftykins> ooh-err
[20:55]  * penguin42 heard about that, how exactly did he end up taking 35
[20:55] <daftykins> i sense that doesn't end with a comical 'mood' lasting days
[20:58] <shauno> ugh, this flirc dongle is .. naughty words.
[21:00] <daftykins> ah i see folk acquire those things in #kodi i think
[21:01] <shauno> I didn't realise it just pretends it's a keyboard
[21:01] <shauno> would really, really prefer something that just uses lirc
[21:03] <daftykins> ah i was thinking it was the CEC thing
[22:35] <shauno> argh.  pulling hair out trying to figure out how to get the harmony remote working with flirc
[22:57] <daftykins> nothing on the Kodi forums?
[23:00] <shauno> yes.  pages and pages of conflicting nonsense
[23:01] <daftykins> ah par for the course then :D
[23:01] <shauno> it keeps saying to just search harmony for 'kodi' as a built-in profile
[23:01] <shauno> except harmony requires a brand and a model, so you can't search for a single word
[23:02] <daftykins> manufacturer Flirc apparently
[23:02] <daftykins> i take it that's not listed?
[23:03] <shauno> searching for kodi as both model & brand gave me an MCE profile, which doesn't work with flirc because the rc6 protocl adds huge, huge delays
[23:03] <shauno> I tried the profile that comes up if you search for flirc as both mffr & model, but you then can't program it into the flirc dongle
[23:03] <shauno> because it sets up play/pause/prev/next as media keys which I can't disable, so they go to itunes instead of flirc's app
[23:05] <shauno> right now it's like .. everything.  all at once, everything is conspiring against me.  divided, they're just silly issues.  together, they'll beat me
[23:05] <daftykins> i feel a bit like that lately, i think everything electrical in my house has some issue or another
[23:06] <shauno> I'm not sure why I'm even bothering, since I have to replace the flirc thing to eventually achieve what I want anyway
[23:07] <shauno> I want to send some buttons on the remote to a background process, so having it act as a keyboard works against me
[23:11] <penguin42> what keys on the keyboard does it work as ?
[23:12] <penguin42> shauno: You can probably also watch the events from that specific input device separately as well
[23:14] <shauno> the keys are configurable in the flirc app
[23:15] <penguin42> well I mean what does the device send if it acts as a HID device
[23:15] <shauno> so like, you press Enter in the app, and then press a button on the remote.  and then every time you press that button, it sends Enter
[23:27] <shauno> hm.  and the skin I've been using for years has gone full-metal-idiot too.  gah
[23:32] <shauno> so simple enough story.  I'm trying to move from xbmc ... 11? I think on my 1st-gen appletv, to kodi on the pi
[23:32] <shauno> *only* because the appletv just doesn't have the horsepower, so I've been transcoding everything into its native format for years
[23:33] <shauno> so most the reason everything feels exceptionally frustrating, is that it's all things I've already had working for years
[23:33] <shauno> like right now, I'm stuck in a dialogue box where I can't seem to navigate to the 'ok' button
[23:33] <shauno> just going round and round in circles wanting 11 back