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tgm4883skynetguy: IDK, I wouldn't use 32-bit on 64-bit capable hardware but that's just me00:00
TJ-Moonlightning: true ... I'm looking at the bridge-utils pre-up script though, and it does a lot of tests before adding each interface00:00
skynetguytgm4883, ok00:00
skynetguytgm4883, i got about 30 different pae kernels to choose from when booting00:01
skynetguytgm4883, dont know why they keep updating them00:01
tgm4883skynetguy: because security patches00:01
skynetguytgm4883, oh00:02
VolundI am very irritated now. :(00:03
skynetguytgm4883, if i upgrade from update manager i still keep all my files right??00:03
daftykinsskynetguy: remove some00:03
daftykinsVolund: that's a shame, on a Friday night too00:03
VolundDeduced that the reason my computer and Linux are not getting along is the fglrx proprietary drivers.00:03
tgm4883skynetguy: yea00:03
Volundit works fine on open source drivers except I can't seem to run Steam00:03
Volundif I switch to fglrx it won't boot.00:03
tgm4883Volund: what card?00:03
VolundAMD Radeon HD 797000:03
tgm4883Volund: what's the error in steam?00:04
skynetguydaftykins, you mean backup??00:04
Volundone moment, I'll try and find out00:04
skynetguydaftykins, you talking to me??00:04
* Volund runs steam.real in terminal00:05
daftykinsskynetguy: did the name not give it away? remove some old kernels :)00:05
skynetguydaftykins, how in the world do i do that?00:06
skynetguydaftykins, and what would that do??00:06
daftykinswow.00:06
daftykins"dpkg -l | grep linux-image" list old kernels00:06
tgm4883Why are we worried about  the number of kernels now?00:06
daftykinsah is this user gonna upgrade?00:06
tgm4883that was my impression00:07
MoonlightningTJ-: where're you looking?00:07
daftykinshaving some free space on /boot might still be useful00:07
daftykinsskynetguy: what are you going to do? upgrade?00:07
skynetguythats what im about to do from update manager00:07
skynetguydaftykins, yes00:07
daftykinsskynetguy: pastebin "df -h" first00:07
tgm4883daftykins: it should check for freespace before doing the upgrade (and I'm thinking everything this user has is in 1 partition) but yea, he should check first00:08
daftykinstgm4883: noted, but yeah, can't hurt00:08
TJ-Moonlightning: "/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/bridge -> /lib/bridge-utils/ifupdown.sh" which calls parse_bridge_ports() from "/lib/bridge-utils/bridge-utils.sh" - parse_bridge_ports() can filter out interface names from the list used to call "brctl addif"00:09
MoonlightningTJ-: Okay?00:09
TJ-Moonlightning: s/parse_bridge_ports/bridge_parse_ports/00:09
skynetguydaftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12460533/00:10
Volundtgm4883: http://pastebin.com/D5Bg61xB00:10
TJ-Moonlightning: so the bridge-utils scripts could filter out 'wlan0', whereas when you call brctl manually that doesn't happen00:10
tgm4883Volund: there is a workaround for that00:11
daftykinsskynetguy: and "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" ?00:11
Volundis it the one for deleting libstdc++.so.6 etc?00:11
tgm4883Volund: what version of ubuntu is this00:11
MoonlightningTJ-: I only see one thing that looks relevant in bridge_parse_ports()00:12
VolundUbuntu 15.04 x6400:12
gcosminHi, I have to copy and paste the public key into my remote ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file ... but I have no authorized_keys file in /etc/ssh/00:12
tgm4883Volund: yea, there is a file that steam ships that  you can delete. It's pretty old00:12
Moonlightningand that's this regex at the top: eth.\* em.\* 'p[0-9].*'00:12
skynetguydaftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12460605/00:12
MoonlightningTJ-: but it seems to me that that's only used when you add `all` interfaces to a bridge?00:13
Picigcosmin: create it, or use ssh-copy-id, which does all of this stuff for you. (ssh-copy-id user@server)00:13
MoonlightningOr something like that?00:13
tgm4883Volund: I'd try deleting ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.600:13
TJ-Moonlightning: I'd add a "set -x" just before "brctl addif $IFACE $port && ip link set dev $port up" and call "ifup br0" and see which ports it tries to add (after downing the bridge first of course)00:14
curiousxsry, what's your issue Volund00:14
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Volundfunny thing, my steam folder is in ~ and not ~/.local00:14
gcosminPici: http://pastebin.com/LenbvJYY00:14
MoonlightningTJ-: I think I'm going to uncomment the lines for eth1 and wlan0 from /etc/network/interfaces, reboot, and see if that works.00:14
MoonlightningTJ-: if not, I'll try that.00:14
tgm4883Volund: can you still make your way to that file?00:14
MoonlightningEither way, I should be back in a few minutes.00:15
tgm4883Volund: it's shipped with steam, and is pretty old00:15
TJ-Moonlightning: you don't need a reboot. Just use ifup/ifdown, or /etc/init.d/networking restart00:15
tgm4883Volund: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/380100:15
skynetguydaftykins, am i good to go??00:15
daftykinsskynetguy: eh i'd kill some, there are tonnes on there. does "sudo apt-get autoremove" get rid of any for you?00:15
tgm4883Volund: I'm pretty sure that is what I did on mine when I ran it on that card. Now I run steam on my intel graphics and just the games on the AMD card00:15
Picigcosmin: you shouldn't need to touch anything in /etc/ssh/.  Did you create an ssh key for your user (using ssh-keygen) ?00:16
skynetguydaftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12460653/00:17
VolundI don't -have- that file...00:17
skynetguydaftykins, i think only two were removed00:17
tgm4883Volund: interesting.00:17
tgm4883Volund: out of curiosity, do you have it at that path I mentioned?00:18
MoonlightningTJ-: I'm also testing the other things that I just fixed.00:18
jeffreylevesqueanyone here know why my heredoc string is bad syntax - https://travis-ci.org/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/builds/81057986?00:18
MoonlightningAnyway, brb.00:18
Volundit was in ~/.steam and not ~/.local/share/steam00:18
daftykinsskynetguy: you could run 'sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae ...' up to and including 88 (name each package with a space between to do them all in one go)00:19
* Volund forces Steam to utterly rebuild, tries this again00:19
skynetguydaftykins, but if i upgrade to 14.04 wont they all be removed anyway???00:20
daftykinsskynetguy: nope.00:20
tgm4883Volund: odd,  you should have that file in ~/.steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/  I just checked it on my 15.04 box00:20
skynetguydaftykins, ok let me undestand this if i upgrade to 14.04 i these kernels will still show up at boot and i can into them???00:21
Volundone moment.00:21
daftykinsskynetguy: they'll be there but you shouldn't boot them, i am saying remove all the unnecessary cruft now00:22
skynetguydaftykins, ok00:22
Volundhunting for file now00:22
tgm4883daftykins: it really leaves 12.04 kernels installed after an upgrade to 14.04? eww00:23
xanguadoesn't it only leaves the last one¿'00:23
skynetguydaftykins, so i "sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae, linux-image-3.2.0-61-generic-pae...and so on with comma after each one???00:23
tgm4883skynetguy: no comma00:24
tgm4883just a space00:24
daftykinsskynetguy: i said spaces. READ what i say00:24
Chuck_NorrisVolund: updatedb ; locate <name of the file huntin' here>00:24
skynetguydaftykins, yeah sorry i got it00:24
Volundtgm4883: libstdc++.so.600:25
Volundthis is what I have.00:25
tgm4883Volund: thats..... the exact name of the file I said00:25
Volundyeah gah sorry I'm getting confused with five other troubleshooting threads00:26
tgm4883Volund: and to be clear, that is the one in the steam directory right00:26
Volundyeah00:26
tgm4883Volund: ok, so either delete or move that one somewhere else then start steam00:26
Volundokay I got it working00:27
tgm4883good00:27
Volundlooks like my frustrated explosion at Kubuntu was unwarranted and I did not need to switch to Ubuntu... however...00:27
Volundprovided that I can get VNC working for desktop sharing in unity I really don't care which I'm using00:28
tgm4883Volund: well the good news is that it's easy enough to switch between the two00:28
tgm4883so if you change your mind, you can go back00:28
Volundit is?00:29
tgm4883Volund: yes, you could 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and then remove all the ubuntu specific stuff and have a Kubuntu install00:29
Volund....00:30
tgm4883Volund: or just install the kde stuff then you can choose which one to login to on the login screen00:30
Volundwow.00:30
VolundI just came from Windows twod ays ago and that sounds like some kind of wild black magic.00:30
tgm4883lol00:30
MoonlightningVolund: package managers are wonderful.00:30
Moonlightningapt-get blew me away the first time. :)00:30
tgm4883Volund: yea, it's nice on this side :)00:30
Moonlightning“Wait…so it's just automatically downloading and installing everything that this thing needs to work??”00:31
daftykinsyou could replace explorer with litestep too... *cough*00:31
skynetguydaftykins, hey i dual boot windows 7 those wont affect that right??00:31
VolundI do apologize for my impatience. 10+ years of being able to make my PC do practically whatever I wanted and then being faced with a situation where I utterly did not know what to do filled me with a frothing fury.00:31
daftykinsskynetguy: removing old kernels? no00:31
skynetguydaftykins, i noticed it saying it found windows 7 boot loader00:31
tgm4883Volund: I've been there. I call it windows server 200300:31
daftykinsyeah don't worry.00:32
skynetguydaftykins, its doing alot of stuff00:33
Theloniousjoin ##security00:33
MoonlightningAnyway. wlan0 still isn't being added to the bridge.00:33
skynetguydaftykins, something like 2gb will be freed00:33
daftykinsskynetguy: eh seems worth it now eh? :)00:34
daftykinsskynetguy: do a "sudo apt-get autoremove" after that too00:34
skynetguydaftykins, yeah i guess00:34
skynetguydaftykins, ok00:34
tgm4883Moonlightning: can you paste your network interfaces file again, I've not really been following along but you're just trying to bridge two networks?00:34
skynetguydaftykins, i know i had way more kernels than the ones i showed you00:34
skynetguydaftykins, i guess its doing all of them00:35
Moonlightningtgm4883: https://gist.github.com/BlacklightShining/9e897888593ba791084c00:35
tgm4883skynetguy: you guess?00:35
skynetguytgm4883, pretty sure00:35
tgm4883skynetguy: did you not specifically add every one you wanted it to remove?00:36
Moonlightningtgm4883: I'm not really trying to bridge two networks. I just have the two downstream interfaces bridged together, 'cos that's what I'm used to coming from consumer netboxes >.>00:36
Moonlightningtgm4883: the effect I was going for is that all clients be on the same subnet. It seems to work.00:36
daftykinsMoonlightning: why waste so much power to do the job of a consumer box? :)00:36
skynetguytgm4883, dpkg -l | grep linux-image did not show every single one00:36
skynetguytgm4883, but i think its removing all of them now!!00:37
Moonlightningdaftykins: flexibility. Using a fully-fledged computer as a netbox means I can make it do a lot more.00:37
daftykinsMoonlightning: heh, and you get to support it every single day! yeah you're preaching to the choir, i used to run smoothwall and know of pfsense00:37
daftykinsreinventing the wheel is something only worth doing when you're young :P00:38
tgm4883Moonlightning: I'm not sure if it helps, but here is my bridging setup. I use it to put my LXC containers on my local network http://pastebin.com/vHevaL6J00:38
Moonlightningdaftykins: ehhh, it's not that high-maintenance :300:38
daftykinsskynetguy: you know you weren't meant to list them all, yeah?00:38
skynetguydaftykins, oh ok00:38
daftykinsMoonlightning: :D i'll remember you nick and keep watching :P00:38
Moonlightningdaftykins: might not be in here next time :p00:39
MoonlightningMy other nick is Starthunder, by the way.00:39
skynetguydaftykins, all done00:39
daftykinsand the autoremove?00:39
tgm4883skynetguy: out of curiosity, what command did you run to remove them?00:40
skynetguydaftykins, nothing to remove00:40
daftykinstgm4883: i'd said purge one by one :D00:40
skynetguytgm4883, sudo apt-get autoremove00:40
daftykinsno it was purge00:40
tgm4883this is super confusing00:40
skynetguytgm4883, sudo apt-get purge00:41
skynetguythats the one00:41
skynetguytgm4883, i just did all of them in one go00:41
tgm4883skynetguy: yea, don't reboot your computer right now00:41
daftykinslets confirm you still have one before you do anything else :P00:41
daftykins"dpkg -l | grep linux-image"00:41
daftykinsshould still have at least -8800:42
skynetguydaftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12460943/00:42
daftykinsyay00:42
skynetguydaftykins, now i can upgrade from update manager00:42
skynetguydaftykins, ??00:42
daftykinsonce you backup, sure00:43
skynetguydaftykins, oh i have to backup??00:43
daftykinsalways00:43
skynetguydaftykins, i thought doing that way keeps all your files00:44
daftykinsyeah but what if the upgrade doesn't boot00:44
tgm4883it's amazing to me how many people don't keep some form of backup00:44
skynetguyok i'll backup00:44
skynetguywill this affect my other windows 7 partition00:44
daftykinseverything should be backed up00:45
skynetguyholy cow really00:45
daftykins=|00:45
skynetguysorry its just i got around 300gb of stuff00:46
daftykinsthat's nothing00:46
tgm4883skynetguy: how important is the data00:46
skynetguytgm4883, maybe a third is important00:47
tgm4883skynetguy: wrong. If your data isn't backed up, it obviously isn't important00:47
tgm4883you see what I'm laying down here?00:48
skynetguyso your saying that upgrading this way should go smoothly but just in case it doesnt i should backup??? right00:48
tgm4883skynetguy: I'm saying, what are you going to do about your "important" data if your hard drive crashes in the next 5 minutes00:49
Volundso I went to Dash -> Desktop Sharing and configured it.. my Windows machine's not connecting using RealVNC though, hrm00:50
skynetguytgm4883, i've upgraded in the past this way and it went smoothly00:50
tgm4883skynetguy: and it will likely go smoothly this time. But data that isn't backed up isn't important00:51
* Volund restarts, tests a thing00:51
skynetguymy goodness even the windows 7 partition will be in danger00:52
skynetguymaybe i better plan this......00:53
daftykinsupgrades are usually worthy of a good planning, yeah - you never know what might happen.00:54
Userperhi all, running Unity/Ubuntu 15.04. Tried to install KDE Plasma 5.4 using the backports PPA but ended up getting 5.3.2....how can I update it to 5.4?00:54
daftykinsthe Linux kernel could nuke your drive and take your family hostage00:54
skynetguylol00:54
Volundokay so00:55
VolundI'm trying to get Desktop Sharing working00:55
VolundUbuntu seems to have support for it built-in and I configured it, but attempting to connect using Remmina or RealVNC, I just get an 'attempting to connect' that hangs forever.00:56
skynetguydaftykins, you know of a good online storage for large amounts of data???00:56
Ben64Volund: maybe you're choosing the wrong port or you need to open the port or something else00:56
tgm4883daftykins: it's funny though, the more I know about linux and the more prepared I am for data loss, the more cavelier I am about doing things that may nuke stuff00:57
daftykinsskynetguy: nothing beyond the usual, dropbox - box - onedrive - blah blah00:57
skynetguydaftykins, any of them that are free00:58
tgm4883skynetguy: I don't know of any free places for you to stash 300GB of stuff00:58
skynetguytgm4883, maybe 42gb00:59
VolundBen64: I know it's the right port because when I kill vino-server, I get 'connection refused' instead00:59
skynetguytgm4883, is all i need00:59
tgm4883skynetguy: not sure about free storage for that either00:59
daftykinsskynetguy: but yourself an external disk, you can't get by in life with just the one internal - they all die00:59
OerHeks1tb foto storage, flickr00:59
skynetguydaftykins, i have one how long do they last because one i got was defective and the other one has been working for 2 years now Seagate 1TB01:01
Ben64skynetguy: depends01:01
daftykinswhy aren't you just copying to that then?01:01
daftykinswhy do you want something online o001:02
skynetguybecause that one is almost full01:02
jeffrey_fI have a Toshiba S55t laptop with touch screen - Ubuntu runs quite well, however, after waking up from slumber, the touchscreen no longer works.  Any work-around?01:02
chris66<daftykins> you are my hero, it worked! I'm so happy:D01:02
skynetguyeven the external ones are defective01:02
skynetguyis there a way to test them01:03
skynetguybefore i load data into them01:03
GetOffMyLawnHello all.  I hate to be that guy... I'm brand-new to Linux.  All 30+ years of my life have been focused on Windows.  I recently purchased a new laptop with Ubuntu 15.04 installed.  Love it, the GUI is so simple.  But my concern is that it's so simple, I feel like I'm not actually learning Linux I am just learning how to navigate.  Any place you recommend I go to no skip over the core essentials of Linux?01:03
daftykinsGetOffMyLawn: install a VM and play with server, learning the command line - also try the free intro course at edx.org01:04
jeffrey_fGetOffMyLawn: Well, what do you want to do?  Every GUI has a command line counterpart.........01:04
GetOffMyLawndaftykins, thank you.  I'll take a look at that website!01:04
chris66<GetOffMyLawn> can you use the command line? if not thats a good start01:05
GetOffMyLawnjeffrey_f, no idea.  Just learn it :) I wanted to try something new.  It's kind of overwhelming to not even know the basics, like how to find an IP address lol.  I am learning it, but man... so different.01:05
daftykinsyou can find all that in the GUI as well though01:06
GetOffMyLawndaftykins, correct, and I have.  My concern is I just notice a lot of content is purely command-line driven.  So I feel like I'm selling myself short doing it via GUI.  Is that fair to say?  Or will GUI pretty much handle it?01:06
chris66GetOffMyLawn> try to compile apps not in the repos, thats a bit tricky01:06
skynetguycompiling that takes forever01:07
chris66 daftykins thanks again for helping me, I will go and enjoy my new xubuntu now, have a good one:)01:07
GetOffMyLawnchris66, thank you.  I can say, when I started Linux even terminology was way out there.  No one explained what a repo was, what a sudo meant, etc..  I watched a bunch of YouTube videos and learned it.  But they seem to be all over in the sense of consistency.01:07
daftykinsGetOffMyLawn: same as always true of Windows too, really01:07
daftykinss/as/was/01:07
daftykinschris66: working with nvidia's proprietary now eh?01:08
GetOffMyLawndaftykins, correct.  I guess because I grew up on Windows, starting with 3.1, and being an IT professional my whole life I just learned how to manage it from all aspects as both a user and admin.  So I suppose that's what I was hoping to not miss out on with Linux.01:08
jeffrey_fGetOffMyLawn: Well, install virtual box and load up another instance of LInux and poke around that.  If you mess it up, just reload and go at it again.01:08
GetOffMyLawnI guess the answer really is just play with it lol01:08
GetOffMyLawnjeffrey_f,  what's a recommended virtual box application?01:09
chris66<daftykins> yep,I have the latest, it seem to have made the trick:) just as you said01:09
tgm4883lol01:09
tgm4883GetOffMyLawn: VirtualBox01:09
GetOffMyLawntgm4883, that was simple... lol01:09
wileeeGetOffMyLawn, commands are standard, you just are more exposed to the command line is all.01:10
daftykinschris66: cool, glad it worked out01:10
chris66<GetOffMyLawn> I know what you mean man,01:10
jeffrey_fGetOffMyLawn: virtualbox.  Command:sudo apt-get install virtualbox01:10
chris66<daftykins> me too, I am very glad, thank you so much! :)01:10
VolundWell01:11
GetOffMyLawnjeffrey_f, thank you.  So the apt-get confuses me, because I have no idea how to know what the name of the app is (what it comes with, how it's rated, etc..).  I see the Ubuntu software manager gives all that, but if I wasn't on ubuntu, how would I know what to even type after "sudo apt-get install" ?01:11
jeffrey_fGetOffMyLawn: How about LAMPP, (Linux, Apache Server, PHP, Python) have a web you can mess with01:11
VolundI got x11vnc running in Ubuntu which is cool01:11
Volundand I think this layout will be acceptable.01:11
chris66I was on debian all day yesterday tryin to compile Tomahawk, it's damn impossible, that will be something for you <GetOffMyLawn> :)01:11
chris66good practise for sure01:12
tgm4883GetOffMyLawn: you'll want to learn the "man" command. Then you can read the manual pages for various things "man apt"01:12
jeffrey_fGetOffMyLawn: every command comes with manual   command: man <theappname>01:12
tgm4883GetOffMyLawn: also, most things have a -h option that will print some helpful info01:12
GetOffMyLawnjeffrey_f, tgm4883:  Thank you both.  I did start using the man command, didn't know about the -h (I was trying windows /? which worked 40% of the time.).01:13
jeffrey_fGetOffMyLawn: If you ask help here in doing things, you will ALWAYS get commands.  It's too difficult to make sure others are seeing the same things in a GUI01:14
tgm4883GetOffMyLawn: also, TAB will be helpful to you01:14
tgm4883!tab | GetOffMyLawn01:14
ubottuGetOffMyLawn: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.01:14
GetOffMyLawnjeffrey_f, that is a good thing for me, so thanks!  I want to learn the commands more than anything.  But it seems that so many linux tutorials assume you know the "culture" of Linux I guess.  Things like referring to network cards as eth0 and not explaining what it is.01:14
GetOffMyLawnjeffrey_f,  so I find myself googling every 10th worth when reading articles.  It's coming together slowly, but definitely a lot of different verbiage.01:15
daftykinswell, do LFS101 like i said on edx.org - that'd be a great start01:15
jeffrey_fI have a Toshiba S55t laptop with touch screen - Ubuntu runs quite well, however, after waking up from slumber, the touchscreen no longer works.  Any work-around?01:15
daftykinsbut to be honest most of it comes from exposure and just getting stuck in01:15
GetOffMyLawndaftykins, yeah I am browsing that now, thank you.01:15
daftykinsset yourself a task like learning to do web admin - don't let yourself take any shortcuts :>01:15
daftykinsas in web hosting on a Linux server01:16
GetOffMyLawndaftykins, edx.org reminds me a lot of pluralsight.com, which I'm very familiar with.  Not sure if you've used it.  But if so, would you say that's an accurate comparison?01:16
jeffrey_fGetOffMyLawn: I tried some flavor of Linux quite a while back, but it was still floundering.  I tried it again in '06 and it survived 3 kids (unlike windows) and is STILL being used on that same desktop system.01:17
daftykinsGetOffMyLawn: never heard of01:17
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jeffrey_fGetOffMyLawn: I've gotten to the point, I would rather use the command line for things.  system update: sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade&&sudo apt-get autoremove01:18
GetOffMyLawnjeffrey_f:  That's my goal!  I love the amount of flexiblity/control.  It's also really interesting to see how simple it is... I find myself thinking I need to worry about driver conflicts, but I have yet to have anything like that even after messing around on a dual-boot I setup.01:20
daftykinsright i think, given this channel is actually about pure support - the 'learning' convos might have to move to ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic folks :)01:21
GetOffMyLawndaftykins, understood.  I have a good start thanks to the feedback, so I'll shut up and do some digging.  Thanks again!01:22
GetOffMyLawnexit01:22
GetOffMyLawnwell that was wrong lol, see ya.01:22
jeffrey_fI have a Toshiba S55t laptop with touch screen - Ubuntu runs quite well, however, after waking up from slumber, the touchscreen no longer works.  Any work-around?01:27
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Dragonycan some one tell me how to fix this error please01:35
Dragonyhttp://pastebin.com/PqUx9WTW01:35
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daftykinsDragony: so, line 15.01:36
Dragonydaftykins: yes i even set it to UTF-8 and im still getting the error01:37
daftykinswell it's obviously upset01:38
daftykinsnever heard of that though, so perhaps you should find a channel for it01:38
jeffrey_fCan anyone help with a touchscreen that stops working after taking a nap (the computer, not me)01:40
daftykinsi'd just google restart touchscreen after resume01:40
carloshi01:44
jeffrey_fdaftykins: I've been looking, but there is more old info than new......I'll keep plugging until I can fix01:44
carloshi01:45
jeffrey_fcarlos: yes, if you have a question, Go ahead01:45
daftykinscarlos: saw you the first time :)01:45
carlosgood evening, I'm new with linux01:45
daftykinsok well this is a support channel, so you come here with support questions that are ubuntu specific01:46
carlosI don't want to screw up my operating system01:46
jeffrey_fcarlos: what do you need help with.  No formalities here, just go with the questions01:46
carlosso I have a lot of question01:46
carlosok01:46
daftykinsand try to write full sentences01:46
jeffrey_fcarlos: one long line, be as detailed as possible01:47
carlosI tried to uninstall  blender 2.75, but many softwares of my operating system are gone after that. In the end I couldn't uninstall blender. So, how can I get my default settings to my OS?01:49
jcstarkenTried to install a second os, did not work still just boots in to ubuntu. I am ok with that but how to reclaim my hard drive with out hosing ubuntu01:49
jeffrey_fcarlos: how did you attempt to uninstall?01:50
daftykinscarlos: what do you mean by default settings?01:50
carlosI tried to use the terminal in order to uninstall it, and what I mean default settings is to return everything as the first time I installed my OS01:52
daftykinsif you really hosed it, just clean install01:53
carloshosed it?01:53
cfhowletthosed = broke01:53
carlos:(01:54
carlosdo I have to install my OS again?01:54
AvatarAwhat is this many softwares you speak about? give us some examples, what programs were gone?01:54
carlosthe updater was one of them01:55
carlossoftware center also gone01:55
carlosgimp01:55
cfhowlettcarlos, curious as to why you felt the need to remove core elements?01:56
AvatarAwhat command did you use to uninstall blender?01:56
daftykinscarlos: you might be able to bring things back by just installing ubuntu-desktop - it might pull back in whatever you got rid of01:57
carlosmy intention was not to remove core elements, in fact I don't what that is, I tried to uninstall blender01:57
carlosthe command I used was....01:57
daftykinslets focus on facts and not intentions01:57
kostkoncarlos, Ubuntu with Unity? try      sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:58
cfhowlettcarlos: sanest option = reinstall ubuntu.  and blender/gimp are not part of default ubuntu so I question what OS you actually installed01:58
carlossudo apt-get -f --purge remove Blender 2.701:58
carlosthat's the comand I used01:58
daftykinswell 2.7 shouldn't have matched anything01:59
carlosby the way, I'm using ubuntu studio01:59
daftykinsrun it anyway01:59
carlosrun what?02:00
cfhowlettinstalling ubuntu-desktop will not take you to default ubuntustudio.  clarify your goal02:00
carlosis it safe?02:00
AvatarAyou could probably use tasksel and search for the ubuntu studio you had02:00
* daftykins walks away02:01
AvatarAand select it there02:01
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carlostasksel?02:01
AvatarA"sudo tasksel" in a terminal and see what you get02:01
bazhang!info ubuntustudio-desktop02:01
ubottuubuntustudio-desktop (source: ubuntustudio-meta): Ubuntu Studio Desktop Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.134 (vivid), package size 4 kB, installed size 42 kB02:01
ubuntu-studiohello02:02
beerusHello02:02
carlosok, I'll try tasksel then02:02
carlosit says command not found02:03
carlosdid I have to type apt- get before tasksel?02:03
AvatarAyou could apt-get install tasksel02:04
daftykinsno02:04
AvatarAand try again02:04
AvatarAOR just apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop if that's what you had, I have no idea how many flavors of ubuntustudio there are02:04
carlosno what?02:04
cfhowlettthere is only ONE ubuntustudio02:04
daftykins'did i have to type...'02:05
daftykinscarlos: honestly it should be pretty easy to follow the flow of conversation here02:05
cfhowlettcarlos, sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop               will take you to a default ubuntustudio02:05
carlosI'm trying, but I'm new to this02:05
daftykinsconversation?02:05
carlosyes02:05
cfhowlett!02:05
* cfhowlett backs away - far away02:06
carlosyou all sound like programmers and I don't know anything about programming02:06
* daftykins does not code02:06
* cfhowlett gave explicit instructions on how to proceed - but that was apparently ignored02:07
jcstarkencarlos: I am very new to this to but the only way to learn is to screw it up and start over and try not to do the same error again02:07
jeffrey_fwhois carlos02:07
AvatarAcarlos, "sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop" , Final Solution, no Hitler02:07
daftykinscfhowlett: yeah, seems to be the theme of the evening02:07
carlosok02:07
cfhowlettdaftykins, :)02:08
AvatarAseems ubuntu-studio was sucked away in carlos's computer02:08
carloslol02:08
carlosit's running02:09
jcstarkenwhere can I find ~/.config/hexchat/logs02:10
carlosthere's another thing I would like to ask02:10
cfhowlettjcstarken, in your /home02:10
cfhowlettbut you need to display hidden folders if you use the gui02:10
temporaryhava no have japan people02:11
carloshow can I erase or remove packages that don't work?02:11
beerusDoes anyone here know where the su config files are02:11
jcstarkencfhowlett: thank you02:11
beerusmy su command is being funny!02:11
cfhowlettjcstarken, happy2help!02:11
carlosit finished02:12
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carloswhat does the desktop do?02:13
daftykinsgive you the GUI?02:13
carloswhat is GUI?02:14
AvatarAI think he means the package he just installed02:14
carlosoh02:14
carlosthe installation is done, but I don't know what I did02:15
AvatarAyou get back the default programs for Ubuntu Studio02:15
sethjbeerus, check the "configuration" section of man su02:15
cfhowlettcarlos, logout and login02:15
carlosyou mean to reboot?02:15
cfhowlett...02:16
cfhowlettn - o02:16
temporaryi think also02:16
carlosok, I'll reboot02:17
daftykinsoften, people choose to use certain words because they mean what they're trying to say02:17
carlosanother thing02:17
carloshow can I update a program?02:17
Guest86649alguien español02:18
cfhowlett!es | Guest8664902:18
ubottuGuest86649: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.02:18
carlosyo02:18
cfhowlettcarlos, please /join #ubuntustudio02:18
jcstarkenBashing-om:?02:18
Bashing-omjcstarken: Aye ?02:18
temporaryi can not speak english02:18
carloswhere is #ubuntustudio02:19
carlos?02:19
Guest86649no problem02:19
cfhowlettcarlos, /join #ubuntustudio             in your irc02:19
carloshow?02:19
lusosectordoes anyone use piratebox?02:19
jcstarkenBashing-om:two questions so yesterday when you fixed the video drivers the purge fglrx was to remove old sudo was install the new but what  is the linux-headers-generic02:19
cfhowlettcarlos, type in the exact same place you've been using for this conversation:   /join #ubuntustudio02:20
daftykinslusosector: that doesn't sound like a freenode friendly topic02:20
lusosectorwhy not02:20
cfhowlett!piracy | lusosector02:20
ubottulusosector: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o02:20
carlosok02:20
daftykinswell regardless this is an ubuntu support channel :) so ask a question02:21
daftykins(that actually applies)02:21
Bashing-omjcstarken: the 'generic' was to make sure that the files to build the driver were available to the system.02:21
bazhang!find piratebox02:21
ubottuPackage/file piratebox does not exist in vivid02:21
jcstarkenBashing-om:ok thank you02:21
ushhello. How do I register a nick?02:21
lusosectorits not piracy. you can use it for outher thing02:22
daftykins!register > ush02:22
ubottuush, please see my private message02:22
daftykinsush: ask in #freenode for more please.02:22
bazhang /msg nickserv help  ush02:22
Bashing-omjcstarken: :) Pleased to be of assistance .02:22
ushdaftykins thanks. And apologies02:22
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lusosectorubottu. i no the rules02:24
ubottulusosector: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:24
lusosectori can see02:24
cfhowlett<lusosector> its not piracy. you can use it for outher thing02:25
cfhowlettsounds like it *could* be used for other things but YOU intend not to02:25
lusosectorjust because i can doesnt mean you sould02:26
lusosectorit can02:26
daftykinslusosector: the fact you're having to debate this shows you should just let it go02:27
daftykinsnow, ubuntu support queries please02:27
Bashing-ombeerus: maybe of help : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers .02:28
lusosectorrgr why does ubuntu run like shit on a dell amd a6 3000 series02:29
daftykins!language | lusosector02:29
ubottulusosector: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList02:29
jeffrey_flusosector: Memory?02:29
jeffrey_flusosector: how much memory does it have?02:30
lusosectorsorry again long day. fyi win 10 runs faster and better. im on dual boot.02:31
lusosector4 gb memory02:33
daftykinslusosector: so essentially you're really just trolling? :)02:35
lusosectorno. im not. it does run very slow.02:36
beerushello all can anyone help me with "tampered" su comand02:36
beerus?02:36
lusosectorget FC just opening 3 or more programs02:37
Bashing-ombeerus: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers ; compare your file to what is the default .02:37
lusosectorim all up to date.02:37
beerusBashing-om: did that but will give it a second look02:38
toterlusosector: Ubuntu is taking how long to boot?02:40
lusosectoravg 25 sec login included02:42
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daftykinslusosector: that's definitely messed up, must be something up with your install02:42
toterlusosector: what ubuntu version?02:43
lusosectorclean install all proper drives, latest distro02:43
daftykinslatest is not a number :)02:44
daftykinsi'm guessing 15.04?02:44
cfhowlettI shudder to ask but ... wubi?02:44
* daftykins shudders02:44
daftykinslusosector: ^02:45
toterpaste your "dmesg" output on pastebin...02:45
lusosector14.04 so my bad not latest02:45
toteroh... try installing the latest then02:45
lusosectorapt-get upgrade so do the trick rifgt02:46
lusosectorright02:46
cfhowlettapt-get dist-upgrade02:46
lusosectorwill try02:46
daftykinstoter: terrible advice02:46
daftykinsnothing wrong with sticking to LTS02:46
bazhangdist0upgrade will not change versions02:46
bazhangnor will dist-upgrade02:47
daftykins:)02:47
lusosectorso clean install then02:47
toternothing wrong updating it either02:47
LordSesshomaruis it possible to install 14.04 on a non-PAE machine?02:47
toteri didn't say that was wrong to stay with LTS02:48
daftykinsLordSesshomaru: what's the target?02:48
daftykinstoter: no i was saying moving to 15.04 was bad advice :)02:48
LordSesshomarudaftykins: VIA C3 CPU server02:48
daftykinsLordSesshomaru: ugh no bin it02:48
LordSesshomarudaftykins: If I had the dough to I would02:48
lusosectorso what do you guys think the issue might be02:49
daftykinsLordSesshomaru: you can try forcepae otherwise it's game over02:49
shleezyhi, i recently installed linux and i have adobe flash player installed, but i can't hear anyting on youtube? but the video will play, and my sounds is not muted.02:49
daftykinsshleezy: try chromium or chrome with pepperflash02:49
toterdaftykins: instead of spending an hour to try to fix the problem, he can install 15.04 in 30 minutes...02:49
Bashing-omLordSesshomaru: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2211590 Now 14.04 Lubuntu has support for non-pae:02:50
Volundokay now I have another odd question.02:50
daftykinstoter: right and it might be a hardware problem - so lets stop the guessing.02:50
daftykinsLordSesshomaru: nope looks like it's 100% game over02:50
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LordSesshomaruBashing-om: will try Lubuntu then02:50
shleezydaftykins: under my software manager, both Adobe-flashplugin, and pepperflashplugin-nonfree is installed.02:51
daftykinsah just seen the above.02:51
toterdaftykins: you're right... let's both stop guessing02:51
daftykinsshleezy: ok but pepperflash doesn't work with firefox as default, so it depends what browser you're using02:51
lusosectorso distro upgrade will push me to 15.0402:51
daftykinstoter: err i wasn't...02:51
daftykinsdist-upgrade does _NOT_ upgrade release, no.02:51
lusosectorrgr02:52
toterdaftykins: uh... "must be something up with your install"02:52
cfhowlettlusosector, and distro upgrade is not the command suggested02:52
shleezydaftykins: oh my god, yes.. i am running firefox /facepalm (i swear i was running chrome hehe); long night lol02:52
daftykins:D02:52
cfhowlettshleezy, break time!02:52
daftykinstoter: oy vey, mr.pedantic tonight aren't we?02:52
lusosectorso no terminal command for distro upgrade02:52
toterdaftykins: well... you started it... :)02:53
daftykinsi think you moving to 15.04 is a mistake, but it's also 4am so i give up02:53
cfhowlettlusosector, false.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade             for the latest currently installed version02:53
daftykinstoter: just calling you out for bad advice is all, no need to get your underwear in a twist :)02:53
cfhowlettlusosector, sudo do-release-upgrade for the next available supported version02:53
cfhowlettlusosector, again: 14.04 is an LTS release and is generally preferable for most users02:54
shleezydaftykins: actually, same problem.. i have chromium open and no sound, but video plays.02:54
daftykinsshleezy: did you maybe update the plugin during this run? could close all browser instances / log out + in / restart to confirm02:55
lusosectorcfhowlett i would rather try it. could help, are not. probably will be better02:55
shleezydaftykins: possibly, brb gonna reboot. or does logging out and in of session do the same?02:56
daftykinsmight as well restart02:56
shleezykk rbb02:56
lusosectorsays no new release02:57
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cfhowlettlusosector, check your software update settings.  right now, it's looking for the next LTS and there isn't one ...02:57
shleezydaftykins: sigh same thing bud02:58
lusosectorso trusty-backports02:58
totereverybody giving bad advice today, huh...02:59
cfhowlett??? no02:59
shleezytoter: not at all, people have been giving awesome advice today.02:59
daftykinsshleezy: ah well bed time for me :>03:00
cfhowlettlusosector, system > software & updates >> updates >> "notify me of a new ubuntu version for"  TIME TO CHOOSE03:00
UniqueID@search the kite runner03:00
shleezydaftykins: thanks anways mate03:00
daftykinsnp03:00
UniqueIDopps03:00
lusosectorgot it03:00
lusosectordidnt see that lol03:00
liquidsnakeyo03:00
sirius2I am trying to burn EasyRE for windows ten on USB and it is not working03:01
shleezydaftykins: actually, i just fixed the issue!03:01
daftykinsdon't tell me it was on mute... :D03:01
lusosectorgot it going. if i get rebooted thanks guys03:01
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shleezydaftykins: no, for some reason my sound settings weren't set to headset.. it was like disabled or something, so i selected it and BAAM sound03:02
shleezydaftykins: so.. yeah muted LOL03:02
shleezythis is a little off-topic, but Im trying to get my game Everquest Project 1999 to work, i copy pasta from my WIN drive to Ubuntu, and when i go to log in it works, but then i select my server then log in, where the loading screen would be, the game crashes.03:03
toteryou copy what?03:04
shleezytoter: copied my game to .wine03:04
LordSesshomarushleezy: have you tried installing under ubuntu?  Its been my experience that alot of games depend on certain values being set in the registry that arent there when you just copy files03:06
shleezyLordSesshomaru: another buddy of mine said he copy pasted it from WIN to Ubuntu drive and it worked, hmm yeah i may have to reinstall03:07
LordSesshomarushleezy: I'd definitely try that first, just my 2c03:07
VolundError splicing file: Value too large for defined data type03:14
VolundI'm copying from my NTFS to my Ext4 partition using Unity's built-in file manager and getting this on a tiny amount of files. Most of them are pictures03:14
VolundGoogling it doesn't quite give me a full answer for recent stuff...03:15
beerusquit03:21
brunchbCan anyone school me on the differences between ext3 file system and ext403:22
cfhowlettbrunchb, ext4 is the default and best supported and recommended.  ext3 ... ain't03:23
Xnetany security chatroom03:24
reisiobrunchb: ext4 is modern patches to ext303:24
brunchbcfhowlett: So is ext3 is just being replaced by ext403:24
reisiounsurprisingly, the 4 is basically a version03:24
brunchbreisio: ok thanks03:24
reisiothe latest03:24
cfhowlettbrunchb, not "is".  has been for quite some time now03:24
reisioyeah the early bugs are gone now03:24
brunchbcdhowlett: Im new to this, I don't know much03:25
brunchbok thanks for the clear up on that03:25
cfhowlettbrunchb, not to worry.  why do you ask?03:25
brunchbcfhowlett: currently working through a book and Im creating a new file system on a flash drive03:26
cfhowlettbrunchb, sounds like fun.  suggest you go with ext4.03:27
brunchbI was wondering what file system to use if a have a linux partition03:27
brunchbif that sentence even makes any sense lol03:27
shleezystupid question - when im downloading a game would i want to select WIN or Mac? - which is ideal for ubuntu?03:27
cfhowlettbrunchb, you mean a flash drive for bottin linux03:28
cfhowlettshleezy, so far as I know, mac games do not run on ubuntu/wine or virtual?03:28
brunchbcfhowlett: No Im actually changing the file system on the boot drive from FAT16 to ext403:29
brunchbflash*03:29
reisioshleezy: what game?03:29
quiet_nerdhello! I'm using ubuntu MATE dual boot along Win7, and GRUB has a custom appearance that has to redraw each time I move the selection, and it does so slowly. I'd rather revert it to the black-and-white default appearance, how can I do this?03:29
cfhowlettbrunchb, most systems can boot ntfs/fat32 flashdrives.03:29
shleezyreisio project 1999 (everquest 1 Classic Private server)03:29
brunchbYa it boots no problem03:29
shleezyreisio: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=265103:30
brunchbit's not a booting issue03:30
reisioshleezy: so everquest (1)?03:30
shleezyaye03:30
reisioshleezy: it apparently works via Wine03:30
reisioso win3203:30
reisioemulation of Mac OS is pretty underdeveloped by comparison03:30
reisioand the things that should "just work" because Mac OS and GNU/Linux are both Unixes rarely actually do03:31
reisiounless they're GUIless03:31
reisioand sometimes not even then03:31
reisioObjC/Cocoa is a strange beast03:31
reisiohttps://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=22903:31
quiet_nerdsomething like vim or irssi will play nicely on either in most cases, but wine won't03:31
reisioquiet_nerd: ?03:32
shleezyReScO: are those all directed to me?03:32
reisioshleezy: yup03:32
quiet_nerdrelatively basic terminal apps like vim or irssi or emacs or nano, text editors, will play nicely on linux and mac03:32
quiet_nerdbut something much more robust with lots of moving parts like HexChat for instance would need major tweaking from linux to mac or vice versa03:33
quiet_nerdor something, don't listen to me03:34
downtersquiet_nerd: ok03:34
quiet_nerdanyways is there a way to remove custom grub appearances?03:35
shleezyreisio: i had a guildmate in eq (when i was in WIN7, he told me that he was using windows and installed ubuntu, and copied the game over straight from windows to ubuntu, and im assuming used wine to make it work, i myself have the game installed on WIN already, and would prefer to just do what he did if you know how he approached it, if not ill prob have to re-install and reconfig all my keybinds and other stuff :-(03:36
downtersshleezy: maybe the data files.03:37
reisioshleezy: copying will probably work fine, as for the specifics of utilizing Wine, click a version link at the left on the page I linked you to03:37
quiet_nerdshleezy: so long as it doesn't use anything crazy like DirectX or DotNet it should work fine, just copy over data files03:37
downtersquiet_nerd: you have no idea.03:38
reisioit'll work fine, it's in Wine's appdb as gold03:38
downtersData files aren't executables.03:39
shleezywhen i do, it loads the login screen, then i log in.. then the server page comes up, and once i select the server ( on windows this would prompt a loading screen then into your character list, when i do this with wine my game pretty much tabs over where the loading screen would be, then crash.)03:39
reisionow as to why you're playing an MMORPG you obviously used to play about a decade ago still...03:39
* cfhowlett still has Deus Ex installed ...03:39
reisioinstalled isn't playing :p03:39
shleezyreisio: it's hardcore :-) POOPSOCK :D03:39
VolundSo guys03:39
reisiodownters: :)03:39
reisioVolund: eyap?03:40
downtersVolund: so what03:40
downtersshleezy: data files may be used on a cloned version of the program for linux.03:41
VolundI'm looking for an editor/IDE/something that will help me sift through, edit, and maintain several dozen text files written in a ludicrously obscure code language for which there are no hilighting rules - yet I still want highlighted/matching of () [] {} etc. I previouisly used Notepad++. Currently trying out sublime text 3....03:41
Volundthe files I'm working with look like this:03:42
shleezywhere should i be moving the folder if im moving it from WIN HDD to my ubuntu drive03:42
Volundhttps://github.com/volundmush/mushcode/blob/master/Bulletin%20Board%20System%20-%20BBS.txt03:42
VolundI think you will quickly see why I want a good editor.03:42
reisioVolund: what lang?03:43
reisionotepad is a scintilla frontend, IIRC, so you can probably both 1) use a native Unixy scintilla client and 2) steal notepad++'s syntax highlighting03:43
reisioalthough if it didn't have an explicit listing for the lang, probably any scintilla frontend will do just as well03:43
reisiosince it'd be some default generic thing03:43
Volundscintilla. :D I now have a thing to look up03:44
downtersVolund: an editor won't help a person who can't write03:44
VolundOi, I can write just fine.03:44
reisioVolund: it's just the backend that notepad++ uses03:44
reisiolots of editors are based on it03:44
reisioincluding a few cross platform ones03:44
Volundawesome.03:44
reisiohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintilla_%28software%29#Software_based_on_Scintilla03:45
shleezyreisio: the program (unidentified) has encountered a serious problem and needs to close, is what pops up once i run EQ99 off my desktop03:45
reisioscite, codeblocks, at a glance, are available for Unix systems03:45
Volundlanguage uh. technically it would be called MUSHcode or softcode. it is a sort of interpreted language that's run using the permissions and perspective of objects within the game server. for a MU* so MUD, MUSH, MUX, etc. technically for MUX or MUSH.03:45
Volundthe downsides of the language:03:45
downtersshleezy: what's the game03:45
reisioshleezy: read this page: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2939 - or try using playonlinux if it caters to everquest03:46
VolundNo formatting AT ALL (everything must be a single line), no data types (everything is a string, even numbers), no separation of code or data...03:46
Volundand it's HELL to read it as you can see.03:46
* Volund invesigates scintilla now03:46
reisioVolund: I'm guessing you'd prefer something like notepad++ for your general editing purposes as well, so this should work out fine03:46
Volundyou are talking to one of maybe 10-20 people who actually writes this stuff anymore to any degree of usefulness.03:46
Volundreisio: oh yes, definitely03:47
shleezyreisio: will do brb03:47
reisioVolund: oh geany is scintilla-based, too03:47
reisioVolund: I'd try that first03:47
reisioI use Vim, but I put geany on installs I make for other people as a generic text editor03:48
reisioincluding on Windows, as a replacement for notepad and any other text editing purposes03:48
shleezyreisio: not gonna lie, im pretty confused on what to do man, this is my first day using this OS in 3years so im a bit rusty, and didn't use wine much03:52
Volund:D03:53
Volundthank you for the help03:53
cfhowlettshleezy, start with reading:  https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=293903:53
Volundshleezy: try PlayOnLinux if you want WINE-made-simple03:53
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reisioshleezy: try this: https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/how-i-got-eq-to-run-on-linux-with-playonlinux-pon.1185/03:53
VolundI'm using it with MUSHclient03:53
reisioyou can just say 'Wine'03:53
VolundI have no idea why I capitalized that.03:54
Volundthe last two days have been pretty awful, despite many awesome things to feel good about.03:55
Volundso I'm not thinking terribly straight right now.03:55
VolundIn fact, actually feel vaguely ill in my gut and am hoping it will be gone tomorrow. :( but!03:55
SpecVolund: lol, MUSH03:55
VolundSpec: Yes, MUSH.03:56
VolundI am a MUSHcoder and I'm sick of it03:56
SpecI've played me 10,000 hours of MUDs03:56
VolundI'm moving to PYTHON via #evennia03:56
Specused to write C for ze codebase03:56
Volundonce I figure out a name for my project.03:56
VolundThis channel has an unusual amount of trolls who throw insults over private messages too. Is that normal? I don't tend to hang out on huge IRC places.03:57
cfhowlettVolund, sadly it is not unusual.  happily, such behavior violates THIS communities guidelines.  report such behavior to the ops04:00
cfhowlett!guidelines | Volund04:00
ubottuVolund: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines04:00
riohendryuy04:04
reisioahoy04:05
riohendryhallo04:05
riohendryhallo04:06
Volundby the way04:18
VolundDoes anyone have a good Youtube channel/playlist/etc they might recommend for anyone giving tutorials on Linux stuff?04:20
cfhowlett!manual | Volund,04:20
ubottuVolund,: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/04:20
VolundI've been hunting around, watched a couple, but someone here might have a motherload to recommend.04:20
cfhowlettor www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads                     read issue #0.  get issue #1.  read.  get issue #2. read. ...04:20
Volundhaha yes I have the website and manual there certainly. I was just wondering if anyone did videos. Like watching youtube stuff before I go to bed. :P04:21
VolundI like*04:21
* Volund installs geany, samba, openssl...04:25
Volundpython-virtualenv... so many packages. @_@04:25
OneM_IndustriesJust a question, can cryptowall 2.0 hit Ubuntu machines?04:32
Volundbelatedly, geany is pretty close to what I wanted. Wish it hilighted my () in red and not blue and working on fixing that, but I like it04:34
Volundthat blue is so faint and close to black that it's hard to see. D:04:34
reisiosorry, what's the language actually called, again?04:34
notaeonOneM_Industries: i don't know specifically about cryptowall 2.0, but with all viruses & malware etc it's possible to have that data on a linux machine whether the code runs or not depends on how it's made04:35
Volundreisio: MUSHcode. you're probably not going to find support for it anywhere, it's more niche than the bacteria aboard the ISS.04:35
reisioOneM_Industries: what is it?04:35
notaeonransomware04:36
OneM_IndustriesIt encrypts your files, and if you want the key, you fork over several thousand dollars.04:36
reisioVolund: http://docs.notepad-plus-plus.org/index.php?title=User_Defined_Language_Files04:36
reisioVolund: I'm guessing the .xml thing is a generic scintilla thing04:37
reisioOneM_Industries: that's basically all win3204:37
reisioit needn't be, but it is04:37
OneM_IndustriesOk.04:37
reisiopeople downloading random executables and then running them will always compromise their security04:37
reisiobut if they're win32 executables, they won't do much on Unix systems usually04:38
OneM_IndustriesOK, makes sense.04:38
Volundwhat reisio said. the myth is that linux doesn't get viruses, and that really is just a myth. it's more accurate to say that virus writers don't care about linux as much. if through any means you run an executable that wants to do bad stuff, bad stuff will happen.04:38
reisioeven on Windows, you basically just need to run an AV04:38
reisiowell, viruses aren't trojans04:38
reisiotrojans have nothing to do with any OS or architecture04:39
Volundwell... malware.04:39
OneM_IndustriesYeah, I need to find a good Linux AV.04:39
reisioif you run something you aren't familiar with, it can do anything it likes04:39
reisiowear a condom04:39
reisioit's that simple04:39
reisioOneM_Industries: you don't really, but clamav is _the_ unix av04:39
Volundall it can do is screw over whatever it has permission to screw over though, which is only your home folder unless it's running with sudo in which case oh god.04:39
OneM_IndustriesAVG left junk all over the system, and kept 5+ processes running all the time in the background.04:39
OneM_IndustriesHm.04:40
VolundSome good protection against ransomware is to also maintain a disconnected backup that's not mounted except when backing up.04:40
OneM_IndustriesYeah, I need to work on that.04:40
Volundit can't encrypt what it can't reach.04:40
reisioOneM_Industries: you don't want to use any proprietary software if you can help it04:40
reisioWindows-style antivirus apps are one step from being malware/hostageware themselves these days04:40
reisiothey all require dedicated uninstallers, you can't uninstall them ordinarily04:40
OneM_IndustriesMight just add a little switch to my case for my secondary backup drive's power leads.04:40
OneM_IndustriesYeah.04:41
reisiothey constantly yell at you "OMFG YOU AREN'T SAFE HIDE YOUR CHILDREN", etc.04:41
reisioif it's an AV on Windows, you won't want it04:41
OneM_IndustriesHm.04:41
VolundI personally gave up on antiviruses for windows. I've found that most of them aren't useful when they need to be useful.04:41
reisioGNU/Linux has had a few viruses (virus != malware in general), but they were mostly PoCs for outdated versions of things04:41
reisioagain, trojans happen because of how users behave, not because of what software they use04:42
notaeonpeople of color?04:42
notaeon:)04:42
OneM_IndustriesYeah, Avast and MBAM are the best combo for windows in my opinion.04:42
reisionotaeon: yeah?04:42
reisioavast needs a dedicated uninstaller now, too04:42
reisioit's dead to me04:42
reisioI don't even use Windows myself and I won't install Avast! on other people's computers anymore04:42
reisiodoesn't really matter04:42
Volundmy strategy has been to use uBlock, google chrome, smart backups, and scan with malwarebytes periodically in case anything slips through. it works, provided you aren't stupid.04:42
reisioviruses haven't been a problem for years and years04:42
reisioall the problems are things people voluntarily run04:43
OneM_IndustriesAh.04:43
reisioyou can't protect against that with software04:43
OneM_IndustriesYeah.04:43
reisioyou have to teach people to be less stupid04:43
Volundreisio: well a resident shield can attempt to scan it and kill it before you run it. but... if you do so anyways...04:43
reisioWindows trains you to click yes04:43
OneM_IndustriesYeah, that is my parents.04:43
Volundyeah. D:04:43
OneM_IndustriesOoh.. clicky...04:43
Volundthat stupid UAC thing04:43
reisiofor friends that won't switch from windows, try OSSEC04:44
Volundmost people are too dumb to know what half of the filenames they see are.04:44
VolundI am not.04:44
reisiomost people don't know what a filename is04:44
Volundthe UAC 'do you really wanna run this' thing would be a good idea, IF everyone was educated enough to understand it.04:45
OneM_IndustriesYeah.04:45
Volundsince they are not, it's really only serving to be an annoyane.04:45
Volundannoyance*04:45
reisionope, pointless04:45
reisioit's about as useful as a popup that says "Hi I'm your OS, and I'm here to get in your way FU!"04:46
Volundwhat I really hate are all of these things you can install that each try to install six more things.04:47
VolundAND just to make it WORSE04:47
Volundyou go to UNINSTALL this AUGHware and it tricks you into installing MORE THINGS.04:47
VolundExplicitly choosing to NOT install these other things while you're uninstalling the thing you didn't want in the first place.04:47
VolundI don't care if it wants to throw an ad up in the uninstaller but good word04:48
Volundthat's just sleazy.04:48
reisioyeah Windows is a great way to murder time04:48
reisiojust murder it to death04:48
Volundalso interesting, I haven't had to deal with intallers at all yet.04:48
Volundjust realized that.04:48
Volundinstallers*04:49
reisiopeople at work want me to use Visual Studio :p nto having that04:49
Volundapt-get is so simple for 99% of the things.04:49
reisiowhen you get an app to work by closing it and opening it again, that app is not worth using04:49
reisioand if I have to explain to you why it isn't worth using at that point, then you aren't worth talking to :p04:49
OneM_IndustriesSome things are only windows tools, though.04:52
OneM_IndustriesAnd at least in my case, some of those are needed.04:52
reisioOneM_Industries: name one04:53
OneM_IndustriesSolidworks.04:53
OneM_IndustriesThe thing that I am having to install right now.04:53
OneM_IndustriesIndustry standard CAD software.04:54
OneM_IndustriesModeling, analysis, production, etc.04:54
reisiowhat's that other app dassault sells04:56
reisiooh yeah, catia04:56
reisioUnix has plenty of cad software04:57
reisiowe even have cad software that was used to design weapons of mass destruction04:57
reisiosolid state modelling isn't exactly rocket science anymore04:58
OneM_IndustriesYeah, it really isn't.04:58
OneM_IndustriesI have to go though.04:58
OneM_IndustriesBed awaits.04:58
OneM_IndustriesUgh, the morning is going to suck...04:58
reisioyeah it is04:59
reisioeither that or it's going to kick ass04:59
reisio:D04:59
OneM_IndustriesNo, it is going to come way, way too early...04:59
reisiobest not to even sleep at all, then :)05:00
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samthewildonehow come nothing I setup for my "startup application" never works ?05:11
samthewildoneI did a custom command, didn't work, made a script, didn't work.05:11
samthewildoneI'm on 15.04_64bit | fresh installed and updated.05:11
riohendryuy05:15
reisiouy!05:16
keyvinhey, tyring to help a friend install 15.0405:23
keyvinIt's hanging on bringing up the network interfaces05:23
keyvinforever literally seems to be forever05:23
wileeesamthewildone, try https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/startup-applications.html05:23
keyvinis there a way to interrupt this so it will finish booting05:24
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genewitchinstalling wubi on windows 10, any gotchas?05:41
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meduhi06:07
medui have problem installing driver for zte modem mf66706:08
meduand help06:08
meduthe driver that came with it would not install06:09
meduandy help06:09
meduany help06:10
medui really need to install this modem06:10
meduplease can any body help am new to linux06:12
meduzte modem driver06:13
martmanim trying to share a directory via nfs to a centos vm. for some reason when i run mount in the guest it just hangs. even with -vvv i dont see any errors06:21
martmanmy exports file:  /home/martman/nfs/vm vm(rw,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)06:21
martmanany ideas?06:21
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eagles0513875_hey guys I am trying to run skype in empathy on 14.04 yet for some reason I cannot seem to find it on the list of supported protocols06:33
DalekSecSo trying to run one program in another?  Like running Chromium in Firefox?06:34
eagles0513875_DalekSec: ?06:34
eagles0513875_you know how you can connect to facebook, jabber etc through apps like empathy06:35
eagles0513875_is it possible to do the same with skype06:35
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DalekSecExcept, Skype is an application, not exactly an open Protocol.06:36
DalekSec!info empathy-skype06:37
ubottuempathy-skype (source: pidgin-skype): Skype plugin for libpurple messengers (Empathy-specific files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 20140930+svn665+dfsg-1 (vivid), package size 2 kB, installed size 63 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)06:37
eagles0513875_DalekSec: thing is i did find wiht empathy you can add a skype account if you run empathy-accounts06:37
DalekSecKind of has an API, though.06:37
eagles0513875_there are two options there06:37
eagles0513875_DalekSec: i already have that installed but now my question is is that broken on trusty?06:37
eagles0513875_!upgrade06:37
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade06:37
eagles0513875_ok another question DalekSec is it possible to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04?06:38
DalekSecThey're working on it so you can upgrade from stable to stable, skipping EOL releases.06:38
eagles0513875_DalekSec: so whats my option at this point06:39
eagles0513875_to get to 15.0406:39
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schwizar1is this working now06:41
schwizar1what do you see my name as06:41
eagles0513875_schwizar1: i hear you06:41
schwizar1i wonder why it cropped the t and put a 106:41
schwizar1is that normal did i do something wrong06:41
schwizar1using irssi06:42
schwizar1oh06:42
schwizar1i bet its cause my windows box is still up06:42
schwizar1could that be06:42
eagles0513875_yes if you cant identify with your original nickname it finds something else which is available06:43
schwizar1anyonbe else seen something like that06:43
eagles0513875_nothing wrong with that06:43
schwizar1i did identify with my original06:43
schwizar1let me try again06:43
eagles0513875_then you have nothing to worry about06:43
schwizar1oh well06:44
schwizar1as long as im in i just think thats weird06:44
schwizar1like why not just let me use it on both06:44
schwizar1maybe cause my user is different on this box06:44
schwizar1exit06:44
eagles0513875_schwizar1: stop joining and leaving06:45
schwizar1how else am i supposed to troubleshoot this crap06:46
schwizar1i got it figured out now so no need to pick a fight homie06:46
eagles0513875_schwizar1: THERE IS NO PROBLEM its working fine06:46
schwizar1yeah i know that now06:46
schwizar1sorry im not the freaking master linux irssi user you are06:46
schwizar1im working on getting irssi and tmux to get along06:47
schwizar1and for irssi to autolog into my name when i open it06:47
schwizar1and im quite happy with the results thank you very much06:47
schwizar1sorry to inconvenience you so bad06:47
DJ_HaMsTaHELP! my locale is not changing even after using sudo locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8 and sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales06:48
eagles0513875_schwizar1: ok i might have come off a bit harsh and i apologize but that constant quitting and joining i was seeing the bot in here quieting you that is why you were not able to talk.06:48
DJ_HaMsTait stays as LC_CTYPE="POSIX"06:48
schwizar1i didnt know it was that bad sorry06:48
schwizar1i got it figured out now06:48
schwizar1tmux and irssi together this is great06:48
schwizar1ever use tmux?06:48
Norbintmux and weechat is even greater :o06:49
Norbinimo06:49
eagles0513875_schwizar1: no i havent06:49
schwizar1and what would be a fun thing to do with my new debian server06:49
eagles0513875_i use kvirc a gui based client06:49
schwizar1its awesome06:49
schwizar1https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Magicninja/dotfiles/master/.tmux.conf06:49
schwizar1there is a link to my conf file for tmux just put that in ~/.tmux.conf after you install06:50
schwizar1i wrote it myself and its pretty tight06:50
schwizar1you move using vim movement and i added a ctrl a that allows you to send commands to all windows at once06:50
schwizar1feel free to check it out and if you do anything cool push to my repo so i can se06:50
schwizar1see06:50
eagles0513875_ahh yes tmux now i remember what it is lol06:50
schwizar1what you dont like it?06:51
eagles0513875_i do but i hardly use it06:51
eagles0513875_usually on terminal i open up multiple tabs like a browser lol06:51
eagles0513875_might consider setting it up06:51
schwizar1if you do check out my config and leave me a note on my github account06:52
schwizar1i hope you think its cool06:52
schwizar1its at least better than the crap it comes with06:52
schwizar1but you wil have to read it to understand how to move06:52
schwizar1unless you are super comfortable with vim06:52
schwizar1i need a good idea for something to make of my new debian server06:58
DJ_HaMsTahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12464809/ locale keeps switcing to POSIX upon reboot, how can i fix?06:59
eagles0513875_!locale06:59
ubottuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale/06:59
eagles0513875_DJ_HaMsTa: ^ you tried to follow those links06:59
DJ_HaMsTaeagles0513875_, i will. thank you07:01
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montage_auusing sudo apt-get install gimp I'm getting 404 not found07:04
eagles0513875_no problem DJ_HaMsTa07:04
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schwizardok i got this now07:10
nishu-tryinghardI have this packages held error http://paste.ubuntu.com/12464906/07:16
nishu-tryinghardi tried searching google but the solution in the forums didnt help.07:17
nishu-tryinghardiam using canonical partner and independent PPA07:17
lotuspsychje!ppa | nishu-tryinghard07:18
ubottunishu-tryinghard: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge07:18
lotuspsychjenishu-tryinghard: remove non-supported ppa's first mate07:18
lotuspsychje!ppapurge | nishu-tryinghard07:18
ubottunishu-tryinghard: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html07:18
nishu-tryinghardi only have the supported one. I dont have any third party repos. I only have canonical and independent which were enabled when i installed 14.04.307:19
nishu-tryinghardill post my source.list here07:20
lotuspsychjenishu-tryinghard: ok07:20
superfoxhow d i reser a root maintenance password07:21
superfoxhelp07:21
lotuspsychjesuperfox: explain what you have done exactly?07:22
lotuspsychje!info octave trusty07:22
ubottuoctave (source: octave): GNU Octave language for numerical computations. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.8.1-1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 829 kB, installed size 2946 kB07:22
nishu-tryinghardlotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12464937/07:23
superfoxi reset my password in grub 2 recovery but forgot it ow i am stuck at root maintenance password when i drop down to my root menu i have tried every thing,07:24
lotuspsychjenishu-tryinghard: not sure mate,n have you tryed a sudo apt-get update yet?07:25
nishu-tryinghardya it doesnt show any updates07:25
nishu-tryinghardsince 5 days no updates07:25
superfoxyes07:25
lotuspsychjenishu-tryinghard: not upgrade, sudo apt-get update, try please07:26
nishu-tryinghardya i tried both07:26
lotuspsychjehmm07:26
cfhowlettdist-upgrade??07:26
high_heisenberghi guys, I've just upgraded my old PC to 4GB ram but htop only shows me 3386M. AFAIK my system is 64bit (arch=x86_64), what can be the problem?07:26
nishu-tryinghardya that too07:26
superfoxcant use terminal because i get the same password prompt07:26
lotuspsychjehigh_heisenberg: thats normal mate07:26
montage_authe issue I had were australian mirrors seem to be offline07:27
montage_auchanges software and updates to use different mirrors and all is good07:27
nishu-tryinghardBut the issue is because of held packages07:28
nishu-tryinghard?07:28
high_heisenberglotuspsychje: ok, thank you!07:28
lotuspsychje!info preload | high_heisenberg install this for a boost on your system07:29
ubottuhigh_heisenberg install this for a boost on your system: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (vivid), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB07:29
nishu-tryinghardlotuspsychje: iam changing mirror to see if tha changes anything but anyway the issue due to held packages. So how can change in mirror solve this?07:30
lotuspsychje!sources | nishu-tryinghard07:32
ubottunishu-tryinghard: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.07:32
cfhowlettnishu-tryinghard, system > software-updater > settings > Ubuntu Software > download from ...07:32
nishu-tryinghardlotuspsychje:  No, i kknow how to change mirror and i did that already and not it is downloading the meta data correctly.07:34
lotuspsychjenishu-tryinghard: try what cfhowlett suggest please07:34
nishu-tryinghardnow*07:34
amazoniantoadHey guys07:35
nishu-tryinghardlotuspsychje: is there anything like delta packges for chrome PPA ?07:37
superfoxcan anyone help me to restore my pc from root maintenance password prompt07:38
lotuspsychjenishu-tryinghard: not sure what your trying to do mate..07:43
lotuspsychjesuperfox: wich ubuntu do you have, and did you forget your admin password?07:43
nishu-tryinghardlotuspsychje: actually i use fedora and wanted to try ubuntu too but so far i am not used to the way updates and apt works. In fedora i can save bandwidth using delta packages which only download the changes and rebuild the packages when updating.07:45
lotuspsychjenishu-tryinghard: ok, and your end-goal is installing chrome?07:46
nishu-tryinghardlotuspsychje: na just to get rid of that held package error which i came across when installing octave.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12464906/07:47
superfoxlotuspsychje i have version 14.0407:48
superfoxand tes i did07:49
nishu-tryinghardlotuspsychje: after changing the mirror i can see some updates now. So ill let you know after the update is finished.07:49
lotuspsychjenishu-tryinghard: sudo apt-get install -f try this also07:49
lotuspsychjesuperfox: you cant just break an admin pass unless you crack it with john the ripper or so...but thats gonna take ages, better reinstall your system07:50
superfoxlotuspsychje i have version 14.0407:51
amazoniantoadsuperfox07:51
cfhowlettsuperfox, reinstall for sanity07:51
amazoniantoadI cant, because im killing zombies07:51
amazoniantoadbut you dont have to do a fresh install07:51
amazoniantoadits an easy fix07:51
amazoniantoadjust keep googling07:51
amazoniantoador swimming07:51
amazoniantoadi forget07:51
lotuspsychje!behelpful | amazoniantoad07:52
ubottuamazoniantoad: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.07:52
TragicM3LONneed help07:52
amazoniantoadlotus, its more helpful than your shitty advice07:52
amazoniantoadso07:52
TragicM3LONany service that I start, i do status, and it says stop/waiting07:52
lotuspsychjeTragicM3LON: ask your question in the channel mate07:52
superfoxlotuspsychje i have version 14.0407:52
lotuspsychjesuperfox: reinstall your system07:52
amazoniantoadsuperfox: dont07:53
amazoniantoadDon't do that07:53
cfhowlettamazoniantoad, no need for or permission for profanity please07:53
amazoniantoad!behelpful | lotuspsychje07:53
ubottulotuspsychje: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.07:53
TragicM3LONso when i do like "sudo service transmission-daemon start" and then do "sudo service transmission-daemon status" it shows stopped/waiting07:53
TragicM3LONdoes the same thing with my plex07:53
TragicM3LONit's like i can't get any of the services to start07:54
lotuspsychjeTragicM3LON: wich ubuntu version07:54
TragicM3LON14.04.307:54
lotuspsychje!upstart | TragicM3LON start here07:54
ubottuTragicM3LON start here: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/07:54
amazoniantoadcfhowlett: is there a list of non approved words?07:55
cfhowlett!guidelines | amazoniantoad07:56
ubottuamazoniantoad: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines07:56
amazoniantoadBladerunner is so legit07:56
superfoxlotuspsfch i only have a usb key and its not working is there any way to  reinstall?07:57
lotuspsychje!usb | superfox make a working one07:57
ubottusuperfox make a working one: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent07:57
TragicM3LONwhen i do "start transmission-daemon" it says it's start/running on process XXXX but when i do status it still says "stop/waiting"07:57
DJJeff0xf7fdace0 in ?? ()08:01
DJJeff(gdb) bt08:01
DJJeff#6  0xf72eca83 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.608:01
DJJeff#0 to #7 just shows ??08:02
DJJeffis my libc for i386 broke?08:02
TJ-DJJeff: What makes you ask that?08:04
DJJeffalot of my i386 games and applications are broken08:04
DJJeffnot just 108:04
DJJefffor example openttd wont play music n64 nes sega emu crash on game load08:05
TJ-DJJeff: what is the Ubuntu release version, and the hardware architecture?08:05
DJJeff14.04 trusty 64 bit08:06
TJ-DJJeff: So to use 32-bit programs you will have enabled 'i386' as a foreign architecture, so it has Multilib support?08:07
DJJeffOS: Linux 3.19.0-26-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "trusty" 14.04 ** CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         870  @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.93GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7.8GiB, 66.7% free **08:07
DJJeffVGA: NVIDIA Corporation GK106 [GeForce GTX 660] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia **08:07
DJJeffi386 is enabled08:08
DJJeffit shows up in synaptic package manager08:08
TJ-DJJeff: Have you checked for broken/held packages using "apt-get -f install" ?08:08
DJJeffyup08:09
CM707`Hey could anyone tell me if "http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/" is online/working? I am trying to install/update stuff and nothing is working08:09
CM707`I'm just getting a few pages worth of 404 not found messages..08:10
cfhowlettCM707`, same here08:10
DJJeffgetting 404 here08:10
anonySo, I'm on gnome-look.org and I'm eager to customize my desktop. What should I know? I can use GTK3+ and what else?08:10
DJJeffhttp://au.archive.ubuntu.com/08:10
DJJeffApache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Server at au.archive.ubuntu.com Port 8008:10
TJ-DJJeff: I'd suggest running a failing program under control of strace to get an idea of what might be going wrong, and pastebin the log08:11
CM707`Okay, it would just be the Australian one that is down right? I should be able to change to a different mirror?08:11
cfhowlettCM707`, yes you can change08:11
DJJeffusing sed and changing up /etc/apt/sources.list08:11
DJJeffyes08:11
CM707`Okay, I've never had to do that... Which I use the command line and don't have the interface. Is there a command to change it or I have to edit the sources.list manually?08:12
DJJeff$ sudo sed -i 's/au.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list08:12
DJJeff$ sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update08:12
anonyNailed it, I can probably use anything (14.04)08:12
DJJeffTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12465184/08:14
DJJefflooks legit right?08:15
CM707`DJJeff: I ran those commands and the second one outputted this error "E: Method gave invalid 103 Redirect message"08:15
TJ-DJJeff: no holes anyhow; try the strace08:16
DJJeffCM707`: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list08:16
CM707`ok08:16
DJJeffCM707`: also check if you have anything bad in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/08:17
TJ-CM707`: are you behind a proxy of some type?08:17
CM707`No TJ-, there was an error (my fault) in the sources.list it's all working now by the looks of it :)08:18
CM707`Thanks for your help08:18
DJJeffCM707`: your welcome08:18
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nshdid someone change their repo-signing keys?08:23
nsh': GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>'08:24
nshit would be supergreat if that [and the half dozen similar] errors were fixed or fixable somehow08:24
cfhowlettnsh, yeah, that does happen08:25
nshhow2fix?08:25
pesaribad mirror perhaps, remove gb. from the url08:25
karan_-hey anyone got idea somehow my laptop not shutting down properly08:25
karan_-it is stuck on ubuntu screen08:26
nshhmm08:26
anonyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12465266/ Has it been changed?08:26
karan_-same with reboot08:26
cfhowlettnsh, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12465267/08:26
nshon it08:26
badbodhkaran_-: run "dmseg|pastebinit" and share the url.08:27
surajhow to upgrade UBuntu 14.04 to 15.04 ?08:31
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nshfollowing cfhowlett's felt mostly fixed, but still this error 'W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D9885EE11591F4CD08:33
nsh'08:33
nshshould i just grab that key into gpg?08:34
nshbut it doesn't go to gpg; i guess apt stores it keys somewhere else08:35
karan__babodh: http://dpaste.com/20PQF3308:35
badbodhnsh: ppa page will have link to the gpg key. copy that key's contents into a text file and 'import' in software sources08:35
karan__sorry connection issue08:35
lvlephAnyone come across this? For some reason unity-settings-daemon can't connect to accessibility bus08:35
nshbadbodh, RIGHT ON08:35
badbodhkaran__: your freeze happens only on shutdown or boot too ?08:35
karan__badbodh:only on shutdown and reboot08:36
pais it possible to disable the software updater dialogn "the computer needs to restart"?08:37
badbodhkaran__: ...reboot is just a command to do shutdown+boot, there is no separate thing as 'reboot'. i'll assume it only happens on shutdown.08:38
badbodhkaran__: is yours a fresh install ? if not , how many days you've been using it08:38
karan__badbodh, i shifted from Linux Mint to ubuntu today08:38
karan__and yes its a fresh install08:39
badbodhand did your problem start from the first time you used it, or after any install/config editing08:39
karan__badbodh, from first time08:39
karan__had this issue in 14.04 too08:39
karan__that's why shifted to mint. but same issue in mint 17.108:40
badbodhdo you have any graphics card or wi-fi device, if yes what are the manufactureres08:40
karan__its a stock laptop, atheros wlan08:40
badbodhmint is basically ubuntu 14.04, just changing distros won;t help till we can pin down the issue08:40
badbodhgraphics card ? nvdia/ati ?08:41
karan__nope it got integrated intel graaphics08:41
karan__but when i was on Debian Jessie i have to install firmware-realtek and firmware-atheros08:42
karan__as they are non-free08:42
badbodhin jessie you have to enable non-free section by editing sources.list, but atheros don;t play with linux anyway so don;t bother08:42
karan__yes i used a differnt sources.list08:43
badbodhnow the reboot part, when you reboot does it freeze during shutdown or during next boot08:43
karan__shutdown08:43
karan__as you said reboot is just = shut + boot, problem is when shutting system down08:43
pai also tried mint a couple of days ago, then sticked to ubuntu08:43
pabut maybe i'll move from gnome-flashback to mate08:44
TJ-karan__: shutdown issues are usually caused by ACPI firmware issues; you can sometimes influence the behaviour by using "acpi_osi=Linux"08:44
TJ-karan__: Do you get different behaviour if the PC is booted/installed in UEFI mode rather than Legacy/BIOS currently - as your apstebin shows08:44
karan__TJ-, yes in UEFI things were working fine08:45
karan__but i got Grub issues with UEFI don't know but sometimes grub doesn't show up and it shows a simple white screen08:46
karan__when i turn system on08:46
karan__on UEFI08:46
TJ-karan__: I thought so; I'd suggest (re)installing Ubuntu in UEFI mode08:46
badbodhTJ-: thanks, i was about to go through the entire dmseg :P08:47
karan__but TJ- grub issue will still be there08:47
TJ-karan__: the whitescreen issue can be worked around - that's usually caused by the UEFI GPU driver not behaving quite as expected :)08:47
Tachyon_hello08:47
TJ-karan__: let me see if I can find the info on the workaround. I saw it a couple months ago08:47
nshfor future reference, the simplest incantation for me problem was: # apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys D9885EE11591F4CD08:47
karan__TJ-, Cool , in mean time should i start installing Ubuntu in UEFI?08:48
Tachyon_of course I came here with a problem :D08:48
nshyou can use gpg --search-keys to find the relevant keyserver08:48
TJ-karan__: When you do boot Ubuntu in UEFI mode - aside from the GRUB issue - does the system boot to Linux with a correct display?08:49
karan__TJ-, yep08:49
karan__if i force power down in white screen and then boot then grub shows out perfectly fine08:49
karan__TJ-, ^08:50
TJ-karan__: hmmm, does that equate to 'cold boot GRUB is fine' but 'warm boot (reboot) GRUB has problems' ?08:50
Karan_TJ-: yes08:50
Karan_Logged in via phone :)08:51
Karan_In bios now.08:51
anonyHow can I change the window Slide-bars?08:53
lotuspsychjeanony: scrollbars?08:54
anonylotuspsychje, just found it ^_^ Yes, I switched it to 'Legacy bars'08:55
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lotuspsychje!info unity-tweak-tool | anony handy program08:56
ubottuanony handy program: unity-tweak-tool (source: unity-tweak-tool): configuration tool for the Unity desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.6ubuntu2 (vivid), package size 325 kB, installed size 2550 kB08:56
Karan_Tj-, installing ubuntu08:59
Tachyon_hello. after I boot ubuntu and I've selected install ubuntu, few seconds later my screen it shows me a message like cannot display this video mode, please change res. ehat should I do ?09:05
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | Tachyon_ maybe try this?09:07
ubottuTachyon_ maybe try this?: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter09:07
anonyTachyon_, for starters did you try anything?09:07
Tachyon_"starters" ?09:07
anonyTachyon_, To begin with*09:08
Tachyon_yes, few days ago I came here and I ask the same question and the answer is to try to install with "vesa driver". I search it in the install screen, but I coundt find anything like VESA.09:09
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: what kind of grafix card do you have mate?09:10
Tachyon_gtx 97009:10
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: is that an optimus card?09:10
Tachyon_idk what you mean with optimus :D09:11
lotuspsychjeno its not, looked it up09:11
Tachyon_GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 970 OC WindForce 3X 4GB DDR5 256-bit09:11
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: wich ubuntu version are you trying to install09:11
Tachyon_ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso09:12
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: hmm that should work fine on your card09:12
Tachyon_my screen shows me it cannot show that resolution, to change it to 1280 x 1024.. yeah.. old screen09:12
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: your card uses hdmi or dvi or vga to your screen?09:13
Tachyon_my old screen uses a vga cable, but I use a vga-dvi adaptor09:13
lotuspsychjeok09:13
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: is there an 'auto' button on your monitor?09:13
Tachyon_Gembird 1x DVI-A Male - 1x VGA Female09:14
Tachyon_yes, it is09:14
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: what happens when you press09:14
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Tachyon_I use it only the image si more-lefty or more righty to centre it09:14
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lotuspsychjeTachyon_: have you tryed live usb mode?09:15
lotuspsychjeinstead of install09:15
Tachyon_um.. idk what is it09:15
Tachyon_I have never used Linux before :D09:15
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: you have 2 options at ubuntu usb install: try or install09:15
Tachyon_Yes, I have09:15
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: same resolution error?09:15
Tachyon_yes09:16
lotuspsychjehmm09:16
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: maybe look into bios, if settings are correcly09:16
Tachyon_I haven't modifies BIOS/UEFI settings09:16
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: try that nomodeset option09:17
Tachyon_the setting are like in the factory09:17
Tachyon_ok, I restart now and try09:18
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: thats with boot options F609:18
Tachyon_ok09:18
Tachyon_I restart now09:18
karanbadbodh, in UEFI shutdown working fine09:19
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Tachyon_I'm back :>09:29
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: any luck?09:29
Tachyon_nope09:30
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: what happened09:30
Tachyon_this http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/16/13/35/99/20150910.jpg09:30
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: thats a warning from your monitor, not ubuntu09:31
Tachyon_yes, didnt I mention this ?09:32
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: maybe your 'older' screen cant handle the monster card09:32
Tachyon_I thought is clear... sorry09:32
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: you have another screen or a friend that can help you test another monitor09:32
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: with dvi or hdmi09:33
Tachyon_it is my only screen and it will be too complicated to borrow a screen09:33
Tachyon_for transport09:34
Tachyon_too complicate for transport09:34
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: you could try a xubuntu or lubuntu perhaps, but my guess its your screen that doesnt like your cards resolution09:34
Tachyon_yes..09:34
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: did your same screen here work with another Os?09:34
Tachyon_my gtx 970 :(09:34
Tachyon_really now it works roght with windows 709:35
Tachyon_right *09:35
lotuspsychjehmm09:35
Tachyon_is the same computer09:35
linociscohi09:35
Tachyon_hi09:35
Tachyon_could I make the res lower ?09:36
linociscoI am now using internet from Nokia E-5 via usb cable09:36
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: try a xubuntu/lubuntu usb perhaps, see what it does there09:36
linociscousing on ubuntu desktop is fine09:36
linociscowhat about on server?09:36
lotuspsychjelinocisco: maybe ask the #ubuntu-server guys09:36
Tachyon_ubuntu worked fine in my old computer :(09:37
linociscolotuspsychje, i did. no reply ever09:37
lotuspsychjelinocisco: ok, re-ask here once in a while then09:37
Tachyon_cant I boot it with processor's graphic ?09:37
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: you can try change bios settings, like i suggested before yes09:37
Tachyon_no idea how to do it :D09:38
Tachyon_in this bios09:38
linociscolotuspsychje, ok. let me wait for 3min before next request09:38
Tachyon_in this pc bios09:38
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: normally your card supports intel, but you can ask howto in ##hardware09:38
Tachyon_HD 460009:39
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Tachyon_it's a Intel Haswell Refresh, Core i7 4790 3.6GHz, can you guide me how to do this settings ?09:40
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: ask in ##hardware please09:40
lotuspsychjeTachyon_: this isnt an ubuntu issue really09:40
Tachyon_ok thank you09:40
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Tachyon_Cannot send to channel: ##hardware is this normal :D ?09:46
lotuspsychje!register | Tachyon_09:48
ubottuTachyon_: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode09:48
Tachyon_hi10:00
Tachyon_Trying to install ubuntu I got this message http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/16/13/35/99/20150910.jpg on my screen. What should I do ?10:01
Tachyon_um .. NeverWinter ##hardware Cannot change nickname while banned on channel10:04
cfhowlettTachyon_, as explained earlier, this is a HARDWARE problem not a software problem.  lower your display resolution settings10:04
Tachyon_yes, im trying to write on hardware10:04
Tachyon_.... trying10:04
Tachyon_sorry if I writed again here10:04
SCHAAP137*wrote10:05
Tachyon_sorry if I wrote again here10:05
Tachyon_why I'm banned on hardware :( ?10:07
Technobliteratoris there any way to stop my desktop computer from thinking it is a laptop?10:08
TechnobliteratorI don't get why it gives me all this power management stuff slowing down my USB devices when I have no need for them10:08
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TachyonnI don't understand why I'm banned on ##hardware :(10:14
cfhowlettTachyon_, nothing to do with this channel ...10:16
Tachyon_Yes... I think I just have to go to ask on forum.. ##hardware hates me :(10:18
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anonymous_hello10:46
anonymous_hello10:48
vrittikaHello!!10:48
cfhowlett!ask | Anonaly10:48
ubottuAnonaly: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:48
cfhowlettanonymous_, see above ^^^10:49
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anonymous_are your hackers?10:49
anonymous_auuu10:50
anonymous_somebody hear me?10:51
charlesWWhat can I do about my ubuntu 14.04LTS, I click on "System Settings10:54
charlesWWhat can I do about my ubuntu 14.04LTS, I click on "System Settings" and it opens, then the screen greys out and stays that way. I can do anything else on the desktop that I want to do, except for things inside the "system settings"...?10:57
DJJeffhow do I track this down?11:13
DJJeffW: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C5D7718106438B8711:13
DJJeffif gives us the pubkey but does not tell us which ppa it is11:14
Ben64add the key, or add the repository properly and it adds it automatically11:14
DJJeffand when you have like 30 ppa hard to track down11:14
DJJeffwas there an application that could track down missing gpg and fetch them for you?11:15
Ben64no11:15
DJJeffI remember back in ubuntu 10.10 using an app that would find missing gpg and add them for you11:16
DJJeffI since lost it11:16
Ben64http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126367611:16
DJJeffit would be helpful if apt-get would tell the user which ppa is missing the key11:17
Ben64did you look at the link11:17
DJJefftracking them down 1 by 1 is stupid silly11:18
Ben64i'll take that as a no11:18
rrp-guest_|41752Help needed: When I lock my Ubuntu 14.04, login back, I see that the all 4 cores have the load jumped up to 80%11:18
DJJeffjust saying that if running apt-get tells you its missing it SHOULD give you the full url of the ppa11:18
rrp-guest_|41752is there a fix?11:18
DJJeffwould be just a nice thing todo11:18
Ben64rrp-guest_|41752: use something like htop to see what it is11:19
DJJeffprobley 2 lines of code to fix11:19
Ben64DJJeff: or just add the ppa properly in the first place11:19
rrp-guest_|41752htop?11:19
Ben64rrp-guest_|41752: yep, its a program11:19
DJJeffhtop is a terminal program11:19
DJJeffthat shows cpu and memory usage11:19
DJJeffand can be sorted11:19
DJJeffto show the top ones on the top of the list11:19
Ben64DJJeff: cool it with the enter key11:20
DJJeffBen64: cool it with your poor advice11:20
DJJeffyou did not even tell him what kind of program it was11:20
Ben64i gave you a solution, sorry that you don't like it11:20
* cfhowlett adds one more to /ignore11:20
DJJeff1 less user of 1,755 I am in tears now11:21
anon__hi!11:22
rrp-guest_|41752All cpu's are 50-60%, by compiz.11:23
rrp-guest_|41752.. when locked11:23
DJJeffcompiz eh? are you on latest graphics drivers?11:23
DJJeffusing open source or drivers from the vendor itself11:24
cfhowlettBen64, question on that bad pubkey.  I see from the link that only half of the pubkey is requested from keyserver?  not the WHOLE thing; F92F76A .... ???11:24
rrp-guest_|41752no. I have tried all the nvidia version, but non seems to work, so I used devault on Ubuntu.11:24
rrp-guest_|41752However, no high load, when I'm using the ubuntu unlocked11:24
Ben64cfhowlett: yeah thats the identifier or something, can't think of the actual words for it right now11:24
DJJeffrrp-guest_|41752: does the same thing happen on nouvoux drivers?11:24
DJJeffBen64: if you are tired and unhelpful just head to bed11:25
cfhowlettBen64, so how would I know what part to request from the alphanumeric string?  or would it break things to just copy/pasta the whole thing?11:25
Ben64DJJeff: keep your comments to yourself11:25
DJJeffBen64: you clearly sound tired and upset11:26
Ben64cfhowlett: like my link said, the last 8 characters11:26
cfhowlettBen64,  got it.  thanks!!11:26
charlesWWhen I click on "System Settings" and it opens, then the screen greys out and stays that way. I can do anything else on the desktop that I want to do, except for things inside the "system settings"...Any ideas on a fix?11:26
rrp-guest_|41752using xorg Nouveau11:26
DJJeffrrp-guest_|41752: so you have tried the Nouveau drivers with the same results11:27
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charlesWWhen I click on "System Settings" and it opens, then the screen greys out and stays that way. I can do anything else on the desktop that I want to do, except for things inside the "system settings"...Any ideas on a fix?11:27
DJJeffrrp-guest_|41752: does it only happen with compiz? have you tried stress testing your gfx?11:27
rrp-guest_|41752yes. that's the only one that I have that works in addition of NVidia11:27
rrp-guest_|41752nothing else tested. Issue is the CPU load when UI is locked.11:28
charlesWWhen I click on "System Settings" and it opens, then the screen greys out and stays that way. I can do anything else on the desktop that I want to do, except for things inside the "system settings"...Any ideas on a fix?11:28
Ben64!patience | charlesW11:28
ubottucharlesW: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/11:28
DJJeffrrp-guest_|41752: can you suspend resume without issues?11:29
rrp-guest_|41752that work ok11:29
DJJeffso its not really a power issue or a driver issue it may be a compiz problem11:29
DJJeffyou might try rebooting with compiz disabled11:30
DJJeffand see how far you get11:30
rrp-guest_|41752I have not tried to disable combiz. Wouldn't that prevent Ubuntu to work?11:31
DJJeffcompiz is just fancy graphics11:31
DJJeffI do not use compiz with Xfce11:31
DJJeffand have no problems11:31
rrp-guest_|41752How do I disable it?11:31
charlesWsomething went wrong with my text, let me try this again...11:31
charlesWWhen I click on "System Settings" and it opens, then the screen greys out and stays that way. I can do anything else on the desktop that I want to do, except for things inside the "system settings"...Any ideas on a fix?11:31
DJJeffcharlesW: you have sent that 4 times now11:32
cfhowlettcharlesW, you are asking WAY too freguently!  every 2 minutes?!!!  really?  be patient!11:32
DJJeffrrp-guest_|41752: just stop compiz from auto starting somehow11:32
charlesWsorry yall, I could not see anything being posted.11:32
MonkeyDustcharlesW  every 10-15 minutes, until someone enters who can help11:32
DJJeffprobley a guide online how todo it and you can always re enable compiz after11:32
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rrp-guest_|41752ok - I'll try that next. Thans!11:33
charlesWsorry about that, My chat text was invisible for a moment.11:33
robattila256How come when I run /usr/bin/chromium in terminal it opens the browser fine, but if I make a shortcut to it with ln -s the file just opens up it's text contents11:46
robattila256I tried chmod +x to11:46
bancikhi, what is the safest way of removing a kernel in ubuntu server 14.0411:46
lotuspsychje!kernel | bancik11:46
ubottubancik: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)11:46
banciksudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-... deletes all the kernels but the last one11:47
charlesWhow about this....How do I get Admin access using terminal while l am logged in as a normal user?11:47
Ben64charlesW: run the command with sudo11:48
banciklotuspsychje, I am using ubuntu server and I do not have any gui tools11:48
charlesWthanks11:48
robattila256or just type sudo -s11:48
robattila256to perma admin11:48
Ben64which isn't a great idea11:48
cfhowlettbancik, you can remove via the command line11:49
cfhowletthttp://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/11:49
robattila256Ben64: it's fine if you know the commands aren't going to write into your roots home directory11:50
Ben64robattila256: but you didn't mention any of the negatives11:52
robattila256when I find what those are ill mention them lol11:52
BluesKajHiyas all11:53
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: hi mate11:53
alexbucurestihi11:53
BluesKajhey lotuspsychje11:53
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: put discuss back in your favs mate :p11:54
Ben64robattila256: if someone asks how to run something as root, don't give them a command to turn them into root...11:54
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cfhowlett!root | robattila25611:55
ubotturobattila256: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:55
winston314159Hi, which file should I change in order to have other tty loading at startup11:56
robattila256winston314159: probably .xinitrc11:56
__DEFC0N__hi11:56
robattila256__DEFC0N__: hi11:57
bancikcfhowlett, I get this: The following packages will be REMOVED: linux-generic* linux-image-3.13.0-63-generic*, linux-image-extra-3.13.0-63-generic* linux-image-generic*11:57
bancikas far as I know linux-image-generic* must not be removed11:57
cfhowlettbancik, i'm not on server.  best practice is to remove all but the 2 most recent kernels.11:57
__DEFC0N__bancik: what is the problem ?11:57
bancikI want to keep an older kernel11:58
lotuspsychje__DEFC0N__: <bancik> hi, what is the safest way of removing a kernel in ubuntu server 14.0411:58
bancikthe newest one is causing problems with the shorewall11:58
charlesWIn terminal, What command cleans the system up? OR what is an alternative program for this?11:58
cfhowlettbancik, yes the tutorial explicitly states DO NOT remove linux-image-generic11:58
bancikyes11:59
__DEFC0N__bancik: have you tried GRUB211:59
__DEFC0N__ß11:59
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zteamHi!12:13
TroubardourHi, can you help me determine why upstart starts, but systemd completely freezes at the login screen?12:13
JedStarhowdy all12:13
ratraceTroubardour: upstart and systemd are mutually exclusive. what are you talking about?12:14
zteamIs there any good and free alternative to Dreamweaver which provides WYSWYG under Ubuntu, or is DreamWeaver under Wine the way to go?12:14
zteamWYSIWYG *12:15
Troubardourratrace: I can choose at the grubmenu.12:15
netekzteam there used to be an app called nvu12:15
netekits a bit old but you can update the classes12:16
ratraceTroubardour: I don't know what you can choose or what you did there, but the two init systems are so much mutually exclusive the userland and the rest of the OS cannot exist for both.12:16
TroubardourWhen I choose an kernel (upstart) it will run. When default (systemd) it won't12:16
Troubardour15.1012:17
ratrace15.10 is still alpha12:17
zteamnetek, yeah, I know about it :-) I did try Kompozer (which is a improved fork of nvu)but unfournetly it was very unstable12:17
netekzteam ok, I dont use WYSIWYG myself but remember coming across nvu a few years ago so was first thing that came to mind12:18
MonkeyDustzteam  there's also Bluegriffon, but it's very basic12:18
ratraceTroubardour: you have something severely broken there. Ubuntu switched to systemd with 15.04. It's not going back to upstart in 15.10. You cannot have both. If booting with upstart works but with systemd doesn't, it probably means your userland is for upstart and you're trying the systemd init, which cannot be.12:19
netekzteam I think there is another called amoya or amaya, cannot remember the name exactly but think its the official w3c wysiwyg12:19
MonkeyDustzteam  depending on your needs, you can consider using Dreamweaver with wine or in a windows vm12:19
Troubardourratrace: thank you, that sounds plausible.12:19
ioria!ubuntu+1  | Troubardour12:20
ubottuTroubardour: wily werewolf is the codename for Ubuntu 15.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+112:20
ratraceTroubardour: so I'm guessing you upgraded from pre-15.04 and something broke and left upstart in it  (pun not intended :) )12:20
MonkeyDustzteam  what netek says ... http://www.w3.org/Amaya/screenshots/Overview.html12:21
TroubardourI upgraded for some sound related issue, I will check.12:21
TroubardourTY 2, iora and ubottu12:22
netekMonkeyDust thats the one12:22
netek:)12:22
ioriaTroubardour, you'r welcome12:22
JedStarI am currently running 14.04.3 LTS on a VPS which I own, and I was wondering execept for apt-get install build-essential libgnutls-dev gnutls-bin pkg-config12:23
JedStaris there anything else I need to install12:23
zteamnetek, well I don't normally use WYSIWYG either, but my HTML skills is really outdated nowadays, and I don't really have the time to fiddle with HTML code anymore :-)12:23
JedStarto update everything12:23
Ben64JedStar: you don't need to install anything to update everything.... you just need to do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"12:24
netekzteam I use aptana myself, it has autocomplete for html, php, css etc :)12:24
zteamnetek, Amaya looks usuable thought :-)12:24
netekzteam good12:24
JedStarthanks Ben6412:25
zteamMonkeyDust, netek thanks for your suggestion guys :-)12:28
MonkeyDustzteam  remember: if all else fails, join #ubuntu12:29
XeonSquaredSanity check, is http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/ 404ing for anyone else?12:30
netekzteam welcome :)12:30
lotuspsychjeXeonSquared: we had au guys this morning with mirror issue sindeed12:30
Norbinguys, how do you make df list ntfs formatted devices only?12:30
Norbindf -t ntfs doesn't work12:31
XeonSquaredAny idea what's going on with AARNet?12:31
wjIrcHelp! Is it some way to ONLINE (like on cloud) build binary deb using github project link?12:31
lotuspsychjeXeonSquared: didnt hear some news, but adding other sources might be temp fix?12:31
XeonSquaredYeah, using fallbacks now, just wondering why my favourite mirror is down is all12:32
lotuspsychjeXeonSquared: im sure they will do whats possible to get it back up asap12:32
ioriadf -T | grep ntfs ?12:33
XeonSquaredWell, good to hear it's not just me, though it seems that they haven't said anything about it on their site.12:33
rrp-guest_|12381Hi, how do I boot to xterm in ubuntu 14.04, there was a key combinatin or something form login screen?12:34
Norbinah12:34
Norbinthen it's "fuseblk"12:34
Norbinnot ntfs :O12:35
Norbindf -T lists my ntfs drives as fuseblk12:35
NorbinTher short answer is that "fuseblk" is just how an ntfs partition is reported via the "mount" command, among others. The "fuse" part comes from FUSE (file system in userspace)12:35
bazhang!nox | rrp-guest_|1238112:36
ubotturrp-guest_|12381: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode12:36
rrp-guest_|12381ok..and from login screen?12:37
ioriarrp-guest_|12381, never tried ... maybe put some command in .profile to start a terminal full screen... only an idea12:38
bazhangcontrol alt f1 rrp-guest_|1238112:38
bazhangcontrol alt f7 to get back rrp-guest_|1238112:39
rrp-guest_|12381does not work.... I'll try reboot & shift..12:40
MonkeyDustor ctrl arrow left12:40
mripguruhey guys - got a bit of a weird issue if anyones here.12:41
cfhowlett!ask | mripguru12:41
ubottumripguru: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:41
mripguruI have a Dell 2950 III which was freshly installed w/ 12.0412:42
mripguruI can ping/access the server from the local LAN12:42
mripgurubut not from the outside.12:42
mripguru(This box was working perfectly under CentOS)12:42
MonkeyDustmripguru  keep it one line, that's easier to read and repeat12:42
cfhowlettmripguru, this is ubuntu server?   #ubuntu-server12:42
mripgurusorry.12:43
mripgurucfhowlett:  yes it is12:43
cfhowlett!server | mripguru might be better asked in the server channel12:43
ubottumripguru might be better asked in the server channel: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server12:43
rrp-guest_|12381ok.. got login. .. next:12:44
rrp-guest_|12381I had an issues of compiz taking 80%cpu on locked mode. I could not find the button to disable it, so I used apt-get remove compiz. -> All buttons disappear from UI. Then I reinstall compiz. But there are no still buttons/ui after login. How I get back woking?12:46
MonkeyDustrrp-guest_|12381  in Unity? Unity is a compiz plugin12:47
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mripgurucfhowlett:  I've asked in there as well now - but, would think that an issue like that would be present in desktop too :)12:47
rrp-guest_|12381so can I reinstall it somehow?12:47
cfhowlettmripguru, also:  #networking12:49
tuxedo_hello12:49
tuxedo_everyone here12:49
mripgurucfhowlett:  this is definitely an Ubuntu issue — this was all working just fine with the same settings, etc. on CentOS.12:49
mripguruso the networking portion is good.12:50
cfhowlettmripguru, right.  OK.  someone who knows more than I do will undoubtedly answer12:50
mripgurucfhowlett:  if I had to guess - something got broken in 12.04 causing networking not to start up properly12:51
mripguru(I read some things about that)12:52
cfhowlettmripguru, yep.  btw 12.04 is supported, but 14.04.3 is the newest LTS release ...12:52
mripgurucfhowlett: the apps that are slated for this box aren't :(12:52
mripguruthey require 12.0412:52
cfhowlettoh, that must hurt :)12:52
MonkeyDustcfhowlett  cynic12:52
mripguruMonkeyDust:  realist?12:53
rrp-guest_|12381Help: How do I get my ubuntu 14.04 working again: I can get term but buttons are not available in UI. I tried to remove, reinstall compiz12:53
MonkeyDustmripguru  even LTS eventually comes to an end... make sure you can use any given program in future releases12:54
ioriarrp-guest_|12381, http://askubuntu.com/questions/344090/i-removed-compiz-and-now-i-cant-login-to-ubuntu12:54
rrp-guest_|12381that common issue.. I'll try. THanks.12:54
mripguruMonkeyDust:  by the time that happens - it will be.12:56
cfhowlettrrp-guest_|12381, suggestion: sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop.  then, logout/login12:57
RouI left 8 gb free of unallocated disk space installing windows 1012:58
RouWill that be enough for lubuntu?12:59
RouDual boot12:59
cfhowlettRou, should be12:59
EriC^^Rou: barely enough, it's like 6gb maybe12:59
cfhowlettRou, but if you try to save movies, music, images ... you'll run out very quickly12:59
cfhowlettand if you don't clean up after updating ...13:00
RouI'm using it for web development13:00
RouAnd I have an SD card in there13:00
cfhowlettRou, running at the bare, minimal edge seems ... inadvisable13:01
rrp-guest_|12381Thanks...but reinstall ubuntu-desktop does not help.13:01
RouWell I sure wish I asked this before I started the windows 10 installation then13:01
RouI hope I can allocate more space13:01
cfhowlettRou, you could shrink the widows partition13:01
cfhowlett!gparted | Rou13:01
ubottuRou: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php13:01
MonkeyDustRou  how much space do you have in total?13:04
Rou32 GB SSD13:04
LakshithaLKHi everyone !!13:04
Rou8GB SD13:04
Rou1 TB external USB13:04
Rou500 GB external usb13:04
RouExternal USB I'm using on my computer ATM13:05
cfhowlettRou, well if you point your /home to one of the external media you might be OK13:05
LakshithaLKNeed some help regarding Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on an Lenovo G510. I cant access User Accounts through Unity-Control-Center !! Would be great if anyone has a workaround ??13:06
lotuspsychjeLakshithaLK: you got an error starting user accounts?13:06
RouI guess I'll just install Lubuntu for now13:06
RouAnd shrink my windows partition if I need to later on13:06
EriC^^LakshithaLK: open a terminal and type unity-control-center user-accounts13:07
RouCan I increase the Lubuntu partition afterwards?13:07
RouAfter it's already formatted and installed?13:07
EriC^^LakshithaLK: if you want to try reinstalling the unity-control-center, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-control-center13:07
LakshithaLKHi lotuspsychje..Not an error , It just starts opening multiple instances of Unity Control Centre..13:07
cfhowlettRou, why would you need to?13:07
RouIn case I need to make it larger than 8 GB13:07
MonkeyDustRou  with LVM or Btrfs, yes, but unfortunately i know only their basics13:08
LakshithaLKHi EriC...I tried uninstalling and installing :-( But no luck..13:08
cfhowlettRou, sanest option: partition sufficiently before install.  consider a separate /home13:08
cfhowlett!home13:08
ubottuYour home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving13:08
RouWell13:09
RouI can't see myself needing to put too many things on the Ubuntu partition anyways13:10
RouA few developer tools13:10
LakshithaLKHi Eric..when I ran13:10
LakshithaLK"unity-control-center user-accounts"13:10
RouAnd project folder I'll probably keep external anyways13:11
cfhowlettRou, possibly another option:  windows + virtuabox + lubuntu13:11
LakshithaLKHi Eric when I ran "unity-control-center user-accounts" the terminal gave the following error "libwayland-egl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Failed to load module: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity-control-center-1/panels/libuser-accounts.so Failed to register: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"13:11
RouIt's only a dual core13:11
RouThe reason I'm dual booting lubuntu is because it's lightweight13:12
cfhowlettRou, true.  couldn't hurt to experiment though, right?13:13
cecchinialla prossima buon fine settimana. krabador grazie dell'aiuto carlino non ce ringrazialo per me ciauzzzzzz13:13
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BluesKaj!it | cecchini13:14
ubottucecchini: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:14
cecchinisorry13:14
mripguruyou'd think everyone would speak English….13:15
cfhowlett?  ubuntu is international ...13:15
mripgurucfhowlett:  English is an International language ;)13:16
BluesKajmripguru, not everyone realizes the chat's are language restricted13:16
mripguruBluesKaj:  indeed — and some just don't really care.13:17
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hardtailHey all, I recently installed Ubuntu 15 on my desktop. Originally I had sound, but after unplugging my speakers to then use my headset, it no longer works. The only sound I receive is the chime upon startup at the login screen.13:22
rrp-guest_|12381Still not solved: how I get my ubuntu UI back working... (http://askubuntu.com/questions/344090/i-removed-compiz-and-now-i-cant-login-to-ubuntu) does not work13:23
rrp-guest_|12381more ideas?13:23
lotuspsychje!sound | hardtail13:23
ubottuhardtail: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.13:23
lakshithaHi Guys , I'm running 14.04 LTS and have a problem when opening user accounts from unity control center...(It starts to continually open control center instances).13:25
rafaelcenteiohi, after kernel update, I cannot get internet via lan (eth0). Ifconfig can't find eth0. It only prints "lo" and "wlan0"13:26
hardtaillotuspsychje Ahh, thank you very much! Looks like it was not on the correct output.13:26
lakshithaHi Guys , I'm running 14.04 LTS and have a problem when opening user accounts from unity control center...(It starts to continually open control center instances).13:27
lakshithaHi Guys , I'm running 14.04 LTS and have a problem when opening user accounts from unity control center...(It starts to continually open control center instances). When I run "unity-control-center user-accounts13:31
lakshitha" the terminal output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/12467046/13:31
rafaelcenteiolakshitha: you have to wait.13:32
MonkeyDustlakshitha  wild idea, try sudo apt-get install unity-control-center --reinstall13:32
yeatsrafaelcenteio: is there anything about eth0 in /var/log/syslog?13:33
Tim_Hi wondering if anyone could help13:33
Nyt129XHi Everyone , I'm running 14.04 LTS and have a problem when opening user accounts from unity control center...(It starts to continually open control center instances). When I run "unity-control-center user-accounts the terminal output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/12467046/13:34
yeatsTim_: just ask and someone will answer if they know13:34
rafaelcenteioyeats: yes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12467096/13:35
Tim_After installing ubuntu its says it cant fund root device? Im sharing with xp13:35
alejandroHi, where I find support for linuxmint in Spanish ?13:35
lotuspsychjeNyt129X: SOUNDS LIKE THIS BUG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/128980713:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1289807 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331 (Ubuntu) "User Accounts endless loop (never opens)" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:36
tuxedo_you have to go to linuxmint channel13:36
lotuspsychje!mint | alejandro13:36
ubottualejandro: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org13:36
kadirohello all, I tryed to connect with my wifi for two ssid with a exact passphrase but I can't connect ( try it for both linux and windows ) can any one help me to know what going on?13:36
Nyt129Xlotuspsychje: Yeah...I came across that . Was wondering if there are any workarounds ??13:37
alejandrothanks  lotuspsychje13:37
BluesKajTim_, where are you in the boot process when that errors shows up?13:38
kadiroalejandro: there is no spanish for mint all language are supported in one channel13:38
alejandrook thanks kadiro13:38
lotuspsychjeNyt129X: one guy seems to have fixxed it at the end of that bug13:38
kadiroplease help13:39
Nyt129Xlotuspsychje: Seriousely ?? How did I missed that ?? Will read it all over again and get back..SOrry for the trouble :-)13:39
Tim_Start up pc, then hit ubuntu it starts up saying finalising installation and then thing thing pops up says cannot find roor file system13:39
lotuspsychjeNyt129X: try the #35 fix13:40
Tim_Fisrt time doing this so.. yeah lol13:40
Nyt129Xlotuspsychje: AWESOME !! It fixed :-D  Thanks a million for both of you... (Original poster and YOU !!)13:41
lotuspsychje!yay | Nyt129X13:41
ubottuNyt129X: Glad you made it! :-)13:41
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje  whatever you did (havent followed) ... +113:41
kadiromy huawei b310s not work for now i'm sure the firmware is damaged, for that i connect from a wifi to my friend please help i have no more times13:41
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Nyt129Xlotuspsychje: Gotta love Linux & Ubuntu...I only recently made the switch from Windows and so far find it awesome !! Love the community feeling...13:42
Nyt129Xubottu: Thanks :-)13:42
lotuspsychjeNyt129X: thats what were all here for mate :p13:42
Nyt129Xlotuspsychje: :-D13:42
* kadiro no one help13:43
MonkeyDustkadiro  or no one knows13:43
lotuspsychjekadiro: ubuntu version, wifi chipset?13:43
kadirolotuspsychje: wifi is atheros wn722n13:43
lotuspsychjekadiro: some atheros cards need firmware fix13:44
kadiroubuntu 14.04.313:44
rafaelcenteioyeats: did you catch what I said?13:44
lotuspsychje!atheros | kadiro13:44
ubottukadiro: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:44
kadiroit work for one ssid but the two other i tryed in windows with driver but not connect to them13:44
Tim_BluesKaj did you see what I said?13:45
kadiroI'm currently connected with it13:45
yppowhere can i find md5hash of ubuntu server?13:45
lotuspsychjekadiro: does it work on ubuntu?13:46
kadirook lotuspsychje can you guide me to fixe my huawei modem?13:46
kadiroyes lotuspsychje13:46
lotuspsychjekadiro: ask in the ##windows channel if it doesnt work on windows13:47
kadirolotuspsychje: in both windows and linux13:47
kadiroonly two ssid can't connect all others work13:48
lotuspsychjekadiro: wich security types these ssid have?13:48
yppofond md5 hashes but on a none secura page...13:48
yppoI guess ill just go with them:)13:49
kadirowpa-psk13:49
lotuspsychjekadiro: check your syslog and dmesg for relevant errors or wifi authentication errors13:49
BluesKajTim_, is windows still installed on your pc ?13:50
kadirosyslog always say: timeout13:50
kadirojust a few important dmesg log: [13868.588052] wlan0: direct probe to 64:70:02:af:dc:1e (try 2/3)13:53
kadiro[13868.792045] wlan0: send auth to 64:70:02:af:dc:1e (try 3/3)13:53
kadiro[13868.900048] wlan0: authentication with 64:70:02:af:dc:1e timed out13:53
lotuspsychjekadiro: pastebin sudo lshw -C network please13:53
kadiroi think this one my connexion can't see it http://paste.linuxmint.com/view/pqxj13:56
lotuspsychjekadiro: your on mint?13:57
kadiroyes, my ubuntu is in other hard disk have some problem to repair it13:58
lotuspsychje!mint | kadiro only ubuntu support here13:59
ubottukadiro only ubuntu support here: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org13:59
kadirook13:59
kadiroI think it is a time my neighbor to disconnect13:59
kadirothank you anyway13:59
kadiroI think i will hack someone to connect after ( no choice )14:00
gioans#ubuntu-chat14:03
gioans#ubuntu14:04
SchrodingersScat!ubuntu | gioans14:04
ubottugioans: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com14:04
gioanshello14:04
gioansi am a new Gnome-ubuntu14:04
SchrodingersScat!support14:05
ubottuThe official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com14:05
southshields99am i in the right place to get a registration code for the linux mint forum?14:06
lotuspsychje!mint | southshields9914:06
ubottusouthshields99: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org14:06
southshields99thank you :-)14:07
gioanshello14:07
lotuspsychjegioans: this channel is used for ubuntu support questions only14:08
Mandroidhey14:09
pauljwgioans: try #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion.14:09
tminus36Hi all. I updated a laptop yesterday, and when it asked about the network-manager configuration files I said no, just use the ones I already have. Now my system shows no interfaces and network-manager icon no longer appears. Is there a way I can get back to that diag and tell it yes? I have no internet connection on the system currently.14:09
tminus36.. or interfaces, just localhost. :D14:10
tminus36err loopback*14:10
gioansis there ubuntu ?14:13
lotuspsychjeioria: set discuss to favs mate :p14:14
iorialotuspsychje, ok, tx14:15
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NorbinHow can I disable all the Alt+12345678xxxxx terminal shortcuts?14:20
NorbinTHey interfere with my tmux configuration14:20
teen_optimismHey guys. What is the most restrictive file permission one can give?14:20
NorbinI don't wish to disable shortcuts all together, only the Alt+xxx14:20
MonkeyDustteen_optimism  000 i guess14:21
teen_optimismI am trying to login via ssh with id_rsa.pub but chmod 775 seems to be to open. What should i pick?14:22
teen_optimism@MonkeyDust14:22
Dumle29Hmm booting ubuntu is very slow. It's installed on an SSD, but it just seems to hang at boot14:22
tminus36teen_optimism: 600 is usually a safe choice14:23
MonkeyDustteen_optimism  755 is common14:23
teen_optimismThx guys will try it out14:23
hnttyteen_optimism: sounds a lot like premature optimisation14:23
tminus36teen_optimism: or 644 if it says its too restricted14:24
Norbinanyone knows?14:24
tminus36hntty: How does setting proper security settings on ssh keys have anything to do with optimization? O_o14:25
hnttytminus36: teen_optimism sounds a lot like premature optimisation14:25
teen_optimismthx tminus will report back wheter it worked or not14:25
tminus36hntty: lol gotcha.. I need more caffeine. :)14:26
* tminus36 is a bit slow atm14:26
tminus36teen_optimism: 644 will certainly work.14:27
teen_optimismtminus yes that worked, thx again :)14:29
tminus36teen_optimism: np14:30
abdoulcomment creer son serveur dns14:36
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lotuspsychje!fr | abdoul14:36
ubottuabdoul: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.14:36
abdoulok14:37
ioria!info bind914:37
ubottubind9 (source: bind9): Internet Domain Name Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9ubuntu0.3 (vivid), package size 306 kB, installed size 1052 kB14:37
imnotarobot1what's the shortcut key to switch between tabs i firefox?14:38
ioriaalt+tab14:39
imnotarobot1no i mean tabs within firefox14:39
brothersomeCtrl + tab14:39
imnotarobot1thanks brothersome14:39
imnotarobot1fuck you ioria14:39
lotuspsychjeoO14:39
pauljwthat was uncalled for...14:44
Norbinwtf?14:50
Norbinso freakin rude E:/14:50
mripgururide the light? ;)14:52
imnotarobot1i used to have a boyfriend named "ubuntu" once14:58
imnotarobot1he would "play the bongos" on my ass14:58
imnotarobot1LEOLEOLEOLOLOLOLOLLEELELELLLELEEELELELELELELELEL14:58
imnotarobot1FAGS14:58
nduynight all15:00
reeedI have mounted a Windows drive as a cifs share. When the Windows machine is shutdown, and I inadvertently try to access that share, my filesystem browser hangs until the share is available again. any workarounds?15:01
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saldot__banging my head getting ubuntu to run on my intel NUC. After installation i reboot but to a black screen with a cursor blinking in the left corner.15:21
lotuspsychjesaldot__: did you disabled fasboot + secureboot?15:22
saldot__lotuspsychje, yup15:22
saldot__i have it set to uefi though15:22
lotuspsychjesaldot__: you dualbooting?15:23
saldot__nope15:23
lotuspsychjesaldot__: legacy then15:23
saldot__can i change that on the fly or do i need to make some changes to grub?15:23
lotuspsychjesaldot__: some boxes also have deep intel setting somewhere to prevent new Os15:23
saldot__ok?15:24
lotuspsychjesaldot__: something must be blocking in bios, doublecheck every option :p15:24
saldot__but it does seem like it is booting.15:25
lotuspsychjesaldot__: is it booting, or have a _ cursor?15:25
saldot__it goes to black screen with blinking cursor but if i press ctrl-alt-del i see a ubuntu logo for a short while before it reboots15:25
batboyyo15:25
saldot__blinking text cursor that is.. like underscore _15:25
lotuspsychjesaldot__: wich ubuntu version?15:25
saldot__15.04 server15:25
batboykali linux for hake15:26
cfhowlett!kali | batboy15:26
ubottubatboy: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)15:26
lotuspsychjesaldot__: you running server on an intel NUC?15:27
saldot__yes15:27
lotuspsychjesaldot__: try the #ubuntu-server guys mate15:27
saldot__is there a big difference in the boot of desktop vs server?15:28
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cfhowlettsaldot__, yes.  one has a gui, one does not15:28
lotuspsychjesaldot__: well never had users with server on a NUC before, it might need fixing15:28
saldot__ok15:29
saldot__ill go ask the server guys15:29
lotuspsychjesaldot__: you could also test out 14.04 server for more stable experience?15:29
saldot__yes. but i think 15.04 is supposed to have some fixes for uefi buises15:30
saldot__*bioses15:30
lotuspsychjesaldot__: try out LTS, it might help15:31
saldot__lotuspsychje,  yeah, might as well. i'm stuck anyways15:32
lotuspsychjesaldot__: this looks like a clean tut: http://paislee.io/how-to-set-up-a-home-server-with-an-intel-nuc/15:33
OerHekssaldot__, this page might be a help: look for bios update first, might save some time .. http://paislee.io/how-to-set-up-a-home-server-with-an-intel-nuc/  written for 14.04 LTS15:35
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: too late :p15:35
saldot__hehe.. i get twice the support. ;)15:36
saldot__i've updated the bios to latest version. was supposed to have some fixes for linux booting.15:36
saldot__did that before installing15:36
saldot__i'll test 14.04 and see what happens15:36
lotuspsychjesaldot__: good luck!15:36
brothersomeNUC installation looks like the same as my tinycorelinux installation on my small computer15:37
saldot__well.. a nuc is a computer like any other i guess. but with a mobile/laptop cpu15:38
brothersomeMy server runs lighttpd and opensshd with only 52 MB ram, more simple than an ubuntu server15:39
lotuspsychje!discuss | brothersome15:39
ubottubrothersome: Want to talk about Ubuntu but don't have a support question. Join #ubuntu-discuss, for other non-support  discussion not Ubuntu related you can also join #ubuntu-offtopic. Thank you.15:39
* brothersome ah15:40
brothersomelotuspsychje, what about running the latest kernel? About the security of an older version?15:42
lotuspsychje!kernel | brothersome15:43
ubottubrothersome: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)15:43
OerHeksbrothersome, is that a support question or starting a discussion?15:44
brothersomeOerheks, I think lotuspsychje does a kind of kidding, I do not like to shout that way15:45
kanetheloo15:46
brothersomeMy question is: Is the version of the kernel 14.04 the same as 15.04? What about the security?15:46
nikosHi, I need some help with boot repair15:47
MonkeyDustbrothersome  3.16.0-49-generic on my 14.04.315:47
OerHeksNo, the kernel is newer on 15,04, but 14.04 has all security patches too.15:47
alex____2hello world15:47
lotuspsychje!usn | brothersome check security exploits here15:47
ubottubrothersome check security exploits here: Please see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn for information about Ubuntu security updates.15:47
MonkeyDustbrothersome  what are you afraid of?15:50
brothersomeI have 15.04 with 3.19.0.29 - I suppose that there are security patches since 3.1615:50
JunkHunkhi ubunters...15:51
JunkHunkI recently bought a new hdmi screen15:51
brothersomeMonkeyDust, Just the ability to break in on a server, so now I know the answer - thanks15:52
JunkHunkit comes with tiny embedded speakers which use the hdmi connection...I just would like to use the desktop regular sound input together15:53
aedendis there documentation I can reference that will tell me what a specific port is used for? If I do "ss -tunlp" I would like to know more about the ports it displays15:53
JunkHunkso I can use all the speakers I have15:53
lotuspsychjebrothersome: server security relies on more factors aswell, wich services rou running etc15:53
MonkeyDustaedend  in a terminal, type    less /etc/services15:54
JunkHunkpavucontrol does not seem to offer that chance15:54
lotuspsychje!security | brothersome for tighten security15:54
ubottubrothersome for tighten security: Security Updates are dealt with here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server15:54
JunkHunkis there a way to get both sound outputs working at the same time15:55
JunkHunk?15:55
aedendMonkeyDust, perfect, thank you15:55
MonkeyDustbrothersome  http://hardenubuntu.com/hardening/15:55
lotuspsychje!sound | JunkHunk start here15:55
ubottuJunkHunk start here: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.15:55
JunkHunkhmmm thanks but I have no trouble using sound...15:56
JunkHunkboth channels are working15:57
JunkHunkI can use my desktop speakers using the analogic output...15:57
GramszuHallo everyone! I have ubuntu on gnome. My rhythmbox cannot collect any mp3 files. I have mp3 libary - in other audio programs it works.15:57
JunkHunkand my hdmi screen speakers with the hdmi connection selected...15:57
JunkHunkbut I would like to use them both at the same time15:57
JunkHunkto use all the speakers I have15:57
JunkHunkI would need both channels working at the same time...is that possible in ubuntu?15:58
JunkHunkwould I need an amplifier?15:59
lotuspsychje!info paprefs | JunkHunk try this maybe16:00
ubottuJunkHunk try this maybe: paprefs (source: paprefs): PulseAudio Preferences. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.10-1 (vivid), package size 60 kB, installed size 541 kB16:00
JunkHunklotusflower: I already installed pavucontrol...and it is not offering the multichannel option...is that paprefs anyway better?16:02
lotuspsychjeJunkHunk: test and find out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/78174/play-sound-through-two-or-more-outputs-devices16:02
JunkHunkgold16:03
JunkHunkthanks16:03
lotuspsychjedidnt test myself, dont shoot me after16:03
JunkHunklol16:03
JunkHunkI ll make fine perfume out of your leafs16:04
MonkeyDustand a necklace out of your teeth16:05
saldot__lotuspsychje, 14.04 did the trick. Works well now16:06
saldot__incase you were worried. ;)16:07
OerHeks:-)16:07
lotuspsychje!cookie | OerHeks he's hungry :p16:07
ubottuOerHeks he's hungry :p: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!16:07
lotuspsychjesaldot__: im glad, cause i wouldnt have sleep tonight16:08
EriC^^lotuspsychje 's bed is made out of ssd's and clouds16:08
EriC^^:p16:09
lotuspsychjelol16:09
JunkHunksoee guess what? a guy found it at ubuntu irc...but I cannot exactly apply same solution in kubuntu...it is somehow different...16:13
JunkHunkhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/78174/play-sound-through-two-or-more-outputs-devices16:14
JunkHunkoops16:14
JunkHunklol16:14
aedendin /etc/services I find "mdns" I've tried man mdns but no luck. Is there a resource locally on my machine I can reference for more information?16:25
MonkeyDustaedend  it's avahi related, is what i read on several pages16:28
[n0mad]yeah, seems avahi related or libnss16:28
Laxu5Hi there, I am having a bit of an issue using a livecd to mount an Intel software raid, when I run mdadm - - assemble --scan I get the error message only give one device per ARRAY line. I am assuming it is because the raid is named ALL BLUE, with the space, what syntax should I use to specify it as all one word in the made.conf please?16:28
MonkeyDustaedend  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToZeroconf16:29
aedendMonkeyDust, could this be running because I'm running Ubuntu as a guest on OSX. A little off-topic, I understand, just curious16:30
MonkeyDustaedend  not sure, didnt know it myself16:31
OerHeksnice, raid name with a space...16:31
aedendMonkeyDust, yeah, I didn't either but it reads to me as if its an implementation of Apple's Zeroconf architecture... Thanks again for your help16:32
Laxu5It was running on Windows so had no issue, but Intel fell over and came up with a disk missing error so am trying to run testdisk, but first I need to get the raid mounted16:32
nikosHi, anyone who could help with boot repair,please?16:38
EriC^^nikos: what's wrong?16:38
Laxu5Did you have any ideas oerheks? Or just wanted to criticise?16:38
FoogledorkLaxu5: use quotations in the config?16:39
nikosyesterday I took some help here to fix some broken libraries that prevented abiword to open16:39
nikosI followed instructions and it worked16:39
nikosafter that I saw google earth didn't open,I uninstalled it and installed again and it was OK.16:39
nikoswhen I reboot after that, couldn't get into xubuntu.16:39
nikosblue screen with xubuntu logo loads normally but only for 3-4 seconds and then just black screen.I tried boot repair through live CD (all options) with no luck.16:39
Laxu5I did try that, but it appears to still not be mounting, tried single and double16:39
Laxu5I think the easiest solution is install windoze on another hard drive and run testdisk from that16:40
FoogledorkLaxu5: The escape character before the space perhaps? ALL\ BLUE ?16:40
Laxu5Oh yeah good point didn't try that16:40
EriC^^nikos: what did you do to repair the broken libraries?16:40
Laxu5Hmm, no go, I think I will just whack window on a drive and in the future not use spaced raid names, thanks for the help foogledork16:42
FoogledorkLaxu5: no prob, sorry it didn't work :/16:42
Laxu5All good 😀16:43
nikosI can't recall, k1l helped me with that,everything was working fine exept for google earth16:43
Foogledorknikos: When grub loads, do you have a "fallback" option or something like that?16:44
nikosno probably because I erase old elements after each update,because of space...16:45
EriC^^nikos: did you try an older kernel?16:45
nikosI'm afraid I have no older kernels,I can see the use now...16:47
EriC^^!nomodeset | try booting with this16:47
ubottutry booting with this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter16:47
nikosgrub is fine, blue screen with xubuntu logo loads normally but only for 3-4 seconds and then just black screen.16:48
Foogledorknikos: when the screen goes black, can you use ctrl+alt+F4 or another Fx key?16:49
Foogledorknikos: Does it bring up a command prompt16:49
nikosmaybe this helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12456981/16:50
nikosI didn't try that,I sure ctrl+alt_del does nothing,Ihave to try16:51
Foogledorknikos: and which menu entry are you selecting?16:52
nikoswhich menu do you mean,from grub I pick ubuntu and then as I said xubuntu start loading but after seconds black screen.16:55
threethirtyis anyone else having the 3.13.0-63-generic kernel panicing on reboot on 14.04?16:55
Foogledorknikos: ok, there is no menu entry for "Ubuntu(recovery mode)"?16:55
nikosaaa, yes of course,I tried the options there as well16:56
Foogledorknikos: gotcha16:56
EriC^^nikos: try booting with nomodeset16:57
Foogledorknikos: Im actually at work so I gottastep away for a min16:57
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Ciprican i log in to a shell using a basic one line command?16:59
nikosEric: how do I do this? nomodeset17:00
Ciprilike ssh host username and password in one line17:00
EriC^^!nomodeset | read here17:00
ubotturead here: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:00
KartagisCipri: ssh user@host but I'm not sure you can pass the password17:03
Cipriyeah17:03
Ciprii've made a expect script..17:03
Cipribut i thought there's other ways to17:04
EriC^^Cipri: why don't you use keys?17:05
Cipridon't know exactly how to create and use it17:06
EriC^^it's easy, you make a set of keys, and copy the public key to your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server17:07
EriC^^then you just connet17:07
EriC^^*connect17:07
EriC^^ssh-keygen makes keys17:08
Cipriso, 1st i make a key ?17:09
Ciprirun ssh-keygen17:09
Cipri?17:09
EriC^^yeah17:09
CipriEnter file in which to save the key (/17:09
Ciprido i name anything ?17:09
EriC^^no leave the default17:09
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EriC^^/home/user/...17:10
Cipripassphrase emtpy again ?17:10
EriC^^yeah17:10
CipriSaving the key failed:17:10
Ciprii leaved all 3 field empty17:10
Ciprithat's what i got17:10
EriC^^where did it say to save the key?17:10
brainwash!ssh17:10
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)17:10
Ciprivar/www17:11
EriC^^Cipri: are you logged in as the user you want to ssh from?17:11
Ciprii'm logged in the shell17:12
EriC^^you create the keys at the client side17:12
Cipriso logout from the shell ?17:12
EriC^^which user are you going to use to ssh to? ( on the client not the server )17:13
Cipridone, created the key in /home/....17:13
Cipriwhat next ?17:13
EriC^^ok, type ssh-copy-id user@host17:13
aedendis it safe to remove cannaserver. This service starts after I boot up and it uses tcp:5680. From what get from the man page is that its some sort of Japanese/Korean conversion server?17:14
CipriEriC^^: for now it's waiting17:15
Ciprinot connecting..17:16
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Cipriit seems too hard for me to understand, i'll keep my expect script for now :)17:18
ioriahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys17:18
liquidmetalAnyone using task spooler here?17:21
liquidmetalIs there a way to configure task spooler using something like ~/.taskspool.conf instead of environment variables?17:21
wafflejockCipri: basically you make a public/private key pair on the client machine then you copy the public key and put it into the ~/.ssh/authorized_key text file on the server then you can connect (the client will use it's private key by default if you don't change anything it gets saved to ~/.ssh/id_rsa and ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub on the client17:22
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wafflejock)17:22
wafflejockoops sorry17:22
AbdoTGM50Can someone tell me why this happens everytime I do thr try or eveb install Ubuntu https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lvo5gwbrqo01ba/20150919_020121.jpg?dl=017:23
EriC^^Cipri: try cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh <user>@<hostname> 'cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys'17:24
ioriaAbdoTGM50, try to start the installer with nomodeset ---- http://askubuntu.com/questions/613969/acpi-ppc-probe-failed-starting-version-219-nvidia17:27
AbdoTGM50Alright will try once Im back home thanks ioria :)17:29
ioriaAbdoTGM50, press F617:29
AbdoTGM50F6 not e?17:29
ioriaAbdoTGM50, you're welcome17:29
ioriaAbdoTGM50, gui way, cli way ... as you wish17:30
AbdoTGM50Or was it tab I cant recall XD17:30
ioriaAbdoTGM50, both17:30
AbdoTGM50Just a curiosity what does nomodeset do exactly?17:32
ioriaAbdoTGM50, disable any graphic driver17:32
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ioriaAbdoTGM50, use the bios mode17:33
AbdoTGM50So the problem may be something with uefi?17:34
ioriaAbdoTGM50, if you have a uefi mb, boot in uefi ... depends also if you are dual-boot or not ...17:35
AbdoTGM50Im not gonna dual boot17:35
ioriaAbdoTGM50, so, if you have a efi mb, select the usb stick labeled as uefi17:36
kadirohello17:37
ioriaAbdoTGM50, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI17:38
nivacc_having two partitions one efi vfat and one dmcrypted for root. Is it ok that the grub cfg sets set root='cryptouuid/uuidoftheencryptedpartition' ?17:46
srd995Hey guys. When's 15.10 releasing?17:47
MonkeyDustsrd995  next month17:47
srd995MonkeyDust: What are the major changes?17:48
nivacc_cause with the entries that grub produces, I cannot boot17:48
MonkeyDustsrd995  wait for 16.04 LTS for major changes ... http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-15-10-alpha-2-releases-now-available-for-download-here-s-what-s-new-488160.shtml17:49
srd995MokeyDust: Will 16.04 have a changed interface?17:50
MonkeyDustsrd995  no17:50
srd995MonkeyDust: and 16.04 will release next year, right?17:51
MonkeyDustsrd995  of course, you can still choose a DE17:51
MonkeyDustsrd995  16 = 2016, 04 = april17:51
srd995MonkeyDust: Alright...17:52
srd995In 14.04, I have to add blacklist i2c-hid in the blacklist.conf file for the touchpad to work... does anyone know why?17:53
OerHekssrd995, whay guide says that? or do you want to let us guess?17:54
ioriasrd995, uname -r ? are you 3-13... something ?17:55
srd995OerHeks, I had read somewhere that to fix my problem I have to add 'blacklist i2c-hid' in blacklist.conf. The touchpad always starts working when I add that line to the file otherwise it doesn't work.17:55
stacks88i ran ssh user@hostname "cd directory/;. /home/user/.bashrc;name_of_function" but it said name_of_function: command not found.. basically ive got a function in the .bashrc that simply renames files in current directory.. How can i initialize the .bashrc through ssh hostname "command sections here"17:56
srd9953.19.0-28-generic is the kernel version.17:56
ioriasrd995  Dell XPS 13  ?17:56
srd995ioria: Dell 7348 13.17:57
OerHeksioria is good at guessing17:57
srd995Is it because the touchscreen and touchpad seem to conflict each other perhaps?17:57
ioriaOerHeks, ^O^17:57
srd995What is i2c-hid anyway?17:58
ioriakernel module17:58
srd995ioria: So what happens when I add blacklist i2c-hid to blacklist.conf?17:59
ioriasrd995  it doesn't load17:59
srd995ioria: Is it bad that it doesn't? It does make the touchpad work though...18:00
ioriasrd995  probably that module creayes a conflict18:00
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ioria*creates18:00
nivacc_here is is my grub cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/12475563/ why the only entry entry that does work is  my manual added linux3-3.13.0-24-generic img ?18:00
srd995ioria: So maybe this problem will be solved in the next versions of Ubuntu?18:01
ninguis anyone here familiar with the Intel graphics for linux drivers? are they included in ubuntu and if not, when would it be useful to install them?18:01
nivacc_anyone ?18:01
MonkeyDustningu  i have intel graphics, everything works out of the box18:01
ioriasrd995  i'm sure of that... but it depends also the manufacturer  to release the specs .... anyway you are 14.04 with the 15.04 kernel ...18:02
ninguMonkeyDust: it's a question of what "works" means... yes, it works, but I've noticed a possible issue with plex home theater, there's a lot of flickering18:02
ioriaLTS Enablement Stacks18:02
[n0mad]same here with the intel graphics, works just fine out of box. i did, on a previous install, go through installing the 3rd party drivers but didn't really notice any advantage to that18:02
[n0mad]i watch plex fine as well18:03
srd995ioria: I'm using 14.04.0318:03
ninguMonkeyDust: so I am wondering if it's worth installing the other drivers18:03
MonkeyDustningu  i don't have that, so can't say18:03
ningu[n0mad]: plex media server? or plex home theater?18:03
[n0mad]i don't have the home theater, just media server running on a 10 yr old laptop18:03
ioriasrd995  normally you should have 3.16.0-49-generic18:03
ningu[n0mad]: yeah, that's what I had until the old laptop died, haha18:03
OerHeksnivacc_, why did you add that manually? does grub-update not pick up that older kernel??18:04
btcdudehello18:04
ninguthe home theater has a 10-foot ui over hdmi18:04
ninguit looks fine except for the flickering18:04
ninguwhich seems intermittent so I am not sure what the deal is18:05
srd995Why aren't there more choices for choosing the quality of a youtube video on ubuntu?18:05
srd995There's only 360p and 720p.18:05
nivacc_OerHeks I switched my hard drive from a non efi motherboard to an efi and needed to boot at the time. But since then I haven't been able to boot with any other option18:05
nivacc_I tried to reinstall grub and to grub-mkconfig18:06
OerHeksnivacc_, disable uefi > legacy ?18:06
explosivenivacc_: what's up?18:07
nivacc_OerHeks I haven't found any option's to boot without efi without the motherboard18:08
nivacc_explosive I 'm trying to set grub correectly, after I switched my hd in a motherboard that did not had efi to one that had (my new one https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/B85MG/)18:09
nivacc_OerHeks https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/B85MG/18:09
explosivenivacc_: you had legacy and now efi?18:10
nivacc_explosive yes18:10
explosiveok you need a fat32 partition18:11
nivacc_here is my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/12476724/18:11
explosiveok, you converted to gpt?18:12
nivacc_yes18:12
OerHeksexplosive, can you help him, it is encrypted18:12
nivacc_I boot18:12
explosiveOerHeks: i think so18:12
nivacc_Oerheks I think that it doesn't have anything with the encryption18:12
explosivenivacc_: did you install grub-efi-amd64-signed ?18:12
ninguwell, I'm gonna try the intel drivers and see if that helps, I guess there's little risk.18:13
nivacc_yes I have the grub-efi-amd6418:13
explosivenivacc_: so you don't get grub right now?18:13
nivacc_I can boot to grub18:13
nivacc_here is my cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/12475563/18:13
explosiveok, so what's the problem?18:14
nivacc_the problem is that I in order to boot I had to add an entry manually linux3-3.13.0-24-generic img18:14
nivacc_explosive  in the line 130 of the grub cfg the uuid is from the encrypted root18:15
nivacc_I think it has to be the efi's partition uuid ?18:16
nivacc_Am I correct ?18:16
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Norbini installed ubuntu using MBR partition table, if i only run 1 OS, no plan to make any resizes etc, will it make any differences vs GPT?18:16
explosiveno, once grub boots efi 's job is over18:16
explosivenivacc_: did you try sudo update-grub ?18:16
nivacc_explosive yes but it generates the same thing18:17
explosivenivacc_: what's /etc/default look like?18:17
explosive* /etc/default/grub18:17
nivacc_explosive here is my default grub http://paste.ubuntu.com/12477462/18:19
explosivenivacc_: i think you need enable crypto disk to 1 since you dont have a separate /boot that's not encrypted18:20
explosiveit should give an error if you try to update-grub without it18:20
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nivacc_I had 1 and I dod not see any relief18:23
explosiveyou need it to 1 right now18:23
nivacc_I mae it one18:24
nivacc_made18:24
explosiveok, update-grub18:24
nivacc_explosive here is the command output http://paste.ubuntu.com/12478113/18:25
explosiveah, you need to set it to y not 118:25
explosiveit's a bug18:25
nivacc_explosive here is the cfg after the update http://paste.ubuntu.com/12478219/18:26
nivacc_ok explosive I will set it to y18:31
RLW980Hi #Ubuntu?18:31
aedendRLW980, do you have a question about your Ubuntu install?18:32
RLW980aedend: I have a question, how do I burn a Windows.iso to a disk using Ubuntu 15.04?18:32
explosivenivacc_: so what happens when you boot right now?18:32
RLW980aedend: Shall I go to ##windows18:33
explosiveRLW980: which windows? uefi?18:33
RLW980explosive: Umm....MS-DOS?18:33
explosivehaha18:33
RLW980explosive: BIOS. I do not know18:34
explosivewin7 win8 ?18:34
RLW980Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit18:34
nivacc_explosive I am gonna reboot now, I am online from niva18:35
RLW980Can I do it using Ubuntu or not?18:35
OerHeksRLW980, use the standard dvd writing tool brasero18:36
explosivethere's a tool for making it, don't remember the name though18:36
explosiveRLW980: if it's a cd not a usb then what OerHeks said18:36
nivaexplosive many thanks for the y18:37
explosiveyou might need k3b if brasero doesn't take ufc or whatever it's called18:37
explosiveniva: no problem18:37
nivabut now I have to decrypt it twice18:37
RLW9800erHeks: Thanks. That's the tool I'm looking for :D18:38
nivaonce in grub and once when it boots18:38
RLW980explosive: I'm burning to a DVD so yeah lol18:38
iorianiva take a look, could help http://www.pavelkogan.com/2014/05/23/luks-full-disk-encryption/18:38
explosiveRLW980: oh ok, you said disk so i thought you wanted a usb18:38
explosiveRLW980: all the good ;)18:38
RLW980explosive: No, no lol sorry my bad *laughs*18:39
RLW980explosive: All sound, do you use Ubuntu or Windows?18:39
iorianiva the FILES=/crypto_keyfile.bin part, in particular18:39
explosiveRLW980: ubuntu18:40
nivaioria hmm I see keyfile18:41
RLW980explosive: Same here, but I'm going back to Windows18:41
help4buntuI just installed ubuntu 15.04 on my laptop and for some reason the trackpad and keyboard only work after I reboot18:42
help4buntuIve installed all the proprietary drivers but so far I have never found a fix.  Any ideas?18:42
explosiveRLW980: you could dualboot if you want windows sometimes18:43
nivathanks ioria18:43
iorianiva you'r welcome18:43
* ki7rw wonders when quantum encryption will become available18:43
explosiveRLW980: it's the best of both worlds18:44
RLW980explosive: Lol18:44
RLW980explosive: true :P18:44
explosivehaha18:44
RLW980explosive: But I'm going back to Windows :D:D18:44
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explosiveRLW980: nooooooooooo18:44
explosive:P18:45
RLW980explosive: what :/18:45
RLW980explosive: I shall be back now, to talk to you I am off to install Windows18:46
MonkeyDustexplosive  why go back?18:46
RLW980explosive: Oh it's W8 sorry & not Windows 718:46
RLW980BRB18:47
MonkeyDustRLW980  ^^^18:47
nivaexplosive many thanks again, this had been a headache for some time now18:52
explosiveniva: no problem18:53
nivaexplosive you don't happen to know how to resume from hibernation a swap file that resides in an encrypted root, do you ?18:54
eloszHello, is there a way to ensure that only root user can chmod a file?18:58
aroothi18:58
jeffrey_felosz: What files?18:58
eloszjeffrey_f: in general any file..for e.g .txt file18:58
explosiveniva: i can't remember what's to be done exactly, trying to find something on google18:59
jeffrey_felosz: What about within their home folder?19:00
eloszjeffrey_f: even that should not be allowed. Only if you are root, you can chmod it19:01
jeffrey_felosz: something like this??  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/protect-command-by-configuring-linux-unix-group-permissions/19:01
SaldoTquite new at this so.. where do you normally place scripts that you run?19:02
marcus_Hi, what is the best ubuntu image for me to download for a USB live linux ?19:02
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OerHeksGuest37105 all iso's are hybride19:03
lord4163elosz: If the user doesn't have write permission on the file, it can't change the permissions?19:03
jeffrey_fSaldoT: what type of scripts19:03
eloszjeffrey_f: read that..that's not what I need. But first another question - if I a file is owned by me. Then I do chmod 000 filename. So nobody is able to r/w/x. Then how does sudo cat filename work?19:03
Guest37105Hey OerHeks, I just wanted to have a lightweight iso, you know19:03
explosiveniva: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Swap_encryption#Using_a_swap_file19:03
eloszlord4163: yeah something along that line19:04
Guest37105I don´t need a lot of fancy stuff19:04
SaldoTjeffrey_f,  a script that updates the dns records. will place it in the crontab and execute it once a day19:04
Guest37105I tried using DSL, but for some reason, i can´t boot it via usb19:04
lord4163elosz: you want 0xx mask.19:04
OerHeksGuest37105 Lubuntu is the lightest, then xubuntu is pretty fast, but needs at least 512 ram, and the heavy one is kubuntu+Ubuntu19:04
jeffrey_felosz: Normally, the user should be allowed to effect their own files.  Are you trying to prevent scripts users create?19:05
SaldoTjeffrey_f, /usr/sbin?19:05
OerHeksi would try Xubuntu19:05
Guest37105is Xubuntu available in the ubuntu page?19:05
lord4163elosz: or should the user be able to read the file?19:05
Guest37105nvmind19:05
OerHekssure, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/19:05
Guest37105got xubuntu.org19:05
Guest37105oh, nice19:05
eloszlord4163: if I a file is owned by me. Then I do chmod 000 filename. So nobody is able to r/w/x. Then how does sudo cat filename work?19:05
explosiveniva: it says not to use it with a keyfile apparently, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dm-crypt&oldid=255742#Suspend_to_disk_instructions_are_insecure19:06
eloszlord4163, jeffrey_f : I want only root user to open /chmod/read the file. Nobody els19:06
eloszelse*19:06
lord4163elosz: Then chmod 000 $file19:07
eloszlord4163: still sudo cat 000 $file works.How?!19:07
jeffrey_fSaldoT: Not there.  You can create a folder off of root.  Apply proper permissions to the folder for the user running the cron job.  Just don't forget to back that folder up/take it with you if you need to reload or move to a new box/VM19:07
explosiveelosz: sudo gives root privileges19:07
lord4163elosz: Because sudo will give root permissions indeed19:07
SaldoTjeffrey_f, right, thanks19:08
eloszso 000 permissions are only for me, as the user/owner of that file19:08
MonkeyDustelosz  what are you trying to achieve19:08
jeffrey_felosz: Change permission on chmod, beware of possible strange behavior though.....19:08
lord4163elosz: 0 for user - 0 for group - and 0 for everyone else - except root19:09
eloszokay i guess I am unable to explain clearly. So I want my code to create a file such that only a root user can access/read/write/open/chmod that file.Nobody else19:09
lord4163elosz: root will always have permission to do anything.19:09
eloszI see19:09
explosiveelosz: you don't even want you to be able to change it?19:10
ioriaif your users have 'sudo' capability ...19:10
lord4163elosz: by setting the mask to 000 you achieved what you want?19:10
nivaexplosive thanks for the article19:10
eloszalso, even after I do chmod 000 $file. Doing chmod 700 $ file also worked. That shouldn't be allowed19:10
explosiveelosz: you can chown it to root and set it to 70019:10
eloszexplosive: yeah not to change it too19:10
explosiveniva: no problemo19:10
explosiveelosz: sudo chown root: /path/to/file19:11
eloszlord4163: chmod 000 works partially since later chmod 700 $file also works without using sudo19:11
lord4163elosz: hmmm19:11
explosivethen sudo chmod 700 /path/to/file19:11
eloszokay gotcha19:11
explosiveelosz: what's the bigger picture of what you're trying to do?19:11
nivaexplosive I understand it correctly that article applies to http://www.pavelkogan.com/2014/05/23/luks-full-disk-encryption/19:12
eloszexplosive: preventing user from accessing/modifying a sensitive file19:13
ioriayou can encrypt that file19:13
explosiveelosz: you can still delete it as your user though if it's in your home dir19:13
eloszokay cool19:13
ioria!info gpg19:13
ubottuPackage gpg does not exist in vivid19:13
ioria!info gpg trusty19:14
ubottuPackage gpg does not exist in trusty19:14
eloszthanks explosive: lord4163 jeffrey_f MonkeyDust !19:14
explosiveyeah you can use gpg -c /path/to/file to encrypt and gpg -d /path/to/file -o /path/to/decryptedfile19:14
ioriait's installed by default19:16
lord4163elosz: If it is sensitive data, you should encrypt as explosive says. The file can still be read if an attacker boots from a live cd or takes the hard drive.19:16
jeffrey_felosz: NP19:16
eloszgood point lord416319:16
nivaexplosive when I asked about resume from swap file I meant hibernation, not suspension19:17
explosiveniva: that is for hibernation19:18
ioria!info gnupg19:18
ubottugnupg (source: gnupg): GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement. In component main, is important. Version 1.4.18-7ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 631 kB, installed size 1808 kB19:18
lord4163elosz: If it is a single file, I'd use GPG else encfs is my preferred solution.19:18
nivacause it says Suspend to Disk19:18
eloszwill take a look at them lord4163 :)19:19
eloszbtw what's use of chmod 000 or chmod 700 $sensitiveFile once the file is owned by root?19:20
eloszsince the permissions can't be changed by anyone except root and once you've root privilege, you can read/write it19:21
ioriaelosz .... with sudo ...19:21
explosiveelosz: just cause it's owned by root if you dont chmod it it can still be ready19:22
explosive*read19:22
jeffrey_felosz: If you have sensitive files, place it in a folder secured by group permissions.  Add a group "SecureFilesOnly", add yourself to the group.  Now InsensitiveUser (lolz) can no longer access it.19:22
ioriaelosz  you should create a chroot jail, or a custom shell, or  container ....  big stuff19:22
eloszioria: i need only small stuff as of now:P19:23
eloszexplosive: read only by root right?19:23
nivaexplosive the article assumes a swap partition or a swap file inside an luks encrypted non lvm partition ?19:23
ioriaelosz  so, encrypt and no one can read it19:23
eloszjeffrey_f: sounds like a tough task in C job19:23
ioriaelosz  wait.... what kind of file ? :-)19:24
eloszioria: text file19:24
ioriaok19:24
bozsikarmandgood evening19:26
SchrodingersScathello19:27
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tehaxhqhello everybofy19:30
georgiaHi!19:31
Creyonhello, can anyone help me? I accidentally done something19:31
georgiawhat did you do?19:32
Creyoni mounted a folder over the top of my /home/<username> folder :[19:32
Creyonhow do i unmount it so i can see my /home/<username> folder again19:32
georgiaIi don't know, i'm just on dual boot19:32
SchrodingersScatfusermount -u /home/username ??19:33
nivaCreyon use df to find what you mounted in your home19:33
georgiahttps://ask.ubuntu.com19:34
Creyon/media/daniel/Local Disk/Comics 2930134008 2408402120 521731888  83% /home/daniel19:34
Creyon/dev/sdc1                       1953512444 1882492740  71019704  97% /media/daniel/3CA299D0A2998F5019:34
Creyonhow would i resolve that?19:34
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Creyonfusermount: failed to unmount /home/daniel: Device or resource busy19:34
nivasudo umount  "/media/daniel/Local Disk/Comics"19:35
Volundokay so lessee19:35
Creyonumount: /home/daniel: device is busy.19:36
Creyon        (In some cases useful info about processes that use19:36
Creyon         the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))19:36
nivadid you tried the previous command ?19:36
nivahmm19:36
Creyonyeh heh..19:37
jeffrey_fCreyon: close anyting that MAY have a lock on a file or folder........19:37
nivaCreyon do you have any opened files ?19:37
nivaalso if you used cd to enter a dir19:37
nivago back19:38
Creyonnope, nothing..19:38
rayneayamihi yall19:38
CreyonVERY strange...19:38
nivado you have any open terminals, that have open the directory you try to unmount ?19:38
Creyonnope, should i try a reboot?19:39
nivaif you try umount -l ?19:39
RandomStranglerHello. I'm trying to write a bash-script that sets up the system for me. This includes installing some packages and doing more tasks. Somehow, when packages are installed the following commands are not executed anymore, but instead printed. Can anyone explain why this is happening? Script: http://pastebin.com/x6B5TB8919:39
rayneayamii'm having an issue with kvm, and not sure if im in the right spot19:39
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Volundlessee if I get that error when copying via SMB share.19:41
nivaexplosive then you resume from hibernation the system should ask you for decryption password and therefore it shouldn't be stored anywhere19:41
Creyonreboot fixed it guys, didnt save it in fstab haha19:42
Creyonthanks for your help it's appreciated19:42
nivaexplosive They cause the swap encryption key to be picked up by mkinitcpio and stored on the unencrypted /boot partition. In my setup I have swapfile that resides in an encrypted /19:43
nivadon't mention it19:43
rayneayamican i get some help with kvm, i can get the qemu window to boot and show, but installation and execution of the program doesn't occur19:43
explosiveniva: yeah, i dunno about the key thing19:43
nivathanks19:43
nivaexplosive I am re worried about evil maid attacks19:43
niva:P19:44
nivaexplosive the 3.13.0-63 kernel you thing "latest" for the ubuntu 14.0.4.0319:47
niva?19:47
seanthegeekI’m having trouble getting Windows 7 64 bit to install on KVM. Can anyone help? Details at https://askubuntu.com/questions/673957/how-do-you-install-the-virtio-hdd-drivers-for-kvm-on-windows-719:48
bozsikarmandbck19:50
RandomStranglerOkay, apparently my script does not wait until apt-get install finished. :-\19:52
VolundSo hrm, I need a name for my project...20:09
derek01Having a problem video files in VLC, whenever I open any file, the system completely locks up to the point of having to switch to a terminal and close it manually. I know the video file is good, because the totem opens it fine20:10
Geodoes anyone know of a reason fdisk can create a new partition (sdn1, in this case) and have it viewable when you view fdisk -l, but have it not show up in ls /dev/sd* ?20:10
etybhello there!20:12
explosiveGeo: did you restart?20:12
TJ-Geo: you need to tell the kernel about it; partprobe or kpartx20:12
Geono... I shouldn't have to though?20:12
Geook20:13
Geopartprove didnt do anything, are there any special flags/commands i need?20:13
* Aravind_ slaps iKsH around a bit with a large fishbot20:14
TJ-Geo: "sudo partprobe /dev/sdn" then check with "cat /proc/partitions"20:14
humanhey20:14
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MeerkatMy seahorse doesn't have any keyservers stored in it. "pool.sks-keyservers.net" is suppose to be available by default. How can I restore it? I tried reinstalling seahorse and gnupg but it didn't change anything.20:14
Geoeven specifying partprobe /dev/sdn didnt work20:15
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InfIV,-,20:15
InfIVSo20:15
InfIVI downloaded some things20:15
InfIVto use X2GO with my dedi20:15
InfIV(My dedi is ubuntu 14.04)20:15
InfIVbut20:15
InfIVthe application Terminal is nt there ,-,20:15
explosiveGeo: try sudo cfdisk /dev/sdn then press write20:16
wileeeInfIV, lay off the enter, all in one explanation.20:16
TJ-Geo: Are you sure the partition actually changed? Was there a sdn1 before the partitioning action?20:16
kerbalnautq20:16
GeoIt is a new disk20:16
kerbalnautquit20:16
kerbalnautls20:16
InfIVwileee: sorry it's a habbit ,-,20:16
Geoso I've been futzing with it trying to get it to work, but it has yet to show up in /dev/20:17
wileeeInfIV, a bad one at that, especially here is all. ;)20:17
GeoTJ-, but again, fdisk -l lists it... it just doesn't appear in /dev20:17
TJ-Geo: firstly, does it show up in "/proc/partitions" - if so, then udevd isn't picking up on the change event20:18
eupharisq20:19
wileeeInfIV, Is your X2GO from a ppa?20:19
Geoproc/partitions is empty20:19
Geo*/proc20:19
InfIVwileee: nope20:20
wileeeInfIV, All the ubuntu installs I see, are launchpad ppa associated is all. Your explanation is a little vague is all, be as exact as possible.20:21
InfIVwileee: It worked with my personal dedi, (It was Xubuntu tho)20:22
TJ-Geo: sounds like the tool didn't change the disk correctly. Are you sure the disk isn't seen as  GPT rather than MBR?20:22
wileeeInfIV, same basic install?, desktops are easy to add remove.20:23
Geoit is20:23
Geo(GPT)20:23
wileeeInfIV, I have no idea what dedi is, dedicated?20:23
GeoI'm not familiar with what that means, honestly, its for a RAID20:23
Geoi just copied the partition table of an existing disk20:24
Geothe type is 'ee', which is GPT20:24
InfIVwileee: Dedicated Server20:24
wileeecool thanks20:24
TheloniousAnyone know why I can't change my screen brightness in Ubuntu?20:25
wileeeInfIV, Not something I can follow through to fix I think, name your sources and what the download you mention, and detail it more for the channel, there are relative helpers here.20:26
InfIVwileee: Ah got it working, it's not called Terminal20:26
InfIV>.<20:26
wileeecool20:26
InfIVwileee: It's called XTerm ,-,20:26
wileeeheh, good job. ;)20:26
GeoTJ-, any more wisdom nuggets?20:27
wileeedone as yoda ;)20:28
MonkeyDustXterm called it is, hrmmm20:28
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TJ-Geo: if the drive is GPT and you used fdisk, the MBR is not used by the kernel, so you need to use a GPT editor. The MBR is a fake hybrid/protective for tools that don't understand GPT20:29
Geoyes, changing it to fd (raid) made it appear20:29
Geook20:29
Geoso if all these other disks are GPT, I shouldn't mix/match in the RAID i would assume20:29
Geoand what tool *should* I use to partition then?20:30
Volundnotepadqq!20:30
TJ-Geo: for manual editing the 'gdisk' range of tools (the equivalents of 'fdisk') but for GPT20:31
Geocool, thanks20:31
Geocan I mix/match gpt and mbr?20:32
Geo...in a raid, or is that asking for trouble20:32
mripguruGeo: generally speaking - if you have to ask - it's probably a bad idea.20:32
mripguru(way I look at it anyways)20:32
TJ-Geo: GPT tools can create a protective or hybrid MBR, so you can map up to 3 GPT partitions into an MBR20:40
Geook20:41
Geoso does mixing them in a RAID matter?20:41
TJ-Geo: RAID has no interest in partitions. RAID just wants to see a block bunch of raw block devices20:42
Geo(by the way, just read up on GPT some, thanks. that meets my new thing learned for the day)20:42
Geook20:42
Geothanks20:43
mripguruwhat the heck is going on here today - it's been Splitsville all day :(20:48
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alex____2hello21:02
D-C-L-X-V-Ihey21:02
alex____2i am running i3 on top of xfce in ubuntu, could my setup get any more frankenstein21:03
btorchis this normal ? a ubuntu minimal is now over 1G ?21:07
yeatsbtorch: where are you seeing that?21:08
yeats!mini21:08
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD21:08
yeatsshould be about 40MB21:08
alex____2considering the LTS is currently 1gb as it is21:08
btorchok yeah kickstart is installing 14.04 LTS21:09
btorchwith ubuntu-minimal among other things I guess21:09
=== JohanJ_ is now known as SaldoT
sdadahey what does a person from outside of the US needs to do to get a drivers license in the state of CT? Assuming he already has a driver's license from outside of the country21:16
auronandacesdada: that has nothing to do with ubuntu support21:17
sdadaauronandace: not true, it's really relevant21:18
TJ-!ot | sdada21:21
ubottusdada: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:21
austin6598how do i fix this?: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/gToyV6sF/21:22
D-C-L-X-V-Iexit21:23
D-C-L-X-V-Iexit21:23
TJ-austin6598: fix the apt sources.list entry for ports21:24
austin6598TJ-> what exactly am i supposed to do?21:24
TJ-austin6598: locate the entry(ies) for the ports repo and correct the URL. Currently it appears it has too many components in the path21:26
austin6598TJ-> in synaptic?21:26
TJ-austin6598: No, in the files  "/etc/apt/sources.list" or "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"21:26
austin6598TJ-> can i download the original files somewhere?21:27
TJ-austin6598: find the offending file(s) first with "grep ports /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}"21:27
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austin6598https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HOHJ0QYY/21:28
austin6598tj-?21:31
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TJ-austin6598: Looks like the grep expression wasn't complete. Try "grep ports /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"21:33
austin6598https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/6ZbfZ4Hn/21:33
TJ-austin6598: you missed the asterix off the end, like I did in the first command! :D21:34
austin6598https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mE1klAIb/21:34
austin6598so i need to add the pipelight repos?21:34
quantshi guys, what is the best VPN provider i can use?  Free is preferable21:36
TJ-austin6598: "deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/vivid-proposed vivid main" should be "deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ vivid main" ... and you may need a second line with "vivid" replaced by "vivid-proposed" if you want the Proposed component too21:37
OerHeksnot an ubuntu support question, quants.. didn't you ask before?21:37
orfeo1Hello folks!21:37
austin6598whats the proposed?21:37
dennis_hello21:37
quantsOerHeks ive never asked before, what channel??21:37
TJ-austin6598: packages published for testing but not yet promoted to the main repo21:38
austin6598i dont want that so how do i remove that?21:38
TJ-austin6598: remove the entire ports entries? delete the files, or rename them to something other than ".list"21:39
austin6598TJ-> i just dont want the proposed one21:39
misternumberonei'm on ubuntu MATE and every time I log in a small terminal appears in the upper left just under the applications tab. I can run commands in it and all, but it has no border and can't be moved, and it doesn't seem to render properly when windows are moved over/under it. What package is this and how can I configure it to not appear on login?21:39
TJ-austin6598: Ok, so fix the line as I suggested but don't include any additional lines for -proposed21:41
austin6598TJ-> im confused as to what im specifically supposed to do to resolve this issue21:41
TJ-austin6598: "deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/vivid-proposed vivid main" should be "deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ vivid main"21:42
austin6598ok so how do i change it?21:42
quantsi need to hide my ip address by getting a VPN, what channel do i need for this help??21:43
misternumberonei just played around with it some more and it appears in the form of a black borderless box just a few lines tall that has a white terminal emulator prompt within it. I can focus on it like a window to type in it but I don't know how to get rid of it and it's always on top of any window I move to it and my desktop.21:43
TJ-austin6598: Edit the entry via the Software Sources section of the Software Center, or edit the file manually using a text editor21:43
austin6598im actually using kubuntu so im going to try the kubuntu derivative of what you said21:44
OerHeksi would try trough the gui, good luck reversing proposed :-)21:44
TJ-austin6598: me too :)21:45
austin6598:D21:46
austin6598https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1xgQ2gHl/21:47
TJ-austin6598: The PC's host architecture is amd64, so why do you even *have* a ports repo entry? Ports are for other non-standard architutures such as ARM21:48
austin6598im not sure i had some issues upgrading to the newest kde and then i just got more issues trying to fix it21:49
TJ-austin6598: Get rid of the files for ports entirely; they are not required and actively break the package manager21:50
austin6598ok where are those files tj-21:50
TJ-austin6598: the filenames were in that grep result you gave earlier that listed the 'ports' entry - pipelight ... something?21:51
austin6598https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Pj9evkX0/21:51
austin6598so delete "/etc/apt/sources.list.d" ?21:52
TJ-austin6598: "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pipelight-ubuntu-stable-vivid.list*"21:52
austin6598ok i did it21:53
TJ-austin6598: that should fix the 404 errors21:53
austin6598yep it did. but will i still get updates for pipelight?21:54
TJ-austin6598: that pipelight repo entry would never work so it couldn't have provided a source for whatever pipelight is21:55
austin6598oh ok21:56
austin6598is this normal? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GEAhkthd/21:57
TJ-austin6598: when you type incorrect commands, yes21:57
austin6598whats the command to update?21:58
floyd connect21:58
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selspertf2pickup.net21:58
TJ-austin6598: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"21:59
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[n0mad]austin6598: sudo apt-get update; if you are wanting to upgrade currently installed packages, sudo apt-get upgrade21:59
austin6598ok so no updates22:00
austin6598and how do i run a distribution upgrade correctly?22:00
TJ-austin6598: "sudo apt full-upgrade" or  "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"22:01
MeerkatMy investigation regarding the missing "pool.sks-keyservers.net" in seahorse has gotten me so far that I found a file that contains this string and that file is installed by gnome-keyring. I tried reinstalling gnome-keyring but that didn't change anything. I'm kinda lost now.22:01
TJ-Meerkat: which file is the string found in?22:02
MeerkatTJ-, "/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.crypto.pgp.gschema.xml"22:02
austin6598ok thanks for the help it looks all good22:03
TJ-Meerkat: and did that file re-appear after you reinstalled gnome-keyring? Or has the file always been there but Seahorse doesn't seem to use the value from it?22:03
MeerkatTJ-, the latter.22:03
TJ-Meerkat: which Ubunty release is it?22:03
MeerkatA fresh install of xubuntu has a working seahorse config. I run 14.04.22:04
TJ-Meerkat: so you're using Xubuntu 14.04 where Seahorse has the problem?22:04
Meerkattj- yup22:05
TJ-Meerkat: have you tried a Guest log-in (if that's possible on Xubuntu) or a fresh user profile, to determine whether the issue is user-config specific, or system-wide?22:05
MeerkatTJ-, oh, nice idea. I have not tried that. Can I login as another user without losing my current session?22:06
TJ-Meerkat: I'm not sure with XFCE. I know Unity and KDE allow it22:06
heethey pees22:12
heetpeeps22:12
MeerkatTJ-, as I was looking for an answer xfce tossed me out. =) I logged in as guest and seahorse had its settings as expected. So my problem is somewhere in my home dir.22:12
heetneed some help with ubuntu mate on Rpi222:12
TJ-Meerkat: OK, I'd focus on seahorse config file... maybe ~/.seahorse or ~/.config/seahorse or similar?22:13
heetanyone here running ubuntu mate on their rpi2?22:14
DucklingNo5Hi, does anyone know why Ubuntu automatically turns wlan0 back on after "ifconfig wlan0 down"?22:14
TJ-DucklingNo5: maybe Network Manager is responsible for managing it, not the ifupdown tools22:15
heetguess not22:16
alekseyвсем привет22:16
bprompt!ru | aleksey22:17
ubottualeksey: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.22:17
DucklingNo5Hmm, this never happened before :P Network-Manager definitely CAN manage it, but why the hell would it turn it back on again?22:17
heetcykablood22:17
TJ-DucklingNo5: maybe that interface is set to auto-connect.22:18
DucklingNo5I'll look :) thanks22:18
TJ-DucklingNo5: if you don't want NM to manage an interface, an entry in "/etc/network/interfaces" for the interface will indicate to NM that you wish to manage the I/F manually22:18
DucklingNo5Thanks :)22:20
aleksey!RU22:20
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LightweightOSHow do I uninstall programs on other users of my machine, assuming  am and administrator and the other accounts are standard users.22:32
RileyTLUbuntu 14.04 server, trying to make some config changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config and then restart just the SSH server using `sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart` but it doesn't take. The only time that changes actually kick in is if I reboot the actual machine. I've also tried `sudo service ssh restart` and that doesn't do it. Anybody had success with this? I tried on a virtualbox machine as well as an amazon aws instance. Neither worked as I 22:35
asdfhi guys.  i added the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora/ubuntu lucid main repo but apt-cache does not show firefox 40 in the list, i can only see ff 20 in the ilst.22:37
asdfwhat do i need to do to get apt to use the latest version of firefox from the ppa?22:37
wileee!10.0422:38
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support ended on April 30 2015. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.22:38
asdfplease just answer the question if you know the answer22:38
asdfif you don't, don't try to help22:38
asdfnothing you posted is even remotely relavent to my question22:39
wileeeasdf, lucid is end of life, not supported, upgrade.22:39
asdfdude, fuck off already22:39
LightweightOSIsn't there a way to upgrade ubuntu OS's without the need to back-up your files?22:40
asdfLightweightOS: depends on what you mean by backup your files22:40
asdfyour personal home dir will be left alone22:40
asdfif you have config files you are worried about, those need to be backed up as they get overwritten22:40
bpromptLightweightOS:    it's better often times to be safe than sorry22:41
bpromptLightweightOS:    so... as far as backups, is better to "have them and no need them, than need them and not have them", but you could do a dist-upgrade and take your chances :)22:42
RileyTLabout dist-upgrade, isn't that the command that the GUI updater runs? I've always had that question.22:44
asdfno22:44
RileyTLwhich is it?22:44
asdfubuntu stopped using that years ago22:44
RileyTLFor instance if I wanted to just shut the automatic gui popup thing (it annoys me terribly) and do it all manually, what command would I run?22:45
asdfthat would work fine in debian22:46
RileyTLI tried doing research in the past, my buddy and I both actually. As far as I could tell it was dist-upgrade but that was unclear as well.22:46
asdfin ubuntu, because they really stopped using apt, it will cause problems with a bunch of packages22:46
asdfubuntu has something like updated-distribution or something specialized that runs their own python script to handle the ugprades for you22:46
asdfhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades22:47
OerHeks!dist-upgrade22:47
asdfthere you go22:47
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.22:47
OerHeksnice factoid22:47
wileeeRileyTL, software & updates  3rd tab set the updates as you like.22:48
RileyTLahhhh sorry, actually I was referring to the regular updates (one of my computers reminds me about them daily). From what the bot said about it, that's what one would actually *want* to keep things just generally updated, or no?22:51
RileyTLBut I wasn't talking about upgrading (say from 14.04 to 15.04 or whatever)22:51
RileyTLkinda took the conversation for a spin :P22:51
asdfright dist-upgrade is from moving from one version of the distro to another22:51
asdfi gave you the equivalent ubuntu version of that22:52
RileyTLaah ok. I'll read up on that then.22:52
RileyTLthanks22:52
asdfi don't know what ubuntu command line equivalent is for just updating packages though.22:52
wileeeRileyTL, the rhetoric is keep updated.22:52
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derek01So Ive finally narrowed the problem to my draging a file and stuff crashing issue, Its Xinerama, whenver its enabled, it crashes when its not, i can drag folders and files just fine22:55
[n0mad]RileyTL: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade will do the same thing as the gui updater I believe22:56
[n0mad]sometimes when that pops up i will run that via command line and it seems like it's always been the same22:56
derek01but without Xinerama, I cant use all 3 monitors.22:59
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samthewildoneI'm having a situation with 15.04 where whenever I reboot, the "startup script/application" doesn't start or starts... sometimes. Also I'm prompted to enter my wifi password sometimes and, sometime the wifi doesn't automatically connect.23:21
samthewildoneThis is a fresh install of 15.04 64bit updated to the latest.23:22
samthewildoneThis is all on my thinkpad t430s23:22
* samthewildone goes into the customer lounge and waits for his ticket to be called. 23:23
aleksey!ru23:23
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mynisIs there an easy way to disable all PPAs?23:29
[n0mad]mynis: you can open Software & Updates and uncheck the ones you don't want to update23:30
[n0mad]ones you added would be on the other software tab23:30
krabador!PPA | mynis23:31
ubottumynis: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge23:31
mynisHmm ok, I'm using a custom WM, is there a way to open that GUI from the cli?23:31
mynisNevermind, I found it.23:33
mynisThanks!23:33
[n0mad]mynis: you can go do software-center and then view > software sources but sounds like you're good23:35
bpromptmynis:   thanks? =), well, maybe the reverse psychology worked23:35
LightweightOSWhat method can I use to uninstall a package like wine without messing up my system? I've uninstalled packages before, and still had parts of it left over.23:40
mynisUse apt-get purge?23:40
LightweightOSI think the command is: Sudo apt-get --purge remove23:42
krabadormynis: for PPA, ppa-purge23:43
krabadormynis: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html?m=123:44
LightweightOSThanks mynis23:46
mynisNo prob. I'm still getting the hang of apt again myself. I was on arch for like 3 years and then recently switched back to Ubuntu.23:48
frozenonlineDoes anyone know a way to quickly see all applications installed on the system when using unity?23:58

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