[00:00] <tgm4883> skynetguy: IDK, I wouldn't use 32-bit on 64-bit capable hardware but that's just me
[00:00] <TJ-> Moonlightning: true ... I'm looking at the bridge-utils pre-up script though, and it does a lot of tests before adding each interface
[00:00] <skynetguy> tgm4883, ok
[00:01] <skynetguy> tgm4883, i got about 30 different pae kernels to choose from when booting
[00:01] <skynetguy> tgm4883, dont know why they keep updating them
[00:01] <tgm4883> skynetguy: because security patches
[00:02] <skynetguy> tgm4883, oh
[00:03] <Volund> I am very irritated now. :(
[00:03] <skynetguy> tgm4883, if i upgrade from update manager i still keep all my files right??
[00:03] <daftykins> skynetguy: remove some
[00:03] <daftykins> Volund: that's a shame, on a Friday night too
[00:03] <Volund> Deduced that the reason my computer and Linux are not getting along is the fglrx proprietary drivers.
[00:03] <tgm4883> skynetguy: yea
[00:03] <Volund> it works fine on open source drivers except I can't seem to run Steam
[00:03] <Volund> if I switch to fglrx it won't boot.
[00:03] <tgm4883> Volund: what card?
[00:03] <Volund> AMD Radeon HD 7970
[00:04] <tgm4883> Volund: what's the error in steam?
[00:04] <skynetguy> daftykins, you mean backup??
[00:04] <Volund> one moment, I'll try and find out
[00:04] <skynetguy> daftykins, you talking to me??
[00:05]  * Volund runs steam.real in terminal
[00:05] <daftykins> skynetguy: did the name not give it away? remove some old kernels :)
[00:06] <skynetguy> daftykins, how in the world do i do that?
[00:06] <skynetguy> daftykins, and what would that do??
[00:06] <daftykins> wow.
[00:06] <daftykins> "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" list old kernels
[00:06] <tgm4883> Why are we worried about  the number of kernels now?
[00:06] <daftykins> ah is this user gonna upgrade?
[00:07] <tgm4883> that was my impression
[00:07] <Moonlightning> TJ-: where're you looking?
[00:07] <daftykins> having some free space on /boot might still be useful
[00:07] <daftykins> skynetguy: what are you going to do? upgrade?
[00:07] <skynetguy> thats what im about to do from update manager
[00:07] <skynetguy> daftykins, yes
[00:07] <daftykins> skynetguy: pastebin "df -h" first
[00:08] <tgm4883> daftykins: it should check for freespace before doing the upgrade (and I'm thinking everything this user has is in 1 partition) but yea, he should check first
[00:08] <daftykins> tgm4883: noted, but yeah, can't hurt
[00:09] <TJ-> Moonlightning: "/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/bridge -> /lib/bridge-utils/ifupdown.sh" which calls parse_bridge_ports() from "/lib/bridge-utils/bridge-utils.sh" - parse_bridge_ports() can filter out interface names from the list used to call "brctl addif"
[00:09] <Moonlightning> TJ-: Okay?
[00:09] <TJ-> Moonlightning: s/parse_bridge_ports/bridge_parse_ports/
[00:10] <skynetguy> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12460533/
[00:10] <Volund> tgm4883: http://pastebin.com/D5Bg61xB
[00:10] <TJ-> Moonlightning: so the bridge-utils scripts could filter out 'wlan0', whereas when you call brctl manually that doesn't happen
[00:11] <tgm4883> Volund: there is a workaround for that
[00:11] <daftykins> skynetguy: and "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" ?
[00:11] <Volund> is it the one for deleting libstdc++.so.6 etc?
[00:11] <tgm4883> Volund: what version of ubuntu is this
[00:12] <Moonlightning> TJ-: I only see one thing that looks relevant in bridge_parse_ports()
[00:12] <Volund> Ubuntu 15.04 x64
[00:12] <gcosmin> Hi, I have to copy and paste the public key into my remote ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file ... but I have no authorized_keys file in /etc/ssh/
[00:12] <tgm4883> Volund: yea, there is a file that steam ships that  you can delete. It's pretty old
[00:12] <Moonlightning> and that's this regex at the top: eth.\* em.\* 'p[0-9].*'
[00:12] <skynetguy> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12460605/
[00:13] <Moonlightning> TJ-: but it seems to me that that's only used when you add `all` interfaces to a bridge?
[00:13] <Pici> gcosmin: create it, or use ssh-copy-id, which does all of this stuff for you. (ssh-copy-id user@server)
[00:13] <Moonlightning> Or something like that?
[00:13] <tgm4883> Volund: I'd try deleting ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
[00:14] <TJ-> Moonlightning: I'd add a "set -x" just before "brctl addif $IFACE $port && ip link set dev $port up" and call "ifup br0" and see which ports it tries to add (after downing the bridge first of course)
[00:14] <curiousx> sry, what's your issue Volund
[00:14] <Volund> funny thing, my steam folder is in ~ and not ~/.local
[00:14] <gcosmin> Pici: http://pastebin.com/LenbvJYY
[00:14] <Moonlightning> TJ-: I think I'm going to uncomment the lines for eth1 and wlan0 from /etc/network/interfaces, reboot, and see if that works.
[00:14] <Moonlightning> TJ-: if not, I'll try that.
[00:14] <tgm4883> Volund: can you still make your way to that file?
[00:15] <Moonlightning> Either way, I should be back in a few minutes.
[00:15] <tgm4883> Volund: it's shipped with steam, and is pretty old
[00:15] <TJ-> Moonlightning: you don't need a reboot. Just use ifup/ifdown, or /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:15] <tgm4883> Volund: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3801
[00:15] <skynetguy> daftykins, am i good to go??
[00:15] <daftykins> skynetguy: eh i'd kill some, there are tonnes on there. does "sudo apt-get autoremove" get rid of any for you?
[00:15] <tgm4883> Volund: I'm pretty sure that is what I did on mine when I ran it on that card. Now I run steam on my intel graphics and just the games on the AMD card
[00:16] <Pici> gcosmin: you shouldn't need to touch anything in /etc/ssh/.  Did you create an ssh key for your user (using ssh-keygen) ?
[00:17] <skynetguy> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12460653/
[00:17] <Volund> I don't -have- that file...
[00:17] <skynetguy> daftykins, i think only two were removed
[00:17] <tgm4883> Volund: interesting.
[00:18] <tgm4883> Volund: out of curiosity, do you have it at that path I mentioned?
[00:18] <Moonlightning> TJ-: I'm also testing the other things that I just fixed.
[00:18] <jeffreylevesque> anyone here know why my heredoc string is bad syntax - https://travis-ci.org/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/builds/81057986?
[00:18] <Moonlightning> Anyway, brb.
[00:18] <Volund> it was in ~/.steam and not ~/.local/share/steam
[00:19] <daftykins> skynetguy: you could run 'sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae ...' up to and including 88 (name each package with a space between to do them all in one go)
[00:19]  * Volund forces Steam to utterly rebuild, tries this again
[00:20] <skynetguy> daftykins, but if i upgrade to 14.04 wont they all be removed anyway???
[00:20] <daftykins> skynetguy: nope.
[00:20] <tgm4883> Volund: odd,  you should have that file in ~/.steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/  I just checked it on my 15.04 box
[00:21] <skynetguy> daftykins, ok let me undestand this if i upgrade to 14.04 i these kernels will still show up at boot and i can into them???
[00:21] <Volund> one moment.
[00:22] <daftykins> skynetguy: they'll be there but you shouldn't boot them, i am saying remove all the unnecessary cruft now
[00:22] <skynetguy> daftykins, ok
[00:22] <Volund> hunting for file now
[00:23] <tgm4883> daftykins: it really leaves 12.04 kernels installed after an upgrade to 14.04? eww
[00:23] <xangua> doesn't it only leaves the last one¿'
[00:23] <skynetguy> daftykins, so i "sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae, linux-image-3.2.0-61-generic-pae...and so on with comma after each one???
[00:24] <tgm4883> skynetguy: no comma
[00:24] <tgm4883> just a space
[00:24] <daftykins> skynetguy: i said spaces. READ what i say
[00:24] <Chuck_Norris> Volund: updatedb ; locate <name of the file huntin' here>
[00:24] <skynetguy> daftykins, yeah sorry i got it
[00:25] <Volund> tgm4883: libstdc++.so.6
[00:25] <Volund> this is what I have.
[00:25] <tgm4883> Volund: thats..... the exact name of the file I said
[00:26] <Volund> yeah gah sorry I'm getting confused with five other troubleshooting threads
[00:26] <tgm4883> Volund: and to be clear, that is the one in the steam directory right
[00:26] <Volund> yeah
[00:26] <tgm4883> Volund: ok, so either delete or move that one somewhere else then start steam
[00:27] <Volund> okay I got it working
[00:27] <tgm4883> good
[00:27] <Volund> looks like my frustrated explosion at Kubuntu was unwarranted and I did not need to switch to Ubuntu... however...
[00:28] <Volund> provided that I can get VNC working for desktop sharing in unity I really don't care which I'm using
[00:28] <tgm4883> Volund: well the good news is that it's easy enough to switch between the two
[00:28] <tgm4883> so if you change your mind, you can go back
[00:29] <Volund> it is?
[00:29] <tgm4883> Volund: yes, you could 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and then remove all the ubuntu specific stuff and have a Kubuntu install
[00:30] <Volund> ....
[00:30] <tgm4883> Volund: or just install the kde stuff then you can choose which one to login to on the login screen
[00:30] <Volund> wow.
[00:30] <Volund> I just came from Windows twod ays ago and that sounds like some kind of wild black magic.
[00:30] <tgm4883> lol
[00:30] <Moonlightning> Volund: package managers are wonderful.
[00:30] <Moonlightning> apt-get blew me away the first time. :)
[00:30] <tgm4883> Volund: yea, it's nice on this side :)
[00:31] <Moonlightning> “Wait…so it's just automatically downloading and installing everything that this thing needs to work??”
[00:31] <daftykins> you could replace explorer with litestep too... *cough*
[00:31] <skynetguy> daftykins, hey i dual boot windows 7 those wont affect that right??
[00:31] <Volund> I do apologize for my impatience. 10+ years of being able to make my PC do practically whatever I wanted and then being faced with a situation where I utterly did not know what to do filled me with a frothing fury.
[00:31] <daftykins> skynetguy: removing old kernels? no
[00:31] <skynetguy> daftykins, i noticed it saying it found windows 7 boot loader
[00:31] <tgm4883> Volund: I've been there. I call it windows server 2003
[00:32] <daftykins> yeah don't worry.
[00:33] <skynetguy> daftykins, its doing alot of stuff
[00:33] <Thelonious> join ##security
[00:33] <Moonlightning> Anyway. wlan0 still isn't being added to the bridge.
[00:33] <skynetguy> daftykins, something like 2gb will be freed
[00:34] <daftykins> skynetguy: eh seems worth it now eh? :)
[00:34] <daftykins> skynetguy: do a "sudo apt-get autoremove" after that too
[00:34] <skynetguy> daftykins, yeah i guess
[00:34] <skynetguy> daftykins, ok
[00:34] <tgm4883> Moonlightning: can you paste your network interfaces file again, I've not really been following along but you're just trying to bridge two networks?
[00:34] <skynetguy> daftykins, i know i had way more kernels than the ones i showed you
[00:35] <skynetguy> daftykins, i guess its doing all of them
[00:35] <Moonlightning> tgm4883: https://gist.github.com/BlacklightShining/9e897888593ba791084c
[00:35] <tgm4883> skynetguy: you guess?
[00:35] <skynetguy> tgm4883, pretty sure
[00:36] <tgm4883> skynetguy: did you not specifically add every one you wanted it to remove?
[00:36] <Moonlightning> tgm4883: I'm not really trying to bridge two networks. I just have the two downstream interfaces bridged together, 'cos that's what I'm used to coming from consumer netboxes >.>
[00:36] <Moonlightning> tgm4883: the effect I was going for is that all clients be on the same subnet. It seems to work.
[00:36] <daftykins> Moonlightning: why waste so much power to do the job of a consumer box? :)
[00:36] <skynetguy> tgm4883, dpkg -l | grep linux-image did not show every single one
[00:37] <skynetguy> tgm4883, but i think its removing all of them now!!
[00:37] <Moonlightning> daftykins: flexibility. Using a fully-fledged computer as a netbox means I can make it do a lot more.
[00:37] <daftykins> Moonlightning: heh, and you get to support it every single day! yeah you're preaching to the choir, i used to run smoothwall and know of pfsense
[00:38] <daftykins> reinventing the wheel is something only worth doing when you're young :P
[00:38] <tgm4883> Moonlightning: I'm not sure if it helps, but here is my bridging setup. I use it to put my LXC containers on my local network http://pastebin.com/vHevaL6J
[00:38] <Moonlightning> daftykins: ehhh, it's not that high-maintenance :3
[00:38] <daftykins> skynetguy: you know you weren't meant to list them all, yeah?
[00:38] <skynetguy> daftykins, oh ok
[00:38] <daftykins> Moonlightning: :D i'll remember you nick and keep watching :P
[00:39] <Moonlightning> daftykins: might not be in here next time :p
[00:39] <Moonlightning> My other nick is Starthunder, by the way.
[00:39] <skynetguy> daftykins, all done
[00:39] <daftykins> and the autoremove?
[00:40] <tgm4883> skynetguy: out of curiosity, what command did you run to remove them?
[00:40] <skynetguy> daftykins, nothing to remove
[00:40] <daftykins> tgm4883: i'd said purge one by one :D
[00:40] <skynetguy> tgm4883, sudo apt-get autoremove
[00:40] <daftykins> no it was purge
[00:40] <tgm4883> this is super confusing
[00:41] <skynetguy> tgm4883, sudo apt-get purge
[00:41] <skynetguy> thats the one
[00:41] <skynetguy> tgm4883, i just did all of them in one go
[00:41] <tgm4883> skynetguy: yea, don't reboot your computer right now
[00:41] <daftykins> lets confirm you still have one before you do anything else :P
[00:41] <daftykins> "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[00:42] <daftykins> should still have at least -88
[00:42] <skynetguy> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12460943/
[00:42] <daftykins> yay
[00:42] <skynetguy> daftykins, now i can upgrade from update manager
[00:42] <skynetguy> daftykins, ??
[00:43] <daftykins> once you backup, sure
[00:43] <skynetguy> daftykins, oh i have to backup??
[00:43] <daftykins> always
[00:44] <skynetguy> daftykins, i thought doing that way keeps all your files
[00:44] <daftykins> yeah but what if the upgrade doesn't boot
[00:44] <tgm4883> it's amazing to me how many people don't keep some form of backup
[00:44] <skynetguy> ok i'll backup
[00:44] <skynetguy> will this affect my other windows 7 partition
[00:45] <daftykins> everything should be backed up
[00:45] <skynetguy> holy cow really
[00:45] <daftykins> =|
[00:46] <skynetguy> sorry its just i got around 300gb of stuff
[00:46] <daftykins> that's nothing
[00:46] <tgm4883> skynetguy: how important is the data
[00:47] <skynetguy> tgm4883, maybe a third is important
[00:47] <tgm4883> skynetguy: wrong. If your data isn't backed up, it obviously isn't important
[00:48] <tgm4883> you see what I'm laying down here?
[00:48] <skynetguy> so your saying that upgrading this way should go smoothly but just in case it doesnt i should backup??? right
[00:49] <tgm4883> skynetguy: I'm saying, what are you going to do about your "important" data if your hard drive crashes in the next 5 minutes
[00:50] <Volund> so I went to Dash -> Desktop Sharing and configured it.. my Windows machine's not connecting using RealVNC though, hrm
[00:50] <skynetguy> tgm4883, i've upgraded in the past this way and it went smoothly
[00:51] <tgm4883> skynetguy: and it will likely go smoothly this time. But data that isn't backed up isn't important
[00:51]  * Volund restarts, tests a thing
[00:52] <skynetguy> my goodness even the windows 7 partition will be in danger
[00:53] <skynetguy> maybe i better plan this......
[00:54] <daftykins> upgrades are usually worthy of a good planning, yeah - you never know what might happen.
[00:54] <Userper> hi all, running Unity/Ubuntu 15.04. Tried to install KDE Plasma 5.4 using the backports PPA but ended up getting 5.3.2....how can I update it to 5.4?
[00:54] <daftykins> the Linux kernel could nuke your drive and take your family hostage
[00:54] <skynetguy> lol
[00:55] <Volund> okay so
[00:55] <Volund> I'm trying to get Desktop Sharing working
[00:56] <Volund> Ubuntu seems to have support for it built-in and I configured it, but attempting to connect using Remmina or RealVNC, I just get an 'attempting to connect' that hangs forever.
[00:56] <skynetguy> daftykins, you know of a good online storage for large amounts of data???
[00:56] <Ben64> Volund: maybe you're choosing the wrong port or you need to open the port or something else
[00:57] <tgm4883> daftykins: it's funny though, the more I know about linux and the more prepared I am for data loss, the more cavelier I am about doing things that may nuke stuff
[00:57] <daftykins> skynetguy: nothing beyond the usual, dropbox - box - onedrive - blah blah
[00:58] <skynetguy> daftykins, any of them that are free
[00:58] <tgm4883> skynetguy: I don't know of any free places for you to stash 300GB of stuff
[00:59] <skynetguy> tgm4883, maybe 42gb
[00:59] <Volund> Ben64: I know it's the right port because when I kill vino-server, I get 'connection refused' instead
[00:59] <skynetguy> tgm4883, is all i need
[00:59] <tgm4883> skynetguy: not sure about free storage for that either
[00:59] <daftykins> skynetguy: but yourself an external disk, you can't get by in life with just the one internal - they all die
[00:59] <OerHeks> 1tb foto storage, flickr
[01:01] <skynetguy> daftykins, i have one how long do they last because one i got was defective and the other one has been working for 2 years now Seagate 1TB
[01:01] <Ben64> skynetguy: depends
[01:01] <daftykins> why aren't you just copying to that then?
[01:02] <daftykins> why do you want something online o0
[01:02] <skynetguy> because that one is almost full
[01:02] <jeffrey_f> I have a Toshiba S55t laptop with touch screen - Ubuntu runs quite well, however, after waking up from slumber, the touchscreen no longer works.  Any work-around?
 you are my hero, it worked! I'm so happy:D
[01:02] <skynetguy> even the external ones are defective
[01:03] <skynetguy> is there a way to test them
[01:03] <skynetguy> before i load data into them
[01:03] <GetOffMyLawn> Hello all.  I hate to be that guy... I'm brand-new to Linux.  All 30+ years of my life have been focused on Windows.  I recently purchased a new laptop with Ubuntu 15.04 installed.  Love it, the GUI is so simple.  But my concern is that it's so simple, I feel like I'm not actually learning Linux I am just learning how to navigate.  Any place you recommend I go to no skip over the core essentials of Linux?
[01:04] <daftykins> GetOffMyLawn: install a VM and play with server, learning the command line - also try the free intro course at edx.org
[01:04] <jeffrey_f> GetOffMyLawn: Well, what do you want to do?  Every GUI has a command line counterpart.........
[01:04] <GetOffMyLawn> daftykins, thank you.  I'll take a look at that website!
 can you use the command line? if not thats a good start
[01:05] <GetOffMyLawn> jeffrey_f, no idea.  Just learn it :) I wanted to try something new.  It's kind of overwhelming to not even know the basics, like how to find an IP address lol.  I am learning it, but man... so different.
[01:06] <daftykins> you can find all that in the GUI as well though
[01:06] <GetOffMyLawn> daftykins, correct, and I have.  My concern is I just notice a lot of content is purely command-line driven.  So I feel like I'm selling myself short doing it via GUI.  Is that fair to say?  Or will GUI pretty much handle it?
[01:06] <chris66> GetOffMyLawn> try to compile apps not in the repos, thats a bit tricky
[01:07] <skynetguy> compiling that takes forever
[01:07] <chris66>  daftykins thanks again for helping me, I will go and enjoy my new xubuntu now, have a good one:)
[01:07] <GetOffMyLawn> chris66, thank you.  I can say, when I started Linux even terminology was way out there.  No one explained what a repo was, what a sudo meant, etc..  I watched a bunch of YouTube videos and learned it.  But they seem to be all over in the sense of consistency.
[01:07] <daftykins> GetOffMyLawn: same as always true of Windows too, really
[01:07] <daftykins> s/as/was/
[01:08] <daftykins> chris66: working with nvidia's proprietary now eh?
[01:08] <GetOffMyLawn> daftykins, correct.  I guess because I grew up on Windows, starting with 3.1, and being an IT professional my whole life I just learned how to manage it from all aspects as both a user and admin.  So I suppose that's what I was hoping to not miss out on with Linux.
[01:08] <jeffrey_f> GetOffMyLawn: Well, install virtual box and load up another instance of LInux and poke around that.  If you mess it up, just reload and go at it again.
[01:08] <GetOffMyLawn> I guess the answer really is just play with it lol
[01:09] <GetOffMyLawn> jeffrey_f,  what's a recommended virtual box application?
 yep,I have the latest, it seem to have made the trick:) just as you said
[01:09] <tgm4883> lol
[01:09] <tgm4883> GetOffMyLawn: VirtualBox
[01:09] <GetOffMyLawn> tgm4883, that was simple... lol
[01:10] <wileee> GetOffMyLawn, commands are standard, you just are more exposed to the command line is all.
[01:10] <daftykins> chris66: cool, glad it worked out
 I know what you mean man,
[01:10] <jeffrey_f> GetOffMyLawn: virtualbox.  Command:sudo apt-get install virtualbox
 me too, I am very glad, thank you so much! :)
[01:11] <Volund> Well
[01:11] <GetOffMyLawn> jeffrey_f, thank you.  So the apt-get confuses me, because I have no idea how to know what the name of the app is (what it comes with, how it's rated, etc..).  I see the Ubuntu software manager gives all that, but if I wasn't on ubuntu, how would I know what to even type after "sudo apt-get install" ?
[01:11] <jeffrey_f> GetOffMyLawn: How about LAMPP, (Linux, Apache Server, PHP, Python) have a web you can mess with
[01:11] <Volund> I got x11vnc running in Ubuntu which is cool
[01:11] <Volund> and I think this layout will be acceptable.
[01:11] <chris66> I was on debian all day yesterday tryin to compile Tomahawk, it's damn impossible, that will be something for you <GetOffMyLawn> :)
[01:12] <chris66> good practise for sure
[01:12] <tgm4883> GetOffMyLawn: you'll want to learn the "man" command. Then you can read the manual pages for various things "man apt"
[01:12] <jeffrey_f> GetOffMyLawn: every command comes with manual   command: man <theappname>
[01:12] <tgm4883> GetOffMyLawn: also, most things have a -h option that will print some helpful info
[01:13] <GetOffMyLawn> jeffrey_f, tgm4883:  Thank you both.  I did start using the man command, didn't know about the -h (I was trying windows /? which worked 40% of the time.).
[01:14] <jeffrey_f> GetOffMyLawn: If you ask help here in doing things, you will ALWAYS get commands.  It's too difficult to make sure others are seeing the same things in a GUI
[01:14] <tgm4883> GetOffMyLawn: also, TAB will be helpful to you
[01:14] <tgm4883> !tab | GetOffMyLawn
[01:14] <GetOffMyLawn> jeffrey_f, that is a good thing for me, so thanks!  I want to learn the commands more than anything.  But it seems that so many linux tutorials assume you know the "culture" of Linux I guess.  Things like referring to network cards as eth0 and not explaining what it is.
[01:15] <GetOffMyLawn> jeffrey_f,  so I find myself googling every 10th worth when reading articles.  It's coming together slowly, but definitely a lot of different verbiage.
[01:15] <daftykins> well, do LFS101 like i said on edx.org - that'd be a great start
[01:15] <jeffrey_f> I have a Toshiba S55t laptop with touch screen - Ubuntu runs quite well, however, after waking up from slumber, the touchscreen no longer works.  Any work-around?
[01:15] <daftykins> but to be honest most of it comes from exposure and just getting stuck in
[01:15] <GetOffMyLawn> daftykins, yeah I am browsing that now, thank you.
[01:15] <daftykins> set yourself a task like learning to do web admin - don't let yourself take any shortcuts :>
[01:16] <daftykins> as in web hosting on a Linux server
[01:16] <GetOffMyLawn> daftykins, edx.org reminds me a lot of pluralsight.com, which I'm very familiar with.  Not sure if you've used it.  But if so, would you say that's an accurate comparison?
[01:17] <jeffrey_f> GetOffMyLawn: I tried some flavor of Linux quite a while back, but it was still floundering.  I tried it again in '06 and it survived 3 kids (unlike windows) and is STILL being used on that same desktop system.
[01:17] <daftykins> GetOffMyLawn: never heard of
[01:18] <jeffrey_f> GetOffMyLawn: I've gotten to the point, I would rather use the command line for things.  system update: sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade&&sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:20] <GetOffMyLawn> jeffrey_f:  That's my goal!  I love the amount of flexiblity/control.  It's also really interesting to see how simple it is... I find myself thinking I need to worry about driver conflicts, but I have yet to have anything like that even after messing around on a dual-boot I setup.
[01:21] <daftykins> right i think, given this channel is actually about pure support - the 'learning' convos might have to move to ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic folks :)
[01:22] <GetOffMyLawn> daftykins, understood.  I have a good start thanks to the feedback, so I'll shut up and do some digging.  Thanks again!
[01:22] <GetOffMyLawn> exit
[01:22] <GetOffMyLawn> well that was wrong lol, see ya.
[01:27] <jeffrey_f> I have a Toshiba S55t laptop with touch screen - Ubuntu runs quite well, however, after waking up from slumber, the touchscreen no longer works.  Any work-around?
[01:35] <Dragony> can some one tell me how to fix this error please
[01:35] <Dragony> http://pastebin.com/PqUx9WTW
[01:36] <daftykins> Dragony: so, line 15.
[01:37] <Dragony> daftykins: yes i even set it to UTF-8 and im still getting the error
[01:38] <daftykins> well it's obviously upset
[01:38] <daftykins> never heard of that though, so perhaps you should find a channel for it
[01:40] <jeffrey_f> Can anyone help with a touchscreen that stops working after taking a nap (the computer, not me)
[01:40] <daftykins> i'd just google restart touchscreen after resume
[01:44] <carlos> hi
[01:44] <jeffrey_f> daftykins: I've been looking, but there is more old info than new......I'll keep plugging until I can fix
[01:45] <carlos> hi
[01:45] <jeffrey_f> carlos: yes, if you have a question, Go ahead
[01:45] <daftykins> carlos: saw you the first time :)
[01:45] <carlos> good evening, I'm new with linux
[01:46] <daftykins> ok well this is a support channel, so you come here with support questions that are ubuntu specific
[01:46] <carlos> I don't want to screw up my operating system
[01:46] <jeffrey_f> carlos: what do you need help with.  No formalities here, just go with the questions
[01:46] <carlos> so I have a lot of question
[01:46] <carlos> ok
[01:46] <daftykins> and try to write full sentences
[01:47] <jeffrey_f> carlos: one long line, be as detailed as possible
[01:49] <carlos> I tried to uninstall  blender 2.75, but many softwares of my operating system are gone after that. In the end I couldn't uninstall blender. So, how can I get my default settings to my OS?
[01:49] <jcstarken> Tried to install a second os, did not work still just boots in to ubuntu. I am ok with that but how to reclaim my hard drive with out hosing ubuntu
[01:50] <jeffrey_f> carlos: how did you attempt to uninstall?
[01:50] <daftykins> carlos: what do you mean by default settings?
[01:52] <carlos> I tried to use the terminal in order to uninstall it, and what I mean default settings is to return everything as the first time I installed my OS
[01:53] <daftykins> if you really hosed it, just clean install
[01:53] <carlos> hosed it?
[01:53] <cfhowlett> hosed = broke
[01:54] <carlos> :(
[01:54] <carlos> do I have to install my OS again?
[01:54] <AvatarA> what is this many softwares you speak about? give us some examples, what programs were gone?
[01:55] <carlos> the updater was one of them
[01:55] <carlos> software center also gone
[01:55] <carlos> gimp
[01:56] <cfhowlett> carlos, curious as to why you felt the need to remove core elements?
[01:56] <AvatarA> what command did you use to uninstall blender?
[01:57] <daftykins> carlos: you might be able to bring things back by just installing ubuntu-desktop - it might pull back in whatever you got rid of
[01:57] <carlos> my intention was not to remove core elements, in fact I don't what that is, I tried to uninstall blender
[01:57] <carlos> the command I used was....
[01:57] <daftykins> lets focus on facts and not intentions
[01:58] <kostkon> carlos, Ubuntu with Unity? try      sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <cfhowlett> carlos: sanest option = reinstall ubuntu.  and blender/gimp are not part of default ubuntu so I question what OS you actually installed
[01:58] <carlos> sudo apt-get -f --purge remove Blender 2.7
[01:58] <carlos> that's the comand I used
[01:59] <daftykins> well 2.7 shouldn't have matched anything
[01:59] <carlos> by the way, I'm using ubuntu studio
[01:59] <daftykins> run it anyway
[02:00] <carlos> run what?
[02:00] <cfhowlett> installing ubuntu-desktop will not take you to default ubuntustudio.  clarify your goal
[02:00] <carlos> is it safe?
[02:00] <AvatarA> you could probably use tasksel and search for the ubuntu studio you had
[02:01]  * daftykins walks away
[02:01] <AvatarA> and select it there
[02:01] <carlos> tasksel?
[02:01] <AvatarA> "sudo tasksel" in a terminal and see what you get
[02:01] <bazhang> !info ubuntustudio-desktop
[02:02] <ubuntu-studio> hello
[02:02] <beerus> Hello
[02:02] <carlos> ok, I'll try tasksel then
[02:03] <carlos> it says command not found
[02:03] <carlos> did I have to type apt- get before tasksel?
[02:04] <AvatarA> you could apt-get install tasksel
[02:04] <daftykins> no
[02:04] <AvatarA> and try again
[02:04] <AvatarA> OR just apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop if that's what you had, I have no idea how many flavors of ubuntustudio there are
[02:04] <carlos> no what?
[02:04] <cfhowlett> there is only ONE ubuntustudio
[02:05] <daftykins> 'did i have to type...'
[02:05] <daftykins> carlos: honestly it should be pretty easy to follow the flow of conversation here
[02:05] <cfhowlett> carlos, sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop               will take you to a default ubuntustudio
[02:05] <carlos> I'm trying, but I'm new to this
[02:05] <daftykins> conversation?
[02:05] <carlos> yes
[02:05] <cfhowlett> !
[02:06]  * cfhowlett backs away - far away
[02:06] <carlos> you all sound like programmers and I don't know anything about programming
[02:06]  * daftykins does not code
[02:07]  * cfhowlett gave explicit instructions on how to proceed - but that was apparently ignored
[02:07] <jcstarken> carlos: I am very new to this to but the only way to learn is to screw it up and start over and try not to do the same error again
[02:07] <jeffrey_f> whois carlos
[02:07] <AvatarA> carlos, "sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop" , Final Solution, no Hitler
[02:07] <daftykins> cfhowlett: yeah, seems to be the theme of the evening
[02:07] <carlos> ok
[02:08] <cfhowlett> daftykins, :)
[02:08] <AvatarA> seems ubuntu-studio was sucked away in carlos's computer
[02:08] <carlos> lol
[02:09] <carlos> it's running
[02:10] <jcstarken> where can I find ~/.config/hexchat/logs
[02:10] <carlos> there's another thing I would like to ask
[02:10] <cfhowlett> jcstarken, in your /home
[02:10] <cfhowlett> but you need to display hidden folders if you use the gui
[02:11] <temporary> hava no have japan people
[02:11] <carlos> how can I erase or remove packages that don't work?
[02:11] <beerus> Does anyone here know where the su config files are
[02:11] <jcstarken> cfhowlett: thank you
[02:11] <beerus> my su command is being funny!
[02:11] <cfhowlett> jcstarken, happy2help!
[02:12] <carlos> it finished
[02:13] <carlos> what does the desktop do?
[02:13] <daftykins> give you the GUI?
[02:14] <carlos> what is GUI?
[02:14] <AvatarA> I think he means the package he just installed
[02:14] <carlos> oh
[02:15] <carlos> the installation is done, but I don't know what I did
[02:15] <AvatarA> you get back the default programs for Ubuntu Studio
[02:15] <sethj> beerus, check the "configuration" section of man su
[02:15] <cfhowlett> carlos, logout and login
[02:15] <carlos> you mean to reboot?
[02:16] <cfhowlett> ...
[02:16] <cfhowlett> n - o
[02:16] <temporary> i think also
[02:17] <carlos> ok, I'll reboot
[02:17] <daftykins> often, people choose to use certain words because they mean what they're trying to say
[02:17] <carlos> another thing
[02:17] <carlos> how can I update a program?
[02:18] <Guest86649> alguien español
[02:18] <cfhowlett> !es | Guest86649
[02:18] <carlos> yo
[02:18] <cfhowlett> carlos, please /join #ubuntustudio
[02:18] <jcstarken> Bashing-om:?
[02:18] <Bashing-om> jcstarken: Aye ?
[02:18] <temporary> i can not speak english
[02:19] <carlos> where is #ubuntustudio
[02:19] <carlos> ?
[02:19] <Guest86649> no problem
[02:19] <cfhowlett> carlos, /join #ubuntustudio             in your irc
[02:19] <carlos> how?
[02:19] <lusosector> does anyone use piratebox?
[02:19] <jcstarken> Bashing-om:two questions so yesterday when you fixed the video drivers the purge fglrx was to remove old sudo was install the new but what  is the linux-headers-generic
[02:20] <cfhowlett> carlos, type in the exact same place you've been using for this conversation:   /join #ubuntustudio
[02:20] <daftykins> lusosector: that doesn't sound like a freenode friendly topic
[02:20] <lusosector> why not
[02:20] <cfhowlett> !piracy | lusosector
[02:20] <carlos> ok
[02:21] <daftykins> well regardless this is an ubuntu support channel :) so ask a question
[02:21] <daftykins> (that actually applies)
[02:21] <Bashing-om> jcstarken: the 'generic' was to make sure that the files to build the driver were available to the system.
[02:21] <bazhang> !find piratebox
[02:21] <jcstarken> Bashing-om:ok thank you
[02:21] <ush> hello. How do I register a nick?
[02:22] <lusosector> its not piracy. you can use it for outher thing
[02:22] <daftykins> !register > ush
[02:22] <daftykins> ush: ask in #freenode for more please.
[02:22] <bazhang>  /msg nickserv help  ush
[02:22] <Bashing-om> jcstarken: :) Pleased to be of assistance .
[02:22] <ush> daftykins thanks. And apologies
[02:24] <lusosector> ubottu. i no the rules
[02:24] <lusosector> i can see
 its not piracy. you can use it for outher thing
[02:25] <cfhowlett> sounds like it *could* be used for other things but YOU intend not to
[02:26] <lusosector> just because i can doesnt mean you sould
[02:26] <lusosector> it can
[02:27] <daftykins> lusosector: the fact you're having to debate this shows you should just let it go
[02:27] <daftykins> now, ubuntu support queries please
[02:28] <Bashing-om> beerus: maybe of help : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers .
[02:29] <lusosector> rgr why does ubuntu run like shit on a dell amd a6 3000 series
[02:29] <daftykins> !language | lusosector
[02:29] <jeffrey_f> lusosector: Memory?
[02:30] <jeffrey_f> lusosector: how much memory does it have?
[02:31] <lusosector> sorry again long day. fyi win 10 runs faster and better. im on dual boot.
[02:33] <lusosector> 4 gb memory
[02:35] <daftykins> lusosector: so essentially you're really just trolling? :)
[02:36] <lusosector> no. im not. it does run very slow.
[02:36] <beerus> hello all can anyone help me with "tampered" su comand
[02:36] <beerus> ?
[02:37] <lusosector> get FC just opening 3 or more programs
[02:37] <Bashing-om> beerus: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers ; compare your file to what is the default .
[02:37] <lusosector> im all up to date.
[02:38] <beerus> Bashing-om: did that but will give it a second look
[02:40] <toter> lusosector: Ubuntu is taking how long to boot?
[02:42] <lusosector> avg 25 sec login included
[02:42] <daftykins> lusosector: that's definitely messed up, must be something up with your install
[02:43] <toter> lusosector: what ubuntu version?
[02:43] <lusosector> clean install all proper drives, latest distro
[02:44] <daftykins> latest is not a number :)
[02:44] <daftykins> i'm guessing 15.04?
[02:44] <cfhowlett> I shudder to ask but ... wubi?
[02:44]  * daftykins shudders
[02:45] <daftykins> lusosector: ^
[02:45] <toter> paste your "dmesg" output on pastebin...
[02:45] <lusosector> 14.04 so my bad not latest
[02:45] <toter> oh... try installing the latest then
[02:46] <lusosector> apt-get upgrade so do the trick rifgt
[02:46] <lusosector> right
[02:46] <cfhowlett> apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:46] <lusosector> will try
[02:46] <daftykins> toter: terrible advice
[02:46] <daftykins> nothing wrong with sticking to LTS
[02:46] <bazhang> dist0upgrade will not change versions
[02:47] <bazhang> nor will dist-upgrade
[02:47] <daftykins> :)
[02:47] <lusosector> so clean install then
[02:47] <toter> nothing wrong updating it either
[02:47] <LordSesshomaru> is it possible to install 14.04 on a non-PAE machine?
[02:48] <toter> i didn't say that was wrong to stay with LTS
[02:48] <daftykins> LordSesshomaru: what's the target?
[02:48] <daftykins> toter: no i was saying moving to 15.04 was bad advice :)
[02:48] <LordSesshomaru> daftykins: VIA C3 CPU server
[02:48] <daftykins> LordSesshomaru: ugh no bin it
[02:48] <LordSesshomaru> daftykins: If I had the dough to I would
[02:49] <lusosector> so what do you guys think the issue might be
[02:49] <daftykins> LordSesshomaru: you can try forcepae otherwise it's game over
[02:49] <shleezy> hi, i recently installed linux and i have adobe flash player installed, but i can't hear anyting on youtube? but the video will play, and my sounds is not muted.
[02:49] <daftykins> shleezy: try chromium or chrome with pepperflash
[02:49] <toter> daftykins: instead of spending an hour to try to fix the problem, he can install 15.04 in 30 minutes...
[02:50] <Bashing-om> LordSesshomaru: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2211590 Now 14.04 Lubuntu has support for non-pae:
[02:50] <Volund> okay now I have another odd question.
[02:50] <daftykins> toter: right and it might be a hardware problem - so lets stop the guessing.
[02:50] <daftykins> LordSesshomaru: nope looks like it's 100% game over
[02:50] <LordSesshomaru> Bashing-om: will try Lubuntu then
[02:51] <shleezy> daftykins: under my software manager, both Adobe-flashplugin, and pepperflashplugin-nonfree is installed.
[02:51] <daftykins> ah just seen the above.
[02:51] <toter> daftykins: you're right... let's both stop guessing
[02:51] <daftykins> shleezy: ok but pepperflash doesn't work with firefox as default, so it depends what browser you're using
[02:51] <lusosector> so distro upgrade will push me to 15.04
[02:51] <daftykins> toter: err i wasn't...
[02:51] <daftykins> dist-upgrade does _NOT_ upgrade release, no.
[02:52] <lusosector> rgr
[02:52] <toter> daftykins: uh... "must be something up with your install"
[02:52] <cfhowlett> lusosector, and distro upgrade is not the command suggested
[02:52] <shleezy> daftykins: oh my god, yes.. i am running firefox /facepalm (i swear i was running chrome hehe); long night lol
[02:52] <daftykins> :D
[02:52] <cfhowlett> shleezy, break time!
[02:52] <daftykins> toter: oy vey, mr.pedantic tonight aren't we?
[02:52] <lusosector> so no terminal command for distro upgrade
[02:53] <toter> daftykins: well... you started it... :)
[02:53] <daftykins> i think you moving to 15.04 is a mistake, but it's also 4am so i give up
[02:53] <cfhowlett> lusosector, false.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade             for the latest currently installed version
[02:53] <daftykins> toter: just calling you out for bad advice is all, no need to get your underwear in a twist :)
[02:53] <cfhowlett> lusosector, sudo do-release-upgrade for the next available supported version
[02:54] <cfhowlett> lusosector, again: 14.04 is an LTS release and is generally preferable for most users
[02:54] <shleezy> daftykins: actually, same problem.. i have chromium open and no sound, but video plays.
[02:55] <daftykins> shleezy: did you maybe update the plugin during this run? could close all browser instances / log out + in / restart to confirm
[02:55] <lusosector> cfhowlett i would rather try it. could help, are not. probably will be better
[02:56] <shleezy> daftykins: possibly, brb gonna reboot. or does logging out and in of session do the same?
[02:56] <daftykins> might as well restart
[02:56] <shleezy> kk rbb
[02:57] <lusosector> says no new release
[02:57] <cfhowlett> lusosector, check your software update settings.  right now, it's looking for the next LTS and there isn't one ...
[02:58] <shleezy> daftykins: sigh same thing bud
[02:58] <lusosector> so trusty-backports
[02:59] <toter> everybody giving bad advice today, huh...
[02:59] <cfhowlett> ??? no
[02:59] <shleezy> toter: not at all, people have been giving awesome advice today.
[03:00] <daftykins> shleezy: ah well bed time for me :>
[03:00] <cfhowlett> lusosector, system > software & updates >> updates >> "notify me of a new ubuntu version for"  TIME TO CHOOSE
[03:00] <UniqueID> @search the kite runner
[03:00] <shleezy> daftykins: thanks anways mate
[03:00] <daftykins> np
[03:00] <UniqueID> opps
[03:00] <lusosector> got it
[03:00] <lusosector> didnt see that lol
[03:00] <liquidsnake> yo
[03:01] <sirius2> I am trying to burn EasyRE for windows ten on USB and it is not working
[03:01] <shleezy> daftykins: actually, i just fixed the issue!
[03:01] <daftykins> don't tell me it was on mute... :D
[03:01] <lusosector> got it going. if i get rebooted thanks guys
[03:02] <shleezy> daftykins: no, for some reason my sound settings weren't set to headset.. it was like disabled or something, so i selected it and BAAM sound
[03:02] <shleezy> daftykins: so.. yeah muted LOL
[03:03] <shleezy> this is a little off-topic, but Im trying to get my game Everquest Project 1999 to work, i copy pasta from my WIN drive to Ubuntu, and when i go to log in it works, but then i select my server then log in, where the loading screen would be, the game crashes.
[03:04] <toter> you copy what?
[03:04] <shleezy> toter: copied my game to .wine
[03:06] <LordSesshomaru> shleezy: have you tried installing under ubuntu?  Its been my experience that alot of games depend on certain values being set in the registry that arent there when you just copy files
[03:07] <shleezy> LordSesshomaru: another buddy of mine said he copy pasted it from WIN to Ubuntu drive and it worked, hmm yeah i may have to reinstall
[03:07] <LordSesshomaru> shleezy: I'd definitely try that first, just my 2c
[03:14] <Volund> Error splicing file: Value too large for defined data type
[03:14] <Volund> I'm copying from my NTFS to my Ext4 partition using Unity's built-in file manager and getting this on a tiny amount of files. Most of them are pictures
[03:15] <Volund> Googling it doesn't quite give me a full answer for recent stuff...
[03:21] <beerus> quit
[03:22] <brunchb> Can anyone school me on the differences between ext3 file system and ext4
[03:23] <cfhowlett> brunchb, ext4 is the default and best supported and recommended.  ext3 ... ain't
[03:24] <Xnet> any security chatroom
[03:24] <reisio> brunchb: ext4 is modern patches to ext3
[03:24] <brunchb> cfhowlett: So is ext3 is just being replaced by ext4
[03:24] <reisio> unsurprisingly, the 4 is basically a version
[03:24] <brunchb> reisio: ok thanks
[03:24] <reisio> the latest
[03:24] <cfhowlett> brunchb, not "is".  has been for quite some time now
[03:24] <reisio> yeah the early bugs are gone now
[03:25] <brunchb> cdhowlett: Im new to this, I don't know much
[03:25] <brunchb> ok thanks for the clear up on that
[03:25] <cfhowlett> brunchb, not to worry.  why do you ask?
[03:26] <brunchb> cfhowlett: currently working through a book and Im creating a new file system on a flash drive
[03:27] <cfhowlett> brunchb, sounds like fun.  suggest you go with ext4.
[03:27] <brunchb> I was wondering what file system to use if a have a linux partition
[03:27] <brunchb> if that sentence even makes any sense lol
[03:27] <shleezy> stupid question - when im downloading a game would i want to select WIN or Mac? - which is ideal for ubuntu?
[03:28] <cfhowlett> brunchb, you mean a flash drive for bottin linux
[03:28] <cfhowlett> shleezy, so far as I know, mac games do not run on ubuntu/wine or virtual?
[03:29] <brunchb> cfhowlett: No Im actually changing the file system on the boot drive from FAT16 to ext4
[03:29] <brunchb> flash*
[03:29] <reisio> shleezy: what game?
[03:29] <quiet_nerd> hello! I'm using ubuntu MATE dual boot along Win7, and GRUB has a custom appearance that has to redraw each time I move the selection, and it does so slowly. I'd rather revert it to the black-and-white default appearance, how can I do this?
[03:29] <cfhowlett> brunchb, most systems can boot ntfs/fat32 flashdrives.
[03:29] <shleezy> reisio project 1999 (everquest 1 Classic Private server)
[03:29] <brunchb> Ya it boots no problem
[03:30] <shleezy> reisio: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2651
[03:30] <brunchb> it's not a booting issue
[03:30] <reisio> shleezy: so everquest (1)?
[03:30] <shleezy> aye
[03:30] <reisio> shleezy: it apparently works via Wine
[03:30] <reisio> so win32
[03:30] <reisio> emulation of Mac OS is pretty underdeveloped by comparison
[03:31] <reisio> and the things that should "just work" because Mac OS and GNU/Linux are both Unixes rarely actually do
[03:31] <reisio> unless they're GUIless
[03:31] <reisio> and sometimes not even then
[03:31] <reisio> ObjC/Cocoa is a strange beast
[03:31] <reisio> https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=229
[03:31] <quiet_nerd> something like vim or irssi will play nicely on either in most cases, but wine won't
[03:32] <reisio> quiet_nerd: ?
[03:32] <shleezy> ReScO: are those all directed to me?
[03:32] <reisio> shleezy: yup
[03:32] <quiet_nerd> relatively basic terminal apps like vim or irssi or emacs or nano, text editors, will play nicely on linux and mac
[03:33] <quiet_nerd> but something much more robust with lots of moving parts like HexChat for instance would need major tweaking from linux to mac or vice versa
[03:34] <quiet_nerd> or something, don't listen to me
[03:34] <downters> quiet_nerd: ok
[03:35] <quiet_nerd> anyways is there a way to remove custom grub appearances?
[03:36] <shleezy> reisio: i had a guildmate in eq (when i was in WIN7, he told me that he was using windows and installed ubuntu, and copied the game over straight from windows to ubuntu, and im assuming used wine to make it work, i myself have the game installed on WIN already, and would prefer to just do what he did if you know how he approached it, if not ill prob have to re-install and reconfig all my keybinds and other stuff :-(
[03:37] <downters> shleezy: maybe the data files.
[03:37] <reisio> shleezy: copying will probably work fine, as for the specifics of utilizing Wine, click a version link at the left on the page I linked you to
[03:37] <quiet_nerd> shleezy: so long as it doesn't use anything crazy like DirectX or DotNet it should work fine, just copy over data files
[03:38] <downters> quiet_nerd: you have no idea.
[03:38] <reisio> it'll work fine, it's in Wine's appdb as gold
[03:39] <downters> Data files aren't executables.
[03:39] <shleezy> when i do, it loads the login screen, then i log in.. then the server page comes up, and once i select the server ( on windows this would prompt a loading screen then into your character list, when i do this with wine my game pretty much tabs over where the loading screen would be, then crash.)
[03:39] <reisio> now as to why you're playing an MMORPG you obviously used to play about a decade ago still...
[03:39]  * cfhowlett still has Deus Ex installed ...
[03:39] <reisio> installed isn't playing :p
[03:39] <shleezy> reisio: it's hardcore :-) POOPSOCK :D
[03:39] <Volund> So guys
[03:39] <reisio> downters: :)
[03:40] <reisio> Volund: eyap?
[03:40] <downters> Volund: so what
[03:41] <downters> shleezy: data files may be used on a cloned version of the program for linux.
[03:41] <Volund> I'm looking for an editor/IDE/something that will help me sift through, edit, and maintain several dozen text files written in a ludicrously obscure code language for which there are no hilighting rules - yet I still want highlighted/matching of () [] {} etc. I previouisly used Notepad++. Currently trying out sublime text 3....
[03:42] <Volund> the files I'm working with look like this:
[03:42] <shleezy> where should i be moving the folder if im moving it from WIN HDD to my ubuntu drive
[03:42] <Volund> https://github.com/volundmush/mushcode/blob/master/Bulletin%20Board%20System%20-%20BBS.txt
[03:42] <Volund> I think you will quickly see why I want a good editor.
[03:43] <reisio> Volund: what lang?
[03:43] <reisio> notepad is a scintilla frontend, IIRC, so you can probably both 1) use a native Unixy scintilla client and 2) steal notepad++'s syntax highlighting
[03:43] <reisio> although if it didn't have an explicit listing for the lang, probably any scintilla frontend will do just as well
[03:43] <reisio> since it'd be some default generic thing
[03:44] <Volund> scintilla. :D I now have a thing to look up
[03:44] <downters> Volund: an editor won't help a person who can't write
[03:44] <Volund> Oi, I can write just fine.
[03:44] <reisio> Volund: it's just the backend that notepad++ uses
[03:44] <reisio> lots of editors are based on it
[03:44] <reisio> including a few cross platform ones
[03:44] <Volund> awesome.
[03:45] <reisio> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintilla_%28software%29#Software_based_on_Scintilla
[03:45] <shleezy> reisio: the program (unidentified) has encountered a serious problem and needs to close, is what pops up once i run EQ99 off my desktop
[03:45] <reisio> scite, codeblocks, at a glance, are available for Unix systems
[03:45] <Volund> language uh. technically it would be called MUSHcode or softcode. it is a sort of interpreted language that's run using the permissions and perspective of objects within the game server. for a MU* so MUD, MUSH, MUX, etc. technically for MUX or MUSH.
[03:45] <Volund> the downsides of the language:
[03:45] <downters> shleezy: what's the game
[03:46] <reisio> shleezy: read this page: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2939 - or try using playonlinux if it caters to everquest
[03:46] <Volund> No formatting AT ALL (everything must be a single line), no data types (everything is a string, even numbers), no separation of code or data...
[03:46] <Volund> and it's HELL to read it as you can see.
[03:46]  * Volund invesigates scintilla now
[03:46] <reisio> Volund: I'm guessing you'd prefer something like notepad++ for your general editing purposes as well, so this should work out fine
[03:46] <Volund> you are talking to one of maybe 10-20 people who actually writes this stuff anymore to any degree of usefulness.
[03:47] <Volund> reisio: oh yes, definitely
[03:47] <shleezy> reisio: will do brb
[03:47] <reisio> Volund: oh geany is scintilla-based, too
[03:47] <reisio> Volund: I'd try that first
[03:48] <reisio> I use Vim, but I put geany on installs I make for other people as a generic text editor
[03:48] <reisio> including on Windows, as a replacement for notepad and any other text editing purposes
[03:52] <shleezy> reisio: not gonna lie, im pretty confused on what to do man, this is my first day using this OS in 3years so im a bit rusty, and didn't use wine much
[03:53] <Volund> :D
[03:53] <Volund> thank you for the help
[03:53] <cfhowlett> shleezy, start with reading:  https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2939
[03:53] <Volund> shleezy: try PlayOnLinux if you want WINE-made-simple
[03:53] <reisio> shleezy: try this: https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/how-i-got-eq-to-run-on-linux-with-playonlinux-pon.1185/
[03:53] <Volund> I'm using it with MUSHclient
[03:53] <reisio> you can just say 'Wine'
[03:54] <Volund> I have no idea why I capitalized that.
[03:55] <Volund> the last two days have been pretty awful, despite many awesome things to feel good about.
[03:55] <Volund> so I'm not thinking terribly straight right now.
[03:55] <Volund> In fact, actually feel vaguely ill in my gut and am hoping it will be gone tomorrow. :( but!
[03:55] <Spec> Volund: lol, MUSH
[03:56] <Volund> Spec: Yes, MUSH.
[03:56] <Volund> I am a MUSHcoder and I'm sick of it
[03:56] <Spec> I've played me 10,000 hours of MUDs
[03:56] <Volund> I'm moving to PYTHON via #evennia
[03:56] <Spec> used to write C for ze codebase
[03:56] <Volund> once I figure out a name for my project.
[03:57] <Volund> This channel has an unusual amount of trolls who throw insults over private messages too. Is that normal? I don't tend to hang out on huge IRC places.
[04:00] <cfhowlett> Volund, sadly it is not unusual.  happily, such behavior violates THIS communities guidelines.  report such behavior to the ops
[04:00] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | Volund
[04:04] <riohendry> uy
[04:05] <reisio> ahoy
[04:05] <riohendry> hallo
[04:06] <riohendry> hallo
[04:18] <Volund> by the way
[04:20] <Volund> Does anyone have a good Youtube channel/playlist/etc they might recommend for anyone giving tutorials on Linux stuff?
[04:20] <cfhowlett> !manual | Volund,
[04:20] <Volund> I've been hunting around, watched a couple, but someone here might have a motherload to recommend.
[04:20] <cfhowlett> or www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads                     read issue #0.  get issue #1.  read.  get issue #2. read. ...
[04:21] <Volund> haha yes I have the website and manual there certainly. I was just wondering if anyone did videos. Like watching youtube stuff before I go to bed. :P
[04:21] <Volund> I like*
[04:25]  * Volund installs geany, samba, openssl...
[04:25] <Volund> python-virtualenv... so many packages. @_@
[04:32] <OneM_Industries> Just a question, can cryptowall 2.0 hit Ubuntu machines?
[04:34] <Volund> belatedly, geany is pretty close to what I wanted. Wish it hilighted my () in red and not blue and working on fixing that, but I like it
[04:34] <Volund> that blue is so faint and close to black that it's hard to see. D:
[04:34] <reisio> sorry, what's the language actually called, again?
[04:35] <notaeon> OneM_Industries: i don't know specifically about cryptowall 2.0, but with all viruses & malware etc it's possible to have that data on a linux machine whether the code runs or not depends on how it's made
[04:35] <Volund> reisio: MUSHcode. you're probably not going to find support for it anywhere, it's more niche than the bacteria aboard the ISS.
[04:35] <reisio> OneM_Industries: what is it?
[04:36] <notaeon> ransomware
[04:36] <OneM_Industries> It encrypts your files, and if you want the key, you fork over several thousand dollars.
[04:36] <reisio> Volund: http://docs.notepad-plus-plus.org/index.php?title=User_Defined_Language_Files
[04:37] <reisio> Volund: I'm guessing the .xml thing is a generic scintilla thing
[04:37] <reisio> OneM_Industries: that's basically all win32
[04:37] <reisio> it needn't be, but it is
[04:37] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
[04:37] <reisio> people downloading random executables and then running them will always compromise their security
[04:38] <reisio> but if they're win32 executables, they won't do much on Unix systems usually
[04:38] <OneM_Industries> OK, makes sense.
[04:38] <Volund> what reisio said. the myth is that linux doesn't get viruses, and that really is just a myth. it's more accurate to say that virus writers don't care about linux as much. if through any means you run an executable that wants to do bad stuff, bad stuff will happen.
[04:38] <reisio> even on Windows, you basically just need to run an AV
[04:38] <reisio> well, viruses aren't trojans
[04:39] <reisio> trojans have nothing to do with any OS or architecture
[04:39] <Volund> well... malware.
[04:39] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, I need to find a good Linux AV.
[04:39] <reisio> if you run something you aren't familiar with, it can do anything it likes
[04:39] <reisio> wear a condom
[04:39] <reisio> it's that simple
[04:39] <reisio> OneM_Industries: you don't really, but clamav is _the_ unix av
[04:39] <Volund> all it can do is screw over whatever it has permission to screw over though, which is only your home folder unless it's running with sudo in which case oh god.
[04:39] <OneM_Industries> AVG left junk all over the system, and kept 5+ processes running all the time in the background.
[04:40] <OneM_Industries> Hm.
[04:40] <Volund> Some good protection against ransomware is to also maintain a disconnected backup that's not mounted except when backing up.
[04:40] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, I need to work on that.
[04:40] <Volund> it can't encrypt what it can't reach.
[04:40] <reisio> OneM_Industries: you don't want to use any proprietary software if you can help it
[04:40] <reisio> Windows-style antivirus apps are one step from being malware/hostageware themselves these days
[04:40] <reisio> they all require dedicated uninstallers, you can't uninstall them ordinarily
[04:40] <OneM_Industries> Might just add a little switch to my case for my secondary backup drive's power leads.
[04:41] <OneM_Industries> Yeah.
[04:41] <reisio> they constantly yell at you "OMFG YOU AREN'T SAFE HIDE YOUR CHILDREN", etc.
[04:41] <reisio> if it's an AV on Windows, you won't want it
[04:41] <OneM_Industries> Hm.
[04:41] <Volund> I personally gave up on antiviruses for windows. I've found that most of them aren't useful when they need to be useful.
[04:41] <reisio> GNU/Linux has had a few viruses (virus != malware in general), but they were mostly PoCs for outdated versions of things
[04:42] <reisio> again, trojans happen because of how users behave, not because of what software they use
[04:42] <notaeon> people of color?
[04:42] <notaeon> :)
[04:42] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, Avast and MBAM are the best combo for windows in my opinion.
[04:42] <reisio> notaeon: yeah?
[04:42] <reisio> avast needs a dedicated uninstaller now, too
[04:42] <reisio> it's dead to me
[04:42] <reisio> I don't even use Windows myself and I won't install Avast! on other people's computers anymore
[04:42] <reisio> doesn't really matter
[04:42] <Volund> my strategy has been to use uBlock, google chrome, smart backups, and scan with malwarebytes periodically in case anything slips through. it works, provided you aren't stupid.
[04:42] <reisio> viruses haven't been a problem for years and years
[04:43] <reisio> all the problems are things people voluntarily run
[04:43] <OneM_Industries> Ah.
[04:43] <reisio> you can't protect against that with software
[04:43] <OneM_Industries> Yeah.
[04:43] <reisio> you have to teach people to be less stupid
[04:43] <Volund> reisio: well a resident shield can attempt to scan it and kill it before you run it. but... if you do so anyways...
[04:43] <reisio> Windows trains you to click yes
[04:43] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, that is my parents.
[04:43] <Volund> yeah. D:
[04:43] <OneM_Industries> Ooh.. clicky...
[04:43] <Volund> that stupid UAC thing
[04:44] <reisio> for friends that won't switch from windows, try OSSEC
[04:44] <Volund> most people are too dumb to know what half of the filenames they see are.
[04:44] <Volund> I am not.
[04:44] <reisio> most people don't know what a filename is
[04:45] <Volund> the UAC 'do you really wanna run this' thing would be a good idea, IF everyone was educated enough to understand it.
[04:45] <OneM_Industries> Yeah.
[04:45] <Volund> since they are not, it's really only serving to be an annoyane.
[04:45] <Volund> annoyance*
[04:45] <reisio> nope, pointless
[04:46] <reisio> it's about as useful as a popup that says "Hi I'm your OS, and I'm here to get in your way FU!"
[04:47] <Volund> what I really hate are all of these things you can install that each try to install six more things.
[04:47] <Volund> AND just to make it WORSE
[04:47] <Volund> you go to UNINSTALL this AUGHware and it tricks you into installing MORE THINGS.
[04:47] <Volund> Explicitly choosing to NOT install these other things while you're uninstalling the thing you didn't want in the first place.
[04:48] <Volund> I don't care if it wants to throw an ad up in the uninstaller but good word
[04:48] <Volund> that's just sleazy.
[04:48] <reisio> yeah Windows is a great way to murder time
[04:48] <reisio> just murder it to death
[04:48] <Volund> also interesting, I haven't had to deal with intallers at all yet.
[04:48] <Volund> just realized that.
[04:49] <Volund> installers*
[04:49] <reisio> people at work want me to use Visual Studio :p nto having that
[04:49] <Volund> apt-get is so simple for 99% of the things.
[04:49] <reisio> when you get an app to work by closing it and opening it again, that app is not worth using
[04:49] <reisio> and if I have to explain to you why it isn't worth using at that point, then you aren't worth talking to :p
[04:52] <OneM_Industries> Some things are only windows tools, though.
[04:52] <OneM_Industries> And at least in my case, some of those are needed.
[04:53] <reisio> OneM_Industries: name one
[04:53] <OneM_Industries> Solidworks.
[04:53] <OneM_Industries> The thing that I am having to install right now.
[04:54] <OneM_Industries> Industry standard CAD software.
[04:54] <OneM_Industries> Modeling, analysis, production, etc.
[04:56] <reisio> what's that other app dassault sells
[04:56] <reisio> oh yeah, catia
[04:57] <reisio> Unix has plenty of cad software
[04:57] <reisio> we even have cad software that was used to design weapons of mass destruction
[04:58] <reisio> solid state modelling isn't exactly rocket science anymore
[04:58] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, it really isn't.
[04:58] <OneM_Industries> I have to go though.
[04:58] <OneM_Industries> Bed awaits.
[04:58] <OneM_Industries> Ugh, the morning is going to suck...
[04:59] <reisio> yeah it is
[04:59] <reisio> either that or it's going to kick ass
[04:59] <reisio> :D
[04:59] <OneM_Industries> No, it is going to come way, way too early...
[05:00] <reisio> best not to even sleep at all, then :)
[05:11] <samthewildone> how come nothing I setup for my "startup application" never works ?
[05:11] <samthewildone> I did a custom command, didn't work, made a script, didn't work.
[05:11] <samthewildone> I'm on 15.04_64bit | fresh installed and updated.
[05:15] <riohendry> uy
[05:16] <reisio> uy!
[05:23] <keyvin> hey, tyring to help a friend install 15.04
[05:23] <keyvin> It's hanging on bringing up the network interfaces
[05:23] <keyvin> forever literally seems to be forever
[05:23] <wileee> samthewildone, try https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/startup-applications.html
[05:24] <keyvin> is there a way to interrupt this so it will finish booting
[05:41] <genewitch> installing wubi on windows 10, any gotchas?
[06:07] <medu> hi
[06:08] <medu> i have problem installing driver for zte modem mf667
[06:08] <medu> and help
[06:09] <medu> the driver that came with it would not install
[06:09] <medu> andy help
[06:10] <medu> any help
[06:10] <medu> i really need to install this modem
[06:12] <medu> please can any body help am new to linux
[06:13] <medu> zte modem driver
[06:21] <martman> im trying to share a directory via nfs to a centos vm. for some reason when i run mount in the guest it just hangs. even with -vvv i dont see any errors
[06:21] <martman> my exports file:  /home/martman/nfs/vm vm(rw,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)
[06:21] <martman> any ideas?
[06:32] <bitmar> test
[06:32] <bitmar> test
[06:32] <bitmar> test
[06:32]  * Doobs acknowledges test
[06:32] <bitmar> test
[06:32] <bitmar> test
[06:33] <estudiante> hgh
[06:33] <eagles0513875_> hey guys I am trying to run skype in empathy on 14.04 yet for some reason I cannot seem to find it on the list of supported protocols
[06:34] <DalekSec> So trying to run one program in another?  Like running Chromium in Firefox?
[06:34] <eagles0513875_> DalekSec: ?
[06:35] <eagles0513875_> you know how you can connect to facebook, jabber etc through apps like empathy
[06:35] <eagles0513875_> is it possible to do the same with skype
[06:36] <schwizar1> test
[06:36] <schwizar1> test
[06:36] <schwizar1> test
[06:36] <schwizar1> test
[06:36] <schwizar1> test
[06:36] <DalekSec> Except, Skype is an application, not exactly an open Protocol.
[06:37] <DalekSec> !info empathy-skype
[06:37] <eagles0513875_> DalekSec: thing is i did find wiht empathy you can add a skype account if you run empathy-accounts
[06:37] <DalekSec> Kind of has an API, though.
[06:37] <eagles0513875_> there are two options there
[06:37] <eagles0513875_> DalekSec: i already have that installed but now my question is is that broken on trusty?
[06:37] <eagles0513875_> !upgrade
[06:38] <eagles0513875_> ok another question DalekSec is it possible to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04?
[06:38] <DalekSec> They're working on it so you can upgrade from stable to stable, skipping EOL releases.
[06:39] <eagles0513875_> DalekSec: so whats my option at this point
[06:39] <eagles0513875_> to get to 15.04
[06:41] <schwizar1> test
[06:41] <schwizar1> test
[06:41] <schwizar1> is this working now
[06:41] <schwizar1> what do you see my name as
[06:41] <eagles0513875_> schwizar1: i hear you
[06:41] <schwizar1> i wonder why it cropped the t and put a 1
[06:41] <schwizar1> is that normal did i do something wrong
[06:42] <schwizar1> using irssi
[06:42] <schwizar1> oh
[06:42] <schwizar1> i bet its cause my windows box is still up
[06:42] <schwizar1> could that be
[06:43] <eagles0513875_> yes if you cant identify with your original nickname it finds something else which is available
[06:43] <schwizar1> anyonbe else seen something like that
[06:43] <eagles0513875_> nothing wrong with that
[06:43] <schwizar1> i did identify with my original
[06:43] <schwizar1> let me try again
[06:43] <eagles0513875_> then you have nothing to worry about
[06:44] <schwizar1> oh well
[06:44] <schwizar1> as long as im in i just think thats weird
[06:44] <schwizar1> like why not just let me use it on both
[06:44] <schwizar1> maybe cause my user is different on this box
[06:44] <schwizar1> exit
[06:45] <eagles0513875_> schwizar1: stop joining and leaving
[06:46] <schwizar1> how else am i supposed to troubleshoot this crap
[06:46] <schwizar1> i got it figured out now so no need to pick a fight homie
[06:46] <eagles0513875_> schwizar1: THERE IS NO PROBLEM its working fine
[06:46] <schwizar1> yeah i know that now
[06:46] <schwizar1> sorry im not the freaking master linux irssi user you are
[06:47] <schwizar1> im working on getting irssi and tmux to get along
[06:47] <schwizar1> and for irssi to autolog into my name when i open it
[06:47] <schwizar1> and im quite happy with the results thank you very much
[06:47] <schwizar1> sorry to inconvenience you so bad
[06:48] <DJ_HaMsTa> HELP! my locale is not changing even after using sudo locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8 and sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[06:48] <eagles0513875_> schwizar1: ok i might have come off a bit harsh and i apologize but that constant quitting and joining i was seeing the bot in here quieting you that is why you were not able to talk.
[06:48] <DJ_HaMsTa> it stays as LC_CTYPE="POSIX"
[06:48] <schwizar1> i didnt know it was that bad sorry
[06:48] <schwizar1> i got it figured out now
[06:48] <schwizar1> tmux and irssi together this is great
[06:48] <schwizar1> ever use tmux?
[06:49] <Norbin> tmux and weechat is even greater :o
[06:49] <Norbin> imo
[06:49] <eagles0513875_> schwizar1: no i havent
[06:49] <schwizar1> and what would be a fun thing to do with my new debian server
[06:49] <eagles0513875_> i use kvirc a gui based client
[06:49] <schwizar1> its awesome
[06:49] <schwizar1> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Magicninja/dotfiles/master/.tmux.conf
[06:50] <schwizar1> there is a link to my conf file for tmux just put that in ~/.tmux.conf after you install
[06:50] <schwizar1> i wrote it myself and its pretty tight
[06:50] <schwizar1> you move using vim movement and i added a ctrl a that allows you to send commands to all windows at once
[06:50] <schwizar1> feel free to check it out and if you do anything cool push to my repo so i can se
[06:50] <schwizar1> see
[06:50] <eagles0513875_> ahh yes tmux now i remember what it is lol
[06:51] <schwizar1> what you dont like it?
[06:51] <eagles0513875_> i do but i hardly use it
[06:51] <eagles0513875_> usually on terminal i open up multiple tabs like a browser lol
[06:51] <eagles0513875_> might consider setting it up
[06:52] <schwizar1> if you do check out my config and leave me a note on my github account
[06:52] <schwizar1> i hope you think its cool
[06:52] <schwizar1> its at least better than the crap it comes with
[06:52] <schwizar1> but you wil have to read it to understand how to move
[06:52] <schwizar1> unless you are super comfortable with vim
[06:58] <schwizar1> i need a good idea for something to make of my new debian server
[06:59] <DJ_HaMsTa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12464809/ locale keeps switcing to POSIX upon reboot, how can i fix?
[06:59] <eagles0513875_> !locale
[06:59] <eagles0513875_> DJ_HaMsTa: ^ you tried to follow those links
[07:01] <DJ_HaMsTa> eagles0513875_, i will. thank you
[07:04] <montage_au> using sudo apt-get install gimp I'm getting 404 not found
[07:04] <eagles0513875_> no problem DJ_HaMsTa
[07:05] <schwizar2> test
[07:05] <schwizar2> test
[07:05] <schwizar2> test
[07:06] <schwizar2> test
[07:10] <schwizard> test
[07:10] <schwizard> ok i got this now
[07:16] <nishu-tryinghard> I have this packages held error http://paste.ubuntu.com/12464906/
[07:17] <nishu-tryinghard> i tried searching google but the solution in the forums didnt help.
[07:17] <nishu-tryinghard> iam using canonical partner and independent PPA
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | nishu-tryinghard
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> nishu-tryinghard: remove non-supported ppa's first mate
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | nishu-tryinghard
[07:19] <nishu-tryinghard> i only have the supported one. I dont have any third party repos. I only have canonical and independent which were enabled when i installed 14.04.3
[07:20] <nishu-tryinghard> ill post my source.list here
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> nishu-tryinghard: ok
[07:21] <superfox> how d i reser a root maintenance password
[07:21] <superfox> help
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> superfox: explain what you have done exactly?
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> !info octave trusty
[07:23] <nishu-tryinghard> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12464937/
[07:24] <superfox> i reset my password in grub 2 recovery but forgot it ow i am stuck at root maintenance password when i drop down to my root menu i have tried every thing,
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> nishu-tryinghard: not sure mate,n have you tryed a sudo apt-get update yet?
[07:25] <nishu-tryinghard> ya it doesnt show any updates
[07:25] <nishu-tryinghard> since 5 days no updates
[07:25] <superfox> yes
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> nishu-tryinghard: not upgrade, sudo apt-get update, try please
[07:26] <nishu-tryinghard> ya i tried both
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[07:26] <cfhowlett> dist-upgrade??
[07:26] <high_heisenberg> hi guys, I've just upgraded my old PC to 4GB ram but htop only shows me 3386M. AFAIK my system is 64bit (arch=x86_64), what can be the problem?
[07:26] <nishu-tryinghard> ya that too
[07:26] <superfox> cant use terminal because i get the same password prompt
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> high_heisenberg: thats normal mate
[07:27] <montage_au> the issue I had were australian mirrors seem to be offline
[07:27] <montage_au> changes software and updates to use different mirrors and all is good
[07:28] <nishu-tryinghard> But the issue is because of held packages
[07:28] <nishu-tryinghard> ?
[07:28] <high_heisenberg> lotuspsychje: ok, thank you!
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | high_heisenberg install this for a boost on your system
[07:30] <nishu-tryinghard> lotuspsychje: iam changing mirror to see if tha changes anything but anyway the issue due to held packages. So how can change in mirror solve this?
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> !sources | nishu-tryinghard
[07:32] <cfhowlett> nishu-tryinghard, system > software-updater > settings > Ubuntu Software > download from ...
[07:34] <nishu-tryinghard> lotuspsychje:  No, i kknow how to change mirror and i did that already and not it is downloading the meta data correctly.
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> nishu-tryinghard: try what cfhowlett suggest please
[07:34] <nishu-tryinghard> now*
[07:35] <amazoniantoad> Hey guys
[07:37] <nishu-tryinghard> lotuspsychje: is there anything like delta packges for chrome PPA ?
[07:38] <superfox> can anyone help me to restore my pc from root maintenance password prompt
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> nishu-tryinghard: not sure what your trying to do mate..
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> superfox: wich ubuntu do you have, and did you forget your admin password?
[07:45] <nishu-tryinghard> lotuspsychje: actually i use fedora and wanted to try ubuntu too but so far i am not used to the way updates and apt works. In fedora i can save bandwidth using delta packages which only download the changes and rebuild the packages when updating.
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> nishu-tryinghard: ok, and your end-goal is installing chrome?
[07:47] <nishu-tryinghard> lotuspsychje: na just to get rid of that held package error which i came across when installing octave.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12464906/
[07:48] <superfox> lotuspsychje i have version 14.04
[07:49] <superfox> and tes i did
[07:49] <nishu-tryinghard> lotuspsychje: after changing the mirror i can see some updates now. So ill let you know after the update is finished.
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> nishu-tryinghard: sudo apt-get install -f try this also
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> superfox: you cant just break an admin pass unless you crack it with john the ripper or so...but thats gonna take ages, better reinstall your system
[07:51] <superfox> lotuspsychje i have version 14.04
[07:51] <amazoniantoad> superfox
[07:51] <cfhowlett> superfox, reinstall for sanity
[07:51] <amazoniantoad> I cant, because im killing zombies
[07:51] <amazoniantoad> but you dont have to do a fresh install
[07:51] <amazoniantoad> its an easy fix
[07:51] <amazoniantoad> just keep googling
[07:51] <amazoniantoad> or swimming
[07:51] <amazoniantoad> i forget
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | amazoniantoad
[07:52] <TragicM3LON> need help
[07:52] <amazoniantoad> lotus, its more helpful than your shitty advice
[07:52] <amazoniantoad> so
[07:52] <TragicM3LON> any service that I start, i do status, and it says stop/waiting
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> TragicM3LON: ask your question in the channel mate
[07:52] <superfox> lotuspsychje i have version 14.04
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> superfox: reinstall your system
[07:53] <amazoniantoad> superfox: dont
[07:53] <amazoniantoad> Don't do that
[07:53] <cfhowlett> amazoniantoad, no need for or permission for profanity please
[07:53] <amazoniantoad> !behelpful | lotuspsychje
[07:53] <TragicM3LON> so when i do like "sudo service transmission-daemon start" and then do "sudo service transmission-daemon status" it shows stopped/waiting
[07:53] <TragicM3LON> does the same thing with my plex
[07:54] <TragicM3LON> it's like i can't get any of the services to start
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> TragicM3LON: wich ubuntu version
[07:54] <TragicM3LON> 14.04.3
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !upstart | TragicM3LON start here
[07:55] <amazoniantoad> cfhowlett: is there a list of non approved words?
[07:56] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | amazoniantoad
[07:56] <amazoniantoad> Bladerunner is so legit
[07:57] <superfox> lotuspsfch i only have a usb key and its not working is there any way to  reinstall?
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> !usb | superfox make a working one
[07:57] <TragicM3LON> when i do "start transmission-daemon" it says it's start/running on process XXXX but when i do status it still says "stop/waiting"
[08:01] <DJJeff> 0xf7fdace0 in ?? ()
[08:01] <DJJeff> (gdb) bt
[08:01] <DJJeff> #6  0xf72eca83 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[08:02] <DJJeff> #0 to #7 just shows ??
[08:02] <DJJeff> is my libc for i386 broke?
[08:04] <TJ-> DJJeff: What makes you ask that?
[08:04] <DJJeff> alot of my i386 games and applications are broken
[08:04] <DJJeff> not just 1
[08:05] <DJJeff> for example openttd wont play music n64 nes sega emu crash on game load
[08:05] <TJ-> DJJeff: what is the Ubuntu release version, and the hardware architecture?
[08:06] <DJJeff> 14.04 trusty 64 bit
[08:07] <TJ-> DJJeff: So to use 32-bit programs you will have enabled 'i386' as a foreign architecture, so it has Multilib support?
[08:07] <DJJeff> OS: Linux 3.19.0-26-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "trusty" 14.04 ** CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         870  @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.93GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7.8GiB, 66.7% free **
[08:07] <DJJeff> VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GK106 [GeForce GTX 660] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia **
[08:08] <DJJeff> i386 is enabled
[08:08] <DJJeff> it shows up in synaptic package manager
[08:08] <TJ-> DJJeff: Have you checked for broken/held packages using "apt-get -f install" ?
[08:09] <DJJeff> yup
[08:09] <CM707`> Hey could anyone tell me if "http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/" is online/working? I am trying to install/update stuff and nothing is working
[08:10] <CM707`> I'm just getting a few pages worth of 404 not found messages..
[08:10] <cfhowlett> CM707`, same here
[08:10] <DJJeff> getting 404 here
[08:10] <anony> So, I'm on gnome-look.org and I'm eager to customize my desktop. What should I know? I can use GTK3+ and what else?
[08:10] <DJJeff> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/
[08:10] <DJJeff> Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Server at au.archive.ubuntu.com Port 80
[08:11] <TJ-> DJJeff: I'd suggest running a failing program under control of strace to get an idea of what might be going wrong, and pastebin the log
[08:11] <CM707`> Okay, it would just be the Australian one that is down right? I should be able to change to a different mirror?
[08:11] <cfhowlett> CM707`, yes you can change
[08:11] <DJJeff> using sed and changing up /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:11] <DJJeff> yes
[08:12] <CM707`> Okay, I've never had to do that... Which I use the command line and don't have the interface. Is there a command to change it or I have to edit the sources.list manually?
[08:12] <DJJeff> $ sudo sed -i 's/au.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:12] <DJJeff> $ sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
[08:12] <anony> Nailed it, I can probably use anything (14.04)
[08:14] <DJJeff> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12465184/
[08:15] <DJJeff> looks legit right?
[08:15] <CM707`> DJJeff: I ran those commands and the second one outputted this error "E: Method gave invalid 103 Redirect message"
[08:16] <TJ-> DJJeff: no holes anyhow; try the strace
[08:16] <DJJeff> CM707`: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:16] <CM707`> ok
[08:17] <DJJeff> CM707`: also check if you have anything bad in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[08:17] <TJ-> CM707`: are you behind a proxy of some type?
[08:18] <CM707`> No TJ-, there was an error (my fault) in the sources.list it's all working now by the looks of it :)
[08:18] <CM707`> Thanks for your help
[08:18] <DJJeff> CM707`: your welcome
[08:23] <nsh> did someone change their repo-signing keys?
[08:24] <nsh> ': GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>'
[08:24] <nsh> it would be supergreat if that [and the half dozen similar] errors were fixed or fixable somehow
[08:25] <cfhowlett> nsh, yeah, that does happen
[08:25] <nsh> how2fix?
[08:25] <pesari> bad mirror perhaps, remove gb. from the url
[08:25] <karan_-> hey anyone got idea somehow my laptop not shutting down properly
[08:26] <karan_-> it is stuck on ubuntu screen
[08:26] <nsh> hmm
[08:26] <anony> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12465266/ Has it been changed?
[08:26] <karan_-> same with reboot
[08:26] <cfhowlett> nsh, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12465267/
[08:26] <nsh> on it
[08:27] <badbodh> karan_-: run "dmseg|pastebinit" and share the url.
[08:31] <suraj> how to upgrade UBuntu 14.04 to 15.04 ?
[08:33] <nsh> following cfhowlett's felt mostly fixed, but still this error 'W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D9885EE11591F4CD
[08:33] <nsh> '
[08:34] <nsh> should i just grab that key into gpg?
[08:35] <nsh> but it doesn't go to gpg; i guess apt stores it keys somewhere else
[08:35] <karan__> babodh: http://dpaste.com/20PQF33
[08:35] <badbodh> nsh: ppa page will have link to the gpg key. copy that key's contents into a text file and 'import' in software sources
[08:35] <karan__> sorry connection issue
[08:35] <lvleph> Anyone come across this? For some reason unity-settings-daemon can't connect to accessibility bus
[08:35] <nsh> badbodh, RIGHT ON
[08:35] <badbodh> karan__: your freeze happens only on shutdown or boot too ?
[08:36] <karan__> badbodh:only on shutdown and reboot
[08:37] <pa> is it possible to disable the software updater dialogn "the computer needs to restart"?
[08:38] <badbodh> karan__: ...reboot is just a command to do shutdown+boot, there is no separate thing as 'reboot'. i'll assume it only happens on shutdown.
[08:38] <badbodh> karan__: is yours a fresh install ? if not , how many days you've been using it
[08:38] <karan__> badbodh, i shifted from Linux Mint to ubuntu today
[08:39] <karan__> and yes its a fresh install
[08:39] <badbodh> and did your problem start from the first time you used it, or after any install/config editing
[08:39] <karan__> badbodh, from first time
[08:39] <karan__> had this issue in 14.04 too
[08:40] <karan__> that's why shifted to mint. but same issue in mint 17.1
[08:40] <badbodh> do you have any graphics card or wi-fi device, if yes what are the manufactureres
[08:40] <karan__> its a stock laptop, atheros wlan
[08:40] <badbodh> mint is basically ubuntu 14.04, just changing distros won;t help till we can pin down the issue
[08:41] <badbodh> graphics card ? nvdia/ati ?
[08:41] <karan__> nope it got integrated intel graaphics
[08:42] <karan__> but when i was on Debian Jessie i have to install firmware-realtek and firmware-atheros
[08:42] <karan__> as they are non-free
[08:42] <badbodh> in jessie you have to enable non-free section by editing sources.list, but atheros don;t play with linux anyway so don;t bother
[08:43] <karan__> yes i used a differnt sources.list
[08:43] <badbodh> now the reboot part, when you reboot does it freeze during shutdown or during next boot
[08:43] <karan__> shutdown
[08:43] <karan__> as you said reboot is just = shut + boot, problem is when shutting system down
[08:43] <pa> i also tried mint a couple of days ago, then sticked to ubuntu
[08:44] <pa> but maybe i'll move from gnome-flashback to mate
[08:44] <TJ-> karan__: shutdown issues are usually caused by ACPI firmware issues; you can sometimes influence the behaviour by using "acpi_osi=Linux"
[08:44] <TJ-> karan__: Do you get different behaviour if the PC is booted/installed in UEFI mode rather than Legacy/BIOS currently - as your apstebin shows
[08:45] <karan__> TJ-, yes in UEFI things were working fine
[08:46] <karan__> but i got Grub issues with UEFI don't know but sometimes grub doesn't show up and it shows a simple white screen
[08:46] <karan__> when i turn system on
[08:46] <karan__> on UEFI
[08:46] <TJ-> karan__: I thought so; I'd suggest (re)installing Ubuntu in UEFI mode
[08:47] <badbodh> TJ-: thanks, i was about to go through the entire dmseg :P
[08:47] <karan__> but TJ- grub issue will still be there
[08:47] <TJ-> karan__: the whitescreen issue can be worked around - that's usually caused by the UEFI GPU driver not behaving quite as expected :)
[08:47] <Tachyon_> hello
[08:47] <TJ-> karan__: let me see if I can find the info on the workaround. I saw it a couple months ago
[08:47] <nsh> for future reference, the simplest incantation for me problem was: # apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys D9885EE11591F4CD
[08:48] <karan__> TJ-, Cool , in mean time should i start installing Ubuntu in UEFI?
[08:48] <Tachyon_> of course I came here with a problem :D
[08:48] <nsh> you can use gpg --search-keys to find the relevant keyserver
[08:49] <TJ-> karan__: When you do boot Ubuntu in UEFI mode - aside from the GRUB issue - does the system boot to Linux with a correct display?
[08:49] <karan__> TJ-, yep
[08:49] <karan__> if i force power down in white screen and then boot then grub shows out perfectly fine
[08:50] <karan__> TJ-, ^
[08:50] <TJ-> karan__: hmmm, does that equate to 'cold boot GRUB is fine' but 'warm boot (reboot) GRUB has problems' ?
[08:50] <Karan_> TJ-: yes
[08:51] <Karan_> Logged in via phone :)
[08:51] <Karan_> In bios now.
[08:53] <anony> How can I change the window Slide-bars?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> anony: scrollbars?
[08:55] <anony> lotuspsychje, just found it ^_^ Yes, I switched it to 'Legacy bars'
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> !info unity-tweak-tool | anony handy program
[08:59] <Karan_> Tj-, installing ubuntu
[09:05] <Tachyon_> hello. after I boot ubuntu and I've selected install ubuntu, few seconds later my screen it shows me a message like cannot display this video mode, please change res. ehat should I do ?
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Tachyon_ maybe try this?
[09:07] <anony> Tachyon_, for starters did you try anything?
[09:07] <Tachyon_> "starters" ?
[09:08] <anony> Tachyon_, To begin with*
[09:09] <Tachyon_> yes, few days ago I came here and I ask the same question and the answer is to try to install with "vesa driver". I search it in the install screen, but I coundt find anything like VESA.
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: what kind of grafix card do you have mate?
[09:10] <Tachyon_> gtx 970
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: is that an optimus card?
[09:11] <Tachyon_> idk what you mean with optimus :D
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> no its not, looked it up
[09:11] <Tachyon_> GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 970 OC WindForce 3X 4GB DDR5 256-bit
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: wich ubuntu version are you trying to install
[09:12] <Tachyon_> ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: hmm that should work fine on your card
[09:12] <Tachyon_> my screen shows me it cannot show that resolution, to change it to 1280 x 1024.. yeah.. old screen
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: your card uses hdmi or dvi or vga to your screen?
[09:13] <Tachyon_> my old screen uses a vga cable, but I use a vga-dvi adaptor
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> ok
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: is there an 'auto' button on your monitor?
[09:14] <Tachyon_> Gembird 1x DVI-A Male - 1x VGA Female
[09:14] <Tachyon_> yes, it is
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: what happens when you press
[09:14] <Tachyon_> I use it only the image si more-lefty or more righty to centre it
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: have you tryed live usb mode?
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> instead of install
[09:15] <Tachyon_> um.. idk what is it
[09:15] <Tachyon_> I have never used Linux before :D
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: you have 2 options at ubuntu usb install: try or install
[09:15] <Tachyon_> Yes, I have
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: same resolution error?
[09:16] <Tachyon_> yes
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: maybe look into bios, if settings are correcly
[09:16] <Tachyon_> I haven't modifies BIOS/UEFI settings
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: try that nomodeset option
[09:17] <Tachyon_> the setting are like in the factory
[09:18] <Tachyon_> ok, I restart now and try
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: thats with boot options F6
[09:18] <Tachyon_> ok
[09:18] <Tachyon_> I restart now
[09:19] <karan> badbodh, in UEFI shutdown working fine
[09:29] <Tachyon_> I'm back :>
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: any luck?
[09:30] <Tachyon_> nope
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: what happened
[09:30] <Tachyon_> this http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/16/13/35/99/20150910.jpg
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: thats a warning from your monitor, not ubuntu
[09:32] <Tachyon_> yes, didnt I mention this ?
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: maybe your 'older' screen cant handle the monster card
[09:32] <Tachyon_> I thought is clear... sorry
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: you have another screen or a friend that can help you test another monitor
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: with dvi or hdmi
[09:33] <Tachyon_> it is my only screen and it will be too complicated to borrow a screen
[09:34] <Tachyon_> for transport
[09:34] <Tachyon_> too complicate for transport
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: you could try a xubuntu or lubuntu perhaps, but my guess its your screen that doesnt like your cards resolution
[09:34] <Tachyon_> yes..
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: did your same screen here work with another Os?
[09:34] <Tachyon_> my gtx 970 :(
[09:35] <Tachyon_> really now it works roght with windows 7
[09:35] <Tachyon_> right *
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[09:35] <Tachyon_> is the same computer
[09:35] <linocisco> hi
[09:35] <Tachyon_> hi
[09:36] <Tachyon_> could I make the res lower ?
[09:36] <linocisco> I am now using internet from Nokia E-5 via usb cable
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: try a xubuntu/lubuntu usb perhaps, see what it does there
[09:36] <linocisco> using on ubuntu desktop is fine
[09:36] <linocisco> what about on server?
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: maybe ask the #ubuntu-server guys
[09:37] <Tachyon_> ubuntu worked fine in my old computer :(
[09:37] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, i did. no reply ever
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: ok, re-ask here once in a while then
[09:37] <Tachyon_> cant I boot it with processor's graphic ?
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: you can try change bios settings, like i suggested before yes
[09:38] <Tachyon_> no idea how to do it :D
[09:38] <Tachyon_> in this bios
[09:38] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, ok. let me wait for 3min before next request
[09:38] <Tachyon_> in this pc bios
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: normally your card supports intel, but you can ask howto in ##hardware
[09:39] <Tachyon_> HD 4600
[09:40] <Tachyon_> it's a Intel Haswell Refresh, Core i7 4790 3.6GHz, can you guide me how to do this settings ?
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: ask in ##hardware please
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> Tachyon_: this isnt an ubuntu issue really
[09:40] <Tachyon_> ok thank you
[09:46] <Tachyon_> Cannot send to channel: ##hardware is this normal :D ?
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> !register | Tachyon_
[10:00] <Tachyon_> hi
[10:01] <Tachyon_> Trying to install ubuntu I got this message http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/16/13/35/99/20150910.jpg on my screen. What should I do ?
[10:04] <Tachyon_> um .. NeverWinter ##hardware Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
[10:04] <cfhowlett> Tachyon_, as explained earlier, this is a HARDWARE problem not a software problem.  lower your display resolution settings
[10:04] <Tachyon_> yes, im trying to write on hardware
[10:04] <Tachyon_> .... trying
[10:04] <Tachyon_> sorry if I writed again here
[10:05] <SCHAAP137> *wrote
[10:05] <Tachyon_> sorry if I wrote again here
[10:07] <Tachyon_> why I'm banned on hardware :( ?
[10:08] <Technobliterator> is there any way to stop my desktop computer from thinking it is a laptop?
[10:08] <Technobliterator> I don't get why it gives me all this power management stuff slowing down my USB devices when I have no need for them
[10:14] <Tachyonn> I don't understand why I'm banned on ##hardware :(
[10:16] <cfhowlett> Tachyon_, nothing to do with this channel ...
[10:18] <Tachyon_> Yes... I think I just have to go to ask on forum.. ##hardware hates me :(
[10:46] <anonymous_> hello
[10:48] <anonymous_> hello
[10:48] <vrittika> Hello!!
[10:48] <cfhowlett> !ask | Anonaly
[10:49] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, see above ^^^
[10:49] <anonymous_> are your hackers?
[10:50] <anonymous_> auuu
[10:51] <anonymous_> somebody hear me?
[10:54] <charlesW> What can I do about my ubuntu 14.04LTS, I click on "System Settings
[10:57] <charlesW> What can I do about my ubuntu 14.04LTS, I click on "System Settings" and it opens, then the screen greys out and stays that way. I can do anything else on the desktop that I want to do, except for things inside the "system settings"...?
[11:13] <DJJeff> how do I track this down?
[11:13] <DJJeff> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C5D7718106438B87
[11:14] <DJJeff> if gives us the pubkey but does not tell us which ppa it is
[11:14] <Ben64> add the key, or add the repository properly and it adds it automatically
[11:14] <DJJeff> and when you have like 30 ppa hard to track down
[11:15] <DJJeff> was there an application that could track down missing gpg and fetch them for you?
[11:15] <Ben64> no
[11:16] <DJJeff> I remember back in ubuntu 10.10 using an app that would find missing gpg and add them for you
[11:16] <DJJeff> I since lost it
[11:16] <Ben64> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1263676
[11:17] <DJJeff> it would be helpful if apt-get would tell the user which ppa is missing the key
[11:17] <Ben64> did you look at the link
[11:18] <DJJeff> tracking them down 1 by 1 is stupid silly
[11:18] <Ben64> i'll take that as a no
[11:18] <rrp-guest_|41752> Help needed: When I lock my Ubuntu 14.04, login back, I see that the all 4 cores have the load jumped up to 80%
[11:18] <DJJeff> just saying that if running apt-get tells you its missing it SHOULD give you the full url of the ppa
[11:18] <rrp-guest_|41752> is there a fix?
[11:18] <DJJeff> would be just a nice thing todo
[11:19] <Ben64> rrp-guest_|41752: use something like htop to see what it is
[11:19] <DJJeff> probley 2 lines of code to fix
[11:19] <Ben64> DJJeff: or just add the ppa properly in the first place
[11:19] <rrp-guest_|41752> htop?
[11:19] <Ben64> rrp-guest_|41752: yep, its a program
[11:19] <DJJeff> htop is a terminal program
[11:19] <DJJeff> that shows cpu and memory usage
[11:19] <DJJeff> and can be sorted
[11:19] <DJJeff> to show the top ones on the top of the list
[11:20] <Ben64> DJJeff: cool it with the enter key
[11:20] <DJJeff> Ben64: cool it with your poor advice
[11:20] <DJJeff> you did not even tell him what kind of program it was
[11:20] <Ben64> i gave you a solution, sorry that you don't like it
[11:20]  * cfhowlett adds one more to /ignore
[11:21] <DJJeff> 1 less user of 1,755 I am in tears now
[11:22] <anon__> hi!
[11:23] <rrp-guest_|41752> All cpu's are 50-60%, by compiz.
[11:23] <rrp-guest_|41752> .. when locked
[11:23] <DJJeff> compiz eh? are you on latest graphics drivers?
[11:24] <DJJeff> using open source or drivers from the vendor itself
[11:24] <cfhowlett> Ben64, question on that bad pubkey.  I see from the link that only half of the pubkey is requested from keyserver?  not the WHOLE thing; F92F76A .... ???
[11:24] <rrp-guest_|41752> no. I have tried all the nvidia version, but non seems to work, so I used devault on Ubuntu.
[11:24] <rrp-guest_|41752> However, no high load, when I'm using the ubuntu unlocked
[11:24] <Ben64> cfhowlett: yeah thats the identifier or something, can't think of the actual words for it right now
[11:24] <DJJeff> rrp-guest_|41752: does the same thing happen on nouvoux drivers?
[11:25] <DJJeff> Ben64: if you are tired and unhelpful just head to bed
[11:25] <cfhowlett> Ben64, so how would I know what part to request from the alphanumeric string?  or would it break things to just copy/pasta the whole thing?
[11:25] <Ben64> DJJeff: keep your comments to yourself
[11:26] <DJJeff> Ben64: you clearly sound tired and upset
[11:26] <Ben64> cfhowlett: like my link said, the last 8 characters
[11:26] <cfhowlett> Ben64,  got it.  thanks!!
[11:26] <charlesW> When I click on "System Settings" and it opens, then the screen greys out and stays that way. I can do anything else on the desktop that I want to do, except for things inside the "system settings"...Any ideas on a fix?
[11:26] <rrp-guest_|41752> using xorg Nouveau
[11:27] <DJJeff> rrp-guest_|41752: so you have tried the Nouveau drivers with the same results
[11:27] <charlesW> When I click on "System Settings" and it opens, then the screen greys out and stays that way. I can do anything else on the desktop that I want to do, except for things inside the "system settings"...Any ideas on a fix?
[11:27] <DJJeff> rrp-guest_|41752: does it only happen with compiz? have you tried stress testing your gfx?
[11:27] <rrp-guest_|41752> yes. that's the only one that I have that works in addition of NVidia
[11:28] <rrp-guest_|41752> nothing else tested. Issue is the CPU load when UI is locked.
[11:28] <charlesW> When I click on "System Settings" and it opens, then the screen greys out and stays that way. I can do anything else on the desktop that I want to do, except for things inside the "system settings"...Any ideas on a fix?
[11:28] <Ben64> !patience | charlesW
[11:29] <DJJeff> rrp-guest_|41752: can you suspend resume without issues?
[11:29] <rrp-guest_|41752> that work ok
[11:29] <DJJeff> so its not really a power issue or a driver issue it may be a compiz problem
[11:30] <DJJeff> you might try rebooting with compiz disabled
[11:30] <DJJeff> and see how far you get
[11:31] <rrp-guest_|41752> I have not tried to disable combiz. Wouldn't that prevent Ubuntu to work?
[11:31] <DJJeff> compiz is just fancy graphics
[11:31] <DJJeff> I do not use compiz with Xfce
[11:31] <DJJeff> and have no problems
[11:31] <rrp-guest_|41752> How do I disable it?
[11:31] <charlesW> something went wrong with my text, let me try this again...
[11:31] <charlesW> When I click on "System Settings" and it opens, then the screen greys out and stays that way. I can do anything else on the desktop that I want to do, except for things inside the "system settings"...Any ideas on a fix?
[11:32] <DJJeff> charlesW: you have sent that 4 times now
[11:32] <cfhowlett> charlesW, you are asking WAY too freguently!  every 2 minutes?!!!  really?  be patient!
[11:32] <DJJeff> rrp-guest_|41752: just stop compiz from auto starting somehow
[11:32] <charlesW> sorry yall, I could not see anything being posted.
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> charlesW  every 10-15 minutes, until someone enters who can help
[11:32] <DJJeff> probley a guide online how todo it and you can always re enable compiz after
[11:33] <rrp-guest_|41752> ok - I'll try that next. Thans!
[11:33] <charlesW> sorry about that, My chat text was invisible for a moment.
[11:46] <robattila256> How come when I run /usr/bin/chromium in terminal it opens the browser fine, but if I make a shortcut to it with ln -s the file just opens up it's text contents
[11:46] <robattila256> I tried chmod +x to
[11:46] <bancik> hi, what is the safest way of removing a kernel in ubuntu server 14.04
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | bancik
[11:47] <bancik> sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-... deletes all the kernels but the last one
[11:47] <charlesW> how about this....How do I get Admin access using terminal while l am logged in as a normal user?
[11:48] <Ben64> charlesW: run the command with sudo
[11:48] <bancik> lotuspsychje, I am using ubuntu server and I do not have any gui tools
[11:48] <charlesW> thanks
[11:48] <robattila256> or just type sudo -s
[11:48] <robattila256> to perma admin
[11:48] <Ben64> which isn't a great idea
[11:49] <cfhowlett> bancik, you can remove via the command line
[11:49] <cfhowlett> http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[11:50] <robattila256> Ben64: it's fine if you know the commands aren't going to write into your roots home directory
[11:52] <Ben64> robattila256: but you didn't mention any of the negatives
[11:52] <robattila256> when I find what those are ill mention them lol
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hi mate
[11:53] <alexbucuresti> hi
[11:53] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: put discuss back in your favs mate :p
[11:54] <Ben64> robattila256: if someone asks how to run something as root, don't give them a command to turn them into root...
[11:55] <cfhowlett> !root | robattila256
[11:56] <winston314159> Hi, which file should I change in order to have other tty loading at startup
[11:56] <robattila256> winston314159: probably .xinitrc
[11:56] <__DEFC0N__> hi
[11:57] <robattila256> __DEFC0N__: hi
[11:57] <bancik> cfhowlett, I get this: The following packages will be REMOVED: linux-generic* linux-image-3.13.0-63-generic*, linux-image-extra-3.13.0-63-generic* linux-image-generic*
[11:57] <bancik> as far as I know linux-image-generic* must not be removed
[11:57] <cfhowlett> bancik, i'm not on server.  best practice is to remove all but the 2 most recent kernels.
[11:57] <__DEFC0N__> bancik: what is the problem ?
[11:58] <bancik> I want to keep an older kernel
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> __DEFC0N__: <bancik> hi, what is the safest way of removing a kernel in ubuntu server 14.04
[11:58] <bancik> the newest one is causing problems with the shorewall
[11:58] <charlesW> In terminal, What command cleans the system up? OR what is an alternative program for this?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> bancik, yes the tutorial explicitly states DO NOT remove linux-image-generic
[11:59] <bancik> yes
[11:59] <__DEFC0N__> bancik: have you tried GRUB2
[11:59] <__DEFC0N__> ß
[12:13] <zteam> Hi!
[12:13] <Troubardour> Hi, can you help me determine why upstart starts, but systemd completely freezes at the login screen?
[12:13] <JedStar> howdy all
[12:14] <ratrace> Troubardour: upstart and systemd are mutually exclusive. what are you talking about?
[12:14] <zteam> Is there any good and free alternative to Dreamweaver which provides WYSWYG under Ubuntu, or is DreamWeaver under Wine the way to go?
[12:15] <zteam> WYSIWYG *
[12:15] <Troubardour> ratrace: I can choose at the grubmenu.
[12:15] <netek> zteam there used to be an app called nvu
[12:16] <netek> its a bit old but you can update the classes
[12:16] <ratrace> Troubardour: I don't know what you can choose or what you did there, but the two init systems are so much mutually exclusive the userland and the rest of the OS cannot exist for both.
[12:16] <Troubardour> When I choose an kernel (upstart) it will run. When default (systemd) it won't
[12:17] <Troubardour> 15.10
[12:17] <ratrace> 15.10 is still alpha
[12:17] <zteam> netek, yeah, I know about it :-) I did try Kompozer (which is a improved fork of nvu)but unfournetly it was very unstable
[12:18] <netek> zteam ok, I dont use WYSIWYG myself but remember coming across nvu a few years ago so was first thing that came to mind
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> zteam  there's also Bluegriffon, but it's very basic
[12:19] <ratrace> Troubardour: you have something severely broken there. Ubuntu switched to systemd with 15.04. It's not going back to upstart in 15.10. You cannot have both. If booting with upstart works but with systemd doesn't, it probably means your userland is for upstart and you're trying the systemd init, which cannot be.
[12:19] <netek> zteam I think there is another called amoya or amaya, cannot remember the name exactly but think its the official w3c wysiwyg
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> zteam  depending on your needs, you can consider using Dreamweaver with wine or in a windows vm
[12:19] <Troubardour> ratrace: thank you, that sounds plausible.
[12:20] <ioria> !ubuntu+1  | Troubardour
[12:20] <ratrace> Troubardour: so I'm guessing you upgraded from pre-15.04 and something broke and left upstart in it  (pun not intended :) )
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> zteam  what netek says ... http://www.w3.org/Amaya/screenshots/Overview.html
[12:21] <Troubardour> I upgraded for some sound related issue, I will check.
[12:22] <Troubardour> TY 2, iora and ubottu
[12:22] <netek> MonkeyDust thats the one
[12:22] <netek> :)
[12:22] <ioria> Troubardour, you'r welcome
[12:23] <JedStar> I am currently running 14.04.3 LTS on a VPS which I own, and I was wondering execept for apt-get install build-essential libgnutls-dev gnutls-bin pkg-config
[12:23] <JedStar> is there anything else I need to install
[12:23] <zteam> netek, well I don't normally use WYSIWYG either, but my HTML skills is really outdated nowadays, and I don't really have the time to fiddle with HTML code anymore :-)
[12:23] <JedStar> to update everything
[12:24] <Ben64> JedStar: you don't need to install anything to update everything.... you just need to do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:24] <netek> zteam I use aptana myself, it has autocomplete for html, php, css etc :)
[12:24] <zteam> netek, Amaya looks usuable thought :-)
[12:24] <netek> zteam good
[12:25] <JedStar> thanks Ben64
[12:28] <zteam> MonkeyDust, netek thanks for your suggestion guys :-)
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> zteam  remember: if all else fails, join #ubuntu
[12:30] <XeonSquared> Sanity check, is http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/ 404ing for anyone else?
[12:30] <netek> zteam welcome :)
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> XeonSquared: we had au guys this morning with mirror issue sindeed
[12:30] <Norbin> guys, how do you make df list ntfs formatted devices only?
[12:31] <Norbin> df -t ntfs doesn't work
[12:31] <XeonSquared> Any idea what's going on with AARNet?
[12:31] <wjIrc> Help! Is it some way to ONLINE (like on cloud) build binary deb using github project link?
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> XeonSquared: didnt hear some news, but adding other sources might be temp fix?
[12:32] <XeonSquared> Yeah, using fallbacks now, just wondering why my favourite mirror is down is all
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> XeonSquared: im sure they will do whats possible to get it back up asap
[12:33] <ioria> df -T | grep ntfs ?
[12:33] <XeonSquared> Well, good to hear it's not just me, though it seems that they haven't said anything about it on their site.
[12:34] <rrp-guest_|12381> Hi, how do I boot to xterm in ubuntu 14.04, there was a key combinatin or something form login screen?
[12:34] <Norbin> ah
[12:34] <Norbin> then it's "fuseblk"
[12:35] <Norbin> not ntfs :O
[12:35] <Norbin> df -T lists my ntfs drives as fuseblk
[12:35] <Norbin> Ther short answer is that "fuseblk" is just how an ntfs partition is reported via the "mount" command, among others. The "fuse" part comes from FUSE (file system in userspace)
[12:36] <bazhang> !nox | rrp-guest_|12381
[12:37] <rrp-guest_|12381> ok..and from login screen?
[12:38] <ioria> rrp-guest_|12381, never tried ... maybe put some command in .profile to start a terminal full screen... only an idea
[12:38] <bazhang> control alt f1 rrp-guest_|12381
[12:39] <bazhang> control alt f7 to get back rrp-guest_|12381
[12:40] <rrp-guest_|12381> does not work.... I'll try reboot & shift..
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> or ctrl arrow left
[12:41] <mripguru> hey guys - got a bit of a weird issue if anyones here.
[12:41] <cfhowlett> !ask | mripguru
[12:42] <mripguru> I have a Dell 2950 III which was freshly installed w/ 12.04
[12:42] <mripguru> I can ping/access the server from the local LAN
[12:42] <mripguru> but not from the outside.
[12:42] <mripguru> (This box was working perfectly under CentOS)
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> mripguru  keep it one line, that's easier to read and repeat
[12:42] <cfhowlett> mripguru, this is ubuntu server?   #ubuntu-server
[12:43] <mripguru> sorry.
[12:43] <mripguru> cfhowlett:  yes it is
[12:43] <cfhowlett> !server | mripguru might be better asked in the server channel
[12:44] <rrp-guest_|12381> ok.. got login. .. next:
[12:46] <rrp-guest_|12381> I had an issues of compiz taking 80%cpu on locked mode. I could not find the button to disable it, so I used apt-get remove compiz. -> All buttons disappear from UI. Then I reinstall compiz. But there are no still buttons/ui after login. How I get back woking?
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> rrp-guest_|12381  in Unity? Unity is a compiz plugin
[12:47] <mripguru> cfhowlett:  I've asked in there as well now - but, would think that an issue like that would be present in desktop too :)
[12:47] <rrp-guest_|12381> so can I reinstall it somehow?
[12:49] <cfhowlett> mripguru, also:  #networking
[12:49] <tuxedo_> hello
[12:49] <tuxedo_> everyone here
[12:49] <mripguru> cfhowlett:  this is definitely an Ubuntu issue — this was all working just fine with the same settings, etc. on CentOS.
[12:50] <mripguru> so the networking portion is good.
[12:50] <cfhowlett> mripguru, right.  OK.  someone who knows more than I do will undoubtedly answer
[12:51] <mripguru> cfhowlett:  if I had to guess - something got broken in 12.04 causing networking not to start up properly
[12:52] <mripguru> (I read some things about that)
[12:52] <cfhowlett> mripguru, yep.  btw 12.04 is supported, but 14.04.3 is the newest LTS release ...
[12:52] <mripguru> cfhowlett: the apps that are slated for this box aren't :(
[12:52] <mripguru> they require 12.04
[12:52] <cfhowlett> oh, that must hurt :)
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  cynic
[12:53] <mripguru> MonkeyDust:  realist?
[12:53] <rrp-guest_|12381> Help: How do I get my ubuntu 14.04 working again: I can get term but buttons are not available in UI. I tried to remove, reinstall compiz
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> mripguru  even LTS eventually comes to an end... make sure you can use any given program in future releases
[12:54] <ioria> rrp-guest_|12381, http://askubuntu.com/questions/344090/i-removed-compiz-and-now-i-cant-login-to-ubuntu
[12:54] <rrp-guest_|12381> that common issue.. I'll try. THanks.
[12:56] <mripguru> MonkeyDust:  by the time that happens - it will be.
[12:57] <cfhowlett> rrp-guest_|12381, suggestion: sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop.  then, logout/login
[12:58] <Rou> I left 8 gb free of unallocated disk space installing windows 10
[12:59] <Rou> Will that be enough for lubuntu?
[12:59] <Rou> Dual boot
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Rou, should be
[12:59] <EriC^^> Rou: barely enough, it's like 6gb maybe
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Rou, but if you try to save movies, music, images ... you'll run out very quickly
[13:00] <cfhowlett> and if you don't clean up after updating ...
[13:00] <Rou> I'm using it for web development
[13:00] <Rou> And I have an SD card in there
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Rou, running at the bare, minimal edge seems ... inadvisable
[13:01] <rrp-guest_|12381> Thanks...but reinstall ubuntu-desktop does not help.
[13:01] <Rou> Well I sure wish I asked this before I started the windows 10 installation then
[13:01] <Rou> I hope I can allocate more space
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Rou, you could shrink the widows partition
[13:01] <cfhowlett> !gparted | Rou
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> Rou  how much space do you have in total?
[13:04] <Rou> 32 GB SSD
[13:04] <LakshithaLK> Hi everyone !!
[13:04] <Rou> 8GB SD
[13:04] <Rou> 1 TB external USB
[13:04] <Rou> 500 GB external usb
[13:05] <Rou> External USB I'm using on my computer ATM
[13:05] <cfhowlett> Rou, well if you point your /home to one of the external media you might be OK
[13:06] <LakshithaLK> Need some help regarding Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on an Lenovo G510. I cant access User Accounts through Unity-Control-Center !! Would be great if anyone has a workaround ??
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> LakshithaLK: you got an error starting user accounts?
[13:06] <Rou> I guess I'll just install Lubuntu for now
[13:06] <Rou> And shrink my windows partition if I need to later on
[13:07] <EriC^^> LakshithaLK: open a terminal and type unity-control-center user-accounts
[13:07] <Rou> Can I increase the Lubuntu partition afterwards?
[13:07] <Rou> After it's already formatted and installed?
[13:07] <EriC^^> LakshithaLK: if you want to try reinstalling the unity-control-center, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-control-center
[13:07] <LakshithaLK> Hi lotuspsychje..Not an error , It just starts opening multiple instances of Unity Control Centre..
[13:07] <cfhowlett> Rou, why would you need to?
[13:07] <Rou> In case I need to make it larger than 8 GB
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> Rou  with LVM or Btrfs, yes, but unfortunately i know only their basics
[13:08] <LakshithaLK> Hi EriC...I tried uninstalling and installing :-( But no luck..
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Rou, sanest option: partition sufficiently before install.  consider a separate /home
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !home
[13:09] <Rou> Well
[13:10] <Rou> I can't see myself needing to put too many things on the Ubuntu partition anyways
[13:10] <Rou> A few developer tools
[13:10] <LakshithaLK> Hi Eric..when I ran
[13:10] <LakshithaLK> "unity-control-center user-accounts"
[13:11] <Rou> And project folder I'll probably keep external anyways
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Rou, possibly another option:  windows + virtuabox + lubuntu
[13:11] <LakshithaLK> Hi Eric when I ran "unity-control-center user-accounts" the terminal gave the following error "libwayland-egl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Failed to load module: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity-control-center-1/panels/libuser-accounts.so Failed to register: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"
[13:11] <Rou> It's only a dual core
[13:12] <Rou> The reason I'm dual booting lubuntu is because it's lightweight
[13:13] <cfhowlett> Rou, true.  couldn't hurt to experiment though, right?
[13:13] <cecchini> alla prossima buon fine settimana. krabador grazie dell'aiuto carlino non ce ringrazialo per me ciauzzzzzz
[13:14] <BluesKaj> !it | cecchini
[13:14] <cecchini> sorry
[13:15] <mripguru> you'd think everyone would speak English….
[13:15] <cfhowlett> ?  ubuntu is international ...
[13:16] <mripguru> cfhowlett:  English is an International language ;)
[13:16] <BluesKaj> mripguru, not everyone realizes the chat's are language restricted
[13:17] <mripguru> BluesKaj:  indeed — and some just don't really care.
[13:22] <hardtail> Hey all, I recently installed Ubuntu 15 on my desktop. Originally I had sound, but after unplugging my speakers to then use my headset, it no longer works. The only sound I receive is the chime upon startup at the login screen.
[13:23] <rrp-guest_|12381> Still not solved: how I get my ubuntu UI back working... (http://askubuntu.com/questions/344090/i-removed-compiz-and-now-i-cant-login-to-ubuntu) does not work
[13:23] <rrp-guest_|12381> more ideas?
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> !sound | hardtail
[13:25] <lakshitha> Hi Guys , I'm running 14.04 LTS and have a problem when opening user accounts from unity control center...(It starts to continually open control center instances).
[13:26] <rafaelcenteio> hi, after kernel update, I cannot get internet via lan (eth0). Ifconfig can't find eth0. It only prints "lo" and "wlan0"
[13:26] <hardtail> lotuspsychje Ahh, thank you very much! Looks like it was not on the correct output.
[13:27] <lakshitha> Hi Guys , I'm running 14.04 LTS and have a problem when opening user accounts from unity control center...(It starts to continually open control center instances).
[13:31] <lakshitha> Hi Guys , I'm running 14.04 LTS and have a problem when opening user accounts from unity control center...(It starts to continually open control center instances). When I run "unity-control-center user-accounts
[13:31] <lakshitha> " the terminal output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/12467046/
[13:32] <rafaelcenteio> lakshitha: you have to wait.
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> lakshitha  wild idea, try sudo apt-get install unity-control-center --reinstall
[13:33] <yeats> rafaelcenteio: is there anything about eth0 in /var/log/syslog?
[13:33] <Tim_> Hi wondering if anyone could help
[13:34] <Nyt129X> Hi Everyone , I'm running 14.04 LTS and have a problem when opening user accounts from unity control center...(It starts to continually open control center instances). When I run "unity-control-center user-accounts the terminal output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/12467046/
[13:34] <yeats> Tim_: just ask and someone will answer if they know
[13:35] <rafaelcenteio> yeats: yes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12467096/
[13:35] <Tim_> After installing ubuntu its says it cant fund root device? Im sharing with xp
[13:35] <alejandro> Hi, where I find support for linuxmint in Spanish ?
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: SOUNDS LIKE THIS BUG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1289807
[13:36] <tuxedo_> you have to go to linuxmint channel
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> !mint | alejandro
[13:36] <kadiro> hello all, I tryed to connect with my wifi for two ssid with a exact passphrase but I can't connect ( try it for both linux and windows ) can any one help me to know what going on?
[13:37] <Nyt129X> lotuspsychje: Yeah...I came across that . Was wondering if there are any workarounds ??
[13:37] <alejandro> thanks  lotuspsychje
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Tim_, where are you in the boot process when that errors shows up?
[13:38] <kadiro> alejandro: there is no spanish for mint all language are supported in one channel
[13:38] <alejandro> ok thanks kadiro
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: one guy seems to have fixxed it at the end of that bug
[13:39] <kadiro> please help
[13:39] <Nyt129X> lotuspsychje: Seriousely ?? How did I missed that ?? Will read it all over again and get back..SOrry for the trouble :-)
[13:39] <Tim_> Start up pc, then hit ubuntu it starts up saying finalising installation and then thing thing pops up says cannot find roor file system
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: try the #35 fix
[13:40] <Tim_> Fisrt time doing this so.. yeah lol
[13:41] <Nyt129X> lotuspsychje: AWESOME !! It fixed :-D  Thanks a million for both of you... (Original poster and YOU !!)
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Nyt129X
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  whatever you did (havent followed) ... +1
[13:41] <kadiro> my huawei b310s not work for now i'm sure the firmware is damaged, for that i connect from a wifi to my friend please help i have no more times
[13:42] <Nyt129X> lotuspsychje: Gotta love Linux & Ubuntu...I only recently made the switch from Windows and so far find it awesome !! Love the community feeling...
[13:42] <Nyt129X> ubottu: Thanks :-)
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: thats what were all here for mate :p
[13:42] <Nyt129X> lotuspsychje: :-D
[13:43]  * kadiro no one help
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> kadiro  or no one knows
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: ubuntu version, wifi chipset?
[13:43] <kadiro> lotuspsychje: wifi is atheros wn722n
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: some atheros cards need firmware fix
[13:44] <kadiro> ubuntu 14.04.3
[13:44] <rafaelcenteio> yeats: did you catch what I said?
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | kadiro
[13:44] <kadiro> it work for one ssid but the two other i tryed in windows with driver but not connect to them
[13:45] <Tim_> BluesKaj did you see what I said?
[13:45] <kadiro> I'm currently connected with it
[13:45] <yppo> where can i find md5hash of ubuntu server?
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: does it work on ubuntu?
[13:46] <kadiro> ok lotuspsychje can you guide me to fixe my huawei modem?
[13:46] <kadiro> yes lotuspsychje
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: ask in the ##windows channel if it doesnt work on windows
[13:47] <kadiro> lotuspsychje: in both windows and linux
[13:48] <kadiro> only two ssid can't connect all others work
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: wich security types these ssid have?
[13:48] <yppo> fond md5 hashes but on a none secura page...
[13:49] <yppo> I guess ill just go with them:)
[13:49] <kadiro> wpa-psk
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: check your syslog and dmesg for relevant errors or wifi authentication errors
[13:50] <BluesKaj> Tim_, is windows still installed on your pc ?
[13:50] <kadiro> syslog always say: timeout
[13:53] <kadiro> just a few important dmesg log: [13868.588052] wlan0: direct probe to 64:70:02:af:dc:1e (try 2/3)
[13:53] <kadiro> [13868.792045] wlan0: send auth to 64:70:02:af:dc:1e (try 3/3)
[13:53] <kadiro> [13868.900048] wlan0: authentication with 64:70:02:af:dc:1e timed out
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: pastebin sudo lshw -C network please
[13:56] <kadiro> i think this one my connexion can't see it http://paste.linuxmint.com/view/pqxj
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: your on mint?
[13:58] <kadiro> yes, my ubuntu is in other hard disk have some problem to repair it
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> !mint | kadiro only ubuntu support here
[13:59] <kadiro> ok
[13:59] <kadiro> I think it is a time my neighbor to disconnect
[13:59] <kadiro> thank you anyway
[14:00] <kadiro> I think i will hack someone to connect after ( no choice )
[14:03] <gioans> #ubuntu-chat
[14:04] <gioans> #ubuntu
[14:04] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu | gioans
[14:04] <gioans> hello
[14:04] <gioans> i am a new Gnome-ubuntu
[14:05] <SchrodingersScat> !support
[14:06] <southshields99> am i in the right place to get a registration code for the linux mint forum?
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> !mint | southshields99
[14:07] <southshields99> thank you :-)
[14:07] <gioans> hello
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> gioans: this channel is used for ubuntu support questions only
[14:09] <Mandroid> hey
[14:09] <pauljw> gioans: try #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion.
[14:09] <tminus36> Hi all. I updated a laptop yesterday, and when it asked about the network-manager configuration files I said no, just use the ones I already have. Now my system shows no interfaces and network-manager icon no longer appears. Is there a way I can get back to that diag and tell it yes? I have no internet connection on the system currently.
[14:10] <tminus36> .. or interfaces, just localhost. :D
[14:10] <tminus36> err loopback*
[14:13] <gioans> is there ubuntu ?
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> ioria: set discuss to favs mate :p
[14:15] <ioria> lotuspsychje, ok, tx
[14:20] <Norbin> How can I disable all the Alt+12345678xxxxx terminal shortcuts?
[14:20] <Norbin> THey interfere with my tmux configuration
[14:20] <teen_optimism> Hey guys. What is the most restrictive file permission one can give?
[14:20] <Norbin> I don't wish to disable shortcuts all together, only the Alt+xxx
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> teen_optimism  000 i guess
[14:22] <teen_optimism> I am trying to login via ssh with id_rsa.pub but chmod 775 seems to be to open. What should i pick?
[14:22] <teen_optimism> @MonkeyDust
[14:22] <Dumle29> Hmm booting ubuntu is very slow. It's installed on an SSD, but it just seems to hang at boot
[14:23] <tminus36> teen_optimism: 600 is usually a safe choice
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> teen_optimism  755 is common
[14:23] <teen_optimism> Thx guys will try it out
[14:23] <hntty> teen_optimism: sounds a lot like premature optimisation
[14:24] <tminus36> teen_optimism: or 644 if it says its too restricted
[14:24] <Norbin> anyone knows?
[14:25] <tminus36> hntty: How does setting proper security settings on ssh keys have anything to do with optimization? O_o
[14:25] <hntty> tminus36: teen_optimism sounds a lot like premature optimisation
[14:25] <teen_optimism> thx tminus will report back wheter it worked or not
[14:26] <tminus36> hntty: lol gotcha.. I need more caffeine. :)
[14:26]  * tminus36 is a bit slow atm
[14:27] <tminus36> teen_optimism: 644 will certainly work.
[14:29] <teen_optimism> tminus yes that worked, thx again :)
[14:30] <tminus36> teen_optimism: np
[14:36] <abdoul> comment creer son serveur dns
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> !fr | abdoul
[14:37] <abdoul> ok
[14:37] <ioria> !info bind9
[14:38] <imnotarobot1> what's the shortcut key to switch between tabs i firefox?
[14:39] <ioria> alt+tab
[14:39] <imnotarobot1> no i mean tabs within firefox
[14:39] <brothersome> Ctrl + tab
[14:39] <imnotarobot1> thanks brothersome
[14:39] <imnotarobot1> fuck you ioria
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> oO
[14:44] <pauljw> that was uncalled for...
[14:50] <Norbin> wtf?
[14:50] <Norbin> so freakin rude E:/
[14:52] <mripguru> ride the light? ;)
[14:58] <imnotarobot1> i used to have a boyfriend named "ubuntu" once
[14:58] <imnotarobot1> he would "play the bongos" on my ass
[14:58] <imnotarobot1> LEOLEOLEOLOLOLOLOLLEELELELLLELEEELELELELELELELEL
[14:58] <imnotarobot1> FAGS
[15:00] <nduy> night all
[15:01] <reeed> I have mounted a Windows drive as a cifs share. When the Windows machine is shutdown, and I inadvertently try to access that share, my filesystem browser hangs until the share is available again. any workarounds?
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> !ops | imnotarobot1 12.217.66.178
[15:21] <saldot__> banging my head getting ubuntu to run on my intel NUC. After installation i reboot but to a black screen with a cursor blinking in the left corner.
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: did you disabled fasboot + secureboot?
[15:22] <saldot__> lotuspsychje, yup
[15:22] <saldot__> i have it set to uefi though
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: you dualbooting?
[15:23] <saldot__> nope
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: legacy then
[15:23] <saldot__> can i change that on the fly or do i need to make some changes to grub?
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: some boxes also have deep intel setting somewhere to prevent new Os
[15:24] <saldot__> ok?
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: something must be blocking in bios, doublecheck every option :p
[15:25] <saldot__> but it does seem like it is booting.
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: is it booting, or have a _ cursor?
[15:25] <saldot__> it goes to black screen with blinking cursor but if i press ctrl-alt-del i see a ubuntu logo for a short while before it reboots
[15:25] <batboy> yo
[15:25] <saldot__> blinking text cursor that is.. like underscore _
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: wich ubuntu version?
[15:25] <saldot__> 15.04 server
[15:26] <batboy> kali linux for hake
[15:26] <cfhowlett> !kali | batboy
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: you running server on an intel NUC?
[15:27] <saldot__> yes
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: try the #ubuntu-server guys mate
[15:28] <saldot__> is there a big difference in the boot of desktop vs server?
[15:28] <cfhowlett> saldot__, yes.  one has a gui, one does not
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: well never had users with server on a NUC before, it might need fixing
[15:29] <saldot__> ok
[15:29] <saldot__> ill go ask the server guys
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: you could also test out 14.04 server for more stable experience?
[15:30] <saldot__> yes. but i think 15.04 is supposed to have some fixes for uefi buises
[15:30] <saldot__> *bioses
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: try out LTS, it might help
[15:32] <saldot__> lotuspsychje,  yeah, might as well. i'm stuck anyways
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: this looks like a clean tut: http://paislee.io/how-to-set-up-a-home-server-with-an-intel-nuc/
[15:35] <OerHeks> saldot__, this page might be a help: look for bios update first, might save some time .. http://paislee.io/how-to-set-up-a-home-server-with-an-intel-nuc/  written for 14.04 LTS
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: too late :p
[15:36] <saldot__> hehe.. i get twice the support. ;)
[15:36] <saldot__> i've updated the bios to latest version. was supposed to have some fixes for linux booting.
[15:36] <saldot__> did that before installing
[15:36] <saldot__> i'll test 14.04 and see what happens
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: good luck!
[15:37] <brothersome> NUC installation looks like the same as my tinycorelinux installation on my small computer
[15:38] <saldot__> well.. a nuc is a computer like any other i guess. but with a mobile/laptop cpu
[15:39] <brothersome> My server runs lighttpd and opensshd with only 52 MB ram, more simple than an ubuntu server
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | brothersome
[15:40]  * brothersome ah
[15:42] <brothersome> lotuspsychje, what about running the latest kernel? About the security of an older version?
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | brothersome
[15:44] <OerHeks> brothersome, is that a support question or starting a discussion?
[15:45] <brothersome> Oerheks, I think lotuspsychje does a kind of kidding, I do not like to shout that way
[15:46] <kanet> heloo
[15:46] <brothersome> My question is: Is the version of the kernel 14.04 the same as 15.04? What about the security?
[15:47] <nikos> Hi, I need some help with boot repair
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> brothersome  3.16.0-49-generic on my 14.04.3
[15:47] <OerHeks> No, the kernel is newer on 15,04, but 14.04 has all security patches too.
[15:47] <alex____2> hello world
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> !usn | brothersome check security exploits here
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> brothersome  what are you afraid of?
[15:50] <brothersome> I have 15.04 with 3.19.0.29 - I suppose that there are security patches since 3.16
[15:51] <JunkHunk> hi ubunters...
[15:51] <JunkHunk> I recently bought a new hdmi screen
[15:52] <brothersome> MonkeyDust, Just the ability to break in on a server, so now I know the answer - thanks
[15:53] <JunkHunk> it comes with tiny embedded speakers which use the hdmi connection...I just would like to use the desktop regular sound input together
[15:53] <aedend> is there documentation I can reference that will tell me what a specific port is used for? If I do "ss -tunlp" I would like to know more about the ports it displays
[15:53] <JunkHunk> so I can use all the speakers I have
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> brothersome: server security relies on more factors aswell, wich services rou running etc
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> aedend  in a terminal, type    less /etc/services
[15:54] <JunkHunk> pavucontrol does not seem to offer that chance
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> !security | brothersome for tighten security
[15:55] <JunkHunk> is there a way to get both sound outputs working at the same time
[15:55] <JunkHunk> ?
[15:55] <aedend> MonkeyDust, perfect, thank you
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> brothersome  http://hardenubuntu.com/hardening/
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> !sound | JunkHunk start here
[15:56] <JunkHunk> hmmm thanks but I have no trouble using sound...
[15:57] <JunkHunk> both channels are working
[15:57] <JunkHunk> I can use my desktop speakers using the analogic output...
[15:57] <Gramszu> Hallo everyone! I have ubuntu on gnome. My rhythmbox cannot collect any mp3 files. I have mp3 libary - in other audio programs it works.
[15:57] <JunkHunk> and my hdmi screen speakers with the hdmi connection selected...
[15:57] <JunkHunk> but I would like to use them both at the same time
[15:57] <JunkHunk> to use all the speakers I have
[15:58] <JunkHunk> I would need both channels working at the same time...is that possible in ubuntu?
[15:59] <JunkHunk> would I need an amplifier?
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> !info paprefs | JunkHunk try this maybe
[16:02] <JunkHunk> lotusflower: I already installed pavucontrol...and it is not offering the multichannel option...is that paprefs anyway better?
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> JunkHunk: test and find out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/78174/play-sound-through-two-or-more-outputs-devices
[16:03] <JunkHunk> gold
[16:03] <JunkHunk> thanks
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> didnt test myself, dont shoot me after
[16:03] <JunkHunk> lol
[16:04] <JunkHunk> I ll make fine perfume out of your leafs
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> and a necklace out of your teeth
[16:06] <saldot__> lotuspsychje, 14.04 did the trick. Works well now
[16:07] <saldot__> incase you were worried. ;)
[16:07] <OerHeks> :-)
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | OerHeks he's hungry :p
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> saldot__: im glad, cause i wouldnt have sleep tonight
[16:08] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje 's bed is made out of ssd's and clouds
[16:09] <EriC^^> :p
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:13] <JunkHunk> soee guess what? a guy found it at ubuntu irc...but I cannot exactly apply same solution in kubuntu...it is somehow different...
[16:14] <JunkHunk> http://askubuntu.com/questions/78174/play-sound-through-two-or-more-outputs-devices
[16:14] <JunkHunk> oops
[16:14] <JunkHunk> lol
[16:25] <aedend> in /etc/services I find "mdns" I've tried man mdns but no luck. Is there a resource locally on my machine I can reference for more information?
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> aedend  it's avahi related, is what i read on several pages
[16:28] <[n0mad]> yeah, seems avahi related or libnss
[16:28] <Laxu5> Hi there, I am having a bit of an issue using a livecd to mount an Intel software raid, when I run mdadm - - assemble --scan I get the error message only give one device per ARRAY line. I am assuming it is because the raid is named ALL BLUE, with the space, what syntax should I use to specify it as all one word in the made.conf please?
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> aedend  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToZeroconf
[16:30] <aedend> MonkeyDust, could this be running because I'm running Ubuntu as a guest on OSX. A little off-topic, I understand, just curious
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> aedend  not sure, didnt know it myself
[16:31] <OerHeks> nice, raid name with a space...
[16:32] <aedend> MonkeyDust, yeah, I didn't either but it reads to me as if its an implementation of Apple's Zeroconf architecture... Thanks again for your help
[16:32] <Laxu5> It was running on Windows so had no issue, but Intel fell over and came up with a disk missing error so am trying to run testdisk, but first I need to get the raid mounted
[16:38] <nikos> Hi, anyone who could help with boot repair,please?
[16:38] <EriC^^> nikos: what's wrong?
[16:38] <Laxu5> Did you have any ideas oerheks? Or just wanted to criticise?
[16:39] <Foogledork> Laxu5: use quotations in the config?
[16:39] <nikos> yesterday I took some help here to fix some broken libraries that prevented abiword to open
[16:39] <nikos> I followed instructions and it worked
[16:39] <nikos> after that I saw google earth didn't open,I uninstalled it and installed again and it was OK.
[16:39] <nikos> when I reboot after that, couldn't get into xubuntu.
[16:39] <nikos> blue screen with xubuntu logo loads normally but only for 3-4 seconds and then just black screen.I tried boot repair through live CD (all options) with no luck.
[16:39] <Laxu5> I did try that, but it appears to still not be mounting, tried single and double
[16:40] <Laxu5> I think the easiest solution is install windoze on another hard drive and run testdisk from that
[16:40] <Foogledork> Laxu5: The escape character before the space perhaps? ALL\ BLUE ?
[16:40] <Laxu5> Oh yeah good point didn't try that
[16:40] <EriC^^> nikos: what did you do to repair the broken libraries?
[16:42] <Laxu5> Hmm, no go, I think I will just whack window on a drive and in the future not use spaced raid names, thanks for the help foogledork
[16:42] <Foogledork> Laxu5: no prob, sorry it didn't work :/
[16:43] <Laxu5> All good 😀
[16:43] <nikos> I can't recall, k1l helped me with that,everything was working fine exept for google earth
[16:44] <Foogledork> nikos: When grub loads, do you have a "fallback" option or something like that?
[16:45] <nikos> no probably because I erase old elements after each update,because of space...
[16:45] <EriC^^> nikos: did you try an older kernel?
[16:47] <nikos> I'm afraid I have no older kernels,I can see the use now...
[16:47] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | try booting with this
[16:48] <nikos> grub is fine, blue screen with xubuntu logo loads normally but only for 3-4 seconds and then just black screen.
[16:49] <Foogledork> nikos: when the screen goes black, can you use ctrl+alt+F4 or another Fx key?
[16:49] <Foogledork> nikos: Does it bring up a command prompt
[16:50] <nikos> maybe this helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12456981/
[16:51] <nikos> I didn't try that,I sure ctrl+alt_del does nothing,Ihave to try
[16:52] <Foogledork> nikos: and which menu entry are you selecting?
[16:55] <nikos> which menu do you mean,from grub I pick ubuntu and then as I said xubuntu start loading but after seconds black screen.
[16:55] <threethirty> is anyone else having the 3.13.0-63-generic kernel panicing on reboot on 14.04?
[16:55] <Foogledork> nikos: ok, there is no menu entry for "Ubuntu(recovery mode)"?
[16:56] <nikos> aaa, yes of course,I tried the options there as well
[16:56] <Foogledork> nikos: gotcha
[16:57] <EriC^^> nikos: try booting with nomodeset
[16:57] <Foogledork> nikos: Im actually at work so I gottastep away for a min
[16:59] <Cipri> can i log in to a shell using a basic one line command?
[17:00] <nikos> Eric: how do I do this? nomodeset
[17:00] <Cipri> like ssh host username and password in one line
[17:00] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | read here
[17:03] <Kartagis> Cipri: ssh user@host but I'm not sure you can pass the password
[17:03] <Cipri> yeah
[17:03] <Cipri> i've made a expect script..
[17:04] <Cipri> but i thought there's other ways to
[17:05] <EriC^^> Cipri: why don't you use keys?
[17:06] <Cipri> don't know exactly how to create and use it
[17:07] <EriC^^> it's easy, you make a set of keys, and copy the public key to your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server
[17:07] <EriC^^> then you just connet
[17:07] <EriC^^> *connect
[17:08] <EriC^^> ssh-keygen makes keys
[17:09] <Cipri> so, 1st i make a key ?
[17:09] <Cipri> run ssh-keygen
[17:09] <Cipri> ?
[17:09] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:09] <Cipri> Enter file in which to save the key (/
[17:09] <Cipri> do i name anything ?
[17:09] <EriC^^> no leave the default
[17:10] <EriC^^> /home/user/...
[17:10] <Cipri> passphrase emtpy again ?
[17:10] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:10] <Cipri> Saving the key failed:
[17:10] <Cipri> i leaved all 3 field empty
[17:10] <Cipri> that's what i got
[17:10] <EriC^^> where did it say to save the key?
[17:10] <brainwash> !ssh
[17:11] <Cipri> var/www
[17:11] <EriC^^> Cipri: are you logged in as the user you want to ssh from?
[17:12] <Cipri> i'm logged in the shell
[17:12] <EriC^^> you create the keys at the client side
[17:12] <Cipri> so logout from the shell ?
[17:13] <EriC^^> which user are you going to use to ssh to? ( on the client not the server )
[17:13] <Cipri> done, created the key in /home/....
[17:13] <Cipri> what next ?
[17:13] <EriC^^> ok, type ssh-copy-id user@host
[17:14] <aedend> is it safe to remove cannaserver. This service starts after I boot up and it uses tcp:5680. From what get from the man page is that its some sort of Japanese/Korean conversion server?
[17:15] <Cipri> EriC^^: for now it's waiting
[17:16] <Cipri> not connecting..
[17:18] <Cipri> it seems too hard for me to understand, i'll keep my expect script for now :)
[17:18] <ioria> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[17:21] <liquidmetal> Anyone using task spooler here?
[17:21] <liquidmetal> Is there a way to configure task spooler using something like ~/.taskspool.conf instead of environment variables?
[17:22] <wafflejock> Cipri: basically you make a public/private key pair on the client machine then you copy the public key and put it into the ~/.ssh/authorized_key text file on the server then you can connect (the client will use it's private key by default if you don't change anything it gets saved to ~/.ssh/id_rsa and ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub on the client
[17:22] <wafflejock> (
[17:22] <wafflejock> )
[17:22] <wafflejock> oops sorry
[17:23] <AbdoTGM50> Can someone tell me why this happens everytime I do thr try or eveb install Ubuntu https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lvo5gwbrqo01ba/20150919_020121.jpg?dl=0
[17:24] <EriC^^> Cipri: try cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh <user>@<hostname> 'cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys'
[17:27] <ioria> AbdoTGM50, try to start the installer with nomodeset ---- http://askubuntu.com/questions/613969/acpi-ppc-probe-failed-starting-version-219-nvidia
[17:29] <AbdoTGM50> Alright will try once Im back home thanks ioria :)
[17:29] <ioria> AbdoTGM50, press F6
[17:29] <AbdoTGM50> F6 not e?
[17:29] <ioria> AbdoTGM50, you're welcome
[17:30] <ioria> AbdoTGM50, gui way, cli way ... as you wish
[17:30] <AbdoTGM50> Or was it tab I cant recall XD
[17:30] <ioria> AbdoTGM50, both
[17:32] <AbdoTGM50> Just a curiosity what does nomodeset do exactly?
[17:32] <ioria> AbdoTGM50, disable any graphic driver
[17:33] <ioria> AbdoTGM50, use the bios mode
[17:34] <AbdoTGM50> So the problem may be something with uefi?
[17:35] <ioria> AbdoTGM50, if you have a uefi mb, boot in uefi ... depends also if you are dual-boot or not ...
[17:35] <AbdoTGM50> Im not gonna dual boot
[17:36] <ioria> AbdoTGM50, so, if you have a efi mb, select the usb stick labeled as uefi
[17:37] <kadiro> hello
[17:38] <ioria> AbdoTGM50, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[17:46] <nivacc_> having two partitions one efi vfat and one dmcrypted for root. Is it ok that the grub cfg sets set root='cryptouuid/uuidoftheencryptedpartition' ?
[17:47] <srd995> Hey guys. When's 15.10 releasing?
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> srd995  next month
[17:48] <srd995> MonkeyDust: What are the major changes?
[17:48] <nivacc_> cause with the entries that grub produces, I cannot boot
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> srd995  wait for 16.04 LTS for major changes ... http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-15-10-alpha-2-releases-now-available-for-download-here-s-what-s-new-488160.shtml
[17:50] <srd995> MokeyDust: Will 16.04 have a changed interface?
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> srd995  no
[17:51] <srd995> MonkeyDust: and 16.04 will release next year, right?
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> srd995  of course, you can still choose a DE
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> srd995  16 = 2016, 04 = april
[17:52] <srd995> MonkeyDust: Alright...
[17:53] <srd995> In 14.04, I have to add blacklist i2c-hid in the blacklist.conf file for the touchpad to work... does anyone know why?
[17:54] <OerHeks> srd995, whay guide says that? or do you want to let us guess?
[17:55] <ioria> srd995, uname -r ? are you 3-13... something ?
[17:55] <srd995> OerHeks, I had read somewhere that to fix my problem I have to add 'blacklist i2c-hid' in blacklist.conf. The touchpad always starts working when I add that line to the file otherwise it doesn't work.
[17:56] <stacks88> i ran ssh user@hostname "cd directory/;. /home/user/.bashrc;name_of_function" but it said name_of_function: command not found.. basically ive got a function in the .bashrc that simply renames files in current directory.. How can i initialize the .bashrc through ssh hostname "command sections here"
[17:56] <srd995> 3.19.0-28-generic is the kernel version.
[17:56] <ioria> srd995  Dell XPS 13  ?
[17:57] <srd995> ioria: Dell 7348 13.
[17:57] <OerHeks> ioria is good at guessing
[17:57] <srd995> Is it because the touchscreen and touchpad seem to conflict each other perhaps?
[17:57] <ioria> OerHeks, ^O^
[17:58] <srd995> What is i2c-hid anyway?
[17:58] <ioria> kernel module
[17:59] <srd995> ioria: So what happens when I add blacklist i2c-hid to blacklist.conf?
[17:59] <ioria> srd995  it doesn't load
[18:00] <srd995> ioria: Is it bad that it doesn't? It does make the touchpad work though...
[18:00] <ioria> srd995  probably that module creayes a conflict
[18:00] <ioria> *creates
[18:00] <nivacc_> here is is my grub cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/12475563/ why the only entry entry that does work is  my manual added linux3-3.13.0-24-generic img ?
[18:01] <srd995> ioria: So maybe this problem will be solved in the next versions of Ubuntu?
[18:01] <ningu> is anyone here familiar with the Intel graphics for linux drivers? are they included in ubuntu and if not, when would it be useful to install them?
[18:01] <nivacc_> anyone ?
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> ningu  i have intel graphics, everything works out of the box
[18:02] <ioria> srd995  i'm sure of that... but it depends also the manufacturer  to release the specs .... anyway you are 14.04 with the 15.04 kernel ...
[18:02] <ningu> MonkeyDust: it's a question of what "works" means... yes, it works, but I've noticed a possible issue with plex home theater, there's a lot of flickering
[18:02] <ioria> LTS Enablement Stacks
[18:02] <[n0mad]> same here with the intel graphics, works just fine out of box. i did, on a previous install, go through installing the 3rd party drivers but didn't really notice any advantage to that
[18:03] <[n0mad]> i watch plex fine as well
[18:03] <srd995> ioria: I'm using 14.04.03
[18:03] <ningu> MonkeyDust: so I am wondering if it's worth installing the other drivers
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> ningu  i don't have that, so can't say
[18:03] <ningu> [n0mad]: plex media server? or plex home theater?
[18:03] <[n0mad]> i don't have the home theater, just media server running on a 10 yr old laptop
[18:03] <ioria> srd995  normally you should have 3.16.0-49-generic
[18:03] <ningu> [n0mad]: yeah, that's what I had until the old laptop died, haha
[18:04] <OerHeks> nivacc_, why did you add that manually? does grub-update not pick up that older kernel??
[18:04] <btcdude> hello
[18:04] <ningu> the home theater has a 10-foot ui over hdmi
[18:04] <ningu> it looks fine except for the flickering
[18:05] <ningu> which seems intermittent so I am not sure what the deal is
[18:05] <srd995> Why aren't there more choices for choosing the quality of a youtube video on ubuntu?
[18:05] <srd995> There's only 360p and 720p.
[18:05] <nivacc_> OerHeks I switched my hard drive from a non efi motherboard to an efi and needed to boot at the time. But since then I haven't been able to boot with any other option
[18:06] <nivacc_> I tried to reinstall grub and to grub-mkconfig
[18:06] <OerHeks> nivacc_, disable uefi > legacy ?
[18:07] <explosive> nivacc_: what's up?
[18:08] <nivacc_> OerHeks I haven't found any option's to boot without efi without the motherboard
[18:09] <nivacc_> explosive I 'm trying to set grub correectly, after I switched my hd in a motherboard that did not had efi to one that had (my new one https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/B85MG/)
[18:09] <nivacc_> OerHeks https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/B85MG/
[18:10] <explosive> nivacc_: you had legacy and now efi?
[18:10] <nivacc_> explosive yes
[18:11] <explosive> ok you need a fat32 partition
[18:11] <nivacc_> here is my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/12476724/
[18:12] <explosive> ok, you converted to gpt?
[18:12] <nivacc_> yes
[18:12] <OerHeks> explosive, can you help him, it is encrypted
[18:12] <nivacc_> I boot
[18:12] <explosive> OerHeks: i think so
[18:12] <nivacc_> Oerheks I think that it doesn't have anything with the encryption
[18:12] <explosive> nivacc_: did you install grub-efi-amd64-signed ?
[18:13] <ningu> well, I'm gonna try the intel drivers and see if that helps, I guess there's little risk.
[18:13] <nivacc_> yes I have the grub-efi-amd64
[18:13] <explosive> nivacc_: so you don't get grub right now?
[18:13] <nivacc_> I can boot to grub
[18:13] <nivacc_> here is my cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/12475563/
[18:14] <explosive> ok, so what's the problem?
[18:14] <nivacc_> the problem is that I in order to boot I had to add an entry manually linux3-3.13.0-24-generic img
[18:15] <nivacc_> explosive  in the line 130 of the grub cfg the uuid is from the encrypted root
[18:16] <nivacc_> I think it has to be the efi's partition uuid ?
[18:16] <nivacc_> Am I correct ?
[18:16] <Norbin> i installed ubuntu using MBR partition table, if i only run 1 OS, no plan to make any resizes etc, will it make any differences vs GPT?
[18:16] <explosive> no, once grub boots efi 's job is over
[18:16] <explosive> nivacc_: did you try sudo update-grub ?
[18:17] <nivacc_> explosive yes but it generates the same thing
[18:17] <explosive> nivacc_: what's /etc/default look like?
[18:17] <explosive> * /etc/default/grub
[18:19] <nivacc_> explosive here is my default grub http://paste.ubuntu.com/12477462/
[18:20] <explosive> nivacc_: i think you need enable crypto disk to 1 since you dont have a separate /boot that's not encrypted
[18:20] <explosive> it should give an error if you try to update-grub without it
[18:23] <nivacc_> I had 1 and I dod not see any relief
[18:23] <explosive> you need it to 1 right now
[18:24] <nivacc_> I mae it one
[18:24] <nivacc_> made
[18:24] <explosive> ok, update-grub
[18:25] <nivacc_> explosive here is the command output http://paste.ubuntu.com/12478113/
[18:25] <explosive> ah, you need to set it to y not 1
[18:25] <explosive> it's a bug
[18:26] <nivacc_> explosive here is the cfg after the update http://paste.ubuntu.com/12478219/
[18:31] <nivacc_> ok explosive I will set it to y
[18:31] <RLW980> Hi #Ubuntu?
[18:32] <aedend> RLW980, do you have a question about your Ubuntu install?
[18:32] <RLW980> aedend: I have a question, how do I burn a Windows.iso to a disk using Ubuntu 15.04?
[18:32] <explosive> nivacc_: so what happens when you boot right now?
[18:33] <RLW980> aedend: Shall I go to ##windows
[18:33] <explosive> RLW980: which windows? uefi?
[18:33] <RLW980> explosive: Umm....MS-DOS?
[18:33] <explosive> haha
[18:34] <RLW980> explosive: BIOS. I do not know
[18:34] <explosive> win7 win8 ?
[18:34] <RLW980> Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
[18:35] <nivacc_> explosive I am gonna reboot now, I am online from niva
[18:35] <RLW980> Can I do it using Ubuntu or not?
[18:36] <OerHeks> RLW980, use the standard dvd writing tool brasero
[18:36] <explosive> there's a tool for making it, don't remember the name though
[18:36] <explosive> RLW980: if it's a cd not a usb then what OerHeks said
[18:37] <niva> explosive many thanks for the y
[18:37] <explosive> you might need k3b if brasero doesn't take ufc or whatever it's called
[18:37] <explosive> niva: no problem
[18:37] <niva> but now I have to decrypt it twice
[18:38] <RLW980> 0erHeks: Thanks. That's the tool I'm looking for :D
[18:38] <niva> once in grub and once when it boots
[18:38] <RLW980> explosive: I'm burning to a DVD so yeah lol
[18:38] <ioria> niva take a look, could help http://www.pavelkogan.com/2014/05/23/luks-full-disk-encryption/
[18:38] <explosive> RLW980: oh ok, you said disk so i thought you wanted a usb
[18:38] <explosive> RLW980: all the good ;)
[18:39] <RLW980> explosive: No, no lol sorry my bad *laughs*
[18:39] <RLW980> explosive: All sound, do you use Ubuntu or Windows?
[18:39] <ioria> niva the FILES=/crypto_keyfile.bin part, in particular
[18:40] <explosive> RLW980: ubuntu
[18:41] <niva> ioria hmm I see keyfile
[18:41] <RLW980> explosive: Same here, but I'm going back to Windows
[18:42] <help4buntu> I just installed ubuntu 15.04 on my laptop and for some reason the trackpad and keyboard only work after I reboot
[18:42] <help4buntu> Ive installed all the proprietary drivers but so far I have never found a fix.  Any ideas?
[18:43] <explosive> RLW980: you could dualboot if you want windows sometimes
[18:43] <niva> thanks ioria
[18:43] <ioria> niva you'r welcome
[18:43]  * ki7rw wonders when quantum encryption will become available
[18:44] <explosive> RLW980: it's the best of both worlds
[18:44] <RLW980> explosive: Lol
[18:44] <RLW980> explosive: true :P
[18:44] <explosive> haha
[18:44] <RLW980> explosive: But I'm going back to Windows :D:D
[18:44] <explosive> RLW980: nooooooooooo
[18:45] <explosive> :P
[18:45] <RLW980> explosive: what :/
[18:46] <RLW980> explosive: I shall be back now, to talk to you I am off to install Windows
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> explosive  why go back?
[18:46] <RLW980> explosive: Oh it's W8 sorry & not Windows 7
[18:47] <RLW980> BRB
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> RLW980  ^^^
[18:52] <niva> explosive many thanks again, this had been a headache for some time now
[18:53] <explosive> niva: no problem
[18:54] <niva> explosive you don't happen to know how to resume from hibernation a swap file that resides in an encrypted root, do you ?
[18:58] <elosz> Hello, is there a way to ensure that only root user can chmod a file?
[18:58] <aroot> hi
[18:58] <jeffrey_f> elosz: What files?
[18:58] <elosz> jeffrey_f: in general any file..for e.g .txt file
[18:59] <explosive> niva: i can't remember what's to be done exactly, trying to find something on google
[19:00] <jeffrey_f> elosz: What about within their home folder?
[19:01] <elosz> jeffrey_f: even that should not be allowed. Only if you are root, you can chmod it
[19:01] <jeffrey_f> elosz: something like this??  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/protect-command-by-configuring-linux-unix-group-permissions/
[19:02] <SaldoT> quite new at this so.. where do you normally place scripts that you run?
[19:02] <marcus_> Hi, what is the best ubuntu image for me to download for a USB live linux ?
[19:03] <OerHeks> Guest37105 all iso's are hybride
[19:03] <lord4163> elosz: If the user doesn't have write permission on the file, it can't change the permissions?
[19:03] <jeffrey_f> SaldoT: what type of scripts
[19:03] <elosz> jeffrey_f: read that..that's not what I need. But first another question - if I a file is owned by me. Then I do chmod 000 filename. So nobody is able to r/w/x. Then how does sudo cat filename work?
[19:03] <Guest37105> Hey OerHeks, I just wanted to have a lightweight iso, you know
[19:03] <explosive> niva: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Swap_encryption#Using_a_swap_file
[19:04] <elosz> lord4163: yeah something along that line
[19:04] <Guest37105> I don´t need a lot of fancy stuff
[19:04] <SaldoT> jeffrey_f,  a script that updates the dns records. will place it in the crontab and execute it once a day
[19:04] <Guest37105> I tried using DSL, but for some reason, i can´t boot it via usb
[19:04] <lord4163> elosz: you want 0xx mask.
[19:04] <OerHeks> Guest37105 Lubuntu is the lightest, then xubuntu is pretty fast, but needs at least 512 ram, and the heavy one is kubuntu+Ubuntu
[19:05] <jeffrey_f> elosz: Normally, the user should be allowed to effect their own files.  Are you trying to prevent scripts users create?
[19:05] <SaldoT> jeffrey_f, /usr/sbin?
[19:05] <OerHeks> i would try Xubuntu
[19:05] <Guest37105> is Xubuntu available in the ubuntu page?
[19:05] <lord4163> elosz: or should the user be able to read the file?
[19:05] <Guest37105> nvmind
[19:05] <OerHeks> sure, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[19:05] <Guest37105> got xubuntu.org
[19:05] <Guest37105> oh, nice
[19:05] <elosz> lord4163: if I a file is owned by me. Then I do chmod 000 filename. So nobody is able to r/w/x. Then how does sudo cat filename work?
[19:06] <explosive> niva: it says not to use it with a keyfile apparently, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dm-crypt&oldid=255742#Suspend_to_disk_instructions_are_insecure
[19:06] <elosz> lord4163, jeffrey_f : I want only root user to open /chmod/read the file. Nobody els
[19:06] <elosz> else*
[19:07] <lord4163> elosz: Then chmod 000 $file
[19:07] <elosz> lord4163: still sudo cat 000 $file works.How?!
[19:07] <jeffrey_f> SaldoT: Not there.  You can create a folder off of root.  Apply proper permissions to the folder for the user running the cron job.  Just don't forget to back that folder up/take it with you if you need to reload or move to a new box/VM
[19:07] <explosive> elosz: sudo gives root privileges
[19:07] <lord4163> elosz: Because sudo will give root permissions indeed
[19:08] <SaldoT> jeffrey_f, right, thanks
[19:08] <elosz> so 000 permissions are only for me, as the user/owner of that file
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> elosz  what are you trying to achieve
[19:08] <jeffrey_f> elosz: Change permission on chmod, beware of possible strange behavior though.....
[19:09] <lord4163> elosz: 0 for user - 0 for group - and 0 for everyone else - except root
[19:09] <elosz> okay i guess I am unable to explain clearly. So I want my code to create a file such that only a root user can access/read/write/open/chmod that file.Nobody else
[19:09] <lord4163> elosz: root will always have permission to do anything.
[19:09] <elosz> I see
[19:10] <explosive> elosz: you don't even want you to be able to change it?
[19:10] <ioria> if your users have 'sudo' capability ...
[19:10] <lord4163> elosz: by setting the mask to 000 you achieved what you want?
[19:10] <niva> explosive thanks for the article
[19:10] <elosz> also, even after I do chmod 000 $file. Doing chmod 700 $ file also worked. That shouldn't be allowed
[19:10] <explosive> elosz: you can chown it to root and set it to 700
[19:10] <elosz> explosive: yeah not to change it too
[19:10] <explosive> niva: no problemo
[19:11] <explosive> elosz: sudo chown root: /path/to/file
[19:11] <elosz> lord4163: chmod 000 works partially since later chmod 700 $file also works without using sudo
[19:11] <lord4163> elosz: hmmm
[19:11] <explosive> then sudo chmod 700 /path/to/file
[19:11] <elosz> okay gotcha
[19:11] <explosive> elosz: what's the bigger picture of what you're trying to do?
[19:12] <niva> explosive I understand it correctly that article applies to http://www.pavelkogan.com/2014/05/23/luks-full-disk-encryption/
[19:13] <elosz> explosive: preventing user from accessing/modifying a sensitive file
[19:13] <ioria> you can encrypt that file
[19:13] <explosive> elosz: you can still delete it as your user though if it's in your home dir
[19:13] <elosz> okay cool
[19:13] <ioria> !info gpg
[19:14] <ioria> !info gpg trusty
[19:14] <elosz> thanks explosive: lord4163 jeffrey_f MonkeyDust !
[19:14] <explosive> yeah you can use gpg -c /path/to/file to encrypt and gpg -d /path/to/file -o /path/to/decryptedfile
[19:16] <ioria> it's installed by default
[19:16] <lord4163> elosz: If it is sensitive data, you should encrypt as explosive says. The file can still be read if an attacker boots from a live cd or takes the hard drive.
[19:16] <jeffrey_f> elosz: NP
[19:16] <elosz> good point lord4163
[19:17] <niva> explosive when I asked about resume from swap file I meant hibernation, not suspension
[19:18] <explosive> niva: that is for hibernation
[19:18] <ioria> !info gnupg
[19:18] <lord4163> elosz: If it is a single file, I'd use GPG else encfs is my preferred solution.
[19:18] <niva> cause it says Suspend to Disk
[19:19] <elosz> will take a look at them lord4163 :)
[19:20] <elosz> btw what's use of chmod 000 or chmod 700 $sensitiveFile once the file is owned by root?
[19:21] <elosz> since the permissions can't be changed by anyone except root and once you've root privilege, you can read/write it
[19:21] <ioria> elosz .... with sudo ...
[19:22] <explosive> elosz: just cause it's owned by root if you dont chmod it it can still be ready
[19:22] <explosive> *read
[19:22] <jeffrey_f> elosz: If you have sensitive files, place it in a folder secured by group permissions.  Add a group "SecureFilesOnly", add yourself to the group.  Now InsensitiveUser (lolz) can no longer access it.
[19:22] <ioria> elosz  you should create a chroot jail, or a custom shell, or  container ....  big stuff
[19:23] <elosz> ioria: i need only small stuff as of now:P
[19:23] <elosz> explosive: read only by root right?
[19:23] <niva> explosive the article assumes a swap partition or a swap file inside an luks encrypted non lvm partition ?
[19:23] <ioria> elosz  so, encrypt and no one can read it
[19:23] <elosz> jeffrey_f: sounds like a tough task in C job
[19:24] <ioria> elosz  wait.... what kind of file ? :-)
[19:24] <elosz> ioria: text file
[19:24] <ioria> ok
[19:26] <bozsikarmand> good evening
[19:27] <SchrodingersScat> hello
[19:30] <tehaxhq> hello everybofy
[19:31] <georgia> Hi!
[19:31] <Creyon> hello, can anyone help me? I accidentally done something
[19:32] <georgia> what did you do?
[19:32] <Creyon> i mounted a folder over the top of my /home/<username> folder :[
[19:32] <Creyon> how do i unmount it so i can see my /home/<username> folder again
[19:32] <georgia> Ii don't know, i'm just on dual boot
[19:33] <SchrodingersScat> fusermount -u /home/username ??
[19:33] <niva> Creyon use df to find what you mounted in your home
[19:34] <georgia> https://ask.ubuntu.com
[19:34] <Creyon> /media/daniel/Local Disk/Comics 2930134008 2408402120 521731888  83% /home/daniel
[19:34] <Creyon> /dev/sdc1                       1953512444 1882492740  71019704  97% /media/daniel/3CA299D0A2998F50
[19:34] <Creyon> how would i resolve that?
[19:34] <Creyon> fusermount: failed to unmount /home/daniel: Device or resource busy
[19:35] <niva> sudo umount  "/media/daniel/Local Disk/Comics"
[19:35] <Volund> okay so lessee
[19:36] <Creyon> umount: /home/daniel: device is busy.
[19:36] <Creyon>         (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[19:36] <Creyon>          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[19:36] <niva> did you tried the previous command ?
[19:36] <niva> hmm
[19:37] <Creyon> yeh heh..
[19:37] <jeffrey_f> Creyon: close anyting that MAY have a lock on a file or folder........
[19:37] <niva> Creyon do you have any opened files ?
[19:37] <niva> also if you used cd to enter a dir
[19:38] <niva> go back
[19:38] <Creyon> nope, nothing..
[19:38] <rayneayami> hi yall
[19:38] <Creyon> VERY strange...
[19:38] <niva> do you have any open terminals, that have open the directory you try to unmount ?
[19:39] <Creyon> nope, should i try a reboot?
[19:39] <niva> if you try umount -l ?
[19:39] <RandomStrangler> Hello. I'm trying to write a bash-script that sets up the system for me. This includes installing some packages and doing more tasks. Somehow, when packages are installed the following commands are not executed anymore, but instead printed. Can anyone explain why this is happening? Script: http://pastebin.com/x6B5TB89
[19:39] <rayneayami> i'm having an issue with kvm, and not sure if im in the right spot
[19:41] <Volund> lessee if I get that error when copying via SMB share.
[19:41] <niva> explosive then you resume from hibernation the system should ask you for decryption password and therefore it shouldn't be stored anywhere
[19:42] <Creyon> reboot fixed it guys, didnt save it in fstab haha
[19:42] <Creyon> thanks for your help it's appreciated
[19:43] <niva> explosive They cause the swap encryption key to be picked up by mkinitcpio and stored on the unencrypted /boot partition. In my setup I have swapfile that resides in an encrypted /
[19:43] <niva> don't mention it
[19:43] <rayneayami> can i get some help with kvm, i can get the qemu window to boot and show, but installation and execution of the program doesn't occur
[19:43] <explosive> niva: yeah, i dunno about the key thing
[19:43] <niva> thanks
[19:43] <niva> explosive I am re worried about evil maid attacks
[19:44] <niva> :P
[19:47] <niva> explosive the 3.13.0-63 kernel you thing "latest" for the ubuntu 14.0.4.03
[19:47] <niva> ?
[19:48] <seanthegeek> I’m having trouble getting Windows 7 64 bit to install on KVM. Can anyone help? Details at https://askubuntu.com/questions/673957/how-do-you-install-the-virtio-hdd-drivers-for-kvm-on-windows-7
[19:50] <bozsikarmand> bck
[19:52] <RandomStrangler> Okay, apparently my script does not wait until apt-get install finished. :-\
[20:09] <Volund> So hrm, I need a name for my project...
[20:10] <derek01> Having a problem video files in VLC, whenever I open any file, the system completely locks up to the point of having to switch to a terminal and close it manually. I know the video file is good, because the totem opens it fine
[20:10] <Geo> does anyone know of a reason fdisk can create a new partition (sdn1, in this case) and have it viewable when you view fdisk -l, but have it not show up in ls /dev/sd* ?
[20:12] <etyb> hello there!
[20:12] <explosive> Geo: did you restart?
[20:12] <TJ-> Geo: you need to tell the kernel about it; partprobe or kpartx
[20:12] <Geo> no... I shouldn't have to though?
[20:13] <Geo> ok
[20:13] <Geo> partprove didnt do anything, are there any special flags/commands i need?
[20:14]  * Aravind_ slaps iKsH around a bit with a large fishbot
[20:14] <TJ-> Geo: "sudo partprobe /dev/sdn" then check with "cat /proc/partitions"
[20:14] <human> hey
[20:14] <Meerkat> My seahorse doesn't have any keyservers stored in it. "pool.sks-keyservers.net" is suppose to be available by default. How can I restore it? I tried reinstalling seahorse and gnupg but it didn't change anything.
[20:15] <Geo> even specifying partprobe /dev/sdn didnt work
[20:15] <InfIV> ,-,
[20:15] <InfIV> So
[20:15] <InfIV> I downloaded some things
[20:15] <InfIV> to use X2GO with my dedi
[20:15] <InfIV> (My dedi is ubuntu 14.04)
[20:15] <InfIV> but
[20:15] <InfIV> the application Terminal is nt there ,-,
[20:16] <explosive> Geo: try sudo cfdisk /dev/sdn then press write
[20:16] <wileee> InfIV, lay off the enter, all in one explanation.
[20:16] <TJ-> Geo: Are you sure the partition actually changed? Was there a sdn1 before the partitioning action?
[20:16] <kerbalnaut> q
[20:16] <Geo> It is a new disk
[20:16] <kerbalnaut> quit
[20:16] <kerbalnaut> ls
[20:16] <InfIV> wileee: sorry it's a habbit ,-,
[20:17] <Geo> so I've been futzing with it trying to get it to work, but it has yet to show up in /dev/
[20:17] <wileee> InfIV, a bad one at that, especially here is all. ;)
[20:17] <Geo> TJ-, but again, fdisk -l lists it... it just doesn't appear in /dev
[20:18] <TJ-> Geo: firstly, does it show up in "/proc/partitions" - if so, then udevd isn't picking up on the change event
[20:19] <eupharis> q
[20:19] <wileee> InfIV, Is your X2GO from a ppa?
[20:19] <Geo> proc/partitions is empty
[20:19] <Geo> */proc
[20:20] <InfIV> wileee: nope
[20:21] <wileee> InfIV, All the ubuntu installs I see, are launchpad ppa associated is all. Your explanation is a little vague is all, be as exact as possible.
[20:22] <InfIV> wileee: It worked with my personal dedi, (It was Xubuntu tho)
[20:22] <TJ-> Geo: sounds like the tool didn't change the disk correctly. Are you sure the disk isn't seen as  GPT rather than MBR?
[20:23] <wileee> InfIV, same basic install?, desktops are easy to add remove.
[20:23] <Geo> it is
[20:23] <Geo> (GPT)
[20:23] <wileee> InfIV, I have no idea what dedi is, dedicated?
[20:23] <Geo> I'm not familiar with what that means, honestly, its for a RAID
[20:24] <Geo> i just copied the partition table of an existing disk
[20:24] <Geo> the type is 'ee', which is GPT
[20:24] <InfIV> wileee: Dedicated Server
[20:24] <wileee> cool thanks
[20:25] <Thelonious> Anyone know why I can't change my screen brightness in Ubuntu?
[20:26] <wileee> InfIV, Not something I can follow through to fix I think, name your sources and what the download you mention, and detail it more for the channel, there are relative helpers here.
[20:26] <InfIV> wileee: Ah got it working, it's not called Terminal
[20:26] <InfIV> >.<
[20:26] <wileee> cool
[20:26] <InfIV> wileee: It's called XTerm ,-,
[20:26] <wileee> heh, good job. ;)
[20:27] <Geo> TJ-, any more wisdom nuggets?
[20:28] <wileee> done as yoda ;)
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> Xterm called it is, hrmmm
[20:29] <TJ-> Geo: if the drive is GPT and you used fdisk, the MBR is not used by the kernel, so you need to use a GPT editor. The MBR is a fake hybrid/protective for tools that don't understand GPT
[20:29] <Geo> yes, changing it to fd (raid) made it appear
[20:29] <Geo> ok
[20:29] <Geo> so if all these other disks are GPT, I shouldn't mix/match in the RAID i would assume
[20:30] <Geo> and what tool *should* I use to partition then?
[20:30] <Volund> notepadqq!
[20:31] <TJ-> Geo: for manual editing the 'gdisk' range of tools (the equivalents of 'fdisk') but for GPT
[20:31] <Geo> cool, thanks
[20:32] <Geo> can I mix/match gpt and mbr?
[20:32] <Geo> ...in a raid, or is that asking for trouble
[20:32] <mripguru> Geo: generally speaking - if you have to ask - it's probably a bad idea.
[20:32] <mripguru> (way I look at it anyways)
[20:40] <TJ-> Geo: GPT tools can create a protective or hybrid MBR, so you can map up to 3 GPT partitions into an MBR
[20:41] <Geo> ok
[20:41] <Geo> so does mixing them in a RAID matter?
[20:42] <TJ-> Geo: RAID has no interest in partitions. RAID just wants to see a block bunch of raw block devices
[20:42] <Geo> (by the way, just read up on GPT some, thanks. that meets my new thing learned for the day)
[20:42] <Geo> ok
[20:43] <Geo> thanks
[20:48] <mripguru> what the heck is going on here today - it's been Splitsville all day :(
[21:02] <alex____2> hello
[21:02] <D-C-L-X-V-I> hey
[21:03] <alex____2> i am running i3 on top of xfce in ubuntu, could my setup get any more frankenstein
[21:07] <btorch> is this normal ? a ubuntu minimal is now over 1G ?
[21:08] <yeats> btorch: where are you seeing that?
[21:08] <yeats> !mini
[21:08] <yeats> should be about 40MB
[21:08] <alex____2> considering the LTS is currently 1gb as it is
[21:09] <btorch> ok yeah kickstart is installing 14.04 LTS
[21:09] <btorch> with ubuntu-minimal among other things I guess
[21:16] <sdada> hey what does a person from outside of the US needs to do to get a drivers license in the state of CT? Assuming he already has a driver's license from outside of the country
[21:17] <auronandace> sdada: that has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[21:18] <sdada> auronandace: not true, it's really relevant
[21:21] <TJ-> !ot | sdada
[21:22] <austin6598> how do i fix this?: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/gToyV6sF/
[21:23] <D-C-L-X-V-I> exit
[21:23] <D-C-L-X-V-I> exit
[21:24] <TJ-> austin6598: fix the apt sources.list entry for ports
[21:24] <austin6598> TJ-> what exactly am i supposed to do?
[21:26] <TJ-> austin6598: locate the entry(ies) for the ports repo and correct the URL. Currently it appears it has too many components in the path
[21:26] <austin6598> TJ-> in synaptic?
[21:26] <TJ-> austin6598: No, in the files  "/etc/apt/sources.list" or "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[21:27] <austin6598> TJ-> can i download the original files somewhere?
[21:27] <TJ-> austin6598: find the offending file(s) first with "grep ports /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}"
[21:28] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HOHJ0QYY/
[21:31] <austin6598> tj-?
[21:33] <TJ-> austin6598: Looks like the grep expression wasn't complete. Try "grep ports /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[21:33] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/6ZbfZ4Hn/
[21:34] <TJ-> austin6598: you missed the asterix off the end, like I did in the first command! :D
[21:34] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mE1klAIb/
[21:34] <austin6598> so i need to add the pipelight repos?
[21:36] <quants> hi guys, what is the best VPN provider i can use?  Free is preferable
[21:37] <TJ-> austin6598: "deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/vivid-proposed vivid main" should be "deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ vivid main" ... and you may need a second line with "vivid" replaced by "vivid-proposed" if you want the Proposed component too
[21:37] <OerHeks> not an ubuntu support question, quants.. didn't you ask before?
[21:37] <orfeo1> Hello folks!
[21:37] <austin6598> whats the proposed?
[21:37] <dennis_> hello
[21:37] <quants> OerHeks ive never asked before, what channel??
[21:38] <TJ-> austin6598: packages published for testing but not yet promoted to the main repo
[21:38] <austin6598> i dont want that so how do i remove that?
[21:39] <TJ-> austin6598: remove the entire ports entries? delete the files, or rename them to something other than ".list"
[21:39] <austin6598> TJ-> i just dont want the proposed one
[21:39] <misternumberone> i'm on ubuntu MATE and every time I log in a small terminal appears in the upper left just under the applications tab. I can run commands in it and all, but it has no border and can't be moved, and it doesn't seem to render properly when windows are moved over/under it. What package is this and how can I configure it to not appear on login?
[21:41] <TJ-> austin6598: Ok, so fix the line as I suggested but don't include any additional lines for -proposed
[21:41] <austin6598> TJ-> im confused as to what im specifically supposed to do to resolve this issue
[21:42] <TJ-> austin6598: "deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/vivid-proposed vivid main" should be "deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ vivid main"
[21:42] <austin6598> ok so how do i change it?
[21:43] <quants> i need to hide my ip address by getting a VPN, what channel do i need for this help??
[21:43] <misternumberone> i just played around with it some more and it appears in the form of a black borderless box just a few lines tall that has a white terminal emulator prompt within it. I can focus on it like a window to type in it but I don't know how to get rid of it and it's always on top of any window I move to it and my desktop.
[21:43] <TJ-> austin6598: Edit the entry via the Software Sources section of the Software Center, or edit the file manually using a text editor
[21:44] <austin6598> im actually using kubuntu so im going to try the kubuntu derivative of what you said
[21:44] <OerHeks> i would try trough the gui, good luck reversing proposed :-)
[21:45] <TJ-> austin6598: me too :)
[21:46] <austin6598> :D
[21:47] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1xgQ2gHl/
[21:48] <TJ-> austin6598: The PC's host architecture is amd64, so why do you even *have* a ports repo entry? Ports are for other non-standard architutures such as ARM
[21:49] <austin6598> im not sure i had some issues upgrading to the newest kde and then i just got more issues trying to fix it
[21:50] <TJ-> austin6598: Get rid of the files for ports entirely; they are not required and actively break the package manager
[21:50] <austin6598> ok where are those files tj-
[21:51] <TJ-> austin6598: the filenames were in that grep result you gave earlier that listed the 'ports' entry - pipelight ... something?
[21:51] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Pj9evkX0/
[21:52] <austin6598> so delete "/etc/apt/sources.list.d" ?
[21:52] <TJ-> austin6598: "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pipelight-ubuntu-stable-vivid.list*"
[21:53] <austin6598> ok i did it
[21:53] <TJ-> austin6598: that should fix the 404 errors
[21:54] <austin6598> yep it did. but will i still get updates for pipelight?
[21:55] <TJ-> austin6598: that pipelight repo entry would never work so it couldn't have provided a source for whatever pipelight is
[21:56] <austin6598> oh ok
[21:57] <austin6598> is this normal? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GEAhkthd/
[21:57] <TJ-> austin6598: when you type incorrect commands, yes
[21:58] <austin6598> whats the command to update?
[21:58] <floyd>  connect
[21:58] <selsper> tf2pickup.net
[21:59] <TJ-> austin6598: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[21:59] <[n0mad]> austin6598: sudo apt-get update; if you are wanting to upgrade currently installed packages, sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:00] <austin6598> ok so no updates
[22:00] <austin6598> and how do i run a distribution upgrade correctly?
[22:01] <TJ-> austin6598: "sudo apt full-upgrade" or  "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[22:01] <Meerkat> My investigation regarding the missing "pool.sks-keyservers.net" in seahorse has gotten me so far that I found a file that contains this string and that file is installed by gnome-keyring. I tried reinstalling gnome-keyring but that didn't change anything. I'm kinda lost now.
[22:02] <TJ-> Meerkat: which file is the string found in?
[22:02] <Meerkat> TJ-, "/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.crypto.pgp.gschema.xml"
[22:03] <austin6598> ok thanks for the help it looks all good
[22:03] <TJ-> Meerkat: and did that file re-appear after you reinstalled gnome-keyring? Or has the file always been there but Seahorse doesn't seem to use the value from it?
[22:03] <Meerkat> TJ-, the latter.
[22:03] <TJ-> Meerkat: which Ubunty release is it?
[22:04] <Meerkat> A fresh install of xubuntu has a working seahorse config. I run 14.04.
[22:04] <TJ-> Meerkat: so you're using Xubuntu 14.04 where Seahorse has the problem?
[22:05] <Meerkat> tj- yup
[22:05] <TJ-> Meerkat: have you tried a Guest log-in (if that's possible on Xubuntu) or a fresh user profile, to determine whether the issue is user-config specific, or system-wide?
[22:06] <Meerkat> TJ-, oh, nice idea. I have not tried that. Can I login as another user without losing my current session?
[22:06] <TJ-> Meerkat: I'm not sure with XFCE. I know Unity and KDE allow it
[22:12] <heet> hey pees
[22:12] <heet> peeps
[22:12] <Meerkat> TJ-, as I was looking for an answer xfce tossed me out. =) I logged in as guest and seahorse had its settings as expected. So my problem is somewhere in my home dir.
[22:12] <heet> need some help with ubuntu mate on Rpi2
[22:13] <TJ-> Meerkat: OK, I'd focus on seahorse config file... maybe ~/.seahorse or ~/.config/seahorse or similar?
[22:14] <heet> anyone here running ubuntu mate on their rpi2?
[22:14] <DucklingNo5> Hi, does anyone know why Ubuntu automatically turns wlan0 back on after "ifconfig wlan0 down"?
[22:15] <TJ-> DucklingNo5: maybe Network Manager is responsible for managing it, not the ifupdown tools
[22:16] <heet> guess not
[22:16] <aleksey> всем привет
[22:17] <bprompt> !ru | aleksey
[22:17] <DucklingNo5> Hmm, this never happened before :P Network-Manager definitely CAN manage it, but why the hell would it turn it back on again?
[22:17] <heet> cykablood
[22:18] <TJ-> DucklingNo5: maybe that interface is set to auto-connect.
[22:18] <DucklingNo5> I'll look :) thanks
[22:18] <TJ-> DucklingNo5: if you don't want NM to manage an interface, an entry in "/etc/network/interfaces" for the interface will indicate to NM that you wish to manage the I/F manually
[22:20] <DucklingNo5> Thanks :)
[22:20] <aleksey> !RU
[22:21] <heet> ]
[22:32] <LightweightOS> How do I uninstall programs on other users of my machine, assuming  am and administrator and the other accounts are standard users.
[22:35] <RileyTL> Ubuntu 14.04 server, trying to make some config changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config and then restart just the SSH server using `sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart` but it doesn't take. The only time that changes actually kick in is if I reboot the actual machine. I've also tried `sudo service ssh restart` and that doesn't do it. Anybody had success with this? I tried on a virtualbox machine as well as an amazon aws instance. Neither worked as I 
[22:37] <asdf> hi guys.  i added the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora/ubuntu lucid main repo but apt-cache does not show firefox 40 in the list, i can only see ff 20 in the ilst.
[22:37] <asdf> what do i need to do to get apt to use the latest version of firefox from the ppa?
[22:38] <wileee> !10.04
[22:38] <asdf> please just answer the question if you know the answer
[22:38] <asdf> if you don't, don't try to help
[22:39] <asdf> nothing you posted is even remotely relavent to my question
[22:39] <wileee> asdf, lucid is end of life, not supported, upgrade.
[22:39] <asdf> dude, fuck off already
[22:40] <LightweightOS> Isn't there a way to upgrade ubuntu OS's without the need to back-up your files?
[22:40] <asdf> LightweightOS: depends on what you mean by backup your files
[22:40] <asdf> your personal home dir will be left alone
[22:40] <asdf> if you have config files you are worried about, those need to be backed up as they get overwritten
[22:41] <bprompt> LightweightOS:    it's better often times to be safe than sorry
[22:42] <bprompt> LightweightOS:    so... as far as backups, is better to "have them and no need them, than need them and not have them", but you could do a dist-upgrade and take your chances :)
[22:44] <RileyTL> about dist-upgrade, isn't that the command that the GUI updater runs? I've always had that question.
[22:44] <asdf> no
[22:44] <RileyTL> which is it?
[22:44] <asdf> ubuntu stopped using that years ago
[22:45] <RileyTL> For instance if I wanted to just shut the automatic gui popup thing (it annoys me terribly) and do it all manually, what command would I run?
[22:46] <asdf> that would work fine in debian
[22:46] <RileyTL> I tried doing research in the past, my buddy and I both actually. As far as I could tell it was dist-upgrade but that was unclear as well.
[22:46] <asdf> in ubuntu, because they really stopped using apt, it will cause problems with a bunch of packages
[22:46] <asdf> ubuntu has something like updated-distribution or something specialized that runs their own python script to handle the ugprades for you
[22:47] <asdf> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades
[22:47] <OerHeks> !dist-upgrade
[22:47] <asdf> there you go
[22:47] <OerHeks> nice factoid
[22:48] <wileee> RileyTL, software & updates  3rd tab set the updates as you like.
[22:51] <RileyTL> ahhhh sorry, actually I was referring to the regular updates (one of my computers reminds me about them daily). From what the bot said about it, that's what one would actually *want* to keep things just generally updated, or no?
[22:51] <RileyTL> But I wasn't talking about upgrading (say from 14.04 to 15.04 or whatever)
[22:51] <RileyTL> kinda took the conversation for a spin :P
[22:51] <asdf> right dist-upgrade is from moving from one version of the distro to another
[22:52] <asdf> i gave you the equivalent ubuntu version of that
[22:52] <RileyTL> aah ok. I'll read up on that then.
[22:52] <RileyTL> thanks
[22:52] <asdf> i don't know what ubuntu command line equivalent is for just updating packages though.
[22:52] <wileee> RileyTL, the rhetoric is keep updated.
[22:55] <derek01> So Ive finally narrowed the problem to my draging a file and stuff crashing issue, Its Xinerama, whenver its enabled, it crashes when its not, i can drag folders and files just fine
[22:56] <[n0mad]> RileyTL: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade will do the same thing as the gui updater I believe
[22:56] <[n0mad]> sometimes when that pops up i will run that via command line and it seems like it's always been the same
[22:59] <derek01> but without Xinerama, I cant use all 3 monitors.
[23:21] <samthewildone> I'm having a situation with 15.04 where whenever I reboot, the "startup script/application" doesn't start or starts... sometimes. Also I'm prompted to enter my wifi password sometimes and, sometime the wifi doesn't automatically connect.
[23:22] <samthewildone> This is a fresh install of 15.04 64bit updated to the latest.
[23:22] <samthewildone> This is all on my thinkpad t430s
[23:23]  * samthewildone goes into the customer lounge and waits for his ticket to be called. 
[23:23] <aleksey> !ru
[23:29] <mynis> Is there an easy way to disable all PPAs?
[23:30] <[n0mad]> mynis: you can open Software & Updates and uncheck the ones you don't want to update
[23:30] <[n0mad]> ones you added would be on the other software tab
[23:31] <krabador> !PPA | mynis
[23:31] <mynis> Hmm ok, I'm using a custom WM, is there a way to open that GUI from the cli?
[23:33] <mynis> Nevermind, I found it.
[23:33] <mynis> Thanks!
[23:35] <[n0mad]> mynis: you can go do software-center and then view > software sources but sounds like you're good
[23:35] <bprompt> mynis:   thanks? =), well, maybe the reverse psychology worked
[23:40] <LightweightOS> What method can I use to uninstall a package like wine without messing up my system? I've uninstalled packages before, and still had parts of it left over.
[23:40] <mynis> Use apt-get purge?
[23:42] <LightweightOS> I think the command is: Sudo apt-get --purge remove
[23:43] <krabador> mynis: for PPA, ppa-purge
[23:44] <krabador> mynis: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html?m=1
[23:46] <LightweightOS> Thanks mynis
[23:48] <mynis> No prob. I'm still getting the hang of apt again myself. I was on arch for like 3 years and then recently switched back to Ubuntu.
[23:58] <frozenonline> Does anyone know a way to quickly see all applications installed on the system when using unity?