| valorie | we need to draw in new people, and educate them | 00:02 |
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| valorie | but for now, dinner | 00:02 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: Mamarok I believe it was changed in the dailies | 05:07 |
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| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 10:52 |
| clivejo | yofel: you about? | 13:43 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: ? | 16:18 |
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| knome | hello kubuntu uploaders! | 21:02 |
| knome | (and developers) | 21:02 |
| knome | because of some changes lately, shimmer-themes has been snatched to the kubuntu packageset from xubuntu - the package-internal reason is the orion theme | 21:03 |
| knome | now, the orion theme is actually not maintained anymore, so for the xubuntu/shimmer team, it's ok that we simply remove that theme from the package and regain control of shimmer-themes | 21:04 |
| knome | now the question is, since kubuntu-desktop depends on that package indirectly, we were wondering if that was intentional and that you actually have a use for that theme? | 21:04 |
| * knome pokes Riddell,ScottK, sitter | 21:06 | |
| ScottK | knome: I'm not doing Kubuntu development anymore. | 21:07 |
| knome | ScottK, right-o, just saw you are still have the upload rights | 21:07 |
| knome | (because obviously, we need somebody with those to change the package) | 21:07 |
| ScottK | True. | 21:07 |
| knome | ScottK, sorry for the distraction! :) | 21:08 |
| ScottK | The packageset is controlled via seeds. | 21:08 |
| knome | i know | 21:08 |
| knome | we're pretty sure this is an unintentional side-effect, because there's little use for gtk themes with kde | 21:09 |
| knome | so here's a bug we've filed to actually fix the situation in another way: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/breeze/+bug/1497784 | 21:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1497784 in breeze (Ubuntu) "Drop recommends on deprecated orion-gtk-theme" [Undecided,New] | 21:09 |
| yofel | except that we need *some* theme for gtk apps, and since gtk broke the theming engine there is no kde-native one anymore | 21:10 |
| yofel | not sure if we use orion for that... | 21:10 |
| knome | yofel, the orion theme is unmaintained though, so it won't work very well with latest gtk3 versions | 21:10 |
| knome | yofel, we're happy to just drop it from shimmer-themes too if you want to keep both of the orion theme pieces ;) | 21:10 |
| knome | that's why we wanted to check with you first... | 21:11 |
| yofel | yep | 21:15 |
| yofel | breeze-5.4.0/misc/gtkbreeze/main.cpp: const QString gtk3Theme = QStringLiteral("Orion"); // Orion looks kindae like breeze | 21:15 |
| yofel | knome: thanks for the info in any case, we'll look at it tomorrow when Riddell and sitter are here | 21:16 |
| knome | sure | 21:16 |
| knome | so i guess the two options are that 1) you get the package and totally get to keep it or 2) we resolve the dependency issue in a way or another so that shimmer-themes gets back to xubuntu | 21:16 |
| yofel | shouldn't adding it to the xubuntu seed put it into both seeds? | 21:17 |
| knome | bluesabre, isn't shimmer-themes in the xubuntu seed? | 21:18 |
| knome | yofel, ^ and i think no, because the way the packagesets are built | 21:18 |
| yofel | meh | 21:19 |
| knome | (kubuntu comes before xubuntu, so it snatches shimmer-themes) | 21:19 |
| bluesabre | it was until earlier in the cycle, then got pulled into the kubuntu seed with the breeze upload | 21:19 |
| knome | maybe some packageseed building wizard knows a way around this - we don't | 21:19 |
| bluesabre | seeds are generated by a script run by DMB members, micahg is currently looking into it | 21:20 |
| ochosi | yeah, but really, i don't wanna waste any more time and manhours on that. if you want orion just take it. we're not maintaining it anymore either way | 21:22 |
| knome | so yeah, for that, it's as simple as dropping it from shimmer-themes :) | 21:23 |
| yofel | sure, we'll probably do that for 15.10. I don't think we or the plasma folks will find a good replacement in a hurry | 21:23 |
| knome | if you want something that matches, then likely not | 21:24 |
| knome | if you want something that works, then it's a different thing, but then we'll likely need some packageset hacking anyway ;) | 21:24 |
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