[00:08] <lindol> hi all
[01:18] <lindol> ~.~
[09:31] <darkxst> LinDol_phone, hi
[09:32] <darkxst> copy text: presumably means like copy + paste text
[09:32] <darkxst> cutting edge: is like brand new/leading technology
[09:33] <LinDol_phone> yeah, I have learned it already.:)
[09:33] <LinDol_phone> thank you.
[09:33] <LinDol_phone> ;)
[09:38] <LinDol_phone> I am waiting for review to confirm it, After finishing to translate ;)
[09:39] <LinDol_phone> thank you darkxst for giving me chance.
[09:39] <darkxst> LinDol_phone, great! and no problem
[10:41] <octoquad> darkxst, do you see anything strange here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12499531/ Re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings/+bug/1494201
[10:42] <octoquad> two calls to update-initramfs so not sure if there is a problem somewhere else now
[10:42] <octoquad> Hi LinDol_phone
[10:47] <LinDol_phone> octoquad, hi ;)
[10:48] <darkxst> octoquad, looks ok
[10:56] <octoquad> darkxst, then there is nothing to due then?
[10:56] <darkxst> octoquad, all I can think of that their upgrades borked and had stuck packages not yet configured
[10:57] <octoquad> darkxst, I get plymouth text in VM so unable to confirm if it works correctly though
[10:57] <octoquad> darkxst, ok, should I just mark as invalid?
[10:57] <darkxst> plymouth works in vmware with 3d enabled
[10:58] <octoquad> interesting, i'll give that a bash then. vbox has 3d acceleration enabled. wierd
[11:01] <Inoki> Guys I just purged gnome3 and staging PPAs, but when I open dconf-editor and look for the mouse in peripherals, I see only the speed string, nothing else. That normal? Was the same under 3.16.
[11:03] <darkxst> Inoki, the settings moved
[11:03] <darkxst> org.gnome.desktop.peripherals
[11:03] <Inoki> darkxst: thanks a ton!
[11:04] <Inoki> That's what I get for having used Unity...
[11:04] <darkxst> Inoki, I moved them in unity also
[11:04] <darkxst> well Unity inherited the move
[11:06] <darkxst> octoquad, vbox 3d drivers are absolute rubbish, vmware has a nice (and in mainline kernel) gallium based driver
[11:06] <Inoki> Yeah, I was used to them appearing immediately after I type in "periph" in dconf, now I had to double-Enter.
[11:06] <Inoki> A bit confusing but all good in the end.
[11:06] <Inoki> btw darkxst, you guys aware of the notification glitches in 3.16?
[11:07] <darkxst> no
[11:09] <Inoki> Not many perhaps use Empathy, I started now and noticed, that when I connect to IRC I just couldn't get the notifications out of the notification tray by just clicking the "x" on them, I had to open manually each window and clear its contents several times before they disappeared.
[11:09] <Inoki> Also, hovering over a contact in Empathy gave strange blinking pop-ups.
[11:09] <Inoki> I reverted back to 3.14 and now it's all good.
[11:10] <Inoki> Also, another thing - in 3.16 sometimes shades from under windows appeared rough, not smooth as they should. they even formed a box around the normal window with a visible stroke.
[11:13] <darkxst> Inoki, are you using 3.16 on 15.04?
[11:13] <Inoki> darkxst: I was, up until now.
[11:13] <Inoki> darkxst: I just reverted back.
[11:13] <darkxst> I would strongly suggest upgrading to 15.10 at this point
[11:14] <Inoki> I will, but even so, since it's recommended to purge those PPAs before an upgrade to a greater version I removed them.
[11:15] <Inoki> While we're at it, you could have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/HowTo/UpgradeGnomeShell if you haven't done so darkxst, to verify I wrote everything correct.
[11:15] <darkxst> Inoki, did you see my email an hour ago?
[11:16] <Inoki> Not sure, gonna check now.
[11:16] <darkxst> also gnome3 is considered stable and contains the last missing bits that did make it into the proper archives
[11:16] <darkxst> gnome3-staging is the one more for testing, but we declare it stable around 3.xx.1 release
[11:17] <Inoki> Now checking the email...
[11:18] <Inoki> Right, gonna update the article now.
[11:28] <Inoki> darkxst check now
[11:29] <darkxst> Inoki, you missed the -get and the caret "^"in apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^
[11:30] <darkxst> "ppa-purge doesn't remove added repositories completely, only disables them," <- software-updater
[11:30] <Inoki> Not necessary imo. I use it always without and it works.
[11:30] <Inoki> I install everything with sudo apt install <package>
[11:30] <Inoki> It even shows install progress that way.
[11:31] <darkxst> Inoki, it is neccesary
[11:31] <darkxst> it can pull in Unity stuff if done as a normal install
[11:31] <Inoki> Ok, I'll change it then.
[11:32] <darkxst> Inoki, you have the Just to be safe section completely backward!
[11:33] <Inoki> Huh? How is that?
[11:33] <darkxst> ppa-purge removes the packages and disables the ppas
[11:33] <darkxst> that is ok
[11:33] <darkxst> but software-updater only disable ppa's, and many people just assume that is enough
[11:33] <Inoki> I meant it doesn't remove the repos themselves, only disables them
[11:33] <Inoki> But it removes packages
[11:33] <darkxst> especially if they have done upgrades before
[11:35] <darkxst> "The Software updater only disables PPA's and doesn't remove the actual packages, this can cause issues with the upgrades if you are using gnome3-staging, so make sure you ppa-purge before upgrade"
[11:35] <Inoki> So I'll write that ppa-purge disables PPAs and removes their packages, but it's necessary to open up Software & Updates to manually navigate to those sources and remove them completely.
[11:35] <darkxst> or something
[11:35] <darkxst> no, ppa-purge is enough
[11:35] <darkxst> but ofter people don't do that
[11:36] <darkxst> because they have seen the messages in the updater saying ppa's are being disabled before
[11:39] <darkxst> Inoki, and it should probaly go in the Install section, so they actually read it when installing!
[11:41] <Inoki> darkxst: easy, calm down dude :)
[11:41] <Inoki> darkxst: it should be in users' interest to read instructions carefully. If they don't do so no matter what we do we won't change the fact that they screwed up, not us.
[11:41] <darkxst> here:
[11:41] <darkxst> Just to be perfectly safe next you upgrade
[11:41] <darkxst> The Software updater only disables PPA's and doesn't remove the actual packages, this can cause issues with the upgrades if you are using gnome3-staging, so make sure you ppa-purge before upgrade to a new distro release
[11:42] <darkxst> and move it up to below Reboot
[11:42] <darkxst> remove the other bits
[11:42] <Inoki> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/HowTo/UpgradeGnomeShell#Just_to_be_perfectly_safe
[11:45] <Inoki> Dude, if you have issues with it, to make it to your image log in to that page and change it however you want, because we can argue like this till the end of the day and nothing gets solved. You're confusing the heck of me in the morning.
[11:47] <darkxst> ok
[11:57] <octoquad> :)
[12:24] <darkxst> ricotz webkit build failed at 85% in the end, but looks like its just due to a missing dep for gdkwayland
[12:25] <darkxst> because I of course wasn't building that
[12:26] <darkxst> not sure why i'd disabled it though!
[12:28] <ricotz> darkxst, probably missing cairo-gl
[12:29] <ricotz> meaning no 2.9.92+ in ubuntu without having cairo building its gl/egl backend
[12:31] <darkxst> idk, I had the gtk wayland backend disable in jhbuildrc for some reason
[12:32] <ricotz> ok
[12:33] <darkxst> but the missing cairo gl backend does sound like it could cause problems
[12:33] <ricotz> I havent looked further into this linker problem yet
[18:38] <ricotz> darkxst, heh, do you recognize the problem ;) https://launchpadlibrarian.net/218409229/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.mozjs38_38.2.1~rc0-0ubuntu1~15.10~wfg0_BUILDING.txt.gz
[18:39] <ricotz> jfyi
[18:39] <ricotz> https://launchpad.net/~wfg/+archive/ubuntu/0ad.dev/+packages?field.name_filter=mozjs38&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=