[00:13] :( [00:13] i think if you didn't want more than openelec could provide, life could be simple :) [00:14] well, I'm trying to use osmc at the moment [00:14] so .. similar. except I can actually access the filesystem without rebuilding the whole thing [00:14] oh dear [00:14] haha i had a PM from one of the people in the community/devs for that, because i called their community incompetent [00:14] (I tried openelec, trying to remaster their rootfs was pure pain) [00:15] reason being, they tailor the thing for Pis - yet none of their IRC channel even know about the memory divider [00:15] well you're just a big mean meanie. [00:15] :D [00:15] was just a bit concerning that i was able to point out the problem to a couple of people, when i don't even own one [00:15] mostly I'm just finding the same problem as the rest of opensource [00:15] "stop trying to fix it, it already works" [00:16] but you must geek, so it can work _better_! [00:16] this isn't better. this really isn't better lol [00:17] I'm trying to figure out how to port the skin I was using on 11, because it was near-perfect. but they've kept on fiddling, and now it's a disaster [00:17] there's a lot to be said for figuring out when to say no [00:17] ooh-err, i think skins are an exercise in pain [00:18] i don't even stray from confluence [00:19] most the skins seem to be obsessed with seeing how many more flashy lights they can fit in [00:19] I had a really old build of refocus where I just had links down the side for movies/tv shows/weather. and that's it [00:20] now it's all like .. we found some spare space to add another flashy! needs more, needs more! [00:20] ah so quite close to the stock ATV one? [00:20] more like the windows metro look, if you took away the tiles behind the text [00:21] ah-har [00:21] but now each button has borders, which adds nothing. and each button now tries to do 4 things, when it only needed to do one [00:22] I mean, when I press 'tv shows'. I want to see my tv shows. that should be really obvious. I don't need a submenu. [00:23] * daftykins fires up Kodi [00:23] they have added a 'feature' to customize the buttons, but to me that's just admitting that they've replaced "works" with "can be massaged into working" [00:24] that does sound quite annoying [00:24] oh dear i've just gotten a 'drive timeout detected' on my RAID :( [00:24] port 11, hmm [00:25] that also sounds quite annoying :p [00:25] drive removed O_O [00:25] how many disks have you got? [00:25] 12 port controller, ports 7-12 are populated with my newest array atm [00:26] 1-6 is the old which don't get powered on [00:26] are the old disks, i should say [00:26] "all of them". when you're on a far-flung island, it's performant to cache the internet. the entire internet. [00:26] :D [00:26] yeech I hate the 'performant' word [00:26] and the best part, Kodi carried on updating the library as if nothing happened [00:27] reminds me, the gen8 hp microserver .. anyone tried running the OS off the sd card? [00:38] there we go, replugged the power to the disk whilst live and she's rebuilding now [00:38] "oh noes! our sibling was gone for mere minutes!" [00:43] <3 hardware RAID :) [00:44] * penguin42 got sent a job ad for a C++ programmer in Cambridge doing something involving Yocto, Perl/Python and Postcipt/PDF/PCL - so it sounds like someones trying to build a Yocto based printer - I'm not interested but can forward to anyone who is [01:13] ah this "Mr. Robot" is really fun so far :) episode 1 [01:33] aha, got my optical out working :) [01:34] and yeha, I liked ep1. but .. [01:38] slid from there huh? [01:41] I dunno. everyone else seems to like it [01:59] there we go, ep 1 down === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [08:04] aloha [08:07] Ah the RAT survivors [08:08] those that minded the step... [08:15] zmoylan-pi: lol [08:15] I was driving I've to fly in a few hours on a 11 hr flight [08:16] https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LauraCzajkowski/posts/3jbCYWG8S43 community social day out [08:19] you must by now have the biggest collection of duty free... [08:23] I [08:23] m past duty free excitement [08:23] you could build a log cabin of toblerones... [08:24] <--- gone [09:33] morning [09:36] popey: I am in need of a little convergence demo video of ubuntu (where you can switch from touch to desktop mode) do you have anyplace I might find a decent one ? [09:41] morning boys and girls. [09:55] mmm cracked corn toblerone [10:00] Knightwise there are some on YouTube [10:02] leecowdrey_: found some .. mostly demos by engineers or developers .. no "commercial video's " that i can quickly use in a presentation [10:04] Yeah sorry, don't know about commercial ones as thought was still work in progress for 2016 as the phones out on the market (not ports) don't yet support MHL [10:40] knightwise: no commerical ones yet because it's not stable enough [15:18] popey: not even concept ones ? [15:18] no === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [16:42] Good morning peeps :) [16:42] * penguin42 yawns === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [18:03] yo [18:04] hey popey [18:05] Word [18:06] hammer time... [18:28] evening all [18:28] \o [18:44] yo [19:14] all the rail passengers survived the rat then? [19:15] apparently [19:16] and did anyone slip the receipt from a tattoo parlor into the back pocket of anyone? :-D [19:23] I wonder if there's a term for that? 'rat train', like 'pin number' [19:26] hmm [19:26] seems like the kinda thing that should [19:26] that's what I'm thinking. if spoonerisms have a term, this surely should [19:27] closest I can find is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAS_syndrome [19:28] but that seems quite difficult to use in a sentence. [19:29] (and I'm quite impressed I found that much. further proof that googling stuff is the primary skillset in my job) [19:29] wow [19:30] haha yeah i'm amazed you found that [19:35] wouldn't rat train be wrong as the t in rat is train? [19:37] nah that's the point, it's redundant repetition on the tail end of acronyms [19:38] hmm, my lid doesn't suspend the laptop anymore [19:38] right, "real ale train train" [19:38] * zmoylan-pi leaves these common redundancies... http://grammar.about.com/od/words/a/redundancies.htm [19:42] I never call it RAT, it's always known as the Beer Train round these parts [19:46] firefox doesn't reflow text on android :( [19:50] * Laney screams [19:51] took me 9 attempts to type my passphrase just now [19:51] emphasis on the phrase [19:51] Alongtimeagoinagalaxyfarfaraway [19:52] Laney: into what? [19:52] pinentry dialog [19:52] was sighing an email [19:53] signing? [19:53] * daftykins blinks [19:53] yes very good [19:53] if I just type it slower it'll probably take less time overall [19:53] well now we can see why the passphrase was a struggle ;) [19:54] XD [19:54] right [19:54] goodbye! [19:54] I keep getting this at work. everytime they make us change our passwords, by time it's muscle-memory it's time to change it again [19:55] so I feel like an idiot every single time I sit down [20:00] such policy can only be harmful [20:01] forces folk to pick less complex things i reckon [20:01] or entices them to write them down [20:07] which is a good thing [20:07] wat [20:08] writing down passwords is a good idea [20:08] it means you can have very long complex passwords and not worry about forgetting them [20:08] not if they're left in front of the keyboard by users :D [20:08] I didn't say that :) [20:08] I write mine down. I tend not to stick it to the screen [20:08] no but i think that's more the scenario we were angling at [20:08] I actually have a bunch on a small whiteboard by my desk [20:09] a practice I'll quit as soon as they actually fix SSO [20:09] or one of your neighbours gets a drone... ;-) [20:10] heh, I mean at work. they won't need a drone :) [20:11] i have my passwords written down bottom to top split across 2 pieces of paper. so if you find one... [20:11] and if you can a glimpse it's gibberish [20:11] i would use ogham but there's not enough characters :-) [20:12] oh I don't bother complicating it at all. if you want to go do my performance appraisals for me, feel free. they're all low-value cruft else they'd be using SSO [20:13] EVENIN ALL [20:39] i wonder if password crack dicts have klingon dicts [20:41] bah, my lid closed suspend script worked once only :( [20:43] it's just a list of words added to their already big lists so yeah... === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away