=== TheMaster is now known as Unit193
[03:19] <pleia2> social media-ing the call for translators
[03:23] <pleia2> added the link from drc to the In the Press page
[03:24] <pleia2> since I've had a couple people ask leading up to release, I'll work to make time tomorrow to draft up the blog post about the flyers (we'll see how that goes)
[03:33]  * pleia2 goes to dinner
[03:35] <Unit193> Eat well.
[04:29] <backinthegame42> Hello everybody. When I set a static IP for my wireless connection on xubuntu 14 it completely freezes the system requiring a hard reset. Any ideas?
[04:30] <backinthegame42> Via nm-applet
[04:30] <backinthegame42> Interfaces reconfigured doesn't seem to work. It increases boot time with a network configuration error.
=== Guest11508 is now known as flocculant
[09:15] <knome> went ahead and registered some blueprints: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-x-xubuntu for the umbrella and links for more
[09:15] <knome> all postponed items are added to the appropriate blueprints
[09:33] <flocculant> as you'll have seen - some were already done for other teams :p
[09:33] <knome> yes
[11:44] <bluesabre> morning all
[11:45] <knome> hello bluesabre 
[11:46] <bluesabre> hey knome
[11:53] <flocculant> hi bluesabre 
[12:19] <bluesabre> hey flocculant 
[12:24] <flocculant> hi bluesabre 
[12:25] <Unit193> Element ULINK in namespace '' encountered in para, but no template matches.
[12:25] <flocculant> seems we're still waiting for ghostscript to get out of proposed - image at 1.too much Gb still :)
[12:26] <Unit193> settings-preferences.xml:313: element para: validity error : Element ULINK is not declared in para list of possible children
[12:26] <Unit193> settings-preferences.xml:313: element ULINK: validity error : No declaration for element ULINK
[12:26] <Unit193> settings-preferences.xml:313: element ULINK: validity error : No declaration for attribute URL of element ULINK
[12:26] <Unit193> Document ru/index.xml does not validate
[12:58] <flocculant> nope - not in proposed - for some reason manifest shows the updated version - but image still has the older one
[12:58] <flocculant> watch that tomorrow - not sure we're going to want b2 at 1.6Gb 
[13:00] <knome> haha
[13:01] <flocculant> :)
[13:02] <knome> lots of smiles
[13:04] <knome> ok, time to go
[13:04] <knome> bbl
[16:05] <bluesabre> afternoon folks :D
[16:07] <flocculant> hey bluesabre 
[16:07] <bluesabre> whats up flocculant 
[16:08] <flocculant> absolutely nothing - having a lazy day :p
[16:09] <flocculant> you?
[16:10] <bluesabre> nm, trying to get a few things done today
[16:10] <bluesabre> poking -release, and then micahg
[16:10] <bluesabre> :)
[16:11] <flocculant> :)
[16:30] <bluesabre> flocculant: still around?
[16:36] <bluesabre> flocculant: found the plaintext vs octet-stream issue, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1497170
[16:36] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1497170 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "New file creation - not opening with file editor" [High,Confirmed]
[16:40] <bluesabre> knome, slickymaster: in case you want to -docs ack https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfpanel-switch/+bug/1497753
[16:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1497753 in xfpanel-switch (Ubuntu) "[FFe] xfpanel-switch 1.0.2" [Undecided,New]
[16:46] <Unit193> bluesabre: Yeah, saw you actually did end up filing a FFE.
[16:47] <bluesabre> Unit193: yeah, thought it'd be best
[16:47] <bluesabre> even if it might take a while for somebody in -release to notice
[16:59] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbabl
[17:01] <Unit193> Be Back Around Beta Launch?
[17:08] <krytarik> After. :D
[17:43] <bluesabre> :D
[17:51] <micahg> ghostprint just had it recommends updated and reverted for pulling in lots of things
[17:52] <Unit193> Mhmm.
[18:02] <pleia2> knome and anyone else who wants to preview/modify/comment upon the flyer draft post: http://xubuntu.org/?p=3477&preview=true (need to be a team member who can log into the site...)
[18:02] <slickymaster> done bluesabre 
[18:28] <pleia2> sent questions off to another organization using xubuntu (I now have 2 sets of questions in flight, fingers crossed), will likely publish both these next cycle
[18:30] <pleia2> knome: I still have a static.xubuntu.org update to do w/ symlinks to add, I'm home for a couple weeks so grab me when you're ready to finish that up :)
[18:41] <bluesabre> slickymaster: thanks
[18:41] <slickymaster> sure bluesabre 
[18:41] <slickymaster> np
[18:58] <flocculant> bluesabre: nice to see you found the issue :)
[18:58] <bluesabre> flocculant: now the question is how to proceed with that issue :)
[18:59] <flocculant> yea - but better than not knowing what the issue is :p
[18:59] <flocculant> other than it's not working dude 
[19:00] <bluesabre> :D
[19:02] <flocculant> micahg: yea - saw that sitting there - hopefully it'll be cooked by tomorrow
[20:40] <ochosi> knome: thanks for setting up the 16.04 bps in advance. that really does make a lot of sense and i guess we should've made it common practice a few cycles ago already
[20:41] <Unit193> 1604bps?  Gosh that's slow.
[20:45] <bluesabre> wowza
[20:45] <bluesabre> hi ochosi 
[20:46] <ochosi> evening bluesabre 
[20:46] <bluesabre> how's it going?
[20:47] <ochosi> quite busy :)
[20:47] <ochosi> but ok
[20:47] <ochosi> working a lot during the days, and during the evenings too
[20:47] <bluesabre> busy busy
[20:47] <ochosi> but i guess things will slow down a bit when routine starts to kick in
[20:47] <ochosi> still many new things everywhere
[20:48] <bluesabre> :)
[20:49] <bluesabre> at least you're managing to stay afloat
[20:49] <ochosi> indeed
[20:49] <ochosi> and at least i manage to stop by here on a regular basis ;)
[20:49] <ochosi> so how're things on your endß
[20:49] <ochosi> ?
[20:50] <bluesabre> pretty good
[20:51] <bluesabre> another release day over here
[20:51] <bluesabre> xfpanel-switch, catfish, menulibre
[20:51] <bluesabre> so far
[20:52] <ochosi> wowza
[20:52] <ochosi> busy bee
[20:52] <bluesabre> winding down now
[20:52] <knome> ochosi, np :)
[20:52] <bluesabre> hey knome
[20:52] <knome> hey bluesabre 
[20:52] <ochosi> i'm sorry i didn't manage to remain entirely up-to-date, what did you update/fix?
[20:52] <ochosi> also, is the clutter bug tackled/acknowledged upstream yet?
[20:53] <bluesabre> https://launchpad.net/xfpanel-switch/1.0/1.0.2 - https://launchpad.net/catfish-search/1.3/1.3.2 - https://launchpad.net/menulibre/2.1/2.1.1
[20:53] <bluesabre> mostly just translations
[20:53] <ochosi> ah ok
[20:54] <bluesabre> but some bugs in there
[20:54] <bluesabre> clutter bug so far ignored
[20:54] <ochosi> oh, nice bugfixes for xfpanel-switch though
[20:54] <knome> nice burndown ;)
[20:54] <ochosi> that too
[20:55] <knome> ochosi, have you enjoyed the new details page a lot?
[20:55] <ochosi> i still am enjoying it
[20:55] <knome> :)
[20:55] <ochosi> wait, are you planning to take it away from me again..?
[20:55] <bluesabre> ochosi: on debian side, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin finally uploaded
[20:56] <knome> i'm actually very happy and a bit surprised how nice it turned out
[20:56] <ochosi> bluesabre: yeah, saw that, very very cool
[20:56] <knome> including the visual side
[20:56] <ochosi> i hope i can spend some time on that again soon (or maybe andrzejr will ;))
[20:56] <ochosi> knome: indeed, very nice work on that
[20:56] <knome> happy to be useful
[20:56] <bluesabre> if -release shows up today, we might get shimmer-themes and xfpanel-switch uploaded
[20:57] <knome> sunday isn't the fastest day for release
[20:57] <ochosi> knome: how hard will it be to set this up for 16.04? lots of manual copy-pasting-editing?
[20:57] <ochosi> bluesabre: yeah, keeping my fingers crossed
[20:57] <ochosi> also, we should get in touch with the kubuntu devs
[20:57] <ochosi> or simply drop orion from shimmer-themes
[20:57] <knome> ochosi, add one sql table row, make one column in that true and other in the wily column false
[20:57] <knome> it's all built to be dynamic
[20:58] <bluesabre> ochosi: yeah, that'd be the easiest way to get shimmer-themes back
[20:58] <ochosi> it's unmaintained, satya doesn't care about it anymore (and/or doesnt have time for it) and i have no time/interest in maintaining orion
[20:58] <knome> the event dates is the only thing that is done manually in code atm
[20:58] <ochosi> bluesabre: and getting shimmer-themes back has already taken far too long, so please let's just do that...
[20:58] <bluesabre> ochosi: would you want to reach out to them as a shimmer rep so that we can make that happen? :)
[20:58] <ochosi> i can try
[20:59] <ochosi> but my online-time is fairly limited
[20:59] <bluesabre> yeah
[20:59] <ochosi> i'll be off in about 20-25mins
[20:59] <knome> bluesabre, them? == satya?
[20:59] <bluesabre> knome: them = kubuntu
[20:59] <ochosi> i think he meant kubuntu
[21:00] <ochosi> then again, i consider that a royal waste of time
[21:00] <ochosi> orion simply isn't worth it
[21:00] <bluesabre> yeah
[21:00] <ochosi> heck, we don't even install that by default
[21:00] <knome> we can drop orion
[21:00] <ochosi> if they want it, they can have it
[21:00] <knome> lol
[21:00] <bluesabre> alrighty
[21:00] <knome> i can talk to kubuntu people
[21:00] <knome> if it's needed
[21:00] <knome> about orion
[21:01] <ochosi> knome: i think not
[21:01] <knome> ok
[21:01] <ochosi> they'll notice
[21:01] <knome> hah
[21:01] <ochosi> and then they can decide what they wanna do
[21:01] <knome> well it would be nice to notice them in advance
[21:01] <ochosi> i'll keep the github repo alive
[21:01] <bluesabre> ochosi: except, we can't remove it from the package
[21:01] <bluesabre> requires upload rights :P
[21:01]  * ochosi facepalms
[21:01] <bluesabre> I'll create a bug report for it
[21:01] <knome> lol
[21:01] <knome> bluesabre, point me to that then
[21:01] <ochosi> knome: k, then pls talk to them
[21:01] <bluesabre> knome: will do
[21:02] <bluesabre> just a few minutes...
[21:06] <knome> joined #kubuntu-devel and explained the situation
[21:06] <knome> now waiting for a reply :)
[21:06] <knome> when i get the bug, i'll follow-up with it
[21:07] <knome> feel free to join to talk about it if/when they reply
[21:07] <ochosi> thanks
[21:07] <knome> (just as much feel free not to...)
[21:08] <bluesabre> knome: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/breeze/+bug/1497784
[21:08] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1497784 in breeze (Ubuntu) "Drop recommends on deprecated orion-gtk-theme" [Undecided,New]
[21:11] <bluesabre> suppose I can grab a kubuntu iso and see if they are using breeze
[21:11] <bluesabre> er
[21:11] <bluesabre> orion-gtk-theme
[21:11] <knome> heh
[21:11] <knome> i guess they should know
[21:11] <knome> right? :P
[21:11] <bluesabre> probably
[21:17] <bluesabre> aww, they figured it out before the iso finished downloading
[21:20] <ochosi> well good to finally see some movement on that side
[21:20] <ochosi> that was really bothering me for a while already
[21:20] <knome> friendly communication can fix a load of things
[21:25] <bluesabre> micahg: is the packageset generation script in one of the ubuntu packages? most ubuntu things are python, so if it is I can take a look at it and provide a patch
[21:26] <bluesabre> micahg: just need to know where to look :)
[21:27] <ochosi> not that i want to discourage you from working, but really, i think *this* might not be worth it...
[21:27] <bluesabre> ochosi: it could save us from future headaches
[21:27] <ochosi> i'd rather see the keyboard-shortcut overlay implemented or something ;)
[21:28] <bluesabre> :p
[21:28] <ochosi> future headaches in the sense that other DEs might grab other themes?
[21:28] <ochosi> i think in the future we'll just react more directly
[21:29] <ochosi> same as we did now, but 4months earlier
[21:29] <ochosi> *that* will certainly save us headaches!
[21:29] <ochosi> :)
[21:29] <bluesabre> or other packages
[21:30] <ochosi> anyhoo, that was just my 2cents
[21:30] <bluesabre> if there is some flaw that causes any shared package to be yanked from xubuntu even if we maintain it, I'd like to fix that
[21:30] <bluesabre> :D
[21:30] <ochosi> gotta get some sleep now anyway
[21:30] <ochosi> yeah
[21:30] <bluesabre> night ochosi
[21:30] <ochosi> i agree
[21:30] <ochosi> or: invest some time to become MOTU ;)
[21:31] <bluesabre> yeah
[21:31] <bluesabre> that's probably what I really need to do
[21:31] <ochosi> another way of saving us from headaches
[21:31]  * ochosi is full of ideas tonight
[21:31]  * bluesabre has so far avoided becoming a motu to keep up development time
[21:32] <ochosi> right
[21:32] <bluesabre> and/or free time
[21:32] <ochosi> in that case, keep avoiding it );
[21:32] <ochosi> we can always annoy others if this happens again
[21:32] <ochosi> i think reacting fast is enough
[21:33] <knome> that thoght includes the subthought that people who are actually active should look into things
[21:34] <knome> instead of assigning/delegating to people who might know more about the issue, but are not active or do not have the time
[21:34] <ochosi> agreed
[21:34] <knome> no hard feelings here or anything like that, but i thought this needed to be said out loud
[21:37] <bluesabre> mhm
[21:40] <knome> and i will totally support and stand by both bluesabre and Unit193 if they decide to apply for MOTU
[21:40] <ochosi> +1
[21:41] <ochosi> anyway, night all (for realz this time)
[21:41] <knome> nighty simon
[21:42] <bluesabre> night ochosi 
[21:42] <bluesabre> suppose I'll start the app process now
[21:42] <bluesabre> will be handy for x anyway
[21:43] <knome> :)
[21:50] <knome> i think it should be a relatively smooth operation for you
[21:51] <bluesabre> ideally
[21:52] <knome> bluesabre, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers
[21:53] <knome> bluesabre, search for "xubuntu" on that page
[21:53] <knome> shouldn't we be listed on the previous list?
[21:53] <knome> with ~xubuntu-uploaders
[21:54] <bluesabre> knome: yup, we should
[21:54] <bluesabre> maybe the wiki finally logged me in
[21:55] <bluesabre> nope, died
[21:55] <bluesabre> try again
[21:55] <knome> well i think you should simply ask the dmb to change that
[21:58] <knome> pleia2, heeey, the planet css change has made it to production after months of waiting :>
[22:37] <knome> wb krytarik 
[22:46] <krytarik> knome: LOL