[01:54] <xubuntu43w> join
[01:56] <xubuntu43w> I have a compaq presario cn6220 that is running xubuntu 14.04.  It will not load wifi.
[02:34] <xubuntu43w> quit
[02:41] <holstein> xubuntu43w: wont "load" wifi? you mean, you cant connect to wifi?
[02:41] <holstein> !wifi
[02:42] <xubuntu43w> correct
[02:42] <holstein> ^ thats where i start.. i want to learn, the chipset, and see if i need to tweak something in the bios, etc..
[02:42] <holstein> could be, a function key that turns it on.. could be, the hardware isnt functioning..
[02:43] <xubuntu43w> I even changed the wifi
[02:43] <holstein> you mean, you changed wifi adapters? or, wifi hotspots? by moving locations? or, you changed wifi access points by changing your router? or, changed your router settings?
[02:44] <xubuntu43w> wifi light comes on, "sudo lshw" shows wifi
[02:44] <xubuntu43w> yes, the adapter
[02:44] <holstein> well, its the chipset that is the issue.. also, whatever you are plugging the adapters into..
[02:45] <holstein> i would look at the chipset that i have, and search if i need a module for it to support the linux kernel in ubuntu
[02:45] <xubuntu43w> but the wifi works when I boot windows 7 using wintousb
[02:46] <holstein> sure.. but, you were promised windows support for that hardware, so, that only tells you the hardware is functional..
[02:46] <xubuntu43w> I see
[02:46] <holstein> linux isnt preventing that hardware from working.. but, as you know from using windows, you may need to add a driver.. a module, for the device to support that operating system
[02:47] <holstein> i would simply follow the wifi guide, and see what chipset i have..
[02:47] <xubuntu43w> exactly, but I can't find one
[02:47] <holstein> xubuntu43w: you cant find one what? chipset?
[02:47] <xubuntu43w> ne, driver
[02:47] <xubuntu43w> no
[02:48] <holstein> when i open a terminal, and run "lspci", i get the chipset info. i then, can ask for help, here, or #ubuntu, or search for a module
[02:48] <xubuntu43w> good advice
[02:48] <holstein> xubuntu43w: why not open a terminal, and run "lspci" and share info about your chipset?
[02:50] <xubuntu43w> yep, worth a try
[02:50] <holstein> sounds like, you've got 2 to try and make support linux..
[04:32] <backinthegame42> hello everybody
[04:33] <backinthegame42> When I set a static ip via the nm-applet for my wireless connection it freezes my system requiring a hard reset. Any ideas?
[04:45] <TronaldDump> hi everybody
[05:33] <xubuntu96i> hi all
[07:54] <killcrops> Hola alguien con habla hispana?
[08:18] <xubuntu26i> hi
[08:19] <xubuntu26i> i am trying to install xubu from a live usb but its giving an error
[08:19] <xubuntu26i> apt configuration problem
[08:19] <xubuntu26i> disk check -- OK
[08:20]  * xubuntu26i slaps dmzda around a bit with a large fishbot
[09:25] <thoma> Hi. Anyone is struggling with this qt tray icons problem: https://imgur.com/a/6yTC3
[09:26] <thoma> this is spideroak's tray icon, which client is using qt4
[09:27] <thoma> sometimes it's ok like on first screenshoot, but most of time it's broken like it can be seen on second one
[09:27] <thoma> (xubuntu 15.04)
[09:48] <xubuntu41w> Is this bug fixed or will it be fixed in the next version ?   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/1319187
[09:59] <knome> xubuntu41w, the bug is only confirmed, so not fixed
[09:59] <xubuntu41w> It shud be fixed, i am tired of waiting. I using another linux bacuas of this bug.
[10:00] <knome> xubuntu41w, just remember everybody working on xubuntu is a volunteer
[10:01] <knome> xubuntu41w, if a bug bothers you very much, you are free to take action yourself as well and fix it
[10:01] <xubuntu41w> I understand.
[10:02] <knome> xubuntu41w, i've commented on the bug right now, pointing to a possible workaround found in the duplicate bug
[12:36] <gianmarco> How can I run tropico5 as root? I tried sudo and then the command to start the game but it says "Cannot run as root user"
[12:40] <knome> gianmarco, the game just told you you can't, why should you?
[12:43] <gianmarco> Because it's a known issue with linux, tropico5 has permission issues and must start as root
[12:43] <gianmarco> otherwise it won't work
[12:43] <gianmarco> I know it sucks because they sold it as linux compatible
[12:43] <knome> if it's a known issue, then i'm sure there are guides on how to make it executable by root
[12:44] <gianmarco> No, that is not explained
[12:44] <knome> by other players.
[12:44] <gianmarco> I tried sudo steam steam://rungameid/245620
[12:44] <gianmarco> but I got an error: "Cannot run as root user"
[12:45] <gianmarco> And I'm the only user using this pc
[12:45] <gianmarco> So I should be admin too
[12:45] <knome> you should likely ask steam support, or sth
[12:45] <knome> admin != root
[12:45] <gianmarco> I already contacted the software house who produced the game but they are not answeringt
[12:45] <gianmarco> and I asked 3 days ago
[12:46] <gianmarco> I guess the lesson is screw videogames, steam and proprietary software.
[12:46] <gianmarco> Too bad I already spent my money.
[12:46] <cfhowlett> gianmarco, poor support from them - but they and/or steam are the best source for fixing it.
[12:46] <knome> i don't think many people can answer your question here either, unless they've played the game
[12:47] <gianmarco> but don't you know why I get the error ""Cannot run as root user"" ? Isn't that related to my system?
[12:47] <knome> no, it's definitely related to either steam or the game
[12:47] <gianmarco> Allright, I'll keep poking them then.
[12:47] <gianmarco> Thanks anyway
[13:38] <melodie> hi
[13:39] <melodie> has someone noticed a bug related to xfconf, preventing icons on the desktop to stay at the same place where they have been moved to ? when you restart the session for example?
[13:41] <flocculant> bug 1335492
[13:42] <melodie> flocculant thanks
[13:43] <melodie> flocculant I'll add a testimonial
[13:49] <thoma> Hi. Anyone is struggling with this qt tray icons problem: https://imgur.com/a/6yTC3
[13:51] <melodie> I don't
[13:51] <melodie> bye
[13:51] <melodie> (I don't use xubuntu, I just install it for a few people )
[13:52] <thoma> sigh. who cares.
[14:47] <xubuntu19w> hello; upgrade got rudely interrupted, now my machine goes into the weeds, anybody here can help?
[14:50] <xubuntu19w> I can boot up to looks like grub, asks me to pick a version, I get the xession login window on an otherwise black background (supposed to be blue with rodent?) and after log in there's only black, with the mouse pointer
[14:50] <cfhowlett> xubuntu19w, upgrade as in 14.04 >> 14.04.1   or 12.04 >> 14.04  ??
[14:50] <xubuntu19w> 12.04 to 14.04
[14:51] <cfhowlett> xubuntu19w, interrupted distro upgrade = unstable, unreliable system.  download the .iso, make a USB, clean install
[14:52] <xubuntu19w> that will kill all my files etc?
[14:53] <cfhowlett> ??? you mean your saved data?  in your /home?
[14:57] <xubuntu19w> yes /home and also tons of installations in /opt and /usr/*
[15:07] <cfhowlett> !home | xubuntu19w
[15:14] <xubuntu19w> my head hurts, but thanks, I'll give it a stab...
[15:35] <sergio-br2> ochosi, I'm merging that PR
[15:35] <sergio-br2> looks good
[15:39] <sergio-br2> btw, I'll try to help a little more in the project :p
[19:15] <xubuntu31w> How can i install the NTP support to make the clock syncronized with internet ? When i say yest to install the NTP it will not let install.
[19:20] <bekks> xubuntu31w: So which command do you use to "say yes to install"?
[19:21] <xubuntu31w> I goto settings time and date settings. In configuration i set it to sync with internet.
[19:22] <krytarik> xubuntu31w: LP bug 1270090 - and there you go: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/NTP.html
[19:24] <xubuntu31w> I guess it is fixed after 14.04.
[19:24] <xubuntu31w> I amusing 14.04.3
[19:24] <krytarik> xubuntu31w: Yes - 15.04 more specifically.
[19:26] <xubuntu31w> Is it works if i do it in terminal ?
[19:26] <krytarik> Should, yes.
[19:29] <xubuntu31w> I think it works now.
[20:07] <xubuntu1> folks how does one determine their cpu 32/64-bit ness?
[20:08] <xubuntu1> cat /proc/cpuinfo shows "32 bits physical, 48 bits virtual"
[20:09] <holstein> xubuntu1: i usually just load the live 64bit iso, and if it works, i install.. since, thats what i prefer. but,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/37159/is-my-processor-64-or-32-bit
[20:09] <holstein> ideally, from windows, you can look.. otherwise, since you need to load a live iso to see if the CPU is either, just loading a 64bit iso will give you the info you need..
[20:09] <xubuntu1> holstein: thanks. this is an old netbook, so I assume probably 32-bit. running xubuntu 13 atm.
[20:10] <xubuntu1> I'll use the link you posted.
[20:10] <holstein> basically, TLDR, is run "lscpu"
[20:11] <holstein> for me, the amount or ram can dictate.. and, on an older machine, it wont matter, at all.. anyways
[20:11] <xubuntu1> floating point exception. cored dumpted, lol
[20:11] <xubuntu1> firefox
[20:11] <xubuntu1> doh
[20:11] <holstein> its not like, you are going to be doing any compiling that you will benefit from 64bit.. using multiple cores.. or, using over 4 GB's of ram.. etc
[20:12] <xubuntu1> it's a netbook. it will barely run firefox.
[20:12] <xubuntu1> and if firefox keeps "improving", it won't even run tht.
[20:12] <holstein> sure.. but, 64bit vs 32bit.. its not going to address that
[20:12] <holstein> and, thats likely more related to flash, or the web content..
[20:13] <xubuntu1> well, I was just agreeing that it's not going to be doing a lot of work anyway, so it's not like more ram or more cores are needed.
[20:13] <holstein> what would i do? simply load the live 3bit iso, and dont rely on web sources for the testing of compatibility.. see that audio works, and NIC.. etc
[20:13] <xubuntu1> xubuntu 13 works just fine. I just wanted to redo the system clean.
[20:13] <xubuntu1> so I know drivers will be all good.
[20:14] <holstein> well, you actually dont know that, til you load the newer kernel..
[20:14] <xubuntu1> well, that's true. I have had issues just updatin the kernel before.
[20:14] <holstein> 13.04 and 13.10 are EOL, though.. so, i would move on to 14.04, or 15.04..
[20:14] <xubuntu1> yeah, all debian based distro becoming "obsolete" after 1yr is becoming a big chore.
[20:15] <holstein> ?
[20:15] <holstein> 14.04 xubuntu is supported for 3 years.. and the main ubuntu repos for 5
[20:15] <xubuntu1> you have to keep re-installing your OS. even tho they say, "you can upgrade!!", but all documentation says, "upgrade isn't relaiable. re-install"
[20:15] <xubuntu1> yeah, the LTS ones are a nice break.
[20:15] <holstein> so, the 14.04 repos will not be "obsolete" til 2019..
[20:15] <xubuntu1> I don't think non-canonical distro have started doing that much
[20:15] <Unit193> xubuntu1: I upgrade, been doing so for a little.
[20:15] <holstein> !eolupgrade
[20:16] <holstein> you can, if you are running 13.10, just upgrade to 14.04..
[20:16] <xubuntu1> Unit193: I did a few times it just broke a few things. and then people say oh re-install.
[20:16] <sergio-br2> what's the default size of the top panel?
[20:16] <holstein> you can *always* reinstall...
[20:16] <xubuntu1> upgrades always leave something b0rked.
[20:16] <sergio-br2> the battery icon is strange for a while
[20:16] <xubuntu1> as soon as my torrent is done, I'll do the 15.
[20:16] <Unit193> xubuntu1: They're better than they used to be, that's for sure.  But Sigma's been going fine since 11.04.
[20:16] <holstein> xubuntu1: not *always*.. though, you can prefer and do a fresh install.. i prefer it as well
[20:17] <xubuntu1> holstein: like 8.1 to win10 auto upgrade... eh, I want a clean system.
[20:17] <holstein> xubuntu1: this is xubuntu.. EOL 13.10, potentially, if thats what you are running, to 14.04.. which, is a well tested path
[20:17] <xubuntu1> now, I"m assuming I don't have to burn the iso to a usb. I can just mount and run the install?
[20:17] <xubuntu1> or no, I'd still have to make a bootable usb stick?
[20:17] <holstein> xubuntu1: all im saying is, you can fresh install *anytime*.. after trying the upgrade, or not.. but, dont assume its going to break..
[20:18] <holstein> i personally like to load the iso for the version im installing.. especially on older hardware.. to get an idea of what i will need to do to help the hardware support linux
[20:18] <xubuntu1> holstein: understood. this system had a bunch of crap installed for different toolchains that I ws building. Now, I'm re-installing to have a minimal env setup.
[20:19] <holstein> sure.. go for it
[20:19] <xubuntu1> so can I just mount the iso and run the installer?
[20:19] <holstein> to reinstall.. you'll do *exactly* what it is for a normal installation
[20:19] <holstein> !install
[20:19] <holstein> what do i do? download the latest iso for the version i prefer, and make either a USB stick, or DVD.. depending on what the hardware boots..
[20:19] <xubuntu1> ok, let me quickly go read the link. brb.
[20:20] <xubuntu1> ah, I do a usb stick but lately all the sticks I've been using have been crapping out. just need to buy a few ore.
[20:20] <xubuntu1> *more
[20:27] <xubuntu1> alright rebooting to install. thanks for the help guys...
[20:39] <ochosi> sergio-br2: ty and wb