[00:33] <CooloutAC> holstein: i saw that thread,  none of those options work for me
[00:33] <CooloutAC> i have no whoopsie in /etc/default,   and apt-get purge or remove wants to remove lubuntu
[00:34] <CooloutAC> i also don't see a system settings,privac, diagnostics option in lxde
[00:54] <ianorlyn> CooloutAC: you are on 15.04 at least right
[00:54] <CooloutAC> ianorlyn: ya
[00:54] <ianorlyn> think documentation might not have been updated for systemd yet
[00:54] <ianorlyn> maybe try sudo systemctl disable whoopsie.service
[00:55] <CooloutAC> ya tried it
[00:56] <ianorlyn> did not work?
[00:56] <CooloutAC> no,  well I didn't put .service not sure that would matter
[00:56] <CooloutAC> i did do sudo stop whoopsie which went through
[00:56] <CooloutAC> but it was still running when i did service --status-all
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[12:09] <randomuser_> Just wondering if anyone can help me. Installed Lubuntu 14.04.3 and everything is fine except that I can't connect to a PPTP VPN server. I can do it with my Windows box. Here's my var/log/syslog: http://pastebin.com/Ns6dxkKa
[12:19] <phillw> tsimonq2: you rang?
[12:19] <tsimonq2> randomuser_: You would probably get better help over at #ubuntu
[12:19] <tsimonq2> randomuser_: On this specific subject
[12:24] <randomuser_> tsimonq2: thanks for responding. I did that, didn't get any reply, or at least not yet. I may need to ask this in reddit.
[12:27] <phillw> randomuser_: please repeat the question, tsimonq2 called me in to see if i could be of assistance.
[12:29] <randomuser_> phillw: wow thanks! I Installed Lubuntu 14.04.3 64-bit and everything is fine except that I can't connect to a PPTP VPN server. I can do it with my Windows box http://pastebin.com/Ns6dxkKa
[12:29] <randomuser_> the pastebin is my /var/log/syslog
[12:31] <phillw> randomuser_: this is pretty recent post, and certainly worth a read and possible try.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/642456/cant-connect-to-pptp-vpn-server
[12:32] <randomuser_> phillw: i actually did that and still got the same problem
[12:33] <phillw> randomuser_: then have a read of http://blog.geeky.name/post/2011/03/17/PPTP%3A-Ubuntu-Client-connect-to-Windows-VPN-Server
[12:34] <randomuser_> also did that :(
[12:34] <Kamilion> randomuser_: the error message is pretty clear
[12:34] <randomuser_> i also made sure there's no whitespace int he gatewat address section as there seems to be a bug with whitespaces
[12:34] <Kamilion> "invalid gateway 'gateway'"
[12:35] <randomuser_> just this morning i actually tried the 32-bit version inside vmware workstation (from a different place, tho) and it worked without problem
[12:36] <randomuser_> i may need to try 32-bit on this machine to make sure this only happens to 64-bit version...
[12:37] <Kamilion> PPTP is quite finicky
[12:38] <Kamilion> randomuser_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/620748/pptp-vpn-not-working-on-ubuntu-15-04-but-works-on-ubuntu-14-04-10
[12:39] <Kamilion> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1452941
[12:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1452941 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "PPTP VPN fails to connect in 15.04, but works in 14.04/14.10" [High,Confirmed]
[12:39] <Kamilion> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733296
[12:39] <ubottu> Gnome bug 733296 in VPN: PPTP "networkmanager-pptp add route fails" [Normal,New]
[12:41] <randomuser_> are they the same bug? seems like it shows up with different error msg
[12:43] <randomuser_> k i'll whip up both 32-bot and 64-bit in vm and see if i encounter same prob\
[12:52] <Kamilion> not the same bug, but the gnome bug was linked in the comments of the launchpad bug
[14:00] <randomuser_> hmmm interesting
[14:01] <randomuser_> both 32-bit and 64-bit have the same problem
[14:01] <randomuser_> i'm starting to suspect i broke something when i uninstall a lot of apps after fresh install
[14:54] <Kamilion> randomuser_: possible.
[14:54] <Kamilion> I do the same thing.
[14:54] <Kamilion> kill off abiword and gnumeric
[14:54] <Kamilion> as well as a bunch of media libraries I don't need on a server
[14:55] <osvarelar> hello
[14:57] <Kamilion> o/
[15:08] <randomuser_> ok i tried them again n double checked. Fresh i386 would connect, amd64 wouldn't
[15:09] <Kamilion> huh.
[15:10] <Kamilion> as I said, PPTP is quite finicky :/
[15:12] <Kamilion> https://github.com/pritunl paired with some modifications to the https://github.com/proxysh clients would probably work out better.
[15:12] <Kamilion> or, well, just use putty/kitty and SSH forwarding from windows, and SSH VPN from other *nixs
[15:13] <Kamilion> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VPN_over_SSH   <--- one of the better guides
[15:15] <teward> Kamilion: 15.04 PPTP not working or something?
[15:15]  * teward pulls up his 15.04 env
[15:15] <Kamilion> randomuser_'s experience seems to indicate so
[15:15] <randomuser_> i'm using 14.04.3
[15:15] <teward> hmm
[15:16] <teward> randomuser_: and you experience the issue there?
[15:16] <randomuser_> yes. but it only applies to the 64-bit version
[15:17] <teward> thankfully i have a 14.04 VM I can test on
[15:17] <teward> AND a known-to-work PPTP VPN server :P
[15:18] <randomuser_> haven't used irc for a while now. modern emoji for irc would be nice
[15:19] <randomuser_> can
[15:19] <randomuser_> cant do a thumbs up
[15:20] <teward> randomuser_: give me a minute to update the VM, been a while since it's been running (so I'm pulling in all the updates).  It's a 14.04.2 system but once upgrades to packages are done it should match, i think
[15:20]  * teward is also downloading a .3 ISO now
[15:20] <randomuser_> ok. Thanks for your trouble!
[15:20] <teward> no trouble at all
[15:20] <teward> i'm also testing my RPi with the same setup, HOPEFULLY it works :P
[15:20] <teward> (because 15.04, although not Lubuntu :/)
[15:21] <teward> (network manager is still network manager xD0
[15:21] <teward> randomuser_: i don't have all the scrollback, what do you see when you try to VPN?
[15:21] <randomuser_> http://pastebin.com/Ns6dxkKa
[15:26] <teward> installing VPn plugins now lol
[15:26] <teward> then a VM restart for the kernel :)
[15:34] <teward> randomuser_: i can't replicate from here... :/
[15:35] <randomuser_> :(
[15:35] <randomuser_> which packages did you install to enable your pptp connection?
[15:38] <teward> network-manager-pptp and dependencies.  I can't establish PPTP connection at all though... give me a second
[15:39] <teward> tail your entire syslog though
[15:39] <teward> because pptp and pppd give data
[15:45] <teward> looks like even good pptp connections aren't working in Lubuntu 14.04.2
[15:46] <teward> let me test my main Ubuntu
[15:46] <teward> brb
[15:50] <randomuser_> http://pastebin.com/GTcddEyQ
[16:01] <teward> randomuser_: i hate to ask, but why pptp?
[16:02] <randomuser_> yeah, i figured the question will pop out. Unfortunately the vpn server is out side my control
[16:03] <teward> allow me to point out the idiocy of PPTP since MSCHAP and other encrypted auth methods, (others are plaintext on PPTP) are cracked
[16:04] <teward> randomuser_: well, even with a valid server, I can't get PPTP to connect.  TBH I like OpenVPN better :P
[16:06] <randomuser_> i guess this has to wait until at least next year to resolve
[16:09] <randomuser_> the vpn server is a friend's router. i believe it won't run openvpn. Gotta wait until i fly there and either mod the router or replace it.
[16:10] <teward> randomuser_: so, just using it to proxy?
[16:10] <teward> or to get into their net lol
[16:11] <randomuser_> yeah, mostly to buy games
[16:12] <randomuser_> internet infrastructure there is really slow anyway.
[16:37] <randomuser_> going to sleep now. Thanks guys for the inputs!
[16:37] <holstein> o/
[16:52] <Freddie_Mercury> So I installed the Typhoon weather widget on Lubuntu 14.04 LTS; however, whener I run it, it takes up a space in the task bar as if it were a full program and not just a widget confined to the desktop.
[16:52] <Freddie_Mercury> How do I fix that?
[16:52] <Freddie_Mercury> http://www.noobslab.com/2014/05/typhoon-conky-alternative-widget.html <<< This is what I got.
[16:52] <wxl> afaik, that's a problem with the widget, Freddie_Mercury
[16:53] <Freddie_Mercury> I see, wxl.
[16:53] <Freddie_Mercury> Thing is, I watched people on YouTube giving instructions on how to download it, and their widget seems to behave like a widget should. o.0
[16:53] <Freddie_Mercury> It's what confuses me.
[16:54] <wxl> on lubuntu?
[16:54] <wxl> and/or on a system with lxde?
[16:55] <Freddie_Mercury> No, iirc this was vanilla Ubuntu with GNOME and Unity.
[16:55] <Freddie_Mercury> Is that important?
[16:55] <wxl> absolutely essential.
[16:55] <Freddie_Mercury> o.o
[16:55] <Freddie_Mercury> I see.
[16:55] <wxl> if you get ubuntu it will work fine XD
[16:56] <Freddie_Mercury> ...there's an issue with that; I kind of want to avoid Unity.
[16:56] <Freddie_Mercury> Maybe I'll try on Xubuntu, I dunno.
[16:56] <wxl> i doubt it will be much better
[16:56] <wxl> it's probably made for gnome
[16:56] <wxl> most are, in general
[16:56] <Freddie_Mercury> ._.
[16:57] <Freddie_Mercury> Is this why when I tried Conky it was buggy as hell?
[16:57] <wxl> nope
[16:57] <Freddie_Mercury> ._.
[17:05] <Freddie_Mercury> Anyway, I'm checking out another weather widget: http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/gis-weather-widget-updated-and-now.html
[17:05] <Freddie_Mercury> This one seems to work better.
[17:06] <wxl> Freddie_Mercury: yay! yeah. that's kind of the problem with the different desktop environments. they don't share the same pieces and those that do don't necessarily work the same way.
[17:06] <wxl> Freddie_Mercury: a good widget developer thinks about all of them, but that's sometimes asking too much XD
[17:06] <Freddie_Mercury> wtf? Now this widget disappears when I iconify all windows. :|
[17:06] <Freddie_Mercury> Why does the *widget* disappear?
[17:07] <wxl> that's utterly bizarre
[17:07] <wxl> again a widget problem :(
[17:07] <Freddie_Mercury> xD
[17:13] <phillw> Freddie_Mercury: use the weather applet that comes with lubuntu :)
[17:14] <Freddie_Mercury> Where is that.
[17:15] <phillw> Freddie_Mercury: right click on the task bar, Add / Remove Panel Items, Panel Applets, Add .... select weather applet and configure, click 'add' then use the up / Down to position it where you want it
[17:16] <phillw> You'll find lots of little applets that you can add without having to try adding other stuff on top of the system :)
[17:24] <Freddie_Mercury> phillw: Wow. O.O
[17:24] <Freddie_Mercury> This is all new to me.
[17:27] <Freddie_Mercury> phillw, there's a small issue; apparently, there's no 'weather applet' option when I press "Add"...
[17:27] <Freddie_Mercury> phillw: This is what I see. http://i.imgur.com/Qo3L9lN.png
[17:30] <phillw> Ahh, must not be in your version :(
[17:30] <Freddie_Mercury> I use Lubuntu 14.04 LTS.
[17:32] <phillw> I'm on a newer version
[17:32] <Freddie_Mercury> 15.04?
[17:32] <phillw> 15.10 ... I'm a tester, not sure when weather applet was added though.
[17:32] <Freddie_Mercury> I don't understand; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/917360 << This is a bug from a Lubuntu version from a while ago.
[17:32] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 917360 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "weather applet doesn't show temperature Lubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:33] <Freddie_Mercury> Ubuntu 12.10 is what one of the persons there reports.
[17:33] <Freddie_Mercury> So, what, they removed it, and put it back...?
[17:33] <phillw> or it got fixed and re-added.
[17:34] <Freddie_Mercury> Maybe that bug made them remove it.
[17:34] <Freddie_Mercury> And now it's fixed and back in your version.
[17:34] <phillw> if it is working in 15.10 it will be included in 16.04 LTS which you will be able to upgrade to when it comes out.
[17:34] <Freddie_Mercury> lol
[17:34] <Freddie_Mercury> "When it comes out".
[17:34] <Freddie_Mercury> That will ... take a bit. :P
[17:34] <phillw> no clean way to go from 14.04 to 15.10 ... Sorry.
[17:35] <Freddie_Mercury> I know. ._.
[17:35] <Freddie_Mercury> But, it's OK. This is a production/service laptop, not a testing machine.
[17:35] <Freddie_Mercury> I needed a stable version.
[18:11] <ibouvousaime_> how can I disable the alt+click and drag shortcut to move windows ?
[20:58] <suncokret> hello... when i change and rewrite some shortcut in "/usr/share/applications", how can i refresh shortcuts menu?
[21:36] <noahmg123> I am having trouble pairing my Bluetooth headset. I can connect to the headset service but no sound outputs to the headset
[21:37] <ianorlyn> suncokret: I know a  reboot or logging back out and logging back in will probably work but not sure what exactly you need to restart
[21:38] <wxl> i know there are different profiles for bluetooth
[21:38] <wxl> the headset needs to have the right profile in order for it to work as intended
[21:39] <wxl> perhaps it doesn't see what it expects?
[21:39] <wxl> noahmg123: ↑
[21:39] <wxl> i actually have a bluetooth speaker that doesn't work with my laptop for that reason
[21:39] <suncokret> so i need to log out?
[21:39] <wxl> my phones see it fine
[21:39] <suncokret> i can't refresh it without log out?
[21:39] <noahmg123> wxl: I am not sure what you mean. What should I do?
[21:40] <wxl> noahmg123: what i'm saying is i'm not sure you'll be able to do anything. however, the issue is not necessarly lubuntu-specific. you may want to check with the folks at #ubuntu and see if they can provide any help.
[21:42] <noahmg123> wxl: ok. Also, I have the issue now that youtube videos (or any other web players) will not play at all. they display, but do not go forward. This happened on my laptop whenever I run jack but jack is not running on this computer. What should I do?
[21:42] <noahmg123> A restart normally fixes it but I do not want to do that.
[21:42] <wxl> !alsamixer
[21:42] <wxl> fooey
[21:42] <wxl> noahmg123: well, alsamixer
[21:43] <noahmg123> wxl: what about it? Run the command?
[21:43] <wxl> noahmg123: that's your sound server, so yep.
[21:44] <noahmg123> ok wait a minute. I may just have to restart chrome. I'll try that soon.
[21:49] <suncokret> how can i set working directory for some program in shorcut in /usr/share/applications? some programs which are not installed work fine with app shortcut, and some have errors to find files which are in directory where are program
[22:04] <wxl> hello
[22:04] <wxl> oops