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| flexiondotorg | didrocks, If you have a moment can I ask a favour? Please can you update the ubuntu-mate-meta package? | 07:32 |
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| didrocks | flexiondotorg: looks good to me, but did you discuss it with the release team to get a FFe or such? | 07:37 |
| didrocks | (there is little rationale in the commit message for the seed addition) | 07:38 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks, I haven't because this is new ground. Need some advice. | 07:38 |
| flexiondotorg | The packages were updated recently in the archive. | 07:38 |
| flexiondotorg | These version are now compatible with Ubuntu MATE. | 07:38 |
| flexiondotorg | So, I'd like to include them in Ubuntu MATE. | 07:38 |
| flexiondotorg | I wasn't sure if I needed a FFe to add package to Ubuntu MATE that are already in the archive? | 07:39 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: it's still a new product "feature" (by default). Should be easy to get it acked, but still worth getting a FFe for it | 07:39 |
| flexiondotorg | OK | 07:39 |
| * flexiondotorg goes to file a bug. | 07:39 | |
| didrocks | the rationale is "it's easy to get back if we see the feature being really broken and needing to be reverted" | 07:39 |
| didrocks | (and so, won't delay the whole Ubuntu release) | 07:40 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks, Thanks for your help. How does this look? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-meta/+bug/1497880 | 07:46 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1497880 in ubuntu-mate-meta (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please update ubuntu-mate-meta package" [Undecided,New] | 07:46 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: I guess a rationale about what's the added value for the feature will be appreciated by the release team | 07:49 |
| didrocks | otherwise, the rest is good :) | 07:49 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks, Opening post edited accordingly :-) | 08:01 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: excellent! | 08:03 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks, Can I get an ack on that? ;-) | 08:04 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: I'm not part of the release team, so get someone from that team :) | 08:04 |
| didrocks | (archive admin team/MIR team for me, a little bit different) | 08:04 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks, Ah, sorry. I thought you were. | 08:05 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks, Thanks for helping. | 08:05 |
| didrocks | no worry! | 08:05 |
| ogra_ | would someone be so kind and let linux-raspi2 (and meta) out of NEW ? | 09:18 |
| didrocks | ogra_: happy to review and to ack once the release team acked the FFe | 09:22 |
| didrocks | (which should be a one minute thing for new packages :p) | 09:23 |
| ogra_ | hmm, who does universe approval nowadays ? Laney ? | 09:34 |
| Laney | no | 09:36 |
| Laney | all of the release team does all packages | 09:37 |
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| flexiondotorg | didrocks, Can you update ubuntu-mate-meta for me please? I have an "OK" from Laney :-) | 11:32 |
| flexiondotorg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-meta/+bug/1497880 | 11:32 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: sure, doing! | 11:33 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1497880 in ubuntu-mate-meta (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please update ubuntu-mate-meta package" [Medium,Triaged] | 11:33 |
| flexiondotorg | ogra_, I'll be testing that linux-raspi2 stuff this week :-) | 11:33 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks, Thanks. | 11:33 |
| didrocks | yw! | 11:33 |
| ogra_ | flexiondotorg, well, i'd like to release the snappy RPi image today :) the package sits in the queue since 5 days already ... should be ripened enough to move on ;) | 11:34 |
| flexiondotorg | ogra_, Great. | 11:34 |
| flexiondotorg | ogra_, As you may know we make a build of Ubuntu MATE for the Pi 2. | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | (i could just pull the binary from the kernel team PPA, snappy doesnt really care, but i'd rather not to if the package moves to the archive soon anway) | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | flexiondotorg, good luck with that :) | 11:35 |
| flexiondotorg | It is the most popular version. More downloads than all other architecture put togther. | 11:35 |
| * ogra_ is happy he doesnt have to jump through all these hoops anymore, snappy makes HW support so much easier | 11:35 | |
| flexiondotorg | Downloaded ~1,000 times per day. | 11:35 |
| flexiondotorg | ogra_, When 15.10 is done I really want to invest some time learning Snappy. | 11:36 |
| apw | ogra_, hoops that are there to help maintain consistancy and sanity, those being removed is not necessarily a good thing | 11:42 |
| ogra_ | apw, well, building the device tarball from archive packages keeps that consistency and sanity somehow | 11:43 |
| apw | ogra_, and in that case you had to jump the hoops | 11:43 |
| ogra_ | well, i was more referring to the splitting of software for the system(rootfs) and the hardware (kernel/bootloader) | 11:44 |
| ogra_ | being able to maintain and upgrade them separately makes porting really a breeze | 11:45 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks, Thanks for ubuntu-mate-meta. | 12:55 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: yw! | 12:55 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, I've noticed all the ISO images, for all flavours, have grown considerably since 15.10 Beta 1. | 12:56 |
| flexiondotorg | About 200MB to 400MB larger. | 12:56 |
| flexiondotorg | What is the cause? | 12:56 |
| Laney | don't know, sorry | 12:58 |
| Laney | Compare the .manifest files and see if anything reveals itself | 12:58 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, I'll investigate. | 12:58 |
| Laney | I looked at xubuntu and it seemed to be 1.1G both times | 12:59 |
| flexiondotorg | Kubuntu was 1.3 now 1.7 | 13:01 |
| flexiondotorg | Ubuntu MATE was 1.1 and is now 1.5. | 13:02 |
| flexiondotorg | Ubuntu GNOME was 1.1 now 1.5 | 13:04 |
| Laney | Probably best to investigate rather than check all of the flavours. | 13:04 |
| flexiondotorg | Yep, will investigate but just illustrating there is a jump. | 13:04 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, something is pulling in Latex and a heaps of fonts. | 13:12 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll find out what. | 13:12 |
| * flexiondotorg is zsyncing, which is slow because rural shortware radio internet. | 13:13 | |
| flexiondotorg | Kubuntu, Ubuntu MATE and Ubuntu GNOME have all aquired the same fonts and latex package since Beta 1. | 13:21 |
| flexiondotorg | Lubuntu and Xubuntu are unaffected. | 13:21 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, texlive-full is being pulled in by germinate for Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu GNOME and Kubuntu. But I can't find a reason why. | 13:51 |
| flexiondotorg | Stock Ubuntu is affected also. | 13:52 |
| seb128 | is that still an issue or was it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ghostscript/9.16~dfsg~0-0ubuntu3 ? | 13:52 |
| flexiondotorg | seb128, I'm looking at todays germinate log and todays daily images. | 13:53 |
| Laney | I don't see it on the pending Ubuntu image | 13:54 |
| Laney | which has 0ubuntu3 | 13:54 |
| Laney | try a respin? | 13:54 |
| Laney | seb128: thanks for info | 13:54 |
| flexiondotorg | Ubuntu MATE has no-follow-recommends enabled. | 13:55 |
| flexiondotorg | So should never have encountered this. | 13:55 |
| flexiondotorg | texlive-base is show is being required by every flavour using apt-show. | 13:56 |
| flexiondotorg | OK, I'll re-spin. | 13:57 |
| davmor2 | infinity, cyphermox: Did 15.10 get the "fix" for the broadcom driver again? I don't see it visible in driver updates on the live session like normal. I'm running an install to double check if 3rd party drivers installs it | 14:30 |
| cyphermox | the "fix" for broadcom? | 14:31 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: removal of bcmwl for the free drivers that never actually work seemingly | 14:31 |
| cyphermox | davmor2: do you remember the bug for last time? I have no idea what was changed | 14:33 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: the issue we had to fix for 14.04 point release | 14:33 |
| cyphermox | I'll try to reproduce it from the bug and do ~ the same thing | 14:33 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: one second | 14:33 |
| cyphermox | ok | 14:33 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1481018 | 14:34 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1481018 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Trusty) "DELL XPS 13: bcmwl-kernel-source not installed when 3rd party drivers is selected so no wifi and no ethernet port either" [High,Fix released] | 14:35 |
| cyphermox | ok, cool | 14:37 |
| cyphermox | I'll look at it in a bit | 14:37 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: in additional drivers all I see is mircocode firmware for the intel cpu | 14:40 |
| cyphermox | ok. | 14:40 |
| * cyphermox looks | 14:40 | |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: this is what I get from the live desktop trying to install it http://paste.ubuntu.com/12514642/ | 14:54 |
| cyphermox | isn't that different though? that's a network issue | 14:55 |
| cyphermox | or do you have no network because no wifi? | 14:56 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, After an ISO respin Ubuntu MATE is the correct size again. | 15:03 |
| cyphermox | davmor2: to answer your question, the fix is there already | 15:12 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: no network because the xps only has wifi, however that has the cd enabled so in theory should install it from there if everything is working correctly | 15:13 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: :( | 15:13 |
| cyphermox | hm | 15:13 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: I wonder if it isn't compatible with the latest kernel | 15:14 |
| cyphermox | that's not what it was complaining about though | 15:14 |
| cyphermox | can you file a new bug and include /etc/apt/sources.list from the system? | 15:14 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: sure | 15:14 |
| cyphermox | then try to update and try it again too | 15:14 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: I'm going to try putting on the usb key again, I'll also double check there are no issues with hte image too | 15:15 |
| cyphermox | seems to me like maybe the CD is not enabled, or we don't have bcmwl on the CD... at least the files look to be on the CD | 15:15 |
| cyphermox | maybe it's not so happy when you use USB rather than a real CD? | 15:16 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: so MD5sums match so I'll readd it to the usb pendrive | 15:21 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: no choice xps13 only has usb ports | 15:22 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: and it worked on the 14.04 point release | 15:22 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:23 |
| cyphermox | well it didn't seem to try looking on the USB drive at all | 15:23 |
| cyphermox | brb, | 15:23 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: indeed and that is disturbing | 15:24 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: right found it on the pendrive /media/davmor2/Ubuntu 15.10 amd64/pool/restricted/b/bcmwl/bcmwl-kernel-source_6.30.223.248+bdcom-0ubuntu4.1_amd64.deb so it is there so I will retry with this fresh image | 15:28 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: and still not showing up | 15:30 |
| flocculant | infinity: you got any idea what sort of time the images will be frozen for beta tomorrow ? | 15:34 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: so I have a screenshot of what I see, the apt/sources.list anything else I need to drop onto usb key to copy it over here? | 15:34 |
| infinity | flocculant: Oh, look at that, I'm doing a beta this week. Whee. I'll have to get my ducks in a row and sort that out today. | 15:45 |
| flocculant | :) | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | infinity, is there a chnce i could get the rpi kernel package out of the new queue soon ? | 15:46 |
| infinity | ogra_: It needs a proper review for potential copyright issues, etc. I'll try to get to it today during sessions. | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | cool., thanks ! | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | (i think it is the same source as -generic, just different config, not 100% sure though, rtg will know) | 15:48 |
| rtg | ogra_, nope, it is only based on our kernel sources, but there are a bunch of patches on top, | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | ah | 15:50 |
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| infinity | ogra_: Yeah, if it was the same source, it wouldn't be a new source package. | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | indeed | 15:57 |
| infinity | rtg: If that's based on master + patches, can it have an identical orig to master, instead of being native? | 15:59 |
| infinity | rtg: Pretty please? | 15:59 |
| infinity | rtg: Makes it 1000% easier to immediately see the delta without involving git. | 15:59 |
| rtg | infinity, sure, wanna reject while I re-upload ? | 16:00 |
| infinity | rtg: (This is how we do keystone) | 16:00 |
| infinity | rtg: Yeahp. | 16:00 |
| infinity | rtg: It also shouldn't need the weird large int ABI number. I thought we fixed everywhere where those conflict and made that necessary. | 16:01 |
| infinity | apw: ^ | 16:01 |
| infinity | Yeah, everything it produces has the flavour in the name, so no need for the weird ABI. | 16:01 |
| apw | as long as it has its own flavour number | 16:01 |
| infinity | (Not that it matters either. | 16:01 |
| rtg | infinity, I didn't really study the version too closely since ppisati did the original packaging. it seemed to work. | 16:01 |
| infinity | ) | 16:01 |
| infinity | apw: The reason for it used to be because we produced an unflavoured linux-headers-common from every flavour, and they conflicted. | 16:02 |
| infinity | apw: But now linux-headers-flavour depends on linux-flavour-headers (which isn't confusing naming at all), so the ABI conflict is gone. | 16:02 |
| apw | infinity, right indeed, and now its <srcpackge>-headers | 16:03 |
| apw | infinity, that sounds wrong | 16:03 |
| infinity | rtg: Anyhow, it works either way, and I don't really care. But I'll reject for the lack of orig. | 16:03 |
| apw | infinity, its not flavour, its <srcpkgname>-headers ... whcih just happens to look like the flavour | 16:04 |
| infinity | apw: Nah, it's not wrong, just the way I described it is wrong (it's src-headers, indeed, which just happens to be linux-flavour-headers in a single-flavour source) | 16:04 |
| apw | as it is common to all flavours in the package | 16:04 |
| infinity | apw: Jinx. | 16:04 |
| apw | mmmmmmmm mm mmm | 16:04 |
| * rtg repackages with an orig tarball... | 16:04 | |
| infinity | rtg: Identical orig (hardlinking is love) to master, please. | 16:05 |
| davmor2 | infinity, cyphermox: filed it against bcmwl even though it is some other system. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1498074 | 16:05 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1498074 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "Package is not being installed if you install from a usb pendrive created from disks" [Undecided,New] | 16:05 |
| rtg | infinity, raspi2 is back in the NEW queue | 16:21 |
| davmor2 | infinity: cyphermox: oh interesting, the intel microcode that I have as an option it install is in the same restricted folder as the bcmwl driver | 16:46 |
| davmor2 | so now I have no idea why the bcmwl driver isn't available | 16:47 |
| infinity | davmor2: Define "available". apt can't find it, or ubuntu-drivers doesn't tell you you need it? | 16:49 |
| davmor2 | infinity: if I try and install it from the cli it says that it can't access the repos and ignores the cdrom (usb pendrive pretending to be the cdrom) I haven't look at what ubuntu-drivers says is there a command for that | 16:50 |
| davmor2 | infinity: sudo ubuntu-drivers list just shows intel-microcode | 16:52 |
| infinity | davmor2: Okay, but if "apt-get instlal blah" doesn't work, that could be why ubuntu-drivers isn't showing it (since it builds the list based on the intersection of your hardware, internal blacklists, and what's in the apt cache). | 16:54 |
| davmor2 | infinity: if I do apt search bcmwl-kernel-source that appears | 16:56 |
| infinity | davmor2: But apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source does...? | 16:56 |
| davmor2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12514642/ | 16:56 |
| infinity | davmor2: apt-cache policy bcmwl-kernel-source | 16:57 |
| davmor2 | infinity: version in the repos is newer than the version on the cd | 16:58 |
| infinity | davmor2: Okay, so that's an ISO building oops. | 16:59 |
| infinity | davmor2: It'll solve itself (or I'll hit it with a hammer). | 16:59 |
| davmor2 | infinity: repos 0ubuntu5 and iso is 0ubuntu4.1 | 16:59 |
| infinity | davmor2: Yeah, we hit the hilarious locking bug where the ftp mirror on cdimage hasn't updated for a few days. | 17:00 |
| infinity | davmor2: So the livefs is up-to-date, but the packages in /pool/ on the ISO are a few days out. | 17:00 |
| * infinity fixes. | 17:00 | |
| davmor2 | infinity: nice | 17:00 |
| davmor2 | infinity: so basically try again tomorrow | 17:01 |
| infinity | Yeah. Unless you're keen on testing sooner, I can force the issue. | 17:01 |
| davmor2 | infinity: It's 18:00 now I finish around 20:00 how long would new images take? | 17:02 |
| infinity | davmor2: Probably faster than that, but tomorrow makes more sense. | 17:02 |
| davmor2 | infinity: iso will be my main priority for the next few days and in particular the xps 13 so I'll hit it with a big hammer tomorrow | 17:03 |
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