[06:58] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:31] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:31] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[08:39] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:41] <davmor2> MooDoo: I'm thinking I must be after watch hudson hawk now I got swinging on a star stuck in my head
[08:44] <Myrtti> ooh, it's an OpenSourcerer
[08:46] <selinuxium> Hi all  o/
[08:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[08:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> Needed to jump on #reprapro to ask a question ;-)
[08:47] <selinuxium> 'lo TheOpenSourcerer.
[08:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> Morning all.
[08:48] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: good morning
[08:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> I spent most of yesterday helping my son to build this: https://reprappro.com/documentation/fisher-beta/
[08:49] <MooDoo> davmor2: great film
[08:52] <davmor2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8KvM3vZo0w
[09:06] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: oh, it arrived?
[09:06] <popey> I thought you'd ordered it, didn't realise you got it already
[09:06] <TheOpenSourcerer> Nah - Grandad bought it for him :-)
[09:06] <popey> ooh, it's a delta printer!
[09:06] <popey> nice
[09:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> I was very impressed with the build
[09:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> so far.
[09:07] <popey> how far did you get?
[09:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> Instructions were great, all the bits were nicely finished.
[09:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> We got to this stage: https://reprappro.com/documentation/fisher-beta/connecting-rods/
[09:07] <zmoylan-pi> that's a really elegant looking 3d printeer...
[09:08] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Miniature Golf Day! 😃
[09:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> We filmed the assembly using a frameapp so we have a 3minute video of about 5 hours assembly :-) James will be putting this on his blog shortly I think :-)
[09:09] <popey> i notice there's some missing photos on the wiki, might be useful to upload yours if they're good
[09:09] <popey> great way to contribute back before he's even finished his build
[09:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> I really enjoyed the build process. It's a very clever design and well thought out.
[09:22] <Myrtti> we should be getting a 3D printer soonish too. I've no idea what kind
[09:22] <Myrtti> I know we're going to have a PeachyPrinter too but this one that's supposedly (not really) been shipped is a normal filament kind. That's all I know
[09:24] <zmoylan-pi> as a d&d gamer we could use one to make a fair few models or critturs for our table top maps  generic ones to reduce the amount of monsters carried
[09:25] <Myrtti> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/m3d/the-micro-the-first-truly-consumer-3d-printer/description apparently
[09:26] <popey> that is cute looking
[09:26] <Myrtti> looking at it now, I'm starting to wonder if it will be able to print me a new case for my knitting machine that would accommodate the Arduino
[09:26] <zmoylan-pi> wouldn't the plastic be too soft?
[09:27] <Myrtti> oh it's not for storing the knitting machine
[09:27] <zmoylan-pi> ah, my bad
[09:27] <Myrtti> it's to replace an ABS cover that I've had to take off to take the old controls off and to connect the Arduino instead
[10:13] <zmoylan-pi> right, coffee and biccie...
[10:28] <NET||abuse> how do i see what commands a  launcher icon is using?
[10:28] <NET||abuse> there's no easy way to inspect the "shortcut" of a launcher
[10:28] <foobarry> have you seen this vid about the clock? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEmSwJTqpgY&app=desktop
[10:28] <foobarry> "if you think this is an invention , you've been fooled"
[10:28] <NET||abuse> eg.. i just upped from 14.10 to 15.04 yesterday on this laptop, and now spotify isn't launching, i get no error when i click on the icon, but to figure out what command it's running it's non-obvious how to debug the issue,
[10:28] <MooDoo> oh i read about that this morning...sigh
[10:28] <foobarry> "the clock is a commercial clock removed from its casing"
[10:30] <zmoylan-pi> o/ my first gizmos were broken things that i remounted on lego chassis to make operational again
[10:34] <shauno> seen a few of those vids now.  always priceless seeing the look of achievement on a grown adult's face when he manages to one-up a 14yo nerd.
[10:36] <popey> NET||abuse: look in /usr/share/applications for the spotify desktop file
[10:39] <NET||abuse> ah yeh, i know where the apps are as someone who's experienced with ubuntu, but i was just wondering was it the only way,
[10:39] <NET||abuse> it's not a very accessible interface is unity.
[10:41] <NET||abuse> even if it's neatly tucked away somewhere to not overload the user interface, there still should be a route to seeing what's behind a launcher icon. right click->properties type of thing, show me what command it's running, or let me modify the command it's running, or add a show in folder option, some way to show what's behind that icon.
[10:41] <NET||abuse> otherwise you just have to read up on the "conventions of unity" which if my programming days tought me anything, convention over configuration isn't always best
[10:42] <popey> indeed
[10:42] <NET||abuse> anyway, just ranting
[10:42] <popey> it was one of the first bugs I filed on unity
[10:42] <NET||abuse> :)
[10:43] <NET||abuse> i've just switched back from arch/gnome to ubuntu after 3 months, and gotta say, there's alot to like on the gnome side
[10:43] <NET||abuse> but in'm only 24 hours into it.. give it 2 weeks and i'll see how i feel.
[10:46] <Myrtti> NET||abuse: usually it's a foobar.desktop file
[10:46] <Myrtti> in /usr/share/applications/
[10:46] <Myrtti> oh, too late
[10:46] <Myrtti> popey was hiding behind quits and joins
[10:46] <NET||abuse> Myrtti: oh i know where they are, /usr/share/applications;/$HOME/.local/application
[10:46] <NET||abuse> s
[10:47] <Myrtti> I blame my lack of new glasses
[10:47] <NET||abuse> I was really just raising frustration with the opaqueness unity implements
[10:48] <NET||abuse> and that's what grinds my gears..
[10:48] <NET||abuse> back to you Tom!
[11:18] <popey> NET||abuse: bug 705007
[11:44] <NET||abuse> ahh, cheers popey
[15:58] <ujjain> I moved in the UK. I sent my new address to the electoral roll. Do I still have to inform both councils of an address chagne?
[16:00] <leecowdrey_> no - just the new council
[16:00] <leecowdrey_> they should use official form which updates the electoral roll
[17:09] <diddledan_> m00
[17:43] <davmor2> diddledan: you can't blag me there are eyes in that moo
[18:35] <diddledan_> davmor2: the eyes have it
[18:36]  * diddledan_ got coffee \o/
[18:41] <davmor2> diddledan_: just showing off now aren't you ;)
[18:42] <diddledan_> teehee
[19:23] <diddledan_> has anyone watched the fairly recent series 12 monkeys?
[19:23] <diddledan_> I've just started it - intriguing
[19:24] <diddledan_> I saw the film years ago and have forgotten pretty much everything about it
[20:43] <diddledan> Xack, just spotted your /msg (it was hidden where I wasn't looking) not sure how long ago you sent it, but just wanted to let you know it wasn't ignored, just missed.
[20:44] <Xack> diddledan: alright :)
[20:59] <popey>  .38
[21:40] <czajkowski> popey: ello
[21:51] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[21:51] <popey> yo
[22:11] <diddledan> popey: .38 gun calibre?
[22:14] <leecowdrey_> moles need .44
[22:17] <daftykins> ah a clients secretary's husband was telling me a great story of when Guernsey didn't have BBC2 or colour broadcasts yet, back in the 70s
[22:18] <daftykins> he said his brother, who was quite the electronics whizz, used to climb out on their roof to adjust a custom rigged antenna to let them watch films on BBC2 XD
[22:22] <diddledan> moles?
[22:24] <zmoylan-pi> just how dangerous is a cornered mole??
[22:30] <zmoylan-pi> do you need to nuke from orbit to be sure? :-)
[22:30] <daftykins> always.
[22:32]  * zmoylan-pi thanks the gods that moles drown in ireland...
[22:48] <daftykins> out of interest can you folks visit http://www.tigerdirect.com/ ? it's been totally blocked for months from Guernsey IPs
[23:05] <diddledan> daftykins, works here
[23:05] <daftykins> weird, i wonder why we're blocked
[23:12] <shauno> works here
[23:13] <shauno> (</aol>, but I am in a different country)
[23:18] <daftykins> :)
[23:19] <daftykins> oh i should try my VPN
[23:25] <daftykins> wow - https://www.dropbox.com/s/dq6jmjlcgwt7xhy/Screenshot_2015-09-22-00-20-57.png?dl=0
[23:25] <daftykins> can't even stop this from coming up after a browser cache clear
[23:27] <zmoylan-pi> tigerdirect works here in ireland on vodafone isp
[23:28] <daftykins> ty sir, i've email'd and asked what they have against rockdwellers :)
[23:29] <zmoylan-pi> maybe they sell clock parts... :-P
[23:29] <daftykins> XD
[23:31]  * zmoylan-pi gives daftykins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_F-91W#Claimed_use_in_terrorism as a condolence... :-P
[23:31] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: i best show it to my teacher right away!
[23:34] <zmoylan-pi> if you ping it what comes back?
[23:34] <daftykins> the TD domain?
[23:34] <zmoylan-pi> yeah
[23:34] <daftykins> well it's gotta be chatting to give me the web server error + the above
[23:34] <zmoylan-pi> 64 bytes from a23-200-102-69.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com (23.200.102.69): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=19.4 ms
[23:35] <zmoylan-pi> or is it been intercepted by isp...
[23:35] <daftykins> ooh i don't get an akamai CDN at all no
[23:35] <daftykins> 195.26.90.35 replies
[23:35] <zmoylan-pi> try using different dns?
[23:36] <daftykins> that should've been true of the phone test
[23:37] <daftykins> oh my laptop is back on my ISP DNS, hrmmz
[23:37] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi, that's crazay
[23:37] <zmoylan-pi> bad laptop ::smacks with rolled up newspaper:: bad!
[23:37] <diddledan> I used to own one of those watches
[23:37] <zmoylan-pi> security theatre...
[23:38] <diddledan> I guess I'm a bad actor
[23:38] <zmoylan-pi> my last casio watch had a game
[23:38] <daftykins> ah no the above IP was .co.uk
[23:38] <daftykins> 78.152.57.137 i get for .com
[23:39] <zmoylan-pi> .co.uk gets 64 bytes from webfwd.daily.co.uk (195.26.90.35): icmp_seq=7 ttl=51 time=37.3 ms
[23:40] <diddledan> I really like the "insane" girl in 12 monkeys
[23:40] <diddledan> she's fun
[23:41] <daftykins> now i get 88.221.113.32 for .com
[23:43] <shauno> curious; that invalid request page.  is the email us link there, theirs?
[23:43] <daftykins> siteissues@help.tigerdirect.com it was