[03:14] <greg-g> high of 102 in Petaluma today, so we went to the beach (Bodega Bay), just got home, 'twas good
[03:29] <rick_h_> water makes hot weather suck less for sure
[03:31] <greg-g> and the constant breeze
[13:00] <jrwren> good morning
[13:03] <cmaloney> Good morning and all that
[13:09]  * DrDaemonEye mumbles something about morning
[13:13] <mrgoodcat> good morning
[13:13] <mrgoodcat> not for vw though
[13:13] <mrgoodcat> 20% stock drop over the weekend
[13:13] <mrgoodcat> hope nobody here was strongly invested in them
[13:15] <rick_h_> other than buying one of the effected tdi vehicles?
[13:15] <mrgoodcat> you might actually get a check in the mail
[13:15] <cmaloney> I'd love to know who thought that was a good idea at VW
[13:15] <mrgoodcat> if you own one
[13:45] <aleph_one> welp, this is either a great or a terrible time to buy a VW
[13:45] <aleph_one> depending on how their prices adapt
[13:47] <rick_h_> lol
[13:47] <rick_h_> well does this mean I have to check my smugness levels about my tdi?
[13:52] <jrwren> rick_h_: nah, just tel us you are sorry for poluting the air more than the US standard and we will forgive you :)
[13:53] <rick_h_> jrwren: bah!
[13:53] <jrwren> rick_h_: you don't even have to be that sorry. you were lied to by VW about it.
[13:53] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, it's supposed to balance out my truck
[13:53] <rick_h_> but maybe they're closer to equal :P
[13:56] <jrwren> hahhahaaha
[13:56] <jrwren> rick_h_: don't let any EU folks give you grief about it. US diesel standards are a bit more strict than everyone else. you don't even have to apologize to them :)
[13:57] <rick_h_> jrwren: :)
[13:58] <mrgoodcat> besides, it's still probably a lot better on fuel economy. so you can be smug about that if you want
[13:59] <jrwren> ^^^
[13:59] <jrwren> not prius level smug
[13:59] <mrgoodcat> but possibly ford fiesta smugness
[14:00] <cmaloney> nobody but nobody was ever smug in a fiesta
[14:00] <mrgoodcat> lol
[14:00] <mrgoodcat> 36mpg in a fiesta
[14:00] <mrgoodcat> thats pretty good
[14:01] <cmaloney> It's a fiesta
[14:01] <mrgoodcat> in the best configuration of the fiesta that is
[14:01] <cmaloney> It's a fiesta
[14:01] <mrgoodcat> lol
[14:01] <mrgoodcat> the fiesta st is pretty fun
[14:01] <cmaloney> It's a fiesta
[14:01] <mrgoodcat> i don't care
[14:01] <mrgoodcat> small cars can be fun too
[14:01] <mrgoodcat> other than size and a laugable name, what's wrong with a fiesta?
[14:02] <mrgoodcat> laughable
[14:02] <cmaloney> It's a fiesta
[14:02] <cmaloney> ;)
[14:02] <jrwren> i think mrgoodcat is thinking of modern fiesta. I'm thinking of 80s fiesta.
[14:02] <mrgoodcat> now you're just being intentionally unhelpful :/
[14:03] <mrgoodcat> lol i don't know anything about the 80's fiesta, but the new one was super fun to drive on the track at waterford last week
[14:04] <mrgoodcat> i'm really excited for the focus rs though. it's not as great on fuel economy but 315hp awd focus hell yes
[14:04] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: That's cool
[14:04] <mrgoodcat> want one so bad
[14:04] <mrgoodcat> gotta wait for a year or two though for the used ones to be on the market
[14:05] <mrgoodcat> might find a used 135i to tide me over until it comes out
[14:05] <cmaloney> Just wait for the first recalls  to settle in
[14:05] <cmaloney> Should be a few months
[14:06] <jrwren> cmaloney: lol
[14:06]  * cmaloney has a somewhat dim view of the auto industry writ large
[14:07] <mrgoodcat> yea i think you're probably right in general, but this is supposed to be marketed to enthusiasts
[14:07] <mrgoodcat> so they're probably not going to cut corners for the sake of affordability and such
[14:07] <mrgoodcat> it's gonna be a $35k+ focus
[14:08] <jrwren> I do like ford's perf stuff. Taurus SHO is a beast.
[14:08] <jrwren> but in general: meh. I'm not a gear head.
[14:09] <cmaloney> I like cars that are efficient and don't fall apart when you look at them funny.
[14:10] <mrgoodcat> i dont think this one will fall apart when you look at it funny, but it probably won't be efficient in the sense you're thinking of. it will probably be very efficient at turning gas into power, but probably not very efficient at turning gas into distance
[18:29] <aleph_one> does anyone here use a YubiKey Neo to hold a GPG key for signing?
[18:29] <aleph_one> also, pardon me if I'm breaking any channel rules, but I don't think I am
[18:30] <cmaloney> aleph_one: hello
[18:30] <greg-g> rules?
[18:30] <greg-g> :)
[18:31] <cmaloney> https://jclement.ca/articles/2015/gpg-smartcard/ ?
[18:34] <aleph_one> greg-g: my kinda place then ;)
[18:35] <aleph_one> cmaloney: yeah, basically that setup. I'm mostly curious if anyone using it has found it worth the trouble
[18:35] <cmaloney> aleph_one: I don't have a yubikey so I haven't tried it
[18:35] <aleph_one> in my case, I created a 4096-bit key on my desktop, meaning I need to make subkeys for the YubiKey
[18:35] <aleph_one> well, I'll report back!
[18:36] <cmaloney> Yeah, it appears the Yubikey only handles 2048
[18:39] <SneakyPh1l> has anyone here ever used pdsh?
[18:40] <SneakyPh1l> if so, have you ever run a local script remotely using it?