[00:04] <OS_Connoisseur> I have a hard disk image that I dd'ed from my old Windows 95 computer. I want to mount it in Ubuntu to access the files, so I do 'sudo mount -t vfat -o loop harddisk.img /mnt/loop' but it gives me an error.
[00:04] <OS_Connoisseur> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[00:04] <OS_Connoisseur>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[00:04] <OS_Connoisseur>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[00:04] <OS_Connoisseur>        dmesg | tail  or so
[00:06] <EriC^^> OS_Connoisseur: hard disk or partition image?
[00:06] <rsmith_> does Ubuntu 14.04 on use systemd?  I'm not trolling, just a normally Debian user running Ubuntu on Digital Ocean
[00:06] <OS_Connoisseur> Entire hard disk image.
[00:06] <EriC^^> OS_Connoisseur: use sudo losetup /path/to/image
[00:06] <Fleet> rsmith_: no, 15.04 was the first version to do so
[00:07] <EriC^^> then lsblk to see the name and then mount it
[00:07] <rsmith_> Fleet: Thanks!
[00:07] <OS_Connoisseur> rsmith_: 14.04 uses Upstart.
[00:08] <OS_Connoisseur> EriC^^, that doesn't work. loop: can't get info on device harddisk.img: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[00:12] <EriC^^> OS_Connoisseur: try sudo losetup /dev/loop0 /path/to/img
[00:17] <OS_Connoisseur> EriC^^: That didn't give an error, but get the same error as before when trying to mount /dev/loop0
[00:19] <EriC^^> type lsblk
[00:19] <EriC^^> it should list the partitions of the hdd under /dev/loop0
[00:28] <OS_Connoisseur> They don't make this easy, do they. I guess I have to manually examine the disk image with parted and find the filesystem offset.
[00:31] <EriC^^> OS_Connoisseur: you can always load it under virtualbox and copy the files to your host os
[00:32] <OS_Connoisseur> I don't use VirtualBox, but yeah, I suppose I could do that.
[00:33] <OS_Connoisseur> Is there a way to mount and make the mounted directory readable by all users? I hate having to type sudo for everything I do.
[00:35] <phunyguy> OS_Connoisseur: sudo -i
[00:35] <phunyguy> just type that command to get a root prompt
[00:37] <Guest44424> is there a general program out there that log's arbitrary events rsyslog doesn't seem to do enough application log files
[00:37] <Guest44424> to log what i want
[00:44] <wraithd> hello~
[00:45] <wraithd> First time on a raspberrypi, installed ubuntu on it; doesnt appear that I have access to the whole sd card
[00:45] <wraithd> how does one expand the partition to include the rest of the space on the card?
[00:46] <wraithd> it's an 8G card but it looks like I only have access to 1.25 of it
[00:47] <Decoy_Platypus> Do we have any Network Manager gurus here? I need help setting up a bridge interface.
[00:48] <Guest44424> ya something likr inotify_add_watch(fd, "/tmp" , IN_CREATE | IN_DELETE ) ; would work if i wanted to cookup a program or just use existing c program but i am also wondering if there is away to log arbitrary events like any process event , user event, ...etc inotify seems to only log the file system events?
[00:49] <Guest44424> and rsyslog is not specific enough
[00:52] <juanez> hey guys... trying to dist-upgrade from saucy(13.10) to trusty(14.04) but having troubles. seems as if the repo's in sources.list for saucy are all invalid! any pointers?
[00:52] <asklepian> so, is there no documentation for installing ubuntu on a MBP 11,3 ?
[00:54] <Bashing-om> !EOL | juanez The path as 14.10 is End_Of_Life ;
[00:55] <asklepian> so, is there no documentation for installing ubuntu on a MBP 11,3 ?
[00:58] <Giraffe_>  hi, im using ubuntu w/ plasma 5 and unity on a 2014 mbp (ubuntu 15.04). for some reason, if my computer falls asleep/something (not too sure what causes it, because sometimes it doesnt happened if I turn my laptop back on fast enough) the wifi cuts out
[00:58] <Giraffe_> any ideas?
[00:59] <juanez> thx Bashing-om
[01:03] <Bashing-om> juanez: NP. good luck.
[01:06] <valor> v4l0r
[01:07] <Decoy_Platypus> I'm using 15.04. When I use nmcli to add a new bridge-slave interface nmcli shows the new connection, but it is not tied to any device.
[01:07] <Decoy_Platypus> Any ideas?
[01:08] <edisto> does ubuntu 15.10 beta have latest 4.3 kernel?
[01:09] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that edisto
[01:11] <bazhang> !macbook
[01:12] <bazhang> Giraffe_, ^
[01:12] <Giraffe_> Ive checked it out bazhang
[01:12] <Giraffe_> I've also tried setting a script up to restart network manager in sleep.d but it doesnt fix the issue
[01:13] <bazhang> thats odd
[01:13] <bazhang> file a bug for that yet?
[01:15] <Giraffe_> nah was wondering if someone here knew
[01:15] <Giraffe_> and im trying to find out the cause for it
[01:15] <Giraffe_> if I turn the computer back on as soon as its gone to sleep its fine
[01:15] <jeffrey_f> Giraffe_: Just joined, repeat the question
[01:15] <Giraffe_> jeffrey_f: basically mbp wifi doesnt work after laptop sleeps
[01:15] <Giraffe_> restarting network manager doesnt work
[01:15] <Giraffe_> it doesnt see any networks
[01:16] <jeffrey_f> Giraffe_: Reboot and all is fine again?
[01:16] <Giraffe_> yep
[01:17] <Giraffe_> ive tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/521676
[01:20] <jeffrey_f> Giraffe_: looking.  Had a similar problem with bluetooth.  There was a script to restart it on wakeup
[01:21] <jeffrey_f> Giraffe_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362933/network-disabled-on-some-wake-ups-on-saucy-laptop
[01:22] <Giraffe_> Tried one similar to it jeffrey_f but I'll check it out
[01:22] <Giraffe_> Thanks
[01:23] <jeffrey_f> Giraffe_: can't hurt.  maybe a slight variation on the workaround can get it going
[01:23] <blobbagus> Someone help me scrub my hdd? I have a ton of partitions from dual-boot distros, but I'm using virtualbox now. How can I safely nuke all but the Ubuntu Gnome partition?
[01:24] <Bashing-om> !gparted | blobbagus
[01:25] <blobbagus> Nice... I have GP Live - use it to make bootables all the time. It nukes parts too?!?
[01:25] <jeffrey_f> blobbagus: MAKE SURE YOU BACKUP EVERYTHING.  One wrong move and.........
[01:26] <bcx> In initramfs, cryptsetup execution seems to fail (lvm is not available) an irfs says "Waiting for encrypted source device...", how can I get the arguments used by cryptsetup ? of course if break=premount, I can manually luksOpen & boot ...
[01:27] <blobbagus> I considered moving my keepers to the external hdd i have and nuking the whole thing (it still has trash parts from the win8 that came with it)... I think that'll be a reboot nightmare though with all my dev tools :(
[01:27] <jeffrey_f> blobbagus: That would be my suggestion, quicker and safer
[01:28] <blobbagus> Thank you, sir! :)
[01:28] <blobbagus> I'll have a go at it. Wish me luck? (I'm bakking the keepers - just the apache hosts will be a job in itself)
[01:31] <morning> 有中文的吗？
[01:32] <Bashing-om> blobbagus: Just be carefull, The un-do can be very painful .
[01:36] <blobbagus> Is it safe to kill the 'unknown' partitions that were on the hdd when i kicked windows off? (it came with win8 efi_
[01:38] <AvatarA> on one of them you probably have the restore partition
[01:38] <goddard> anyone know of a USB 3 dock that supports high resolutions
[01:39] <bazhang> try ##hardware goddard
[01:40] <charlesathomecom> blobbagus: Yes as long as it is not the uefi boot partition and you are using secure boot.
[01:42] <daftykins> goddard: USB? resolutions? wat
[01:42] <charlesathomecom> blobbagus: If you are using legacy boot then you can safely delete the partition and reformat it to use
[01:43] <Bashing-om> blobbagus: Well, ya want to keep the /efi partition as that contains the boot code to boot operating system(s). Though it can be re-created will be a real pain to go through , 'efibootmgr ' to clean up the old boot files .
[01:48] <aarobc> Is here any possible way to get hibernate working?
[01:48] <daftykins> with what
[01:48] <aarobc> I would (almost) kill for reliable hibernate.
[01:49] <aarobc> daftykins: laptop. I have a galago ultrapro, but their support says that ubuntu itself doesn't support hibernate.
[01:49] <daftykins> wow and they sell the thing
[01:50] <daftykins> surely if it were plausible, they'd have made it so
[01:50] <aarobc> and that kills me because every day at work I have to set up my development environment again. I like to do everything locally because it's much faster, but my workaround is just using tmux on a server.
[01:50] <aarobc> daftykins: but ubuntu itself doesn't support it.
[01:51] <aarobc> and that kills me
[01:51] <aarobc> I don't want to deal with a mac, but that might be my only option
[01:51] <daftykins> well, what's wrong with sleep?
[01:51] <daftykins> assuming you're taking the machine from A to B on battery
[01:51] <aarobc> daftykins: because it drains battery, leaving the lappy in the bag overnight and it's freaking hot the next day
[01:52] <aarobc> and battery is almost dead
[01:52] <rsmith_> aarobc: Debian + Thinkpad = hibernate works
[01:52] <daftykins> oh right you mean the whole overnight thing
[01:52] <daftykins> yeah i would not sleep a laptop in a bag
[01:52] <rsmith_> aarobs: So Ubuntu probably hibernates well on Thinkpad
[01:52] <jeffrey_f> rsmith_: I have a thinkpad and it works quite well
[01:52] <blobbagus> Thanks, charles!
[01:53] <aarobc> rsmith_: ubuntu doesn't even have the hibernate option thoough
[01:53] <aarobc> I tried messing with my swap file to make sure it's big enough, but every time I try to resume, it just gives me a black screen
[01:54] <aarobc> makes me mad, because you'd think that system 76 would have great linux support considering that's their thing.
[01:54] <daftykins> aarobc: what graphics on that thing?
[01:54] <charlesathomecom> aarobc: why do you want to hibrinate , to make it  start faster?
[01:54] <daftykins> charlesathomecom: read up and you'll see the exact reason
[01:55] <daftykins> aarobc: so? graphics hardware?
[01:56] <charlesathomecom> aarobc: you should not need to hibernate if it is to start faster. Mine starts in 11 seconds.
[01:56] <daftykins> also have you tried toggling between TTY1 and back to X on resume?
[01:56] <aarobc> daftykins: iris pro 5200 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:YmgLfwXsy8UJ:https://system76.com/laptops/galago+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[01:56] <daftykins> charlesathomecom: you're totally wrong.
[01:56] <daftykins> aarobc: no other chips then, it's solely the intel?
[01:56] <charlesathomecom> How am I wrong?
[01:56] <daftykins> show an "lspci" on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <aarobc> charlesathomecom: resuming faster is not the issue. it's resuming work without opening all the apps and terminals again.
[01:57] <daftykins> charlesathomecom: because it's nothing to do with boot speed :)
[01:57] <aarobc> daftykins: yeah
[01:57] <charlesathomecom> ok
[01:57] <aarobc> daftykins: kk, one sec
[02:01] <daftykins> that's a long sec :(
[02:03] <aarobc> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12511553/
[02:03] <aarobc> stupid flatmate required help moving a couch
[02:04] <daftykins> alright so ty the toggling TTYs as i mentioned
[02:05] <aarobc> When I try to resume from hibernate, ctrl+alt+F2 does nothing
[02:05] <aarobc> does not bring up tty
[02:06] <daftykins> hmm, do you get any signs of life from the machine?
[02:06] <daftykins> i take it your swap is > RAM size?
[02:07] <aarobc> daftykins: fan noise, and sometimes single white cursor that is unresponsive to any input.
[02:07] <OS_Connoisseur> Has anyone tried compiling and using the KQEMU kernel module under recent Ubuntu versions?
[02:07] <aarobc> swap is 8.3 GB, this machine has 8 gigs of ram
[02:07] <daftykins> hmm that's a bit tight size wise
[02:08] <aarobc> daftykins: you think extending it might help? by how much?
[02:08] <OS_Connoisseur> I want to run Qemu with decent speed, but I can't use kvm because my hardware doesn't support VT-X.
[02:08] <aarobc> I tried even making sure the swap was cleared, then did `pm-hibernate` and still had the problem
[02:08] <daftykins> aarobc: i'd try booting with nomodeset and see if it goes down and up without the intel driver, or perhaps with lightdm stopped
[02:09] <daftykins> that'd rule out the graphics portion
[02:09] <somsip> aarobc: 2xRAM is the recommendation I usually see for hibernation. Never used it myself though
[02:10] <daftykins> that's way too much
[02:10] <aarobc> that's a lot of swap
[02:10] <somsip> Happy to defer, but: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[02:10] <daftykins> you'd have to have some seriously leaky program going into RAM by 8GB to need that :)
[02:10] <aarobc> especially with a 256 ssd
[02:11] <daftykins> anyway try my suggestions, they'll take like 30 seconds to test.
[02:11] <aarobc> daftykins: yeah, was looking up how to do the nomodeset thing. trying it now
[02:17] <Mirodroid> sigh
[02:18] <Mirodroid> how the heck do i install twin in ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[02:18] <Mirodroid> the only thing in the repos are some silly libs that arnt libs
[02:18] <punkgeek> i have problem when compile driver, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12511667/  what shoud i do?
[02:18] <Mirodroid> and have no instructions on how to bloody use them
[02:19] <daftykins> Mirodroid: well coming here with that attitude and language is not a healthy one for finding an answer
[02:19] <daftykins> likely you need to find a PPA if you can't find what you're looking for built in :)
[02:19] <Mirodroid> daftykins, sadly i cant find it in any ppa :<
[02:19] <aarobc> daftykins: OH MY GOD IT WORKED
[02:19] <aarobc> daftykins: I owe you a beer or something
[02:19] <Mirodroid> also what language?  i havent sworn
[02:20] <daftykins> aarobc: what, nomodeset did?
[02:20] <aarobc> yeah
[02:20] <jak2000> i start glassfish: sudo /opt/glassfish4/bin/asadmin start-domain swManzana   but how to start it automatically when server start?
[02:20] <daftykins> aarobc: ah, only issue with that is if you do get a desktop it won't be accelerated
[02:20] <daftykins> so you know the issue is with the intel driver now
[02:20] <daftykins> aarobc: which ubuntu is this?
[02:20] <aarobc> daftykins: sadface
[02:21] <aarobc> 15.04. I like to live on the edge
[02:21] <daftykins> that's not the edge, 15.10 is ;)
[02:21] <punkgeek> nobody help me?
[02:21] <aarobc> well, not in an arch sort of way, but yeah
[02:22] <aarobc> wairt really
[02:22] <aarobc> weird.
[02:22] <daftykins> aarobc: so one idea would be to try a newer mainline kernel, see if that has a working intel driver
[02:22] <daftykins> !mainline
[02:22] <daftykins> punkgeek: looks like you're playing with 4.2.x so 15.10 - which means you're in the wrong channel
[02:23] <punkgeek> so i should change my kernel?
[02:23] <Mirodroid> agian just checked and the software is not in any ppa
[02:23] <daftykins> punkgeek: no i'm saying you're using 15.10 which isn't out yet.
[02:23] <Mirodroid> i keep being linked libtwin0 and libtwin-dev
[02:23] <daftykins> so the channel for help there is #ubuntu+1 :)
[02:23] <punkgeek> im using 14.04
[02:23] <daftykins> Mirodroid: when you check for PPAs, what are you doing exactly?
[02:24] <Mirodroid> doing a seard
[02:24] <daftykins> punkgeek: then you shouldn't be using a newer kernel unless you really need to be.
[02:24] <Mirodroid> search
[02:24] <punkgeek> what stable kernel good for me?
[02:24] <daftykins> punkgeek: explain why you installed 4.2 to start with
[02:25] <punkgeek> i dont know :D
[02:25] <daftykins> nice.
[02:25] <punkgeek> in kernel.org write last stable kernel is 4.2 and i installed it
[02:26] <daftykins> that's a really silly action
[02:26] <daftykins> you don't just chase version numbers with a Linux system
[02:26] <daftykins> aarobc: do you follow the kernel suggestion?
[02:26] <daftykins> aarobc: in fact which are you on right now, 'uname -r'
[02:26] <punkgeek> so what work is good for now?
[02:27] <aarobc> daftykins: still looking into it.
[02:27] <daftykins> you should either be on 3.13.x or 3.19.x
[02:27] <punkgeek> all of them is stable?
[02:27] <daftykins> the ones you're supposed to be on are stable yes :P
[02:28] <daftykins> !info linux-generic trusty
[02:28] <daftykins> 3.13.0-63.
[02:29] <punkgeek> thank you :X
[02:29] <aarobc> 3.19.0-20-generic
[02:29] <aarobc> daftykins: 3.19.0-20-generic
[02:29] <daftykins> hmm ok i think that's out of date
[02:29] <daftykins> !info linux-generic vivid
[02:29] <punkgeek> and if i change my kernel, my driver problem solvd?
[02:30] <daftykins> punkgeek: not necessarily, but right now what you're using isn't Ubuntu - because you've put some other kernel on it. so step #1 is returning it to being the distro it's supposed to be :D
[02:30] <punkgeek> ok :(
[02:30] <punkgeek> thanks
[02:31] <billybigrigger> hey all, i just finished trying to setup clamav/amavis/spamassasin on 14.04 LTS and now all incoming emails have ***UNCHECKED*** in the subject...
[02:31] <billybigrigger> my logs looks fine, no errors, i just don't know how to get them to be checked?
[02:32] <billybigrigger> freshclam.log says it updated the latest db definitions, and all is good......
[02:32] <billybigrigger> any suggestions?
[02:33] <billybigrigger> if i look at the mail headers i can see X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at xxxxxxxxx.com
[02:34] <billybigrigger> X-Spam-Flag: NO
[02:34] <billybigrigger> X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.274 tagged_above=-999 required=6
[02:34] <billybigrigger> so what is adding the ***UNCHECKED*** to the subject?
[02:36] <Pinkamena_D> something is bound to port 1935 and I don't know what it is. # fuser -k 1935/tcp hangs forever. How to find it and kill it?
[02:36] <aarobc> well it still doesn't like the systemd hibernate `systemctl hibernate`
[02:37] <aarobc> but pm-hibernate seems to work
[02:37] <Pinkamena_D> also lsof hangs too if I try to list processes on that port
[02:39] <Pazooza> Is there a way to cut from a host system and paste into a VM?
[02:39] <daftykins> with which VM tech?
[02:41] <liquidmetal> Anyone here famliiar with tcp wrapper?
[02:42] <Ranieri_> Test
[02:43] <jrmiah> anyone here have any luck disabling lightdm and getting a login console going? (what are the design decisions here with ubuntu btw... )
[02:44] <Bashing-om> jrmiah: What release ?
[02:44] <jrmiah> 15.04
[02:44] <jrmiah> Looked stackoverflow and was surprised at how convoluted it sounds
[02:44] <jrmiah> Thought maybe someone here had a better distilled answer heh
[02:44] <Bashing-om> jrmiah: K; and do you want to boot to terminal as a permanent arrangement ?
[02:45] <jrmiah> http://askubuntu.com/questions/613698/in-ubuntu-15-04-cant-do-graphical-log-in
[02:45] <daftykins> super convoluted, you boot with 'text' ¬_¬
[02:45] <jrmiah> daftykins: used the be the default in almost every linux distro unless you specified GDM et al which was an option ..
[02:45] <jrmiah> eg, running TTYs by default is what.. a memory hawg? :)
[02:46] <Bashing-om> daftykins: I my recent testing, 'text' no longer worked . purple screened on my system .
[02:46] <jrmiah> Bashing-om: any ideas?
[02:46] <jrmiah> or did you get it working?
[02:46] <Pinkamena_D> I have traced the freeze of these programs to reading from /proc/3974/fd . Does anyone know what this device is?
[02:46] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: looks like floppy from the 'fd'
[02:47] <Pinkamena_D> Well this server has no floppy, can I destroy it?
[02:47] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: might want to look at /proc/ioports and interrupts and cross verify that
[02:48] <Bashing-om> jrmiah: Yeah; try terminal commands ' sudo systemctl enable multi-user.target --force ; sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target ' and to start the GUI ' sudo systemctl start graphical.target ' .
[02:48] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: actually to be honest I havent been an admin since long before they started populating /proc with pids - since thats under a pid directory its probably not a floppy ahha
[02:48] <Pinkamena_D> yeah ioports says : 3000-3fff : PCI Bus 0000:0c
[02:49] <Pinkamena_D> but idk, ls freezes, it is killing everything
[02:49] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: its actually a file descriptor, my bad
[02:49] <daftykins> Bashing-om: oh wow, ok - hrmm
[02:49] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: you have a bad drive
[02:49] <Pinkamena_D> I thought those were at /dev ?
[02:50] <jrmiah> what does dmesg say
[02:50] <jrmiah> any IO errors?
[02:50] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: those devices are at /dev but file descriptors created by a process are under /proc/<pid/fd .. apparently
[02:50] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: look for 'fd' http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man5/proc.5.html
[02:50] <Bashing-om> daftykins: When I dids 1st start with 15.04 'text' did work, but no networking was enabled . I guess in the newer kernels several things are changed ?
[02:51] <Pinkamena_D> there is a stack trace there
[02:51] <Pinkamena_D> for the fuser process
[02:51] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: do this - # ls -al /proc/3974/fd
[02:51] <Pinkamena_D> yeah it just hangs
[02:52] <Pinkamena_D> the start of the trace seems to be : general protection fault: 0000 [#2] SMP
[02:52] <Pinkamena_D> sounds like some uhh...not too good things. =S
[02:52] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: ehhhhh bad CPU then heh
[02:53] <jrmiah> I guess
[02:53] <jrmiah> where are you at with this? reboot yet?
[02:53] <Pinkamena_D> nope
[02:53] <jrmiah> it could be something as easy as a fan
[02:53] <Pinkamena_D> just sshing in
[02:53] <jrmiah> or it could be a nuked piece of hardware
[02:53] <Pinkamena_D> bad cpu heh, that is a new one for me.
[02:53] <jrmiah> cpu, memory .. but yeah that trace sounds more ominous
[02:54] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: back in the old days happened a lot.. a lot less so these days with modern temp sensors
[02:54] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: if your using my advice its about admin level from circa 2002 hah
[02:54] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: more devops now. Hardware is a commidity and work for like .. a virtualization vendor ;)
[02:54] <Pinkamena_D> yeah I am just messing with my own hardware, so no big deal.
[02:54] <jrmiah> so we are alerted that hardware goes bad, moved a VM to another server long before it ever gets to an OS
[02:55] <jrmiah> Pinkamena_D: well is it Xeon class?
[02:55] <Pinkamena_D> yes
[02:55] <jrmiah> dual proc or more? or just a single proc multi core? is it a server or a desktop?
[02:56] <Pinkamena_D> its like a quad physical cpu rackmount with 2 cores per chip
[02:56] <Pinkamena_D> but its old like 2008 or something
[02:56] <jrmiah> yeah .. bad cpu
[02:56] <jrmiah> is likely enough
[02:57] <jrmiah> you should be able to boot with just 1
[02:57] <jrmiah> if its a dell or compaq they have diagnostics images you can boot into and it will check it for you too
[02:57] <Pinkamena_D> it says that "#2" is the bad one, but I don't know which order they are.
[02:57] <Pinkamena_D> or if it is zero indexed
[02:58] <Pinkamena_D> ok I will check around for the diagnostics
[02:58] <jrmiah> your going to want some definitive answers for that situation though I agree... good luck
[02:59] <jrmiah> if you were at work you would have a spare proc to try real quick. in the situation where you dont and at home... might take forever
[03:08] <Bashing-om> jrmiah: You catch my xx:48 entry ?
[03:10] <BillyBob> Yo
[03:14] <Guest72431> hello guys i'm new to linux i want to get the hell out of microsoft
[03:14] <Guest72431> i have some questions please
[03:14] <bazhang> !manual | Guest72431 have a read
[03:14] <rxrxrxt> Everybody does.
[03:15] <Bashing-om> Guest72431: ask .
[03:15] <Guest72431> 1st which is the best one to use lubuntu or xubuntu ,the look and feel ?
[03:15] <Guest72431> can i use Kwin with both of them ?
[03:15] <bazhang> Guest72431, there is not a best
[03:15] <bazhang> Guest72431, kwin is for kde
[03:16] <Bashing-om> Guest72431: Yhere will be no comment on a personal preference, hardware permitting .
[03:16] <bazhang> !rute | Guest72431 and this
[03:16] <Tripa> hi?
[03:16] <rxrxrxt> Guest72431: ubuntu is more developed to give less trouble. It's not the most mature user interface though.
[03:16] <bazhang> read some of those links Guest72431
[03:17] <Guest72431> what do you mean Kde ? any linux name that has this kde please ?
[03:17] <Tripa> good evening
[03:17] <Tripa> may I ask something here?
[03:17] <bazhang> kde like xfce or lxde Guest72431
[03:17] <Bashing-om> Guest72431: KDE is (K)ubuntu Desktop Environment .
[03:18] <bazhang> Guest72431, please have a read of the many many links give first
[03:18] <rxrxrxt> Guest72431: kde is okay. Xfce is like windows
[03:18] <Bashing-om> Tripa: Ubuntu relatd, then yes .
[03:18] <Tripa> ok
[03:18] <Guest72431> ok bazhang so Kubuntu uses kde right ?
[03:19] <jack_> is it common for ubuntu mate to have a slow connection?
[03:19] <Tripa> does anyone know the command to convert videos on ffmpeg?
[03:19] <bazhang> Guest72431, as was said just a moment ago yes
[03:19] <bazhang> Tripa, try ##ffmpeg
[03:19] <Guest72431> ok thanks brother
[03:20] <bazhang> Tripa, their website has examples as well
[03:20] <rxrxrxt> Guest72431: ubuntu is best for beginners. It's unity shell is developed to work best.
[03:21] <bluebaron> I know this is vague and probably hard to answer, but where would one get started learning how to fix your system when it screws up
[03:21] <Tripa> ok, it's kind of complicated through the website, but I'll try
[03:21] <rxrxrxt> Tripa: simple but don't know off hand
[03:21] <bluebaron> I've tried several distros of ubuntu over the years and I always encounter odd problems that I have no idea how to debug
[03:22] <rxrxrxt> Tripa: it's usually file location followed by output type.
[03:22] <bazhang> bluebaron, bugs list/mailing list/ askubuntu
[03:22] <bazhang> !lists | bluebaron
[03:23] <Bashing-om> bluebaron: One way. hang out here a couple few hours a day, and help when you can . be amazed what you will learn .
[03:23] <Guest72431> thank you guys for your help, i will download lubuntu,xubuntu,and ubuntu and see which one works best for me ...i can't tell or ask till i try each one and feel the look and changes ...etc
[03:23] <Guest72431> thank you guys again so much . keep up the good work
[03:23] <bluebaron> Thanks for the mailing lists bazhang
[03:23] <rxrxrxt> Guest72431: just buzz. Sometimes booting is a pain to.
[03:23] <bluebaron> Bashing-om: Also a good recommendation, thanks
[03:24] <Guest72431> rxrxrxt brother do you mean booting from live cd ? or after i install it ?
[03:25] <rxrxrxt> Guest72431: both sometimes. Depends on system and the effort you put in
[03:25] <SubCool> looking for a lil help. Last time i did this, it was as simple as doing it. SO- My New laptop came with a slow hdd, with win10. I put in a SSD, and looking to copy the drive over. anything special i should consider? Im using linux to do it- but usually it just copies. im mising something.
[03:26] <Bashing-om> bluebaron: Seriously though, It is rare to have an isolated problem. Most problem's solutions are found with a good search engine .
[03:26] <Guest72431> ok i got you rxrxrxt .i'll give them try and see what will happen . thanks again i really appreciate your help
[03:27] <rxrxrxt> SubCool: look for cloning os. It needs cloning.
[03:28] <hypermist> well ubuntu install failed
[03:28] <bluebaron> Bashing-om: Well for ages I couldn't even install xubuntu on my asus-k55n because of the weird UEFI stuff. I had no idea where to even begin learning the stuff required to understand an incomplete answer given on a single forum post
[03:28] <hypermist> Never got pas 10 of 19...
[03:28] <rxrxrxt> SubCool: clone the drive is the easiest way.
[03:29] <SubCool> rxrxrxt, i am- i dd'd it. but im missing something
[03:30] <rxrxrxt> SubCool: probably grub needs to run or uefi needs to know location of OS on new drive
[03:32] <Bashing-om> bluebaron: I do understand. I came to 'buntu from a different platform. Took a bit to learn the basics of this OS . Time effort and study -> break it and fix it was what I did .
[03:33] <bluebaron> Bashing-om: I see
[03:34] <Bashing-om> bluebaron: UEFI is still a relatively new implemetation. We all have some to learn here .
[03:37] <SubCool> rxrxrxt, how do i tell uefi about the new os?
[03:38] <rxrxrxt> SubCool: is your system booting UEFI
[03:39] <SubCool> yes
[03:39] <rxrxrxt> SubCool: I think u have to return grub2 setup
[03:39] <Guest44424> I can make keyloggers or mouse loggers that log keys and mouse coordinates but what i am not sure of is how can you log the application of name of what the mouse is over or clicks on... all i can do is get mouse clicked at X,Y coordinates but not the next level of name of component/program clicked on if Applicable
[03:39] <rxrxrxt> SubCool: I think u have to RERUN grub2 setup
[03:40] <Guest44424> Is there some way of doing that?
[03:40] <SubCool> rxrxrxt, for a windows install?
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:43] <zacwalls> on 14.04 when executing the command sudo do-release-upgrade I get no new release found.
[03:43] <zacwalls> how can I upgrade?
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> zacwalls: 16.04 isnt out yet, you can upgrade yet
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> cant
[03:45] <zacwalls> lotuspsychje, what about 15.04
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> zacwalls: 15.04 is a non-lts release
[03:45] <zacwalls> lotuspsychje, what?
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> zacwalls: if you want to test, you need a clean reinstall
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> !lts | zacwalls
[03:46] <zacwalls> oh i thought you typed its
[03:46] <zacwalls> lol
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> zacwalls: i reccomend staying on 14.04 as its nice and stable
[03:47] <Guest47826> hacktheplanet!
[03:47] <zacwalls> good idea
[03:47] <AvatarA> yep, like lotuspsychje said
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> Guest47826: can we help you?
[03:48] <AvatarA> just check the changelogs and if you don't REALLY need anything from there, no reason to expose yourself to unknown/unresolved bugs
[03:48] <fnkfd> how do i setup a system restore that can be accessed from the grub menu??
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> fnkfd: idle here until TJ- joins he knows about that
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> fnkfd: is this for several workstations or single pc?
[03:50] <fnkfd> single pc
[03:51] <fnkfd> i should back up as a .iso like everybody else
[03:51] <fnkfd> but a grub  menu thing is just easy]
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> fnkfd: for inside restoring you can use aptoncd to backup your fav packages
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | fnkfd
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> fnkfd: and im a big fan of backup personal data on external hd
[03:53] <fnkfd> thats what i should do
[03:54] <fnkfd> hopefully i can repartition the already allocated space on my wd
[03:54] <fnkfd> to make it bootable
[03:55] <fnkfd> hi
[04:00] <bijan_> Hi. Can I apt-get remove sendmail when I have postfix installed?
[04:01] <bijan_> I did that but the sendmail service was still running after apt-get remove sendmail. Is sendmail needed by system or is postfix a dropin replacement?
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> bijan_: maybe the #postfix channel might know?
[04:09] <bijan_> lotuspsychje: thx will check that out
[04:11] <fnkfd> well un backing up my system as a .iso
[04:12] <fnkfd> is there any easy partition managers that will create a bootable chunk out of my portable hard disk and leave the rest for storage?
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> fnkfd: i dont think that works this way
[04:13] <fnkfd> like i noticed ubtuntu when you install it can steal some of window's disk space?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> fnkfd: besides, with the fast changing updates daily, your system would be outdated pretty soon right
[04:14] <Ben64> you can't really back your system up as an iso
[04:14] <fnkfd> theres gotta be a way to do that to a hard disk
[04:14] <fnkfd> what
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> fnkfd: the clean install way + backups external are best to go
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> fnkfd: and updates asap
[04:15] <fnkfd> so snapshots?
[04:16] <Bashing-om>  fnkfd Consider; Linux has been around a long while, if there were a better way than this way, then this way would not be advised. huh ?
[04:16] <fnkfd> i hate having to sudo apt-get upgrade it takes half a day to download everything
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> fnkfd: even if you backup your favorite packages with aptoncd, they also need to be updated
[04:17] <fnkfd> omg im about to code my own distribution here
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:18] <fnkfd> ill market it to ppl who are poor
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> fnkfd: feel free to use remastersys to build own iso
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !yay | bijan_
[04:19] <fnkfd> does that method sue up more space so it's not recommended?
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> fnkfd: and again, if you make you own distro, it also would need online updating after the install
[04:20] <fnkfd> use*
[04:20] <fnkfd> hm
[04:21] <fnkfd> thats  a cyb username
[04:30] <Jamie_1> hey i was trying to purge java from my computer since somehow the install didnt go right, so i followed what a friend said would work (big mistake) and now i cant get any of the jdk working at all... i have added manually, and from installer.. i have 6 all the way up to 9 and none of them are working, anyone know how i can fix this?
[04:30] <Jamie_1> i cant get any of my developer tools to work without it....
[04:34] <poutine> Jamie_1, isn't it all keyed off of what you can set as the JAVA_HOME environmental variable?
[04:35] <Jamie_1> im not sure... i usually have the installer do it for me... but one time the installer failed somehow and I dont have a clue how to fix it... im a js and html5 developer
[04:35] <Jamie_1> i dont mess with java unless you count running my ide and some other things
[04:36] <poutine> what does java -version output?
[04:36] <poutine> first line
[04:37] <Jamie_1> java version "1.7.0_80"
[04:37] <poutine> what's the error your developer tools are giving?
[04:37] <Jamie_1> one sec let me get it
[04:38] <Jamie_1> Cannot find java. Please use the --jdkhome switch
[04:38] <asdasd> Hello
[04:39] <poutine> Jamie_1, what does which java ouput
[04:39] <asdasd> Im giving away a computer to a linux newbie, its a pentium 4 with 512mb of ram. Dont plan on upgrading.... Which distro would be best? Xubuntu or mint Xfce? Thanks
[04:39] <Jamie_1> poutine: what do you mean?
[04:39] <poutine> Jamie_1, type: which java
[04:40] <Jamie_1>  /usr/bin/java
[04:40] <Jamie_1> which is not where my java is i think...
[04:40] <asdasd> Anyone tried comparing those two distros?
[04:41] <Jamie_1> asdasd: with that small amount of hardware strength i would say either xubuntu or lubuntu
[04:41] <jak2000> better place for start a program when server start: /etc/init  or /etc/init.d/rc.local ?
[04:41] <wileee> not here asdasd
[04:41] <poutine> Jamie_1, Which directories do you have in /usr/lib/jvm
[04:42] <asdasd> Jamie_1: Great. Why not mint? Is it more resource hungry?
[04:42] <poutine> This should be the last question
[04:42] <Jamie_1> its more rendering and requires more to run, lubuntu and xubuntu are very light weight
[04:44] <poutine> Jamie_1 ?
[04:44] <Jamie_1> poutine: im putiting ls of it in a paste bin
[04:44] <Jamie_1> poutine: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8846975
[04:45] <poutine> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64
[04:45] <poutine> should work
[04:45] <poutine> you can also use --jdkhome=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64
[04:45] <poutine> (I also assume you're trying to use 1.7.0)
[04:45] <Jamie_1> i would prefer 8
[04:46] <poutine> replacae java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64 with oracle_jdk8
[04:46] <poutine> in my above statements
[04:47] <jak2000> Jamie_1 what do you try to do?
[04:47] <Jamie_1> poutine: do i need to reboot or logout for it to take effect?
[04:47] <poutine> no, in fact it will only be valid for whatever terminal you're in at the time
[04:47] <poutine> you can put it in your .bashrc/.zshrc/whatever to make it always present
[04:47] <Jamie_1> i need it system wide
[04:48] <jak2000> Jamie_1 explain me please
[04:48] <poutine> if you put it in your rc file, it will be system wide for that user
[04:48] <asdasd> Jamie_1: Have you  compared or saw a comparisson?
[04:48] <poutine> there's a system wide rc file if you need it for every user
[04:49] <Jamie_1> okay people... i dont know crap about java other than it runs my ide... i dont know the best of ubuntu architecture... i am a mobile QA and dev....
[04:50] <Jamie_1> i just know that its not working with running my ide at all... my ide wont launch and when i run the .bin from terminal its says it cant fine java....
[04:52] <jak2000> i am a developer if tell me i can try help
[04:53] <Jamie_1> jak2000: i dont have a clue... all i know is that my jdk is not working so my ide will not work... i went to install jdk 8 and it went wrong somewhere... so i then used the other installer for 7... wont work either... i even tried 9 and that didnt work either... i have openjdk also that wont work
[04:54] <jak2000> wait
[04:54] <jak2000> you need only reconfigure
[04:55] <Jamie_1> how do i do that?
[04:55] <jak2000> give me the output of: java -version
[04:55] <jak2000> ?
[04:55]  * Jamie_1 is an idiot so kind needs steps... 
[04:55] <Jamie_1> java version "1.7.0_80"
[04:55] <jak2000> and you installed version 8 right?
[04:55] <Jamie_1> yes
[04:55] <Guest51163> I have to say you can get alot of information on alot of application stuff thru dbus and one can set monitors on events
[04:56] <jak2000> read: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/JBoss_Enterprise_Web_Platform/5/html/Installation_Guide/sect-use_alternatives_to_set_default_JDK.html
[04:56] <Jamie_1> some how my jre is working but the jdk is not
[04:56] <sindrake> hello how is everyone doing tonight
[04:56] <jak2000> the command is: /usr/sbin/alternatives --config java
[04:56] <jak2000> and you choose your jdk version 8
[04:57] <Jamie_1> jak2000: ash: /usr/sbin/alternatives: No such file or directory
[04:57] <jak2000> ok wait
[04:58] <Jamie_1> i will do whatever it takes... i really need my netbeans working
[04:58] <sindrake> Anyone know anything about making minecraft.jar executable, please msg me
[04:58] <jak2000> update-alternatives --config java
[04:58] <jak2000> Jamie_1: update-alternatives --config java
[04:59] <jak2000> Jamie_1 wait not desesperate
[04:59] <Jamie_1> jak2000: even know there is oracle8 listed in my jvm folder its not listed on the list....
[05:00] <jak2000> then you need
[05:00] <jak2000> remove all java and reinstall
[05:00] <Jamie_1> I dont know how to do that
[05:01] <jak2000> 1) try: apt-get remove java*
[05:02] <jak2000> and follow: http://askubuntu.com/questions/464755/how-to-install-openjdk-8-on-14-04-lts
[05:02] <Jamie_1> jak2000: unable to locate packace java
[05:02] <Jamie_1> *package
[05:02] <jak2000> ok follow the link
[05:03] <Jamie_1> jak2000: its saying its already installed
[05:04] <sindrake> trying to uninstall reinstall java without synaptics eh?
[05:04] <sindrake> i remember the first time i was there
[05:04] <Jamie_1> actually i might be able to do it with synaptic itself
[05:05] <jak2000> give me access
[05:05] <jak2000> and try ...
[05:09] <Jamie_1> jak2000: do you think a synaptic complete reinstall of java will work?
[05:11] <sindrake> I have installed Minecraft, upon which i have rightclicked and made the permissions executable, upon opening it opens the file manager to ask me to extract the files, so i did a #sudo chmod +x minecraft.jar; still not executable; next i launched from terminal, worked perfectly,. then I tried making the file read and write, and when i tried to open with.. specific command line,. there was no add command line in the list of softwar
[05:11] <sindrake> e to open the jar file
[05:12] <Jamie_1> sindrake: random question, has anyone made a alt minecraft that runs in browser yet?
[05:15] <sindrake> yeah im stuck too,. newest ubuntu seems to not allow the doubleclick execution but will allow the terminal im at a loss here,. my kid can only doubleclick at this point and he isn't advanced anough to know how to launch let alone open the terminal
[05:16] <jak2000> sindrake have you a tutorial? about minecraft on a broswer?
[05:17] <Jamie_1> jak2000: i was asking due to im thinking of making one
[05:17] <sindrake> From my perspective minecraft cannot be played on a browser, when the game was sold to higher powers the higher powers removed the online game from being played freely on webpages
[05:17] <Jamie_1> it would be made from scratch though
[05:17] <sindrake> This is why the new minecraft download page no longer has the "Play Online" button anymore
[05:18] <Jamie_1> welcome to proprietary microsoft
[05:18] <jak2000> Jamie_1 remove with synaptics and follow the link
[05:18] <sindrake> they only offer the download button so they can rake in the money it takes to activate it
[05:19] <jak2000> sindrake give me the steps
[05:19] <jak2000> pls
[05:19] <sindrake> i have always been able to make every file on every form of linux executable,. but for some reason this particular version does not allow this particular task to be for minecraft.jar
[05:20] <sindrake> the tutorial for playing on a webpage, or the tutorial for making the file executable?
[05:20] <jak2000> both
[05:20] <jak2000> :)
[05:22] <sindrake> How to make minecraft executable,. Install OpenJDK
[05:22] <sindrake> install minecraft launcher
[05:22] <sindrake> Despite the text on the webpage stating that the jar should be executable I can confirm that it isn't.
[05:22] <sindrake> To make it executable with Ubuntu right click on the Minecraft.jar file and choose properties
[05:23] <sindrake> Click on the "Permissions" tab and make sure the "Allow executing file as program" checkbox is checked.
[05:23] <sindrake> If you are using the command line then run the command:
[05:23] <sindrake> chmod +x Minecraft.jar
[05:23] <sindrake> Run the launcher
[05:23] <sindrake> You can now run the Minecraft.jar launcher in Ubuntu by double clicking on the file. (Double clicking will work for a large number of distributions).
[05:23] <sindrake> If you want to run Minecraft from the command line navigate to the folder where Minecraft resides and then type:
[05:23] <sindrake> java -jar Minecraft.jar
[05:23] <sindrake> After a few seconds the launcher will load.
[05:24] <sindrake> oops doesn't work?
[05:24] <sindrake> sudo chmod +x filename
[05:25] <sindrake> at this point it did work from terminal but not from doubleclicking
[05:25] <sindrake> however, there was this.... sudo chown tlauli /media/Data/Download/Minecraft/minecraft.jar
[05:25] <sindrake> sudo chmod +x /media/Data/Download/Minecraft/minecraft.jar
[05:25] <jak2000> and how to run from browser?
[05:25] <sindrake> ok lets have a look
[05:27] <sindrake> most of these are not updated, and only are tutorials for when minecraft was owned by the original designers, and hence has no way of being played from a webpage since the game went download only
[05:28]  * Jamie_1 unless someone makes a in browser clone
[05:28] <sindrake> never thought of that, of course any and all games have been cracked, and played across many platforms,.
[05:29] <Jamie_1> i just want to make one that runs on js
[05:29] <Jamie_1> well js and html5
[05:29] <sindrake> they do have java versions of software games,. and software versions of java games,.
[05:29] <sindrake> but that would entail knowing and programming the entire game from the ground up to make the game crossplatform
[05:29] <Jamie_1> you just use babylonjs and open gl
[05:29] <Jamie_1> *webGL
[05:30] <sindrake> but the programming of minecraft is stored within it's servers,
[05:31] <Jamie_1> so you make all the objects in blender and then pull them into the game via a json file pull and then place them, and implement a physics engine and collision engine and then all that is left is making the tools interactions
[05:31] <somsip> sindrake: too much information. Waht is wrong with java -jar minecraft.jar ?
[05:32] <sindrake> somsip, minecraft works perfectly, but all routes to launch it fail and can only be launched via terminal
[05:32] <sindrake> my five yo needs a clickable executable file
[05:32] <somsip> sindrake: 'all routes' means what?
[05:32] <sindrake> and everything ive tried it will not execute via doubleclick
[05:33] <sindrake> route 1, open properties and click make executable in permissions tab
[05:33] <sindrake> route 2 sudo chmod +x minecraft.jar
[05:34] <somsip> sindrake: like I said, java -jar minecraft.jar is the shortcut. It's not executable
[05:34] <sindrake> route 3, add executable terminal icon opening via terminal through shortcut
[05:34] <somsip> sindrake: stop for the love of god
[05:34] <sindrake> thats where i hit my wall
[05:34] <somsip> sindrake: do you want a shortcut in unity?
[05:35] <sindrake> no just on my ubuntu desktop
[05:35] <sindrake> ever since i updated linux on this comp it will play but execute
[05:35] <somsip> sindrake: this, http://www.lynda.com/articles/running-minecraft-ubuntu-linux
[05:36] <somsip> sindrake: go to "Creating a shortcut icon to launch Minecraft"
[05:36] <sindrake> omg brb
[05:36] <sindrake> and ty
[05:36] <somsip> sindrake: just be clear *and concise* and help is often easily given
[05:37] <sindrake> ty
[05:46] <sindrake> hit a hurdle
[05:46] <ainzooalgown> thx
[05:47] <sindrake> gedit does not have a edit option in the menubar
[05:48] <OerHeks> sindrake, yes it does, on the top panel
[05:48] <ainzooalgown> I preferred nano.
[05:49] <sindrake> all i see is, new file, open, save, print, cut, copy, paste, search for text, search and replace text
[05:50] <OerHeks> sindrake, top panel is not the top panel in the gedit window, but desktop top-panel
[05:51] <OerHeks> set focus on gedit and move your mouse to the top of your window
[05:51] <sindrake> *facepalm.. sorry
[05:51] <OerHeks> this is called global menu, to save space
[05:52] <OerHeks> I think unity-tweak can undo this feature
[05:52] <SubCool> looking for a lil help. Last time i did this, it was as simple as doing it. SO- My New laptop came with a slow hdd, with win10. I put in a SSD, and looking to copy the drive over. anything special i should consider? Im using linux to do it- but usually it just copies. im mising something.
[05:53] <OerHeks> SubCool, ask in ##windows, not really an ubuntu issue
[05:55] <sindrake> well now
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> SubCool: make your life easy and install ubuntu single on your ssd and loose win once and for good :p
[05:56] <sindrake> that worked like a charm
[05:56] <sindrake> i should have familiarized myself with the new ubuntu before coming here sorry
[05:56] <sindrake> but then again thanks for making my file execute!!
[05:57] <somsip> sindrake: np
[05:57] <sindrake> well im going to get off of here and show my son how he can load his game all by himself bye for now guys
[05:58] <SubCool> lotuspsychje, im with u, but i need windows working
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> SubCool: install w10 virtualbox on ubuntu
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox | SubCool
[06:03] <munchymahesh> hi all
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> munchymahesh: welcome, what can we do for you?
[06:07] <munchymahesh> i need some help abt deepin OS UI
[06:07] <munchymahesh> help me out
[06:07] <cfhowlett> munchymahesh, not supported here.  deepin has it's own channel.
[06:07] <munchymahesh> i want to make the Ubuntu desktop to look like Deepin OS 2014.3 desktop
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: good morning :p
[06:07] <munchymahesh> ok
[06:08] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, yowza^2!!
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> munchymahesh: then install ubuntu, and make it look like it
[06:08]  * cfhowlett hasn't been cursed out or insulted on irc all day!
[06:08] <munchymahesh> i hav already installed Ubuntu
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: :p:p
[06:08] <cfhowlett> munchymahesh, you SAID you had deepin?
[06:08] <munchymahesh> bt need to make it like Deepin Desktop
[06:09] <munchymahesh> ya i had deepin bt its not installing
[06:09] <cfhowlett> munchymahesh, ask deepin how to make some OTHER os look like THEIR os.
[06:09] <cfhowlett> munchymahesh, why?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !info docky | munchymahesh maybe this can help
[06:09] <munchymahesh> #deepin isnot responding
[06:10] <cfhowlett> munchymahesh, not an ubuntu issue.
[06:10] <munchymahesh> i want to use deepin Desktop in ubuntu
[06:11] <cfhowlett> munchymahesh, not advised.  not supported.
[06:11] <OerHeks> munchymahesh, so, find deepin os theme and install it?
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> munchymahesh: install docky, try the faenza icon pack, change wallpaper, done!
[06:12] <OerHeks> but bing says there is no such theme, sorry
[06:13] <cfhowlett> yeah, you'd have to go into the .iso files and extract them I think.  but I think lotuspsychje gave the best suggestion
[06:13] <munchymahesh> ok i gonna try it
[06:13] <cfhowlett> !kylin | munchymahesh
[06:13] <Ivo> Is there any web service to display if a given path/to/exe belongs to an Ubuntu package?
[06:14] <SubCool> fuck
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> Ivo: tell us what you search mate
[06:14] <SubCool> lotuspsychje, you were helping werent u?
[06:14] <cfhowlett> SubCool, no profanity here.
[06:14] <SubCool> lol
[06:14] <SubCool>  ops
[06:14] <Ivo> lotuspsychje: /usr/bin/multiarch-platform , but I'm wanting to find it was present on any ubuntu version
[06:14] <munchymahesh> how to extract the Deepin Desktop from Deepin OS iso file
[06:14] <OerHeks> Ivo, no ubuntu package contains an EXE, it is windows stuff
[06:14] <SubCool> HAHAHAAHAH -
[06:14] <SubCool> lotuspsychje, help me please.
[06:15] <Ivo> derFlo: s/exe/executable =_=
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> SubCool: youl have to ask a question first
[06:15] <SubCool> um, i was working with someone, and he left. u said something, but- not what would help.
[06:15] <cfhowlett> munchymahesh, that is NOT what you should do.
[06:15] <SubCool> u saw it before
[06:15] <SubCool> but-
[06:15] <SubCool> um.
[06:15] <SubCool> looking for a lil help. Last time i did this, it was as simple as doing it. SO- My New laptop came with a slow hdd, with win10. I put in a SSD, and looking to copy the drive over. anything special i should consider? Im using linux to do it- but usually it just copies. im mising something.
[06:15] <Ivo> OerHeks: s/exe/executable
[06:15] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje> munchymahesh: install docky, try the faenza icon pack, change wallpaper, done!
[06:15] <Guest51163> is there away to start the X server on a different ctrl+alt+fn display completely
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> SubCool: oerheks already told you what to do, dodnt you read?
[06:15] <OerHeks> SubCool, again: ask in ##windows, not really an ubuntu issue
[06:16] <SubCool> ugh.. uya..
[06:16] <SubCool> but-
[06:16] <SubCool> im already there
[06:16] <OerHeks> we don't know what to copy, and take no responsibility
[06:16] <SubCool> ok. ill goto offtopic- ok?
[06:16] <Guest51163> what i mean is i don't want to 0,1,2...etc displays i want to set the server on another computer and have the client on a different computer
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> Guest51163: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys can assist you mate?
[06:18] <penos> i want to run window in linux
[06:18] <penos> tmax window 9
[06:18] <cfhowlett> penos, virtualbox + windows
[06:19] <cfhowlett> !vbox
[06:19] <penos> ubuntu is awesome!
[06:20] <penos> !systemd
[06:20] <penos> !erc
[06:21] <penos> !eclipse
[06:21] <cfhowlett> penos, to avoid flooding the channel, do this:   /msg ubottu !factoid
[06:22] <SubCool> haha- only person talking on offtopic told me to come here
[06:22] <SubCool> just help out.
[06:22] <SubCool> thing chaged, and i dont have the time to figure it all outbefore i get this working.
[06:23] <SubCool> usually a simple dd fo the main partition and a functioning mbr would make this work., but its not.
[06:23] <SubCool> looking for a lil help. Last time i did this, it was as simple as doing it. SO- My New laptop came with a slow hdd, with win10. I put in a SSD, and looking to copy the drive over. anything special i should consider? Im using linux to do it- but usually it just copies. im mising something.
[06:23] <SubCool> it mentions something about gtp when i working setting up 8.1 because i hate 10. so its working on the new file ssytem, but im not entirely familiar with it yet.
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> SubCool: stop asking windows support here, you already have been pointed to the ##windows channel
[06:25] <SubCool> fine-
[06:25] <OerHeks> SubCool, -offtopic says the same, nice try, goodbye
[06:25] <SubCool> they said to come here or windows
[06:25] <SubCool> i already asked in windows,
[06:25] <SubCool> someone was ehlping me here, but- then... while i was loading into os, he left.
[06:26] <SubCool> OerHeks, why so high and mighty- it isnt that crazy of an issue. IM not flooding an overly busy channel.
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> SubCool: unless you have ubuntu, or install ubuntu this is not the right channel
[06:26] <OerHeks> !windows
[06:26] <SubCool> im using ubuntu to do the work,
[06:27] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | SubCool,
[06:27] <OerHeks> we don't know what to copy, and take no responsibility, even when you use ubuntu.
[06:27] <SubCool> you dont have to.
[06:27] <SubCool> ok. bye
[06:28] <SubCool> blah
[06:28] <SubCool> blah
[06:28] <SubCool> see yall later
[06:34] <stoned> hello
[06:35] <stoned> does a live cd ubuntu 15 not have sshd enabled by defualt
[06:35] <stoned> I booted live usb on my laptop and now I want to ssh into it from desktop but it says connection refused
[06:36] <penos> stoned u need port farwarding on ur modem
[06:37] <auronandace> stoned: you can install the openssh-server package while you are running the live session
[06:38] <auronandace> penos: you only need port forwarding if you are trying to connect from outside that lan
[06:45] <stoned> yeah I figured it out
[06:46] <stoned> sshd was not enabled by default on a live cd
[06:46] <stoned> http://i.imgur.com/YlSy8Hz.png so check this out
[06:46] <stoned> I'm on a toshiba sattelite laptop and I'm trying to get my webcam to work in live cd so I can take a few pics of my paintings
[06:46] <stoned> that I just paitned
[06:46] <stoned> I can't seem to find the webcam listed in lspci or lsusb
[06:47] <stoned> toshiba satellite l875-s7110 laptop model
[06:49] <Guest51163> humm maybe because the server client model of x11 one can obtain when a mouse is clicked at a coordinate the actual GUI client program that was at that coordinate as well as other clicked on components
[06:50] <stoned> http://support.toshiba.com/support/staticContentDetail?contentId=3599865&isFromTOCLink=false
[06:50] <stoned> detailed specs
[06:50] <luch0z> hola
[06:50] <stoned> let's ee if we can find the chipet
[06:50] <stoned> chipset
[06:50] <luch0z> alguien habla español
[06:50] <luch0z>  ?=
[06:51] <somsip> !es | luch0z
[06:51] <JustMozzy> good morning everyone. how are you guys doing? is there a good reason why dnsmasq is preinstalled with ubuntu 14.04?
[06:51] <SubCool> ya tell me to goto windows, but they r windows peeps. they only know windows ways..
[06:51] <SubCool> yall r just being mean.
[06:54] <JustMozzy> who's being mean to SubCool?
[06:54] <SubCool> everyone ;(
[06:55] <cfhowlett> JustMozzy, ask your ubuntu support question
[06:55] <JustMozzy> cfhowlett: I did
[06:55] <JustMozzy> "is there a good reason why dnsmasq is preinstalled with ubuntu 14.04?"
[06:56] <teiion> hi, anyone have idea what ssh/key-related daemons are started in a Unity session? key-based/passwordless ssh login works only in Unity, but not under Fluxbox
[06:56] <JustMozzy> I read something about it being hardcoded in the network manager. but can I safely remove it? I kinda want the port 53 be freed
[06:57] <JustMozzy> teiion: sshd?
[06:57] <OerHeks> JustMozzy, DNSmasq provides two services, DNS & DHCP (including features relating to network boot)
[06:58] <JustMozzy> OerHeks: ah... do better not to remove it
[06:58] <OerHeks> so if you manage those 2 yourself, you can delete..
[06:58] <JustMozzy> OerHeks: hmm... probably gotta go a different way. hello docker :D
[06:59] <OerHeks> teiion, passwordless ssh is just a config change.
[07:01] <xok> всем привет
[07:02] <cfhowlett> !ru | xok
[07:02] <teiion> OerHeks: apparently it isn't. Unity is starting something or setting some var - that's missing when runing fluxbox so I can't login passwordless. It's ridiculous! I will go look at ssh -vvv under unity
[07:06] <OerHeks> teiion, I have no idea why and/or if passwordless auth is missing in /etc/ssh/sshd_config for fluxbox, never used that DE
[07:08] <Fod_> Morning guys. whats the best FTP software out there?
[07:08] <Fod_> I've got a ubuntu server with ssh. just looking at a ftp programme for it now
[07:08] <cfhowlett> Fod_, no such thing as "best" ...
[07:09] <cfhowlett> use the one you prefer/understand
[07:09] <OerHeks> Fod_, vsftpd is populair, but like cfhowlett says: there is no single best.
[07:13] <Fod_> okay thank you
[07:13] <Fod_> i've just been setting up vsftpd
[07:14] <Fod_> Humm, i just get a timeout, do you think the firewall could be stopping it?
[07:16] <Fod_> actually, got it :) needed port 22 and my key
[07:17] <OerHeks> 2 tutorials, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd && https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[07:18] <Fod_> thank you guys
[07:18] <OerHeks> Fod_, have fun :-)
[07:19] <Fod_> downloading my site now :)
[07:19] <edimax> Hi, I'm trying to install opencl. My AMD device is a Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series [1002:6760] . AMD's provided opencl driver comes with the caveat that "The AMD OpenCL 2.0 driver is compatible with AMD graphics products based on GCN first generation products or higher." I've tried to check if my GPU is or isn't GCN capable, but have been unable to find out. In the meantime, installation has failed. Any suggestions? Details at http://pa
 stebin.com/J4fqdAeY
[07:22] <lilmoe> any idea whats the best program to download for rooting android?
[07:22] <lilmoe> on ubuntu please
[07:24] <cfhowlett> lilmoe, ask #android for recommendations
[07:24] <ObrienDave> heimdahl
[07:25] <ObrienDave> (probably not spelled correctly)
[07:25] <cfhowlett> dah!
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> !info heimdal
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> !info heimdall
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[07:25] <OerHeks> heimdall
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> !find heimdall
[07:26] <ObrienDave> iirc you can also do it through ADB
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> thats the one
[07:29] <Mathisen> how is ubuntu on phones ? i been using cyagenmod, is samsung s4 suported ?
[07:29] <cfhowlett> !touch | Mathisen
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[07:31] <somsip> !ops
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[07:37] <thomas_> thomas
[07:37] <thomas> hi
[07:37] <Guest70301> hi
[07:37] <ObrienDave> dang, and i missed it ;P
[07:38] <SCHAAP137> mornink
[07:39] <stoned> whoah
[07:40] <stoned> thomas, what are you doing here?
[07:40] <stoned> I didn't know you used an ubuntu
[07:40] <thomas> just spying on you, obviously
[07:40] <stoned> hehe
[07:40] <thomas> ;)
[07:40] <thomas> i do useubuntu!
[07:40] <stoned> http://i.imgur.com/BAPVdTR.png
[07:40] <thomas> insert space
[07:40] <stoned> lookit what I had to go through after 5 years of not using linux
[07:40] <stoned> to find out how to make my webcam work
[07:40] <stoned> Finally found it, it works automatically
[07:40] <stoned> lot has changed in 5 years
[07:41] <stoned> I feel ... old.
[07:41] <stoned> http://i.imgur.com/OLvgGgV.png had to find device upper/lower and delve into sysfs and look at the char and find the device driver
[07:41] <stoned> I thought I would have to get a driver for my webcam but it works automatically
[07:41] <stoned> that's nice.
[07:42] <stoned> And ubuntu live cd doesn't even have sshd installed, you have to do it manually
[07:42] <stoned> then you have to su to root and setup a password for the ubuntu user so you can even login
[07:42] <stoned> still ubuntu could use work
[07:43] <stoned> I can't believe no one in the ENTIRE ubuntu community thought, hey, maybe someone is on a headless server for a live cd, let's enable sshd by default on live cd
[07:43] <stoned> It's no one thought of that. At all. Boggles my mind. Millions of people, and nobody thought that.
[07:43] <stoned> Sure you'd like use the sever version, but if i want to use the desktop iso and ssh in, I gotta go through all this.
[07:43] <OerHeks> stoned, Yes, ubuntu live iso could include all 301.453 programs and services .. then it would be an Blue Ray :-D
[07:43] <stoned> Extra work which can be avoided if you include sshd
[07:43] <stoned> sshd is vital man.
[07:44] <stoned> It's not like every other needless service.
[07:44] <OerHeks> No it is not.
[07:44] <stoned> I think it is.
[07:44] <cfhowlett> stoned, less rant in this channel please.  take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:44] <Flannel> stoned: The easier way to install on a headless server is the mini CD, it used to be the alternate CD, but they got rid of that.
[07:44] <stoned> Flannel, well, I needed to get my laptop to work. The hdd got bad and it had windows, and I had to use usb live to get ubuntu on it so I could use the webcam to take picture of the painting I just made
[07:45] <stoned> so I had a ubuntu 15 desktop iso already
[07:46] <stoned> So I 've not used linux in over 5 years so I dunno what's happening in the ways of things.
[07:47] <stoned> Flannel, it wasn't a headless server but I think enabling live cd to have sshd isn't a bad idea. You just pop usb/dvd in there, and can connect to that m achien over ssh from any other. Some uses cases. It's just easier if one doesen't have to go through the steps of installing it. Also b/c a lot of times you may have lcoal networking but not internet, so getting packages is a hassle
[07:47] <stoned> It's a valid opinion, not rant.
[07:47] <stoned> :)
[07:48] <Flannel> stoned: There's technical issues with that and the way the desktop CD is assembled and installed.  But yes, it would have some use-cases.
[07:48] <stoned> I understnad that. And thank you for acknowledging that too.
[07:51] <stoned> thomas, quit spying on me! hehe. Goodnight.
[08:15] <Fudge> hi having trouble with an infrared receiver, its just called pc remote but when I bought it calimed to be r-pi compatible. I have it on a trusty machine through an external drive bay with usb hnothing other than the root hub comes up in lsusb and dmesg shows [usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 18 using ehci-pci | [usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=05e3, idProduct=0608
[08:15] <Fudge> [usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0
[08:39] <barnes> I have a question on the use of mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt in sources.list why is it not more dynamic to not include mirrors that are not up2date?
[08:39] <barnes> looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors there is a lott of mirrors running 0ne or more days behind
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> barnes: there was issues with .au mirrors, several users came to report
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> barnes: maybe the #ubuntu-mirrors know more of it?
[08:43] <barnes> i would like to have some dynamic way of removing mirrors not up 3 date
[08:44] <barnes> i use apt-cacher-ng on a proxy but since the servers are located in malta it get's mirrors in Italy that offcource are not up2date
[08:45] <barnes> and when i patch the system i would like to know that only mirrors that are up2date are used
[08:46] <barnes> i guess i can write a script for it to change the source for proxy servers mirrors but it would be good if there were a better way of doing it
[08:51] <Fudge> or you could wait for the bug to be resolved and not worry
[08:53] <hypermist> so UCK is now stuck on Starting Console Application
[08:53] <hypermist> for like hours
[08:54] <barnes> Fudge: which  bug is that?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> !uck | hypermist
[08:55] <hypermist> i have it installed lotuspsychje
[08:55] <hypermist> hypermist, its just stuck on Console Application.
[08:55] <hypermist> Doing nothing
[08:55] <hypermist> Apart from saying that
[08:55] <hypermist> for atleast 2hrs or more
[08:56] <Fudge> barnes:  lotuspsychje  said several users have reported, search launchypad for a recent bug mate
[08:58] <BlitzHere> Ok, guys, need a quick bit of advice. A friend of mine is interested in using Ubuntu TOUCH on a lightweight thin ultrabook. She's used Ubuntu and likes it more than Windows - to the point that she'll ditch windows...but she likes the form factor of the Surface Pro 3
[08:59] <BlitzHere> Is there any other lightweight ultrabook with a touchscreen. Detachable keyboards, and 180 rotation is a nice plus but not necessary
[09:00] <BlitzHere> which, of course, is known to work with Ubuntu
[09:02] <lnac> ..
[09:03] <lotuspsychje_> BlitzHere: i would not advise surface pro's with ubuntu, alot of manual fixxing on them
[09:03] <lotuspsychje_> BlitzHere: i would go for regular laptop + ubuntu or nexus7 + ubuntu touch
[09:04] <BlitzHere> She's already got a Nexus 9
[09:04] <BlitzHere> ...can you put Ubuntu touch on a Nexus 9?
[09:05] <lotuspsychje_> BlitzHere: not yet mate, check devices at #ubuntu-touch
 ok, I'll head over there. Didn't realize there was a dedicated channel for that. Thaks!
[09:05] <BlitzHere> join #ubuntu-touch
[09:06] <lotuspsychje_> BlitzHere: you can also buy a touch laptop and install the regular ubuntu desktop, also works
[09:06] <lotuspsychje_> BlitzHere: i would never buy touch based laptop, but thats only my opinion
 That's exactly what I want to know. What touch laptops (specifically lightweight ultrabooks) are there that are fuly compatible with Ubuntu
[09:08] <BlitzHere> I'm not a big fan of touch either
[09:09] <BlitzHere> but tthat's what's ased for
[09:10] <hypermist> SO UCK from the ubuntu software centre. doesnt work i guess
[09:10] <hypermist> AWESOME
[09:11] <niese> Hi, if I would like to add "/opt/local/include", "/opt/local/bin" and "/opt/local/lib" as default search location for headers and libs (e.g. cmake, gcc, qtcreator), where do I need to add them. Adding it to "$PATH" in ".profile"  does not seems to work for me.
[09:13] <khildin> niese, did you try this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9151491/extending-default-lib-search-path-in-ubuntu
[09:14] <khildin> create (as root) a new file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ containing, the new path.
[09:14] <khildin> For example:
[09:14] <khildin>     # echo "/path-to-your-libs/" > /etc/ld.so.conf.d/your.conf
[09:14] <khildin> after that run
[09:14] <khildin>     sudo ldconfig
[09:14] <khildin> No need to change libc.conf.
[09:15] <lotuspsychje_> BlitzHere: normally 14.04 works pretty well with touc based laptops, maybe lookup your brand name before buying for known bugs
[09:16] <niese> khildin: I seems to work. thx.
[09:16] <khildin> yw
[09:41] <pmax> #ubuntu-help
[09:42] <lotuspsychje_> pmax: ask your question please
[09:42] <T3DDY> Hello?
[09:42] <pmax> sory just testing...
[09:42] <lotuspsychje_> T3DDY: yes?
[09:43] <T3DDY> Does anyone here have an Ubuntu server?
[09:43] <xeron> no
[09:43] <lotuspsychje_> T3DDY: ask your real question or join #ubuntu-server
[09:43] <T3DDY> No one?
[09:43] <OerHeks> The guys in #ubuntu-server most likely
[09:43] <T3DDY> So everyone here has Ubuntu desktop?
[09:43] <xeron> join #php
[09:44] <hypermist> so is their no thing called Package manager for UCK anymore ?
[09:44] <OerHeks> T3DDY, why don't you ask your real question, this is not a polling channel
[09:44] <hypermist> and only Console Appilcation
[09:44] <T3DDY> I was going to ask if Ubuntu desktop was better than Windows?
[09:44] <hypermist> that doesnt even work anyway
[09:44] <Osoolo> hi
[09:44] <hateball> !best | T3DDY
[09:44] <hateball> :|
[09:44] <Osoolo> anyone there
[09:45] <lotuspsychje_> Osoolo: 1800 users are
[09:45] <hateball> ubottu: I am sorry you have been stripped of so many useful factoids
[09:45] <T3DDY> Is Ubuntu desktop better than Windows 10 in gaming??
[09:45] <Osoolo> i have problem installing fedora 22 where should i get help with it ?
[09:46] <lotuspsychje_> hateball: alot of cool new ones have added also :p
[09:46] <lotuspsychje_> Osoolo: to the fedora channel
[09:46] <Osoolo> ok
[09:46] <Osoolo> i dont know how to use IRC sorry
[09:47] <lotuspsychje_> Osoolo: type /join #fedora and register
[09:47] <T3DDY> Is Ubuntu desktop better than Windows 10 in gaming since games are more supported in windows??
[09:47] <hateball> T3DDY: It is very game dependent, as well on your hardware (use nvidia or cry), but generally Windows is still "better" for gaming. That said, there are enough games to keep you occupied on Linux
[09:47] <OerHeks> T3DDY, yes, ubuntu is superior.
[09:47] <Osoolo> thank you
[09:47] <Osoolo> soo much
[09:48] <T3DDY> Thanks hateball
[09:48] <T3DDY> Thanks OerHeks
[09:48] <lotuspsychje_> T3DDY: steam, playonlinux and wine can also help you
[09:48] <hateball> T3DDY: if you mostly play using steam, #steamlug is a good place to get answers
[09:49] <hypermist> so what do i do about UCK Not working at all
[09:49] <hypermist> By working at all.
[09:49] <hypermist> I mean Starting Console Application sits there for hours...
[09:49] <hypermist> DOing 100% nothing
[09:49] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: what are you trying to do in the first place mate?
[09:49] <hypermist> lotuspsychje_, use UCK to modify linux...
[09:49] <hypermist> well ubuntu
[09:50] <hypermist> I can't even select package manager only Console appilcation.
[09:50] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: modify what exactly
[09:50] <hypermist> But what'd you know it doesnt work
[09:50] <hypermist> lotuspsychje_, the packages to make a custom LIVECD
[09:50] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: remastersys or lookup unattended ubuntu ways
[09:52] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[09:53] <hypermist> well the UCK method doesnt work so thats poop
[09:53] <hypermist> but i can follow the other method
[09:55] <T3DDY> Can Ubuntu be installed on Mac?
[09:55] <lotuspsychje_> !mac | T3DDY
[09:55] <T3DDY> On a Mac.
[09:55] <OerHeks> T3DDY, sure
[09:56] <T3DDY> Thanks
[09:56] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: wich ubuntu version your trying uck on?
[09:56] <hypermist> lotuspsychje_, 15.04
[09:56] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: try 14.04 for a more stable experience
[09:56] <hypermist> GAH that'll be like another 1hr download :(
[09:56] <T3DDY> You guys are so much better than Google!
[09:56] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: did you launch uck from terminal to see errors?
[09:57] <hypermist> lotuspsychje_, i ran the program which opens aterminal
[09:57] <hypermist> No errors
[09:57] <hypermist> Just Says Starting Console Application.... and it sat there for liek 3hrs
[09:57] <lotuspsychje_> T3DDY: of course, this is an opensource community, welcome to ubuntu!
[09:57] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: try launching uck from terminal from start
[09:58] <hypermist> how can i do that lotuspsychje_ ?
[09:58] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: type uck in a terminal
[09:59] <hypermist> says uck not found as a command
[09:59] <T3DDY> Can Mac dual boot mac osx and Ubuntu?
[09:59] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: try uck-gui
[10:00] <lotuspsychje_> !dualboot | T3DDY yes
[10:00] <T3DDY> Thankyou !
[10:01] <hypermist> okay
[10:02] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: you can also browse known bugs here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/uck/
[10:07] <Halion-x> hi to all
[10:08] <lotuspsychje_> Halion-x: welcome, what can we do for you?
[10:09] <XeonSquared> Yay, the AARNet mirror is back
[10:09] <lotuspsychje_> !yay | XeonSquared
[10:09] <lotuspsychje_> XeonSquared: did they mention what was wrong?
[10:10] <hypermist> to many arguments on line 44 for the script.
[10:10] <hypermist> Im guessing lotuspsychje_ that means nope
[10:10] <hypermist> 144 *
[10:11] <XeonSquared> Haven't seen anything, but \o/
[10:18] <al-damiri> Hi #ubuntu.
[10:18] <T3DDY> Hello
[10:18] <al-damiri> I have installed Ubuntu Trusty Tahr and my Ctrl, Alt, Shift and Super keys stick and doesn't release when I press it.
[10:18] <al-damiri> http://askubuntu.com/questions/676322/ubuntu-trusty-tahr-ctrl-alt-shift-and-super-windows-keys-sticks
[10:18] <al-damiri> It was working fine in Precise.
[10:19] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: is this what happens? https://bugs.launchpad.net/uck/+bug/1461415
[10:19] <al-damiri> I have installed the 64-bit version and am using a Dell Inspiron N5110 laptop.
[10:19] <hypermist> exactly lotuspsychje_ xD
[10:20] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: its on 15.04, so i would try 14.04 as the bug is undecided
[10:20] <lotuspsychje_> hypermist: or try other tools like remastersys
[10:21] <hypermist> okay
[10:28] <someone235> How can I share my screen with another guy with OSX?
[10:30] <artisan_pickle> someone235: vnc
[10:30] <EdwardIII> hey. i run php 5.5 from ondrej's repo, all works pretty well but i have odd issues with php5-fpm's startup script
[10:30] <EdwardIII> not sure if it's like a verison conflict or something
[10:32] <hateball> someone235: does it need to be free software? teamviewer works on linux as well otherwise
[10:32] <edimax> skype also works
[10:38] <Mablevi> HI
[10:42] <anew> sudo a2enmod rewrite i ran this but the site is still not in sites-enabled
[10:58] <Mathisen> restart apache ?
[11:00] <santosxen> Hey guys, is it possible to show your emails DIRECTLY as a "widget" on your desktop?
[11:02] <lotuspsychje_> !info gm-notify | santosxen
[11:03] <lotuspsychje_> santosxen: or maybe a conky plugin
[11:06] <santosxen> SRY my Xchat crashed! Is it somehow possible to show your "email folder" as a permanent widget on desktop?
[11:12] <ilk> you got KDE?
[11:13] <santosxen> @ilk , no xfce
[11:14] <ilk> hmmm gmail has desktop notifications....i dont know xfce too well
[11:20] <bhanu_> hi
[11:32] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:41] <duser8> how do I set a password for vnc-connection with VINAGRE? e.g. vinagre 192.168.56.100 --password 123 ??
[11:45] <hasia> hello
[11:50] <anonymous> Hi
[11:52] <Sacrosantic> Hello I need help my laptop running lxde environment always stack at boot up process when reaching the add swap stage. But when I restart it boots completely... I have been doing this for long it's annoying
[11:52] <Ziggurat> I am trying to boot Ubuntu on Baytrail, and I compiled Grub for 32bit and put it in an Ubuntu 64bit usb stick. Grub boots fine, and when I try to select try Ubuntu, I get two lines of text disappearing before I can read or take a picture, and then only black screen. (backlight is on but black screen nothing happens)
[11:54] <TJ-> Ziggurat: the 2 lines you miss are likely GRUB's "Loading linux .." "Loading initial ramdisk"
[11:54] <Ziggurat> TJ- I tried to leave the machine on for 3 hours (I went to the cinema)
[11:54] <TJ-> Ziggurat: have you tried the Recovery boot option?
[11:55] <Ziggurat> TJ- I have not tried the recovery boot option. I can not remember to have seen it. What is it supposed to do?
[11:56] <TJ-> Ziggurat: It's under the Advanced sub-menu of the GRUB boot menu, and does what it's title suggests - provides a recovery root console
[11:57] <Ziggurat> Is the recovery root console running on linux or grub?
[11:57] <rory> yes
[11:57] <TJ-> Ziggurat: Linux. It's a minimal non-graphical boot
[11:57] <Ziggurat> Nice
[11:58] <TJ-> !recovery | Ziggurat
[12:00] <Ziggurat> TJ- ubottu maybe the boot parameters should be different since I am trying to boot from a 32bit Grub into 64bit Linux?
[12:00] <Ziggurat> Is ther a 32bit image of ubuntu with UEFI?
[12:02] <TJ-> Ziggurat: It shouldn't make a difference. Linux kernel loader code will print a message to console if the architecture of the hardware and kernel image aren't compatible.
[12:02] <Ziggurat> Nice
[12:03] <Ziggurat> I used these steps in Virtual box running live 15.10 to compile the 32bit Grub, https://github.com/jfwells/linux-asus-t100ta/tree/master/boot
[12:04] <TJ-> Ziggurat: you know Ubuntu has 32-bit grub-efi packages?
[12:04] <TJ-> !info grub-efi-ia32 | Ziggurat
[12:05] <Ziggurat> So is there an image with a 32bit bootloader?
[12:06] <randomuser_> Just wondering if anyone can help me. Installed Lubuntu 14.04.3 and everything is fine except that I can't connect to a PPTP VPN server. I can do it with my Windows box. Here's my var/log/syslog: http://pastebin.com/Ns6dxkKa
[12:06] <Ziggurat> Or is this something that is supposed to install on a machine that can already boot?
[12:07] <jeffreylevesque> is `ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa` supposed to prompt "Enter passphrase for /home/travis/.ssh/id_rsa:"?
[12:07] <jeffreylevesque> when i created the key pair, i never defined a passphrase
[12:07] <jeffreylevesque> https://travis-ci.org/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/builds/81374574#L81-L87
[12:10] <TJ-> Ziggurat: obviously a .deb package is bundled for install into an active root file-system. That could be a regular booted system, or via a chroot environment for a broken system
[12:11] <jeffreylevesque> maybe i can just pipe the enter command into the `ssh-add` command?
[12:12] <jeffreylevesque> echo -ne '\n' | ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa is that the best solution?
[12:13] <Ziggurat> TJ- so sadly of little use to me, since I need to be able to boot first. The tablet came with dualboot win8 32bit and Android (64bit with 32bit userspace), I am running Win10 32bit right now, but I think Windows is so slow.
[12:14] <Ziggurat> TJ- ubottu Do you have any suggestions of what commands to run to figure out whats wrong if the recovery boot works?
[12:15] <TJ-> Ziggurat: The biggest difference is that recovery mode doesn't switch to a graphical video mode. If doing a 'normal' multi-user boot the screen doesn't display anything, then the problem is with the GPU drivers
[12:16] <Ziggurat> TJ- Sounds reasonable.
[12:16] <Ziggurat> So then I can boot text installer, and install first then install gpu drivers.
[12:17] <Ziggurat> To get a text installer, do i need to install ubuntu server?
[12:18] <TJ-> Ziggurat: Check the ID of the GPU and kernel driver with 'lspci -nnk', and then you can hopefully determine from that which drivers are required and any special workarounds/quirks/settings required
[12:18] <Ziggurat> TJ- At least I know its possible, because its the same SOC as the intel compute stick.
[12:18] <TJ-> Ziggurat: the Ubuntu minimal ISO image also uses the Debian Installer (d-i)
[12:19] <Ziggurat> TJ- does it require network to install? Because Realtek dont answer me with requests for the wlan driver.
[12:20] <Ziggurat> Would it be hard to extract the wlan drivers from a image intended for Intel Compute Stick?
[12:20] <TJ-> Ziggurat: Yes it does, so you'd need the Ubuntu Server ISO
[12:21] <TJ-> Ziggurat: no idea; in theory the installer allows you to provide driver files for unknown hardware
[12:23] <Ziggurat> How do driver files look on Linux? Are they like single file static libraries?
[12:25] <TJ-> Ziggurat: If I recall correctly the installer expects .udeb packages containing kernel modules built for the installer's kernel version. Kernel modules are xxxx.ko files usually, kept under /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/
[12:26] <Ziggurat> Should I expect problems copying over the .ko files into that folder after install?
[12:27] <Ziggurat> TJ-
[12:28] <Ziggurat> TJ- I excpect the intel gpu drivers to be a bitch if I intendo to copy over, but I mean like wlan, bluetooth, and audio.
[12:30] <TJ-> Ziggurat: Yes, doing that is non-trivial even for experienced installer devs
[12:35] <Ziggurat> TJ- Thanks for the help! I really hope I manage to boot, and learn something while getting thus far.
[12:38] <martinrame> Hi, does anyone found Skype 4.3 stopped working today?, until yesterday it worked without problems.
[12:39] <brothersome> martinrame, Now I see things tumbling too in Skype
[12:40] <martinrame> brothersome: Aparently windows clients also cannot connect.
[12:41] <brothersome> martinrame, Skyp is up but cannot connect - so I see it - strange
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> martinrame: maybe try starting skype from terminal, it might spit out relevant errors
[12:41] <brothersome> lotuspsychje, It is not skype - it is the network
[12:42] <brothersome> Let see if Skype works from a webpage
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> brothersome: then it might show network issues
[12:45] <brothersome> martinrame, in outlook.com it looks normal - perhaps some ports are closed at mikkysoft
[12:46] <TJ-> martinrame: Skype reports a network fault since around 0800 UTC
[12:48] <mripguru> TJ-:  let me guess - their spying systems are down for maintenance? ;)
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> mripguru: hehe :p
[12:49] <martinrame> mripguru: haha
[12:49] <TJ-> I don't use it but I saw a report on the BBC news
[12:50] <brothersome> You can use the beta version on outlook.com / hotmail.com
[12:53] <dp> Shouldn't this work in the sudoers file to allow a user to run "service php5-fpm restart" without needing a password? username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/service php5-fpm
[13:02] <geirha> dp: might need a space after the :   Also, the order of the lines matter
[13:10] <Anthaas> Hi guys - having a bit of an issue getting my trackpad to function correctly, anyone here able to assist? I can't get two finger dragging to work, and from typing "xinput list" I dont think it is even recognised?
[13:11] <Anthaas> New laptop - worth mentioning...
[13:11] <dp> geirha: I'll give both of those a shot; thanks.
[13:13] <pbx> sometimes (like now) when my machine wakes from suspend the backlight controls stop working - the keys make the indicator go up and down but the actual level doesn't change.  xbacklight also has no effect.  anything i can do without logging out or rebooting?
[13:14] <Anthaas> Single tap for click works..
[13:17] <arunangshu> on issuing make command i am getting http://pastebin.com/yqZS4CXn errors what to do
[13:17] <Anthaas> Hmm, would seem I have no synaptics driver installed
[13:19] <Anthaas> Mouse is shown as "PS/2 Generic Mouse"
[13:20] <kakashiAL> I try to install opencv, but ubuntu dont allowe it:
[13:20] <TJ-> arunangshu: the driver source-code you're building doesn't match the kernel version API requirements
[13:20] <kakashiAL> https://paste.xinu.at/v0Vho7/Bash
[13:21] <cfhowlett> kakashiAL, for german language support >>> #ubuntu-de
[13:22] <arunangshu> tj ok then what to look for and how
[13:23] <cfhowlett> kakashiAL, sorry, that was meant for arunangshu
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !de | arunangshu
[13:24] <acer> hi
[13:24] <kakashiAL> cfhowlett: do you have any idea about my ubuntu error?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> kakashiAL, sorry, no can see it from behind the Great Firewall.
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> kakashiAL: did you add 3rd party ppa's?
[13:25] <kakashiAL> lotuspsychje: not that I know
[13:25] <acer> i installed ubuntu onacer aspire e5 571 nx.mltsi.006  but no wireless no ethernet working. how to get and add drivers
[13:25] <cfhowlett> !wifi | acer
[13:25] <acer> i will be thankful
[13:26] <kakashiAL> lotuspsychje: do you understand the error that I get?
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> acer: ubuntu version and wifi chipset please?
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> kakashiAL: sorry, its german
[13:26] <hateball> acer: what wifi chipset is it? run "lspci" or "lsusb" in a terminal to find out
[13:26] <acer> how to start terminal i am new
[13:27] <hateball> !terminal | acer
[13:27] <kakashiAL> lotuspsychje: depends on: libopencv-objdetect-dev (= 2.4.8+dfsg1-2ubuntu1) should not be installed
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> !info libopencv-objdetect-dev
[13:34] <math_> dustin
[13:35] <math_> hello
[13:36] <math_> hello
[13:37] <math_> hello
[13:37] <math_> helo
[13:37] <math_> hello
[13:37] <math_> hi
[13:37] <math_> hi
[13:37] <math_> hi
[13:38] <arunangshu> what to look for matching driver source-code and kernel version api???
[13:40] <bozsikarmand> Hi! I'd like to share a folder between two ubuntu host. On my machine I shared my Public folder, then Samba got installed. In nautilus when i click on Browse network then windows nwtwork then workgroup I have to type in a password. E.g.: my username is test1 so I set sudo smbpasswd -a test1
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> !samba | bozsikarmand
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> bozsikarmand: try also the #samba channel
[13:41] <aakka> Hello
[13:42] <aakka> Why does the MATE system monitor show different values when compared to free -m command? Free-m shows that much more memory is being used
[13:42] <auronandace> aakka: maybe mate doesn't show what has been chached
[13:44] <aakka> auronandace: Ok, but what dows that mean? On a computer with 512 mb of ram that will affect it right? Which values should i take into account?
[13:44] <arunangshu> what to look for matching driver source-code and kernel version api???
[13:47] <aakka> auronandace: Is that cache affecting RAM memory or is it just stored on the hard drive?
[13:49] <auronandace> aakka: in general cache is used to keep stuff in memory just in case it is needed and usually gets flushed when new stuff needs ram
[13:49] <aakka> auronandace: You mean RAM?
[13:50] <aakka> when you said memory or did you mean hard disk?
[13:50] <auronandace> aakka: ram
[13:51] <aakka> auronandace: So if i only have 512mb of ram what should i do?
[13:51] <aakka> Also... is Xfce lighter on resources than xfce?
[13:51] <auronandace> aakka: 512mb of ram is not much nowadays
[13:51] <aakka> than mate... sorry
[13:52] <aakka> auronandace: Which one do you think is lighter?
[13:52] <dr_sweets> well, am I still on
[13:52] <auronandace> aakka: i've never liked gnome2 and don't use mate so i can't comment on how heavy they are
[13:52] <aakka> Ok. Thanks.
[13:52] <mat1tc> hi all
 they are very much the same.
[13:53] <BlackPanx> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-FjMWPHq2SpmV6Z3yK35ScVYOG-o7CD9aJn5GSD42Ew/edit?pli=1#gid=0
[13:53] <BlackPanx> here's a document
[13:53] <auronandace> BlackPanx: he left
[13:53] <BlackPanx> oh
[13:53] <mat1tc> I w;oy
[13:53] <BlackPanx> damn
[13:53] <mat1tc> as hoping for some keyboard related help
[13:53] <mat1tc> (as you can see from my message... the w key is not always working)
[13:54] <BlackPanx> um
[13:54] <BlackPanx> did you try disabling numlock ? :D
[13:54] <mat1tc> no number number pad!
[13:54] <BlackPanx> ok.
[13:54] <mat1tc> also a problem with the arrow keys
[13:55] <cfhowlett> mat1tc, same issue!  my "m" key is acting funky all of a sudden
[13:55] <mat1tc> it started after I accidentally disable the wrong input from terminal (was disabling the touch screen)
[13:55] <BlackPanx> they dont work, or they work unexpected ?
[13:55] <mat1tc> unexpected
[13:55] <BlackPanx> type reset
[13:55] <BlackPanx> in terminal
[13:55] <mat1tc> sometimes fine, sometimes it does other keys
[13:55] <BlackPanx> hum
[13:55] <BlackPanx> well sometimes if you cat a file or something that's binary, can mess up your terminal and keyboard...
[13:55] <BlackPanx> try typing reset in console
[13:56] <BlackPanx> then try again
[13:56] <mat1tc> ok
[13:56] <mat1tc> problem still thre, seems limited to the w key, arrow keys and the number 2!
[13:57] <mat1tc> at the time, I had an external keyboard in, when I disabled the internal one through terminal
[13:57] <mat1tc> renabled it... problem wo
[13:57] <mat1tc> ;as there
[13:57] <mat1tc> and that's an exmple of wyhat it does!
[13:58] <mat1tc> (also that second y, I'm not that bad a typist ;))
[13:58] <BlackPanx> seems like strange driver issue.
[13:58] <mat1tc> it's very frustrating, any suggestions?
[13:59] <BlackPanx> did you try unplugging the keyboard and plugging it into another usb port ?
[13:59] <mat1tc> it's the internal laptop one
[13:59] <BlackPanx> oh
[13:59] <BlackPanx> ouch
[13:59] <BlackPanx> :P
[13:59] <mat1tc> works fine in wy;oindows
[14:00] <BlackPanx> i doubt it's hardware issue
[14:00] <BlackPanx> so yes, might be something with keyboard settings
[14:00] <BlackPanx> did you try to play with them yet ?
[14:00] <mat1tc> yep, gone through them all
[14:01] <BlackPanx> and keyboard model ?
[14:01] <BlackPanx> http://picpaste.com/pics/Selection_017-JORX36VB.1442844107.png
[14:01] <BlackPanx> check this
[14:02] <BlackPanx> i suggest you resetting it to default, and before that make screenshot of each tab
[14:02] <BlackPanx> so you will know what it was before you reset it to defaults
[14:03] <mat1tc> don't have those same optoins
[14:04] <BlackPanx> well find keyboard properties and there should be some additional settings
[14:04] <mat1tc> not for model
[14:05] <dr_sweets> BlackPanx, could you tell me why my sheel always stops when I log off ??
[14:05] <dr_sweets> SHELL
[14:07] <BlackPanx> mat1tc: sorry i use ubuntu mate, not really sure where in ubuntu you can set model or reset it to defaults. it must be something with you accidentally changing it somehow.
[14:08] <dr_sweets> I have the keyboard settings on top of my screen, where the clock is and more
[14:08] <mat1tc> BlackPanx: ok thank - have gone through all the options and cant' find anythign there, might look at the files the control keybindings. Just really odd that it's so intermittent.
[14:09] <JustPie_Work> Hey all, I'm running into a strange issue. It seems as if randomly i get a 'cannot write to tmp folder' in ubuntu server ( 14 ) and it seems to be a permissions issue. It doesn't happen too often, and the only solution i could find is rebooting. Chown/Chmod doesn't fix the issue. Any ideas on what it might be?
[14:10] <BlackPanx> dr_sweets what do you mean by stops working ? :) of course when you log off, your current running scripts in terminal will stop. you have to send them to background with & if you want that... or run them as service.
[14:11] <dr_sweets> I use it as a server and log on elsewhere, but everytime I log OFF from there, the shell logs off too
[14:11] <BlackPanx> JustPie_Work are you sure you didn't run out of space on tmp ?
[14:11] <dr_sweets> not just me logging off of the shell, but log of totally
 i still don't understand what exactly you are referring to. you ssh to your server and then ssh to another server ? then what ?
[14:12] <dr_sweets> plah, me and trying to explain :P
[14:13] <dr_sweets> I am using a BNC, and when I log on it is OK, but when I log off,, it terminates the BNC
[14:13] <JustPie_Work> BlackPanx: I don't believe it was space issue as there was less than a gig of temp files. Does ubuntu define a max folder size for temp anywhere so i can check?
[14:13] <BlackPanx> okay. what bnc are you using. it has to be setting on bnc to stay persistent. znc for example is persistent bnc.
[14:14] <BlackPanx> JustPie_Work df -h and check? :)
[14:14] <dr_sweets> I am using at the moment sbnc, tried the znc and it wouldn't start
[14:15] <dr_sweets> I used the old psyBNC and that worked for a long time on a kernel of OPEN SUSE
[14:15] <BlackPanx> i think you should ask on sbnc's support for this, as it's clearly not ubuntu issue. :)
[14:16] <dr_sweets> ok, well :) one has to try :)
[14:16] <BlackPanx> you can always run stuff in screen
[14:16] <dr_sweets> thanks anyways :)
[14:16] <BlackPanx> and then detach
[14:16] <BlackPanx> from screen
[14:16] <BlackPanx> and then reattach when you want to
[14:16] <BlackPanx> but i'm sorry i dont know sbnc :(
[14:16] <BlackPanx> i use znc and works perfectly
[14:17] <dr_sweets> we all are different :P
[14:17] <BlackPanx> sure.
[14:17] <dr_sweets> but will do some more ,,, "research" :)
[14:17] <JustPie_Work> BlackPanx: Good call. Thanks! I'll be sure to try this the next time it happens.
[14:18] <BlackPanx> JustPie_Work, just check it now if it's on own partition
[14:18] <BlackPanx> and that you haven't run out of space on it
[14:18] <BlackPanx> because what you are referring to as reboot, reboot deletes everything in tmp
[14:18] <BlackPanx> and then as you are saying... after a while, when tmp gets bloaty again
[14:18] <BlackPanx> you face same problems
[14:19] <BlackPanx> that's why i'm thinking this might be the case
[14:19] <BlackPanx> because by default tmp is 777 chmodded. unless you manually change that
[14:19] <BlackPanx> and on some systems it's also nosuid and noexec mountable, so you can't really execute stuff there for security reasons
[14:19] <BlackPanx> and then you could get permission denied also
[14:19] <scorpion01> adam
[14:20] <BlackPanx> other problem that i can think of regarding permission denied is chattr permissions... you can check with lsattr /tmp/* , but i really really doubt this is the case
[14:20] <BlackPanx> if you chattr a file with +i for example, you won't be able to modify it or delete it, no matter if you chmodded it to 777
[14:21] <BlackPanx> you would get permission denied
[14:21] <BlackPanx> if you have too small /tmp and it gets filled, just remove mounting of /tmp or increase size of it.
[14:47] <michiil> hey guys
[14:47] <michiil> my system is waking up from suspend randomly
[14:47] <michiil> whats the best way t debug this?
[14:48] <michiil> or to see why the system woke up?
[14:51] <michiil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12514624/ here is my syslog
[14:51] <michiil> the wakeup is the last thing happening
[14:52] <ioria> http://askubuntu.com/questions/509017/desktop-wakes-from-suspend-at-random-14-04
[14:53] <compro> hey
[14:57] <compro> hello
[15:03] <michiil> ioria: well thats not really helping in my case
[15:03] <michiil> waeup via bluetooth is enabled
[15:03] <michiil> because i need it
[15:04] <michiil> but i don't think the harmony hub randomly sends out commands/wakes up my devices
[15:07] <citrix> Hi all
[15:08] <andi_> hello there, i want to use my ipod touch (4. gen) with linux and i wanted to use rhythembox to put music on my ipod, the ipod itself gets recognized from the system and i can have access to it and can download pics and all, but if i drag and drop music in rhythembox it's not in the music app, how can i put music on my ipod?
[15:08] <citrix> I am not able to access my weserver from outer network
[15:08] <andi_> citrix: open up ports?
[15:08] <citrix> I already forwarded 80 and 8080
[15:08] <citrix> from router
[15:09] <citrix> andi_, I already opened them from router
[15:09] <andi_> check if its running
[15:09] <citrix> and checked with canyouseeme.org
[15:10] <citrix> and other port checker websites
[15:10] <citrix> port 80 is opened
[15:10] <citrix> how to check on linux it is working or not
[15:10] <andi_> just type in your browser localhost:80
[15:10] <andi_> you should end up on your webserver
[15:24] <citrix__> andi_, localhost:80
[15:24] <citrix__> shows my apache web page
[15:24] <citrix__> it is working
[15:24] <andi_> then you have probably routing probkems
[15:24] <citrix__> but my <ip>:80 do not work
[15:25] <andi_> s/probkems/problems
[15:25] <andi_> check ip's and port forwarding/firewall
[15:25] <citrix__> andi_, how to check that?
[15:25] <tgm4883> citrix__: is this webserver at your house or some VPS you rent?
[15:26] <citrix__> tgm4883, it is at my house
[15:26] <citrix__> this pc is server.
[15:26] <tgm4883> citrix__: it's possible your ISP is blocking those ports
[15:26] <citrix__> No ISP is not blocking
[15:26] <andi_> citrix__: go on your router, check the ports, rules etc
[15:26] <tgm4883> citrix__: you're sure?
[15:27] <citrix__> tgm4883, yes on canyouseeme.org i can see, it says ISP is not blocking
[15:27] <andi_> if it's open, probably you route it the wrong way
[15:32] <AfterDarkness> hello, got a question. is the print as pdf feature an OS feature? if so, is there a way to know the encoding of the pdf?
[15:33] <andi_> AfterDarkness: not sure what you mean with OS feature, but the print to pdf is probably ghostscript printer
[15:33] <AfterDarkness> I am trying to use pandoc on the resulting pdf but getting an error indicating that it is not UTF-8
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> what's pandoc?
[15:34] <zamba> anyone familiar with containers here? how can i check if a container is running ok? what about a "console" into it?
[15:34] <AfterDarkness> use man pandoc
[15:35] <andi_> AfterDarkness: what you want to do in the first place?
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> zamba  lxc? if yes: lxc-ls --fancy
[15:36] <AfterDarkness> andi_, I want to make a .docx file from a pdf
[15:36] <tgm4883> AfterDarkness: out of curiosity, why?
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> zamba  with sudo
[15:37] <reisio> whatis pandoc; apropos pandoc, etc.
[15:37] <andi_> Oo, AfterDarkness use openoffice/libreoffice they have pdf import tools
[15:37] <AfterDarkness> ill try that andi_ ty
[15:37] <andi_> but the conversion will not be 100 %
[15:38] <andi_> AfterDarkness: also maybe try this
[15:38] <andi_> https://www.pdftoword.com/
[15:38] <AfterDarkness> tgm4883, what I am doing is kind of silly(or just straight up silly). I am making a html from mardown file that has java in it. So I can't just convert the html to pdf I need to run the html first then save it as pdf
[15:39] <AfterDarkness> when I do that in chrome everything is fine, except the encoding isn't what I was hoping for
[15:39] <andi_> AfterDarkness: fix your stuff :P
[15:39] <AfterDarkness> so that I can recovert the pdf back to a .docx file when I want to
[15:39] <andi_> that's just straight up bad D
[15:39] <AfterDarkness> I know xDS
[15:40] <andi_> nevermind, you'll have your reasons
[15:40] <andi_> just pdf to *  is very bad
[15:40] <AfterDarkness> I am just experimenting with stuff
[15:40] <AfterDarkness> I agree
[15:40] <citrix> andi_, even if i am doing telnet <public ip > 80
[15:40] <citrix> it is refusing
[15:40] <AfterDarkness> the problem is html to a docx wont help me
[15:40] <citrix> Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[15:41] <andi_> citrix: you want to telnet your webserver?
[15:41] <andi_> oO
[15:41] <andi_> AfterDarkness: the problem is, docx who wants to use docx?
[15:41] <genii> andi_: Telnet is a good diagnostic toolo to use on any arbitrary port to check for services there
[15:41] <tgm4883> genii: +1
[15:42] <citrix> andi_,  i want webserver
[15:42] <citrix> I was just checking for connectivity
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> isnt docx an ms format?
[15:43] <andi_> genii: sure, he'll get the header and stuff, but he has connection problems from routing, canyouseeme.org already said that the port is open
[15:43] <cfhowlett> it is
[15:43] <citrix> why is it doing so?
[15:43] <AfterDarkness> andi_, i don't but generally I do it for people who aren't necessarily comfortable with plain text
[15:43] <andi_> so why go invastigate further if the port is open or not, check routing tables
[15:43] <citrix> if the port is opened?
[15:43] <citrix> how to check? andi_
[15:44] <andi_> citrix: go on your router and check if the routing fits
[15:44] <tgm4883> citrix: I think that you're fine
[15:45] <citrix> tgm4883, what you mean? :|
[15:45] <tgm4883> citrix: are you just looking for the apache page, or is your content already there
[15:45] <citrix> only apache page
[15:45] <citrix> nothing is there tgm4883
[15:45] <tgm4883> citrix: put a test page in there
[15:45] <tgm4883> like test.html
[15:45] <citrix> Ok
[15:47] <citrix> tgm4883, done
[15:49] <tgm4883> citrix: it's probably some networking issue with going out the same IP address that you're trying to access it on. I can see your apache2 page so it's at least working
[15:53] <tgm4883> I seem to recall that can be an issue, I'm not a networking expert though
[15:56] <deebuls> Good evening . I wanted to update lightdm in precise 11.04. Can anyone suggest the ppa for it?
[15:57] <k1l> deebuls: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[15:57] <deebuls> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:58] <k1l> ok, so its 12.04 :) any reason why you want to update it?
[15:58] <deebuls> k1l : sorry made a mistake precise 12.04 LTS
[16:00] <deebuls> the lightdm uses 30% cpu. I read its bug and fixed in newer version
[16:00] <cfhowlett> deebuls, current 12.04 version is 12.04.5
[16:00] <deebuls> i have 12.04.4
[16:01] <cfhowlett> deebuls, sudo apt full-upgrade will bring you to current
[16:01] <deebuls> will upgrading to 12.04.5 help ?
[16:01] <k1l> lsb_release -d should have told then. maybe you are missing a lot of updates?
[16:01] <cfhowlett> deebuls, might just fix it
[16:01] <ge0rJey> is there any software in linux which has integrated daily expense tracking, bills and importing bank transactions
[16:02] <metalice> hi, im setting postfix+dovecot and while testing im getting this: ehlo: command not found
[16:02] <reisio> ge0rJey: is there any software in any OS That has?
[16:02] <cfhowlett> ge0rJey, look in the software center for personal finance.  gnucash leaps to mind
[16:02] <dwoods> Hey everyone, we’re having problems trying to install Openstack via MAAS and Landscape.  Is this the best room for assistance?
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> dwoods  is that a server? if yes: #ubuntu-server
[16:02] <deebuls> but i dont want to upgrade whole only lightdm
[16:03] <dwoods> Monkey - thanks, I’ll try there.
[16:03] <cfhowlett> deebuls, sudo apt install lightd
[16:03] <k1l> deebuls: can you run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then press "n" and show the result?
[16:03] <cfhowlett> deebuls, sudo apt install lightd
[16:04] <deebuls> cfhowlett : apt install says already to latest version
[16:04] <cfhowlett> deebuls, there you go then ...
[16:05] <ge0rJey> cfhowlett,checked out gnucash website, it sounds complicated to use with ledger model, double entry accounting, something economics students would understand..
[16:05] <ge0rJey> i need something for personal use
[16:06] <diego_> Gnome
[16:06] <ge0rJey> to track my monthy expenses
[16:06] <cfhowlett> ge0rJey, seearch the software center
[16:06] <ge0rJey> *monthly
[16:06] <arun_> hi
[16:07] <tgm4883> ge0rJey: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/search/?q=personal+finance&op=
[16:07] <tgm4883> ge0rJey: you should follow directions...
[16:07] <arun_> can u help me
[16:07] <Pici> ge0rJey: this probably isn't what you're looking for, but there is a cli ledger program that I've heard good things about, its available in the ledger package, see http://www.ledger-cli.org/ for more.
[16:07] <deebuls> kll: its a big list , but lightdm not present in that
[16:08] <deebuls> k1l: its a big list, but lightdm not present in that
[16:08] <cfhowlett> deebuls, you have the most current lightdm.  what did you expect?
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> ge0rJey  in dash, type 'finance', see what comes up
[16:08] <k1l> !pastebin | deebuls
[16:10] <deebuls> k1l : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12515073/
[16:12] <cfhowlett> deebuls, so you're not running the updated kernel either?
[16:12] <chris66> Hi! I have a problem with my external hdd, I created a new btrfs partition and now I can't copy files to it, it says I have no permission, how do I fix this?
[16:12] <k1l> deebuls: no one can say if your issues doesnt come from missing one of those updates.
[16:12] <deebuls> cfhowlett: the current lightdm takes 30% of cpu . I read in the issues the bug is fixed in latest release
[16:13] <cfhowlett> deebuls, the latest release for 15.04?
[16:13] <cfhowlett> check your sources
[16:13] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: IIRC he's on 12.04
[16:13] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, exactly my point
[16:13] <deebuls> cfhowlett : yes the lightdm release from trusty 14.04
[16:13] <tgm4883> ah
[16:14] <cfhowlett> deebuls, but YOU are not ON trusty 14.04   (for some reason...)
[16:14] <tgm4883> lightdm isn't one of the things backported
[16:14] <deebuls> cfhowlett : no I am on 12.04 . I want to just upgrade lightdm to the version in trusty 14.04
[16:15] <cfhowlett> deebuls,  you MIGHT be able to compile from source.
[16:15] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, chime in if I'm wrong on this ...
[16:15] <deebuls> cfowlett : i tried but somehow it gave me compilation error . I didnt debug
[16:15] <deebuls> cfhowlett : i tried but somehow it gave me compilation error . I didnt debug
[16:15] <hrushikesh> i am having boot problem on acer e5-573-36uy single boot ubuntu 14.04
[16:16] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: deebuls You could, but I'm wondering why not upgrade to 14.04?
[16:16] <hrushikesh> here is my boot repair op
[16:16] <hrushikesh> irc.freenode.net
[16:16] <cfhowlett> deebuls, right.  then you have a choice to make; live with light d not working or do-release-upgrade to 14.04.3
[16:16] <tgm4883> deebuls: one thing you should NOT do is install 14.04 packages on 12.04
[16:16] <hrushikesh> sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/12515019/
[16:17] <deebuls> cfhowlett : i use some s/w which i can only use in 12.04 so stuck with it
[16:17] <hrushikesh> need help with http://paste.ubuntu.com/12515019/
[16:17] <tgm4883> deebuls: out of curiosity, what software?
[16:17] <deebuls> tgm4883, yes i read about it . but what is a safe way to upgrade
[16:17] <chris66> guys! you gotto add Tomahawk in the next release, it's fantastic!
[16:17] <deebuls> tgm4883, ROS hydro
[16:19] <tgm4883> deebuls: apparenlty 14.04 has been supported since Indigo Igloo
[16:20] <deebuls> tgm4883, yes we are migrating to Indigo . but currently we have a huge setup running hydro . so it will take time migrating
[16:20] <hrushikesh> \help
[16:20] <cfhowlett> !patience | hrushikesh,
[16:21] <deebuls> tgm4883, everything works fine . just wanted to upgrade lightdm . ususaly i do by adding a ppa . but i didnt get a propoer ppa for lightdm
[16:21] <tgm4883> deebuls: I don't have an answer for you then. You could attempt to compile, or to backport the fixes into the 12.04 packages. Howerver, I'm not sure which one would be more work compared to upgrading to Igloo
[16:21] <tgm4883> deebuls: Yea I'm not sure you're going to find a PPA for lightdm
[16:22] <deebuls> tgm4883, ok . then i will work on compiling from source
[16:22] <hrushikesh> i was trying something else to get some help about irc ommands , \help was a typo :P
[16:23] <deebuls> cfhowlett, tgm4883 : thanks a lot guys . was first time in irc chat . Thanks for the help :)
[16:23] <cfhowlett> deebuls, best of luck!
[16:23] <chris66> do someone here know hdebuls try this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm
[16:24] <chris66> debuls try this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm
[16:24] <arthur-dent> Could someone please remind me how you reset a password on IRC chat?
[16:24] <chris66> can someone here please tell me how to set permissions on a external hdd?
[16:25] <tgm4883> chris66: the same way you do on an internal hard drive?
[16:25] <arthur-dent> Wait...
[16:25] <arthur-dent> Never mind...
 and how is that? I an kinda new on linux
[16:26] <tgm4883> !permissions
[16:26] <tgm4883> chris66: ^
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> chris66  is the external drive formatted as ext4?
[16:27] <chris66> Moneky: no its btrfs
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> chris66  type chr and then hit tab, see what happens
[16:28] <chris66> Monkeydust: it says command not found
[16:29] <xiaotong> hit tab
[16:29] <chris66> ah it says just chrt
[16:30] <chris66> I have the btrfs tools installed
[16:30] <chris66> this is on a external drive, not the one Ubuntu is installed on
[16:33] <chris66> any ideas guys?
[16:34] <xubuntu> sup
[16:34] <Guest86018> sup
[16:34] <chris66> howdy
[16:35] <Guest86018> xfce is cool, i hate des like gnomeshell and kde becouse they are bloated piece of shits
[16:35] <chris66> I love xfce too, but I'm running Mate now, it's fantastic too, did u try it?
[16:36] <Guest86018> yes, mate and xfce are my favorites
[16:36] <k1l> Guest86018: please keep the language family friendly in here
[16:36] <Guest86018> k
[16:37] <chris66> I love what they did in the Ubuntu Mate version, you can change between a lot of desktop enviroments with just one click, its the Ubuntu Tweak tool, fantastic!:)
[16:37] <Guest86018> yep, its cool
[16:37] <chris66> xfce is not a option though
[16:37] <Guest86018> why?
[16:37] <chris66> no it's only for the Mate desktop
[16:37] <Guest86018> i see
[16:38] <k1l> ubuntu offers to install all the desktop it supports through meta-packages.
[16:38] <k1l> so you can switch on the login screen
[16:38] <chris66> wait I show you my desktop
[16:40] <chris66> here, I tweaked it a bit .) http://postimg.org/image/9qtjm3fhb/
[16:41] <Guest86018> nice
[16:41] <chris66> K11 yes sure, but I meant from inside the desktop
[16:42] <chris66> thanks
[16:42] <tiutemz> Hi chris66
[16:42] <chris66> hi:)
[16:44] <tiutemz> chris66: that'll fix it temporary
[16:44] <chris66> tiutemz> what will?
[16:46] <chris66> tiutemz> how old are you? let me guess 7? :|
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> chris66  i was away... what command was not found?
[16:49] <chris66> Hi! I missunderstod it, it just said ctrf or something simular:)
 when I type chr tab now nothing happens, it says command not found
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> chris66  i mean, here in irc
[16:55] <chris66> ah
[16:55] <chris66> just a lot of names, whats up with that?
[16:56] <k1l> chris66: its called tab-completion (works on terminal the same way) and is used to get the users nick right so they get a highlight mark in their irc lcient
[16:57] <tiutemz> chris66: shoe size
[16:57] <chris66> thanks, I guess I got to learn that
 you are a real asshole, pls leave me alone
[16:59] <k1l> chris66: stop insulting others. last warning!
[16:59] <tiutemz> Ops! chris66 using curse words
[16:59] <chris66> yme?? ou wouldn't believe what private messages he sent me
[17:00] <k1l> if there is a issue report it to the ops in #ubuntu-ops so the ops team can handle it
[17:00] <chris66> he is calling me asshol and nigger in private message, I did nothing to him :/
[17:00] <chris66> yes thanks I will
[17:00]  * tgm4883 sighs
 I got your ip idiot
[17:01] <chris66> prepare to get banned
[17:01] <usuario_> hola
[17:02] <usuario_> buenas tardes
[17:02] <k1l> !es | usuario_
[17:03] <usuario_> ok thank you, sorry
[17:15] <Yami_> What is the best guide to configuring computer to dual boot Ubuntu with Windows 8.1. I think what's confusing me the most is the partitioning part.
[17:17] <al-damiri> Hi #ubuntu.
[17:17] <OerHeks> Yami_, make spacefrom within windows, and boot the live iso, maybe you need this guide !uefi
[17:17] <OerHeks> !uefi
[17:17] <al-damiri> I'm having problems with Trusty Tahr. My Ctrl, Alt, Shift and Super (window) keys stick and doesn't release when pressed.
[17:17] <al-damiri> It was working fine when using Ubuntu 12, now that I have installed the Ubuntu 14 on the same laptop, it is causing issues.
[17:18] <al-damiri> http://askubuntu.com/questions/676322/ubuntu-trusty-tahr-ctrl-alt-shift-and-super-windows-keys-sticks
[17:18] <Cerealkill3r> Hey guys,quick question,I am running ubuntu 15.04 with the default Unity desktop environment and I want to create a group of apps in my launcher,any ideea how I can do this ( without UnityLauncherFolders)
[17:18] <SolarNRG> UEFI has a real problem the motherboard manufacturers have made the decision that everybody ONLY uses Windows 8 and anything else doesn't matter
[17:19] <SolarNRG> even tho windows 8 is worse than windows 7
[17:19] <Yami_> Thanks OerHeks, do I need to defragment my hard drive before I resize within windows?
[17:21] <OerHeks> Yami_, not sure, but not a bad idea anyway.windows itself will show the max you can make free
[17:21] <haporanima> hi , what is the best software to encrypt files before uploading to google drive or dropbox ?? and does archive manager password setting  in ubuntu good enough ??
[17:21] <LtL> Yami_: its a very good idea, yes  defrag then resize within windows.. never fails here
[17:22] <Yami_> Thank you OerHeks and LtL :)
[17:22] <LtL> Yami_: welcome
[17:23] <haporanima> ???
[17:24] <LtL> haporanima: i would use gpg
[17:25] <haporanima> <LtL : is it an encryption or a software ?
[17:26] <OerHeks> !gpg
[17:26] <LtL> haporanima: gnupg is a encrytion software avaiable on all 'nix machines. you need to learn about keys is all.
[17:26] <LtL> *available
[17:26] <MichaelTunnell> how do you submit bugs for Firefox Nightly on Ubuntu? The PPA doesn't allow any submissions. https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily
[17:28] <al-damiri> al-damiri
[17:30] <trism> MichaelTunnell: it seems to be detailed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs (linked from the daily section of here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion )
[17:33] <MichaelTunnell> yea I found the first link, thanks for the second one
[17:36] <Leaviathan> nmap 10.81.0.0
[17:36] <Leaviathan> oops
[17:46] <ubuntu> whoami
[17:51] <alesan> hello
[17:51] <DeXy> hello
[17:52] <alesan> since last night, skype does not want to connect anymore - anybody knows if this is only me or if it's a common issue? I have 4.3.0.37
[17:52] <DeXy> alesan : is only u
[17:52] <Humbedooh> alesan: I know Skype was/is down globally today
[17:53] <DeXy> no, 4 me work all day
[17:53] <Humbedooh> http://memeburn.com/2015/09/skype-working-on-a-fix-as-communication-service-faces-worldwide-outage/ etc
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> Humbedooh  alesan yes, it moved to MS , not long ago
[17:55] <alesan> http://heartbeat.skype.com/2015/09/skype_presence_issues.html?cm_mmc=SMTW_7001B1-Skype%20-%20Support
[17:56] <programo> Can anybody suggest me an IRC channel for C programming language?
[17:56] <alesan> MonkeyDust, not long ago? it's almost ten years I think
[17:57] <ratrace> programo: it's not like there's a million of them to choose from. Try ##c
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> alesan  2011, but, true, that's stiil 4 years
[17:59] <alesan> MonkeyDust, :)
[17:59] <programo> ratrace,  I tried to connect to the channel "/join ##c " , but it says  ##c-unregistered :Cannot send to channel
[17:59] <NegativeFlare> !offtopic
[18:00] <ratrace> programo: maybe it requires you to have a registered account here on Freenode. Also, as other said, that's offtopic for #ubuntu, so if you need more help, google for it please or ask in #freenode
[18:00] <programo> okay ratrace , thanks !
[18:01] <alesan> programo, you definitely need to register with the IRC server. Keep in mind however, that ##C is an advanced channel. Do not go there with newbie questions or homework, they will not like it
[18:10] <haporanima> How To Encrypt files with gpg ?
[18:10] <jpds> haporanima: gpg --encrypt-files
[18:11] <haporanima> <jpds : how to access the help manual to learn how tuse it ?
[18:11] <jpds> haporanima: https://gnupg.org/documentation/index.html
[18:12] <haporanima> jpds : please can you provide specific manual about how to encryp/decrypt files  ?
[18:13] <jpds> haporanima: I'm not going to go and catch the fish for you
[18:13] <jpds> haporanima: You have to learn how to fish for yourself
[18:13] <OerHeks> haporanima, did you not read the url ubottu gave you? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[18:13] <OerHeks> see at the bottom for more
[18:15] <haporanima>  <OerHeks> thats too much to learn , and it is really interesting but i dont have time  to completely understand all about it, see
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> haporanima  reading a manual takes time too
[18:16] <OerHeks> oh, it must be click click
[18:16] <jpds> haporanima: GnuPG is an very powerful tool
[18:17] <jpds> haporanima: If you get it wrong, you could render your files inaccessible
[18:24] <haporanima> how about 7z encrytion feature  is it safe if i you it ? is it crackable ?
[18:24] <reisio> quite safe
 why ?
[18:25] <OerHeks> All is crackable, and no answer will satisfy you i guess
[18:25] <reisio> haporanima: because it is
[18:25] <pbx> haporanima, in evaluating crypto you either 1) are a cryptography expert or 2) trust cryptography experts
[18:25] <reisio> it uses a scheme that is still unknown to be easily broken
[18:25] <haporanima> reisio : i guess only with good password
[18:25] <pbx> haporanima, did you ask here before doing other research?
[18:25] <reisio> well you have to have a good password regardless of encryption scheme
[18:26] <reisio> otherwise you can just type 'abc123' and get in
[18:26] <pbx> haporanima, good keys are always a requirement
[18:26] <reisio> you could have something that would take a hundred million existences to decrypt, and it would still be crap if the password were 'sex'
[18:27] <pbx> but wait reisio that's my ashley madison password. i guess i should change it huh
[18:27] <OS_Connoisseur> lol
[18:28] <OerHeks> pbx naughty girl, that goes offtopic
[18:28] <reisio> pbx: guess it depends on whether you think using ashley madison is scandalous
[18:28] <haporanima> pbx : but i read about password removal software that can actually bypass the enctiption feature it 7z what say you about that ?
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> haporanima  source?
[18:29] <fred__> quit
[18:29] <OerHeks> oh my, it is fud-monday ...
[18:31] <haporanima> <MonkeyDust ; I don't have one , but is it possibel ?
[18:32] <kam>  
[18:32] <OerHeks> haporanima, without source, you are trolling the channel
[18:32] <OS_Connoisseur> Once quantum computers become available enough, all of this "encryption" that we have now will be broken.
[18:33] <AvatarA> OS_Connoisseur, what if they already have them? :p
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> haporanima  is their first target/victim
[18:34] <haporanima> OerHeks : not at all , i guess it's theoriticaly possible , some encryption software can have bugs in them ? right ?
[18:35] <AvatarA> some, but well tested ones have a high probability of being quite alright
[18:36] <AvatarA> plus, if I'm not encrypting child porn and the FBI is not on my tracks I wouldn't worry too much that my neighbour might decrypt pictures with me naked
[18:36] <thatguy> which DE would you recommend if I want to be able to quickly modify it/easily write extensions which integrate well into the de (e.g. putting icons into the bar etc)
[18:36] <OerHeks> how is this related to ubuntu support?
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> haporanima  are your data so important, that anyone would want to target you?
[18:37] <thatguy> lets say which ubuntu DE would you reccomend OerHeks
[18:37] <thatguy> is this channel very strict about being on topic?
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> thatguy  try a few, choose the one you like most
[18:38] <OS_Connoisseur> Almost any of them can do that.
[18:38] <haporanima> AvatarA ; i don't have to be involved in criminal stuff to want to keep my privacy i think
[18:38] <OerHeks> A desktop with great support ... wait that is ubuntu
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> haporanima  ok, now take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or so
[18:40] <haporanima> MonkeyDust : yes sorry , i still have technical questions though
[18:40] <OerHeks>  It depends more on your systemspecs, and wishes .. Kubuntu/Ubuntu for heavy machines, Xubuntu is more lightweight
[18:42] <AvatarA> hmm, I wouldn't say Ubuntu requires quite a heavy machine
[18:42] <AvatarA> but KDE ya, it's the heaviest from what I know (Kubuntu)
[18:42] <OS_Connoisseur> Unity uses more resources than even KDE.
[18:42] <AvatarA> I saw many people say that but I did not personally experience it
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> OS_Connoisseur  yes, that's why there are lighter DE's
[18:43] <AvatarA> actually, Unity is most fluid on my old laptop
[18:43] <thatguy> MonkeyDust, OS_Connoisseur is any of the DE easier to modify with python then the others?
[18:43] <thatguy> yeah no I am linux user for a few years now
[18:43] <OS_Connoisseur> I don't know.
[18:44] <OerHeks> some guy Linus rants about desktops, but changes his view every 6months,...
[18:44] <thatguy> I had all of them running at some point (but most of the time xfce and gnome)
[18:44] <OS_Connoisseur> Unity uses tons of python.
[18:44] <thatguy> but just getting into the idea of modifying them a bit or taking part in development
[18:45] <AvatarA> depends what you want to modify
[18:45] <AvatarA> e.g. plugins are quite easy to write for gnome3
[18:46] <AvatarA> and they can add great functionality
[18:56] <Murdoch5> does anyone have any good web based tools they use for DHCPD management including lease information and reservations?
[18:57] <haporanima> what does this command  do exactly ? gpg --encrypt-files , and how to encrypt spesific file , should i write the name of the file or the location ?
[18:58] <TJ-> haporanima: See "man gpg" it details all the options
[19:02] <goddard> how can i install netbeans with openjdk 8 or 9 instead of 7 ?
[19:06] <SolarNRG> HOW DO I INSTALL .SH FILES?
[19:07] <Fuchs> SolarNRG: you tend not to, you tend to run them. But in most cases this is very much not what you want
[19:07] <Fuchs> SolarNRG: what software are you trying to install, and why not using package management?
[19:07] <Pici> SolarNRG: what does this .sh file represent?
[19:07] <SolarNRG> an experimental platform distro agnostic build of unity 3d for linux
[19:09] <kostkon> SolarNRG, why not use the .deb file?
[19:10] <SolarNRG> do I have to download again?
[19:10] <SolarNRG> seriously?
[19:10] <Fuchs> SolarNRG: I'd recommend it. Installing manually by running a .sh file (usually) bypasses your package management, which can end up with all sorts of issues
[19:11] <SolarNRG> oh alright I'll delete the file then download the .deb, THEN what do I do?
[19:11] <kostkon> SolarNRG, double click on it
[19:12] <SolarNRG> :p cross eyed retarded emoticon
[19:17] <wafflejock1> SolarNRG: yeah the .deb file is a package that Ubuntu can install using it's regular software center installer (or using sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb in a terminal) it'll be compiled configured for running on Ubuntu with whatever flags or configuration it needs to run properly, with a .sh file it's just a shell script (you can open these with a text editor to see what they're actually doing), with the .deb file you can use dpkg -L pa
[19:20] <wafflejock1> SolarNRG: .deb is something like a .msi or setup.exe in the windows world (think they are .app files on OS X but not sure) whereas a .sh file is like a windows batch file just a text file with a bunch of system commands in it basically (maybe a little logic to check whats there or prompt the user for input)
[19:22] <nemo> So. I have an old ubuntu chroot running 13.10 that I'm trying to upgrade.  And I'm getting tons of 404s.  I'm guessing that is due to deleted packages on the mirrors
[19:23] <ioria> i think so
[19:23] <nemo> I want to run apt-get dist-upgrade  but unless I can fix the install it isn't letting me go forward.  Any ideas?
[19:23] <EriC^^> nemo: did you change archive.ubuntu to old-releases.ubuntu in the sources.list?
[19:23] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades
[19:23] <nemo> EriC^^: ah. hm. wasn't aware of that. 'k
[19:23] <EriC^^> nemo: you mean upgrade to 14.04? or upgrade 13.10?
[19:24] <nemo> EriC^^: upgrade 13.10 to 14.04
[19:24] <nemo> EriC^^: since nothing seems to be working anymore
[19:24] <ioria> nemo, i think you want a functional ubuntu version... or what ?
[19:24] <SolarNRG> thanks, this transition off windows has been a long battle, but I'm in no way going back to bill gates grips
[19:24] <EriC^^> nemo: ok, run sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:25] <EriC^^> ( after changing the sources.list per instructions above )
[19:25] <Jamie_1> hey while trying to run my netbeans i am running into Cannot find java. Please use the --jdkhome switch. its odd due to i am running jre in the browser...
[19:25] <nemo> EriC^^: command not found.
[19:25] <EriC^^> you sure?
[19:25] <EriC^^> do-release-upgrade ?
[19:25] <nemo> EriC^^: yeah. pretty minimal image tho
[19:26] <nemo> what package is it part of?
[19:26] <EriC^^> ubuntu-release-upgrader-core
[19:26] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: JRE doesn't mean you have the JDK
[19:26] <nemo> 'k
[19:26] <Jamie_1> i installed all of oracle java 8
[19:26] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: JDK will have javac in it the JRE will just have java VM itself
[19:26] <nemo> EriC^^: so the repos listed is ports.ubuntu.com
[19:27] <EriC^^> where?
[19:27] <nemo> change that to the eol url?
[19:27] <cdk_> is there an ssh server that i can connect to for free as i am at school and cant do anything because they locked down the internet?
[19:27] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[19:27] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:27] <nemo> 'k
[19:27] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: you should be able to install whatever version you need then use update-alternatives like shown there to update which one is used
[19:28] <Jamie_1> i have jdk 6 installed... :/ not sure why its of next to no use...
[19:28] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: you should be able to run "javac" in the terminal and get some info
[19:28] <Jamie_1> wafflejock1: okay one sec im installing openjdk7 right now
[19:29] <cdk_> is there an free ssh server i can connect to?
[19:29] <EriC^^> cdk_: unixssh.com
[19:29] <Jamie_1> wafflejock1: how do i do the update alternatives ?
[19:29] <cdk_> kk will check it out
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> cdk_  this my irssi runs on unixssh
[19:30] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[19:30] <Jamie_1> sorry im not a java dev person... i just need it to run adb and my ides
[19:30] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Choosing_the_default_Java_to_use
[19:30] <Jamie_1> thanks wafflejock1
[19:30] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: no worries support channel is for support :)
[19:31] <Jamie_1> oh while im in here... is there some reason that when i add a online account from settings to my computer when it pops up later on and ask for the password it wont accept it?
[19:32] <ioria> keyring ... you mean ?
[19:32] <Jamie_1> yes
[19:32] <nemo> EriC^^: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/dists/saucy/main/source/Sources
[19:32] <cdk_> MonkeyDust i am looking for a way i can getpast my schools blockedc searches
[19:32] <nemo> 404?
[19:33] <Jamie_1> do i need to sign out or anything for it to take effect wafflejock1?
[19:33] <EriC^^> nemo: i think there should be a ubuntu after ubuntu.com
[19:33] <EriC^^> ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/...
[19:33] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: shouldn't need to, just try which javac, or just javac and see if  it finds it
[19:34] <EriC^^> nemo: did you follow the website instructions?
[19:35] <nemo> EriC^^: well, I was trying to adapt since working w/o bluetooth kbd is kind of a pain
[19:35] <Jamie_1> ... not sure how to do that... but javac -version outputs 1.8.0_60
[19:36] <nemo> just changed ports. to old-releases. in synaptic. but, 'k, will check whole url
[19:36] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: my "which javac" shows /usr/bin/javac, if you ls -al /usr/bin/javac, you'll see where the symbolic link is pointing to that has the executable or ls -al /etc/alternatives/javac
[19:36] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: sounds like it's fine though
[19:36] <Jamie_1> its still not letting me run netbeans...
[19:37] <EriC^^> nemo: ill pm you the sources from the site
[19:37] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: you may need to restart netbeans if you had it running or configure the JDK location in Netbeans but javac itself is available now
[19:37] <Jamie_1> its telling me it still cannot find java... and it wont start netbeans without it...
[19:37] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: I've typically just used Eclipse for Java dev and lately just been using IntelliJ so dunno about netbeans in particular
[19:37] <nemo> EriC^^: adding ubuntu helped
[19:37] <nemo> eas afk editing it
[19:37] <Jamie_1> i need a good html5 and js ide
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> !ide
[19:38] <nemo> *was. stupid soft kbd
[19:38] <Jamie_1> one that allows inporting of js libraries and netbeans has addons to allow that
[19:38] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: I use PHPStorm for those... used to use SublimeText but needed something with interactive debugging for PHP
[19:38] <Jamie_1> wafflejock1: i need one that i can import a js library in
[19:38] <Jamie_1> wafflejock1: also needed the ability to use the local host feature
[19:39] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: Atom is another nice option for just HTML/JS stuff, IntelliJ is like eclipse but has more HTML/JS support than regular Eclipse, Aptana is a version of eclipse with HTML/JS stuff but haven't tried it
[19:39] <Jamie_1> wafflejock1: oddly enought the question from me is does it allow js library importing for syntax and html5 syntaxing
[19:40] <skrydal> Hi guys, I have problems with enabling my custom daemon to be started on system startup, I created proper script in /etc/init.d then ran update-rc.d <daemon-name> defaults and I can see proper links being stored in /etc/rc*.d but still when i restart pc i don't see this service being started
[19:40] <Jamie_1> wafflejock1: i am using webGL and html5 canvas so i need to be able to import js libraries or my life will become a living hell
[19:40] <skrydal> any idea what might be wrong?
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> Jamie_1  or this http://www.w3.org/Amaya/screenshots/Overview.html
[19:41] <skrydal> if this is possible I'd like to use sysvinit instead of going with upstart
[19:41] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: well any IDE will be separate from the part that runs the server on localhost but typically all have some tools for starting up or stopping some scripts that run a server, regarding the syntax stuff best thing I've used is the IntelliJ stuff but have heard good things about VS Code too haven't tried it though
[19:41] <skrydal> service <service-name> start/stop/restart/status work just fine
[19:41] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: would just download a bunch of them and give them a go yourself, NetBeans isn't particularly great in my personal experience though
[19:41] <Jamie_1> MonkeyDust: taking a look
[19:42] <frikkie> Hi, does anyone know how to stop wlan0 from starting up during boot
[19:42] <Jamie_1> wafflejock1: only reason i was using it was due to the ability to import js libraries then added the libraries functions to the tabcompletion
[19:42] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: yeah intelliJ does that I haven't explored it a lot though it just automatically picks up everything
[19:43] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: you can tell it to exclude some parts of the project for scannning too but not a free option
[19:43] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: gives me completion on JS and CSS though which is handy
[19:43] <Jamie_1> wafflejock1: okay then i will definitly try it... im using it for 3d rendering with webGL... and the amount of syntax i need its immense
[19:44] <OneM_Industries> Hey guys?
[19:44] <Jamie_1> need to be able to do all the calls for the vertex3 and matrix calls.... all in a library to make it not as much of a bitch... so without it.... yea
[19:44] <OneM_Industries> The default addons for firefox really slow firefox down, just so you guys know.
[19:45] <wafflejock1> Jamie_1: yeah I hear ya, dealing with any complex library without some intellisense is pretty painful, can't make any educated guesses have to look it all up
[19:45] <Jamie_1> that is conanical not from us over with mozilla OneM_Industries
[19:46] <skrydal> do you guys know how could I get some debugging info from sysvinit (what kind of services it tries to start, what happens, etc)
[19:46] <Jamie_1> wafflejock1: yea... tried to do it with educated guesses once... created one of the worlds largest recursive loops (the kind that crash computers) from linking the wrong things together for just messing up i think it was 3 calls in a 450 line script
[19:47] <wafflejock1> skrydal: you mean like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting ?
[19:48] <skrydal> wafflejock1: interesting, let me take a look
[19:48] <AvatarA> Jamie_1, I bet it wasn't worse than a fork bomb :p
[19:48] <skrydal> wafflejock1: thanks
[19:48] <Jamie_1> AvatarA: to say the least...
[19:48] <wafflejock1> np
[19:48] <Jamie_1> when it brought down the computer also corupted data from improper shut down....
[19:49] <wafflejock1> dang that's quite the meltdown
[19:49] <Jamie_1> that would be the only problem with the ability to access low level with just js
[19:50] <Jamie_1> with webGL you have the OpenGL just its setup to be access from html setup and javascript
[19:51] <Jamie_1> so its messing with computing and sending and receving stuff from the gpu... so you mess up with a recursive loop you can cause some really big processing issues that are enough to crash a compute
[19:51] <Jamie_1> i learned my lession... always set to use strict... so it cant do that..
[19:52] <Jamie_1> starting intellij
[19:57] <Aleksa> Anyone to help me with xkb settings?
[19:57] <Aleksa> It's about inverted breve. How do I produce it?
[19:58] <Aleksa> I change /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/*
[20:04] <ycyclist> Say, I am using 15.04, and on a process I see, I am getting pmap telling me it has 8000K of memory usage, but memstat is telling me 340K plus 24K.
[20:06] <KaZeR> hi there
[20:06] <KaZeR> i need some help with a preseed profile. I can't get it to not ask for "Write the changes to disks?"
[20:07] <KaZeR> i've read stuffs like http://serverfault.com/questions/415174/debian-6-preseeding-keeps-asking-write-the-changes-to-disks-and-configure-lvm and even http://people.canonical.com/~chiluk/preseed.cfg but i'm still stuck
[20:10] <Guest44424> stupid question on this ubuntu machine i set ulimit -c unlimited , and ulimit -a shows that core dumps have unlimited space/are enabled. I see a core file in my same directory but it looks binary what is used to view it? I see that apport is being used and in it's /var/log/apport.log it shows that it is writting it out to this core file and saying it is not a package , ignore what is all this?
[20:11] <Guest44424> for my test crash program
[20:11] <chiluk> KaZeR do you have "partman-base	partman/confirm	boolean	false"  in your preseed?
[20:12] <Guest44424> I thought i was supposed to see core.pid but i just see one core file which i think everything is getting written to?
[20:12] <chiluk> Also KaZeR I'm curious who's linking to my old preseed.cfg?
[20:12] <jackhum> i am trying to install wine in my ubuntu ,
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> jackhum  what goes wrong
[20:13] <jackhum> i am getting unable to fetch some archives , E: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-linux/libuuid1_2.20.1-5.1ubuntu20.6_i386.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
[20:13] <jackhum> as i can see that apparently there is no package at that address ,
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> jackhum  what'qs the ouput of   cat /etc/issue
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> output*
[20:13] <chiluk> KaZeR,  you might want to try pastebining your preseed if you want people to check it out for you.
[20:14] <KaZeR> chiluk: oh wow the man is here
[20:14] <KaZeR> sure hang on
[20:14] <chiluk> I am definitely not "the man" when it comes to preseed..
[20:14] <jackhum> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[20:14] <chiluk> but I'll take a look.
[20:15] <KaZeR> chiluk: https://bpaste.net/show/397b28945669
[20:15] <jackhum> MonkeyDust: ?
[20:15] <atrika> hello, i've manually built and "make install" gtk 3.16 because I needed some new feature, but now my lightdm greeter isnt able to launch because ubuntu_menu_item_factory_get_type is not in libido3-0.1.so.0. help!
[20:16] <KaZeR> the ubiquity part used to be enough, but we have some new hardware where it fails. asks for this confirmation.
[20:18] <Bashing-om> !info libuuid1 trusty | jackhum
[20:18] <jackhum> Bashing-om: how to solve my problem?
[20:19] <chiluk> KaZeR, unfortunately I haven't touched a preseed since I posted that preseed a few years ago.
[20:19] <KaZeR> ha. and there's a LOT of partman entries in your preseed file :)
[20:19] <Bashing-om> jackhum: Your install is an older version attempt .. have you updated/upgraded the system ?
[20:20] <jackhum> Bashing-om: no , i dont want to upgrade my dist.
[20:20] <chiluk> KaZeR, what I would do is run the installationto passed the dialog box..
[20:20] <chiluk> then in a different terminal run debconf-get-selections --installer > file
[20:21] <chiluk> and debconf-get-selections >> file
[20:21] <chiluk> KaZer, then grep for confirm in the file to discover which confirm dialog you ar missing.
[20:21] <Pici> jackhum: doing an apt-get upgrade/apt-get dist-upgrade does not mean moving to a new release of Ubuntu.
[20:21] <KaZeR> thanks chiluk it helps. trying it now
[20:22] <Bashing-om> jackhum: 'sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' Will only update installed packages, has nothing to effect a version upgrade .
[20:22] <chiluk> KaZeR, good luck... d-i preseeds can be a royal pain...
[20:23] <chiluk> I hope that helps.
[20:24] <KaZeR> eh. i have debconf-set-selections but not the get version
[20:26] <RonWhoCares> Is there a simple way to install PHP 7 in the Ubuntu 15.04
[20:28] <chiluk> KaZeR, You might have to apt-get install the debconf-utils or do so manually.. it's been a long time since I've messed with that.
[20:28] <KaZeR> yep thanks. the install is already finished. i'm looking into it
[20:28] <chiluk> KaZeR, you might also be able to just install it after reboot
[20:29] <chiluk> and just check the --installer output.
[20:29] <KaZeR> actually it's available after reboot
[20:29] <chiluk> I haven't touched it in so long .
[20:29] <KaZeR> np, it already helps
[20:30] <chiluk> KaZeR, fyi you're not going to want to just modify your existing preseed in small increments rather than just pushing the whole get-selections into a new preseed
[20:31] <KaZeR> oh yeah for sure
[20:31] <KaZeR> 224 partman entries in the output :)
[20:32] <w00tner> hello guys how can i update my libglib from  2.0.0 to 2.40.0 ?? im trying to fix a know mysql bug : http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=74147
[20:32] <Fjorgynn> no
[20:33] <Bashing-om> !info php vivid
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> it's php5
[20:34] <genii> !info libglib2.0-0
[20:34] <elisa87> I am doing experiments. I want to see what happens if my slave nodes in yarn fail say at 25% or 75% of the job? so I need to know how to kill the job
[20:34] <elisa87> how can I listen to a job and know it is say 70% complete and then I kill it?
[20:34] <genii> w00tner: Looks like Vivid's version is already at 2.44.1
[20:34] <Bashing-om> MonkeyDust: :) was hoping to see a return of 7, as 5 is what is in trusty .
[20:35] <w00tner> im using 14.04 LTS
[20:35] <genii> !info libglib2.0-0 trusty
[20:35]  * genii makes more coffee
[20:35] <w00tner> hwo can i know the libglib version ?
[20:36] <w00tner> i currently have installed
[20:36] <elisa87> how can we kill a script after say 5 seconds?
[20:37] <genii> w00tner: apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  with sleep and pgrep `script name`
[20:37] <m3n3chm0> anybody uses wicd ¿?
[20:37] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: can i write it inside the script that I am executing so it would kill itself after a specific time?
[20:37] <w00tner> Installed: 2.40.2-0ubuntu1, Candidate: 2.40.2-0ubuntu1
[20:38] <goddard> can some one help with some headphone mic issues?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  a bash script?
[20:40] <w00tner> It's been reported that downgrading libglib2.0.0 from 2.42.01 to 2.40.0 solves this problem.
[20:41] <w00tner> do i need to downgrade from 2.40.2 to 2.40.0 ?
[20:41] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32704196/how-to-make-a-script-kill-itself-after-running-after-a-specific-time  here it is
[20:41] <genii> w00tner: No
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  if you don't get an answer here, ask in #bash
[20:48] <davide> ciao
[20:48] <reisio> elisa87: time is easy
[20:48] <reisio> percentage requires being able to quantify done-ness
[20:49] <Ziggurat> Can i boot into recovery mode from a live usb ubuntu 15.10? I cant find the option in grub
[20:49] <EriC^^> Ziggurat: advanced > recovery
[20:50] <roundduckman> I need help with Cinnamon
[20:50] <auronandace> !ubuntu+1 | Ziggurat
[20:51] <RonWhoCares> How can I install PHP 7 in my Ubuntu 15.04 ?
[20:51] <auronandace> wow, w already. i remember warty warthog
[20:51] <jackhum> trying to install wine, and still getting error E: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-linux/libuuid1_2.20.1-5.1ubuntu20.6_i386.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
[20:52] <jackhum> help help help
[20:52] <roundduckman> My Cinnamon desktop is blank after installing extensions, and then restarting Cinnamon
[20:52] <jackhum> MonkeyDust: help ,
[20:53] <jackhum> MonkeyDust: i also did sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:53] <Pici> jackhum: did you do a sudo apt update?
[20:54] <jackhum> Pici : yes
[20:54] <Ziggurat> EriC^^ My options are "Try Ubuntu without installing" "Install Ubuntu" "OEM Install" "Check disc for defects"
[20:55] <Bashing-om> jackhum: Installing wine from our software repository ?
[20:55] <jackhum> Pici: i am getting lots of PPA not found , and error though
[20:55] <Ziggurat> ubottu oh sorry, ill try to join that chat
[20:56] <Pici> jackhum: sounds like your system is quite out of date then.
[20:57] <jackhum> Bashing-om: i am running sudo apt-get install wine
[21:00] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I am attempting to scan a document using xsane in Ubuntu 14.04, but it shows no devices even though I have a cannon MG3500 ready and waiting to scan. Any ideas?
[21:01] <rooks> OneM_Industries: look for instructions to unblosc your driver manually in /etc/saned
[21:02] <rooks> OneM_Industries: and then run sane from root, or dibble with rights to parpors
[21:03] <Bashing-om> jackhum: " PPA not found , and error though " let's look at these sources ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list | pasteninit ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' . You may have to install the "pastebinit" tool .
[21:04] <keyvin> Is canonical still going full steam ahead on mir?
[21:04] <ratrace> at flank speed.
[21:06] <alu> my nvidia drivers break every ubuntu upgrade
[21:06] <keyvin> alu, did you install them from the repos?
[21:06] <alu> its really annoying having to reinstall them
[21:06] <alu> no i dont think so
[21:06] <alu> i got the cuda ones and stuff from nvidia
[21:06] <keyvin> alu: you have to install from the repos or a PPA for them to reconfigure after updates
[21:07] <alu> ppa?
[21:07] <alu> shit
[21:07] <alu> .g nvidia ppa drivers
[21:07] <valeech> can someone help me with an ldap client getting nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ldap://ldapserver: Invalid credentials errors?
[21:08] <Bashing-om> alu: That is why ^ . From Nvidia is not ubuntu . each time the kernel is updated, the nvidia driver built against the old kernel is broke in the new .
[21:10] <jhutchins> Bashing-om: Isn't there some kind of build wrapper like dkms that will do that for you?
[21:11] <elisa87> how can I look for a file in the entire directory?
[21:11] <tgm4883> jhutchins: only if nvidia configures it (or the user does)
[21:11] <EriC^^> elisa87: find iname "file"
[21:11] <paolos1956> ciao
[21:11] <EriC^^> it's recursive so it searches in subdirs too
[21:12] <rpm_45> whaddup? does anybody use a laptop/desktop with a touchscreen? i would like to map some gestures to unity things in 14.04 - be able to swipe across workspaces on the touchscreen would be hot.
[21:12] <Bashing-om> jhutchins: Best I recall, there is a means to enable 'dkms' but one has to be aware of it .
[21:13] <rpm_45> i have not had much luck with the typical tools - programs such as "touchegg" and "easystroke" don't recognize my multitouch gestures on the mousepad nor the touchscreeen.
[21:16] <elisa87> according to this how can I know where yarn-daemon.sh is saved? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12517320/
[21:17] <paolos1956> hello all s
[21:18] <paolos1956> hi
[21:18] <EriC^^> elisa87: it looks like it expects it to be in the current directory
[21:20] <netameta_> How can i add a certain folder to path ubuntu 14.04
[21:20] <paolos1956> xdcc send
[21:20] <EriC^^> netameta_: system-wide or for a user?
[21:20] <netameta_> so say i have home/appname/bin/filename
[21:20] <netameta_> instead of cding there i could do filename anywhere
[21:20] <netameta_> and it will run
[21:20] <k1l> netameta_: stuff in ~/bin will be added on each login
[21:21] <netameta_> k1l:  ?
[21:21] <netameta_> i am not tlaking about /local/bin
[21:21] <netameta_> EriC^^: yes system wide
[21:21] <k1l> netameta_: if you want to easily add own programs into a suers PATH, just put it into the users Home/user/bin
[21:21] <EriC^^> netameta_: system-wide means for all users not just yours
[21:22] <k1l> !path
[21:22] <netameta_> k1l: cannot add it /move the file from its current directory. and EriC^^Yea for all users
[21:23] <EriC^^> netameta_: ok, put it in a dir everybody can access, and add that dir to /etc/environment in PATH=
[21:23] <k1l> usually non-package-manager-stuff goes into /opt
[21:34] <jackhum> while trying to install photoshop cs6 on my ubuntu , can i run existing photoshop installed on windows ? i mean without installing it
[21:35] <daftykins> jackhum: windows progs often rely on registry entries, so your mileage may vary.
[21:36] <daftykins> i wouldn't recommend you try running any programs from your Windows drive at all.
[21:36] <nemo> yeah, that really doesn't seem like a good idea
[21:36] <nemo> jackhum: any reason you can't reinstall it linux side?
[21:37] <jackhum> yeah , low space
[21:37] <noahmg123> I am having trouble pairing my Bluetooth headset. I can connect to the headset service but no sound outputs to the headset
[21:37] <nemo> virtualbox in theory allows booting existing physical partitions.  in practice the incredibly specific hardware requirements and software install theft detection of windows has made that fail for me every time even w/ dmi cloning
[21:37] <jackhum> i dont want to spend another 1 gb
[21:37] <SADQUA> Hello folks
[21:37] <SADQUA> I hope you are all wel
[21:37] <nemo> jackhum: does your windows partition have more space perhaps?
[21:38] <nemo> strange to be a graphics developer and be that short on space
[21:38] <daftykins> :)
[21:38] <SADQUA> I am having server issues :) I have been trying to fix it since 8am this morning, it is now 10pm BST / 4pm CDT :)
[21:38] <nemo> jackhum: also, gimp ftw
[21:38] <nemo> :p
[21:38] <daftykins> SADQUA: and the problem is?
[21:38] <SADQUA> Would anyone fancy taking a look over my bootloader paste report and telling me if they can see anything I will have missed? :)
[21:38] <daftykins> just link it
[21:38] <SADQUA> Some time over the weekend the log file for apache grew too 1.8 TB
[21:39] <daftykins> lol
[21:39] <nemo> heh
[21:39] <SADQUA> my junior tech deleted it and restarted the machine :)
[21:39] <SADQUA> and now it refuses to boot!! :)
[21:39] <nemo> SADQUA: gonna guess someone was probing your machine, or a script went wild
[21:39] <jackhum> nemo: not a graphic designer + hobbyist programer and developer + jobless + no money + poor enuf + cant buy mac
[21:39] <SADQUA> I think it may have been a thumbnail generator gone crazy
[21:39] <elisa87> hey http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32704945/how-to-extract-something-out-of-a-file-after-greping
[21:39] <jackhum> :)
[21:39] <SADQUA> sadly my lead developer is crazy sick and cannot help me
[21:39] <nemo> jackhum: m'k - well, that's one of the reasons I never learned CS6 - never could afford it
[21:40] <daftykins> SADQUA: so are you gonna link the issue or make us guess? :)
[21:40] <nemo> jackhum: but, eh, there are surprisingly powerful tools in GIMP that people are rather unaware of.  liquidrescale and resynthesizer for example now exist in photoshop but were in GIMP first
[21:40] <elisa87> how can I do this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32704945/how-to-extract-something-out-of-a-file-after-greping
[21:40] <SADQUA> sorry mate :) I was just thinking about CS6 :D
[21:40] <SADQUA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12516474/
[21:40] <nemo> jackhum: in ubuntu those are in a separate package btw
[21:40] <SADQUA> I love GIMP now that adobe have gone all evil
[21:41] <jackhum> nemo: will i get functional photoshop or not ?
[21:41] <daftykins> SADQUA: why is this a mac o0
[21:41] <daftykins> funny choice of Linux server :)
[21:41] <SADQUA> hmm, that is a good question!
[21:41] <jackhum> i want photoshop becaise that way i can master only one tool, instead of learning both
[21:41] <SADQUA> I guess that is because I had an external drive plugged in?
[21:42] <daftykins> jackhum: go talk to the folk in #winehq
[21:42] <nemo> jackhum: m'k. whatev.  your call.  in that case, do you have a gigabyte to spare to install it twice on your windows partition?
[21:42] <pocketprotector> Is there a way to config syslog for all of the preseed install?
[21:42] <nemo> eh. or what daftykins said
[21:42] <pocketprotector> to send syslog to a remote server, tat is
[21:42] <noahmg123> I am having trouble pairing my Bluetooth headset. I can connect to the headset service but no sound outputs to the headset.
[21:42] <nemo> noahmg123: run pavucontrol and doublecheck your outputs
[21:42] <daftykins> SADQUA: so the server is a mac or not?
[21:42] <jackhum> i would really love if i can run already existing one , that is available on my programfile
[21:43] <SADQUA> the server is IBM :)
[21:43] <nemo> noahmg123: #pulseaudio on this server has been very helpful to me in the past w/ stuff like this
[21:43] <SADQUA> ServeRAID hardware raid
[21:43] <nemo> noahmg123: but check pavucontrol first
[21:43] <daftykins> SADQUA: so unplug any other useless stuff and let us know what actually happens at boot time
[21:43] <SADQUA> So when I boot it
[21:43] <SADQUA> the grub options come up
[21:43] <SADQUA> and if I pick the non-recovery mode one (Ubuntu 12.04 etc…) it just hangs
[21:43] <SADQUA> black screen with a underscore
[21:44] <UserUS> grub is broken
[21:44] <noahmg123> nemo: what do I check for in pavucontrol?
[21:44] <SADQUA> if I pick the recover mode option it says “Loading Initial ramdisk; error no suitable mode found.; Booting however”. and then it hangs with just an unblinking underscore
[21:45] <pocketprotector> anybody know about the syslog part?
[21:45] <daftykins> SADQUA: boot a live session and back it up first
[21:46] <UserUS> noahmg123: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTmZYzaxR_k
[21:46] <nemo> noahmg123: output devices tab. also, check the output for specific app you are testing in the playback tab
[21:46] <SADQUA> Please excuse my ignorance, when you say “live session” do you mean boot it from an Ubuntu live CD?
[21:46] <daftykins> SADQUA: yes
[21:46] <SADQUA> Okay, I have a backup of my main database file
[21:47] <UserUS> SADQUA*: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTmZYzaxR_k
[21:47] <daftykins> SADQUA: btw this definitely is a mac, or is a system using the SSD from a mac - no sign of any RAID.
[21:47] <SADQUA> Yeah, I am really confused about that
[21:47] <SADQUA> I will rerun the test and come back to you folks
[21:47] <SADQUA> sorry for wasting your time! I am very confused about this at the moment (too little sleep, too much caffiene! :))
[21:48] <daftykins> might be using the wrong machine ;)
[21:49] <SADQUA> Yeah, that is confusing me a lot
[21:50] <daftykins> i mean it's fine if it's ubuntu on a mac, but you have to be up front with us
[21:51] <noahmg123> I am having troubles with my bluetooth headset. #pulseaudio is inactive right now. I can connect to the headset service but no sound is output.
[21:51] <SADQUA> Basically, I got the boot loader fix ISO, burnt it to CD
[21:51] <SADQUA> stuck it in my IBM 3650 M4
[21:51] <SADQUA> booted from that and ran the report
[21:51] <daftykins> without even knowing what was up? :D
[21:51] <SADQUA> Let me re-do that :)
[21:52] <SADQUA> Well, I am guessing it is a GRUB issue of some kind
[21:52] <daftykins> well you get the menu
[21:52] <SADQUA> Yep :)
[21:52] <daftykins> boot a live session of a full desktop ubuntu, image up the disk / backup however
[21:52] <daftykins> then consider fsck-ing the file systems
[21:52] <SADQUA> I ran a full raid consistancy check and I ran testdisk
[21:53] <SADQUA> both told me no issues :)
[21:53] <bekks> SADQUA: But you didnt run a full fsck.
[21:53] <daftykins> there's no RAID in the boot log, SADQUA
[21:53] <SADQUA> This is true bekks
[21:53] <SADQUA> Yeah, I must have made a mistake some how, but I really have no idea how!
[21:53] <daftykins> there is a mac with 1 x 128GB SSD and nothing else :)
[21:53] <bekks> SADQUA: So without running fsck, you cant tell wether the filesystem is corrupted or not.
[21:53] <SADQUA> I use a Mac but no mac servers so yeah, I am confused!
[21:54] <daftykins> is it possible you rebooted your own laptop and somehow ran a boot-repair on that 0o
[21:54] <SADQUA> my laptop has 256gb SSD and no CD drive hehe
[21:54] <SADQUA> but yeah, let me go investigate and I will come back to you :)
[21:54] <SADQUA> Sorry folks :)
[21:59] <SADQUA> Ahhhhhh
[21:59] <SADQUA> Omgoodness! I wrote the paste number down wrong :)
[21:59] <SADQUA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12516974/
[21:59] <SADQUA> Sorry about that!
[21:59] <SADQUA> For a moment there I thought I was going crazy
[22:01] <daftykins> hahaha
[22:01] <daftykins> SADQUA: alright same idea applies, i say boot a desktop live session from flash drive ideally - preferably the same version (12.04)
[22:01] <SADQUA> Okay cool, I can do that
[22:02] <Guest3904> Drone`: How can 12.10 be upgraded?
[22:03] <tgm4883> !EOL | Guest3904
[22:03] <daftykins> SADQUA: so you said you get the GRUB menu at least, have you tried booting an older kernel? are you familiar with how to do that?
[22:03] <SADQUA> Yep :)
[22:04] <SADQUA> A few months ago I cleared out the old kernals because my /boot drive was full, but I still have the latest 5 or 6 Kernals, I tried them but no luck
[22:04] <SADQUA> sorry, * Kernel :)
[22:04] <daftykins> so identical issue, flashing cursor for every one huh?
[22:04] <UserUS> you ever use rEFInd?
[22:05] <daftykins> UserUS: who is that aimed at?
[22:05] <SADQUA> not even flashing, just static!!
[22:05] <SADQUA> Flashing would be lovelhy
[22:05] <SADQUA> * lovely! :D
[22:05] <RonWhoCares> how do I uninstall a program
[22:05] <rww> depends on how you installed it
[22:05] <daftykins> SADQUA: ok try removing 'quiet splash' from a boot entry too and watch the boot messages go, see where it stops maybe
[22:05] <EriC^^> try nomodeset too
[22:06] <daftykins> EriC^^: i think it's a server so should have no X, but hmm
[22:06] <daftykins> SADQUA: does it have X?
[22:06] <SADQUA> okay, when I press “e” in the grub loader
[22:06] <RonWhoCares> I've just finished installing PHP 7.  http://pastie.org/10436433  I want to uninstall php5.6.4   PHP 5.6.4 was installed when I updated to Ubuntu 15.04
[22:06] <daftykins> EriC^^: oh nomodeset is on all the GRUB entries anyway o0
[22:06] <SADQUA> it seems to just be wrong! :)
[22:06] <SADQUA> I will load it up in that and then copy what it is saying for your viewing :)
[22:06] <Rurik> how do I set Atom as my default text editor for all text files?
[22:06] <EriC^^> hmm, maybe without nomodeset?
[22:06] <daftykins> SADQUA: what's wrong?
[22:06] <daftykins> oh ok
[22:07] <SADQUA> basically when I hit “e” and I get the editor, I don’t see what I would expect to see (not that I have ever looked in there before!)
[22:07] <daftykins> ah no i was reading the recovery kernel entries like an idiot
[22:07] <SADQUA> please stand by :) I will come back to you :)
[22:07] <daftykins> <-- -10 points
[22:08] <SADQUA> haha, I am already -1000 points :)
[22:16] <vlad__> something weird happened when I did an upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04
[22:16] <tgm4883> vlad__: as it should, you missed 14.10
[22:17] <vlad__> tgm4883, I went through 14.10
[22:17] <vlad__> ubuntu-system-settings was installed, which is for phones/touch
[22:17] <Trav15> Running 14.04. Why is there no format option when I right click a drive?
[22:18] <vlad__> instead of gnome-control-center
[22:18] <daftykins> vlad__: everything working otherwise? "lsb_release -a" says what?
[22:19] <tgm4883> vlad__: without any upgrade logs, I don't know what to say
[22:19] <vlad__> and apt-get says i have held broken packages
[22:19] <Guest3904> Drone`: very well
[22:19] <goddard> how can i get netbeans working ?
[22:19] <daftykins> Guest3904: you appear to be trying to talk to a channel bot.
[22:19] <goddard> it keeps failing to start
[22:19] <daftykins> goddard: that'd be a better question in a #java channel i would think
[22:19] <vlad__> daftykins, lsb_release -a confirms 15.04
[22:19] <Guest3904> Drone`: email me if you need anything
[22:19] <daftykins> vlad__: so if you run a dist-upgrade now to clear the package issues?
[22:20] <daftykins> Guest3904: DRONE is a BOT
[22:20] <vlad__> daftykins, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[22:20] <ratrace> daftykins: so is Guest... it seems :)
[22:20] <vlad__> "parole" has been held back
[22:20] <daftykins> :D
[22:20] <tgm4883> Isn't this a no bot channel?
[22:20] <daftykins> no users are allowed to run bots, yeah
[22:21] <daftykins> !info parole
[22:21] <daftykins> vlad__: do as you will with it then, i guess
[22:22] <vlad__> daftykins, ok, I removed it
[22:22] <daftykins> about your main query, no idea - just install what you want? :)
[22:23] <vlad__> so when I try to install gnome-control-center, I get more held broken packages
[22:23] <vlad__> which I followed all the way to indicator-bluetooth
[22:24] <vlad__> which, if I ask apt-get to remove it, claims that indicator-bluetooth indicator-network ubuntu-system-settings  ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts unity8 will all be removed as well
[22:25] <UserUS> try a reinstall rather than removing?
[22:25] <daftykins> this would be a lot more useful shown in full in pastebins rather than piecemeal, vlad__
[22:25] <vlad__> UserUS, reinstall what?
[22:26] <UserUS> vlad___arent you trying to fix a bluetooth issue?
[22:27] <daftykins> UserUS: don't bother replying if you don't even know the query.
[22:28] <UserUS> Yeah, sorry. Wrong person.
[22:29] <UserUS> Still, a reinstall might fix broken packages, wouldn't it?
[22:29] <vlad__> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/WuWwxW7T
[22:29] <daftykins> if you're unsure, don't assist ;)
[22:30] <daftykins> vlad__: did you have any PPAs installed and enabled whilst you upgraded?
[22:30] <vlad__> yeah, lots
[22:31] <UserUS> vlad____: sudo apt-get -f install
[22:31] <Aleksa> After messing around with xkb, I messed something up and I cannot use "alt gr + numbers + letter" to create letter with accent above it (like I used to). How do I reset it?
[22:31] <daftykins> vlad__: right so you've trashed your install by upgrading whilst they're still on, nasty.
[22:32] <vlad__> I thought do-release-upgrade was supposed to just deactivate ppas it couldn't upgrade?
[22:32] <daftykins> the upgrade advice is always to remove everything yourself so you don't brick it
[22:32] <Aleksa> removing *.xkm from /var/lib/xkb, doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xkb-data and sudo restart lightdm doesn't work
[22:32] <Aleksa> please!
[22:32] <Aleksa> I just don't know which package to reinstall
[22:33] <vlad__> should I just manually follow the broken packages and remove stuff?
[22:33] <daftykins> up to you, i'd check where it's getting gnome-control-center from first
[22:33] <daftykins> check which PPAs are active, etc
[22:34] <alu> okay after getting the ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[22:34] <daftykins> ?
[22:35] <alu> and installing nvidia-355
[22:35] <daftykins> yeah...?
[22:35] <alu> what next, restart?
[22:35] <daftykins> if you want to use that driver, yep
[22:35] <alu> no blacklisting?
[22:35] <UserUS> vlad___: sudo apt-get autoclean, sudo apt-get clean, sudo apt-get autoremove, sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq package name
[22:35] <daftykins> alu: what is your hardware setup?
[22:35] <daftykins> you kinda came in at the middle :)
[22:35] <alu> x201 external gpu [via pci express] to nvidia gtx 960
[22:36] <daftykins> "x201" ?
[22:36] <alu> thinkpad
[22:36] <daftykins> ah ok. what's the internal hardware?
[22:36] <alu> i7 and 8gb ram
[22:36] <daftykins> no graphics hardware.
[22:36] <daftykins> intel on-die only?
[22:36] <alu> yeah i think so
[22:37] <daftykins> confirm with "lspci"
[22:37] <Aleksa> Come on people! Please give me the answer! How do I reset xkb settings?
[22:37] <daftykins> !patience | Aleksa
[22:37] <alu> host bridge: intel corporation core procesor DRAM controller
[22:37] <alu> intel corp integrrated graphics controller
[22:37] <daftykins> alu: just throw the whole lot in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:38] <alu> http://sprunge.us/cjSM
[22:38] <alu> its not connected to the card atm
[22:39] <daftykins> noticed that ;)
[22:39] <daftykins> ok so broadwell only
[22:39] <daftykins> if you want just the nvidia card to be in use, you'll have to blacklist intel or just hardcode a base xorg.conf
[22:40] <alu> not nouvaeu?
[22:40] <alu> nouvaeu is blacklisted i think
[22:40] <daftykins> shouldn't be relevant if you put drivers on properly
[22:40] <daftykins> as nvidia will be picked first
[22:41] <alu> okay so insert blacklist intel
[22:41] <alu> in what file do I blacklist that btw
[22:41] <vlad__> daftykins, isn't there a gui for manging ppas?
[22:41] <daftykins> sure.
[22:41] <alu> is it /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf ?
[22:42] <daftykins> alu: notice that file has nouveau in the name, so i doubt it
[22:42] <daftykins> :D
[22:42] <alu> hmm
[22:42] <alu> blacklist.conf
[22:43] <alu> okay i appended blacklist intel at the bottom of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[22:43] <alu> gunna restart that pc now
[22:43] <alu> with the card connected to it as well
[22:44] <SADQUA> Hello folks :)
[22:44] <SADQUA> So I booted from a live USB (Ubuntu 12)
[22:44] <vlad__> ok, all my ppas are "disabled" according to software & updates (except for Canonical Partners)
[22:45] <SADQUA> I ran fdisk -l to get my drives
[22:45] <daftykins> SADQUA: please type complete sentences so as to reduce spam
[22:46] <alu> sigh, its booting but the screen is black
[22:46] <daftykins> a screen connected to the card or the onboard? :)
[22:46] <alu> card
[22:46] <daftykins> well, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log afterward.
[22:47] <SADQUA> haa, I am sorry, that is a bad habit of mine! :) So I am used to fsck on a Mac but not on Ubuntu as such. I ran fsck /dev/sda (that is the raid super block). It says the superblock is invalid. Bad magic number.
[22:47] <alu> i can ssh in
[22:48] <SADQUA> It does not show the partitions when I run fdisk -l, I tried running fsck on /dev/sda1, 2 and 3. It seemed to run on them
[22:48] <Aleksa> daftykins, http://askubuntu.com/questions/676838/how-to-reset-xkb-settings
[22:48] <alu> http://sprunge.us/MKPV
[22:48] <daftykins> Aleksa: i don't want that.
[22:49] <Aleksa> daftykins, ubotty told me to ask there. I did it.
[22:49] <daftykins> SADQUA: time to backup then as i mentioned, you should've done that not just fsck'd immediately
[22:49] <daftykins> Aleksa: no, i typed a trigger which told you to drop your attitude and go hunt for yourself instead of demanding help :)
[22:50] <Aleksa> no, it told me to be patient
[22:50] <alu> anything look strange in there daftykins ? maybe i can reinstall the drivers with it plugged in now
[22:51] <daftykins> haha, yeah i'm stating my version ;)
[22:51] <daftykins> Aleksa: notice how i typed !patience prior to the bot's message.
[22:51] <daftykins> alu: looking now.
[22:51] <Aleksa> if being patient means someone will finally get to remember how to reset configurations for xkb (to match the state of fresh installed system), I hope I'm patient enough
[22:52] <Aleksa> it's a one line command for terminal
[22:52] <daftykins> Aleksa: my point was, don't hassle people who help for free, in future. goodbye.
[22:52] <daftykins> alu: nvidia module failed to load, i suspect it didn't install for the running kernel - run "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" and pastebin
[22:53] <daftykins> alu: also "cat /etc/issue"
[22:53] <alu> http://sprunge.us/MTaE
[22:53] <alu> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[22:53] <daftykins> alu: i think your blacklist method is wrong as it's still loading intel etc. too
[22:54] <daftykins> !info linux-image-generic-lts-utopic
[22:55] <alu> Hmm this is my /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf http://sprunge.us/JCAM
[22:55] <daftykins> !info linux-image-generic-lts-utopic trusty
[22:55] <daftykins> no use to me, i've never blacklisted
[22:55] <alu> hmm
[22:56] <daftykins> alu: try reinstalling the nvidia package, it didn't generate a module for whatever reason
[22:56] <alu> prob cuz i installed it without having the card plugged in
[22:56] <alu> ill purge nvidia-* first
[22:56] <daftykins> no it shouldn't matter
[22:56] <alu> oh
[22:57] <alu> okay what command then
[22:57] <daftykins> but sure, a reinstall now would be fine
[22:57] <alu> >_> alright
[22:57] <alu> isnt there an apt-get reinstall command
[22:58] <daftykins> purge and reinstall will do nicely
[22:59] <alu> nvidia-355
[22:59] <alu> anything else?
[22:59] <daftykins> nope
[22:59] <daftykins> i've not had anyone have that PPA work well though btw :)
[23:00] <doulos> hi
[23:00] <doulos> i need help please...
[23:00] <alu> thats a good thing tho :o
[23:00] <doulos> i just installed ubuntu 14.04.3 on a desktop
[23:00] <daftykins> doulos: ok...
[23:00] <doulos> but i cant see the mouse pointer
[23:00] <daftykins> replug the mouse
[23:00] <doulos> everything else is showing ok
[23:00] <doulos> no...
[23:00] <doulos> doesnt work
[23:00] <daftykins> USB 2 slot?
[23:01] <doulos> sometimes it shows... (randomly)
[23:01] <doulos> any slot...
[23:01] <doulos> ts the same...
[23:01] <daftykins> get another
[23:01] <doulos> i read it was a problem with the 2 monitor option, i disabled that, but nothing :/
[23:01] <doulos> its not the mouse
[23:01] <doulos> it seems like a video card issue...
[23:01] <AvatarA> sounds like some driver/video issue
[23:01] <doulos> yep
[23:02] <daftykins> ctrl+alt+T -> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit -> pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:02] <doulos> do u think it can be fixed... i installed Lubuntu before this, and was showing the same issue...
[23:02] <doulos> ill try
[23:02] <AvatarA> I think I randomly read somewhere about this problem at some point
[23:03] <AvatarA> and it was fixed by a xorg.conf setting
[23:03] <daftykins> be a shame to have to bring that file back
[23:03] <doulos> AvatarA: thks, ill see.
[23:04] <AvatarA> well not everything can always be perfectly auto-set, just too much hardware out there
[23:05] <alu> okay it finished installing
[23:05] <daftykins> i know that :)
[23:05] <alu> After installing nvidia-355 should I restart
[23:05] <daftykins> but you would wonder what is so special about this mouse :D
[23:06] <alu> rebooting anyways, hope I can boot into X...
[23:07] <roasted> is anybody finding that notifications in 15.04 act strangely? I have a notification that came from another IRC channel (using Quassel client) and despite the fact I addressed the client's activity about 30 minute sago, the notification is just staying on my screen.
[23:07] <roasted> I've had behavior like this on 2 totally different 15.04 systems. Kind of curious if something is broken in 15.04 series or if this is a weird fluke only hitting me and my systems.
[23:08] <alu> daftykins: it boots into black screen still T_T
[23:09] <alu> /var/log/Xorg.0.log = http://sprunge.us/Reje
[23:10] <Kion> How can I reinstall all of the printing functions for Ubuntu, my printing service is incredibly slow, I am sure it has a problem
[23:10] <daftykins> alu: still no module, remove that PPA - remove the utopic HWE and update to the vivid HWE maybe
[23:12] <Kion> is there a ppa that will keep LibreOffice up to date faster than the Ubuntu repository?
[23:12] <daftykins> ask the libre office folk
[23:12] <daftykins> if there is it won't be supported here
[23:12] <doulos> daftykins: i have the info... http://paste.ubuntu.com/12517949/
[23:12] <doulos> thks...
[23:13] <alu> remove the utopic HWE and update to the vivid HWE maybe
[23:13] <alu> what are those?
[23:14] <daftykins> google
[23:15] <noahmg123> OK, I was able to setup my Bluetooth headset in a admin account but not in a non admin account.
[23:16] <daftykins> doulos: any errors shown from "dmesg | tail" ?
[23:17] <daftykins> noahmg123: is your user missing some kinda relevant group?
[23:18] <daftykins> doulos: try "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.cursor active false"
[23:19] <noahmg123_> hi. got disconnected. did anybody reply to me?
[23:23] <noahmg123_> I am having issues switching profiles on my bluetooth device
[23:26] <daftykins> noahmg123_: is your user missing some kinda relevant group?
[23:27] <noahmg123_> daftykins: that might be it. It is not a sudoer
[23:27]  * genii ponders plugdev
[23:28] <daftykins> noahmg123_: yeah i meant any other than which would grant sudo use really
[23:29] <noahmg123_> daftykins: say again?
[23:29] <daftykins> "a different one"
[23:30] <genii> noahmg123_: Try adding your non-sudoer user to the group plugdev
[23:30] <noahmg123_> genii: that looks like it might be it. do I need to log out and log back in after?
[23:30]  * genii wanders off to watch hockey
[23:31] <genii> noahmg123_: Yes, for the change to take effect
[23:31] <noahmg123_> genii: thx
[23:31] <genii> noahmg123_: Hopefully that does it :)
[23:31]  * noahmg123_ doesn't care that much for hockey
[23:34] <noahmg123_> geniI logging out now.
[23:35] <youttuoy> noahmg123_: good
[23:38] <noahmg123> ok I'm back. did not work
[23:39] <youttuoy> noahmg123_: good
[23:39] <noahmg123> did NOT work
[23:39] <youttuoy> noahmg123_: good
[23:39] <noahmg123> youttuoy: uh... why is that good
[23:40] <youttuoy> noahmg123: restart
[23:47] <server_> hi
[23:48] <server_> someone here ??
[23:48] <ablest1980> hi
[23:48] <server_> nothing ahh ?
[23:48] <ablest1980> i am here
[23:48] <server_> whats up mate
[23:48] <ablest1980> good to see life on freenode
[23:48] <ablest1980> nothing
[23:49] <server_> yeaaa aha where u from ?
[23:49] <daftykins> server_: got a support question? this channel isn't for chat
[23:49] <daftykins> #ubuntu-offtopic for that.
[23:49] <ablest1980> im there too
[23:49] <ablest1980> ty im sorry
[23:50] <server_> thanks mates im just testing hexchat in ubuntu mate
[23:50] <ablest1980> #hexchat
[23:50] <ablest1980> ^
[23:50] <ablest1980> i use that too
[23:51] <daftykins> that's nice
[23:51] <ablest1980> :)
[23:57] <noahmg123> daftykins: hi. the profile switching is still not working. I added the sudo group and am going to test it soon. Currently I am looking into erros in the logs.
[23:57] <noahmg123> roors#
[23:57] <noahmg123> errors*