Unit193Yey!  Though I haven't even done one upload yet, knome.  I might be very bad you know!00:02
bluesabreknome: getting started now, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeanDavis/MOTUApplication00:05
bluesabre^ first draft00:05
Unit193Didn't take some templates out, "like least in Ubuntu"00:07
bluesabrenot yet anyway00:09
bluesabrewhats up Unit193?00:09
bluesabreyou should skip motu and apply for core-dev, just for the heck of it ;)00:10
Unit193Hah, riiiight.  Like I'm half that good.  I don't get (nor like) the main <-> universe thing. :D00:14
Unit193Though, I'm a year after you for packageset right?  So another year for MOTU.00:15
bluesabreif they give it to me, sure :D00:15
Unit193If they don't, another year after that.00:31
bluesabreknome, ochosi, micahg: Any suggestions on what I've scribbled down here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeanDavis/MOTUApplication00:34
pleia2knome: nice, congrats? :)00:47
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knomepleia2, haha, well, yeah, i guess, more commas08:44
knomebluesabre, s/for some time/since XXX/08:44
knomebluesabre, s/xubuntu/Xubuntu/08:45
knomebluesabre, you help maintain more than those packages, things that come to mind are xubuntu-docs, shimmer-themes08:46
knomebluesabre, maybe you'd want to say something about the xubuntu release team and how you collaborate with the ubuntu release team08:49
knomebluesabre, other than that, looks very good for a first draft08:50
bluesabremicahg: got the ack to upload shimmer-themes, if you get a chance, can be sponsored from https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/sponsoring10:57
bluesabremicahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/+bug/149722810:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1497228 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] shimmer-themes 2.0.2" [Medium,Triaged]10:58
bluesabreunless you'd be interested in sponsoring this one for us, Logan ?11:02
bluesabreknome: thanks11:04
knomebluesabre, np11:41
flocculantgood day peeps11:46
knomehello flocculant 11:48
knomebluesabre, see #kubuntu-devel - TL;DR: they'll update breeze on december (to depend on another gtk theme) and then we should get shimmer-themes back11:49
flocculantbug 1497918 11:59
ubottubug 1497918 in thunar (Ubuntu) "File couldn't be moved to trash: Invalid link across device boundaries" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149791811:59
flexiondotorgbluesabre, I've just been smoke testing Ubuntu MATE.19:38
flexiondotorgI noticed the rick auto-login during install is not working anymore.19:38
flexiondotorgI've test Xubuntu 15.10 daily and found the same issue.19:39
flexiondotorgI think this patch might be related - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/148408319:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1484083 in One Hundred Papercuts "Don't work autologin after update lightdm" [High,Confirmed]19:39
flocculantflexiondotorg: mmm - lightdm is just a pita19:50
flocculanthard to tell which file should have that in - we don't get /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf19:58
flocculantbut yea - see the same thing here19:58
flocculantso manually building the file works20:03
flocculantbluesabre: xfpanel switcher for preset panels - nice \o/ 20:06
flexiondotorg /etc/lightdm.conf just contains this on Ubuntu MATE now:20:07
flocculantjust that? 20:08
flocculantright - well we don't actually get lightdm.conf at all 20:08
flexiondotorgXubuntu and Ubuntu MATE provide their own custom configs.20:08
flexiondotorgBut I can't find anything setting the auto-login20:08
flocculantright - I had to manually create /etc/lightdm.conf.d/file.conf 20:09
flocculantwith [Seat:*] and session and user details and it worked ok 20:09
flocculantmmm - hang on - didn't see the emptyish one you have :D20:10
flocculantso - that should work20:12
flocculantbut not sure why it's broken - got a month to sort it out20:12
flocculantflexiondotorg: well I've commented on bug 20:15
flexiondotorgflocculant, Thanks.20:27
flocculantfiddling with the other files we DO have makes no difference 20:28
flocculantautologin isn't something we actually test 20:28
flexiondotorgflocculant, I also test one with auto login and one without.20:28
flexiondotorgIt only stopped working recently.20:28
flexiondotorgI've added an Ubuntu MATE comment to that bug too.20:29
flocculantawesome copy/paste :D20:29
flexiondotorgYep :-)20:30
flocculantthough to be honest - we might have been better doing a new bug and critically failing on the tracker :D20:30
flexiondotorgflocculant, I plan on doing the tracker thing when the beta testing starts.20:30
flocculantif Robert Ancell doesn't pop up on it - new bug ;)20:31
flocculantok - well if you report it let me know and I'll confirm etc 20:31
flexiondotorgflocculant, OK20:32
flocculantin the meantime - added a reminder for me on release note draft20:33
ochosievening all20:34
ochosiknome: did that kubuntu chat go anywhere in the end?20:35
ochosioh gee20:35
knomeochosi, they said they will move to another gtk theme for breeze in december20:35
flocculantevening ochosi :)20:35
ochosidecember is really late20:35
flocculantevening knome too :)20:35
knomeochosi, i know, but they can likely help with the uploads if we need to do stuff before that20:35
ochosiknome: yeah, sorry, was slow to read the backlog here (had only read the one in #k-devel)20:36
ochosibluesabre: looks good! (re: MOTU application)20:38
knomeochosi, do we have uploads for shimmer-themes in sight before the release then?20:40
ochosiknome: well that's hard to anticipate20:44
knomeochosi, if that happens, just ping me and i'll take care of it20:44
ochosijust afraid we might lose track of that again with thise  long horizon20:44
knomeochosi, i'll track it, don't worry20:44
knomewe can even add it to the new blueprint if that helps you relax20:45
ochosisure :)20:45
flocculantflexiondotorg: if I spell autlogin properly in the file we do have - then it does in fact work ... 20:46
ochosiguess we can mark that workitem done r postponed then20:46
knomeochosi, both done20:47
knome(i assigned it to kubuntu-dev...)20:48
knomethey probably don't care because they have no way to track that20:48
* knome calms down20:48
flocculantcompletely or just a bit?20:57
knomejust a bit, for just a moment20:57
flexiondotorgflocculant, So can you share a link to a paste of the correct config?21:00
flocculantflexiondotorg: for us at least http://pastebin.com/KkGaaewB21:02
flexiondotorgflocculant, OK, so you manually edit the xubuntu conf.21:05
flocculantyea - mostly to check it worked 21:07
flocculantjust installed a vivid with autologin - that works, updating etc then see what happens on upgrade to wily21:08
flocculantbut that'll be tomorrow ... 21:09
flocculantnight all21:10
ochosinight floc21:31
knomenighty flocculant 21:32
ochosiknome: there you go, new nice update for greybird21:36
ochosido we really have to wait until december for ppl to get that? :>21:36
ochosi(fun with timing: i think the shimmer-themes 2.0.2 upload just got the UIFe)21:37
bluesabremicahg: thanks for the upload21:37
ochosiand evening bluesabre 21:38
bluesabrehey ochosi 21:38
ochosinow that you're here, it's time for me to go to bed (nothing personal though)21:39
bluesabrehey knome21:39
ochosistupid timezones...21:39
knomehello bluesabre 21:39
flocculantflexiondotorg: ok so vivid works, vivid updated works, vivid to wily upgrade fails - pretty much as I expected 21:39
knomenighty ochosi 21:39
flocculantyep night all - really going now :)21:39
bluesabreflocculant: g'night21:39
ochosistill working on switching to xubuntu @work btw...21:39
flocculanthi bluesabre :)21:40
bluesabrehi flocculant 21:41
bluesabrebye everyone, bbabl21:41
Unit193bluesabre: Hi.21:41
ochosibluesabre: btw, there was another greeter MR in case you wanna take a look... (i really don't get to it atm and i'd rather review jjfrv8's thunar docs)21:43
ochosibluesabre: just to be sure, i'm talking about this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~kalgasnik/lightdm-gtk-greeter/lp-1445420-greeter-show-manual-login-fixed/+merge/26383021:43
ochosinight all!21:43
bluesabrenight ochosi21:46
bluesabreyeah, need to review that tonight21:46
pleia2happy new year!23:31
pleia2o/ knome 23:31
knomeoi pleia2!23:32
knomepleia2, what's up? :)23:35
pleia2I got a lot of emails :)23:35
knomeyeah, of course23:35
knomesorry for the spam everybody23:35
pleia2knome: did you have a look at my flyer draft post?23:36
knomenope, did you ask me to?23:36
pleia2I did!23:36
knomeoh, then sorry :(23:36
knomei'll look now23:36
pleia2is ok :)23:36
knomeoh wow23:37
pleia2"this is a disaster!"23:37
knomethose images are like, awful :D23:37
knomewhere did the padding go23:37
pleia2well, do what you will23:37
pleia2inkscape > export as png23:37
knomeand you selected drawing as the area to export, not page, i guess?23:38
pleia2I didn't select anything, so yeah probably :)23:38
knomeone question:23:38
knomedo we really need to lay them out like that, or would it be enough that we created some kind of nicer looking image and linked to a pdf from that23:39
pleia2knome: pro tip: don't let pleia2 do anything with images23:39
knomebecuase that eats a lot of space and is kind of meh23:39
pleia2yeah sure23:39
knomeok, i'll craft something23:39
pleia2thank you23:39
knomenow i'll try to read the text23:39
pleia2haha, there isn't much23:40
knomewell i guess i would mention one thing23:40
knomeafter the license and blahblah text, it could be good to mention that we actually encourage people to take part in improving the official flyer instead of creating weirdo spinoffs23:41
knomeand something about translations23:41
* pleia2 nods23:41
pleia2how are we supporting translations?23:41
knomein no way, yet23:41
pleia2so what should we say about them? :)23:42
knomebut if people are interested in translating it, i guess the same procedure applies as to the startubuntu flavored one23:42
knomeand i guess we'll also help them to get the layouting right, so if they are struggling with it, better ask us than create a silly version23:42
pleia2how do you generate your pdfs from the svgs, just inkscape export? (but with padding!)23:43
knomewith the script in the repository23:43
pleia2oh right23:43
knomebut yeah, it's basically an inkscape export, then pdftk to make those files a single PDF23:44
* pleia2 nods23:44
knomeand for _print, text is converted to paths23:44
knomeso even if you sent it to a commercial printer that was ignorant and stupid, they couldn't mess up the font23:45

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