[00:02] <Unit193> Yey!  Though I haven't even done one upload yet, knome.  I might be very bad you know!
[00:05] <bluesabre> knome: getting started now, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeanDavis/MOTUApplication
[00:05] <bluesabre> ^ first draft
[00:07] <Unit193> Didn't take some templates out, "like least in Ubuntu"
[00:09] <bluesabre> not yet anyway
[00:09] <bluesabre> :D
[00:09] <bluesabre> whats up Unit193?
[00:10] <bluesabre> you should skip motu and apply for core-dev, just for the heck of it ;)
[00:14] <Unit193> Hah, riiiight.  Like I'm half that good.  I don't get (nor like) the main <-> universe thing. :D
[00:14] <bluesabre> :)
[00:15] <Unit193> Though, I'm a year after you for packageset right?  So another year for MOTU.
[00:15] <bluesabre> if they give it to me, sure :D
[00:31] <Unit193> If they don't, another year after that.
[00:34] <bluesabre> knome, ochosi, micahg: Any suggestions on what I've scribbled down here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeanDavis/MOTUApplication
[00:47] <pleia2> knome: nice, congrats? :)
[08:44] <knome> pleia2, haha, well, yeah, i guess, more commas
[08:44] <knome> bluesabre, s/for some time/since XXX/
[08:45] <knome> bluesabre, s/xubuntu/Xubuntu/
[08:46] <knome> bluesabre, you help maintain more than those packages, things that come to mind are xubuntu-docs, shimmer-themes
[08:49] <knome> bluesabre, maybe you'd want to say something about the xubuntu release team and how you collaborate with the ubuntu release team
[08:50] <knome> bluesabre, other than that, looks very good for a first draft
[10:57] <bluesabre> micahg: got the ack to upload shimmer-themes, if you get a chance, can be sponsored from https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/sponsoring
[10:58] <bluesabre> micahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/+bug/1497228
[11:02] <bluesabre> unless you'd be interested in sponsoring this one for us, Logan ?
[11:04] <bluesabre> knome: thanks
[11:41] <knome> bluesabre, np
[11:46] <flocculant> good day peeps
[11:48] <knome> hello flocculant 
[11:49] <knome> bluesabre, see #kubuntu-devel - TL;DR: they'll update breeze on december (to depend on another gtk theme) and then we should get shimmer-themes back
[11:59] <flocculant> bug 1497918 
[19:38] <flexiondotorg> bluesabre, I've just been smoke testing Ubuntu MATE.
[19:38] <flexiondotorg> I noticed the rick auto-login during install is not working anymore.
[19:39] <flexiondotorg> I've test Xubuntu 15.10 daily and found the same issue.
[19:39] <flexiondotorg> I think this patch might be related - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1484083
[19:50] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: mmm - lightdm is just a pita
[19:58] <flocculant> hard to tell which file should have that in - we don't get /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[19:58] <flocculant> but yea - see the same thing here
[20:03] <flocculant> so manually building the file works
[20:06] <flocculant> bluesabre: xfpanel switcher for preset panels - nice \o/ 
[20:07] <flexiondotorg>  /etc/lightdm.conf just contains this on Ubuntu MATE now:
[20:07] <flexiondotorg> [Seat:*]
[20:08] <flocculant> just that? 
[20:08] <flexiondotorg> Yep.
[20:08] <flocculant> right - well we don't actually get lightdm.conf at all 
[20:08] <flexiondotorg> Xubuntu and Ubuntu MATE provide their own custom configs.
[20:08] <flexiondotorg> But I can't find anything setting the auto-login
[20:09] <flocculant> right - I had to manually create /etc/lightdm.conf.d/file.conf 
[20:09] <flocculant> with [Seat:*] and session and user details and it worked ok 
[20:10] <flocculant> mmm - hang on - didn't see the emptyish one you have :D
[20:12] <flocculant> so - that should work
[20:12] <flocculant> but not sure why it's broken - got a month to sort it out
[20:15] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: well I've commented on bug 
[20:27] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, Thanks.
[20:28] <flocculant> fiddling with the other files we DO have makes no difference 
[20:28] <flocculant> autologin isn't something we actually test 
[20:28] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, I also test one with auto login and one without.
[20:28] <flexiondotorg> It only stopped working recently.
[20:29] <flexiondotorg> I've added an Ubuntu MATE comment to that bug too.
[20:29] <flocculant> awesome copy/paste :D
[20:30] <flexiondotorg> Yep :-)
[20:30] <flocculant> though to be honest - we might have been better doing a new bug and critically failing on the tracker :D
[20:30] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, I plan on doing the tracker thing when the beta testing starts.
[20:31] <flocculant> if Robert Ancell doesn't pop up on it - new bug ;)
[20:31] <flocculant> ok - well if you report it let me know and I'll confirm etc 
[20:32] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, OK
[20:33] <flocculant> in the meantime - added a reminder for me on release note draft
[20:34] <ochosi> evening all
[20:35] <ochosi> knome: did that kubuntu chat go anywhere in the end?
[20:35] <ochosi> oh gee
[20:35] <knome> ochosi, they said they will move to another gtk theme for breeze in december
[20:35] <flocculant> evening ochosi :)
[20:35] <ochosi> december is really late
[20:35] <flocculant> evening knome too :)
[20:35] <knome> ochosi, i know, but they can likely help with the uploads if we need to do stuff before that
[20:36] <ochosi> knome: yeah, sorry, was slow to read the backlog here (had only read the one in #k-devel)
[20:38] <ochosi> bluesabre: looks good! (re: MOTU application)
[20:40] <knome> ochosi, do we have uploads for shimmer-themes in sight before the release then?
[20:44] <ochosi> knome: well that's hard to anticipate
[20:44] <knome> ochosi, if that happens, just ping me and i'll take care of it
[20:44] <ochosi> just afraid we might lose track of that again with thise  long horizon
[20:44] <knome> ochosi, i'll track it, don't worry
[20:45] <knome> we can even add it to the new blueprint if that helps you relax
[20:45] <ochosi> sure :)
[20:46] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: if I spell autlogin properly in the file we do have - then it does in fact work ... 
[20:46] <ochosi> guess we can mark that workitem done r postponed then
[20:47] <knome> ochosi, both done
[20:48] <ochosi> ty
[20:48] <knome> np
[20:48] <knome> (i assigned it to kubuntu-dev...)
[20:48] <knome> they probably don't care because they have no way to track that
[20:48] <knome> HAHA!
[20:48]  * knome calms down
[20:49] <ochosi> :D
[20:57] <flocculant> completely or just a bit?
[20:57] <knome> just a bit, for just a moment
[20:57] <flocculant> heh
[21:00] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, So can you share a link to a paste of the correct config?
[21:02] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: for us at least http://pastebin.com/KkGaaewB
[21:05] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, OK, so you manually edit the xubuntu conf.
[21:07] <flocculant> yea - mostly to check it worked 
[21:08] <flocculant> just installed a vivid with autologin - that works, updating etc then see what happens on upgrade to wily
[21:09] <flocculant> but that'll be tomorrow ... 
[21:10] <flocculant> night all
[21:31] <ochosi> night floc	
[21:32] <knome> nighty flocculant 
[21:36] <ochosi> knome: there you go, new nice update for greybird
[21:36] <knome> lol
[21:36] <ochosi> do we really have to wait until december for ppl to get that? :>
[21:37] <ochosi> (fun with timing: i think the shimmer-themes 2.0.2 upload just got the UIFe)
[21:37] <knome> hah
[21:37] <bluesabre> micahg: thanks for the upload
[21:38] <ochosi> and evening bluesabre 
[21:38] <bluesabre> hey ochosi 
[21:39] <ochosi> now that you're here, it's time for me to go to bed (nothing personal though)
[21:39] <bluesabre> hey knome
[21:39] <bluesabre> D:
[21:39] <bluesabre> :'(
[21:39] <ochosi> stupid timezones...
[21:39] <knome> hello bluesabre 
[21:39] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: ok so vivid works, vivid updated works, vivid to wily upgrade fails - pretty much as I expected 
[21:39] <knome> nighty ochosi 
[21:39] <flocculant> yep night all - really going now :)
[21:39] <bluesabre> flocculant: g'night
[21:39] <ochosi> still working on switching to xubuntu @work btw...
[21:40] <flocculant> hi bluesabre :)
[21:41] <bluesabre> hi flocculant 
[21:41] <bluesabre> bye everyone, bbabl
[21:41] <Unit193> bluesabre: Hi.
[21:43] <ochosi> bluesabre: btw, there was another greeter MR in case you wanna take a look... (i really don't get to it atm and i'd rather review jjfrv8's thunar docs)
[21:43] <ochosi> bluesabre: just to be sure, i'm talking about this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~kalgasnik/lightdm-gtk-greeter/lp-1445420-greeter-show-manual-login-fixed/+merge/263830
[21:43] <ochosi> night all!
[21:44] <Unit193> G'night.
[21:46] <bluesabre> night ochosi
[21:46] <bluesabre> yeah, need to review that tonight
[23:31] <pleia2> happy new year!
[23:31] <pleia2> o/ knome 
[23:32] <knome> oi pleia2!
[23:35] <knome> pleia2, what's up? :)
[23:35] <pleia2> I got a lot of emails :)
[23:35] <knome> haha
[23:35] <knome> yeah, of course
[23:35] <knome> sorry for the spam everybody
[23:36] <pleia2> hehe
[23:36] <pleia2> knome: did you have a look at my flyer draft post?
[23:36] <knome> nope, did you ask me to?
[23:36] <pleia2> I did!
[23:36] <knome> oh, then sorry :(
[23:36] <knome> i'll look now
[23:36] <pleia2> is ok :)
[23:37] <knome> oh wow
[23:37] <pleia2> "this is a disaster!"
[23:37] <knome> those images are like, awful :D
[23:37] <pleia2> hahaha
[23:37] <knome> where did the padding go
[23:37] <pleia2> well, do what you will
[23:37] <pleia2> inkscape > export as png
[23:38] <knome> and you selected drawing as the area to export, not page, i guess?
[23:38] <pleia2> I didn't select anything, so yeah probably :)
[23:38] <knome> heh
[23:38] <knome> one question:
[23:39] <knome> do we really need to lay them out like that, or would it be enough that we created some kind of nicer looking image and linked to a pdf from that
[23:39] <pleia2> knome: pro tip: don't let pleia2 do anything with images
[23:39] <knome> becuase that eats a lot of space and is kind of meh
[23:39] <pleia2> yeah sure
[23:39] <knome> ok, i'll craft something
[23:39] <pleia2> thank you
[23:39] <knome> now i'll try to read the text
[23:40] <pleia2> haha, there isn't much
[23:40] <knome> well i guess i would mention one thing
[23:41] <knome> after the license and blahblah text, it could be good to mention that we actually encourage people to take part in improving the official flyer instead of creating weirdo spinoffs
[23:41] <knome> and something about translations
[23:41]  * pleia2 nods
[23:41] <pleia2> how are we supporting translations?
[23:41] <knome> in no way, yet
[23:42] <pleia2> so what should we say about them? :)
[23:42] <knome> but if people are interested in translating it, i guess the same procedure applies as to the startubuntu flavored one
[23:42] <pleia2> ok
[23:42] <knome> and i guess we'll also help them to get the layouting right, so if they are struggling with it, better ask us than create a silly version
[23:43] <pleia2> how do you generate your pdfs from the svgs, just inkscape export? (but with padding!)
[23:43] <knome> with the script in the repository
[23:43] <pleia2> oh right
[23:44] <knome> but yeah, it's basically an inkscape export, then pdftk to make those files a single PDF
[23:44]  * pleia2 nods
[23:44] <knome> and for _print, text is converted to paths
[23:45] <knome> so even if you sent it to a commercial printer that was ignorant and stupid, they couldn't mess up the font