[06:24] good mornings [06:49] morning [06:49] will skip the good for now [07:02] Morning [07:03] thatgraemeguy: It will be better than yesterday [07:20] thatgraemeguy: why the change to lowercase? === MaNL is now known as MaNI [08:08] superfly: Have you ever used Kivy? [08:08] http://kivy.org/#home [10:14] good afternoon [10:50] wb pieter2627 [10:50] you ready for the meeting this evening? [10:51] the month went way too quick for me yet again [10:53] inetpro: yes, will sort notes soon [10:53] thanks [10:53] * pieter2627 can't believe it is time again [11:00] I accidentally burnt down my entire haskell stack -_- [11:01] Now I don't know how to fix it [11:12] maaz tell gremble "I am pinging myself" [11:12] gremble: Righto, I'll tell gremble on freenode [11:12] I don't think my theming is working as intended [11:12] gremble: By the way, gremble on freenode told me "tell gremble "I am pinging myself"" 20 seconds ago [11:21] maaz tell gremble it works [11:21] gremble: Okay, I'll tell gremble on freenode [11:21] does it work? [11:21] gremble: By the way, gremble on freenode told me "tell gremble it works" 14 seconds ago [11:21] It does indeed [14:49] afternoon all [14:50] hurry up and take your time is the motto of our public medical system [14:51] check again, then book me in on the 13th and surgery on the 15th [14:51] so should make tonights meeting if im not sleeping [17:42] hmm... [17:43] so where are the clever tablet users [17:44] at kalafong hospital my sisters tablet sees afrihost wifi but when she taps connect it says failed to authenticate [17:48] oh she says she entered many zeroes then replied with weak signal [17:48] so wasnt an authentication prob [17:49] you can all breathe again [17:49] ohi superfly hows the family and you? [18:00] Kilos: they have chiken pox [18:00] *chicken [18:00] aw shame [18:01] they're about halfway through, will only get better from here [18:02] ai! [18:02] vasbyt [18:18] hi Cryterion kulelu88 inetpro [18:18] and pietie and octoquad [18:18] hi [18:18] and all other nother peeps [18:19] meeting on tonight? [18:19] i think so [18:19] and im falling asleep , sigh [18:28] almost time... [18:29] oom Kilos nog reg? [18:30] shouldn't it be 29 september? last tuesday of each month [18:31] 4th thurs of the month, seems that we should start [18:32] Good evening evvery one [18:32] Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - Sept 2015 [18:32] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:33] Good evening again everyone and thank you for joining our monthly meeting. [18:33] As always, Maaz is taking the minutes so please introduce yourself using `Maaz: I am ` eg. [18:33] ek hier pieter2627 [18:33] Maaz: I am Jaco Stroebel [18:33] gremble: Done [18:33] Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht [18:33] pieter2627: Okay [18:34] Maaz I am Miles Sharpe [18:34] Kilos: Yessir [18:34] * pieter2627 almost thought he was the only one [18:34] guess the others have to be pinged [18:34] inetpro ping [18:35] kulelu88 ping [18:35] MaNI ping [18:35] gremble ping [18:35] Maaz: I am Gavin Bauer [18:35] Cryterion: Done [18:35] stucomplex ping [18:35] pong [18:35] Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:35] inetpro: Yessir [18:35] sanibonani [18:35] hi inetpro [18:36] today's meeting agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150922 [18:36] take a quick min to go through it and please feel free to make any last minute topic suggestions [18:36] oops forgot something... [18:36] Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:36] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:36] Maaz I am jeandre le roux [18:36] theblazehen: Okay [18:37] hi theblazehen [18:37] Maaz: I am kulelu88 [18:37] kulelu88: Done [18:37] hey Kilos [18:38] Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting [18:38] Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:38] the previous meeting's minutes can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150728 [18:40] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [18:40] superfly: Sure [18:40] i made notes to the wrong link previous minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150825 [18:41] i no has issues with it then we will be moving on in a bit... [18:41] im fine [18:42] Maaz: topic Plans for 2015 [18:42] Current Topic: Plans for 2015 [18:42] pieter2627: we can always fix it later if necessary [18:42] i am only going to give a minute's waiting time for anyone to add something that they might have here [18:42] cool [18:42] no one spotted the error, so wonder who went to look anyway [18:43] * inetpro is way too tired [18:43] ok, in the future we would hopefully have more for this topic [18:43] so if anyone wants to sign the COC or wants to become a member then speaking to Kilos or superfly would be your best bet [18:43] to join our Trello just speak to inetpro and for a launchpad ID just speak up [18:43] everyone has too much on their minds to even remember what was agreed on last meeting [18:44] nono [18:44] I just signed up for the trello (again I think) [18:44] inetpro and superfly [18:44] Kilos: thought you are a member and not inetpro [18:45] lol ya but inetpro had to help me to sign the COC [18:45] thats a big job [18:46] we have a how to on trello as well [18:46] https://help.launchpad.net/Signing%20the%20Ubuntu%20Code%20of%20Conduct for anyone interested [18:46] If the guideline got updated to include the posting key to keyserver, then the guideline would be 100% [18:46] ty gremble [18:46] ah ok, moving on... [18:47] Maaz: topic Events [18:47] Current Topic: Events [18:47] SFD was over the weekend and was quite exciting... [18:47] theblazehen do you and gremble have feedback from sfd [18:48] i understand that gremble was also there [18:48] Yup. [18:48] pieter2627: you ended up going as well? [18:48] inetpro: yes [18:48] nice! [18:48] well done [18:49] I'm busy with a write-up. Took notes and stuff, so I will host it on the internet somewhere for those that didn't attend to read [18:49] we need them in more areas though [18:49] here is a quick summary - gremble and theblazehen correct me on errors [18:49] Seaparo Phala, the CIO for the Department of Arts and Culture, told us what government is trying to do to increase FOSS usage and he highlighted the 4 FOSS users [18:49] as a note, he mentioned a few government departments that make use of FOSS [18:50] next, Dave Russell from Microsoft highlighted how they have had FOSS for awhile but it has not received the best of marketing and how they might increase that in the future [18:50] > Free as in beer not FOSS [18:51] ai! [18:51] ^^ that for Microsoft [18:51] FOSS with the opening of stuff like .Net Core earlier this year [18:51] sounds like old spinning tactics to me [18:51] Dr Leti Kleyn from UP highlighted why research should be more open and accessible [18:52] Aslam Raffee, the former CIO of the Department of Science and Technology, explained how the copyright amendment bill might go against OSS contribution in SA [18:52] Shahn van Zyl mentioned how a company called LSD runs assessments for public companies to help them switch over to FOSS [18:53] Tim Haak showed how to use docker and gave a few tips for new and advance users [18:53] Henti Smith explained how Bacula, a backup suite, works and highlighted its features [18:53] Nevar Fourie how digital contracts can be created using Ethereum - lents somewhat from bitCoin but is for where two items/entities are transfered between parties in a fool proof and open manner [18:53] almost done... [18:54] Mark Clarke showed the basics of react - a js library [18:54] Ross Addis from Redhat talked about the hybrid cloud and reasons for the open cloud [18:55] gremble: will you be able to post a link for your summary on the list [18:55] mailinglist? Sure [18:55] and is anyone interested in a more complete note set? [18:55] or paste bin [18:55] pieter2627: nice list, thanks for sharing [18:55] ty pieter2627 [18:56] np [18:56] pieter2627: how many people were there? [18:57] i would guess 60... depending on how many were behind me [18:57] Maybe ~50 to ~70? [18:57] yeah [18:58] 60 might be overstated also [18:58] The turn-out wasn't very good [18:58] Yeah :/ [18:58] We should work on marketing I think [18:58] hmm... [18:58] Pretty much no one did key signing [18:58] there were train problems as well... some arrived late [18:58] more than 50 is not bad though [18:58] Just me, and charl Le Roux, the organiser [18:59] Needs more advertising [18:59] clearly we have work to do for the next one :-) [19:00] * inetpro wondering how we can get more people to come [19:00] anyone have anything to raise for other events on the agenda? [19:00] media [19:00] tswane tv and news papers [19:00] and fb [19:01] Kilos: it was advertised on fb [19:01] or whatever your media of choice is... [19:01] ok [19:02] if each one those a little bit of what he/she can then is will add up i think [19:02] yip [19:02] so no news for the installfests in cpt? [19:03] and no one planning on organizing any new events? [19:03] I just have the tlug, but that is not really an event, more of a thing [19:04] gremble: tlug? [19:04] pieter2627: did the arts and culture guys talk about the DASA event coming in October? [19:04] Either TuksLUG or TshwaneLUG. We'll do both. Karl suggested that I link up with him [19:05] Inaugural meeting of Drupal users in Government and NGO sector http://www.meetup.com/Drupal-Pretoria-Arcadia-NGO-gov [19:05] Kilos: does getting involved mean taking an interest in their events? [19:05] inetpro: not that i can remember [19:05] glad you got together with kmf gremble [19:06] Kilos: involved with lugs that is.. [19:06] inna way [19:06] you choose what you want to get involved in [19:07] tey must has stuff going thats of interet to you [19:07] they [19:07] i mean under the Misc section we have 'get more involved with lugs to promote ubuntu and foss together' [19:07] the plan was that we work together more [19:08] even though we are mainly ubuntu we are linux as well [19:08] and foss [19:09] ok... [19:09] who is planning on attending PyCon? [19:09] so why let lugs do their thing and we do ours [19:10] strength in numbers [19:10] Kilos: we are not a lug [19:10] ya inetpro but we can work and play with them [19:11] kindred spirits so to say [19:11] each one has it's own character, oviously anyone can join anywhere else [19:11] so that covers events? [19:12] pieter2627: no [19:12] inetpro: what did i miss? [19:12] release party [19:13] next release is coming soon now [19:13] I think we should start organising something again [19:13] at least we can try [19:14] ok... what is a release party? [19:14] Wily Werewolf getting released on 22 October 2015 [19:15] Ubuntu 15.10 [19:15] yes, so is the party on the weekend of the release? [19:15] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/RunningReleaseParty [19:16] i have only seen photos of this stuff not what they are... will check the link [19:17] so inetpro do you need a vote to see if we will have one, want to check the interest, etc? [19:17] somebody should just take the initiative and run with it [19:17] arrange a venue and send invites, etc [19:18] and we can have it in many locations all at the same time [19:19] invite a few friends and make it your own [19:19] inetpro: can you get us going with the one? [19:20] eish! [19:20] wb Cryterion_ [19:20] Lappy dead, going inside so can charge, be back soon [19:20] kk [19:21] pieter2627: I don't want to commit to anything right now, way too many other things on my plate [19:22] no other interest seem to arise... [19:22] I just had to mantion so we don't all forget about these basics [19:22] mention as well [19:22] releases happen every six months, and release parties are kinda fun [19:22] can we set out to start planing/shaping the basics details for the next release? [19:23] a party for it i mean?? [19:24] yeah I think we should at least have a big one for the LTS release in April [19:24] Maaz: agreed to start talking about a release party for 16.04 LTS [19:24] Agreed: to start talking about a release party for 16.04 LTS [19:25] i can mail the list about that tomorrow? [19:25] ty [19:25] Maaz: agreed pieter2627 to mail the list about a release party [19:25] Agreed: pieter2627 to mail the list about a release party [19:25] Maaz: topic Miscellaneous [19:25] Current Topic: Miscellaneous [19:26] we have had the ubuntu-in-the-wild on for awhile now [19:26] are all ok if we go ahead and create the ubuntu-in-the-wild page using Nikola's gallery feature? [19:27] other than that does anyone have anything else to add for topics under Misc? [19:28] * pieter2627 seems to be speaking to himself [19:29] lol [19:29] superfly: ^^ [19:29] no one is arguing with you man [19:29] i asked for confirmation not an argument... [19:29] lol [19:30] hehe [19:30] how about putting stuff on the wiki? [19:31] inetpro: i guess we can do that... [19:31] or on our fb, g+ and or twiiter feeds? [19:31] maybe i need to have a list of all the things i have for the next meeting so that we can make a choice.. [19:32] time seems to be running out... [19:32] * inetpro suggests using trello as a sandbox [19:33] ok will create the list there [19:33] Maaz: agreed pieter2627 to create a list on trello of ubuntu in the wild [19:33] Agreed: pieter2627 to create a list on trello of ubuntu in the wild [19:33] Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:33] Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:33] +1 for pieter2627 [19:33] pieter2627 +1 [19:34] pieter2627 yu are doing well [19:34] pieter2627: you're doing a great job and I know I may not be available in October [19:34] o [19:34] inetpro: we can also swap around sometime with africa's meetings if you want [19:34] oh ok [19:35] Maaz: agreed pieter2627 to chair the next meeting [19:35] Agreed: pieter2627 to chair the next meeting [19:35] Maaz: topic Next meeting [19:35] Current Topic: Next meeting [19:35] The next meeting is the 27th of Oct hope to see you all again [19:36] pieter2627 ty for stepping up and helping out [19:36] Maaz: agreed next meeting on Tuesday, 27 October 2015 @ 20:30 [19:36] Agreed: next meeting on Tuesday, 27 October 2015 @ 20:30 [19:36] thanks pieter2627 [19:36] np Kilos and inetpro [19:36] * inetpro calls it a day [19:36] good night everyone [19:36] that all thanks everyone for attending [19:36] Maaz: end meeting [19:36] Meeting Ended [19:36] Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-09-22-18-32-24.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-09-22-18-32-24.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-09-22-18-32-24.html [19:37] night from me too guys ty for being there [19:37] night all [19:53] and while the meeting was happening, somebody was trying to rob us [19:53] fekk, this country really is finished [19:53] They'll try and rob you in every country [19:55] nah, criminals in other countries are not brave enough to break in twice in 1 day [19:56] I wouldn't know. [19:56] I've never lived in another country [19:58] aah, this is africa I guess. [20:53] kulelu88: ai :-( did they manage to get away with anything, or was it just an attempt? [21:09] they stole stuff the first time and came back to steal some more superfly [21:10] what shocks me is how brave these criminals are. twice in 1 day??? [21:57] kulelu88: wow, I'm really sorry to hear that :-( [21:59] superfly: its okay man. thanks for the concern, but I guess this is a pandemic the whole country is dealing with