[06:24] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:49] <thatgraemeguy> morning
[06:49] <thatgraemeguy> will skip the good for now
[07:02] <Squirm> Morning
[07:03] <Squirm> thatgraemeguy: It will be better than yesterday
[07:20] <Squirm> thatgraemeguy: why the change to lowercase?
[08:08] <Squirm> superfly: Have you ever used Kivy?
[08:08] <Squirm> http://kivy.org/#home
[10:14] <pieter2627> good afternoon 
[10:50] <inetpro> wb pieter2627
[10:50] <inetpro> you ready for the meeting this evening?
[10:51] <inetpro> the month went way too quick for me yet again
[10:53] <pieter2627> inetpro: yes, will sort notes soon
[10:53] <inetpro> thanks
[10:53]  * pieter2627 can't believe it is time again
[11:00] <gremble> I accidentally burnt down my entire haskell stack -_-
[11:01] <gremble> Now I don't know how to fix it
[11:12] <gremble> maaz tell gremble "I am pinging myself"
[11:12] <Maaz> gremble: Righto, I'll tell gremble on freenode
[11:12] <gremble> I don't think my theming is working as intended
[11:12] <Maaz> gremble: By the way, gremble on freenode told me "tell gremble "I am pinging myself"" 20 seconds ago
[11:21] <gremble> maaz tell gremble it works
[11:21] <Maaz> gremble: Okay, I'll tell gremble on freenode
[11:21] <gremble> does it work?
[11:21] <Maaz> gremble: By the way, gremble on freenode told me "tell gremble it works" 14 seconds ago
[11:21] <gremble> It does indeed
[14:49] <Kilos> afternoon all
[14:50] <Kilos> hurry up and take your time is the motto of our public medical system
[14:51] <Kilos> check again, then book me in on the 13th and surgery on the 15th
[14:51] <Kilos> so should make tonights meeting if im not sleeping
[17:42] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:43] <Kilos> so where are the clever tablet users
[17:44] <Kilos> at kalafong hospital my sisters tablet sees afrihost wifi but when she taps connect it says failed to authenticate
[17:48] <Kilos> oh she says she entered many zeroes then replied with weak signal
[17:48] <Kilos> so wasnt an authentication prob
[17:49] <Kilos> you can all breathe again
[17:49] <Kilos> ohi superfly hows the family and you?
[18:00] <superfly> Kilos: they have chiken pox
[18:00] <superfly> *chicken
[18:00] <Kilos> aw shame
[18:01] <superfly> they're about halfway through, will only get better from here
[18:02] <Kilos> ai! 
[18:02] <Kilos> vasbyt
[18:18] <Kilos> hi Cryterion kulelu88 inetpro 
[18:18] <Kilos> and pietie and octoquad 
[18:18] <Cryterion> hi
[18:18] <Kilos> and all other nother peeps
[18:19] <Cryterion> meeting on tonight?
[18:19] <Kilos> i think so
[18:19] <Kilos> and im falling asleep , sigh
[18:28] <pieter2627> almost time...
[18:29] <pieter2627> oom Kilos nog reg?
[18:30] <kulelu88> shouldn't it be 29 september? last tuesday of each month
[18:31] <pieter2627> 4th thurs of the month, seems that we should start
[18:32] <gremble> Good evening evvery one
[18:32] <pieter2627> Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - Sept 2015
[18:32]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:33] <pieter2627> Good evening again everyone and thank you for joining our monthly meeting.
[18:33] <pieter2627> As always, Maaz is taking the minutes so please introduce yourself using `Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>` eg.
[18:33] <Kilos> ek hier pieter2627 
[18:33] <gremble> Maaz: I am Jaco Stroebel
[18:33] <Maaz> gremble: Done
[18:33] <pieter2627> Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht
[18:33] <Maaz> pieter2627: Okay
[18:34] <Kilos> Maaz I am Miles Sharpe
[18:34] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[18:34]  * pieter2627 almost thought he was the only one
[18:34] <pieter2627> guess the others have to be pinged
[18:34] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[18:35] <Kilos> kulelu88 ping
[18:35] <Kilos> MaNI ping
[18:35] <gremble> gremble ping
[18:35] <Cryterion> Maaz: I am Gavin Bauer
[18:35] <Maaz> Cryterion: Done
[18:35] <Kilos> stucomplex ping
[18:35] <MaNI> pong
[18:35] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer
[18:35] <Maaz> inetpro: Yessir
[18:35] <inetpro> sanibonani
[18:35] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[18:36] <pieter2627> today's meeting agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150922
[18:36] <pieter2627> take a quick min to go through it and please feel free to make any last minute topic suggestions
[18:36] <pieter2627> oops forgot something...
[18:36] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction
[18:36] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction
[18:36] <theblazehen> Maaz I am jeandre le roux
[18:36] <Maaz> theblazehen: Okay
[18:37] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[18:37] <kulelu88> Maaz: I am kulelu88 
[18:37] <Maaz> kulelu88: Done
[18:37] <theblazehen> hey Kilos
[18:38] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:38] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:38] <pieter2627> the previous meeting's minutes can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150728
[18:40] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman
[18:40] <Maaz> superfly: Sure
[18:40] <pieter2627> i made notes to the wrong link previous minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150825
[18:41] <pieter2627> i no has issues with it then we will be moving on in a bit...
[18:41] <Kilos> im fine
[18:42] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Plans for 2015
[18:42] <Maaz> Current Topic: Plans for 2015
[18:42] <inetpro> pieter2627: we can always fix it later if necessary
[18:42] <pieter2627> i am only going to give a minute's waiting time for anyone to add something that they might have here
[18:42] <Kilos> cool
[18:42] <pieter2627> no one spotted the error, so wonder who went to look anyway
[18:43]  * inetpro is way too tired 
[18:43] <pieter2627> ok, in the future we would hopefully have more for this topic
[18:43] <pieter2627> so if anyone wants to sign the  COC or wants to become a member then speaking to Kilos or superfly would be your best bet
[18:43] <pieter2627> to join our Trello just speak to inetpro and for a launchpad ID just speak up
[18:43] <Kilos> everyone has too much on their minds to even remember what was agreed on  last meeting
[18:44] <Kilos> nono
[18:44] <gremble> I just signed up for the trello (again I think)
[18:44] <Kilos> inetpro and superfly 
[18:44] <pieter2627> Kilos: thought you are a member and not inetpro 
[18:45] <Kilos> lol ya but inetpro had to help me to sign the COC
[18:45] <Kilos> thats a big job
[18:46] <Kilos> we have a how to on trello as well
[18:46] <gremble> https://help.launchpad.net/Signing%20the%20Ubuntu%20Code%20of%20Conduct for anyone interested
[18:46] <Cryterion> If the guideline got updated to include the posting key to keyserver, then the guideline would be 100%
[18:46] <Kilos> ty gremble 
[18:46] <pieter2627> ah ok, moving on...
[18:47] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Events
[18:47] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events
[18:47] <pieter2627> SFD was over the weekend and was quite exciting...
[18:47] <Kilos> theblazehen do you and gremble have feedback from sfd
[18:48] <pieter2627> i understand that gremble was also there
[18:48] <gremble> Yup.
[18:48] <inetpro> pieter2627: you ended up going as well?
[18:48] <pieter2627> inetpro: yes
[18:48] <inetpro> nice! 
[18:48] <Kilos> well done
[18:49] <gremble> I'm busy with a write-up. Took notes and stuff, so I will host it on the internet somewhere for those that didn't attend to read
[18:49] <Cryterion> we need them in more areas though
[18:49] <pieter2627> here is a quick summary - gremble and theblazehen correct me on errors
[18:49] <pieter2627> Seaparo Phala, the CIO for the Department of Arts and Culture, told us what government is trying to do to increase FOSS usage and he highlighted the 4 FOSS users 
[18:49] <pieter2627> as a note, he mentioned a few government departments that make use of FOSS
[18:50] <pieter2627> next, Dave Russell from Microsoft highlighted how they have had FOSS for awhile but it has not received the best of marketing and how they might increase that in the future
[18:50] <gremble> > Free as in beer not FOSS
[18:51] <inetpro> ai!
[18:51] <pieter2627> ^^ that for Microsoft
[18:51] <gremble> FOSS with the opening of stuff like .Net Core earlier this year
[18:51] <inetpro> sounds like old spinning tactics to me
[18:51] <pieter2627> Dr Leti Kleyn from UP highlighted why research should be more open and accessible
[18:52] <pieter2627> Aslam Raffee, the former CIO of the Department of Science and Technology, explained how the copyright amendment bill might go against OSS contribution in SA
[18:52] <pieter2627> Shahn van Zyl mentioned how a company called LSD runs assessments for public companies to help them switch over to FOSS
[18:53] <pieter2627> Tim Haak showed how to use docker and gave a few tips for new and advance users
[18:53] <pieter2627> Henti Smith explained how Bacula, a backup suite, works and highlighted its features
[18:53] <pieter2627> Nevar Fourie how digital contracts can be created using Ethereum - lents somewhat from bitCoin but is for where two items/entities are transfered between parties in a fool proof and open manner
[18:53] <pieter2627> almost done...
[18:54] <pieter2627> Mark Clarke showed the basics of react - a js library
[18:54] <pieter2627> Ross Addis from Redhat talked about the hybrid cloud and reasons for the open cloud
[18:55] <pieter2627> gremble: will you be able to post a link for your summary on the list
[18:55] <gremble> mailinglist? Sure
[18:55] <pieter2627> and is anyone interested in a more complete note set?
[18:55] <Kilos> or paste bin
[18:55] <inetpro> pieter2627: nice list, thanks for sharing
[18:55] <Kilos> ty pieter2627 
[18:56] <pieter2627> np
[18:56] <inetpro> pieter2627: how many people were there?
[18:57] <pieter2627> i would guess 60... depending on how many were behind me
[18:57] <theblazehen> Maybe ~50 to ~70?
[18:57] <theblazehen> yeah
[18:58] <pieter2627> 60 might be overstated also
[18:58] <gremble> The turn-out wasn't very good
[18:58] <theblazehen> Yeah :/
[18:58] <gremble> We should work on marketing I think
[18:58] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:58] <theblazehen> Pretty much no one did key signing
[18:58] <pieter2627> there were train problems as well... some arrived late
[18:58] <inetpro> more than 50 is not bad though
[18:58] <theblazehen> Just me, and charl Le Roux, the organiser
[18:59] <gremble> Needs more advertising
[18:59] <inetpro> clearly we have work to do for the next one :-)
[19:00]  * inetpro wondering how we can get more people to come
[19:00] <pieter2627> anyone have anything to raise for other events on the agenda?
[19:00] <Kilos> media
[19:00] <Kilos> tswane tv and news papers
[19:00] <Kilos> and fb
[19:01] <inetpro> Kilos: it was advertised on fb
[19:01] <pieter2627> or whatever your media of choice is...
[19:01] <Kilos> ok
[19:02] <pieter2627> if each one those a little bit of what he/she can then is will add up i think
[19:02] <Kilos> yip
[19:02] <pieter2627> so no news for the installfests in cpt?
[19:03] <pieter2627> and no one planning on organizing any new events?
[19:03] <gremble> I just have the tlug, but that is not really an event, more of a thing
[19:04] <pieter2627> gremble: tlug?
[19:04] <inetpro> pieter2627: did the arts and culture guys talk about the DASA event coming in October?
[19:04] <gremble> Either TuksLUG or TshwaneLUG. We'll do both. Karl suggested that I link up with him
[19:05] <inetpro> Inaugural meeting of Drupal users in Government and NGO sector http://www.meetup.com/Drupal-Pretoria-Arcadia-NGO-gov
[19:05] <pieter2627> Kilos: does getting involved mean taking an interest in their events?
[19:05] <pieter2627> inetpro: not that i can remember
[19:05] <Kilos> glad you got together with kmf gremble 
[19:06] <pieter2627> Kilos: involved with lugs that is..
[19:06] <Kilos> inna way
[19:06] <Kilos> you choose what you want to get involved in
[19:07] <Kilos> tey must has stuff going thats of interet to you
[19:07] <Kilos> they
[19:07] <pieter2627> i mean under the Misc section we have 'get more involved with lugs to promote ubuntu and foss together'
[19:07] <Kilos> the plan was that we work together  more
[19:08] <Kilos> even though we are mainly ubuntu we are linux as well
[19:08] <Kilos> and foss
[19:09] <pieter2627> ok...
[19:09] <pieter2627> who is planning on attending PyCon?
[19:09] <Kilos> so why let lugs do their thing and we do ours
[19:10] <Kilos> strength in numbers
[19:10] <inetpro> Kilos: we are not a lug
[19:10] <Kilos> ya inetpro but we can work and play with them
[19:11] <Kilos> kindred spirits so to say
[19:11] <inetpro> each one has it's own character, oviously anyone can join anywhere else
[19:11] <pieter2627> so that covers events?
[19:12] <inetpro> pieter2627: no
[19:12] <pieter2627> inetpro: what did i miss?
[19:12] <inetpro> release party
[19:13] <inetpro> next release is coming soon now
[19:13] <inetpro> I think we should start organising something again
[19:13] <inetpro> at least we can try 
[19:14] <pieter2627> ok... what is a release party?
[19:14] <inetpro> Wily Werewolf getting released on 22 October 2015 
[19:15] <inetpro> Ubuntu 15.10
[19:15] <pieter2627> yes, so is the party on the weekend of the release? 
[19:15] <inetpro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/RunningReleaseParty
[19:16] <pieter2627> i have only seen photos of this stuff not what they are... will check the link
[19:17] <pieter2627> so inetpro do you need a vote to see if we will have one, want to check the interest, etc?
[19:17] <inetpro> somebody should just take the initiative and run with it
[19:17] <inetpro> arrange a venue and send invites, etc
[19:18] <inetpro> and we can have it in many locations all at the same time
[19:19] <inetpro> invite a few friends and make it your own
[19:19] <pieter2627> inetpro: can you get us going with the one?
[19:20] <inetpro> eish!
[19:20] <Kilos> wb Cryterion_ 
[19:20] <Cryterion_> Lappy dead, going inside so can charge, be back soon
[19:20] <Kilos> kk
[19:21] <inetpro> pieter2627: I don't want to commit to anything right now, way too many other things on my plate
[19:22] <pieter2627> no other interest seem to arise...
[19:22] <inetpro> I just had to mantion so we don't all forget about these basics
[19:22] <inetpro> mention as well
[19:22] <inetpro> releases happen every six months, and release parties are kinda fun
[19:22] <pieter2627> can we set out to start planing/shaping the basics details for the next release?
[19:23] <pieter2627> a party for it i mean??
[19:24] <inetpro> yeah I think we should at least have a big one for the LTS release in April
[19:24] <pieter2627> Maaz: agreed to start talking about a release party for 16.04 LTS
[19:24] <Maaz> Agreed: to start talking about a release party for 16.04 LTS
[19:25] <pieter2627> i can mail the list about that tomorrow?
[19:25] <inetpro> ty
[19:25] <pieter2627> Maaz: agreed pieter2627 to mail the list about a release party
[19:25] <Maaz> Agreed: pieter2627 to mail the list about a release party
[19:25] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Miscellaneous
[19:25] <Maaz> Current Topic: Miscellaneous
[19:26] <pieter2627> we have had the ubuntu-in-the-wild on for awhile now
[19:26] <pieter2627> are all ok if we go ahead and create the ubuntu-in-the-wild page using Nikola's gallery feature?
[19:27] <pieter2627> other than that does anyone have anything else to add for topics under Misc?
[19:28]  * pieter2627 seems to be speaking to himself
[19:29] <Kilos> lol
[19:29] <inetpro> superfly: ^^
[19:29] <Kilos> no one is arguing with you man
[19:29] <pieter2627> i asked for confirmation not an argument...
[19:29] <inetpro> lol
[19:30] <Kilos> hehe
[19:30] <inetpro> how about putting stuff on the wiki?
[19:31] <pieter2627> inetpro: i guess we can do that...
[19:31] <inetpro> or on our fb, g+ and or twiiter feeds?
[19:31] <pieter2627> maybe i need to have a list of all the things i have for the next meeting so that we can make a choice..
[19:32] <pieter2627> time seems to be running out...
[19:32]  * inetpro suggests using trello as a sandbox
[19:33] <pieter2627> ok will create the list there
[19:33] <pieter2627> Maaz: agreed pieter2627 to create a list on trello of ubuntu in the wild
[19:33] <Maaz> Agreed: pieter2627 to create a list on trello of ubuntu in the wild
[19:33] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:33] <Maaz> Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:33] <inetpro> +1 for pieter2627
[19:33] <Kilos> pieter2627 +1
[19:34] <Kilos> pieter2627 yu are doing well
[19:34] <inetpro> pieter2627: you're doing a great job and I know I may not be available in October
[19:34] <Kilos> o
[19:34] <pieter2627> inetpro: we can also swap around sometime with africa's meetings if you want
[19:34] <pieter2627> oh ok
[19:35] <pieter2627> Maaz: agreed pieter2627 to chair the next meeting
[19:35] <Maaz> Agreed: pieter2627 to chair the next meeting
[19:35] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Next meeting
[19:35] <Maaz> Current Topic: Next meeting
[19:35] <pieter2627> The next meeting is the 27th of Oct hope to see you all again
[19:36] <Kilos> pieter2627 ty for stepping up and helping out
[19:36] <pieter2627> Maaz: agreed next meeting on Tuesday, 27 October 2015 @ 20:30
[19:36] <Maaz> Agreed: next meeting on Tuesday, 27 October 2015 @ 20:30
[19:36] <inetpro> thanks pieter2627
[19:36] <pieter2627> np Kilos and inetpro 
[19:36]  * inetpro calls it a day
[19:36] <inetpro> good night everyone
[19:36] <pieter2627> that all thanks everyone for attending
[19:36] <pieter2627> Maaz: end meeting
[19:36] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[19:36] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-09-22-18-32-24.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-09-22-18-32-24.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-09-22-18-32-24.html
[19:37] <Kilos> night from me too guys ty for being there
[19:37] <pieter2627> night all
[19:53] <kulelu88> and while the meeting was happening, somebody was trying to rob us
[19:53] <kulelu88> fekk, this country really is finished
[19:53] <gremble> They'll try and rob you in every country
[19:55] <kulelu88> nah, criminals in other countries are not brave enough to break in twice in 1 day
[19:56] <gremble> I wouldn't know.
[19:56] <gremble> I've never lived in another country
[19:58] <kulelu88> aah, this is africa I guess. 
[20:53] <superfly> kulelu88: ai :-( did they manage to get away with anything, or was it just an attempt?
[21:09] <kulelu88> they stole stuff the first time and came back to steal some more superfly 
[21:10] <kulelu88> what shocks me is how brave these criminals are. twice in 1 day???
[21:57] <superfly> kulelu88: wow, I'm really sorry to hear that :-(
[21:59] <kulelu88> superfly: its okay man. thanks for the concern, but I guess this is a pandemic the whole country is dealing with