[00:11] <noahmg123> ok. it now does not work on either my admin account or my non admin account
[00:12] <JOW> Hey guys, so here's the deal
[00:12] <JOW> I'm trying to install the gazebo form the gazebo site
[00:12] <JOW> because what I have came with ROS
[00:12] <JOW> so form the site it's more complete
[00:12] <noahmg123> the switching of profiles on my bluetooth headset
[00:13] <JOW> but now it doesn't install and tells me that I have something broken or something like that
[00:13] <JOW> ... =(
[00:13] <JOW> And how can I fix this? Because, like, I have so many gazebos all around the computer.... I don't even know what to delete so I could start from zero...
[00:14] <JOW> somebody help!
[00:14] <ceibal> nk
[00:18] <JOW> nevermind...
[00:18] <Aniar> hi. I have a weird problem I can't figure out - I just fresh-built Kubuntu 15.04 on an SSD on a Thinkpad.  Every time I reboot /usr/sbin/bluetoothd is 0644. I "chmod +x /usr/sbin/bluetooth && systemctl start bluetooth" and BT works. but next reboot, it's back to 644.  /home is NOT mounted separately, and I'm not losing any data there, so this is specific, as far as I can see, to /usr/sbin/bluetoothd. anyone seen anything like this
[00:20] <headkase> Aniar: it is a really bad hack, but, chattr +i /usr/sbin/bluetooth to make the file immutable.  It is a really bad hack because eventually you'll get a package update for it and it won't be able to change that file.
[00:20] <headkase> Aniar: As in you should not follow that advice.  Immutable is usually for configuration files not binaries.
[00:20] <Aniar> headkase: yes, which is why I want to figure out what's breaking it. :)
[00:22] <Aniar> I've read the /etc/init/bluetooth and /etc/init.d/bluetooth scripts, but there's no answer I can see there. I'm still lookiing for the systemctl conf file
[00:23] <headkase> Aniar: off the top of my head, systemd files are in /etc/systemd/ and then targets below that.  That's off the top of my head though.
[00:23] <headkase> Aniar: and the files in there are symlinks to the .service files.
[00:23] <Aniar> headkase: that's what locate |grep says, too
[00:24] <Aniar> no apparent results in the /lib/systemd/system/bluetooth* files. :(
[00:24] <Aniar> (that is, no apparent causes of my lack of +x
[00:24] <headkase> Aniar: wish I could be no help other than that.
[00:25] <headkase> *be of more help other than that.
[00:25] <Aniar> heh, np, that's how IRC works.
[00:26] <Aniar> this channel is just too noisy for me to hang out on always.  #perl is enough distraction for me
[00:26] <noahmg123> OK. I am really frustrated with this. I got it to work once but that was it. I have a bluetooth headset that I want to play audio from my computer. It wont. I was able to switch the audio profile once (and get it to work), but that was it.
[00:26] <headkase> Aniar: IRC is the best time-waster I have yet discovered. ;)
[00:26] <Aniar> headkase: ++
[00:26] <Aniar> noahmg123: did you check the service ordering in your sound config?  my bluetooth devices in KDE came up BELOW the system soundcard
[00:27] <noahmg123> Aniar: how do I do that?
[00:27] <Aniar> noahmg123: I'm going to have to guess, but go into your system settings, choose your sound config.  You should see a "Pulse Audio" or something similar.
[00:28] <noahmg123> Aniar: I am in lxde. are you talking about pavucontrol?
[00:28] <Aniar> noahmg123: System -> Preferences -> Sound
[00:29] <Aniar> pavucontrol is lower level than you SHOULD need to go.
[00:29] <Aniar> wow, the help community on bluetooth is out of date
[00:29] <noahmg123> Aniar: it is not there in lxde (that I see)
[00:31] <Aniar> noahmg123: I don't know lxde at all, so I'm only pulling basic BT config.  I know in 14.10, I needed to follow this, but that system was the result of 4 years of constant upgrading: https://askubuntu.com/questions/366032/pulseaudio-not-detecting-bluetooth-headset-automatically
[00:31] <Aniar> noahmg123: I'm on 15.04, and when bluetoothd starts, I don' tneed to do anything to get autoswitching rowking.  But I'm  KDE user.
[00:31] <semyf> .
[00:32] <noahmg123> Aniar: been there. my computer recognizes it. it just cannot set the profile
[00:33] <Aniar> noahmg123: can't set the profile to a2dp? or can't play music to it?
[00:34] <noahmg123> Aniar: #1 and subsequently #2
[00:36] <Aniar> noahmg123: I can't help you with #1, but that'll cause #2, as it seems you've figured out. #1 in KDE is in the Plamsa-Pulseaudio config screen, which you surely won't have
[00:36] <noahmg123> Aniar thxc for trying to help anyway.
[00:49] <billah> heelo
[00:49] <daftykins> hi
[00:50] <roger_> hey all
[00:58] <Freeder> Hi, a RAID is throwing input/output errors when trying to access files (recently had to recover the data from a very bad place). syslog is full of errors such as: EXT4-fs error (device md127): ext4_iget:4059: inode #189991997: comm ls: bad extra_isize (37151 != 256)
[00:59] <Geo> I'm not interested in trying to recover that data so much, as get the drives back into a working state from here on out- what am I scanning for, or how?
[00:59] <RonWhoCares> I posted my question @ http://stackoverflow.com/q/32705576/3123313
[01:00] <Gramszu> Hi, I've just installed calibre on Gnome Ubuntu 15.04 - but it is impossible to add any book to collection.
[01:00] <Gramszu> Program feedback with:
[01:00] <Gramszu> Hi, I've just installed calibre on Gnome Ubuntu 15.04 - but it is impossible to add any book to collection.
[01:01] <daftykins> freezer_: backup and nuke it from orbit? checked SMART across all member disks?
[01:01] <Gramszu> calibre, version 2.20.0
[01:01] <Gramszu> BŁĄD: Nie można dodać książek: Nie udało się dodać niektórych książek, kliknij "Pokaż szczegóły", aby uzyskać więcej informacji.
[01:01] <Gramszu> Worker process crashed while executing job
[01:01] <Gramszu> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01:01] <Gramszu>   File "/usr/lib/calibre/calibre/utils/ipc/pool.py", line 103, in recv
[01:01] <Gramszu>     result = cPickle.loads(eintr_retry_call(self.conn.recv_bytes))
[01:07] <Gerowen> Anybody know whether or not it's possible to enable protected content options in Google Chrome on Ubuntu so I can watch Hulu?  They've changed something so it no longer functions properly without HAL, which I can't seem to find a copy of on packages.ubuntu.com
[01:11] <Aniar> #whenpeopleleaveafteronly15minutes
[01:15] <arasic> I am having issues with perl on Ubuntu, which is 14.04.3 LTS
[01:15] <arasic> Perl API version v5.14.0 of Socket does not match v5.18.0 at /usr/share/perl/5.18/XSLoader.pm line 92.
[01:15] <hamechi> Hi, someone could help me?
[01:16] <hamechi> I'm having some problems to switch from Ivy bridge graphics to NVIDIA 640m LE
[01:17] <dw1> if i'm on an openvpn VPN over network-manager and i ftp to my server's external IP is it encrypted over the tVPN tunnel?
[01:17] <soulisson> Hello, i'm trying to setup a loop device from a hard drive image, i'm using losetup -P, but partition are not created
[01:18] <hamechi> I've tried every driver on proprietary, 340, 346 an 304. The one that does not show the "change to low-graphics mode" error is the 304 driver
[01:18] <hamechi> But if I use prime to switch the graphic card
[01:18] <hamechi> I receive "  Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA GPU at PCI:1:0:0. "
[01:18] <Aniar> dw1: no
[01:19] <dw1> k.. ill map to tunnel IPs
[01:19] <hamechi> sorry about some mistakes on grammar.
[01:19] <Aniar> dw1: check your "ip route" or "route -n" statement to see which networks go over the VPN (probably tun0) connection.  those are the only ocnnectionstthat'll be encrypted
[01:20] <Aniar> dw1: if you have a VERY complicated setup, "most specific route wins"
[01:20] <Aniar> that is, if "everything" goes to tun0 device, you'll see there's a specific route to the VPN concentrator.  any traffic to that device does NOT go over the VPN (which is obvs neccesar, so that the VPN traffic doesn't try to go through itself into a black hole)
[01:21] <Aniar> hamechi: you probably have 3 options, and have to choose 1
[01:21] <Aniar> hamechi: 1) switch your bios primary graphics card (which you need to check *REGARDLESS*)
[01:22] <Aniar> hamechi: 2) use vgaswitcheroo (ugly, but older and likely more bugtested)
[01:22] <hamechi> there is no option on bios for that
[01:22] <Aniar> hamechi: 3) bumblebee/primus/optimus, which launch a *program* in the NVIDIA card, not hte full X window
[01:22] <Aniar> hamechi: "integrated" or "DISCRETE" are normally the bios options on a laptop
[01:23] <hamechi> yeah, but there's no such option on my bios
[01:23] <hamechi> do you want my lspci?
[01:23] <Aniar> hamechi: then you either have a desktop with 2 different cards, and need to plug in monitors accordingly and set your bios to the right graphics output (GPU/PCI1/0/etc), or you don't have the config you think you have?
[01:25] <hamechi> I have a notebook...
[01:26] <hamechi> I didn't understand your last phrase, Aniar.
[01:26] <Aniar> hamechi: does "lspci |egrep -i '(vga|video)'" give you 2 lines?
[01:26] <hamechi> yuo
[01:26] <hamechi> yup
[01:26] <Aniar> and one says "Intel" and the other says "Nvidia" ?
[01:26] <hamechi> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[01:26] <hamechi> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 640M LE] (rev a1)
[01:27] <soulisson> anyone?
[01:27] <dw1> Aniar: but if the server i'm connecting to is the same as the VPN... it's encrypted
[01:27] <Aniar> hamechi: you probably want bumblebee.  but in any case, you have *3* options, and have to choose which of those 3 you want
[01:28] <Aniar> dw1: yes, but not.  it's the same CPU, but networking cares about IP addresses
[01:28] <dw1> the VPN host will simply connect to itself, so nothing to snoop
[01:28] <dw1> except inernally
[01:29] <dw1> t
[01:29] <hamechi> the only driver that not shows the black screen error of "change to low graphics mode" is 304.125
[01:29] <dw1> so i can simply ftp to my sites domain and it's locally secure because i'm using that server as vpn
[01:30] <dw1> k :)
[01:30] <Giordano> Hey guys, what is the less buggy, or the most stable desktop environment?
[01:30] <Aniar> hamechi: you haven't answered how you're trying to *get* graphics. you're talking about a specific error once you get to some undetermined point.
[01:31] <robjung> hello
[01:31] <Aniar> Giordano: windows? do you mean "most tested Ubuntu desktop"?  go with the actual named "ubuntu"
[01:31] <hamechi> Aniar, what is the 3 options that I have to choose?
[01:31] <Giordano> Aniar: So, Unity?
[01:31] <Aniar> dw1: if you're trying to do server-to-server VPN, which I think you're describing, just to encrypt a single type of traffic, there is a better option: use a secure encrypted protocol
[01:32] <Aniar> Giordano: whatever the Ubuntu default is.
[01:32] <Aniar> Giordano: ubuntu is a massive community which I barely grasph the scope of.  I'm a KDE user, and love it, but I download the "kubuntu" dvd and install that. so I don't get the same install experience that you do.  some things are the same, but some things are subtlelly different
[01:32] <Aniar> Giordano: if you want the "most tested, most used" accept the defaults.
[01:33] <Aniar> Giordano: that doesn't mean the other options are bad. They're just "other options"
[01:33] <Aniar> hamechi: 1) switch your bios primary graphics card (which you need to check *REGARDLESS*)
[01:34] <Aniar> dw1: yes, but not.  it's the same CPU, but networking cares about IP addresses
[01:34] <bjrohan> Hello all. I just purchased an HP 15" notebook with WIN 10, that I installed Ubuntu on. The wifi reception is very weak, in fact it only picks up my own router, and only if it is within 10 ft of it. It will connect, but I have no data transfer (can't even ping local computers). The chip is a rtl8723be. Would appreciate any help
[01:34] <Aniar> hamechi: 2) use vgaswitcheroo (ugly, but older and likely more bugtested)
[01:34] <Giordano> Aniar: that makes sense, thank you
[01:34] <Aniar> hamechi: 3) bumblebee/primus/optimus, which launch a *program* in the NVIDIA card, not hte full X window
[01:34] <hamechi> I want the second option
[01:35] <Aniar> hamechi: now that you have chekced your bios, you can install either "vgaswitcheroo" *OR* "bumblebee" and follow the excellent ubuntu wiki articles on either subject
[01:35] <hamechi> I had problems with bumblebee
[01:36] <Aniar> bjrohan: the simple answer is to check your wifi transmit power, which is probably 3 or 5 for power savings.
[01:37] <bjrohan> Aniar: transmit power on the computer? Why wouldn't it pick up all of my neighbors wifi signals that my other laptop can?
[01:37] <ASonOfGod1> is there an OpenOffice Channel on this network?
[01:37] <Guest86749> Quickly, what can I do to lock the CPU into low power mode?
[01:38] <kostkon> !alis | ASonOfGod1
[01:39] <Aniar> bjrohan: because all wireless communication is a bidirectional system
[01:39] <ASonOfGod1> Thank you, very much, kostkon!
[01:40] <kostkon> ASonOfGod1, np
[01:41] <Aniar> ok, now, why is /usr/sbin/bluetoothd getting set non-executable... /me grumbles
[01:57] <Guest86749> Quickly, what can I do to lock the CPU into low power mode?
[01:58] <Geo> unplug the computer
[01:58] <AvatarA> Quickly, to the bat mobile!
[01:59] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> so, i have a big issue
[01:59] <Geo> oh come on, mine was hillarious
[01:59] <Aniar> Guest86749: sudo cpufreq-set -g powersave
[02:00] <Aniar> Geo: less hillarios, more 100% precise
[02:00] <Aniar> <-- apparently can't spel
[02:00] <Geo> :)
[02:00] <Aniar> Geo: know why my bluetooth isn't +x on boot?
[02:01] <Geo> heh, if you're looking at me for any sort of actual knowledge, you're in trouble, sorry
[02:01] <Guest86749> Aniar is that persistent on reboot?
[02:01] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> initramfs got corrupted
[02:01] <AvatarA> what do you mean +x on boot?
[02:01] <Aniar> Guest86749: it "fixes" itself on reboot, yes
[02:01] <Aniar> AvatarA: boot my system, bluetooth doesn't work. "sudo chmod +x /usr/sbin/bluetoothd; sudo systemctl restart bluetooth" and things work.
[02:01] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> initramfs got corrupted, so i booted on livecd and used testdisk and now the partition is 2mb instead of 750gb
[02:02] <Aniar> but when I reboot, "ls -l /usr/sbin/bluetoothd" shows 644
[02:02] <Aniar> https://twitter.com/docsmooth/status/645610926994010112
[02:02] <Aniar> dezzzzzzzzzzz: maybe? except /usr/sbin/bluetoothd isn't a kernel module, and 2 rebulds of kernel, and the stock kernel, show the same symptoms
[02:02] <AvatarA> holyyyyyshit dezzzzzzzzzzz no testdisk was needed for initramfs
[02:03] <Aniar> shit.
[02:03] <Aniar> I've just screwed up my profile. :(
[02:03] <AvatarA> but now if you did the boo-boo you might actually need it :]
[02:03] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> Aniar: mine is a different issue
[02:03] <bjrohan> Aniar: The power listed from iwconfig is Tx-power=20 dBm and Signal level is 82 dBm
[02:03] <Aniar> dezzzzzzzzzzz: ahh, sorry
[02:04] <Aniar> bjrohan: I don't know what those correspond to. But the PM tools will set a value of 0 to 5.
[02:04] <Aniar> 5 being the most power saving, 0 being the strongest signal
[02:04] <jwhwv> Hey, I'm setting up a static ip address on a plugin usb nic.  I can see how to set the add on the device with ip, but I can't find the command to put the netmask on there
[02:04] <Aniar> bjrohan: so if your card isn't responding to the APs, so that they can hear you, you can't join them.
[02:04] <Guest86749> Aniar: Is it the lowest setting or is that equiv. to on demand?
[02:05] <bjrohan> Aniar: what PM tools?
[02:05] <Aniar> jwhwv: what command are you using to set the add? normally adding the netmask class ('/23') is fine
[02:05] <Aniar> bjrohan: whatever power management tools you have in place.
[02:05] <Aniar> FYI to all who suddenly find me useful (this is weird to me): my battery dies in 20 minutes
[02:05] <jwhwv> Aniar: I awas using ip addr add, but i was trying to add ddn style netmask at the end instead of the slash notation.  Thanks, man.
[02:06] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> can somebody help me?
[02:06] <bjrohan> Gotcha
[02:06] <Aniar> incredible dude at the bar is going to *look for an outlet for me*
[02:07] <Aniar> that means I can help here, AND get more drunk.  /me is SO F*ING HAPPY
[02:09] <AvatarA> dezzzzzzzzzzz, pastebin a "fdisk -l" for starters
[02:11] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> pastebin.com/v1bgRgH5
[02:13] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> im running a kali linux livecd because i couldnt run any ubuntu
[02:13] <Aniar> devnill_: refresh me, what's the problem?
[02:13] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> wouldnt load
[02:13] <Aniar> dezzzzzzzzzzz: err refresh, what'sthe roblem?
[02:13] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> initramfs got corrupted
[02:13] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> i used testdisk
[02:14] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> now the partition that was supposed to be 700+gb is 2mb
[02:14] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> (sda5)
[02:14] <AvatarA> geez, that looks ugly
[02:14] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> yea
[02:14] <Aniar> dezzzzzzzzzzz: dezzzzzzzzzzz the short ansewr is: "you need the mkinitcpio command and the correct flags for paths
[02:15] <AvatarA> have any idea how you resized those partitions?
[02:15] <Aniar> dezzzzzzzzzzz: I don't have time to help you figure them out,because I ca'nt tell my battery to wait for me to come to bed
[02:15] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> resizing them is bad juju
[02:15] <Aniar> dezzzzzzzzzzz: but from the livecd, I *know* you can rebuild the initramfs from that tool
[02:15] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> mkinitcpio?
[02:16] <Aniar> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio sadly archlinux has the best wiki for "weird shit you should never have to run"
[02:16] <Aniar> dezzzzzzzzzzz: ^^
[02:16] <AvatarA> there is no mkinitcpio in ubuntu
[02:16] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> aniar, will it fix my problem with testdisk as well?
[02:17] <AvatarA> you should have mounted your rooted partition, chrooted into it, correct the config problem or whatever you had and then 'update-initramfs'
[02:17] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> i didnt know it was corrupted
[02:17] <dezzzzzzzzzzz> until i rebooted
[02:18] <jwhwv> aniar When I set my address via ip addr add 10.0.0.3/24 dev eth2 - i see it there temporarily, however i cannot ping anything on the subnet, and when i check the addr again its not there anymore
[02:18] <Aniar> dezzzzzzzzzzz: mkinitramfs
[02:19] <Aniar> jwhwv: are you sure you don't have a conflict with that IP?  you have 252 addresses (likely) to choose from in that network. so try another.
[02:19] <Aniar> ok, power out. good luck all, sorry for the abrupt leaving
[02:19] <Aniar> also: wtf /usr/sbin/bluetoothd??  :(
[02:20] <jwhwv> Aniar: its nothing but my pc and a switch i just setup with a different address.  Why would the address not show up in ip addr after being sent?  Is there a daemon conflicting maybe?
[02:25] <jwhwv> Aniar: I configured it via the /etc/network/interfaces config file, and now it works.  I think whatever daemon uses that was overwriting whatever was in there manually or something.  Thanks for the hand tonight dude take care
[02:27] <Aniar> jwhwv woo! grays
[02:27] <Aniar> gtatz
[02:27] <Aniar> and NetworkManager manages whatever inisn't in interfaces jwhwv
[02:30] <Guest56814> Can startx be run over a putty client?
[02:31] <jwhwv> exit
[02:49] <drupalpro_> Anyone have any experience with getting xhprof to work on DrupalPro?
[02:59] <jrmiah> has anyone here gotta the exact ubuntu desktop running in vncserver?
[02:59] <jrmiah> can get a 'sorta' one going via metacity et al but not the same
[03:25] <Soulboy> Hi guys I'm a newbie to linux, is there a reason why ubuntu feels slightly more sluggish than windows 10 when I'm browsing on firefox?
[03:26] <cfhowlett> plugins??
[03:27] <OerHeks> videodriver maybe
[03:27] <goddard> how can i get netbeans working ?
[03:27] <Soulboy> I've got 1 plugin on firefox haha adblock, yeah it coulde be the video driver
[03:27] <cfhowlett> !netbeans | Soulboy
[03:27] <rww> what
[03:28] <cfhowlett> Soulboy, sorry, ignore that.  adblock?  cuz my ADB often hangs on social media here in China.
[03:28] <Soulboy> Yeah its causing lag on fb for me
[03:28] <Soulboy> And some other sites
[03:29] <Soulboy> But it doesn't do any of that on windows for me so I found it odd
[03:29] <cfhowlett> Soulboy, well, you could disable ADB if present OR completely block those sites
[03:29] <OerHeks> netbeans got a great wiki https://netbeans.org/community/releases/80/install.html
[03:29] <Soulboy> Oh btw is it possible for the desktop environment to cause lag too?
[03:29] <goddard> OerHeks: i think it is an issue with ubuntu though
[03:30] <Soulboy> I'm using kde 5 plasma
[03:30] <cfhowlett> Soulboy, absolutely.  kde is heavier and more demanding than, say, lxde
[03:30] <cfhowlett> Soulboy, test it.  install a light alternative.
[03:30] <Soulboy> Ahh will do
[03:30] <cfhowlett> sudo apt install lxde xfce4               then logout/choose alternate/login
[03:31] <Soulboy> I've only used things like Unity,gnome and kde so far haha so that would probably explainwhy
[03:31] <Soulboy> Thanks, cfhowlett I'll test it out and let you know how it goes! ^^
[03:31] <cfhowlett> Soulboy, happy2help!
[03:31] <OerHeks> goddard, then what guide did you follow, what goes wrong?
[03:32] <goddard> OerHeks: no guide.. just trying to work out issues with installing via apt-get
[03:32] <goddard> using wily werewolf
[03:32] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | goddard
[03:33] <OerHeks> goddard, oh, too early for me, 15.10
[03:35] <OerHeks> seems pretty standard http://tutorialforlinux.com/2015/08/29/how-to-install-netbeans-8-x-all-on-ubuntu-15-10-wily-32-64bit-linuxgnu-easy-visual-guide/
[03:41] <Soulboy> Okay so I'm using lxde now and it's barely made any difference
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Soulboy, so it's not the DE then.  test a different browser; chrome or chromium
[03:44] <Soulboy> okau
[03:44] <Soulboy> okay*
[03:48] <santosh> How to rename multiple files? Like I have 100 files, starting from 1.xml 2.xml to 100.xml. I want to rename them to file1.xml and so
[03:49] <daftykins> chat to your pals in #bash
[03:49] <DalekSec> santosh: Use 'rename'
[03:53] <Soulboy> Chromium feels a lot faster than firefox
[03:54] <Soulboy> I'm using the intel graphics installer to install any drivers I might be missing as well lol maybe that'll help speed htings up
[03:55] <somsip> santosh: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/227662/how-to-rename-multiple-files-with-find-using
[04:05] <cencalok> hy alll
[04:07] <wvirxjf> Join #Ubuntu
[04:09] <wvirxjf> Can someone give me a command to get a list of all the running processes separated by spaces?
[04:13] <somsip> wvirxjf: ps a | awk '{print $5}' | tr '\n' ' '
[04:14] <devnill_> I'd like to run a script whenever wifi connects. I've added it to /etc/network/if-up.d/ and made the owner root with the permissions 755 but its not running. Is there anything else I need to do?
[04:14] <devnill_> (ubuntu 14.04)
[04:16] <wvirxjf> Ah, ok
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:08] <yigal> still evening for me, but good to you anyways my friend
[05:12] <Linux_Noob> Uhhh... Hello?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Linux_Noob: can we help you?
[05:15] <Linux_Noob> Oh, Hi! Yeah, I'm having a problem with installing Ubuntu 14.04 on my acer e-15 laptop. It installed fine, but the Wi-Fi won't turn on...
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Linux_Noob: wifi chipset please?
[05:15] <Linux_Noob> Uhhh? What?
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Linux_Noob: have you installed ubuntu with cable internet enabled and updates enabled during setup?
[05:17] <Linux_Noob> No. Installed over wifi (it was working during installation) with updates enabled
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Linux_Noob: ok, pastebin the output here of : sudo lshw -C network please
[05:17] <Linux_Noob> Now it says 'Wi-Fi is disabled by hardware switch'
[05:19] <yigal> Linux_Noob: you got a lapi ( laptop ) ?
[05:19] <Linux_Noob> Yup
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Linux_Noob: did you enable wifi switch?
[05:20] <Linux_Noob> I click on it, and 'enable networking' in checked, but everything else is greyed out
[05:20] <leo9x> !channel
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> Linux_Noob: pastebin the output of what i asked please
[05:22] <Linux_Noob> I don't know what that means lotuspsychje. What does pastebin mean?
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> !paste | Linux_Noob
[05:23] <anony> I'm attempting to install Oracle's JVM - So I'm first checking if I have Java in my system. This is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12519182/ (I guess I'm okay to proceed with JRE installation?)
[05:24] <Linux_Noob> Erm...  My laptop won't connect to the Internet...  I can run the command, but I can't paste it anywhere.
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !java | Anonaly
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Linux_Noob: put the cable in your laptop mate
[05:25] <Linux_Noob> Can't. In a hotel right now.
[05:25] <anony> jdk-8u60-linux-x64.tar.gz - I guess this is it... thank you.
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Linux_Noob: then tell me the name of your wifi chipset here manually + driver=
[05:27] <Linux_Noob> How do I find that info?
[05:27] <old1> Hiya!! can anyone point me to a good tf2 server.cfg file
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> Linux_Noob: open a terminal and type: sudo lshw -C network
[05:28] <old1> im also wondering if anyone has had issues wityh bots staying in place
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> old1: what are you trying to do mate
[05:28] <anony> Actually, before I do something silly... I've downloaded minecraft in order to test it out. Can I run it as is? (on a fairly fresh installation of 14.04?)
[05:28] <eosen> hello
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> anony: run what?
[05:29] <old1> find a good url or pastebin for a good working server.cfg file for tf2
[05:29] <anony> lotuspsychje, Minecraft.jar
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> anony: try the #minecraft channel maybe
[05:30] <Linux_Noob> K, done... It's a QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Adapter. Driver version: ath9k 3.19
[05:30] <anony> lotuspsychje, gotcha-will check it out.
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | Linux_Noob
[05:34] <anony> !minecraft | anony
[05:36] <anony> I'm following this guide: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[05:38] <anony> But I'm afraid If I do "sudo apt-get purge openjdk-\" bad things will happen later
[05:42] <yigal> well anony quit and apparently doesn't know about alternatives, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:42] <yigal> but well he's gone
[05:43] <yigal> anony and anyone else who needs Oracle Java don't delete the one installed, use alternatives to set the needed version.
[05:52] <old1> has anyone had a dedicated tf2 server and had the bots stick on ubuntu
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> old1: https://www.linode.com/docs/applications/game-servers/team-fortress2-on-debian-and-ubuntu
[06:08] <night_crawler> test
[06:11] <nuf0xx> night_crawler: test complete...
[06:15] <xpilot> is it ok to apt-get remove libgl1-mesa-dri?
[06:16] <long> hi
[06:18] <long> Hello~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[06:23] <long> hi
[06:24] <long> ...
[06:26] <long> hi
[06:29] <kikish> hello guys
[06:29] <kikish> hello guys any one working on django oscar ?
[06:31] <xpilot> so, looks like my screen resolution is stuck at 640x480 after I reinstalled a broken libgl1-mesa-dri
[06:31] <xpilot> any ideas?
[06:56] <yosukesan> Does any one can help me ?
[06:57] <long> Hello~~
[06:59] <long> ssssss
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> long: can we help you?
[07:00] <long> Thank you
[07:00] <yosukesan> lotuspsychje. I need a help
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> yosukesan: you can ask your question in the channel
[07:01] <yosukesan> I'm trying to make my laptop a temporary router
[07:02] <yosukesan> I followed this instruction https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[07:02] <yosukesan> but still unable to managed. I
[07:03] <yosukesan> I've got a mobile wifi and a rasbian machine.
[07:03] <yosukesan> and I want use my laptop as a router between them.
[07:03] <yosukesan> Does anyone know how to do it ?
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> yosukesan: maybe this can help? http://www.yourownlinux.com/2013/07/how-to-configure-ubuntu-as-router.html
[07:04] <yosukesan> I only manged throught ping from rasbian to the router.
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> yosukesan: the #ubuntu-server guys might also know tricks
[07:05] <yosukesan> cheers <lotuspsychje>
[07:05] <yosukesan> I checked your suggested website a few weeks ago.
[07:06] <yosukesan> OK I'll try server guys.
[07:06] <yosukesan> Thanks.
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> yosukesan: the ##networking guys might also know other linux tricks also, openwrt,..
[07:06] <yosukesan> I've got one more thing to ask.
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> sure
[07:07] <yosukesan> OK server an network guys.
[07:07] <yosukesan> I built realtek 8812au driver module on arm machine.
[07:08] <yosukesan> but when I inserted module it's says "ERROR: could not insert '8812au': Exec format error".
[07:09] <xpilot> so it appears that the xorg-edgers ppa is no longer necessary for nvidia drivers?
[07:09] <xpilot> that is pretty nice
[07:09] <yosukesan> I want to know the message meant there is something wrong with module build ?
[07:10] <yosukesan> or Do I need to teak the driver's Makefile ?
[07:11] <yosukesan> I have successfully made the module on x86_64 ubuntu machine.
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> yosukesan: https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux/issues/23
[07:12] <yosukesan> When I checked the Makefile, which looks manually written, there's lots configuration for differet archs.
 Thanks again. This looks the answer.
[07:15] <r3czn1k> hi
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> yosukesan: good luck!
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> r3czn1k: welcome, what can we do for you?
[07:16] <r3czn1k> how can I do something like that mv {file1,file2}.sh /tmp/ via ssh?
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> r3czn1k: try the #openssh channel mate
[07:16] <r3czn1k> ok thanks
[07:19] <xpilot> gah the i386 versions of the mesa packages are still broken, as revealed when trying to install steam
[07:20] <FckYoNiggativity> HOE FUCK
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> xpilot: wich card, driver and ubuntu version do you have?
[07:20] <FckYoNiggativity> HOE FUCK
[07:20] <FckYoNiggativity> HOE FUCK
[07:20] <FckYoNiggativity> HOE FUCK
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> !ops | FckYoNiggativity
[07:20] <shrilaxmi> Does anyone tell me how to set a specific color for the text I send on IRC?
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> shrilaxmi: wich client are you on?
[07:21] <popey> shrilaxmi: you can do that, but nobody wants you to do that :)
[07:21] <shrilaxmi> hexchat
[07:21] <MonkeyDust> shrilaxmi  guess that depends on the client you're using
[07:22] <Myrtti> shrilaxmi: some channels in freenode and possibly in other networks actively forbid it.
[07:22] <MonkeyDust> shrilaxmi  play with colors, but make sure we don't see them
[07:22] <shrilaxmi> No just to identify quickly from the vast collection of texts that which messages are sent by me in a particular channel
[07:22] <shrilaxmi> how to set ?
[07:23] <Myrtti> shrilaxmi: you can set your own highlight colours without having to send colours yourself
[07:23] <Myrtti> (I've no idea how on Hexchat, though)
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> shrilaxmi: you can set hexchat colors as you like in options
[07:23] <shrilaxmi> yes
[07:24] <shrilaxmi> but the texts I send appear in black only
[07:24] <shrilaxmi> how to change that
[07:24] <shrilaxmi> if someone addresses me, it appears in red because I chose red for highlight messages
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> shrilaxmi: set the background color to dark, and colors for text
[07:24] <shrilaxmi> yes
[07:25] <shrilaxmi> i need to specify a particular color for my messages alone
[07:26] <shrilaxmi> understand?
[07:26] <MonkeyDust> need or want?
[07:26] <shrilaxmi> want to
[07:26] <Tm_T> shrilaxmi: how they appear in your irc client?
[07:27] <Tm_T> it depends on your client, many allows setting your own text in different colour without affecting your actual output
[07:27] <shrilaxmi> ok fine
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> shrilaxmi: change color number 14 and 30 to your wanted color
[07:31] <scorpion01> hello everyone
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> scorpion01: welcome, what can we do for you mate?
[07:33] <moe__> Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sr0 .. help on how to fix this?
[07:34] <scorpion01> lotuspsychje, i m taking pic using intent : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12519569/  like this,, can i name it own my own?
[07:34] <scorpion01> whoops wrong chennel
[07:35] <vlad__> it seems that I've installed libcudart6.5, but I don't even have a /usr/local/cuda
[07:35] <moebuntu> Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sr0 anyone
[07:36] <scorpion01> lotuspsychje, sorry i mistakenly posted a question in this channel.
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> scorpion01: no sweat
[07:37] <vlad__> everything is installed from the main ubuntu repos (no ppas or .deb downloads)
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> vlad__: whats your endgoal mate?
[07:39] <vlad__> I'd like to use -lcudart
[07:40] <YamakasY> anyone running Ubuntu on an imac with 8800GS card ?
[07:41] <vlad__> "locate cudart" doesn't give me any .so files
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> YamakasY: better ask your specific issue in the channel mate
[07:42] <vlad__> and my old cuda application crashed with "CUDA Exception: unknown error"
[07:42] <YamakasY> lotuspsychje: there are too many issues, if someone sees 8800gs and he runs it he knows the issue already ;)
[07:52] <qq[IrcCity]> hello.  how should I report “Kernel panic” in Linux 4.3 rc2 Ubuntu?
[07:53] <MonkeyDust> YamakasY  one issue at the time, but keep it in one line
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> qq[IrcCity]: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[07:59] <qq[IrcCity]> lotuspsychje, do you ask about Ubuntu proper?   14.10, but all situation is described in http://askubuntu.com/questions/674426/installing-linux-4-3-on-existing-ubuntu-release
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> qq[IrcCity]: 14.10 is eol
[08:00] <vlad__> well I figured it out: the nvidia libs are in a different location (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/) and locate couldn't find them because the db was out of date
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> !yay | vlad__
[08:01] <vlad__> props to apt-file for telling me where to look!
[08:02] <qq[IrcCity]> lotuspsychje: I do not think reporting kernel crashes is relevant to OS version installed.   I only ask here because the kernel is from kernel.ubuntu.com.
[08:02] <shrilaxmi> could anyone tel me how to personalize the color for the texts only I send
[08:02] <shrilaxmi> in hexchat
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> qq[IrcCity]: if your version is eol, we cant support this mate
[08:02] <shrilaxmi> the text appears in the foreground color I've chosen in hexchat
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> shrilaxmi: i already told you change hexchat color number 14 and 30 to your wanted color
[08:05] <qq[IrcCity]> lotuspsychje: suppose I lied you my version is 15.04.   what would you reply?
[08:05] <shrilaxmi> lotuspsychje: i changed as u said
[08:05] <vlad__> what is the correct way to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[08:05] <shrilaxmi> lotuspsychje: but no effect it still appears in black which is the foreground coor
[08:05] <shrilaxmi> lotuspsychje: but no effect it still appears in black which is the foreground color
[08:06] <hypermist> huebuntu ;D
[08:06]  * hypermist tries to act funny
[08:07] <Aleksa> Hello! I've messed something up with xkb and now I cannot type "č ć š đ ž" in many fields (gedit, xchat, terminal...). It works in Firefox only
[08:08] <Aleksa> How do I reset it back to normal?
[08:08] <shrilaxmi> lotuspsychje: should I restart the hexchat after changing the color?
[08:12] <Fudge> hi looking for ideas to get usb devices to detect and work on trusty, the devies themself are fine but on this particular machine once I am in the OS I get no usb support. I actually installed using usb
[08:13] <qq[IrcCity]> Aleksa: which keyboard layout is indicated?
[08:14] <Aleksa> Serbian (Latin)
[08:14] <qq[IrcCity]> Aleksa: but these keys do not produce anything?
[08:14] <Aleksa> qq[IrcCity], I use Serbian (Latin) and Serbian ("Serbian" refers to cyrilic layout)
[08:14] <Aleksa> qq[IrcCity], unfortunately not
[08:14] <Aleksa> they used to
[08:15] <Aleksa> until I messed something up
[08:15] <qq[IrcCity]> Aleksa: what about Cyrillic layout?   does it work?
[08:15] <Aleksa> not at all
[08:16] <qq[IrcCity]> no input?
[08:16] <Aleksa> It types question marks in terminal
[08:16] <Aleksa> but in gedit or hexchat types nothing
[08:16] <Aleksa> it works in firefox only, I don't know how
[08:16] <qq[IrcCity]> Aleksa: are you sure your terminals use UTF-8?
[08:17] <Aleksa> I was messing with locale also, I remember
[08:17] <Aleksa> how do I check it?
[08:18] <qq[IrcCity]> Aleksa, there are two thing about locale: echo $LANG shows applications’ idea about that, and also in some terminal emulators actual encoding is controlled from menu.
[08:19] <Aleksa> qq[IrcCity], everything worked well until I started messing with /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/sr and locale :(
[08:19] <Aleksa> I will give it a restart now. I'll be back in 1 minute.
[08:22] <Aleksa> qq[IrcCity], I need to change everything back to UTF8. How to achieve that?
[08:26] <qq[IrcCity]> Aleksa, I do not know Ubuntu enough to answer.   one can start applications with LANG=sr_RS.utf8 to specify locale, but it would not be Ubuntu way.
[08:27] <Aleksa> aleksa@N61PB-M2S:~$ locale
[08:27] <Aleksa> LANG=sr_RS.UTF-8@latin
[08:27] <Aleksa> it's already set as default
[08:27] <qq[IrcCity]> Aleksa, and this produces question marks?
[08:27] <Aleksa> yet the problem is still here
[08:27] <Aleksa> yes
[08:28] <Aleksa> well, question marks in terminal only
[08:28] <qq[IrcCity]> Aleksa, which namely terminal?   can you start gnome-terminal? (where you can see in the menu which charset is in use)
[08:29] <Aleksa> xfce4-terminal
[08:29] <Aleksa> question marks in terminal, in gedit and hexchat nothing and in Firefox normal
[08:30] <Aleksa> gnome-terminal not installed
[08:30] <Aleksa> terminal is fixed for now
[08:30] <Aleksa> displays all characters
[08:30] <Aleksa> other programs however not
[08:30] <THC> probably your locale is not generated proerly
[08:31] <Aleksa> I was messing with it, I told you
[08:31] <Aleksa> how to regenerate it?
[08:31] <THC> Aleksa, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale go through this real quick
[08:31] <qq[IrcCity]> THC, how generation of locale is relevant to question marks?
[08:31] <THC> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale#A.28Re-.29Generating_locales
[08:31] <THC> If locale is wrong, and encoding of charaset is wrong ,you will see boxes or ?
[08:32] <THC> first you make sure your locale is correct, then you make sure your encoding is correct, and lastly you make sure that the font you are using supports those glyphs
[08:32] <THC> 3 steps of troubleshooting of ? or boxes
[08:32] <THC> I have been away from linux for 5 years, maybe I am wrong.
[08:33] <Aleksa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12519788/
[08:35] <Aleksa> I must restart
[08:36] <Aleksa> problem is still there: qq[IrcCity] , THC
[08:36] <Aleksa> even after regenerating locale
[08:41] <limbera> i wasn't really sure where to go to ask about this, but i figured #ubuntu was the best bet (if not to at least be redirected where i need to go!)
[08:42] <limbera> i have an ed25519 key that has a passohrase
[08:42] <limbera> whenever i ssh it asks me for the passphrase
[08:42] <limbera> in the past thought it's only asked once (the first time)
[08:42] <limbera> how do i get it to stop asking me
[08:45] <qq[IrcCity]> Aleksa, possibly you screwed the keyboard layout up.   what did you do to it?
[08:50] <qq[IrcCity]> Aleksa, is terminal fixed?
[08:50] <Fudge> update on my usb devices not being detected     MaxPower                0mA
[08:55] <who_me> hi. where's a good place to ask why building kernel packages using the patches from the mainline "ppa" fails with the latest 4.1.8 kernel?
[08:56] <ball0> hello. I have a problem. I upgraded my distro (different volume) and need a .deb from the old one. I do not have the original .deb file
[08:56] <ball0> (I don't know what the original contributor did to the source to get it to configure/compile, and the old repo was taken offline)
[08:58] <ball0> I read somewhere one can make the .deb using some kind of dpkg-pack but I'd need to install it...
[08:58] <ball0> oh here, dpkg-repack. Maybe I'll have to compile that
[09:13] <bradley> hello
[09:14] <THC> http://i.imgur.com/0EQsjDM.png hey p2v worked, now I Can install inux and then use my vm of windows anywhere
[09:15] <Usermade> hello
[09:26] <qq[IrcCity]> who_me, some guys make binaries for Ubuntu, that are available at kernel.ubuntu.org.   they should know about problems with Ubuntu patches, so try to reach them.
[09:37] <shooter2kill> hey all i was just wonder is there a command or something i can use to send a msg to other computers on my network im running ubuntu and there running windows 7
[09:39] <vlad__> question: what is the right method of installing nvidia drivers/cuda on 15.04? nvidia recommends using their run file, but I see there are also packages in the ubuntu repositories
[09:43] <fizzlebert> hello
[09:47] <Fleet> vlad__: I would say it depends on the version number in the repositories
[09:47] <Fleet> sometimes those packages get out of date, which is why many companies recommend installing direct
[09:50] <sympto> hi my card reader isnt working, its a realtek RTS5111. this is journal output https://bpaste.net/raw/61f73b8d5851
[09:50] <vlad__> Fleet: nvidia also provides their own .deb file as an alternative
[09:50] <Danielss89> Hi, i'm having trouble withe locales on ubuntu 14.04. If i run "locale" i get "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory" and "locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory"
[09:51] <Danielss89> i tried purging and reinstalling locales
[09:51] <who_me> qq[IrcCity], how do I reach them? :)
[09:51] <Danielss89> i tried regenerating them
[09:51] <Danielss89> i've added LANGUAGE = "en_US.UTF-8"
[09:51] <Danielss89> LC_ALL = "en_US.UTF-8"
[09:51] <Danielss89> LC_CTYPE = "en_US.UTF-8" and LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
[09:51] <Danielss89> to /etc/environment
[09:51] <Danielss89> sorry, that was meant to be one line -.-
[09:52] <Fleet> vlad__: I'd compare the version number of that package with the one in the Ubuntu repositories and install the newer of the two
[09:52] <aji_> how to install app
[09:52] <qq[IrcCity]> Danielss89: LANG not LANGUAGE.
[09:52] <Danielss89> qq[IrcCity] i have both
[09:52] <who_me> qq[IrcCity], nvm, they are in ubuntu-kernel
[09:52] <k1l_> aji_: what app?
[09:53] <qq[IrcCity]> who_me, thanks.   now this channnel can be dropped.
[09:55] <angelus1969> hello, can I also ask questions about ubuntu mate here?
[09:55] <vlad__> Fleet: it looks like I have a conflict with the last time I installed cuda (on 14.04)
[09:56] <sympto> angelus1969, Rule #1: Don't ask to ask
[09:56] <vlad__> namely, dpkg -i fails with trying to overwrite '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/cuda.list', which is also in package cuda-repo-ubuntu1404 7.5-18
[10:01] <alexco12> [C[D[D[A[C[A//[B//
[10:07] <sympto> y r u tards too lazy to patch ubuntu kernal?
[10:08] <vikky> hi
[10:10] <przemytriel> how to chown all files in a directory and subdiretory's files except of folders?
[10:12]  * cloudy_nz wishes he was a master of gawk & sed, then he could actually answer questions
[10:17] <maxnet> hi
[10:38] <mikhael_k33hl> In Ubuntu,It is strongly recommended that your network-authenticated users have their uid in a different range (say, starting at 5000) than that of your local users. I have no idea how to set it up? anyone?
[10:39] <hwpplayer1> Do you work 7/24 for support ?
[10:41] <absklb> hi
[10:41] <absklb> is emacs buggy on ubuntu?
[10:42] <absklb> emacs 24?
[10:45] <hwpplayer1> what kind of bug ?
[10:45] <absklb> nvm. some wrong syntax in my .emacs
[10:46] <hwpplayer1> does your program runs well
[10:48] <absklb> now it will once i remove that error line
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: good afternoon mate
[11:05] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: afternoon
[11:06] <hwpplayer1> does ubuntu support channel runs 7/24
[11:06] <rustyraptor> what was the command to search for files in the reps again?
[11:06] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:06] <EriC^^> apt-cache search <package>
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> hwpplayer1: just keep in mind the world has timezones
[11:06] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: you mean the world isn't flat O.O
[11:06] <EriC^^> ?
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:06] <hwpplayer1> ok lotuspsychje
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: in lebanon the world is flat like a waffle
[11:07] <EriC^^> lol lots of potholes here, true :p
[11:08]  * lotuspsychje doesnt like hexchat lags
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !ping
[11:09] <cfhowlett> no lag ...
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: howdy mate :p
[11:09] <cfhowlett> yowza^2 lotuspsychje!
[11:09] <Trow> is there a channel for docker ?
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Trow
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> Trow: you can ask your issue here too if its ubuntu troubles
[11:12] <Trow> i m a newbie and it s a simple question..
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> Trow: shoot
[11:13] <cfhowlett> Trow, even newbies should know how to use alis to search
[11:13] <cfhowlett> :0
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> Trow: and yes, a very crowded #docker channel exists
[11:14] <Trow> we have a folder that contains our application and then we will say to docker to build a container from that folder. my question will docker copy the files to the container and then we will have two places having the same code ?
[11:16] <rustyraptor> lotuspsychje oh sorry i meant on the irc channel. I am looking for a specific library and i remember there being a bot here that does searches like that.
[11:16] <JH151> Hey guys, I have setup ubuntu to authenticate via a windows domain for access control purposes, but if a user logs into the machine with an expired password winbind will crash the server. Any ideas what could be causing this? Thanks :)
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> rustyraptor: you can search that with apt-cache also if you like
[11:17] <Nei> hi, I'm trying lxc OS container on ubuntu LTS and have some trouble with /proc/meminfo, it shows the host' meminfo
[11:17] <ProfMac>  /msg alis list #ubuntu*
[11:17] <Nei> according to google it should be some fuse mount that simulates the restricted memory, anyone has an idea where to look into this?
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | rustyraptor
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> JH151: your working with samba?
[11:19] <JH151> lotuspsychje: Yeah
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> JH151: maybe the #samba channel might help you?
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> ioria: good afternoon mate
[11:20] <JH151> lotuspsychje: Brilliant, thank you, I will check that one out. I was not sure if it may have been an issue with the samba version in the ubuntu repos, as I believe its serving 4.1.6. I'll check out that channel, thank you
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> JH151: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[11:21] <JH151> lotuspsychje: 14.04 LTS
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> !info samba
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> !info samba trusty
[11:21] <ioria> lotuspsychje, Good Afternoon to You  .... ^_^
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> JH151: should be good version
[11:22] <JH151> lotuspsychje: This is what samba -V gives: Version 4.1.6-Ubuntu
[11:22] <kame_> Hi
[11:22] <kame_> I am looking for a software
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> kame_: wich one
[11:23] <JH151> lotuspsychje: I'll check out the #samba channel as well to see what I can find out :) Thank you for your help
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> JH151: no sweat mate, if you cant solve come again and re-ask here
[11:23] <JH151> lotuspsychje: I will do
[11:24] <kame_> when I go to the upper right corner i want to use one programm, when I go to the middle left side i want to open an other programm/console window. Do you understand what I mean?
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> kame_: you need a start button with ubuntu programs right upper as indicator?
[11:25] <kame_> no
[11:25] <kame_> i go with the mouse to an area, and then I want to use a programm
[11:25] <kame_> the problem is that I have a small monitor and I use 10 programms at the same time
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> kame_: not sure if i follow you mate
[11:26] <kame_> :)
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> kame_: you mean a window tiler or so?
[11:26] <kame_> no
[11:26] <kame_> it is like a mouse event
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> kame_: explain a bit
[11:27] <kame_> wait
[11:27] <hwpplayer1> does anybody live in china ? My question is Ubuntu Kylin preinstalled computers ? Did you see them on market ?,
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> ioria, EriC^^ cfhowlett come to discuss i have a msg :p
[11:27] <cfhowlett> hwpplayer1, I'm in Beijing
[11:27] <cfhowlett> hwpplayer1, let's P
[11:27] <cfhowlett> P
[11:27] <ioria> kame_,   http://askubuntu.com/questions/493775/raise-window-on-mouse-up-event-instead-of-click-event-in-ubuntu
[11:27] <cfhowlett> PM   darn "m" is sticking
[11:28] <NeverWinter> Hello. I'm back with my problem(after I was send to hardware, then to linux, then to ubuntu): ubuntu in installation time try to set a higher resolution than my monitor can (1280 x 1024) and my monitor complain about this. I don't know what to do, I posted on forum too. What to do ?
[11:28] <hwpplayer1> cfhowlett : did you see ubuntu laptops Dell
[11:28] <cfhowlett> hwpplayer1, PM = private msg.
[11:30] <kame_> lotuspsychje: http://flockdraw.com/dhl8am
[11:30] <hateball> NeverWinter: Provide some specs of your computer, like GPU chipset and monitor model
[11:30] <kame_> mouse goes into the red area --> then console window from the back comes to the front
[11:30] <kame_> somebody destroyed my picture :)
[11:30] <NeverWinter> hateball, screen: https://www.pcliquidations.com/p11593-philips-190s-grade-c
[11:31] <NeverWinter> hateball, GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 970 OC WindForce 3X 4GB DDR5 256-bit
[11:31] <hateball> NeverWinter: are you using proprietary or noeuvau driver?
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> kame_: is what ioria say what you need?
[11:31] <k1l_> kame_: you mean "hot corners" but not with desktop commands but with starting programs?
[11:32] <lvleph> What package provide petsc?
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> !find petsc
[11:32] <hateball> NeverWinter: oh it sets the wrong resolution when you try to install?
[11:32] <NeverWinter> hateball, I do not use drivers.. is just ubuntu installation
[11:32] <NeverWinter> hateball, yes, right
[11:32] <hateball> !nomodeset | NeverWinter try adding this to boot option when installing
[11:32] <NeverWinter> hateball, my monitor really dont like it http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/16/13/35/99/20150910.jpg
[11:33] <NeverWinter> hateball, I already tryed nodemodeset
[11:33] <hateball> NeverWinter: Is this 15.04 ?
[11:33] <NeverWinter> hateball, is ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64
[11:33] <NeverWinter> hateball, first on page :D :))
[11:33] <ioria> !info libpetsc3.4.2
[11:34] <kame_> lotuspsychje: no
[11:34] <kame_> k1l_: yes
[11:34] <ioria> !info petsc-dev
[11:34] <lvleph> I have petsc installed, but it isn't clear which package installed it.
[11:34] <cfhowlett> NeverWinter, that's not a nomodeset issue, it's hardware.  your monitor says it can't display the resolution you requested.
[11:34] <ocean> lvleph: dpkg -S /path/to/file will show you
[11:35] <lvleph> nice
[11:35] <ioria> lvleph, dpkg -l | grep petsc
[11:35] <NeverWinter> cfhowlett, why ubuntu try a so high res ? isn't enough a 600 400 for installation ?
[11:35] <hateball> NeverWinter: I doubt 14.04 has noeuveau new enough to support 970. the proprietary doesnt either. there should be some way to go into a "safe graphics mode" tho
[11:36] <cfhowlett> ocean, whoa.  WHOA!  thanks, man!  That is one nice factoid!  I'd buy you a beer but all I can give is
[11:36] <cfhowlett> !cookie | ocean
[11:36] <NeverWinter> hateball: so what you are saying is to try ubuntu 15
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter: we have been tru this already, its your monitor that doesnt like your cards res
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett, ioria come to #ubuntu-discuss i have an important msg :p
[11:37] <NeverWinter> lotuspsychje, only in ubuntu they don't like each other.. it works on windows OSes.. :(
[11:38] <ubuntuisawesome> You guys ever use this: http://www.susestudio.com
[11:38] <kame_> or how can I switch between different console windows ?
[11:38] <kame_> is there a shortcut?
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:40] <EriC^^> NeverWinter: try setting the graphics lower in grub just to install and maybe update
[11:40] <NeverWinter> EriC^^: and the 1.000.000 problem: how ?
[11:40] <hateball> NeverWinter: you could, yes. still it has old drivers tho so you'd need to add the graphics drivers PPA to get support for the 970
[11:40] <NeverWinter> EriC^^: and the 1.000.000 dollars problem: how ? *
[11:40] <EriC^^> NeverWinter: add to the end of the kernel line vga=789
[11:41] <EriC^^> this is a list of the vga numbers and graphics http://pierre.baudu.in/other/grub.vga.modes.html
[11:41] <NeverWinter> EriC^^: I'm going to try now
[11:42] <EriC^^> NeverWinter: you might need to add another thing so that grub passes it to the kernel
[11:43] <EriC^^> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/gfxpayload.html
[11:43] <mcphail> NeverWinter: what is the native resolution of your monitor?
[11:44] <EriC^^> it's usually put in /etc/default/grub as GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep , but the variable is gfxpayload in grub
[11:44] <EriC^^> so if you can get a grub prompt put "set gfxpayload=keep"
[11:54] <NeverWinter> no luck
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter: you have a hdmi cable to test to your tv?
[11:55] <NeverWinter> I don't have a hdmi cable or a tv
[11:57] <NeverWinter> well, maybe I have a tv, but sure without hdmi
[11:58] <EriC^^> NeverWinter: did you try vga= and did you get a message about not being able to display 800x600?
[11:58] <mcphail> NeverWinter: what is the native resolution of your monitor?
[11:58] <NeverWinter> I do, same error
[11:58] <NeverWinter> is 1280 x 1024
[11:58] <EriC^^> NeverWinter: did you put the keep for the payload?
[11:59] <NeverWinter> I don't understant what you said, eric
[12:00] <mcphail> NeverWinter: try adding "drm_kms_helper.edid_firmware=edid/1280x1024" to your kernel parameters
[12:00] <EriC^^> NeverWinter: you need to set keep so it passes that mode to the kernel
[12:00] <EriC^^> i just tried in a vm, and you can press f6 then press esc, you'll get the linux .... quiet splash -- line
[12:01] <EriC^^> it's like this quiet splash --
[12:01] <EriC^^> make it quiet splash vga=789 -- ; set gfxpayload=keep;
[12:01] <EriC^^> then press enter
[12:01] <EriC^^> be sure to put the ";"
[12:05] <EriC^^> NeverWinter_: did you get my msgs about pressing f6 etc?
[12:08] <NeverWinter__> Im appeding to the string which ends in quiet splash --, right ?
[12:09] <EriC^^> yeah, quiet splash vga=789 --; set gfxpayload=keep;
[12:14] <NeverWinter__> same ..
[12:14] <EriC^^> that's odd, it worked in the vm
[12:14] <EriC^^> maybe something else is going on
[12:15] <EriC^^> do you get the msg right after you press enter?
[12:16] <sch4f> hi
[12:17] <NeverWinter__> no, i get it after about 10s
[12:17] <EriC^^> try booting without quiet splash and see what it says, did you notice the resolution was 800x600 after pressing enter?
[12:17] <puffi> Trying to downgrade a kernel to 3.13.x I've installed the image and headers via apt-get updated grub, but I don't seem to have an option on boot to boot that kernel?
[12:17] <puffi> ubuntu 14.04
[12:18] <EriC^^> puffi: it should be in advanced
[12:18] <puffi> EriC^^: It doesn't seem to be
[12:18] <EriC^^> puffi: type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:19] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[12:19] <puffi> http://termbin.com/l6uw
[12:20] <EriC^^> it's there, 3rd option
[12:20] <puffi> EriC^^: I understand it's in the file, but it's not an option when I boot..
[12:20] <EriC^^> puffi: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:20] <EriC^^> maybe you're loading a different file or something
[12:21] <puffi> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/f2pb
[12:22] <neverwinter> https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo/full?photo_id=8839460024
[12:22] <neverwinter> eric^^
[12:22] <puffi> EriC^^: I've just rebooted again, seems to be showing up now
[12:22] <EriC^^> puffi: ok
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: url goes to home, nothing to see
[12:23] <neverwinter> for me it works ...
[12:23] <EriC^^> same here, home page
[12:23] <ExecSlim_> neverwinter post it on imgur
[12:23] <ExecSlim_> I'm getting a homepage
[12:23] <neverwinter> ok, but on my phone works
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: try what ExecSlim suggests
[12:25] <neverwinter> i do
[12:25] <neverwinter> http://m.imgur.com/2VELbcS
[12:25] <neverwinter> this is what i wrote
[12:26] <ioria> neverwinter, you got the "cannot display this video mode" message ?
[12:26] <neverwinter> yes
[12:26] <EriC^^> neverwinter: ok, try without quiet splash
[12:26] <neverwinter> ok, one moment
[12:26] <ioria> nerbellion, have you tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/107806/error-cannot-display-this-video-mode ?
[12:27] <ioria> sorry
[12:27] <ioria> neverwinter, http://askubuntu.com/questions/107806/error-cannot-display-this-video-mode
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> ioria: he gets this warning after 'try' or 'install'
[12:28] <neverwinter> ioria this shoukd work only if i already have a linux system right ?
[12:28] <ioria> not installed yet ?
[12:28] <mcphail> NeverWinter: have you tried adding "drm_kms_helper.edid_firmware=edid/1280x1024" to your kernel parameters?
[12:28] <neverwinter> yes i tryed
[12:28] <EriC^^> neverwinter: try instead of vga= and gfxpayload gfxmode=800x600
[12:28] <mcphail> neverwinter: same result?
[12:28] <neverwinter> i have windows 7
[12:28] <EriC^^> -- ; set gfxmode=800x600;
[12:28] <EriC^^> no quiet splash
[12:28] <Mathisen> any tools to bypass activation on a ipad ???
[12:28] <neverwinter> ok
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Mathisen, wrong channel.
[12:29] <Mathisen> cfhowlett, can you send me in the right direction
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !alis | Mathisen,
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: so if you put the windows setup dvd in, you bypass this warning?
[12:32] <ioria> neverwinter, what happens if you wait a bit after the warning ?
[12:32] <neverwinter> i am i have installed already w7
[12:32] <absklb> hi
[12:32] <absklb> emacs is crashing when i open large file.
[12:32] <absklb> on ubuntu 15.04
[12:32] <absklb> any idea?
[12:33] <Anthaas> Hi guys, I have a Toshiba Satellite Pro and am wondering if someone could help me enable multi-touch gestures on my touch pad.
[12:33] <neverwinter> I havent waited more than 2 minutes
[12:33] <ioria> ok
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> absklb: maybe the #emacs channel might know the specific error?
[12:33] <neverwinter> how much to wait ?
[12:33] <absklb> lotuspsychje, tried. they cant help.
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> absklb: any errors on crash?
[12:34] <mcphail> absklb: you've already said you had errors in your config file. Do you still get the crash if you get rid of your config file?
[12:34] <absklb> mcphail, that was different. i removed that errors now no errors. emacs run well.
[12:34] <absklb> i am not talking about that.
[12:34] <mcphail> absklb: no matter
[12:35] <absklb> this time i am talking about something new
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> absklb: have you tryed this on 14.04?
[12:35] <absklb> 15.04
[12:35] <Anthaas> My mouse settings don't even seem to mention the touchpad
[12:35] <mcphail> absklb: and, I repeat, do you still get a crash if you get rid of your config file?
[12:35] <ioria> neverwinter, it's enough, i think :_|
[12:36] <Anthaas> "xinput list" seems to list a PS/2 Generic Mouse
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: have you tested a lubuntu or xubuntu liveusb?
[12:37] <neverwinter> this is really anoying... when I bought the pc it was already ubuntu installed.. and ive installed windows...
[12:37] <neverwinter> no, just this ubuntu
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: wait a minute, you had ubuntu working on same card?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> neverwinter, and that wrote over the ubuntu bootloader.  as expected.
[12:37] <somsom> I am having issues with sound
[12:37] <absklb> mcphail, i cant get rid of my config file as it has my web mode installed
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> !sound | somsom
[12:37] <neverwinter> i haved about 10 mounths ago
[12:37] <somsom> soundcard is not detected, I tried checking pulseaudio but no soundcard shows up
[12:38] <mcphail> absklb: ok, well we will never be able to tell whether this is a problem with the emacs package or your config
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: wich version worked on your box?
[12:38] <absklb> :-o
[12:38] <somsom> Also, there is no alsamixer and neither am I able to install it
[12:38] <neverwinter> I dont have any idea. i just wipe the hdd and installed windows
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: worked on the same monitor?
[12:39] <neverwinter> yes
[12:39] <BluesKaj> somsom, install alsa-base and alsa-utils, alsamixer is part of those packages
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: did you buy this with ubuntu installed, or install yourself?
[12:39] <neverwinter> but it was already installed
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: by whom?
[12:39] <neverwinter> i buy with the ubuntu installe
[12:39] <neverwinter> d
[12:39] <neverwinter> "for testing"
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: from person or store
[12:39] <neverwinter> stire
[12:40] <neverwinter> store
[12:40] <absklb> mcphail, i md .emacs emacs and started emacs. open large php file. try to go down. it crashed.
[12:40] <absklb> mv*
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: can you see the ubuntu version on the paper you received?
[12:40] <absklb> mcphail, it killed all my apps and x
[12:40] <LibertyPlanet> Does anyone know how to install Virtual Box in Trisquel?
[12:40] <absklb> whats trisquel?
[12:40] <neverwinter> no i cant
[12:40] <nutzer> who knows if portal is available for linux
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !steam | nutzer
[12:40] <LibertyPlanet> Incase you don't know Trisquel is based off ubuntu
[12:40] <absklb> portal devs?
[12:40] <neverwinter> already searched for it
[12:41] <Anthaas> I have a Toshiba Satellite Pro and am wondering if someone could help me enable multi-touch gestures on my touch pad, I'm running Ubuntu. "xinput list" seems to list a "PS/2 Generic Mouse" and there are no options within the "Mouse and Touchpad" area of System Settings.
[12:41] <cfhowlett> LibertyPlanet, but trisquel is NOT ubuntu and is not supported here.  ask trisquel for support of their OS
[12:41] <mcphail> absklb: OK, that sounds more helpful. X crashes completely?
[12:41] <nutzer> thanx
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: and it worked on same graphics card right?
[12:41] <absklb> mcphail, as if i did kill -9 -1
[12:41] <neverwinter> yes
[12:41] <absklb> like that
[12:41] <neverwinter> everything same
[12:41] <LibertyPlanet> Trisquel is still using the Ubuntu engine.. Hopefully this chatroom is welcoming and accepting.
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: wich brand is this pc?
[12:41] <neverwinter> is custom pv
[12:42] <neverwinter> pc
[12:42] <mcphail> absklb: anythig odd about the file you open?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> !flavors | LibertyPlanet
[12:42] <somsom> when I try to install alsamixer it says "E: Unable to locate package alsamixer"
[12:42] <ioria> neverwinter, have you tried Lubuntu ?
[12:42] <absklb> its a .php file! what else can be more odd! :-p
[12:42] <absklb> mcphail, its a .php file! what else can be more odd! :-p
[12:42] <absklb> mcphail, no. nothing. just a regular php file.
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: yeah try lubuntu/xubuntu as ioria says
[12:42] <cfhowlett> LibertyPlanet, we are accepting and welcoming of ubuntu users.  trisquel IS NOT ubuntu.
[12:42] <neverwinter> no just this version, not anything elsr
[12:42] <neverwinter> elsr
[12:43] <neverwinter> else
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: try one pls
[12:43] <BluesKaj> LibertyPlanet, the only above ubuntu flavors are supported here
[12:43] <neverwinter> i will, but now i havent any free dvd
[12:43] <absklb> LibertyPlanet, most probably they should have their own channel and mailing list
[12:43] <ioria> neverwinter, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO
[12:43] <ioria> neverwinter, usb ?
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: got spare usb perhaps?
[12:43] <neverwinter> i mean, empty dvd
[12:44] <neverwinter> i borred my
[12:44] <mcphail> absklb: presumably there is no error message before the crash? Do you get an apport error message after you restart X?
[12:44] <absklb> mcphail, i tried to look at Xlog, sys long and thhey do not hint anything to do with "emacs" in them
[12:44] <neverwinter> borrow
[12:44] <absklb> mcphail, once I got the apport message after this happend very first time, i made it report the bug, but after that nothing happend.no browser open nothing.
[12:44] <LibertyPlanet> the distro I am using is a variant of Ubuntu 14.04. In the spirit Free Software for Freedom, can someone please help me and not get concerned about semantics.
[12:44] <Anthaas> Can anyone help me with my mouse issue?
[12:45] <neverwinter> and it never comes back.. i use mybphone to move data
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: call the store to know wich ubuntu version came with your custom pc, im really curious :p
[12:45] <ioria> neverwinter, boot win , download from the link,   go to http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ , , insert usb and it's done
[12:45] <absklb> LibertyPlanet, please join ##linux
[12:45] <mcphail> absklb: if you delete everytging in /var/crash and repeat the process, do you get an apport message?
[12:45] <absklb> if you have registered nick that is!
[12:45] <neverwinter> i could ask in their board
[12:45] <absklb> mcphail, let me test.
[12:45] <blobbagus> I'm getting ready to nuke my hdd and install clean. Is there a way to list the packages I've installed so I can build a bash that re-installs those?
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: wich board would that be?
[12:46] <neverwinter> the store forum
[12:46] <cfhowlett> LibertyPlanet, as clearly stated, this channel is for ubuntu support.  you are NOT using ubuntu.  your OS should provide support.  if they don't perhaps there's a message for you.  we suppor the official ubuntu flavors only
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> neverwinter: got an url?
[12:46] <neverwinter> let me boot win first
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> ok
[12:46] <somsom> can someone tell me why I get this error when trying to install alsamixer "E: Unable to locate package alsamixer"
[12:46] <SergioEDuran1> Hello
[12:46] <LibertyPlanet> Ubuntu is Free Software. There is no such thing as Official!
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !flavors | LibertyPlanet false.  read.
[12:47] <LibertyPlanet> Unless Ubuntu has become the new Apple or Microsoft
[12:47] <blobbagus> @somsom: you probably don't have the repository...
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> somsom: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[12:47] <Pici> !derivatives
[12:47] <cfhowlett> somsom, lsb_release -a tells you???
[12:47] <somsom> blobbagus: which repository do i need to add ?
[12:47] <bashtanov> hi chat, what x terminal emulators support copying of color text to clipboard (for further pasting in HTML-aware application such as e.g. libreoffice writer)? pipe converters such as aha are not an option
[12:47] <somsom> lsb_release gives distro name
[12:48] <blobbagus> from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1537375 alsamixer is in the alsa-utils package
[12:48] <cfhowlett> somsom, we know.  now ... tell us what YOUR'S says
[12:48] <NeverWinter_> lotus
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: yes?
[12:48] <NeverWinter_> http://www.mygarage.ro/
[12:48] <absklb> mcphail, seeing the apport report. reporting .....
[12:49] <NeverWinter_> the board
[12:49] <NeverWinter_> http://www.pcgarage.ro/ the main site
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: ok tnx
[12:49] <absklb> mcphail, sorry ubuntu 15.04 has experienced internal error if you notice further problems try restarting.
[12:49] <blobbagus> now... any way to list manually installed packages? :)
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: now try a lubuntu/xubuntu maybe
[12:50] <absklb> mcphail, in details it shows /usr/bin/Xorg i am clicking on continue
[12:50] <trijntje_> I'm trying to run a 14.04 ubuntu guest on a 14.04 host in virtualbox, but the resolution of the guest is only 640x480. How can I get a normal resolution for the guest?
[12:50] <NeverWinter_> yes... is any way to install it from hdd ?
[12:50] <mcphail> absklb: which package does apport blame?
[12:50] <absklb> mcphail, in details it shows /usr/bin/Xorg i am clicking on continue
[12:50] <mcphail> absklb: aah
[12:50] <cfhowlett> trijntje_, install guest additions
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: you can load Iso's from grub, thats a little harder way
[12:50] <absklb> mcphail, after this windew where i click continue it shown the very first "Report this problem" winow
[12:50] <NeverWinter_> lotuspsychje, I haven't grub :D
[12:50] <mcphail> absklb: can't remember if you get a url at the end of the process. If you do, can you post it here?
[12:51] <absklb> mcphail, no nothing. no urle. just the very first report problem window again.
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: you do have grub, thats where you added lines with EriC^^
[12:51] <NeverWinter_> lotuspsychje, oh, do you mean, the grub from ubuntu 14 dvd ?
[12:51] <mcphail> absklb: go through the process with that window as well as it might be a different package
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[12:51] <absklb> mcphail, did. clicked on report. nothing happened.
[12:52] <absklb> no new window at all.
[12:52] <NeverWinter_> lotuspsychje, may I ask you why are you so curios ?
[12:52] <Anthaas> Can anyone help me with my mouse issue?
[12:52] <mcphail> absklb: give it a few minutes. apport can be sloooooow
[12:52] <blobbagus> I ran this: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > my-selections, but it has tons of pkgs I didn't install :(
[12:52] <NeverWinter_> curious*
[12:52] <absklb> mcphail, sure. will waint and let you know if any new window comes.
[12:52] <absklb> wait*
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: im curious to know wich ubuntu version Did work on your box, have no monitor issues before right
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: this is handy to know for us troubleshooting
[12:53] <mcphail> absklb: cheers. I can't remember how you can get a link to an apport report, though
[12:53] <mcphail> absklb: if anything obvious arises, ping me. I've got to work for a few hours but I'll check my /lastlog
[12:54] <Anthaas> I have a Toshiba Satellite Pro and am wondering if someone could help me enable multi-touch gestures on my touch pad, I'm running Ubuntu. "xinput list" seems to list a "PS/2 Generic Mouse" and there are no options within the "Mouse and Touchpad" area of System Settings.
[12:54] <absklb> mcphail, sure and thanks.
[12:55] <absklb> Anthaas, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[12:55] <absklb> Anthaas, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=248066
[12:55] <mcphail> absklb: hope I can help
[12:55] <absklb> me too! :-) need to get emacs really!
[12:55] <absklb> sorry for the fedora link. i thought its generic.
[12:56] <NeverWinter_> I asked on their board
[12:58] <trijntje_> cfhowlett: I've already installed the guest additions iso via apt get, and ran the VBoxLinuxAdditions.run, but I still have low resolution
[12:59] <NeverWinter_> how can I open the GRUB 2's terminal ?
[12:59] <cfhowlett> trijntje_, to clarify; your guest user doesn't get full resolution at boot?
[12:59] <absklb> NeverWinter_, when you reboot press shift after bios it will show you grun entries. select recovery
[12:59] <ioria> Anthaas, have you tried without the mouse  and pressing "Fn" + "F9" keys together ?
[13:00] <trijntje_> cfhowlett: correct
[13:00] <NeverWinter_> let me ask in a different way: how can I open GRUB 2's terminal from a ubuntu installation ? is it the same ?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> trijntje_, but if you login as a regular user you DO get the correct rez?
[13:00] <hateball> lotuspsychje: if he has a 970 he needs newer drivers than ubuntu has, so they could have preinstalled a minimal install and then manual drivers from nvidia (or ppa)
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> hateball: yeah, ive just found a garage pc with 11.10 on it lol
[13:01] <ioria> NeverWinter_, you don't have a spare usb  ? (i'm curious too)
[13:01] <NeverWinter_> not anymore
[13:01] <trijntje_> cfhowlett: the guest resolution is wrong, both during the boot of the guest and after logging in as a user in the guest ubuntu
[13:01] <NeverWinter_> i use my phone as one
[13:02] <hateball> I'd do a minimal install without GUI, then from a tty add the graphics-drivers PPA and install ubuntu-desktop
[13:02] <cfhowlett> trijntje_, ah, then you need to get the guest additions sorted.
[13:02] <cfhowlett> as guest additions enable native resolution
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: buy a cheap 2gig to make an ubuntu usb
[13:02] <Anthaas> ioria: That is volume down for me...
[13:02] <somsom> cfhowlett: lsb_release says No LSB modules are available. Distribution id : Ubuntu 14.04.3  LTS
[13:02] <NeverWinter_> yeah.. I will buy
[13:03] <ioria> Anthaas, no.... sorry then :-P
[13:03] <cfhowlett> Neverwinter  .... and never leave home without it!
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> hateball: good idea, minimal or lubuntu
[13:03] <cfhowlett> somsom, OK.
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: lol
[13:03] <hateball> lotuspsychje: well any gui will go crazy if the driver is wrong anyhow
[13:03] <trijntje_> cfhowlett: but how?
[13:03] <absklb> lotuspsychje, xubuntu
[13:03] <ioria> Anthaas, was reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=925379
[13:03] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, I am dead serious.  I have one around my neck and a credit card/usb in my wallet.  just in case.
[13:04] <cfhowlett> trijntje_, have you rebooted since adding guest additions?
[13:04] <NeverWinter_> alwais problems with resolution :)))) in a virtual machine -> too low, boting and trying to install -> to high. ubuntu really hates me
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: i always have trusty 64bit on my keys :p
[13:04] <Anthaas> ioria: Im not even sure my laptop has recognised that it is a synaptics touchpad.
[13:04] <absklb> Anthaas, did you saw the link I gave?
[13:04] <ioria> Anthaas, it's not working at all ?
[13:05] <Anthaas> absklb: Yes, I have read through both of them
[13:05] <Anthaas> ioria: It is working in that I can move the mouse around the page, it is just the two finger scrolling that isnt working.
[13:06] <somsom> I tried following this thread but alsamixer still does not get installed
[13:06] <somsom> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1537375
[13:06] <trijntje_> cfhowlett: yes
[13:06] <hateball> NeverWinter_: if the machine has integrated graphics you could use them for installing
[13:07] <Anthaas> I typed synclient and got: Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
[13:07] <cfhowlett> trijntje_, you restarted your ubuntu guest, right
[13:07] <NeverWinter_> hateball, do you mean a processor graphics ?
[13:07] <hateball> NeverWinter_: Yes
[13:07] <ioria> Anthaas, take a look at your bios (if TP enabled) , otherwise you should search for some kernel parameter to add at boot
[13:08] <trijntje_> cfhowlett: yes
[13:08] <NeverWinter_> hateball, I have Intel Core i7 4790 3.6GHz
[13:09] <Anthaas> ioria: Restarting :-)
[13:09] <NeverWinter_> HD 4600
[13:09] <NeverWinter_> hateball: HD 4600
[13:10] <hateball> NeverWinter_: can you try booting using that instead of the nvidia card?
[13:10] <puffi> using 3.13.0-63-generic on 14.04 and nls_utf8.ko doesn't seem to exist on this kernel
[13:11] <puffi> so i have issues mounting cifs with iocharset=utf8, work arounds?
[13:11] <arunangshu> i am trying to patch my wifi driver but due to mismatch between driver source code and kernel version api i am getting make errors. how to fix this situation and i am new in here
[13:11] <NeverWinter_> hateball: if you told me how :D
[13:11] <absklb> arunangshu, install that kernel?
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> arunangshu: wifi chipset, driver loaded and ubuntu version please?
[13:13] <hateball> NeverWinter_: well you move the cable to your monitor. however you must disconnect the nvidia card from the motherboard or it will try to use that
[13:13] <arunangshu> to absklb: how to know which kernel to install
[13:13] <hateball> NeverWinter_: if you can get installed that way, we can add the nvidia drivers before plugging the card back in
[13:13] <absklb> arunangshu, the one mentioned as requirement in your driver doc?
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> hateball: +1
[13:14] <NeverWinter_> hateball, I'm not very sure I'm allowed to open the .. how to say... the "house"
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: your box is still in garantuee?
[13:14] <NeverWinter_> i think yes
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: under 2 years old?
[13:15] <NeverWinter_> about 11 mouths
[13:15] <NeverWinter_> months
[13:15] <absklb> mouths!
[13:15] <NeverWinter_> so yes, it is
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: is it sealed with something?
[13:16] <Anthaas> Oh, ioria has gone...
[13:16] <NeverWinter_> it looks like yes
[13:16] <Anthaas> absklb: There is nothing in my bios to turn it on or off...
[13:16] <NeverWinter_> but Im not 100% sure
[13:16] <absklb> ok
[13:16] <NeverWinter_> no bios/uefi way xD ?
[13:17] <Anthaas> Not from what I can see :/
[13:17] <hateball> NeverWinter_: There might be a setting to disable the discrete graphics
[13:17] <NeverWinter_> I will search it
[13:18] <hateball> NeverWinter_: failing that, you'd need to get hold of a thumbdrive that lets you put 15.10 on it, I think that has a fresh enough kernel to give at least basic support for the 970 card
[13:18] <fornax> Hi, I need help with lxc on Ubuntu 15.04. The network between lxc guests and the outside suddenly stops working. Everything seems to be configured correctly but after some time I'm no more able to access any ip from inside the container and the container intself from outside or the host itself
[13:18] <fornax> Even when I restart the container, the problem still exists
[13:18] <NeverWinter_> hateball, yes, I will burn 15.x on a dvd this days
[13:20] <trijntje_> cfhowlett: looks like its a known problem that isn't going to be fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1424769
[13:21] <hateball> NeverWinter_: 15.04 still has too old a driver to support 970 out of the box
[13:21] <arunangshu> on issuing make command i am getting this errors http://pastebin.com/jELz3qBv what to do
[13:21] <hateball> NeverWinter_: only the nvidia proprietary driver has proper support, which is why it would be nice if you could install it with intel first so we could prepare the drivers
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> hateball: doesnt makde sense he can goto the 'try' and 'install' screen without trouble?
[13:22] <jpds> andriyun: Why are you compiling something from 2012?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> trijntje_, ow.  sorry to hear that.
[13:22] <NeverWinter_> so how can I get 15.10 ?
[13:22] <hateball> lotuspsychje: I didnt think it got that far?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | NeverWinter_,
[13:23] <wm-rajpout> hello 2 all
[13:23] <hateball> NeverWinter_: like cfhowlett said, also http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> hateball: yes he can, he gets the monitor error wrong res, after the install or try screen
[13:24] <cfhowlett> NeverWinter_,  you DO know you're chasing an unreleased version there, right?
[13:24] <NeverWinter_> cfhowlett, now yes
[13:24] <Ben64> why
[13:24] <Ben64> what problem are you trying to solve
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: he's getting wrong resolution error after trying or installing ubuntu on his 970
[13:25] <cfhowlett> trijntje_, I can only imagine it's a unity conflict.  I've been happily booting full resolution with fedora and *buntu guests.  BUT, I run xfce4, not unity
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: his card is connected with vga to dvi to monitor
[13:25] <Ben64> ew
[13:26] <Ben64> that might be the source of the problem actually
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: converter right?
[13:27] <pauljw> brb
[13:27] <NeverWinter_> I dont understand what do you want to say with converter
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: you said to me your card is dvi, and monitor vga output right?
[13:27] <NeverWinter_> yes
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: and you using a converter?
[13:28] <NeverWinter_> my monitor have both dvi and vga, but i have only vga cable
[13:28] <trijntje_> cfhowlett: according to that bug report it has to do with the lts hardware enablement stack. If you install it you cannot run vbox with guest additions due to version conflicts
[13:28] <NeverWinter_> yes, I do
[13:28] <cfhowlett> trijntje_, I see.
[13:29] <arunangshu> on issuing make command i am getting this errors http://pastebin.com/jELz3qBv what to do
[13:29] <NeverWinter_> yes, I'm using
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: so monitor vga[13:30] <trijntje_> Is there a way to download ubuntu 14.04? I can only find 14.04.3 on the website
[13:30] <NeverWinter_> roght
[13:30] <NeverWinter_> right
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: what should he try, dvi cable?
[13:31] <popey> trijntje_: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[13:31] <Ben64> dvi would be way better
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: so 2 things to buy this week: dvi cable and usb 2gig :p
[13:31] <NeverWinter_> I will but a new monitor in novembre / decembre
[13:31] <popey> trijntje_: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.0/ specifically (ignore the banner at the top and scroll down)
[13:31] <NeverWinter_> I stii don't know if "decembre" si french or english
[13:32] <popey> er -> en, re -> fr
[13:32] <trijntje_> popey: I didn't know they kept those around, thanks!
[13:32] <NeverWinter_> still *
[13:32] <popey> trijntje_: np
[13:32] <NeverWinter_> yeah, ty
[13:32] <NeverWinter_> november or december so
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: if it would work with dvi cable, why buy new monitor?
[13:34] <NeverWinter_> because my current monitor is from 2007, is squary and I want a new one for few years :))
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: always use your hardware until it explodes
[13:34] <arunangshu> on issuing make command i am getting this errors http://pastebin.com/jELz3qBv what to do
[13:34] <NeverWinter_> lotuspsychje, don't worry
[13:35] <NeverWinter_> lotuspsychje, will be used with old pc
[13:35] <NeverWinter_> :)))
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: ok you received many hints today, time for action :p
[13:35]  * cfhowlett prefers to use it until is begins smoking and gently melts into a pool of warm platic
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> and good luck!
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: hehe
[13:35] <NeverWinter_> no, time for a coffee
[13:40] <NeverWinter_> ok guys, thank you, I go to make a coffee
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: what about us?
[13:41] <NeverWinter_> a beer for you
[13:41] <NeverWinter_> and hate
[13:41] <NeverWinter_> and everyone who helped me
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter_: great!
[13:45] <blib> I've a intel box and am looking to automate the ubuntu install and update process. How can I do this?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> blib, for ONE machine or an entire fleet
[13:47] <blib> cfhowlett: I've 7 machines - but one for starters would be nice
[13:47] <cfhowlett> blib, suggest you ask in #ubuntu-server and take a look at
[13:47] <cfhowlett> !ltsp
[13:47] <blib> cfhowlett: I want everything automated, so that I can keep going back to ubuntu basic, then run an update script to get my applications setup
[13:48] <absklb> blib, check pxe boot and cobbler
[13:48] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[13:52] <Anthaas> I hav
[13:52] <Anthaas> oops
[13:52] <Anthaas> I have /home/me/bin on my $PATH variable, and have a folder inside /home/me/bin which contains a program. Why can I not execute this from anywhere?
[13:55] <Ben64> Anthaas: move it to /home/me/bin/
[13:55] <k1l_> Anthaas: did try a relogin?
[13:55] <Anthaas> Ben64 surely it is recursive? i.e. anything in subfolders is also on the path...
[13:56] <zenisz> hello! :) i need some help with installing ubuntu on a second hdd. i got dual-boot win7/ubuntu on main hdd. can someone help me?
[13:56] <Anthaas> Im back, sorry. Just tried relogging.
[13:56] <Anthaas> Still nothing.
[13:57] <EriC^^> zenisz: choose something else in the installer
[13:57] <Ben64> anth0ny: no, PATH is not recursive, and don't call me shirley
[13:57] <Anthaas> Hahaha :P A reference I get! Watched Airplane the other day :P
[13:57] <cfhowlett> roger, Roger
[13:57] <Anthaas> So, if I have /home/me/bin on the PATH, and I have /home/me/bin/folder/program, then "program" isn't on the PATH?
[13:58] <Ben64> Anthaas: correct
[13:58] <zenisz> EriC^^: what should i choose in "Device for boot loader..." ?
[13:58] <EriC^^> zenisz: choose the second hdd
[13:58] <EriC^^> ( where you're installing )
[13:59] <Anthaas> Ben64: Thanks :D
[13:59] <absklb> Ben64, what? its not recursive? why?
[13:59] <lo0k3> hey guys, i want install 3 distros at one pc, is it ok?
[13:59] <zenisz> EriC^^: is any difference about this? also, do you suggest me to add root and home separately?
[13:59] <Anthaas> Yeah, I would have thought it would have been too...
[13:59] <k1l_> lo0k3: ok
[13:59] <AaronZ800> lo0k3 yeah it is
[13:59] <Ben64> absklb: why would it be? bin/ is for binaries, not for folders with binaries
[13:59] <absklb> lo0k3, coompletely ok. as long as your disk and pc owner aproves it!
[14:00] <mzaza> I am configuring FTP on AWS instance running Ubuntu, following this guid http://sdykman.com/content/installing-vsftpd-ubuntu-1404-amazon-ec2-instance
[14:00] <lo0k3> thanks guys
[14:00] <Anthaas> Ben64: It would allow me to separate binaries logically
[14:00] <mzaza> Still with no luck, it asks  for password then I get 425 fail
[14:00] <absklb> Ben64, what if programs want to store their binaries in folders with some config files?
[14:00] <Anthaas> Also that
[14:00] <Ben64> they shouldn't
[14:00] <fearnothing-alt> hi, I want to disable automount without using dconf-editor
[14:00] <absklb> oh
[14:00] <fearnothing-alt> how can I do this please?
[14:00] <Anthaas> They should reference somewhere, perhaps ~/.config
[14:00] <EriC^^> zenisz: it's better so it'll be a standalone install, it's up to you a separate /home isn't needed
[14:01] <Ben64> mzaza: ftp is old and bad, I recommend strongly against using it
[14:03] <zenisz> EriC^^: okay, and one more question: what about swap partition? how much for 16GB Ram do you suggest?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> zenisz, 16gb
[14:03] <EriC^^> zenisz: if you want to hibernate ^
[14:03] <zenisz> cfhowlett: 16gb swap part? that is not too much?
[14:04] <mzaza> Ben64: What should I use?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> zenisz, depends on your use, but it's what I use on my 16 gb box
[14:04] <cfhowlett> ymmv
[14:04] <mzaza> Ben64: SCP?
[14:04] <EriC^^> if you dont need hibernation, don't use a swap partition unless you have a special need for it
[14:04] <somsip> mzaza: open the port on your security group
[14:04] <Ben64> mzaza: sftp, scp yeah
[14:05] <SunnySingh> hey folks
[14:05] <zenisz> cfhowlett: okay, so 16gb are for hibernate? right?
[14:05] <cfhowlett> zenisz, yep.  of course, if you never hibernate ...
[14:06] <zenisz> EriC^^: for virtualbox etc... you think i need it?
[14:06] <mzaza> Ben64: OK, the problem is that in AWS I use pem file to authenticate, and I don't know how to use that in ftp client. No password
[14:06] <EriC^^> no 16gb is enough
[14:06] <Ben64> mzaza: do you mean sftp client
[14:07] <mzaza> Ben64: Yes
[14:07] <zenisz> EriC^^, cfhowlett: so, if i do 16gb swap can i release some space from the swap partition for the home folder in the future?
[14:07] <cfhowlett> zenisz, yep
[14:07] <cfhowlett> with gparted
[14:07] <Ben64> mzaza: here are instructions for winscp https://winscp.net/eng/docs/public_key
[14:08] <cfhowlett> !swap
[14:08] <EriC^^> zenisz: yeah, you can delete the swap, resize the other partition and fs, then recreate the swap, make sure to put the swap at the end though
[14:08] <Ben64> mzaza: ooh wait wrong page. https://winscp.net/eng/docs/guide_public_key#configure_winscp_session
[14:08] <mzaza> Ben64: Thanks, one last thing. To use sftp I need to install vsftpd?
[14:09] <mzaza> Ben64: OK, waiting
[14:09] <zenisz> nice, cfhowlett & EriC^^ thank you so much! have a great day! :)
[14:09] <Ben64> mzaza: nope. sftp is file transfer over ssh, nothing to do with ftp or vsftpd
[14:09] <cfhowlett> happy2help! zenisz
[14:09] <EriC^^> np, you too!
[14:09] <SunnySingh> I have a laptop running Windows 10 and would like to install Ubuntu. I must retain Microsoft Excel and Office generally so thought I'd dual-boot but according to Ubuntu documentation it's better to natively install it and virtualise Windows 10. Does this mean I should clear Windows 10 off my laptop and then install Ubuntu natively then run Windows 10 virtually?
[14:10] <fearnothing-alt> anyone have any pointers to my automount question?
[14:11] <lo0k3> SunnySingh: just use dual-boot
[14:11] <lo0k3> SunnySingh: it's ok
[14:11] <SunnySingh> thanks, lo0k3
[14:11] <SunnySingh> in the past week I've migrated from Chrome to Waterfox and from Outlook to Thunderbird
[14:11] <lo0k3> SunnySingh: dual-boot = native install
[14:11] <SunnySingh> oh OK
[14:12] <cfhowlett> SunnySingh, you could also install windows + vbox + ubuntu
[14:13] <SunnySingh> so that would virtualise Windows 10, cfhowlett?
[14:13] <codemather> I found that ubuntu mate is the most awesome distro in the world
[14:13] <codemather> :)
[14:13] <cfhowlett> SunnySingh, no.  windows 10 + vbox + virtual ubuntu
[14:13] <SunnySingh> oh right
[14:13] <codemather> It is lightweight, fast and has complete theme which is better than linux mint
[14:14] <codemather> It also provides global menu and many solid applications :)
[14:14] <SunnySingh> my first foray into Linux to be honest
[14:14] <cfhowlett> codemather, glad you like it.  please give love in #ubuntu-offtopic and let us continue with support in this channel
[14:15] <realcr> I can't manage to install supervisor on Ubuntu:14.04 in a docker container. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32716298/cant-install-supervisor-on-a-docker-container-ubuntutrusty
[14:15] <EdwardIII> https://gist.github.com/EdwardIII/c2e8792a9571818e5cb5
[14:16] <EdwardIII> i'm seeing some weird-ass issues with php5-fpm
[14:16] <EdwardIII> the init.d script says "No /usr/sbin/php5-fpm found running; none killed." but yet i can see it's running
[14:16] <EdwardIII> if i kill php5-fpm manually something restarts  it
[14:17] <EdwardIII> ghosts?
[14:17] <k1l_> EdwardIII: wasnt it you using 3rd party PPA or a 3rd party .iso last time?
[14:18] <EdwardIII> i am using a 3rd party ppa yes but from what i can tell fpm doesn't come from there
[14:18] <EdwardIII> actually maybe i'm wrong: https://gist.github.com/EdwardIII/ad9d78f81a557090a832
[14:19] <k1l_> EdwardIII: "apt-cache policy php5-fpm"
[14:19] <EdwardIII> huh well why don't i just shut up then
[14:19] <EdwardIII> apparently it is from there
[14:19] <EdwardIII> so i guess i need to lodge an issue with the author or use the offical repos i guess?
[14:19] <EdwardIII> unless there's a supported way to get php 5.5 on ubuntu 14.04?
[14:20] <k1l_> yes, that is what we could help you with in this channel.
[14:20] <EdwardIII> ok... is there one?
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> !info php5 trusty
[14:20] <k1l_> EdwardIII: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/php5  its 5.5.9 in ubuntu
[14:20] <k1l_> in ubuntu 14.04
[14:20] <EdwardIII> whoa
[14:21] <louiemat> is there any help for a question on chromixium to be answered
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !ask | louiemat,
[14:21] <lo0k3> !patience
[14:21] <EdwardIII> hmm weirdly i don't see anything in my build process that contains that ppm. i'm going to destroy the box & rebuild it
[14:22] <alig> help
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> !ask | alig
[14:22] <k1l_> EdwardIII: might be a preconfigured thing from vagrant. you could use a original ubuntu iso
[14:23] <EdwardIII> k1l_: hmm yes possibly. for now perhaps i'll add a remove to my build process
[14:23] <louiemat> What is the best browser to use on Chromixium-chromium or chrome?
[14:24] <EdwardIII> is it just rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ondrej-php5-trusty.list ?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> !help | alig
[14:24] <lo0k3> louiemat: it's same
[14:24] <louiemat> thanks
[14:25] <cfhowlett> louiemat,  chromixium OS is not supported here.  ask them for support
[14:25] <lo0k3> but chrome install with some google's shit
[14:25] <k1l_> louiemat: better ask the Chromixium support what they think about that. its not an official ubuntu release
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> louiemat: or feel free to install ubuntu desktop
[14:26] <OerHeks> lo0k3, it is not the same, and please watch your language, thanks
[14:29] <Anthaas> Can someone help me set up ssh certificate based autentication from my laptop to my server (which I need to connect to through another server)
[14:29] <Anthaas> i.e. Me -> Middle Server -> My Server.
[14:29] <EdwardIII> Anthaas: ssh tunneling?
[14:29] <EdwardIII> or the certificates specifically?
[14:29] <Anthaas> Getting bored of typing ssh me@middle.blah, password, me@myserver.blah, password.
[14:30] <a7i3n> 1. Generate the ssh key pair on your client computer:
[14:30] <Anthaas> Umm, I dont know EdwardIII sorry
[14:30] <a7i3n>  ssh-keygen
[14:30] <a7i3n> Copy the public key to the server:
[14:30] <a7i3n>  scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub user@10.10.10.1:
[14:31] <a7i3n> Connect to the server:
[14:31] <a7i3n>  ssh user@10.10.10.1
[14:31] <a7i3n> 4. Append the public key to authorized_keys and remove the uploaded copy:
[14:31] <a7i3n>  cat id_rsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[14:31] <a7i3n>  rm id_rsa.pub
[14:31] <a7i3n> 5. Edit the ssh server configuration to make sure that public key authentication is enabled (it should be enabled by default):
[14:31] <a7i3n>  sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[14:32] <a7i3n> 5.1 These entries must be set to yes:
[14:32] <a7i3n>  RSAAuthentication yes
[14:32] <a7i3n>  PubkeyAuthentication yes
[14:32] <Ivoah> I have two hard disks installed in my laptop. One has Ubuntu+Grub on it, and the other had Mac OS X. I formatted the Mac drive and installed Windows 7 on it, but grub still thinks it's got OS X. Do I need to refresh grub or something?
[14:32] <a7i3n> 6. Reload the configuration:
[14:32] <a7i3n>  sudo service ssh reload
[14:32] <a7i3n> 7. Disconnect from the server:
[14:32] <a7i3n>  exit
[14:32] <Anthaas> a7i3n: thanks :D I am going through these now
[14:33] <a7i3n> . Try connecting without the need to give the password to the ssh-client:
[14:33] <a7i3n>  ssh user@10.10.10.1
[14:33] <a7i3n> You might need to give a password now to access your private key  file, but you should not need to give the password to the ssh program.
[14:33] <a7i3n> 9. Disable password authentication:
[14:33] <a7i3n>  sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[14:33] <a7i3n> 9.1 The following settings should be set to no:
[14:33] <a7i3n>  ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
[14:33] <a7i3n>  PasswordAuthentication no
[14:33] <a7i3n>  UsePAM no
[14:33] <a7i3n> 9.2. Reload the configuration:
[14:33] <a7i3n>  sudo service ssh reload
[14:34] <alig> hi
[14:34] <OerHeks> a7i3n, why copy paste ?
[14:34] <OerHeks> !ssh
[14:34] <Pici> !pastebin
[14:34] <alig> what the best irc app for android ?
[14:34] <k1l_> alig: better ask in #android
[14:34] <somsip> alig: nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:34] <a7i3n> IThis is the process I have used, it's from my notes...
[14:34] <kame_> Is there a *good* text about the IRC and how to use it?
[14:34] <alig> ok
[14:34] <OerHeks> alig, you might want to ask that in a #android channel
[14:35] <alig> ty
[14:35] <a7i3n> I'm a lousy typist so I keep strict notes...
[14:35] <alig> and for ubuntu )
[14:35] <alig> i use xchat
[14:35] <EdwardIII> i have a feeling a7i3n's solution would only get him as far as the middle server, right? he'd still have to re-enter his creds on the other server
[14:35] <cfhowlett> kame_, https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf
[14:35] <OerHeks> alig, xchat is fine, bu tno longer in development
[14:36] <a7i3n> I use weechat...
[14:36] <cfhowlett> alig, sudo apt-get purge xchat && sudo apt install hexchat
[14:36] <alig> why for hexchat ?
[14:36] <Ivoah> I have two hard disks installed in my laptop. One has Ubuntu+Grub on it, and the other had Mac OS X. I formatted the Mac drive and installed Windows 7 on it, but grub still thinks it's got OS X. Do I need to refresh grub or something?
[14:36] <a7i3n> What would you add Edward?
[14:37] <cfhowlett> hexchat is the recommended replacement for xchat.  xchat is a dead project
[14:37] <alig> ok thx
[14:37] <k1l_> alig: xchat is stopped. hexchat is the new xchat
[14:37] <EdwardIII> k1l_: ok so i've switched to the offical repo, destroyed & rebuilt the box but the problem seems to persist? https://gist.github.com/EdwardIII/14b94c26ae5a100353fe
[14:37] <OerHeks> Ivoah, yes, open terminal :  sudo update-grub # and reboot
[14:37] <alig> i'll try
[14:37] <Ivoah> thanks
[14:37] <EdwardIII> a7i3n: good question, i'm not really sure
[14:37] <OerHeks> if it finds no windows on your mac, : os-prober
[14:37] <EdwardIII> Anthaas: why do you connect through the middle server?
[14:38] <EdwardIII> Anthaas: incoming connects must come from that ip address?
[14:38] <OerHeks> lolz, windows on your mac, that sounds so silly
[14:38] <a7i3n> I'm no expert so I was hoping you might have further information concerning this issue...
[14:38] <Anthaas> a7i3n: Perfect - thanks. Im assuming I repeat the process from middle->myserver once I have done me->middle?
[14:38] <Anthaas> EdwardIII: Yes.
[14:38] <k1l_> EdwardIII: what issue exactly? i am not a php guy :/
[14:39] <a7i3n> Not sure...play with it for awhile and see what happens... just do things slowly...Antaas
[14:39] <EdwardIII> k1l_: well i don't think it's a PHP problem necessarily, the init.d script basically doesn't work. it always never does what it's meant to (e.g. stop the service) and it does so silently
[14:40] <k1l_> EdwardIII: 14.04 should use upstart scripts
[14:41] <EdwardIII> ah!
[14:41] <EdwardIII> so i should be going "service php5-fpm restart" for example?
[14:42] <k1l_> with a sudo in front, yes
[14:42] <Ivoah> OerHeks: worked perfectly, thanks :D
[14:43] <OerHeks> Ivoah, great, have fun!
[14:50] <lasko> So when I run sudo commands I get "unable to resolve host" errors. And I figured out its because "127.0.1.1 <hostname>" is not in my hosts file. Is there a quick way to re-add this? I have to do this to like 100+ servers and doing "sudo vim /etc/hosts" takes quite some time to. Is there a flag that can be passed to sudo to not try and resolve?
[14:51] <tgm4883> lasko: push it out via your configuration management software?
[14:52] <lasko> *nod* I'm going to just use ansible
[14:52] <lasko> but I wasn't sure if there was a faster way
[14:52] <tgm4883> lasko: a faster way to touch 100+ servers?
[14:53] <lasko> lol just throwing darts at a board, and wanted to just get another view from someone else
[14:53] <somsip> lasko: +1 ansible in parallel mode, but OT here
[14:54] <k1l_> i bet there is some weird sed/grep/ssh/scp stuff possible. but i guess thinking about that and test running the script will take longer
[14:54] <EdwardIII> hrm this upstart stuff...
[14:54] <EdwardIII> is proving tricky
[14:54] <EdwardIII> i can see the child daemons, and they seem to be working, but the parent/master process has disappeared
[14:54] <EdwardIII> and when i try and restart i get https://gist.github.com/EdwardIII/9d675e877ce0c86af556
[14:55] <somsip> lasko: and the 'unable to resolve host; is normally a warning (it is here on EC2 anyway). Are you sure that's causing an error?
[14:56] <ioria> EdwardIII, see post 10 in this https://i-mscp.net/index.php/Thread/6182-PHP5-FPM-Reload-on-Ubuntu-14-04-Trusty/
[14:58] <EdwardIII> ioria: interesting, thanks!
[14:58] <ioria> EdwardIII, you're welcome
[15:00] <EdwardIII> that does seem to fix a lot of weirdness
[15:04] <thibault> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1911701
[15:04] <thibault> help
[15:10] <EdwardIII> now i just have to figure out why the hell xdebug isn't debugging
[15:10] <THC> lol @ debugging the debugger
[15:11] <THC> :)
[15:11] <EdwardIII> heh yes indeed, who debugs the debugger?
[15:11] <EdwardIII> me, apparently
[15:11] <THC> is it connected?
[15:11] <EdwardIII> ugh now fpm is broken again heh
[15:12] <EdwardIII> why the hell does that happen grrr
[15:12] <THC> is it loaded in php config?
[15:12] <EdwardIII> it's become headless again - the master process has died
[15:12] <THC> xdebug module
[15:12] <EdwardIII> so when i try and reload fpm i get: reload: unrecognized service
[15:12] <EdwardIII> and restart... says it's restarted but actually i don't think it has
[15:12] <THC> is thi
[15:13] <EdwardIII> https://gist.github.com/EdwardIII/fea741e0aa0e21be7f2f
[15:15] <xpl0iter> Hi I am trying to set up multiple interfaces in ubuntu and assign public ipaddresses to both. For now the ip eth0 is pingable, but not from eth1
[15:16] <xpl0iter> Can someone please tell me what could have gone wrong?
[15:16] <hacker> ola
[15:16] <xpl0iter> I am using eth0:cfg and eth1.cfg for configuring
[15:18] <Guest2000> ola  pessoa sou novo aqui  , e em linux
[15:18] <Guest2000> alguem   pode  mim ajudar  ? ???
[15:20] <EdwardIII> THC: right, xdebug is enabled and configured correctly
[15:21] <EdwardIII> and if i tell the debugger to 'break on first line' it does, so i guess i can assume everything else is configured ok
[15:21] <THC> oh ok
[15:21] <EdwardIII> it runs twice though weirdly
[15:21] <THC> so you just have to learn how to debug then
[15:22] <Pici> !br | Guest2000
[15:23] <Fr3d3r1c> hello
[15:23] <Fr3d3r1c> is it possible to change the group of /home ?
[15:24] <Pici> Fr3d3r1c: yes, but why would you want to do that?
[15:25] <Fr3d3r1c> because i haven't the rights
[15:26] <Fr3d3r1c> i need to work in all directories in home
[15:26] <Fr3d3r1c> actually, the owner and group of /home is "root root"
[15:26] <Pici> Fr3d3r1c: You can use sudo to elevate your rights to make changes to files that you wouldn't normall be able to.
[15:26] <Fr3d3r1c> no
[15:26] <Pici> no what?
[15:27] <Fr3d3r1c> i have to edit the files since external editor
[15:27] <Fr3d3r1c> from external editor
[15:27] <a7i3n> sudo su works well...
[15:27] <Fr3d3r1c> ...
[15:27] <Fr3d3r1c> editor
[15:27] <Pici> Fr3d3r1c: You can start your editor with elevated privleges.
[15:28] <Fr3d3r1c> not console, a program
[15:28] <lehzm> god why is this flash update taking 20 minutes
[15:28] <a7i3n> gksu programname
[15:29] <a7i3n> got that ok fr3d3r1c?
[15:30] <Pici> /70/36
[15:31] <Fr3d3r1c> you don't understand
[15:31] <Fr3d3r1c> i use a program with which i connect me to ftp
[15:41] <TheMaster> TheMaster
[15:41] <fizk_> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu server 15.04 off a usb key, but the usb keyboard doesn't work once the keyboard selection page is shown
[15:42] <BluesKaj> guests, create a nick and stick with it
[15:42] <fizk_> the server is a HP dl160
[15:55] <SunnySingh> I downloaded the Ubuntu ISO file to my Windows PC
[15:55] <SunnySingh> I now need to burn that to an external hard drive to put it on my laptop
[15:56] <Traskian> Why an external hard drive?
[15:56] <SunnySingh> I don't have a USB pen
[15:56] <SunnySingh> or a disc
[15:56] <Traskian> Ah, I see.
[15:56] <EriC^^> SunnySingh: does it have an os right now?
[15:57] <SunnySingh> the laptop, EriC^^?
[15:57] <SunnySingh> It runs Windows 10- as does my PC
[15:57] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:57] <EriC^^> oh, cool
[15:58] <EriC^^> i guess it's uefi then
[15:58] <Traskian> Have you done this before Sunny?
[15:58] <SunnySingh> no, Traskian
[15:58] <Traskian> Back. Up. EVERYTHING.
[15:58] <Freddie_Mercury> Running Lubuntu 14.04 LTS here. I get this error when I try to install something I need for Minitube 2.5: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12521988/
[15:58] <Traskian> Twice.
[15:58] <EriC^^> SunnySingh: you could make a fat32 partition on the external hdd or, if you have one already just copy the iso contents in that partition and you can boot it with uefi
[15:58] <Freddie_Mercury> Any pointers on how to solve this dependency hell?
[15:59] <SunnySingh> yeah... I understood a couple of those words
[16:00] <EriC^^> SunnySingh: open the disk management in windows and check if there's a fat32 partition in it
[16:00] <giacomo> hello
[16:00] <Traskian> hello giacomo
[16:00] <EriC^^> ( in the external hdd )
[16:01] <SunnySingh> it says the file system is NTFS
[16:01] <giacomo_> hello
[16:01] <EriC^^> SunnySingh: oh, is it an empty hdd?
[16:01] <SunnySingh> no, EriC^^
[16:01] <SunnySingh> it has quite a lot of stuff on it
[16:01] <Traskian> Freddie_Mercury http://askubuntu.com/questions/551632/unable-to-install-anything-on-ubuntu-14-10-with-apt-get-says-files-list-file-for
[16:01] <Traskian> Looks like this guy had similar issues.
[16:01] <EriC^^> SunnySingh: ok, there's also grub4dos you can boot the .iso from that if you install it to the laptop i think
[16:01] <giacomo_> there are an itlian?
[16:02] <Freddie_Mercury> Traskian: Mind you, I'm on 14.04 LTS; same fix?
[16:02] <Traskian> I honestly don't know, but it's a start.
[16:02] <Freddie_Mercury> OK, let me try. brb
[16:02] <SunnySingh> no worries, EriC^^
[16:02] <Traskian> Okie doke.
[16:02] <SunnySingh> I don't think I know enough about computers to do this stuff lol
[16:03] <Traskian> Sunny, it takes a little bit of time but there's plenty of resources online that can help you through the process. Most of the issue with anything is just learning terminology.
[16:04] <EriC^^> SunnySingh: http://sourceforge.net/projects/grub4dos/
[16:04] <Freddie_Mercury> Traskian, nope, same error.
[16:04] <Traskian> Shoot.
[16:05] <EriC^^> i've never used it, but i think it is supposed to give you a grub shell and if you copy the .iso to the laptop via the external one, you can boot it
[16:05] <SunnySingh> ah it's cool- I just wanted to see what the hype was about Linux over Windows but it's not like I had to make a transition
[16:05] <SunnySingh> thanks for your help though :)
[16:05] <EriC^^> SunnySingh: this is some info about it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[16:05] <EriC^^> SunnySingh: ok :)
[16:05] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury, libqt5widgets5 and libqt5gui5 should be already installed ...
[16:06] <Freddie_Mercury> ioria: Then why does it give that error message instead of saying it's already the newest version.
[16:06] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury are you using unity ?
[16:06] <Freddie_Mercury> Like I said before:
[16:06] <Freddie_Mercury> Freddie_Mercury> Running Lubuntu 14.04 LTS here. ...
[16:06] <alig> hi
[16:06] <Freddie_Mercury> So, no. LXDE.
[16:07] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury lubuntu does not use QT
[16:07] <Freddie_Mercury> Hm, I see. See, this is something Minitube 2.5 complained about.
[16:07] <Freddie_Mercury> Since 2.4, the version I have, has some issue now with the Google API.
[16:08] <alig> why cant change bckgr > hexchat
[16:08] <Freddie_Mercury> alig: Try #hexchat ?
[16:08] <alig> ok
[16:09] <alig> * #hexchat :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[16:10] <Traskian> alig / msg Nickserv IDENTIFY (password)
[16:10] <Traskian> but without the space between / and msg
[16:10] <Traskian> *NickServ
[16:11] <Freddie_Mercury> You should run those commands in NickServ's query or in your status window/tab -- but that's off-topic here. #freenode or #hexchat would be better.
[16:12] <Freddie_Mercury> Hm, apparently Minitube 2.5 *requires* QT. ._.
[16:13] <Freddie_Mercury> Which is, for now, a no-go on Lubuntu, until they switch to QT.
[16:15] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury dpkg -l libqt5gui5  ... what i says ?
[16:15] <ioria> *it
[16:15] <Freddie_Mercury> "dpkg-query: no packages found matching libqt5gui5"
[16:15] <Traskian> back.
[16:15] <Freddie_Mercury> Sounds self-explanatory enough.
[16:16] <Freddie_Mercury> "It ain't there."
[16:17] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury apt-cache policy  libqt5gui5
[16:17] <Freddie_Mercury> Two spaces?
[16:18] <ioria> just one
[16:19] <Freddie_Mercury> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/12522118/
[16:20] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury       and apt-cache policy  apt-cache policy  libqt5widgets5
[16:20] <Mandeep_Singh> When I do Ctrl+Alt+f1 and try to log in using a normal user, it keeps
[16:20] <Mandeep_Singh> on asking for credentials again and again(login loop problem within console) but get
[16:20] <Mandeep_Singh> logged in using 'root' credentials. Then tried the 'startx' command and
[16:20] <Mandeep_Singh> the GUI appears but everything with root permissions. So we couldn't
[16:20] <Mandeep_Singh> log in using the normal user(even after creating new ones, also tried the  .Xauthority thing). Also tried
[16:20] <Mandeep_Singh> new display managers and desktop environment(after removing unity),
[16:21] <Freddie_Mercury> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/12522134/
[16:23] <ioria> !info libqt5gui5-gles trusty
[16:23] <ioria> !info libqt5gui5-gles
[16:23] <Mandeep_Singh> Hi, can someone see my problem above?
[16:23] <k1l_> Mandeep_Singh: sounds like you messed the users file permissions in his folder already with using the root account
[16:24] <k1l_> Mandeep_Singh: never ever again log in root and never ever again use startx
[16:24] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury     if yiou try to  install libqt5gui5     what happens ?
[16:24] <Mandeep_Singh> k1l_, okay. Then what can be the solution now.
[16:25] <venkat-3494> hi is there any channels related to writing makefiles??
[16:25] <k1l_> Mandeep_Singh: chown -R user:user /home/user/
[16:25] <k1l_> Mandeep_Singh: set user to your actual user name
[16:25] <Freddie_Mercury> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/12522154/
[16:26] <Freddie_Mercury> ioria, do I say "Yes"? >_>
[16:26] <Mandeep_Singh> k1l_, Is it something to do with the new user? New user should work fine.
[16:26] <Mandeep_Singh> Why don't the lighdm, gdm, kdm start
[16:27] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury   as said , lxde does not use qt.... you can try to install it ... but don't know if it will mess with it
[16:27] <k1l_> Mandeep_Singh: well, when the lightdm doesnt start its a different issue. but the login loop comes from that issue
[16:27] <Freddie_Mercury> ioria: Bah. ._.
[16:27] <Freddie_Mercury> ioria: I aborted (pressed 'n') because I'm too scared to break the system.
[16:27] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury  :(
[16:27] <Traskian> venkat-3494 #workingset
[16:28] <Freddie_Mercury> Well, this is my only functioning computer right now. :P
[16:28] <Freddie_Mercury> I don't want to have to go through hell and back to fix it, or reinstall the OS.
[16:29] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury  i see, sorry  it should be safe...  but i have never installed QT on lubuntu
[16:29] <Freddie_Mercury> ioria: Yeah.
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> Freddie_Mercury  sometimes it's easier to reinstall than to repair
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> easier and faster
[16:29] <Freddie_Mercury> MonkeyDust: Oh, I know, I just don't want to do either at the moment; I'll be starting college again soon and I've already loaded it up with the programs and files I need.
[16:29] <Freddie_Mercury> Don't want to reinstall all that over again.
[16:30] <Mandeep_Singh> k1l_, yes I got login loop a few times before. But then it was on lighdm. Now lightdm (or any other dm) even don't show up. It's loop in the console.
[16:30] <Traskian> Oh, college man eh? What are you studying if you don't mind me asking?
[16:30] <Freddie_Mercury> Engineering.
[16:30] <Freddie_Mercury> :P
[16:30] <Traskian> Nice. I study History and Sociology myself.
[16:30] <Freddie_Mercury> Neat.
[16:31] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury  this is why there is a new lxde project  that will use qt
[16:31] <Freddie_Mercury> ioria: Oh, yes, I do know that -- thing is, even when LXDE will have/already has stable new versions of QT-based DE's, Lubuntu will apparently only get it for the *next* LTS.
[16:31] <Freddie_Mercury> Which will be, what, 2 years from now iirc?
[16:31] <ioria> sorta
[16:32] <k1l_> Mandeep_Singh: you got 2 issues: one is messed up file permissions (or messed up files) in that users home. the other one might be a driver issue or something. that can be seen in dmesg or xorg.log
[16:33] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury  LXQT
[16:33] <Freddie_Mercury> Yep.
[16:33] <Freddie_Mercury> That's the name.
[16:34] <Mandeep_Singh> k1l_, actually I forgot to mention how it all started. first there got an error "running on low graphics mode". Guess what the laptop doesn't have any dedicated graphics card (nvidia or so).
[16:36] <k1l_> Mandeep_Singh: try to boot an older kernel in grub and see if that works
[16:36] <k1l_> Mandeep_Singh: but again: for the 2nd issue: see dmesg and xorg.log to see whats going wrong
[16:37] <Mandeep_Singh> k1l_, I tried booting from recovery mode from the oldest kernel that the system have. Okay checking the logs.
[16:38] <mingdao> We have some thin clients running embedded Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS. When I run "apt-get update" it outputs "W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[16:38] <mingdao> There is no "man apt-get" and "apt-get help" has nothing about locking.
[16:38] <tgm4883> mingdao: why is that file read only?
[16:38] <mingdao> Is there any way to "apt-get install rsync" on this machine?
[16:38] <mingdao> tgm4883: I have no idea.
[16:39] <tgm4883> mingdao: Can you ls -l that file
[16:39] <mingdao> tgm4883: it is 640
[16:39] <mingdao> already did
[16:39] <mingdao> 640 root:root ... and I am root
[16:40] <TBA_IT> tgm4883: I am switching from mingdao (on my LAN at home) to my work nick
[16:40] <TBA_IT> so I can cp/paste if need be
[16:40] <TBA_IT> tgm4883: I'm just trying to get some log files off for HP. These are HP t510 thin clients.
[16:41] <TBA_IT> The HP fellow suggested fire up the GUI and take screenshots.
[16:41] <TBA_IT> ;)
[16:41] <tgm4883> TBA_IT: is the partition mounted read only right now?
[16:42] <TBA_IT> tgm4883: none on / type aufs (ro,relatime,si=95947b05,noplink)  <-- mount output
[16:42] <teo_> does anyone know where can I find the source code for Broadway Server (gtk3 web backend)? Also will Broadway functionality be affected by introduction of mir in ubuntu?
[16:42] <TBA_IT> tgm4883: there are separate partitions, but /var doesn't seem to be one ... let me see if I can get the entire mount output for you
[16:43] <k1l_> teo_: MIR (when it will be released for desktop as tsable) will have gtk backend.
[16:45] <Osirus126> hello all
[16:45] <alig> tnx. did it
[16:46] <venkat-3494> hi anyone here know about makefiles??
[16:46] <Osirus126> i am having trouble with updating with sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:46] <Osirus126> i get this error <teo_> does anyone know where can I find the source code for Broadway Server (gtk3 web backend)? Also will Broadway functionality be affected by introduction of mir in ubuntu?
[16:47] <k1l_> Osirus126: can you put the log into a pastebin and sho wht link here=?
[16:47] <Osirus126> wtf thats not what i wanted to paste
[16:47] <Osirus126> lol
[16:47] <Osirus126> sude
[16:47] <Osirus126> sure
[16:47] <Osirus126> one second
[16:47] <Freddie_Mercury> ioria, so I finally took the plunge and installed libqt5gui5 and its dependencies; it apparently worked, and now Minitube is working again. Thanks! :)
[16:47] <TBA_IT> tgm4883: https://bpaste.net/show/4df6c59c3f1e
[16:48] <ioria> Freddie_Mercury  hasta la vista a la victoria ! siempre
[16:48] <Freddie_Mercury> Heh.
[16:48] <Osirus126> i am using the ubuntu mate distro for raspberry pi and it doesnt seem to have pastebin installed
[16:49] <TBA_IT> sneakernet ;)
[16:49] <Osirus126> do i install with apt-get install pastebin?
[16:49] <k1l_> Osirus126: just use the oldschool mark, copy, paste way :)
[16:49] <k1l_> !paste | Osirus126
[16:49] <Osirus126> id like to install pastebin tho
[16:49] <kflom> i trayed to abdate my computer but after i pressed the restart buttun my computer can not start again
[16:49] <k1l_> Osirus126: its pastebinit
[16:50] <Osirus126> thankyou
[16:50] <tgm4883> TBA_IT: what device is this? I would think you would need to remount / as rw
[16:51] <TBA_IT> tgm4883: It's a HP t510 thin client ... embedded Linux
[16:51] <TBA_IT> tgm4883: we use them to RDP into a TS server
[16:53] <TBA_IT> tgm4883: It's not a big deal. I'll just walk to it and use a flash disk. Was trying to rsync the files rather than walking to the back of the plant.
[16:53] <ambu>  
[16:53] <TBA_IT> tgm4883: My goal was "apt-get install rsync"  ;)
[16:53] <kflom> i updated my software from 14 to the latest and my computer culdnt restart again pls help
[16:54] <TBA_IT> tgm4883: It's running, and remounting wouldn't be prudent. Plus, it is configured to automatically reconnect so it'd just be more of a bother.
[16:54] <TBA_IT> tgm4883: Thanks for your replies.
[16:54] <Mandeep_Singh> How can I get the latest(most recent) logs of this channel?
[16:54] <kflom> hello any body interested to help
[16:54] <Osirus126> whenever i use "sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebin" it tells me command not found
[16:54] <tgm4883> Osirus126: pastebin isn't a command. pastebinit is though
[16:55] <Osirus126> and ive installed pastebinit
[16:55] <Osirus126> ok
[16:55] <k1l_> Osirus126: just use copy and paste and put it on the pastebin website
[16:55] <kflom> have a nice time
[16:55] <Osirus126> im sure ive used pastebin on my linux mint machine
[16:55] <Osirus126> il try pastebinit
[16:56] <Traskian> Well, I gotta get to class ladies and gents. Have a good one.
[16:59] <Osirus126> k1l_,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12522363/
[16:59] <Osirus126> and pastebin is a command on my linux mint machine. thats why i was getting confised
[16:59] <Osirus126> and pastebin is a command on my linux mint machine. thats why i was getting confused
[17:00] <k1l_> Osirus126: the command ist "pastebinit" not pastebin.
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> Osirus126  it's because mint is not ubuntu
[17:00] <Osirus126> yes i realize this now
[17:00] <Osirus126> lol
[17:00] <Osirus126> did you get the pastebin link?
[17:01] <k1l_> Osirus126: might be a arm specific issue. try to ask in #ubuntu-arm
[17:02] <Mandeep_Singh> I found this web page containg today's irc logs of ubuntu. http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/09/22/  But there are plenty of files. Which one contains the recent chat of this channel?
[17:03] <k1l_> Mandeep_Singh: look for the name #ubuntu
[17:05] <Mandeep_Singh> k1l_, there are 312 entries starting with the word "#ubuntu". :P
[17:05] <teward> Mandeep_Singh: the filenames are literally [channel].txt or [channel].html
[17:05] <teward> Mandeep_Singh: that being said, you are looking for #ubuntu.txt for raw text, or #ubuntu.html for prettified stuff
[17:05] <k1l_> Mandeep_Singh: not starting. look for #ubuntu.html or .txt
[17:05] <k1l_> Mandeep_Singh: the other ones are different channels
[17:06] <Mandeep_Singh> Thanks teward k1l_  found it.
[17:12] <curiousx> /quir
[17:15] <altin> when adding a new network service, where are those config files saved ?
[17:26] <samthewildone> I'm having trouble with autostart programs. I went to ask ubuntu and followed some advice but, still my start up applications are a hit or miss.
[17:26] <samthewildone> I edited in the ".config/autostart/*"
[17:26] <samthewildone> still doesn't work
[17:30] <anony> After a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04, you can press F9 during boot to see the CMD line. What can someone do in order to be shown by default? /etc/default grub.txt?
[17:31] <anony> (disregard the ".txt" old bad habbit)
[17:31] <mikubuntu> anybody have any idea how to make this work with ubuntu? http://geniatech.com/pa/u6012b.asp
[17:33] <tgm4883> anony: do you mean to see the boot process, or to see the boot menu?
[17:34] <anony> tgm4883, the boot sequence (info [OK], info [ERROR] etc)
[17:34] <tgm4883> anony: I think that is probably quiet boot that you are talking about
[17:35] <tgm4883> anony: http://askubuntu.com/questions/477821/how-can-i-permanently-remove-the-boot-option-quiet-splash
[17:36] <anony> tgm4883, yes there are two lines... GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" - I tried removing Quiet from the first line and updating grub* but didn't seem to work. LEt me check your link,.
[17:37] <anony> tgm4883, aaah, I had to remove splash as well... Thanks.
[17:38] <anony> By the way, I was wondering why "sudo gedit grub" doesn't work* while "sudo nano grub" does...
[17:40] <LtL> anony: my guess is gedit is looking for gksudo or gksu, whichever it is not sudo
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> anony  try 'sudo -e'
[17:46] <Osirus126> k1l_, check this out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/y-ppa-manager/+bug/1464440
[17:46] <ren0v0> hi, i have my router setup so that i can use "server" for example, as a domain name elsewhere on the network. However, it only sometimes works. I have the routers IP set as a DNS server in ubuntu's network config, should i be doing something else?
[17:47] <Murdoch5> I installed webmin on my server, where can I find the source code?  I want to edit one of the modules
[17:48] <tgm4883> ren0v0: that sounds correct
[17:48] <Osirus126> can someone help me with this bug?
[17:48] <Osirus126> https://bugs.launchpad.net/y-ppa-manager/+bug/1464440
[17:48] <ren0v0> tgm4883, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't :S
[17:48] <mikubuntu> anybody have any idea how to make this work with ubuntu? http://geniatech.com/pa/u6012b.asp
[17:49] <tgm4883> ren0v0: as it works on some machines and doesn't on others? Or it works sometimes on a machine, then you try it later on the same machine and it doesn't work
[17:49] <ren0v0> the later
[17:49] <ren0v0> ssh user@server  works sometimes, and not others on the same machine
[17:50] <tgm4883> ren0v0: well that's odd. When it doesn't work, are you able to do a lookup on teh server for that address?
[17:50] <Osirus126> can someone please help me with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/y-ppa-manager/+bug/1464440 i get this error every time i update or reboot
[17:50] <ren0v0> tgm4883, i just logged in using the IP, and now i can use "server"
[17:50] <ren0v0> :S
[17:50] <tgm4883> !patience | Osirus126
[17:51] <Osirus126> sorry :P
[17:51] <ren0v0> nslookup shows the IP correctly now yes, but maybe thats because i've already logged in using the IP and its in some cache or something
[17:51] <tgm4883> ren0v0: sorry, I mean are you able to query the DNS server for that address from either the host you are on, or directly on the DNS server
[17:52] <tgm4883> ren0v0: when you setup the record in DNS, did you just setup the A record, or also the AAAA record? Follow up, do you have IPv6 on your network
[17:53] <ren0v0> tgm4883, maybe i got it completely wrong, I've simple added certain static IPs to the hosts file on the router, with a name
[17:53] <ren0v0> so, there isn't bind or anything running on the router, just this setup, but it works?
[17:54] <anony> Almost forgot. Thanks for the info :)
[17:54] <tgm4883> ren0v0: uh, that's not how you add DNS entries to a router usually
[17:54] <ren0v0> tgm4883, right, but this is all i can do with this router, and was the suggested thing to do
[17:54] <ren0v0> its an ERlite
[17:55] <wfreeman> I have a kubuntu 15.04 system that has a broken KDE install; I have no panels/widgets and a black desktop. (alt-f2 to run programs still works.) Is there any way I can either 1) fix this, or 2) set Unity as the default session? (I already have Unity installed; I'm just not sure how to set it to the default desktop environment.)
[17:55] <tgm4883> ren0v0: unless the router is looking at the hosts file to serve addresses to clients, then I don't see how that would work
[17:56] <ren0v0> well i guess it must be, because it does work
[17:56] <ren0v0> and DHCP entries go here as well i believe
[17:57] <ren0v0> i mean, they are automatically added here, because i ran a command for that as well
[17:57] <tgm4883> ren0v0: well apparently it doesn't work though :P
[17:57] <ren0v0> tgm4883, seems like i need to go back to looking at the router then
[17:58] <ren0v0> probably 5% of the time it does, thats all
[17:58] <ren0v0> i was wondering if its an ubuntu setup thing
[17:58] <ren0v0> i have other DNS servers added to my network config as well as the router, could that cause an issue?
[17:58] <tgm4883> ren0v0: well I think it's just caching the address
[17:59] <tgm4883> ren0v0: are the other DNS servers yours, or external
[17:59] <ren0v0> external
[17:59] <ren0v0> do you mean ubuntu caching the address? i can't see how it know its called "server"
[18:00] <tgm4883> ren0v0: you mean after you ssh to the IP address of "server" and it communicates with it?
[18:00] <ren0v0> tgm4883, i could shutdown, start another day and would be able to ping "server" just fine
[18:01] <ren0v0> i'm pretty sure what i did on the router does work, it was a few weeks ago now so brain is a little washy lol, but "nas" and other names work as well
[18:01] <ren0v0> from all devices
[18:01] <ren0v0> saying that, if it works on mobile device i didn't set any DNS server on that, so its just using the gateway or something ?
[18:02] <tgm4883> ren0v0: it would use whatever DNS server gets pushed by DHCP
[18:02] <tgm4883> ren0v0: so a few things I would try
[18:03] <tgm4883> ren0v0: when you can't connect to it via "server" see if you can do an nslookup against the router for "server"
[18:04] <awi> list chanel
[18:04] <tgm4883> ren0v0: does you ubuntu system get it's address via dhcp?
[18:04] <ren0v0> yea address only
[18:05] <tgm4883> ren0v0: I'd also test setting your NIC to ignore ipv6 and see if that fixes it
[18:05] <ren0v0> tgm4883, so using network GUI just goto ipv6 and choose ignore ?
[18:05] <tgm4883> ren0v0: yea
[18:05] <ren0v0> ok done that
[18:05] <ren0v0> and  "nslookup server 192.168.1.1"    for when i can't resolve ?
[18:06] <tgm4883> yea
[18:06] <ren0v0> ok great, thanks!
[18:09] <Mollerz> Hey guys, I'm trying to remove Ubuntu from my Acer Aspire One laptop and resetting to factory. Having some problems though. Alt+F10 during boot isn't working and I've tried a handful of things, any suggestions?
[18:10] <ben_g> Hi.
[18:11] <ben_g> My laptop doesn't fully start up anymore. It shows the ubuntu splash screen, but instead of showing the login screen, the screen just turns off.
[18:12] <ben_g> And booting it with failsafe X shows the error message "No screens found".
[18:12] <ninjai> so I ran this command: "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background active true" and now my desktop is broken.  What do I do now?
[18:12] <ben_g> I can still acces that fullscreen terminal thing by pressing CTRL+ALT+F1.
[18:13] <Freddie_Mercury> ben_g is it something like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/296163/black-screen-on-login ?
[18:13] <vlt> Mollerz: You could run `shred` on your hard drive. This will remove EVERYTHING (and thus resetting to factory).
[18:13] <Bashing-om> Mollerz: (?) Remove rather then fix ? Any partition editor will remove the install.
[18:13] <morfin> it can be offtopic here but how stable Ubuntu Touch right now?
[18:14] <ben_g> Freddie_Mercury: not entirely. The text in that CTRL+ALT+F1 terminal thing is visible to me.
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> !touch | morfin
[18:14] <morfin> ow i did not find that channel using alis, ty
[18:15] <CyberGabber> Mollerz: Maybe this helps? ( use at own risk , make backups before use! ) http://www.question-defense.com/2010/11/23/how-to-boot-the-recovery-partition-on-a-acer-aspire-when-alt-f10-does-not-work
[18:15] <Mollerz> vlt: Wouldn't that disallow me from reinstalling Windows? Bashing-om: Remove yes, I'd like to reinstall Windows
[18:15] <ben_g> And manually running startX shows the login screen, but logging in (even using guest mode) just refreshes the login screen.
[18:15] <Mollerz> There is nothing on the computer I need, so backup isn't necessary
[18:15] <Bashing-om> ben_g: What results when attempting to boot the system in "recovery" mode - grub boot menu -> advanvced -> recovery kernel ?
[18:15] <user1_> hi
[18:16] <Mollerz> CyberGabber: Thanks I'll try that
[18:16] <vlt> Mollerz: If you insert a Windows install medium it will install a fresh system on the empty hard drive.
[18:16] <Bashing-om> Mollerz: Nope, IF you are to (RE-)install Windows. Windows will take care of wiping out 'buntu .
[18:17] <ben_g> Bashing-om: it shows some text and then a menu where I can do stuff like start with failsafe x.
[18:17] <ben_g> I already tried running boot repair from a live session, btw.
[18:18] <Bashing-om> ben_g: So far so good, so what happens if you "failsafe x". maybe all we are looking at is (RE-)installing the graphic's driver .
[18:19] <ben_g> Fatal server error: no screens found.
[18:20] <CyberGabber> Mollerz: Google on string 'how to remove ubuntu and install windows', to find lots of clear/illustrated instructions.
[18:21] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Grapjic's drier still not ruled out. As you can get a terminal (ctl+alt+F1) . says the system is sound, a problem with the X layer. We can look at the log file and get an idea of what is not taking place .
[18:22] <Bashing-om> graphic's driver*
[18:24] <kubast2> Hey ,have you ever made mtp work ?
[18:24] <ben_g> Is the log with the highest number the most recent?
[18:25] <kubast2> I never made it work on linux ,maybe on raspberry pi
[18:25] <kubast2> but never on actual desktop
[18:25] <kubast2> with os like linux mint/ubuntu
[18:25] <Freddie_Mercury> kubast2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2226702
[18:26] <Bashing-om> !tab | ben_g
[18:26] <k1l_> kubast2: mtp works since ages on ubuntu. for linux mint please ask their support
[18:26] <Freddie_Mercury> kubast2, for me, using Lubuntu 14.04 LTS and those programs, it works well.
[18:26] <Freddie_Mercury> kubast2, with all the bells and whistles; I can even use my Android smartphone as a USB tethering device.
[18:27] <somenickasd> Freddie_Mercury the wifi tethering works correctly?
[18:27] <ben_g> Bashing-om: sorry, I'll try to write your name before every response now.
[18:27] <Freddie_Mercury> Haven't tried that yet, but I will.
[18:27] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Install the tool "pastebinit" and then run ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' and pass the link back here so we can read that file .
[18:28] <Freddie_Mercury> somenickasd: Point is, mtp devices work (as that was kubast2's question).
[18:28] <somenickasd> hmm, i have not gotten that to work right with my samsung galazy tab II. i thnk it is just for the phones
[18:28] <Freddie_Mercury> Maybe.
[18:28] <somenickasd> ah ok. cool
[18:28] <kubast2> vendor[22b8] attr[2e76] 22b8:2e76 ?
[18:29] <k1l_> somenickasd: it still depends on the smartphone device on the other end. ubuntu with network-manager is capable of tethering.
[18:29] <Bashing-om> ben_g: If I am not addressed, good chance I will not see your entry . As this is a busy channel, and I am busy also else wheres .
[18:29] <k1l_> somenickasd: some manufacturers/providers block tethering on android. with cyanogenmod it works
[18:30] <ben_g> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12523605/
[18:30] <Bashing-om> ben_g: reading .
[18:31] <somenickasd> k1l_ Freddie_Mercury thanks for the infos
[18:31] <Freddie_Mercury> np
[18:31] <Guest41862> hi, i need help to install silverlight in firefox... to watch film, tv
[18:31] <somenickasd> k1l_ that certainly would make my device a lot more useful
[18:32] <kubast2> thx
[18:32] <kubast2> worked
[18:32] <Freddie_Mercury> kubast2: Excellent. :)
[18:32] <Guest41862> hmm anybody helps me ?
[18:33] <Bashing-om> ben_g: " 25.378] (**) |-->Inactive Device "intel" "" Optimus technology ? Have you been using nvidia-prime to swich graphics sets ?
[18:33] <ben_g> Bashing-om: Optimus, yes. But I think I used bumblebee to switch between graphics cards.
[18:33] <Strider> good evening
[18:34] <af_> hi
[18:34] <Guest41862> what about silverlight ?
[18:35] <Guest41862> i cant't watch tv etc... any solution (windows only ???)
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> Guest41862  i'm not sure if silverlight is still maintained
[18:35] <smellsLikeGoatSp> Hello everyone, I am having problems with ddrescue. I get " can't open input file" error. any clue?
[18:35] <genii> Guest41862: Try the pipelight PPA
[18:36] <Guest41862> i tried pipelight 5.1 and 5.0 ... and still nothing
[18:36] <Guest41862> why linux can watch tv/films on web sites where is need silverlight
[18:36] <ben_g> Bashing-om: is nvidia-prime better? If so, how do I switch to it?
[18:37] <Strider> Long Live Ubuntu ...  Hurray!   Hurray!  Hurray!!11!! :)
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> long live Strider hooray!
[18:37] <Guest41862> strider - try pinguy - more frienly
[18:38] <Strider> ehehehe thank you !
[18:38] <Strider> i wish i had switched to Ubuntu 10 years ago
[18:38] <julio> ok
[18:40] <Strider> Guest41862:  thanks for the tip
[18:40] <loa> is there any way to set niceness to proccess permanently?
[18:40] <loa> for example by proccess name?
[18:41] <loa> i want to play game and run some proccess in background, and don't want my game loose too much fps
[18:41] <Guest41862> Strider - i'm still testing, and i'm very happy to working with this distro
[18:42] <Strider> wow it sounds very promising
[18:42] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Well. yeah Nvidia-prime is now considered the better means. As to the current problem; Nvidia recommends the 352 version driver, you are trying to build the 340 driver. I think - just my thought - you should purge BumbleBee and the current Nvidia driver, install the Nvidia driver from our repo .// What returns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[18:42] <k1l_> Guest41862: Strider for other non ubuntu distros better check their support. we can only support ubuntu flavours in here
[18:43] <Strider> which things are more friendly in Pinguy than in Ubuntu ?
[18:43] <Strider> aight ty k1l_
[18:43] <Gh0stB0y> Hey I'm trying to run some basic java games and failing at it.  Minecraft doesn't give me an error but starmade managed to give me this.  SSLException: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unexpected error: java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> loa  try   renice -n 15 `pgrep [game name here]`
[18:44] <ben_g> Bashing-om: nvidia-340-updates and nvidia-340.
[18:44] <Guest41862> pinguy is a like fork ubuntu, but more friendly and offer much more than ubuntu... and of course i came from chat pinguy to you (ubuntu)
[18:44] <ben_g> Bashing-om: so I should run 'sudo apt-get purge bumblebee' ?
[18:44] <loa> MonkeyDust, alread have this, but it is not what i want
[18:44] <loa> i want something automatic
[18:45] <loa> game i run from steam
[18:45] <Guest41862> which ? for me much more give me on start (install) than ubuntu
[18:45] <loa> ah i can add my own command to steam
[18:45] <loa> i will do this
[18:45] <loa> i forgot about that feature
[18:45] <k1l_> Strider: i would not count that as a plus if users from others distros need to come to ask in #ubuntu for support because their distro doesnt offer support
[18:45] <Gh0stB0y> ^
[18:45] <Strider> ic
[18:45] <Strider> lool true k1l_
[18:46] <Strider> all beginnings are small :P
[18:46] <Guest41862> ubuntu don't offer help about plugin silverlight too..., so - for me t is the same "help"
[18:47] <Strider> well .. a plugin is usually from a third party
[18:47] <k1l_> Guest41862: please stop that ubuntu rantings and asking for pinguy support on the same time. see the pinguy support on your issue, thanks
[18:47] <Guest41862> OK - we all small, but pinguy gave me more usefull programs
[18:48] <Guest41862> kll_ .. but you can't help user's ubuntu with the same problem like me (unable to watch films with plugin silverlight)
[18:48] <Gh0stB0y> Hey I'm trying to run some basic java games and failing at it.  Minecraft doesn't give me an error but starmade managed to give me this.  SSLException: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unexpected error: java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty
[18:49] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Like this; BumbleBee is the open source project to support hybrid graphics, back when therre was no support. Nvidia has stepped up to the plate and now offers their support to us in the form of nvidia-prime to support their driver .
[18:50] <Strider> ghostboy i dunno but it sounds like some bug in the code
[18:51] <ben_g> Bashing-om: Well, I'm willing to switch, but I'd rather not do the installation without someone guiding me, I've messed up drivers in the past...
[18:51] <Bashing-om> ben_g: 340 offered is disappointing . What release are you running ? as 14.04 has the later drivers availale . I may be in a learning mode here .
[18:51] <ben_g> I'm running 14.04 LTS.
[18:51] <Pici> Gh0stB0y: which java are you using?
[18:52] <ben_g> * Bashing-om: 14.04 LTS.
[18:52] <blah-> !ubuntu
[18:52] <Gh0stB0y> Pici:  I have tried the available IcedTea from the repos and I have sinced removed that and got the available files from the Java site.
[18:52] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Think'n .. I am surprised that 352 is not offered to you .
[18:53] <Pici> Gh0stB0y: be sure that you're actually using sun java though, you may need to run through sudo update-java-alternatives
[18:53] <ben_g> Bashing-om: I always install updates when they're available though (as long as ubuntu itself asks me about it).
[18:55] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Yah, always keep the system updated . Let's verify from the system what card is installed so I can recheck. what returns ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ' ?
[18:56] <Gh0stB0y> Pici:  Tried that and all it did was spit out the basic JRE instructions.  Added -a and it said there were no alternative java installations installed
[18:57] <ben_g> Bashing-om: Intel corporation 3rd gen core processor Graphics controller.
[18:57] <ben_g> Bashing-om: iirc the nvidia card isn't connected to outputs but it streams trough the intel one.
[18:58] <Pici> Gh0stB0y: Consider using the WebUpda8 PPA, which should integrate with the alternatives system. https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java
[18:58] <ben_g> Bashing-om: I'm pretty sure the card is a 710m though.
[18:58] <Strider> i have version 15.04   .. it works like a charm
[18:59] <Strider> Thank you Ubuntu >:D<
[18:59] <Gh0stB0y> Pici:  Ok I'll see what happens
[18:59] <Gh0stB0y> thx
[18:59] <Strider> freedom at last
[19:00] <Bashing-om> ben_g: True that ^ . How about ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 3D ' . As I realy do want to know what the hardware for Nvidia is .
[19:01] <Strider> i still have to learn the terminal commands
[19:01] <Gh0stB0y> Pici:  How do I use that command?
[19:02] <ben_g> Bashing-om: Nvidia corporation 117M rev a1.
[19:02] <Pici> Gh0stB0y: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[19:02] <ben_g> Bashing-om: Is that what you need? There's still a bit more displayed.
[19:03] <Pici> Gh0stB0y: or java7, if you prefer that.  Once its done, do sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-8-oracle
[19:03] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Well, 710m is a bit aged, I can accept that the 340 version is all that is available for this card in our repos. And I would still purge BumbleBee in favor of the nvidia-prime, purge the present driver and (re-)install . Worth a shot to see what results. // GeForce 117M ?
[19:03] <Knight80> Hello everyone
[19:03] <Strider> hello knight80
[19:04] <Knight80> Does anybody know which code I should type to restart a Java class?
[19:04] <mauvehed> problem: on report something is overriding /etc/network/interfaces -- info: ubuntu 12.04, VM running in vCenter/ESXi 5.5 -- Verified: network-manager is not installed nor enabled -- suggestions of what else could be causing an overwrite?
[19:04] <Gh0stB0y> FSociety:  I didn't know TV shows could talk
[19:04] <mauvehed> s/report/reboot/
[19:05] <ben_g> Bashing-om: 117M is what the command wrote to the screen. The specs of the laptop list it as geforce 710M.
[19:05] <Knight80> I'm developing a programme in java which takes out some random numbers for the lottery
[19:06] <ben_g> Bashing-om: the laptop is about 2 years old, btw.
[19:06] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Pasetbin that last 'lspci'please, as I see no listing for a 117M at the Nvidia site .
[19:06] <Strider> knight80 cool
[19:07] <Knight80> But I don't know how to restart a class
[19:07] <Strider> hmm i dunno either
[19:07] <ben_g> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12523885/
[19:08] <Strider> perhaps new
[19:09] <ben_g> Bashing-om: is switching to nvidia-prime as simple as "sudo apt-get purge bumblebee" followed by "sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime" ?
[19:09]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[19:11] <Bashing-om> ben_g: OK, could be a number of different cards ; let's get specific ' grep "[[:space:]]1140" /usr/share/misc/pci.ids ' . Pastebin that one please .
[19:13] <Gh0stB0y> Pici:  It worked thx
[19:13] <Pici> Gh0stB0y: great to hear :)
[19:13] <ben_g> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12523947/
[19:14] <dezzzz> so i have an issue
[19:15] <genii> !details | dezzzz
[19:16] <dezzzz> initramfs got corrupted, i rebooted the pc unknowingly, booted in a live kali linux to attempt to mount the disk, ran testdisk and now my encrypted luks disk has 2mb instead of 700gb
[19:16] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Purging BumbleBee, even easier, as now when the Nvidia driver is installed nvidia-prime is automatically installed. When we get to that point we ' sudo apt-get purge bumble* ' . To also remove the config files .
[19:17] <Trioxin> I installed the ubuntu installation image to a USB drive and have been using the "Try Ubuntu" option, booting into that. If I save files and install things will they be removed on next reboot? If I want to have an install on the USB drive should I actually install ubuntu to it or can I just keep booting into it this way?
[19:17] <dezzzz> and i still cant access the ubuntu install
[19:17] <dezzzz> i just need the data
[19:17] <ben_g> Bashing-om: so if I purge bumblebee now, everything will work again?
[19:18] <baja> hi i am not able to turn on off  wi-fi
[19:18] <brothersome> Trioxin, You loose everything except the things you stored on another place in the disk and mount that part
[19:19] <mauvehed> looks like the issue was being caused by settings in vCenter (VM->Edit Settings->Options->vApp Options->Properties)
[19:19] <baja> how can i make the wi-fi work
[19:19] <dezzzz> any ideas?
[19:19] <sb_9> how to encryypt executable shell script ?
[19:19] <slambert> hi all
[19:20] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Boy I messed that one up .. took me aback 'till I saw my error . try as ' sudo update-pciids ;  grep "[[:space:]]fa33" /usr/share/misc/pci.ids ' .
[19:20] <baja> all wi-fi labels are off and i cannot manually turn wifi on in the connection manager
[19:20] <Trioxin> brothersome, what size would be the most minimal install of ubuntu desktop?
[19:20] <baja> k1l
[19:20] <alig> ifconfig wlan0 up
[19:20] <sb_9> how to encrypt executable shell script ?
[19:21] <Bashing-om> ben_g: It is no big deal to purge the Nvidia driver and have the system "autoinstall' anew .
[19:21] <brothersome> Trioxin, Ubuntu is big, what size do you want?
[19:21] <Trioxin> sb_9, I have a program for that
[19:21] <Trioxin> brothersome, it's a 16 gig flash drive.
[19:21] <sb_9> Trioxin: what program? can i see that
[19:22] <ben_g> Bashing-om: Are you sure? Installing the nvidia drivers was pretty hard to do and required a large file.
[19:22] <baja> error: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted
[19:22] <brothersome> 16 Gig USB stick? Ubuntu is not designed for that
[19:22] <Trioxin> actually nvm it's 32
[19:23] <baja> alig
[19:23] <Trioxin> surely ubuntu minimal install doesn't take up THAT much
[19:23] <Bashing-om> ben_g: This is linux. If it is hard, you are doing something wrong .
[19:23] <baja> alig
[19:23] <baja> error: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted
[19:23] <alig> sudo
[19:23] <baja> ?
[19:23] <alig> before command
[19:23] <baja> ok
[19:23] <alig> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[19:24] <Trioxin> sb_9 http://www.datsi.fi.upm.es/~frosal/
[19:24] <ben_g> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12524020/
[19:24] <a7i3n> if it's hard you are doing something fun! :)
[19:24] <brothersome> Trioxin, I run Ubuntu from my harddisk - 8 GB is sufficient with a minimal install, Intel has a very small computer with Ubuntu on it
[19:24] <baja> alig SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[19:24] <Trioxin> sb_9, it compiles your shell scripts to binary and obfuscates
[19:25] <alig> what interfaces u have ? ifconfig
[19:25] <Trioxin> sb_9, I usually run it in cygwin to compile my installation scripts
[19:25] <baja> im using studio
[19:25] <baja> creative studio
[19:25] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Well ! That do remove all doubt huh .. let's purge, clean up and re-install the graphics driver .
[19:26] <sb_9> Trioxin: is it your own code? or did you copied it from internet?
[19:26] <shudon> hi all :) where should i install new trusted ssl certificate authorities' certificates?
[19:26] <alig> 111
[19:26] <baja> ?
[19:26] <dezzz> connection went down
[19:26] <dezzz> any ideas
[19:26] <Trioxin> sb_9, the scripts I compile are my code
[19:26] <dezzz> ???
[19:26] <baja> 14.04
[19:27] <Trioxin> sb_9, I linked you to the compiler
[19:27] <brothersome> dezzz, USB stick?
[19:27] <dezzz> im using an usb stick with kali live
[19:27] <dezzz> thats how i used testdisk
[19:27] <Trioxin> oh wait it is 16gb lol my brain is all over the place today. so whatever 8 gigs install size is fine. I just want to use it for browsing and maybe a few small tools anyway
[19:27] <baja> alig
[19:27] <dezzz> ubuntu live wont work
[19:27] <brothersome> dezzz and you wlan is also a USB stick?
[19:28] <dezzz> wlan?
[19:28] <brothersome> Trioxin, USB?
[19:28] <dezzz> i got a problem with initramfs
[19:28] <alig> what return after "ifconfig" ?
[19:28] <Trioxin> brothersome, yeah
[19:29] <rauco> hello there
[19:29] <Trioxin> it's mostly just to have an encrypted OS on my thumb drive
[19:29] <Trioxin> I know there are much smaller distros
[19:29] <brothersome> Ouch - I prefer puppylinux with the newest Firefox browser - that is much more flash oriented
[19:29] <rauco> I'm trying to figure out which ubuntu release comes with python3 by default
[19:29] <Trioxin> but I don't need that much space
[19:29] <rauco> ?
[19:29] <alig> or iwconfig
[19:29] <baja> can anyone help me i am having difficulties in access wifi its turned off default
[19:30] <Trioxin> brothersome, my concern there is having full repos
[19:30] <ben_g> Bashing-om: I just purged bumblebee. Do I also have to purge the nvidia drivers?
[19:30] <sb_9> Trioxin:  I linked you to the compiler. what does mean?
[19:31] <Trioxin> sb_9 I
[19:31] <Trioxin> linked
[19:31] <Trioxin> you
[19:31] <brothersome> Trioxin, it is just the purpose of an OS, puppy is designed for running from a USB stick and can use the repository of Ubuntu
[19:31] <Trioxin> to the compiler
[19:31] <alig> had same problem butdont remember commANDS )
[19:31] <Trioxin> oh
[19:31] <alig> google wifi driver install ubuntu
[19:31] <Trioxin> brothersome thx, I also heard of a REALLY small linux distro. the name isn't coming to me
[19:32] <Bashing-om> ben_g: ' sudo apt-get purge bumble* ; sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old ; sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ; sudo nvidia-xconfig ' .
[19:32] <brothersome> Trioxin, I am the owner of puppylinux.eu but puppylinux.org and .com are the official sites
[19:33] <Trioxin> damn what was that distro. I needed it for doing a custom build
[19:33] <brothersome> For browsing and compiling it is fine, for fun/ daily use, on harddisk with powerfull computers - Ubuntu is better
[19:33] <guntbert> brothersome: Trioxin I currently fail to see what your discussion has to do with Ubuntu support
[19:34] <aliriza> hi
[19:34] <aliriza> i am new at ubuntu
[19:34] <Trioxin> brothersome, puppy uses ubuntu repos though?
[19:34] <guntbert> aliriza: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:34] <brothersome> guntbert, I know - but Ubuntu running from a flash drive is hard, perhaps we should switch the discusssion
[19:34] <Trioxin> the latest ones I presume? AMD?
[19:35] <aliriza> my cursor has problem when ubuntu is at process
[19:35] <brothersome> guntbert, I meant a USB stick
[19:35] <aliriza> it s flushing
[19:35] <aliriza> sorry, flash
[19:35] <guntbert> brothersome: there is always #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:36] <brothersome> Everybody has the ability to complain
[19:36] <Trioxin> topic nazis. whatever
[19:37] <testdrive2> hi
[19:38] <baja> can anyone help me i am having difficulties in access wifi its turned off default
[19:41] <Freddie_Mercury> baja: "By default"? Be more specific; do you mean you have to manually enable it after Ubuntu boots?
[19:41] <geoffmcc> baja: is it that it is disabled, or not installed
[19:41] <trijntje> my pc just suddenly powered down, then it rebooted a couple of times and now the fan keeps running on full all the time. what could be going on?
[19:42] <Trioxin> sb_9, one more time... http://www.datsi.fi.upm.es/~frosal/
[19:42] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: Perhaps an overheating problem?
[19:42] <EriC^^> trijntje: try top see if anything is using up the cpu
[19:43] <aliriza> my cursor is flashing, when downloading any file
[19:43] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: Follow the first three steps in "Monitoring sensors via the command line with lm-sensors" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[19:43] <trijntje> Freddie_Mercury, EriC^^ I dont think so, cpu usage is low and core temperature is around 36 degrees
[19:43] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: Then do 'sensors' in the command line, and paste output, maybe?
[19:44] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: What about GPU.
[19:44] <Freddie_Mercury> There's other components that can also produce overheating issues.
[19:44] <trijntje> Freddie_Mercury: http://pastebin.com/3s0WA6vt
[19:44] <Freddie_Mercury> (EH, try to use the pastebin in the topic for next time.)
[19:44] <trijntje> how can I find out the gpu temperature, it doesn't show in sensors
[19:45] <Anetoss> rver iris.irc.gr
[19:45] <Freddie_Mercury> Well, I was wondering, the fan you said that was always on, is that the CPU heatsink fan or the GPU.
[19:45] <Freddie_Mercury> Each has their own fan.
[19:46] <trijntje> Freddie_Mercury: I dont know, it just started
[19:46] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: What kind of GPU is it?
[19:46] <k1l_> baja: what did you do that it doesnt work anymore?
[19:47] <trijntje> Freddie_Mercury: ATI Radeon HD5670
[19:47] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: Are you using the proprietary driver? If you are, try 'aticonfig --odgt' in terminal.
[19:49] <m0etez> hi,i have a laptop with one ssd and one hdd.can i install ubuntu on the ssd et windows on the hdd ?
[19:49] <trijntje> Freddie_Mercury: temperature of the video card is 33 C
[19:49] <Freddie_Mercury> ._.
[19:49] <Freddie_Mercury> Then it isn't overheated by any means.
[19:49] <k1l_> m0etez: if they are physically 2 different devices (not one hdd with some ssd cache) yes
[19:50] <m0etez> 2 different yes
[19:50] <m0etez> so they will not interfere ?
[19:50] <k1l_> no
[19:50] <trijntje> m0etez: just install windows first
[19:50] <m0etez> ok
[19:50] <m0etez> thanks man
[19:52] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Long time no hear. Hoz it going ?
[19:52] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: Could it be that it overheats and *then* shuts down? Some mobos are configured to power off when a certain temperature threshold is reached? Ungraceful shutdowns are mostly caused by that, or by malfunctioning hardware on mobo like caps.
[19:53] <Epx998> Can anyone direct me to a HowTO for adding an ubuntu apt source to Spacewalk?
[19:53] <ben_g> Bashing-om: The ubuntu-drivers autoinstall has just finished.
[19:53] <trijntje> Freddie_Mercury: could it be a problem with the power supply? I can reproduce the problem pretty well by watching a HD vid on youtube, but playing a game on windows for an hour doesnt trigger it
[19:53] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: Holy crap.
[19:54] <darius93> is there any way to get kate 5 on ubuntu 14.04? I would compile it if the libraries existed in the repo
[19:54] <trijntje> my hypothesis is that its more connected to the power draw from the graphics card then actual heat production
[19:54] <Bashing-om> ben_g: K .. when all done, reboot and let's see the effect .
[19:54] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: That's... exactly what happened on my HP desktop that died; it had an Nvidia GPU and it also shut down ungracefully when watchin videos on YouTube.
[19:54] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: And ... it was overheated.
[19:54] <Freddie_Mercury> My problem there was that I was using the Nouveau drivers on another distro, which were crap on that card.
[19:55] <Freddie_Mercury> And overdrove it/didn't support it well.
[19:55] <cipenuk> hello
[19:55] <Freddie_Mercury> So, it was always *idling* at 85C.
[19:55] <cipenuk> any 1 good with graphics issues?
[19:56] <cipenuk> after a recent update my desktop over hangs
[19:56] <Bashing-om> Epx998: Define "spacewalk" please .
[19:56] <trijntje> Freddie_Mercury: I guess I can try to open it up and clean it out, it might have gotten dusty. I have the problem on both windows and ubuntu, so its not a driver issue
[19:56] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: Right, that seems then like a hardware-defined behavior to protect itself.
[19:57] <geoffmcc> trijntje: how old is the display adapter?
[19:57] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: WHat I would do is try to log the temperature of the GPU as you play videos and see if it starts shooting up.
[19:57] <Epx998> Bashing-om: oh dear..
[19:57] <Bashing-om> cipenuk: Propritary graphics driver ? - Have you purged and (RE-)installed the driver ?
[19:57] <trijntje> geoffmcc: pretty old I'd say, at least 5 years or so
[19:58] <cipenuk> all i know is it says i have a driver  for amd installed is there a way to find out for sure what one i have?
[19:58] <cipenuk> its a radeon hd 5450
[19:58] <ben_g> Bashing-om: My laptop fully starts now, but how can I now run a program with the dedicated gpu?
[19:59] <geoffmcc> trijntje: yeah, i have had pretty much the same issue with nvidia cards. Desktop easly replaced, but on my old laptop i resorted to placing it on top of a window fan until i got a new one
[19:59] <cipenuk> not sure how to purfge and reinstall
[19:59] <cipenuk> purge
[19:59] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: http://askubuntu.com/questions/614081/nvidia-geforce-gt-240m-running-hot-on-kubuntu-64bit
[19:59] <Pici> Epx998: spacewalk supposedly has a channel here on freenode in #spacewalk, but it doesn't look too populated. You might also be able to get an answer in #ubuntu-server
[19:59] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: It's problems like that and its symptoms ("When I start a YouTube-Video the GPU temperature raises within 5 minutes up to 106°C and Linux goes down.") that reminded me of my own issue and now yours.
[19:59] <Bashing-om> cipenuk: Yeah there are means. what release are you on ? later releeses now have better tools .
[20:00] <Freddie_Mercury> And 106 C is just nuts.
[20:00] <trijntje> geoffmcc, Freddie_Mercury the only difference is that my card sits at 33 when not in use
[20:00] <cipenuk> currently i installed  14.04 it worked fine untill i did the update software
[20:00] <m3n3chm0> hi, in Xubuntu 15.04 how can I move or adjunt in one place the WICD icon on the panel ¿?
[20:00]  * m3n3chm0 hi
[20:00] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Great .. The GUI way is from nvidia-prime . should be available in the Nvidia settings .
[20:01] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: OK -- but the way you're describing it, it's when it goes into use that its temperature possibly shoots up, till it reaches its hardware-defined limit to avoid permanent damage. The *reason* your card is doing that, I am not so sure, dust on it could be the culprit.
[20:01] <Bashing-om> ben_g: One no longer has to 'optirun' .
[20:01] <trijntje> geoffmcc, Freddie_Mercury I'm watching the temperature of the video card and I'm gonna start a youtube video. If is disconnect you'll know why ;)
[20:01] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje: Log the temperature, even if by hand.
[20:02] <Freddie_Mercury> Keep that ati command ready.
[20:02] <trijntje> i'm writing it to disk every second
[20:02] <Freddie_Mercury> I'd write it to an external drive just in case your system goes down for good (hope it doesn't).
[20:02] <Freddie_Mercury> (My HP did. ._.)
[20:02] <EriC^^> how can i use shockwave with firefox or chrome?
[20:03] <cipenuk> so should i uninstall my driver? then reinstall?
[20:03] <cipenuk> and how whould i do that?
[20:03] <Bashing-om> cipenuk: in 14.04 too see the hardware: terminal command ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ' to see what drivers the repo offers ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' .
[20:03] <ben_g> Bashing-om: I do indeed see the option to change the graphics card that is used between intel and nvidia, but it says that that setting is applied on logout.
[20:03] <Epx998> Pici: Was hoping ubuntu folk have used it, generally SysA's are familar with cross-distro package management.  Ill keep searching the interwebs.
[20:04] <ben_g> Is there no runtime solution for it anymore?
[20:04] <Pici> Epx998: good luck
[20:04] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Correct, select the GPU and then relog .. Will come back up using that GPU .
[20:05] <cipenuk> == /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.0/0000:02:00.0 ==
[20:05] <cipenuk> modalias : pci:v00001002d000068F9sv0000174Bsd0000E164bc03sc00i00
[20:05] <cipenuk> model    : Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350 Series]
[20:05] <cipenuk> vendor   : Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
[20:05] <cipenuk> driver   : fglrx - distro non-free
[20:05] <cipenuk> driver   : fglrx-updates - distro non-free
[20:05] <ben_g> Bashing-om: Thank you for helping me.
[20:06] <Bashing-om> ben_g: Hey, glad to be of assistance, Pass it own .
[20:07] <palladin2> hello
[20:07] <cipenuk> i can go into my software uodate and see 3 different options but it dont seems to help which oner i choose
[20:07] <Bashing-om> !paste | cip
[20:08] <cipenuk> ok thanks and again sorruy
[20:08] <alphalinux> hows ubuntu going
[20:08] <k1l_> alphalinux: great
[20:09] <alphalinux> kewl k1l_
[20:09] <Bashing-om> cipenuk: Can not hurt a thing to purge and RE-install a driver. What is the specific problem as is ?
[20:09] <cipenuk> ok so any ideas it only started to over hang after an update
[20:09] <geoffmcc> trijntje: now that i think of it... are you using html5 in youtube or flash?
[20:09] <cipenuk> the edge of my desktop hangs over
[20:09] <cipenuk> its liek 1/2 inch is cut off all the way around
[20:09] <geoffmcc> or is all of youtube html5 now? dont youtube much
[20:09] <trijntje_> geoffmcc: html5
[20:10] <cipenuk> how do i purge and reinstall?
[20:10] <Bashing-om> cipenuk: That to me is a resolution issue, perhaps others can advise in this respect better than I .
[20:10] <geoffmcc> trijntje_: ok, nevermind... guess thats not it
[20:10] <trijntje_> geoffmcc, Freddie_Mercury my pc rebooted after like 5 sec of watching youtube on 720p, but the temperature was stable on 34 C
[20:11] <Freddie_Mercury> o.0
[20:11] <cipenuk> it worked before my update so i was thinking it was one of my files is all i know
[20:11] <cipenuk> any way to roll back my updates/
[20:13] <cipenuk> any 1 good with graphics issues/
[20:13] <wileee> cipenuk, state the issue with the hardware for help.
[20:14] <cipenuk> i have a radeon 5450 card i have ubuntu 14.04 installed worked fine untill i did a software update now my screen hangs over my desktop
[20:16] <AaronZ800> cipenuk you probably need to update the drivers
[20:16] <cipenuk> how do i do that?
[20:16] <AaronZ800> or possibly revert depending on what was installed
[20:16] <cipenuk> is there a way to roll back my l;ast updates?
[20:17] <wileee> AaronZ800, If you know answer users, not probably here please.
[20:17] <Epx998> Where can I find the pgp for an apt source I have installed?
[20:17] <trijntje_> cipenuk: no, you cannot roll back updates easily
[20:17] <wileee> cipenuk, no roll back of updates overall, individual packages yes at times.
[20:18] <cipenuk> ok well im open to suggestion
[20:18] <cipenuk> how do i update my driver?
[20:18] <wileee> cipenuk, patience is one, free volunteer help here.
[20:18] <trijntje_> geoffmcc, Freddie_Mercury Any ideas on what could be the problem since its not overheating of my GPU?
[20:18] <cipenuk> yes for sure much appreciated
[20:19] <geoffmcc> trijntje_: what browser?
[20:19] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje_: ANother idea that occured to me; since GPU's have their own (often substantial) power requirement (wattage), it could be a malfunctioning PSU.
[20:19] <cipenuk> all i know is my desktop was fine before i did the software update
[20:20] <geoffmcc> trijntje_: the only thing that really comes to mind is hardware accelaration if using chrome, but not sure that would cause this
[20:20] <trijntje_> geoffmcc: firefox, but the crashes are not exclusive to firefox. watching HD vids in firefox is just the best way to trigger a reboot
[20:21] <geoffmcc> trijntje_: is it only hd vids. does it matter if full screen or not?
[20:21] <Bashing-om> cipenuk: As a quicky that "might" have good results; ' sudo amdconfig --initial ' . to regenerate the config file .
[20:21] <trijntje_> Freddie_Mercury: thats what I was thinking too, since the power supply is also older. But I'm not sure how to test that, or if they even reduce power output over time
[20:21] <trijntje_> geoffmcc: hd vid is most reliable way, fullscreen doesnt seem to matter
[20:22] <cipenuk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12525095/
[20:22] <cipenuk> ok did that it spit out some stuff
[20:23] <geoffmcc> trijntje_: i would still maybe disable hardware accel then in firefox and at least test it... can always turn back on if not it
[20:24] <Freddie_Mercury> Yeah, do try that. iirc that was something else I tried with my HP.
[20:24] <Freddie_Mercury> Turning off hardware acceleration, that is; still happened.
[20:24] <geoffmcc> trijntje_: im reading some outdated stuff, but some people had problems with nvidia and hardware acel
[20:24] <energizer> My computer woke from sleep last night for no reason. It wasn't the mouse. How do I find out what happened?
[20:24] <cipenuk> wow ur the greatest it worked
[20:25] <cipenuk> thank you so much
[20:25] <trijntje_> geoffmcc: I have an ATI card. Do you happen to know how to disable hardware acceleration for the video card?
[20:25] <Freddie_Mercury> geoffmcc: Heh, yes. Nvidia was my card.
[20:25] <dezzz> now can I get help? Mine is a hairy issue
[20:25] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje_: Can't you do it in the browser.
[20:25] <Bashing-om> cipenuk: Who > and what worked ?
[20:25] <wileee> !ask | dezzz
[20:25] <trijntje_> found it
[20:26] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje_: Legit.
[20:26] <alig> !patience
[20:26] <cipenuk> you  sudo amdconfig --initial
[20:26] <trijntje_> here we go again ;)
[20:26] <dezzz> initramfs was corrupted and i rebooted my pc, so i used testdisk to try to repair the partition but my data partition was repartitioned so testdisk went nuts and made it look like its 2mb instead of 750gb
[20:26] <cipenuk> once i did that i could change my resolutions
[20:26] <Bashing-om> cipenuk: :)
[20:26] <Freddie_Mercury> I'll be away for a bit removing my facial hair, will check in again in a bit. ;) Good luck, trijntje_.
[20:26] <cipenuk> thank uyo again
[20:27] <netameta> Anyone familir with http://www.osboxes.org/, is it a trusted source ?
[20:27] <cipenuk> now im going to restart my cpu to make sure it sticks brb if fails other wise thank u again
[20:28] <trijntje_> thanks Freddie_Mercury
[20:28] <netameta> I want to download a ubuntu 14.04 64 image not sure if i can trust it
[20:28] <Bashing-om> Cipri: :) .. all in how you point the finger .
[20:28] <dezzz> netameta: checksum it
[20:29] <netameta> dont know what that means dezzz
[20:29] <Bashing-om> netameta: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop .
[20:29] <k1l_> netameta: i bet they changed some stuff. but we cant know what they changed. better load a ubuntu.iso and install it manually
[20:29] <daftykins> !md5 | netameta
[20:31] <netameta> I've been trying to install ununtu 14.04 that was download for the site, the past hour an a half and its stuck on cpu something
[20:31] <guntbert> netameta: the md5-idea from dezzz wont't help in this case
[20:32] <netameta> the md5 idea wont help check if an installation is valid ?
[20:32] <dezzz> it will help check if the iso you downloaded is valid
[20:32] <m3n3chm0> i'm usinf wicd but i have to edit /etc/resolv.conf to have internet
[20:33] <wileee> netameta, what is your definition of valid?
[20:33] <guntbert> netameta: the checksums provied on the Ubuntu website are for the genuine Ubuntu ISO images
[20:33] <m3n3chm0> this file is overriten  by resolvconf
[20:33] <m3n3chm0> any clue to fix this issue on wicd ¿'
[20:33] <guntbert> *provided
[20:33] <trijntje_> geoffmcc: it looks like disabling hardware acceleration in firefox works. But what does that tell us about the underlying problem?
[20:34] <netameta> wileee, well to make sure its a good instlation really
[20:35] <netameta> whats annoying is i have a virtual box instllation that works fine, and have everything i needed set, but for some reason its some what slow, its set to 4GB or ram, and 4 cores
[20:35] <wileee> netameta, Ah, I suspected that, not the best word has multiple meanings. I would just address the actual problems you may be having one at a time.
[20:35] <trijntje_> netameta: try to give it some more video memory
[20:36] <geoffmcc> trijntje_: glad that seems to work. cant really say for sure, but it is not playing well with your adapter. still may be a driver issue
[20:36] <netameta> trijntje_, Now you want to steal my viedoe memory !!
[20:36] <geoffmcc> trijntje_: or its a failing adapter or maybe just outdated...
[20:37] <trijntje_> geoffmcc: the problem exists in both windows and ubuntu, so I don't think its a driver issue. Maybe a power supply issue?
[20:37] <wileee> netameta, If I was in a vm I would run a light desktop, I would have used the net-install lubuntu probably.
[20:37] <geoffmcc> trijntje_: i think firefox will tell you somewhere if hardware accel is even supported with adapter
[20:38] <netameta> wileee,  i am trying/have tried to run the normal ubuntu installation - from the ubuntu site
[20:38] <netameta> But it stuck on cpu stablzing something
[20:38] <Attilaxx> hi
[20:38] <k1l_> netameta: on what virt software?
[20:38] <wileee> netameta, Cool, it may just be the vid memory needed, I max it here.
[20:38] <Attilaxx> how can i mount samba share in nautilus ?
[20:38] <Attilaxx> i want to mount windows share
[20:39] <trijntje_> Attilaxx: file -> connect to server
[20:39] <geoffmcc> trijntje_: i dont use firefox, but i think you can go to about, support and then graphics and it will tell you if its supposed to be supported with your card
[20:39] <k1l_> Attilaxx: just press on network search on the left bookmarks site
[20:39] <Attilaxx> i know
[20:39] <Attilaxx> it cant finds
[20:39] <Attilaxx> anything
[20:39] <Attilaxx> btw i'M using fedora
[20:39] <Attilaxx> but i cant connect to the fedora irc idk why
[20:40] <k1l_> Attilaxx: then please ask the fedora guys what they changed that it doesnt work
[20:40] <netameta> k1l_, vmware workstation
[20:40] <k1l_> Attilaxx: ask in #freenode for help with this network
[20:40] <Attilaxx> oh okay
[20:40] <Attilaxx> thans
[20:42] <trijntje_> geoffmcc: as I see it firefox is just a symptom of the underlying problem. A userspace program shouldn't be allow to crash even the X server or ubuntu, let alone do a cold reboot of the whole system
[20:42] <trijntje_> from both ubuntu and windows
[20:43] <netameta> Could it be that vmware is faster then virtual box ?
[20:43] <k1l_> most beginners best start with virtualbox
[20:44] <daftykins> netameta: always felt so in my experience, but then i have old hardware :>
[20:45] <orlando_> *quit
[20:45] <netameta> k1l_, i have an image of VB
[20:45] <netameta> but its so slow, to the point typing react about 2 secs after i type
[20:45] <netameta> Thats unworkable
[20:45] <netameta> Thats why i want to try vmware
[20:46] <k1l_> netameta: are you sure you have powerfull hardware to virtualise and are sure to give enough hardware to the virt. guest?
[20:46] <geoffmcc> trijntje_: yeah, i heard of it locking up system, but not rebooting it... cant really say why its able to do that. maybe the logs will have some info?
[20:46] <netameta> I am not sure about Gcard, but i gave it 4gb or ram, and 4 cores, 20gb of disc space
[20:47] <Freddie_Mercury> geoffmcc: I thought logs existed for things that shut down the system gracefully?
[20:47] <Freddie_Mercury> As in, issuing the shutdown command.
[20:47] <Freddie_Mercury> This is a cold shutdown.
[20:47] <Freddie_Mercury> Like, immediate powerdown.
[20:47] <netameta> k1l_, i dont think i can increase the size of storage
[20:48] <k1l_> netameta: storage is enough for a basic install.
[20:48] <netameta> it was on 1 mb video memory
[20:49] <netameta> i increased it to 60 now
[20:49] <netameta> will check
[20:49] <k1l_> netameta: be sure to check the right cpu settings in the vbox setup for that guest. and again: try a original ubuntu.iso install instead of non-original ones where no one knows whats changed
[20:49] <k1l_> netameta: give it a lot more vram
[20:49] <netameta> I only used the original ubuntu installation
[20:49] <netameta> will see about vram
[20:50] <geoffmcc> Freddie_Mercury: no errors should be logged.. might be in kern.log
[20:50] <netameta> k1l_, vram - video ram ?
[20:50] <k1l_> netameta: yes
[20:50] <Freddie_Mercury> geoffmcc; could be.
[20:50] <netameta> k1l_, well i only have 128
[20:50] <netameta> i gave it 60
[20:51] <k1l_> ok
[20:51] <k1l_> 1mb was much to low
[20:52] <netameta> ok restarting to check
[20:52] <netameta> wait - managed to get the vm ware to install the original
[20:54] <netameta> k1l_, Ah wow that did it
[20:54] <netameta> vram, and cpus
[20:54] <netameta> works like a charm now
[20:54] <netameta> no need to reset the vmware
[20:55] <geoffmcc> Freddie_Mercury: sorry not kern.log.. i meant syslog and possibly dmesg
[20:55] <Freddie_Mercury> Hm,
[20:55] <Freddie_Mercury> If it's a PSU malfunctioning, I wonder what those logs would even have.
[20:55] <Freddie_Mercury> Other than just mysteriously stoppin.
[20:55] <Freddie_Mercury> g
[20:57] <netameta> k1l_, trijntje_  and wileee , Thanks for help
[20:58] <VRANGEL> JOIN #7THGUARD
[20:58] <trijntje_> I'll see if I still have another PSU somewhere, at least it doesn't crash on youtube anymore sinc I've disabled hardware acceleration. Thanks geoffmcc and Freddie_Mercury for the help
[20:59] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje_: Sure; though it shouldn't be happening at all, even with hardware accel. enabled.
[21:00] <TJ-> trijntje_: Sounds like a dodgy VRM or PSU capacitor
[21:00] <Copernicus22>  acpi pcc probe failed    after upgrade to ubuntu 15.04 :(
[21:00] <Freddie_Mercury> TJ-: Yep called it before; caps often have those issues.
[21:01] <trijntje_> Freddie_Mercury: true, i'll have to figure out whats causing it before the cold reboots corrupt my harddisk
[21:01] <mcphail> Copernicus22: ignore it
[21:01] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje_: Yeah, it's why I said to log to an external disk before, because there's only so many times the system will survive that.
[21:01] <trijntje_> TJ-: So if its a PSU capacitor I'll need a new power supply, but if its a VRM i'll need a whole new motherboard?
[21:01] <TJ-> Freddie_Mercury: There seems to be a renewed 'wave' of failures again
[21:02] <Freddie_Mercury> TJ-: Perhaps it's due to new outsourcing, reduction of standards, etc.
[21:02] <TJ-> trijntje_: Ha! No... spend maybe £1.20 on some new quality capacitors and replace the failed caps.
[21:02] <mcphail> Copernicus22: the message is simply spam from the 3.19 kernel
[21:02] <Copernicus22> ok
[21:02] <Freddie_Mercury> iirc, to see which are the failed caps you'll need to see which ones are bulging.
[21:02] <Freddie_Mercury> But that's more of a ##hardware issue.
[21:04] <TJ-> Freddie_Mercury: bulging tops due to gassing, or signs of leakage around the pins on the PCB
[21:04] <Freddie_Mercury> Yeah, the leakage of the dielectric/insulating material is another hallmark.
[21:05] <daftykins> non solid caps, if in use
[21:08] <trijntje_> TJ-: thanks for the advice, i'll have a look inside the case to see if there are any obvious problems with capacitors
[21:09] <TJ-> trijntje_: if you're not familiar with the signs, there are lots of great photo resources easily found of suspect caps
[21:10] <ryan_461>  
[21:14] <trijntje_> TJ-: I'll google around a bit, since I have no experience with this. How risky would it be to keep using the PC for a few days? I have backups of all my data, but I dont want to fry any other component of my pc
[21:17] <Freddie_Mercury> trijntje_: If videos are the only trigger, I'd avoid that -- possibly anything else that uses the GPU intensively. Perhaps try to disable the GPU for now and only use the CPU's onboard graphics?
[21:18] <wh0ami> hi guys
[21:18] <Freddie_Mercury> Hi.
[21:18] <wh0ami> how can i see my ubuntu server version?
[21:19] <Freddie_Mercury> wh0ami: 'cat /etc/*-release'
[21:19] <zykotick9> wh0ami: "lsb_release -a" is one method
[21:19] <wh0ami> thx Freddie_Mercury zykotick9
[21:19] <Freddie_Mercury> np
[21:22] <TJ-> trijntje_: hard to say. usually it'll just refuse to start at some point as the caps dry out, but it may only affect high-power demand. Remember it may not be capacitors, but right now its the most obvious suspcet.
[21:23] <Freddie_Mercury> TJ-: "usually it'll just refuse to start at some point as the caps dry out" ._. I now suspect that's what happened to my HP.
[21:23] <Freddie_Mercury> It just died and now refuses to boot.
[21:24] <TJ-> Freddie_Mercury: Usually it can be jump-started by pre-warming them in an emergency :)
[21:25] <trijntje_> I'll just try to prevent high load untill I have a chance to look more carfully, thanks again everone who helped me. Good night!
[21:32] <ubuntu770> Hi
[21:33] <ubuntu770> Че как
[21:33] <k1l_> !ru | ubuntu770
[21:34] <ubuntu770> I che eto
[21:35] <Geo> Hi, with fsck, what does 'exited with signal 9' mean?
[21:37] <Twisted> I am trying to setup some routing for two interfaces. I currently have them responding based on the interface it is received. The next step is setting it up to use a specific interface for internet traffic and the other interface for internal traffic.
[21:37] <somenickasd> Geo my thought is that it recieved signal 9 which is SIGKILL from somewhere and attempted to not abort and instead proceed with the fsck
[21:38] <Twisted> Although I have a routing rule and route for the internal it doesn't seem to be following it. Instead everything goes out the interface that is associated with the default GW
[21:38] <Geo> I cant think of any reason it would receive one, if its an actual SIGKILL...
[21:40] <somenickasd> Geo yeah it was just an hypothesis, not sure it's relevant
[21:40] <somenickasd> my other thought ofc is that it exited and set sgkill to something
[21:40] <somenickasd> sent *
[21:41] <daftykins> Twisted: ##networking is more relevant
[21:42] <Twisted> thanks
[21:43] <TJ-> Twisted: you need policy based routing
[21:45] <Twisted> i'm using policy routing.
[21:45] <Twisted> i added a table and set each interface to the respective table
[21:47] <TJ-> Twisted: If the 2 interfaces are connected to different networks then the main routing table is sufficient
[21:48] <Twisted> they're on the same network
[21:48] <TJ-> Twisted: so you want the default route to leave on, say, eth0, and internal LAN traffic to leave on eth1 ?
[21:49] <Twisted> basically yes
[21:49] <TJ-> Twisted: are both interfaces in the same sub-net?
[21:49] <Twisted> yes
[21:50] <daftykins> that sounds like a mistake
[21:50] <TJ-> Twisted: That is going to cause problems due to ARP; I'll let catphish tell you :)
[21:50] <Twisted> thanks
[21:53] <sofian> hmm, speaking of networks and subnets, anyone knows how can i easily set up a virtual network between my qemu vm and host ?
[21:54] <daftykins> i'd bet that's the kind of thing with tonnes of guides online
[21:54] <sofian> sure
[21:54] <daftykins> it also still fits under the category of being more relevant to ##networking :)
[21:54] <sofian> actually my setting is much more complex currently, i think i am able to find myself this one :)
[21:55] <daftykins> yay
[22:20] <Geo> so. the theory is that the disk suffered some physical damage to the platters during a power loss. I've lost that data (input/output errors when trying to open some dirs). I'd like to continue using the disk, but prevent future writes to these apparently damaged areas. How can I tell the disk to not write to where its having issues?
[22:21] <TJ-> Geo: badblocks, but if the surface is damaged that is likely to spread due to the very fine tolerences involved.
[22:22] <Geo> ok
[22:22] <Geo> oh!
[22:22] <Geo> syslog says fsck was killed due to 'out of memory'
[22:22] <Geo> can I fix that somehow?
[22:23] <TJ-> Geo: replace the disk :)
[22:24] <TJ-> Geo: if there is physical damage it is likely there are particles floating about. At any time they could get trapped between heads and platter and cause more damage
[22:25] <Geo> TJ-: if there is physical damage.
[22:25] <Geo> so, re: fsck whcih can help me determine... how can I prevent that out of memory issue?
[22:26] <TJ-> Geo: if fsck is running out of memory something pretty serious is wrong with the disk
[22:26] <Geo> how would that be related to the status of the disk?
[22:28] <TJ-> Geo: if the disk is returning unexpected errors in data it may confuse fsck. Otherwise, there's something else wrong with the system. Maybe fsck executable is corrupted
[22:30] <Geo> TJ-: so memory isn't correlated to that?
[22:32] <daftykins> Geo: share a sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[22:39] <noahmg123> Does anyone have any experience with JACK? I am completely new to it and don't know the first thing when it comes to music making in linux. Can someone point me to a tutorial for complete beginners. All the ones I've found assume I know things that I don't.
[22:40] <daftykins> we don't know what you're runnin
[22:40] <daftykins> g
[22:40] <noahmg123> Ubuntu 15.04
[22:41] <nug700> I installed libvirt library 1.2.12 using apt-get install. This version is out of date, so I downloaded a tarball of the latest. How do I install it?
[22:41] <nug700> properly
[22:43] <wileee> nug700, only supported here as an only option generally.
[22:43] <nug700> what?
[22:44] <wileee> 3rd party is your issue, not the channels
[22:44] <nug700> I just want general instructions on installing tarballs
[22:44] <daftykins> the main advice is: don't.
[22:44] <daftykins> if you're finding software that way, you're doing it wrong :)
[22:45] <nug700> I have the software installed, but it is out of date
[22:45] <nug700> The update version is not availible via apt-get
[22:45] <daftykins> right, so you either have to look for a PPA... or then you can pursue the current angle
[22:45] <daftykins> but you don't go straight to source :)
[22:45] <somenickasd> yeah if you are nto using ap-get chances are good that it will lead to breakage
[22:45] <mcphail> nug700: a tarball is just a bundle of files. There is no "generic" way to install. It may be a case of "./configure && make && sudo make install" or it may be something else completely
[22:47] <nug700> https://libvirt.org/compiling.html
[22:47] <nug700> I have this to go off of
[22:47] <mcphail> nug700: install support should come from whoever created the tarball, but expect things to break
[22:47] <wyoung> libvirt <3
[22:47] <daftykins> definitely purge the packages first
[22:47] <barfod> if you really have to use your own compiled software then isntall it to /home/$USER/bin or /opt
[22:48] <barfod> and confine the run path of the program. it's complex and outside of the scope of this channel's /topic
[22:48] <barfod> though myself and others can probably help on #linux if you like, that is kind of what we do there
[22:48] <daftykins> PPAs are still a more sane approach, everyones neglecting to mention their importance
[22:49] <nug700> curious how the apt-get version becomes 9 months of out date when the newest version is only 20 days old
[22:49] <Bashing-om> !latest
[22:50] <daftykins> because people need to package software
[22:50] <daftykins> it doesn't put itself into OSs automagically ;)
[22:50] <pbx> and ubuntu is relatively conservative in this regard.
[22:50] <barfod> (this is why "we" need _you_) become a servant of free software today and packages things
[22:50] <nug700> then what is the best way to get this safely installed?
[22:51] <daftykins> nug700: A PPA like i said 3 times!
[22:51] <daftykins> for the love of tux.
[22:52] <badboy17> hi
[22:53] <badboy17> hi
[22:53] <badboy17> is anyone here?
[22:53] <daftykins> yes, we saw you :) ask a question if you have one
[22:53] <badboy17> there is 1810 user
[22:54] <daftykins> probably
[22:54] <badboy17> why no one talking
[22:54] <daftykins> because it's a support channel, not a chat channel
[22:54] <badboy17> oh
[22:54] <daftykins> !ot
[22:54] <badboy17> can i take some help for ubuntu?
[22:54] <daftykins> you have to ask a support question first
[22:55] <badboy17> like what?
[22:55] <daftykins> well if you don't have one then you don't need to be here.
[22:55] <badboy17> i guess i have
[22:55] <badboy17> i have windows and ubuntu on my pc
[22:55] <badboy17> but in the GRUB i can't see the windows on list
[22:56] <badboy17> there's just ubuntu
[22:56] <zyrox> Is the Meizu MX4 really out of stock? Anyone know if there is other sellers?
[22:56] <badboy17> how can i fix it?
[22:56] <daftykins> first confirm you have a Windows version installed in either Legacy or EFI mode... then check which mode Ubuntu is installed in
[22:57] <daftykins> they must match
[22:57] <daftykins> zyrox: #ubuntu-touch for the phone talk, off topic here
[22:57] <badboy17> how can i look
[22:57] <daftykins> !efi | badboy17
[22:57] <zyrox> daftykins, thanks
[23:03] <dtaz> how do I get problem with software fixed if author doesn't reply?
[23:03] <daftykins> you don't
[23:03] <daftykins> unless you get the source and learn to work on it yourself :)
[23:04] <dtaz> so I have to stay using windows.. ?
[23:04] <daftykins> well, first off you have to realise that i have _NO_ idea what you're talking about, because you haven't said :)
[23:04] <dtaz> 95% of people don't have the time/knowledge to fix to fix it themselves
[23:05] <daftykins> tell me something i don't know :)
[23:05] <dtaz> *
[23:05] <TJ-> !bugs |  dtaz
[23:05] <jcstarken> question, of late I believe I have ubuntu running better than mint. I am getting a galaxy tablet 10.1 2014 will ubuntu run good on it or what channel do I need for this question thank you
[23:06] <pankid> so my /tmp directory is full, but my root directory has tons of space. df only shows a root partition. Is there some way to control the allowed size of the /tmp directory other than having another partition?
[23:07] <wileee> jcstarken, I would run the hardware and computer against ubuntu on the net if you want to actually know.
[23:07] <jcstarken> wileee: thank you
[23:08] <TJ-> pankid: Does 'df' show /tmp as a tmpfs file-system?
[23:08] <dtaz> so thats the reason when you buy some hardware there is no included linux software etc..   linux too complicated/not enough knowledge out there
[23:08] <pankid> TJ-: no, wierd thing is also, we have a raid which is no longer showing up in df, but does show up in lsblk and is definitly mounted. I guess this systems drive filled up sometime overnight.
[23:09] <TJ-> pankid: try "grep tmpfs /proc/mounts"
[23:10] <TJ-> pankid: If /tmp/ really is part of the root file-system, and that file-system shows plenty of free space, have you also checked whether it has free inodes too? "df --inodes"
[23:10] <pankid> TJ-: yeah, tghat shows /tmp  overflow /tmp tmpfs rw,relatime,size=1024k 0 0
[23:11] <pankid> TJ-: I also checked the inodes, and there is plenty of free space
[23:11] <TJ-> pankid: ah, there you go, size=1MB
[23:11] <TJ-> pankid: is there an entry in /etc/fstab for it?
[23:11] <pankid> strange that it is not showing up in df though
[23:12] <pankid> TJ-: nothing in /etc/fstab besides /proc, /, swap, raid mount thing, and a backup drive
[23:12] <daftykins> dtaz: sorry don't understand you at all
[23:12] <TJ-> pankid: maybe there's a shell alias or function for 'df' that is using some additional command-line options?
[23:13] <TJ-> pankid: what Ubuntu release is it?
[23:13] <pankid> 12.04
[23:13] <TJ-> pankid: blimey! I was about to 'blame' systemd :)
[23:13] <pankid> TJ-: it used to give me every mountpoint until today
[23:13] <pankid> lol
[23:15] <TJ-> pankid: Hmmm; first thing I'd do is check whether there have been some recent package upgrades that could affect system libraries
[23:16] <pankid> Jenkins and java
[23:16] <pankid> dont seem like either of those would cause any issue with df
[23:20] <dtaz> daffykins: I thought 'linux' would have progressed a little better than it has.. thought more people would use it.   If I want to use some hardware.. there is only Win/MacOS app included..  people know how to program in Windows/RAD app.. but not enough knowledge for linux.. APIs etc.. I can program things in Windows.. but I haven't got a clue under linux
[23:20] <TJ-> pankid: No; I was thinking libc.
[23:21] <TJ-> pankid: Check the logs for indications of problems in the last 24 hours
[23:24] <TJ-> pankid: the tmpfs is created by "/etc/init/mounted-tmp.conf" if there is less than 1MB free space on the root file-system, so you have problems
[23:26] <pankid> TJ-: oh, so that was probably done this latest boot when the drive was full. After it was cleared it is still like that. So we need to do another reboot. Wow you are super helpful. Never knew that about tmpfs
[23:27] <fantasma> oi
[23:27] <fantasma> ola
[23:38] <quaesitor> I tried to boot from my linux live cd on a vaio. I  set boot priority in bios to boot from optical drive first. but instead it booted from the harddrive.
[23:39] <tincatdog> quaesitor: how'd you make the disc. On Windows.
[23:39] <bazhang> what version of ubuntu quaesitor
[23:40] <tincatdog> bazhang: does the version matter till we find out how the disc was made
[23:40] <bazhang> tincatdog, ubuntu not fitting on a cd, thats why
[23:40] <Guest55469> Hello! I need help with my installation of Ubuntu alongside Windows 10. Does anyone have any experience in dealing with such things?
[23:41] <quaesitor> 14.04.2 desktop
[23:41] <tincatdog> quaesitor: did you use a DVD
[23:41] <bazhang> quaesitor, did you mean live usb, or did you extract it onto the cd
[23:42] <quaesitor> I made the disk by iso burning it with an external disk writer attached to a mac os x 10.6.8
[23:42] <tincatdog> quaesitor: is it on a DVD or CD
[23:42] <bazhang> quaesitor, did you md5 the iso prior to burning
[23:42] <quaesitor> dvd-r
[23:43] <quaesitor> what does it mean to md5?
[23:43] <bazhang> !md5 | quaesitor
[23:43] <Guest55469> Would anyone please help me install Ubuntu?
[23:43] <bazhang> !dualboot | cluelesspleb
[23:44] <bazhang> read the link above cluelesspleb
[23:44] <cluelesspleb> bazhang thank you
[23:44] <tincatdog> quaesitor: this time boot tapping F12 key. Then it will bring up a bios boot menu.
[23:44] <Ben64> not necessarily f12
[23:44] <bazhang> he should checksum the iso
[23:44] <tincatdog> Ben64: let's try easy first.
[23:44] <quaesitor> f2 is what brings the bios menu up on my windows computer
[23:44] <dani> hey guys
[23:44] <dani> hi
[23:45] <daftykins> dani: yes hi :P
[23:45] <dani> what are you talkni about in here ?
[23:45] <tincatdog> quaesitor: f2 may bring up bios. But usually F12 brings up every bootable device in a menu.
[23:46] <bazhang> ubuntu support dani
[23:46] <dani> aha ok
[23:46] <bazhang> chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic dani
[23:47] <mattsl> I just noticed that in the file browsing window that pops up to upload files to a web page in Google Chrome, that I can't do anything with the files. Is there something I can do to allow things like move, copy, rename within that window like I can do in Windows?
[23:47] <Ben64> mattsl: what "file browsing window that pops up to upload files to a web page in Google Chrome" ?????
[23:48] <mattsl> I.e. when I want to upload an attachment to an email or a file to a website
[23:48] <mattsl> The window that pops up that lets you choose the file
[23:49] <Ben64> well that is for selecting a file, not copying and stuff
[23:49] <tincatdog> mattsl: if you have file perrmission you can.
[23:50] <mattsl> Ben64: Right, but in MS Windows, you can do all the normal file manipulation there. For example, I want to download a file, then rename it before I email it to someone
[23:50] <tincatdog> mattsl: are you doing this to files in your home folder.
[23:50] <netlar> Wow Arch is way too tough
[23:50] <mattsl> Yes
[23:50] <mattsl> tincatdog: I don't have any options to do anything other than choose the file to upload
[23:50] <netlar> Too heavy of a price to pay for getting current software
[23:51] <netlar> Should be call BrokenArch
[23:51] <fantasma> ola
[23:51] <mattsl> Right clicking gives the options "Add to bookmarks, Show hidden files, Show size column"
[23:51] <fantasma> brasil
[23:51] <tincatdog> mattsl: then it's using CHROME file manager not ubuntus.
[23:51] <bazhang> !br
[23:52] <bazhang> fantasma, ^
[23:52] <tincatdog> quaesitor: anywhere yet
[23:52] <netlar> Thank goodness for Ubuntu
[23:52] <mattsl> tincatdog: Exactly. Can I change that?
[23:52] <netlar> And thank goodness it only happened in Virtual Box
[23:52] <Ben64> mattsl: use a different desktop/file manager?
[23:52] <quaesitor> I can't check the md5 on windows cause the windows computer has a bad case of bsod
[23:53] <Ben64> mattsl: or just rename stuff in your file manager before uploading
[23:53] <quaesitor> anyway I can check on my mac?
[23:53] <Ben64> quaesitor: yes
[23:53] <bazhang> so what computer are you online with now
[23:53] <quaesitor> the mac
[23:53] <mattsl> Ben64: Changing my desktop will cause Chrome to stop using it's own file browser?
[23:54] <bazhang> !hashes
[23:54] <Ben64> mattsl: chrome isn't using its own
[23:54] <netlar> It is learning OS, no way should it be a on a production box
[23:54] <bazhang> netlar, more of an #ubuntu-offtopic chat thing, thanks
[23:54] <quaesitor> fyi, it is the mac that gave me the unreadable disk msg.
[23:55] <mattsl> Ben64: Ok. Seems weird that it's offering to add bookmarks and giving no normal right click options, I figured tincatdog was right...
[23:55] <netlar> ok sorry, just needed to blow that off, done. and done with arch
[23:57] <mattsl> Ben64: You're saying that I need to change my system file manager?
[23:58] <Ben64> mattsl: yep if you really need to rename stuff in a browser window