[01:08] <xubuntu124> Hi i have a HP pavilion dv2000 I install xubuntu, but i can't connect via wifi
[11:24] <knob> Good morning all! =)
[11:25] <cfhowlett> timezones = morning for you but not for all.
[11:25] <cfhowlett> "greetings!"   :)  is always good
[11:28] <knob> he... true that
[11:28] <knob> Yet I'm just pumped in the mornings.... so I always blast in with a hearty GOOD MORNIGN!  =)
[11:28] <knob> Yet it's all good!    Sometimes I go for the  morning/afternoon/evening   lol
[11:28] <knob> How you doing cfhowlett ?  How's it going over there?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> no complaints.
[11:29] <knob> Good stuff then!   I'm starting the day at the office... some paper work.  Let see if we don't get any fires today.
[12:08] <knob> Hey cfhowlett and others, got a n00b question.   Years ago, Ubuntu used init.   I believe in 8.xx they changed to upstart.
[12:09] <knob> Is it changing now to systemd?
[12:09] <cfhowlett> I know systemd is coming but don't know anything about "init".  ask #ubuntu?
[12:10] <knob> Ok.  Just asking because I am going through some LPIC material (for a Linux Certification).  And they're mentioning the move from  init to upstart... yet I don't know if systemd follows upstart.  The material I have is "dated".
[12:11] <cfhowlett> knob, right.  ask the other channel.  most of them know WAY more than I do.
[12:12] <knob> Ok ok.  Thanks! =)
[12:17] <knob> cfhowlett, I found this... which seems to indicate that yes, it was  init --> upstart --> systemd    http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5877/what-are-the-pros-cons-of-upstart-and-systemd
[12:17] <cfhowlett> knob, OK.  (still exceeds my understanding).
[12:18] <knob> cfhowlett, cool.  Just wanted to share.   I am forever a linux/bsd n00b
[12:18] <knob> =)
[12:18] <cfhowlett> lol
[13:00] <IceyEC> so, I'm having a strange issue; Macbook Pro retina 13", touchpad worked fine originally, setup touchegg on it to handle multitouch gestures, touchpad still worked; this morning touchpad will let me click, and multitouch gestures work but I can't get it to move the cursor
[13:06] <knob> odd
[13:06] <IceyEC> I've tried resetting the X settings for the input
[13:07] <IceyEC> I'm really getting to my wit's end, over an hour debugging this so far with no end in sight :(
[13:07] <IceyEC> fortunately external mouse works just fine
[13:07] <IceyEC> the strangest thing to me is that the multitouch gestures and click work fine
[13:08] <knome> IceyEC, the strangest thing is that you are expecting macs are supported :)
[13:08] <IceyEC> heh, it's good hardware and I'd rather have Xubuntu that OSX on it
[13:08] <IceyEC> :)
[13:08] <knome> sure
[13:09] <knome> anyway, traditionally xubuntu hasn't done much for hardware support
[13:09] <knome> that's also why we don't promise support for this and that
[13:09] <IceyEC> yeah, the annoying thing is that it _did_ work before
[13:09] <IceyEC> :(
[13:09] <knome> you might want to ask #ubuntu and/or other people who run (x)ubuntu on macs
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !mac | IceyEC
[13:10] <knome> ^ those might help, but i don't know if they have a lot of information about the newer systems
[13:10] <knome> (tbh looks like they don't, and new hardware is new hardware)
[13:13] <IceyEC> well thanks, I'll keep digging
[13:13] <IceyEC> i'm wondering if it's actually a mac issue or a touchpad setting somewhere disaling mouse movement from the touchpad
[13:13] <cfhowlett> IceyEC, assuming a new kernel in that update you mentioned, perhaps boot an older kernel??
[13:14] <IceyEC> well, when I say it worked before, I installed xubuntu on this laptop on Sunday
[13:14] <IceyEC> so it's all fairly fresh
[13:14] <cfhowlett> and if that works, you might need to reinitialize a driver or 2 with dkms.  I discovered my vbox drivers didn't always autoupdate.
[13:14] <IceyEC> I _may_ just install clean again but I'd really rather not
[13:15] <cfhowlett> IceyEC, dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:15] <cfhowlett> that'll return a url.  paste here
[13:15] <IceyEC> http://termbin.com/y0ke
[13:16] <cfhowlett> IceyEC, see the new kernel?
[13:16] <IceyEC> 3.19.0-28?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> yep
[13:18] <IceyEC> so, I'm assuming I should try booting with the 0-25 kernel and see if it works
[13:19] <cfhowlett> so: reboot, choose the older kernel and test
[13:20] <IceyEC> k, off to try that
[13:23] <medicijnman> does anyone know how i can change the background image in xfce4-terminal with a command rather then edit->preferences->background?
[13:23] <medicijnman> man xfce4-terminal does not help me either
[13:23] <IceyEC> old kernel didn't help
[13:24] <IceyEC> besides not working with my wifi card ;-)
[13:24] <koegs> medicijnman: you have to change the config-file
[13:24] <cfhowlett> IceyEC, arrrr.  sorry.  no more ideas.
[13:24] <IceyEC> alright, thanks
[13:25] <medicijnman> koegs: here?  ${XDG_CONFIG_DIRS}/xfce4/terminal/terminalrc
[13:25] <medicijnman> that file does not seem to exists. should i create it?
[13:25] <koegs> medicijnman: you have to create it
[13:26] <koegs> it will only be there if you have changed xfce4-terminal settings via preferences
[13:26] <IceyEC> so, intereating tidbit, in the mouse and touchpad settings page, the option for touchpad is gone
[13:26] <medicijnman> koegs: ahh i have found the file. but i can't see the var=value for the background image i have set via preferences
[13:28] <koegs> medicijnman: BackgroundImageFile=
[13:28] <koegs> and BackgroundMode
[13:29] <medicijnman> koegs: just BackgroundMode ? without = value?
[13:29] <koegs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12521072/
[13:31] <IceyEC> I can see the setitngs in the settings editor but not in the regular mouse and touchpad settings
[13:32] <IceyEC> looks kind of like http://askubuntu.com/questions/661036/xubuntu-14-04-options-missing-from-mouse-and-touchpad-control-panel
[13:34] <medicijnman> koegs: okay. this is my file http://paste.ubuntu.com/12521087/.
[13:34] <medicijnman> if i open a terminal it does not seem to have any effect. logout + login does not seem to have any effect either
[13:35] <medicijnman> koegs: the image does exist
[13:39] <medicijnman> koegs: i rebooted the machine but still no background image
[13:41] <koegs> medicijnman: same here but it also does not accept a background image via preferences
[13:41] <koegs> seems like a bug
[13:42] <medicijnman> koegs: so for background via preferences you have "Background image" ? what xubuntu version do you have?
[13:43] <koegs> 14.04.3 and xfce4-terminal 0.6.3
[13:49] <medicijnman> koegs: hmmm i have the exact same versions
[13:50] <medicijnman> koegs: xfconf-query -l does not list xfce4-terminal either. is that also a bug or do i need to invoke another command?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> medicijnman, doesn't show on mine either
[13:51] <koegs> xfce4-terminal does use the config-file, not the xconf-system, i think
[13:51] <medicijnman> cfhowlett: so apparently to only way to change xfce4-terminal behavior is through the config file?
[13:52] <medicijnman> koegs: but apparently the preferences override the config file?
[13:53] <koegs> the preferences write/change the config file
[13:54] <koegs> and normally the xfce4-terminal immediately obeys to changes in the config file, even if you did them manually, no restart of the terminal required
[13:55] <medicijnman> koegs: maybe i am editting the wrong file then
[13:55] <koegs> ~/.config/xfce4/terminal/terminalrc
[13:55] <medicijnman> koegs: mine is located in /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/terminal/terminalrc
[13:55] <koegs> nope
[13:55] <medicijnman> koegs: ahhh
[13:55] <medicijnman> koegs: that makes sense
[13:56] <medicijnman> koegs: i already thought something was wrong because root is the owner with 644 permissions
[13:58] <medicijnman> koegs: thanks. that worked
[13:59] <medicijnman> xfce4-terminal does not support animated gifs does it?
[14:02] <Pici> medicijnman: no... its a terminal.
[14:02] <medicijnman> Pici: i mean as background image :p but it should be expected to work with background images anyway
[14:02] <Pici> medicijnman: oh.. heh.  I don't know, but I sadly wouldn't expect it.
[14:04] <medicijnman> Pici: yeah. i was really suprised that xfce4-terminal supports background images in the first place.
[14:04] <cfhowlett> wait, what?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> so a background image IN the terminal?!
[14:05] <Pici> I thought that had always been there.  I remember using it as a poor-man's transparent terminal.
[14:05] <medicijnman> cfhowlett: yeah :D like a desktop background with your command output on top of it
[14:06] <cfhowlett> sweet.  looking up my favorite ... image :)
[17:19] <xubuntu87i> hi guys, im installing xubuntu now, everything is fine
[17:19] <knome> glad to hear
[17:42] <cubatron> Any sigestion for a good video editing software?
[17:44] <xubuntu87i> kdenlive?
[17:54] <cubatron> xubuntu87i, if is possible another
[17:58] <xubuntu87i> i did not use, but i seen suggests of lightworks beta. and i heard kdenlive one of the best
[17:59] <cubatron> xubuntu87i, I have a bug with lightworks
[17:59] <cubatron> when I start lightworks in Xubuntu 15.04 I only get a black screen
[18:00] <xubuntu87i> u can also try Cinelarra
[18:00] <cubatron> ohh yes, I tottaly forget Cinelarra
[18:00] <xubuntu87i> *Cinelerra
[18:00] <cubatron> thanks xubuntu87i
[18:33] <dreamon> hello. if I tab on my touchpad upper right corner .. it paste my clipboard. how can I remove this?
[19:03] <Elbron01> any solutions to xfce power manager not working? (blank screen after 10 minutes even though setup not too, same for laptop lid close putting laptop in sleep)
[19:09]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[20:00] <m3n3chm0> hi, in Xubuntu 15.04 how can I move or adjunt in one place the WICD icon on the panel ¿?
[20:00]  * m3n3chm0 hi
[20:01] <knome> if it works like any other panel applet, then you can move it like any other panel applet
[20:02] <gordonjcp> evening
[20:02] <gordonjcp> is anyone here using gmusicbrowser?
[20:03] <gordonjcp> how do you get rid of the hideous crunching distortion?
[20:03] <knome> i'm using gmb but i have no idea what you are talking about
[20:03] <gordonjcp> knome: everything is severely clipped
[20:08] <m3n3chm0> knome it doesn't move
[20:09] <m3n3chm0> the other icons sure but wicd not :(
[20:09] <m3n3chm0> another issue most urgent i need to edit /etc/resolv.conf and add a line
[20:09] <m3n3chm0> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[20:09] <m3n3chm0> router IP
[20:09] <m3n3chm0> all the times I login
[20:10] <m3n3chm0> why ¿? if not internet is not working
[20:10] <drc> m3n3chm0: 1) Are you talking about WICD icons (i.e., you installed it yourself, it's not installed by default); 2) how are you trying to move it?)
[20:10] <knome> m3n3chm0, well if you are using wicd, there's not much we can do
[20:10] <knome> m3n3chm0, if that was working when you used network manager, then you should talk to the wicd developers
[20:10] <m3n3chm0> ok
[20:10] <m3n3chm0> thanks knome
[20:22] <Abraham> Hello! I'd like to know what dock I could use in alternative to cairo.
[20:22] <Abraham> I have 1 GB RAM
[20:24] <Abraham> Hello! I'd like to know what dock I could use in alternative to cairo.
[20:24] <Abraham> I have 1 GB RAM
[20:24] <gordonjcp> 1GB ought to be plenty
[20:26] <Abraham> Yes, I think it is, gordonjcp..
[20:27] <Abraham> What dock could you recommend to me?
[20:37] <whiter> Hello, I need some help.
[20:37] <whiter> I've been trying to get this working since last night.
[20:37] <whiter> Basically, I got Xubuntu 15.10 installed, and Compiz/Emerald, and everything works correctly, but when I maximize the windows, it covers the panel OR maximizes behind the panel
[20:37] <whiter> which is at the top of my screen
[20:37] <whiter> how would I fix this?
[20:38] <Abraham> whiter, what is your screen resolution?
[20:38] <mrkramps> Abraham, try wbar, it's pretty light weight
[20:39] <Abraham> hmmm, thanks, mrkramps. I will.
[20:39] <whiter> 1680x1050
[20:39] <whiter> on this external display im using
[20:39] <whiter> on the laptop its 1600x900
[20:40] <Abraham> pretty good resolution XD. Well, open panel preferences and check it to reserve space for the panel.
[20:41] <knome> whiter, compiz/emerald isn't officially supported on xubuntu, so you should ask for compiz support for help
[20:41] <whiter> jesus
[20:41] <knome> asking jesus would likely not help in this case, but you can ask jesus as well.
[20:42] <whiter> It's not a compiz issue.
[20:42] <whiter> This was happening before I installed those
[20:42] <whiter> asking you would not help, so please stop
[20:42] <knome> 15.10 is not released officially, but i haven't heard others having this problem either
[20:42] <knome> maybe it's something else in your configuration
[20:43] <whiter> .....
[20:43] <whiter> that was literally the most useless advice you could have given
[20:43] <knome> you're welcome.
[20:45] <knome> whiter, anyway, you should likely file a bug so developers can look at the issue and at least try to reproduce it.
[20:45] <whiter> I doubt its a bug though
[20:46] <whiter> Its what you said
[20:46] <whiter> But I already knew that :\
[20:46] <Abraham> whiter, you watched panel preferences already?
[20:46] <whiter> no
[20:47] <Abraham> do it :) be sure the option 'Don't reserve space on borders' is unchecked
[20:49] <whiter> it was checked
[20:49] <whiter> I love you
[20:51] <Abraham> hahahaha
[20:51] <Abraham> thou are welcome.
[20:54] <Abraham> Hey, mrkramps, there's no wbar on Ubuntu Software Center... there's plenty of solitude...
[20:54] <Abraham> well, there is the wbar-config application... but nothing else.
[20:55] <mrkramps> sudo apt-get install wbar wbar-config
[20:56] <Abraham> oh, thanks