[07:57] <seaLne> is plasma expected to be crashing all the time in wily?
[08:01] <yofel> seaLne: is the crash in brw_meta_fast_clear / somewhere in libgl*dri on intel?
[08:08] <yofel> sitter: regarding lp 1492037
 yofel: stuck in proposed
[08:10]  * sitter shakes fist
[08:11] <sitter> yofel: good stuff regardless, thanks for handling that :)
[08:26] <valorie> plasma has started crashing quite often indeed
[08:26] <valorie> however, it always restarts by itself
[08:53] <clivejo> Riddell: you about?
[08:54] <Riddell> hi clivejo
[08:54] <clivejo> re: marble, how come you added NOCI as the changeset message?
[09:05] <Riddell> clivejo: that's for the upload to the archive which is just a changelog edit so there's no point in rebuliding everything in CI
[09:18] <clivejo> Riddell: in KCI I think its failing on symbols
[09:19] <Riddell> clivejo: quite likely, got a link?
[09:19] <clivejo> Ive downloaded the two buildlogs and made a patch
[09:19] <clivejo> but what branch do I upload to
[09:19] <clivejo> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/218518959/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.kservice_5.14.3%2Bgit20150922.0129%2B15.10-0_BUILDING.txt.gz
[09:21] <clivejo> sorry, Im looking at kservice
[09:24] <Riddell> clivejo: put it into kubuntu_unstable
[09:31] <clivejo> Riddell: ok, so thats triggered a rebuild of vivid and wily unstable?
[09:31] <Riddell> clivejo: yep, vivid we don't care about currently but wily should build
[09:32] <clivejo> if that builds ok, do I then merge into stable?
[09:32] <Riddell> clivejo: only if it needs it
[09:33] <clivejo> I still dont understand the branchs
[09:33] <Riddell> clivejo: since marble just built fine from stable there's no change needed there https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/marble/4:15.08.1-0ubuntu1
[09:33] <Riddell> so the changes in symbols will be caused by changes in code written in marble in KDE
[09:33] <yofel> did kservice bump soversion? Or am I mssing something?
[09:33] <clivejo> Riddell: sorry, Im talking about kservice 
[09:34] <Riddell> clivejo: same thing, kserivce builds fine too https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kservice/5.14.3-0ubuntu1
[09:35] <clivejo> yofel: yeah, twice 
[09:35] <Riddell> there's been no soversion bump
[09:36] <Riddell> but it's had lots of code changes including breakages and unbreaks and breakages again
[09:36] <clivejo> yofel: sorry misread
[09:36] <yofel> Riddell: I think we're talking about CI here?
[09:36] <Riddell> so all those missing symbols I'm confused about
[09:36] <Riddell> yofel: everything, clivejo it looking at it in CI yes
[09:36] <sitter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12529895/
[09:37] <sitter> dfaure needs to mark his privates unexported 
[09:37] <yofel> so that's all gcc/private ?
[09:38] <sitter> looks like it
[09:39] <yofel> fine then
[09:40] <sitter> new script btw http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/scripts/symbolfilt :p
[09:40]  * sitter got annoyed with reading symboldiffs of kdepim breakage
[09:40] <yofel> heh
[09:51] <yofel> eek
 yofel: can you check why kwin tests fail? that's the blocker now
[09:55] <yofel> hm, fails since 5.4.1 
[09:57] <yofel> The following tests FAILED:
[09:57] <yofel>           9 - kwin-testClientMachine (Failed)
[09:57] <yofel>          18 - kwin_testScreenEdges (Failed)
[09:58] <yofel> sitter, Riddell: could you look at that? I don't have time for this now :/
[09:59] <yofel> OTOH
[09:59] <yofel> Should wait for kwin 4:5.4.1-0ubuntu1 test, but forced by jriddell
[09:59] <yofel> I don't get britney..
[09:59] <sitter> nobody does!
[10:13] <sitter> next marble wily unstable will fail on symbols that can be retracted, just did a sobump
[10:14] <Riddell> yofel: if they're the same failures as in 5.4.0 martin just said he didn't know and so I forced it
[10:14] <yofel> yeah, but why does britney then say Not considered :(
[10:15] <sitter> yofel: talk to doko or pitti
[10:16] <sitter> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#mesa
[10:16] <sitter> it's not held because of the tests
[10:23] <clivejo> how come kservice doesnt have a kubuntu_stable on Alioth?
[10:23] <sitter> frameworks have no stable version
[10:24] <sitter> in kde they only have master which in our scheme translates to only unstable
 ah, looks like the kwin test regression wasn't the blocker after all, mesa 11.0.0 is now in
[10:26] <pursuivant> libqapt (master) v3.0.0-36-g726defa * Harald Sitter: CMakeLists.txt
[10:26] <pursuivant> bump version to 3.0.1
[10:26] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/libqapt/726defa3188a1449312e212085f914e97e29f76f
[10:31] <clivejo> sitter: kblog, kholidays and kmbox all have so5 ABI break
[10:40] <sitter> clivejo: I know kdepim people are somewhat refusing to bump https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/users/sitter/?show-closed=0
[10:41] <clivejo> so nothing we can do about that til they do?
[10:41] <sitter> ScottK, maxyz http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/tar/
[10:42] <sitter> 19aeb20f8a9a0c7377f21e3d03d2319aa80348561872938363c540cb6340b97c  libqapt-3.0.1.tar.xz
[10:42] <sitter> cd70ab39784d93bdb5e3ec856798bcf8b74b29ed99f41276c0cece868b95bb84  libdebconf-kde-1.0.2.tar.xz
[10:42] <sitter> going to lists once kde sysadmins get around to publish the tars
[10:42] <sitter> clivejo: nope, feel free to nag them as well though :P
[10:46] <clivejo> Im getting an email approximately every 30mins about kdenlive not building on armhf, whats going on with it?
[10:46] <sitter> keeps retrying I guess
[10:50] <Riddell> clivejo: I had a retry script running
[10:50] <Riddell> clivejo: I'm fixing it up
[10:51] <Riddell> should be every 20 minutes rather than 30 seconds :)
[10:52] <clivejo> rather annoying :P
[10:53] <sitter> clivejo: filter all mails from launchpad to trash
[10:54] <clivejo> LOL thanks sitter
[10:58] <sitter>   Uploading libqapt_3.0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[10:58] <sitter> Successfully uploaded packages.
[10:58] <sitter> translations and a whole wall of bugfixes
[11:02] <sitter>   Uploading debconf-kde_1.0.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[11:02] <sitter> Successfully uploaded packages.
[11:02] <sitter> translations
[11:09] <Riddell> awooga thanks sitter
[11:12] <clivejo> would someone mind taking apps 15.08.1 out of the topic?
[11:15] <sitter> you can do that too
[11:27] <Riddell> sitter: oh what have I dont wrong with kservice? I uploaded it manually to mobilekci and it's in http://mobile.kci.pangea.pub/pool/main/k/kservice/ but the indexer didn't like it
[11:34] <sitter> > I uploaded it manually to mobilekci
[11:36] <Riddell> sitter: that doesn't work any more?
[11:38] <sitter> Riddell: you just shouldn't do it
[11:38] <sitter> if you upload while the publisher is running you are blown gup the repo I presume
[11:39] <sitter> also there is no visual representation of that upload
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:41] <sitter> Riddell: you did break kdenlive btw
[11:42] <Riddell> sitter: I'm still unbreaking it
[11:42] <sitter> k
[12:12] <Riddell> sitter: I fear my kservice upload has broken everything :( http://mobile.kci.pangea.pub:8080/job/vivid_unstable_kbookmarks_pub/5/console
[12:13] <bshah> sorry for all trouble caused.. :p
[12:14] <sitter> Riddell: ssh into taspar
[12:14] <Riddell> sitter: I'm in as publisher@taspar
[12:14] <sitter> and su into publisher, then run reprepro dumpunreferenced in the repo
[12:15] <sitter> if that doesn't work run deleteunreferenced
[12:15] <sitter> and then unreferenced again
[12:15] <sitter> and if it doesn't work then you have to read up on reprepreo
[12:20]  * Riddell tries
[12:31] <ScottK> sitter: thanks
[12:41] <Riddell> !testers | beta 2
[12:41] <Riddell> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/346/builds
[12:42] <Riddell> candidates
[12:43] <clivejo> what you need tested?
[12:44] <yofel> note: ignore any mesa crashes on ^, those builds ship the old mesa
[12:48] <Riddell> clivejo: the iso images and the upgrade from vivid
[13:11] <clivejo> its fixed!!
[13:11] <Riddell> go go kdenlive
[13:11] <clivejo> no more emails!
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Riddell, what's up ?
[13:14] <Riddell> BluesKaj: beta 2 candidate images and upgrades need testing!
[13:14] <BluesKaj> Riddell, in the dailies I assume
[13:17] <Riddell> BluesKaj: yep
[13:17] <soee> Riddell: i think testers list needs to be updated, there are some nicks i haven't seen here for a long time ;)
[13:23] <Riddell> yep
[13:26] <Riddell> sitter: hoorah just needed the files removed from incoming and it's happy
[13:26] <soee> did you tried already Firefox Hello ?
[13:27] <clivejo> hummm looks like kontact bug # 351486 is back again!
[13:27] <clivejo> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351486
[13:28] <clivejo> soee: can you check please?
[13:47] <Riddell> launchpad doesn't like your translations foo https://launchpadlibrarian.net/218554289/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-i386.kubuntu-debug-installer_15.10ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz "debian/rules:12: recipe for target 'kubuntu_rake' failed"
[13:50] <soee> clivejo: uh i can look at this but later after 22:00 cet
[13:50] <clivejo> no prob
[13:51] <clivejo> Riddell: got a few minutes?
[13:51] <Riddell> clivejo: yo, what's up?
[13:51] <clivejo> looking at kconfig
[13:52] <clivejo> cloned wily_unstable from debian git
[13:52] <clivejo> tried to fix the symbols
[13:53] <clivejo> but pkgkde-symbolshelper is failing
[13:53] <Riddell> clivejo: url?
[13:53] <clivejo> this is output - https://paste.kde.org/pwea3unqn
[13:54] <clivejo> there was an automatic update - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/kconfig.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable
[13:56] <Riddell> clivejo: right so I guess the pkgkde-symbolshelpe fix won't work because of that automatic update
[13:56] <Riddell> clivejo: best to tidy the automatic update by removing all the MISSING values (they're just gcc5 changes and were maked optional) then kick off a build in kci
[13:56] <Riddell> and see what happens
[13:57] <clivejo> how do I kick off a re-build?
[13:57] <clivejo> oh it does that automatically when I push?
[14:01] <Riddell> it should do it magically
[14:01] <Riddell> on push
[14:02] <clivejo> yeah, I forgot that :)
[14:02] <clivejo> I pushed it with some fairy dust
[14:08] <clivejo> Riddell: kdeconnect-plasma cant find TelepathyQt5Service (required version >= 0.9.7), does it exist?
[14:09] <clivejo>  libtelepathy-qt5-dev ?
[14:10] <Riddell> dunno, install it and see :)
[14:12] <clivejo> it is installed as a build-dep
[14:12] <marco-parillo> Some papercuts testing Beta 2: (1) When I select Install from a live session with only 1GB in my VM, I get an icon indicating Low Disk Space Remaining Space in your Home Folder 198 MiB.
[14:13] <marco-parillo> (2) I still had to force power-down my VM after the Restart Now dialog box. (3) I still have to migrate my empty kwallet.
[14:13] <marco-parillo> (4) Immediately after installing, I have KDE Apps 15.08.01 to install.
[14:13] <Riddell> 4) is a good thing :)
[14:14] <Riddell> clivejo: yep looks like it's there
[14:14] <marco-parillo> Yes, I did update the Beta2 page already anticipating that. It is just a shame to download the ISO then the apps again.
[14:14] <Riddell> badly timed freeze
[14:14] <Riddell> always happens
[14:14] <mamarley> Most of the time Shut Down and Restart from Plasma don't work for me either.
[14:19] <marco-parillo> Logging off to test encrypted / LVM (this time directly from the install option, rather than from the try option).
[14:24] <clivejo> surprise surprise
[14:50] <Riddell> clivejo: looks like it build and symbols are happy http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_unstable_kconfig/
[14:50] <Riddell> clivejo: I'm not sure why it's called unstable, maybe it's the lintian error about multiarch
[14:50] <Riddell> unstable seems like a bad label to use there since it's what we call builds from master
[14:51] <Riddell> sitter: what's the unstable thing about on that kconfig build?
[14:52] <sitter> shadeslayer changed something to do with MA maxy changed it back or something. hasn't been fixed since as shadeslayer didn't care
[14:59] <Riddell> clivejo: so you can either battle the mysteries of multiarch or move on safe in the knowledge that you fixed the symbols issue and you have achieved a tartan coloured ninja belt :)
[15:40] <clivejo> LOL
[15:40] <clivejo> I think Ill move on
[16:04] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.0-61-g1310191 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (2 files)
[16:04] <pursuivant> Improve installed applications display
[16:04] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/13101916713ba26214582a2fa45544b0da69431f
[16:04] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.0-62-g1980a87 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/GridItem.qml
[16:04] <pursuivant> remove unused property
[16:04] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/1980a87a50969c17f572f8ae28beee233f1c5e07
[16:04] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.0-63-gdf0d102 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (6 files)
[16:04] <pursuivant> Better match the banner's vision by the vdg
[16:04] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/df0d102a8d0379ead526b67a75f831387ae1d79e
[16:04] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.0-64-g51d6c76 * Aleix Pol: discover (8 files in 2 dirs)
[16:04] <pursuivant> Cosmetics
[16:04] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/51d6c76f2e4c694880832d3d91f864adeb146ae1
[16:04] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.0-65-gfd62e42 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/ApplicationsGridDelegate.qml
[16:04] <pursuivant> Fix icon display
[16:04] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/fd62e42569330dfc810736b25d563797e5ffc88a
[16:08] <clivejo> Riddell: what is "Project testfuckyoujenkins" ?
[16:09] <Riddell> clivejo: I'm not sure but it sounds like quite an angry project
[16:09] <clivejo> Im not sure that project should be in Kubuntu - Friendly computing !
[16:10] <clivejo> who manages pangea.pub?
[16:10] <bshah> but we choose friends wisely
[16:10] <clivejo> KDE?
[16:10] <bshah> so its fair
[16:10] <Riddell> sitter usually
[16:10] <Riddell> where do you see this clivejo?
[16:10] <clivejo> Jenkins is friendly!
[16:11] <clivejo> http://kci.pangea.pub/view/test/
[16:15] <clivejo> how do I get a Jenkins log in?
[16:19] <clivejo> yippeee
[16:20] <Riddell> awooga!
[16:20] <Riddell> you're on a roll :)
[16:21] <clivejo> need a lemmings yipppee wav for quassel
[16:25] <clivejo> Riddell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYZmrtWjr9g
[16:27] <Riddell> ah lemmings, the second best export from dundee
[16:36] <Riddell> cyphermox: modemmanager is still breaking the upgrade and beta is due out tomorrow :(
[17:01] <mhall119> ahoneybun: valorie ovidiu-florin claydoh yofel hangout time?
[17:01] <ovidiu-florin> mhall119: yes
[17:01] <ahoneybun> yep
[17:02] <ovidiu-florin> we were waiting in #ubuntu-meeting
[17:02] <mhall119> let me know if you need the link, but it should be in the calendar invite
[17:02] <ahoneybun> the link would be nice
[17:04] <valorie> and why a damn hangout
[17:09] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.0-66-g71572c4 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/ApplicationsGridDelegate.qml
[17:09] <pursuivant> code simplification
[17:09] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/71572c478c7ac03c27a044f0f1a42d082922f36a
[17:09] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.0-67-g80db05f * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (4 files)
[17:09] <pursuivant> Fix some interaction issues on compact mode
[17:09] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/80db05fbad807b99f965fb34a88d807f282e5a51
[17:15]  * ahoneybun has never seen yofel in person or video
[17:15] <yofel> .D
[17:15] <yofel> :D
[18:04] <cyphermox> Riddell: I know, but I can only do so much at a time -- I'm trying something, now to do an upgrade test.
[18:32] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: how did you word that?
[18:32] <ovidiu-florin> provisioning setup?
[18:33] <ovidiu-florin> added a trello card for it
[18:33] <yofel> right. Here at my workplace, we use: Vagrant for the dev environment setup, which pulls a bare ubuntu VM image, then runs ansible to do the setup for web development (install and configure LAMP, postfix, vhosts, whatever)
[18:33] <yofel> so what you're looking for is something on the ansible/puppet/chef side
[18:34] <yofel> you can probably do the same thing with docker, but I never really managed to understand docker as it tries to be both a container provider as well as manage the container setup etc. itself
[18:34] <yofel> somewhere on my todo list
[18:39] <yofel> then again, ansible/chef/puppet/etc. are just tools to help you to set up complex environments. You could do the same thing with a shell script - it would just be less modular if you ever want to reuse something
[18:43] <clivejo> do we have tools to checkout from KDE git?
[18:54] <clivejo> Riddell yofel: where does KCI get the git source code from?  Im looking for kdepim_4:15.08.1-git20150923.0206
[18:56] <yofel> clivejo: git clone kde:kdepim
[18:56] <yofel> after you add this to your ~.gitconfig
[18:56] <yofel> [url "git://anongit.kde.org/"]
[18:56] <yofel>     insteadOf = kde:
[18:56] <yofel> [url "ssh://git@git.kde.org/"]
[18:56] <yofel>     pushInsteadOf = kde:
[18:56] <clivejo> thanks yofel :)
[18:59] <clivejo> magic!
[19:09] <clivejo> yofel: on KCI, kdepim is failing.  Is there an easy way of just grabbing the source package so I dont have to download the entire git archive?
[19:17] <yofel> sure, just fetch the package from the PPA
[19:18] <yofel> clivejo: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages
[19:19] <clivejo> that would be a lot easier!
[19:29] <clivejo> yofel: how do I enable the kci ppas from within pbuilder?
[19:30] <yofel> pbuilder login --save-after-login, then edit the sources.list
[19:30] <clivejo> log in and modifed source list?
[19:30] <clivejo> no easy way ;P
[19:32] <clivejo> so frameworks, plasma and apps are all in that ppa together?
[19:32] <yofel> you could also set OTHERMIRROR and use something like --overrideconfig, but I never tried that
[19:33] <yofel> AFAIK yes
[19:34] <clivejo> maybe I should copy the chroot
[19:34] <clivejo> keep one for KCI building?
[19:48] <yofel> if you often plant to work with it, that's a good idea
[19:48] <yofel> I keep various project chroots myself
[19:49] <clivejo> seems to be working :)
[19:49] <clivejo> spoke too soon!
[20:03] <clivejo> o/ soee
[20:04] <soee> hiho
[20:05] <clivejo> you home?
[20:05] <soee> yu, just arrived
[20:06] <clivejo> do you work late?
[20:06] <soee> i have ~ 2 hours :-) than need some sleep
[20:11] <clivejo> get a chance to check on that kontact crash?
[20:29] <soee> what was it ?
[20:35] <clivejo> feeds crashing
[20:37] <soee> if konact shares feeds function with kagregator that it is known :)
[20:38] <clivejo> it was resolved for me, but back in 15.08.01
[20:47] <soee> clivejo: there is a lot of bugs relate to akregator crash
[20:47] <soee> so if kontact uses same code, it might also crash
[20:48] <clivejo> did it get resolved for you in 15.08.0?
[20:48] <soee> clivejo: nope, i added trace to some existing bug report
[20:48] <clivejo> oh
[20:49] <clivejo> it was working great for me
[20:49] <soee> i didn;t ty it yes on 15.08.1 but i doubt it was fixed
[20:49] <soee> *it yet
[20:49] <clivejo> then updated to 15.08,1 and bam crashing again
[20:54] <soee> :)
[20:58] <clivejo> soee: done be smiling at me!! Its not amusing in the slightest :P
[20:58] <clivejo> dont
[20:59] <clivejo> I rely on the RSS feeds a lot
[21:00] <soee> it just fails atm :)
[21:03] <clivejo> yofel: I have created a copy of my pbuilder environment and added the kci unstable PPA to it.  I dget the source and build it in pbuilder, but I cant get passed the build dep checks, am I doing something worng?
[21:03] <yofel> please pastebin all the output it gives you
[21:05] <clivejo> yofel: https://paste.kde.org/pawhtychx
[21:19] <yofel> clivejo: hm, it certainly only finds an outdated version of akonadi
[21:19] <clivejo> is there an unstable version of akonadi or do I need to add another PPA?
[21:20] <yofel> hm, no.. it's in the same ppa
[21:20] <yofel> clivejo: what does 'apt-cache policy libkf5akonadiserver-dev' say in the chroot?
[21:21] <clivejo> gimme a sec, Ill have to restart it
[21:21] <yofel> oh
[21:21] <yofel> Setting up libkf5akonadiserver-dev (4:15.08.1+git20150923.0050+15.10-0) ...
[21:21] <TJ-> yofel: clivejo Setting up libkf5akonadiserver-dev (4:15.08.1+git20150923.0050+15.10-0)
[21:21] <yofel> hm
[21:21] <TJ-> snap :)
[21:21] <yofel> heh
[21:27] <yofel> oh duh
[21:27] <yofel> $ apt-cache showsrc libkf5akonadi-dev
[21:27] <yofel> Package: kdepimlibs
[21:28] <yofel> why couldn't they just split that out
[21:28] <yofel> clivejo: kdepimlibs is FTBFS, you'll have to fix that first
[21:29] <clivejo> ok that makes sense, but how did that kdepim build in KCI get past it?!
[21:30] <clivejo> the logs indicate that the problem with that build is missing files?
[21:31] <yofel> that is also a good question
[21:31] <yofel> Setting up libkf5akonadi-dev (4:15.08.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1) ...
[21:31] <yofel> your log at least shows that it didn't pull all stuff from the CI ppa
[21:32] <yofel> now, why it did that I'm not sure, that part is missing from your paste
[21:34] <TJ-> I may be missing something of your specific build versions here, but I'm reading that QtSpeech isn't available until QT 5.6, and the build log indicates QT 5.4 libraries being installed
[21:34] <clivejo> yofel: I mean this build - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/218613790/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.kdepim_4%3A15.08.1%2Bgit20150923.0206%2B15.10-0_BUILDING.txt.gz
[21:36] <yofel> Get:232 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ci/unstable/ubuntu/ wily/main libkf5akonadi-dev amd64 4:15.08.0+git20150915.0151+15.10-0 [178 kB]
[21:36] <yofel> that installed the correct akonadi version
[21:36] <TJ-> (ignore me, I just re-read the error)
[21:36] <clivejo> 20150915
[21:37] <clivejo> it uses the last stable?
[21:37] <yofel> it uses the last that actually built successfully
[21:38] <clivejo> I guess that was just luck?
[21:38] <clivejo> pimlibs hadnt been published
[21:38] <yofel> well, LP always keeps the last successfully built binaries
[21:39] <yofel> so I'm wondering why your chroot failed to get those
[21:39]  * clivejo has no idea
[21:39] <dmatt> Hello, where do I file bugs found when testing new Kubuntu ISO from http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/346/builds/102863/testcases ?
[21:43] <yofel> dmatt: application bugs preferably to bugs.kde.org where appropriate, everything else on launchpad using ubuntu-bug and the package in question (e.g. ubuntu-bug ubiquity). Then you can add the bug number to the test case
[21:48] <dmatt> thanks. When I start live cd, change language to some non english and pick live session option, live session itself is still in english. Is this considered bug or feature ? :)
[21:52] <valorie> hmmm
[21:52] <valorie> no option within the live session to change to the other language?
[21:52] <valorie> certainly sounds like a bug to me
[21:54] <yofel> it's actually a feature I fear
[21:54] <yofel> as we're trying to not let the image size get out of hand, there's practically no translations on it
[21:56] <yofel> we might want to think about maybe adding another fully localized image set to the release next cycle - considering ovidiu did want something like that
[21:59] <valorie> it would be cool to have that available if people are going to want it
[21:59] <valorie> I mean, that's what u-kylin is
[21:59] <valorie> the French do one sometimes
[21:59] <valorie> as a remix
[22:02] <dmatt> I thought that language translations is the reason why it's currently marked oversized :)
[22:03] <dmatt> nevermind I was just trying to clarify test-case
[22:04] <yofel> no, that was some other random stuff getting pulled in
[22:04] <yofel> thanks for testing the image in any case and bringing this up
[22:06] <dmatt> i've seen some graphical glitch in KInfoCenter, apart from that everythings seems to start and run in very brief test
[22:28] <clivejo> yofel: how do I retry the kdepim build now?
[22:31] <yofel> I triggered a new build
[22:33]  * clivejo crosses fingers
[22:34] <clivejo> I think it will fail
[22:35] <yofel> probably ^^
[22:35] <clivejo> theres changed files I think
[22:35]  * clivejo tried in pbuilder to
[22:38] <clivejo> theres a surprise
[22:38] <yofel> that was fast
[22:39] <clivejo> kholiday
[22:40] <clivejo> and it was a so5 ABI break
[22:40] <clivejo> has
[22:40] <clivejo> Ive no idea how to fix that
[22:40] <yofel> I'm off to bed in any case
[22:40] <yofel> gn
[22:41] <clivejo> LOL good idea
[22:41] <clivejo> good night