=== tsdgeos_ is now known as tsdgeos [07:57] is plasma expected to be crashing all the time in wily? [08:01] seaLne: is the crash in brw_meta_fast_clear / somewhere in libgl*dri on intel? [08:08] sitter: regarding lp 1492037 [08:08] Launchpad bug 1492037 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Segmentation fault in brw_meta_fast_clear" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1492037 [08:08] yofel: stuck in proposed [08:10] * sitter shakes fist [08:11] yofel: good stuff regardless, thanks for handling that :) [08:26] plasma has started crashing quite often indeed [08:26] however, it always restarts by itself [08:53] Riddell: you about? [08:54] hi clivejo [08:54] re: marble, how come you added NOCI as the changeset message? [09:05] clivejo: that's for the upload to the archive which is just a changelog edit so there's no point in rebuliding everything in CI [09:18] Riddell: in KCI I think its failing on symbols [09:19] clivejo: quite likely, got a link? [09:19] Ive downloaded the two buildlogs and made a patch [09:19] but what branch do I upload to [09:19] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/218518959/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.kservice_5.14.3%2Bgit20150922.0129%2B15.10-0_BUILDING.txt.gz [09:21] sorry, Im looking at kservice [09:24] clivejo: put it into kubuntu_unstable [09:31] Riddell: ok, so thats triggered a rebuild of vivid and wily unstable? [09:31] clivejo: yep, vivid we don't care about currently but wily should build [09:32] if that builds ok, do I then merge into stable? [09:32] clivejo: only if it needs it [09:33] I still dont understand the branchs [09:33] clivejo: since marble just built fine from stable there's no change needed there https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/marble/4:15.08.1-0ubuntu1 [09:33] so the changes in symbols will be caused by changes in code written in marble in KDE [09:33] did kservice bump soversion? Or am I mssing something? [09:33] Riddell: sorry, Im talking about kservice [09:34] clivejo: same thing, kserivce builds fine too https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kservice/5.14.3-0ubuntu1 [09:35] yofel: yeah, twice [09:35] there's been no soversion bump [09:36] but it's had lots of code changes including breakages and unbreaks and breakages again [09:36] yofel: sorry misread [09:36] Riddell: I think we're talking about CI here? [09:36] so all those missing symbols I'm confused about [09:36] yofel: everything, clivejo it looking at it in CI yes [09:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/12529895/ [09:37] dfaure needs to mark his privates unexported [09:37] so that's all gcc/private ? [09:38] looks like it [09:39] fine then [09:40] new script btw http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/scripts/symbolfilt :p [09:40] * sitter got annoyed with reading symboldiffs of kdepim breakage [09:40] heh [09:51] eek [09:52] yofel: can you check why kwin tests fail? that's the blocker now [09:55] hm, fails since 5.4.1 [09:57] The following tests FAILED: [09:57] 9 - kwin-testClientMachine (Failed) [09:57] 18 - kwin_testScreenEdges (Failed) [09:58] sitter, Riddell: could you look at that? I don't have time for this now :/ [09:59] OTOH [09:59] Should wait for kwin 4:5.4.1-0ubuntu1 test, but forced by jriddell [09:59] I don't get britney.. [09:59] nobody does! [10:13] next marble wily unstable will fail on symbols that can be retracted, just did a sobump [10:14] yofel: if they're the same failures as in 5.4.0 martin just said he didn't know and so I forced it [10:14] yeah, but why does britney then say Not considered :( [10:15] yofel: talk to doko or pitti [10:16] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#mesa [10:16] it's not held because of the tests [10:23] how come kservice doesnt have a kubuntu_stable on Alioth? [10:23] frameworks have no stable version [10:24] in kde they only have master which in our scheme translates to only unstable [10:26] ah, looks like the kwin test regression wasn't the blocker after all, mesa 11.0.0 is now in [10:26] libqapt (master) v3.0.0-36-g726defa * Harald Sitter: CMakeLists.txt [10:26] bump version to 3.0.1 [10:26] http://commits.kde.org/libqapt/726defa3188a1449312e212085f914e97e29f76f [10:31] sitter: kblog, kholidays and kmbox all have so5 ABI break [10:40] clivejo: I know kdepim people are somewhat refusing to bump https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/users/sitter/?show-closed=0 [10:41] so nothing we can do about that til they do? [10:41] ScottK, maxyz http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/tar/ [10:42] 19aeb20f8a9a0c7377f21e3d03d2319aa80348561872938363c540cb6340b97c libqapt-3.0.1.tar.xz [10:42] cd70ab39784d93bdb5e3ec856798bcf8b74b29ed99f41276c0cece868b95bb84 libdebconf-kde-1.0.2.tar.xz [10:42] going to lists once kde sysadmins get around to publish the tars [10:42] clivejo: nope, feel free to nag them as well though :P [10:46] Im getting an email approximately every 30mins about kdenlive not building on armhf, whats going on with it? [10:46] keeps retrying I guess [10:50] clivejo: I had a retry script running [10:50] clivejo: I'm fixing it up [10:51] should be every 20 minutes rather than 30 seconds :) [10:52] rather annoying :P [10:53] clivejo: filter all mails from launchpad to trash [10:54] LOL thanks sitter [10:58] Uploading libqapt_3.0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done. [10:58] Successfully uploaded packages. [10:58] translations and a whole wall of bugfixes [11:02] Uploading debconf-kde_1.0.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done. [11:02] Successfully uploaded packages. [11:02] translations [11:09] awooga thanks sitter [11:12] would someone mind taking apps 15.08.1 out of the topic? === sitter changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ [11:15] you can do that too [11:27] sitter: oh what have I dont wrong with kservice? I uploaded it manually to mobilekci and it's in http://mobile.kci.pangea.pub/pool/main/k/kservice/ but the indexer didn't like it [11:34] > I uploaded it manually to mobilekci [11:36] sitter: that doesn't work any more? [11:38] Riddell: you just shouldn't do it [11:38] if you upload while the publisher is running you are blown gup the repo I presume [11:39] also there is no visual representation of that upload [11:39] Howdy all [11:41] Riddell: you did break kdenlive btw [11:42] sitter: I'm still unbreaking it [11:42] k [12:12] sitter: I fear my kservice upload has broken everything :( http://mobile.kci.pangea.pub:8080/job/vivid_unstable_kbookmarks_pub/5/console [12:13] sorry for all trouble caused.. :p [12:14] Riddell: ssh into taspar [12:14] sitter: I'm in as publisher@taspar [12:14] and su into publisher, then run reprepro dumpunreferenced in the repo [12:15] if that doesn't work run deleteunreferenced [12:15] and then unreferenced again [12:15] and if it doesn't work then you have to read up on reprepreo [12:20] * Riddell tries [12:31] sitter: thanks [12:41] !testers | beta 2 [12:41] beta 2: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information [12:41] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/346/builds [12:42] candidates [12:43] what you need tested? [12:44] note: ignore any mesa crashes on ^, those builds ship the old mesa [12:48] clivejo: the iso images and the upgrade from vivid [13:11] its fixed!! [13:11] go go kdenlive [13:11] no more emails! [13:13] Riddell, what's up ? [13:14] BluesKaj: beta 2 candidate images and upgrades need testing! [13:14] Riddell, in the dailies I assume [13:17] BluesKaj: yep [13:17] Riddell: i think testers list needs to be updated, there are some nicks i haven't seen here for a long time ;) [13:23] yep [13:26] sitter: hoorah just needed the files removed from incoming and it's happy [13:26] did you tried already Firefox Hello ? [13:27] hummm looks like kontact bug # 351486 is back again! [13:27] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351486 [13:27] KDE bug 351486 in akregator konqueror plugin "Crashes after displaying Server Authenticity check failed" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [13:28] soee: can you check please? [13:47] launchpad doesn't like your translations foo https://launchpadlibrarian.net/218554289/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-i386.kubuntu-debug-installer_15.10ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz "debian/rules:12: recipe for target 'kubuntu_rake' failed" [13:50] clivejo: uh i can look at this but later after 22:00 cet [13:50] no prob [13:51] Riddell: got a few minutes? [13:51] clivejo: yo, what's up? [13:51] looking at kconfig [13:52] cloned wily_unstable from debian git [13:52] tried to fix the symbols [13:53] but pkgkde-symbolshelper is failing [13:53] clivejo: url? [13:53] this is output - https://paste.kde.org/pwea3unqn [13:54] there was an automatic update - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/kconfig.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable [13:56] clivejo: right so I guess the pkgkde-symbolshelpe fix won't work because of that automatic update [13:56] clivejo: best to tidy the automatic update by removing all the MISSING values (they're just gcc5 changes and were maked optional) then kick off a build in kci [13:56] and see what happens [13:57] how do I kick off a re-build? [13:57] oh it does that automatically when I push? [14:01] it should do it magically [14:01] on push [14:02] yeah, I forgot that :) [14:02] I pushed it with some fairy dust [14:08] Riddell: kdeconnect-plasma cant find TelepathyQt5Service (required version >= 0.9.7), does it exist? [14:09] libtelepathy-qt5-dev ? [14:10] dunno, install it and see :) [14:12] it is installed as a build-dep [14:12] Some papercuts testing Beta 2: (1) When I select Install from a live session with only 1GB in my VM, I get an icon indicating Low Disk Space Remaining Space in your Home Folder 198 MiB. [14:13] (2) I still had to force power-down my VM after the Restart Now dialog box. (3) I still have to migrate my empty kwallet. [14:13] (4) Immediately after installing, I have KDE Apps 15.08.01 to install. [14:13] 4) is a good thing :) [14:14] clivejo: yep looks like it's there [14:14] Yes, I did update the Beta2 page already anticipating that. It is just a shame to download the ISO then the apps again. [14:14] badly timed freeze [14:14] always happens [14:14] Most of the time Shut Down and Restart from Plasma don't work for me either. [14:19] Logging off to test encrypted / LVM (this time directly from the install option, rather than from the try option). [14:24] surprise surprise [14:50] clivejo: looks like it build and symbols are happy http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_unstable_kconfig/ [14:50] clivejo: I'm not sure why it's called unstable, maybe it's the lintian error about multiarch [14:50] unstable seems like a bad label to use there since it's what we call builds from master [14:51] sitter: what's the unstable thing about on that kconfig build? [14:52] shadeslayer changed something to do with MA maxy changed it back or something. hasn't been fixed since as shadeslayer didn't care [14:59] clivejo: so you can either battle the mysteries of multiarch or move on safe in the knowledge that you fixed the symbols issue and you have achieved a tartan coloured ninja belt :) [15:40] LOL [15:40] I think Ill move on [16:04] muon (redesign) v5.4.0-61-g1310191 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (2 files) [16:04] Improve installed applications display [16:04] http://commits.kde.org/muon/13101916713ba26214582a2fa45544b0da69431f [16:04] muon (redesign) v5.4.0-62-g1980a87 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/GridItem.qml [16:04] remove unused property [16:04] http://commits.kde.org/muon/1980a87a50969c17f572f8ae28beee233f1c5e07 [16:04] muon (redesign) v5.4.0-63-gdf0d102 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (6 files) [16:04] Better match the banner's vision by the vdg [16:04] http://commits.kde.org/muon/df0d102a8d0379ead526b67a75f831387ae1d79e [16:04] muon (redesign) v5.4.0-64-g51d6c76 * Aleix Pol: discover (8 files in 2 dirs) [16:04] Cosmetics [16:04] http://commits.kde.org/muon/51d6c76f2e4c694880832d3d91f864adeb146ae1 [16:04] muon (redesign) v5.4.0-65-gfd62e42 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/ApplicationsGridDelegate.qml [16:04] Fix icon display [16:04] http://commits.kde.org/muon/fd62e42569330dfc810736b25d563797e5ffc88a [16:08] Riddell: what is "Project testfuckyoujenkins" ? [16:09] clivejo: I'm not sure but it sounds like quite an angry project [16:09] Im not sure that project should be in Kubuntu - Friendly computing ! [16:10] who manages pangea.pub? [16:10] but we choose friends wisely [16:10] KDE? [16:10] so its fair [16:10] sitter usually [16:10] where do you see this clivejo? [16:10] Jenkins is friendly! [16:11] http://kci.pangea.pub/view/test/ [16:15] how do I get a Jenkins log in? [16:19] yippeee [16:20] awooga! [16:20] you're on a roll :) [16:21] need a lemmings yipppee wav for quassel [16:25] Riddell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYZmrtWjr9g [16:27] ah lemmings, the second best export from dundee [16:36] cyphermox: modemmanager is still breaking the upgrade and beta is due out tomorrow :( [17:01] ahoneybun: valorie ovidiu-florin claydoh yofel hangout time? [17:01] mhall119: yes [17:01] yep [17:02] we were waiting in #ubuntu-meeting [17:02] let me know if you need the link, but it should be in the calendar invite [17:02] the link would be nice [17:04] and why a damn hangout [17:09] muon (redesign) v5.4.0-66-g71572c4 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/ApplicationsGridDelegate.qml [17:09] code simplification [17:09] http://commits.kde.org/muon/71572c478c7ac03c27a044f0f1a42d082922f36a [17:09] muon (redesign) v5.4.0-67-g80db05f * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (4 files) [17:09] Fix some interaction issues on compact mode [17:09] http://commits.kde.org/muon/80db05fbad807b99f965fb34a88d807f282e5a51 [17:15] * ahoneybun has never seen yofel in person or video [17:15] .D [17:15] :D [18:04] Riddell: I know, but I can only do so much at a time -- I'm trying something, now to do an upgrade test. [18:32] yofel: how did you word that? [18:32] provisioning setup? [18:33] added a trello card for it [18:33] right. Here at my workplace, we use: Vagrant for the dev environment setup, which pulls a bare ubuntu VM image, then runs ansible to do the setup for web development (install and configure LAMP, postfix, vhosts, whatever) [18:33] so what you're looking for is something on the ansible/puppet/chef side [18:34] you can probably do the same thing with docker, but I never really managed to understand docker as it tries to be both a container provider as well as manage the container setup etc. itself [18:34] somewhere on my todo list [18:39] then again, ansible/chef/puppet/etc. are just tools to help you to set up complex environments. You could do the same thing with a shell script - it would just be less modular if you ever want to reuse something [18:43] do we have tools to checkout from KDE git? [18:54] Riddell yofel: where does KCI get the git source code from? Im looking for kdepim_4:15.08.1-git20150923.0206 [18:56] clivejo: git clone kde:kdepim [18:56] after you add this to your ~.gitconfig [18:56] [url "git://anongit.kde.org/"] [18:56] insteadOf = kde: [18:56] [url "ssh://git@git.kde.org/"] [18:56] pushInsteadOf = kde: [18:56] thanks yofel :) [18:59] magic! [19:09] yofel: on KCI, kdepim is failing. Is there an easy way of just grabbing the source package so I dont have to download the entire git archive? [19:17] sure, just fetch the package from the PPA [19:18] clivejo: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages [19:19] that would be a lot easier! [19:29] yofel: how do I enable the kci ppas from within pbuilder? [19:30] pbuilder login --save-after-login, then edit the sources.list [19:30] log in and modifed source list? [19:30] no easy way ;P [19:32] so frameworks, plasma and apps are all in that ppa together? [19:32] you could also set OTHERMIRROR and use something like --overrideconfig, but I never tried that [19:33] AFAIK yes [19:34] maybe I should copy the chroot [19:34] keep one for KCI building? [19:48] if you often plant to work with it, that's a good idea [19:48] I keep various project chroots myself [19:49] seems to be working :) [19:49] spoke too soon! [20:03] o/ soee [20:04] hiho [20:05] you home? [20:05] yu, just arrived [20:06] do you work late? [20:06] i have ~ 2 hours :-) than need some sleep [20:11] get a chance to check on that kontact crash? [20:29] what was it ? [20:35] feeds crashing [20:37] if konact shares feeds function with kagregator that it is known :) [20:38] it was resolved for me, but back in 15.08.01 [20:47] clivejo: there is a lot of bugs relate to akregator crash [20:47] so if kontact uses same code, it might also crash [20:48] did it get resolved for you in 15.08.0? [20:48] clivejo: nope, i added trace to some existing bug report [20:48] oh [20:49] it was working great for me [20:49] i didn;t ty it yes on 15.08.1 but i doubt it was fixed [20:49] *it yet [20:49] then updated to 15.08,1 and bam crashing again [20:54] :) [20:58] soee: done be smiling at me!! Its not amusing in the slightest :P [20:58] dont [20:59] I rely on the RSS feeds a lot [21:00] it just fails atm :) [21:03] yofel: I have created a copy of my pbuilder environment and added the kci unstable PPA to it. I dget the source and build it in pbuilder, but I cant get passed the build dep checks, am I doing something worng? [21:03] please pastebin all the output it gives you [21:05] yofel: https://paste.kde.org/pawhtychx [21:19] clivejo: hm, it certainly only finds an outdated version of akonadi [21:19] is there an unstable version of akonadi or do I need to add another PPA? [21:20] hm, no.. it's in the same ppa [21:20] clivejo: what does 'apt-cache policy libkf5akonadiserver-dev' say in the chroot? [21:21] gimme a sec, Ill have to restart it [21:21] oh [21:21] Setting up libkf5akonadiserver-dev (4:15.08.1+git20150923.0050+15.10-0) ... [21:21] yofel: clivejo Setting up libkf5akonadiserver-dev (4:15.08.1+git20150923.0050+15.10-0) [21:21] hm [21:21] snap :) [21:21] heh [21:27] oh duh [21:27] $ apt-cache showsrc libkf5akonadi-dev [21:27] Package: kdepimlibs [21:28] why couldn't they just split that out [21:28] clivejo: kdepimlibs is FTBFS, you'll have to fix that first [21:29] ok that makes sense, but how did that kdepim build in KCI get past it?! [21:30] the logs indicate that the problem with that build is missing files? [21:31] that is also a good question [21:31] Setting up libkf5akonadi-dev (4:15.08.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1) ... [21:31] your log at least shows that it didn't pull all stuff from the CI ppa [21:32] now, why it did that I'm not sure, that part is missing from your paste [21:34] I may be missing something of your specific build versions here, but I'm reading that QtSpeech isn't available until QT 5.6, and the build log indicates QT 5.4 libraries being installed [21:34] yofel: I mean this build - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/218613790/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.kdepim_4%3A15.08.1%2Bgit20150923.0206%2B15.10-0_BUILDING.txt.gz [21:36] Get:232 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ci/unstable/ubuntu/ wily/main libkf5akonadi-dev amd64 4:15.08.0+git20150915.0151+15.10-0 [178 kB] [21:36] that installed the correct akonadi version [21:36] (ignore me, I just re-read the error) [21:36] 20150915 [21:37] it uses the last stable? [21:37] it uses the last that actually built successfully [21:38] I guess that was just luck? [21:38] pimlibs hadnt been published [21:38] well, LP always keeps the last successfully built binaries [21:39] so I'm wondering why your chroot failed to get those [21:39] * clivejo has no idea [21:39] Hello, where do I file bugs found when testing new Kubuntu ISO from http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/346/builds/102863/testcases ? [21:43] dmatt: application bugs preferably to bugs.kde.org where appropriate, everything else on launchpad using ubuntu-bug and the package in question (e.g. ubuntu-bug ubiquity). Then you can add the bug number to the test case [21:48] thanks. When I start live cd, change language to some non english and pick live session option, live session itself is still in english. Is this considered bug or feature ? :) [21:52] hmmm [21:52] no option within the live session to change to the other language? [21:52] certainly sounds like a bug to me [21:54] it's actually a feature I fear [21:54] as we're trying to not let the image size get out of hand, there's practically no translations on it [21:56] we might want to think about maybe adding another fully localized image set to the release next cycle - considering ovidiu did want something like that [21:59] it would be cool to have that available if people are going to want it [21:59] I mean, that's what u-kylin is [21:59] the French do one sometimes [21:59] as a remix [22:02] I thought that language translations is the reason why it's currently marked oversized :) [22:03] nevermind I was just trying to clarify test-case [22:04] no, that was some other random stuff getting pulled in [22:04] thanks for testing the image in any case and bringing this up [22:06] i've seen some graphical glitch in KInfoCenter, apart from that everythings seems to start and run in very brief test [22:28] yofel: how do I retry the kdepim build now? [22:31] I triggered a new build [22:33] * clivejo crosses fingers [22:34] I think it will fail [22:35] probably ^^ [22:35] theres changed files I think [22:35] * clivejo tried in pbuilder to [22:38] theres a surprise [22:38] that was fast [22:39] kholiday [22:40] and it was a so5 ABI break [22:40] has [22:40] Ive no idea how to fix that [22:40] I'm off to bed in any case [22:40] gn [22:41] LOL good idea [22:41] good night