| tsimonq2 | do we have a team for old bug cleanup? | 00:19 |
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| tsimonq2 | nevermind, as I see Will Cooke's announcement | 00:24 |
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| fluffy | hi | 13:58 |
| fluffy | I installed a light Ubuntu remix to a compaq presario 920 and there are a few programs which fail to start with the "illegal instruction" error. The proc lacks sse2 instruction. | 13:59 |
| fluffy | here is the list of flags: | 14:00 |
| fluffy | flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mp mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow vmmcall | 14:00 |
| fluffy | my question is: | 14:00 |
| fluffy | are all computers running Ubuntu supposed to come with the sse2 instruction nowadays? | 14:00 |
| fluffy | if so would it be better to install another distribution? | 14:00 |
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| melodie | it seems there isn't anyone around at this time? | 14:07 |
| teward | melodie: I think the issue is a support question, not a bugs question...? | 14:22 |
| teward | and "a light Ubuntu remix" sounds like a non-official release/version/flavor? | 14:22 |
| melodie | hi teward yes, this is the Bento Openbox remix I am talking about | 14:23 |
| melodie | so the type of compilation is unrelated | 14:23 |
| melodie | and I wanted to ask here, because I don't know if this is a bug or if this is a general direction for packages to be built without the sse instruction? | 14:24 |
| melodie | if midori and glxgears / glxinfo should be compiled with the sse instruction, then I will do a bug report or check if I find one | 14:25 |
| teward | melodie: i don't think it's a package specific thing, SSE instruction set support has to come from the CPU. | 14:27 |
| teward | my processor on my 14.04 box shows sse and sse2 flags on my processor | 14:27 |
| teward | so if your processor doesn't show that instruction set then that's less a package issue, i think, and more a hardware one | 14:28 |
| melodie | teward, this machine has sse but not sse2 | 14:28 |
| teward | and if your computer has sse but the package does not, then it's a package issue | 14:28 |
| teward | OR the package needs sse2 for some reason | 14:28 |
| teward | and your processor is old | 14:28 |
| melodie | it's an old amd athlon xp 2000+ | 14:28 |
| teward | melodie: that'd be a question for the developers, and potentially not a bug | 14:28 |
| melodie | oh ok | 14:29 |
| teward | perhaps they only support sse2 in that pacakge | 14:29 |
| melodie | so I head to #ubuntu-devel ? | 14:29 |
| teward | in which case that's... a different problem | 14:29 |
| teward | note I'm guessing, I'm not an expert in instruction set compatibility | 14:29 |
| melodie | for what I can see at the moment, xxxterm browser works, xchat works, sakura console works, so do gcompris and pingus | 14:30 |
| melodie | and libreoffice | 14:31 |
| melodie | midori doesn't (but it's a ppa, the official one being too old and buggy anyway) | 14:31 |
| melodie | but glxinfo and glxgears don't work | 14:31 |
| melodie | and they are official packages | 14:31 |
| melodie | galculator works too | 14:31 |
| melodie | most programms seem to work | 14:32 |
| teward | melodie: then ask in #ubuntu-devel but keep in mind I am not developer on those packages | 14:32 |
| teward | but if it's a more global issue then the issue tracks back to hardware support of instruction sets | 14:33 |
| melodie | $ LANG=C glxinfo | 14:39 |
| melodie | name of display: :0 | 14:39 |
| melodie | Illegal instruction (core dumped) | 14:39 |
| phillw | Hi, ubuntu-bug is insisting that galculator is not an official package. What is the correct format to report a bug against ubuntu-bug? Thanks. | 15:18 |
| melodie | phillw, ? | 15:18 |
| phillw | melodie: as I ask, above :) | 15:19 |
| melodie | what is the matter with galculator? | 15:19 |
| teward | phillw: is it installed from a PPA or the main repos? | 15:19 |
| teward | if it's installed from a PPA or a non-ubuntu-repositories source, it'll give that | 15:19 |
| teward | apt-cache policy galculator | 15:19 |
| phillw | melodie: they have fixed bug 1474571 | 15:19 |
| ubot5 | bug 1474571 in galculator (Ubuntu) "galculator segfaults in paper mode and selecting prefrences " [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1474571 | 15:19 |
| teward | check which version is installed, and from which source | 15:19 |
| phillw | teward, it is in the beta 2 installer. | 15:20 |
| melodie | it's a package in Universe | 15:20 |
| phillw | which was sync'd up yesterday with debian in order to fix | 15:20 |
| teward | oh you mean the one downloading right now *points at the fifteen things downloading, all Ubuntu-isms* | 15:20 |
| melodie | and it's also part of the lubuntu-desktop meta package | 15:20 |
| phillw | teward: nope.. the one in the iso builds dated 22nd :) | 15:21 |
| melodie | teward, thanks for your help, I have to quit now | 15:21 |
| teward | phillw: you mean the one i'm downloading now because i didn't pull the daily ;P | 15:21 |
| phillw | teward: hmm, how did it get into the iso's? Just out of curiosity, | 15:22 |
| teward | phillw: no clue, ask #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-release perhaps? | 15:22 |
| phillw | I'll leave trying to report the bug until you have got caught up. give me a poke in the ribs when you're done, if you would be so kind. | 15:22 |
| teward | phillw: i'm not a developer of that package, hence the suggestion poking -devel or -release | 15:23 |
| teward | i'm not gonna be a proxy lol | 15:23 |
| * teward has his own tests to run | 15:23 | |
| teward | phillw: which beta2 iso? Lubuntu? | 15:24 |
| teward | (assumed) | 15:24 |
| phillw | teward: yeah, us and Mate use it, afaik | 15:24 |
| teward | phillw: what's the actual issues you're trying to report though | 15:29 |
| teward | i.e. why're you using ubuntu-bug | 15:29 |
| teward | :p- | 15:29 |
| teward | phillw: is it an instruction set error? | 15:30 |
| teward | (i.e. Illegal instruction (core dump)) ? | 15:30 |
| phillw | in paper mode, you cannot type anything in. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker tells us... | 15:30 |
| phillw | with an application: ubuntu-bug PACKAGE_NAME | 15:30 |
| phillw | core dumps tend to trigger apport for us :) | 15:31 |
| teward | phillw: you may want to talk to the person who synced it last | 15:31 |
| phillw | okies, I'll have a dig later... got some more iso testing to do first :) | 15:32 |
| teward | phillw: give me reproduction steps | 15:32 |
| teward | i'm almost done downloading the iso, so :P | 15:33 |
| phillw | teward: launch galculator, switch 'view' to paper mode. Expected result "Able to type in numbers / symbols" Actual result "Unable to type anything in" | 15:34 |
| teward | phillw: confirm the version you have installed | 15:35 |
| phillw | hmm, could be me using it wrong... Just fired up 14.04 (v 2.1.3) and I cannot type in that, either :/ | 15:37 |
| phillw | in 15.10 it is v 2.1.4 | 15:37 |
| teward | phillw: do an update/upgrade with apt just to make sure | 15:37 |
| teward | (ubuntu-bug not working suggests something's out of date.) | 15:37 |
| teward | and tjaalton wasn't able to verify the issue | 15:37 |
| teward | [2015-09-23 11:37:32] <tjaalton> so first upgrade to current wily and try again.. | 15:38 |
| teward | [2015-09-23 11:37:39] <tjaalton> it's fine here | 15:38 |
| phillw | I'll ask ianlorin about it. | 15:38 |
| teward | ok | 15:38 |
| phillw | teward: I have 15.10 as my working machine, it has just been updated and issue still persists | 15:39 |
| snadge | what does rls-w-incoming mean? | 22:18 |
| snadge | https://bugs.launchpad.net/network-manager/+bug/1498474 | 22:19 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1498474 in NetworkManager "Incorrect MTU on VPN connect" [Medium,In progress] | 22:19 |
| TJ- | snadge: it's a tag for the qa release manager reporting: http://www.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/ | 22:23 |
| snadge | cool.. so the bug i reported will hopefully get fixed before release :P | 23:09 |
| wxl | so i have a user that filed a bug 1499037, currently private. i tried to check it to finally get it public, but i can't see it, despite being an active bug squad and bug control member. what am i missing? | 23:54 |
| ubot5 | Error: Launchpad bug 1499037 could not be found | 23:54 |
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