[00:19] <tsimonq2> do we have a team for old bug cleanup?
[00:24] <tsimonq2> nevermind, as I see Will Cooke's announcement
[13:58] <fluffy> hi
[13:59] <fluffy> I installed a light Ubuntu remix to a compaq presario 920 and there are a few programs which fail to start with the "illegal instruction" error. The proc lacks sse2 instruction.
[14:00] <fluffy> here is the list of flags:
[14:00] <fluffy> flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mp mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow vmmcall
[14:00] <fluffy> my question is:
[14:00] <fluffy> are all computers running Ubuntu supposed to come with the sse2 instruction nowadays?
[14:00] <fluffy> if so would it be better to install another distribution?
[14:07] <melodie> it seems there isn't anyone around at this time?
[14:22] <teward> melodie: I think the issue is a support question, not a bugs question...?
[14:22] <teward> and "a light Ubuntu remix" sounds like a non-official release/version/flavor?
[14:23] <melodie> hi teward yes, this is the Bento Openbox remix I am talking about
[14:23] <melodie> so the type of compilation is unrelated
[14:24] <melodie> and I wanted to ask here, because I don't know if this is a bug or if this is a general direction for packages to be built without the sse instruction?
[14:25] <melodie> if midori and glxgears / glxinfo should be compiled with the sse instruction, then I will do a bug report or check if I find one
[14:27] <teward> melodie: i don't think it's a package specific thing, SSE instruction set support has to come from the CPU.
[14:27] <teward> my processor on my 14.04 box shows sse and sse2 flags on my processor
[14:28] <teward> so if your processor doesn't show that instruction set then that's less a package issue, i think, and more a hardware one
[14:28] <melodie> teward, this machine has sse but not sse2
[14:28] <teward> and if your computer has sse but the package does not, then it's a package issue
[14:28] <teward> OR the package needs sse2 for some reason
[14:28] <teward> and your processor is old
[14:28] <melodie> it's an old amd athlon xp 2000+
[14:28] <teward> melodie: that'd be a question for the developers, and potentially not a bug
[14:29] <melodie> oh ok
[14:29] <teward> perhaps they only support sse2 in that pacakge
[14:29] <melodie> so I head to #ubuntu-devel ?
[14:29] <teward> in which case that's... a different problem
[14:29] <teward> note I'm guessing, I'm not an expert in instruction set compatibility
[14:30] <melodie> for what I can see at the moment, xxxterm browser works, xchat works, sakura console works, so do gcompris and pingus
[14:31] <melodie> and libreoffice
[14:31] <melodie> midori doesn't (but it's a ppa, the official one being too old and buggy anyway)
[14:31] <melodie> but glxinfo and glxgears don't work
[14:31] <melodie> and they are official packages
[14:31] <melodie> galculator works too
[14:32] <melodie> most programms seem to work
[14:32] <teward> melodie: then ask in #ubuntu-devel but keep in mind I am not developer on those packages
[14:33] <teward> but if it's a more global issue then the issue tracks back to hardware support of instruction sets
[14:39] <melodie> $ LANG=C glxinfo
[14:39] <melodie> name of display: :0
[14:39] <melodie> Illegal instruction (core dumped)
[15:18] <phillw> Hi, ubuntu-bug is insisting that galculator is not an official package. What is the correct format to report a bug against ubuntu-bug? Thanks.
[15:18] <melodie> phillw, ?
[15:19] <phillw> melodie: as I ask, above :)
[15:19] <melodie> what is the matter with galculator?
[15:19] <teward> phillw: is it installed from a PPA or the main repos?
[15:19] <teward> if it's installed from a PPA or a non-ubuntu-repositories source, it'll give that
[15:19] <teward> apt-cache policy galculator
[15:19] <phillw> melodie: they have fixed bug 1474571
[15:19] <teward> check which version is installed, and from which source
[15:20] <phillw> teward, it is in the beta 2 installer.
[15:20] <melodie> it's a package in Universe
[15:20] <phillw> which was sync'd up yesterday with debian in order to fix
[15:20] <teward> oh you mean the one downloading right now *points at the fifteen things downloading, all Ubuntu-isms*
[15:20] <melodie> and it's also part of the lubuntu-desktop meta package
[15:21] <phillw> teward: nope.. the one in the iso builds dated 22nd :)
[15:21] <melodie> teward, thanks for your help, I have to quit now
[15:21] <teward> phillw: you mean the one i'm downloading now because i didn't pull the daily ;P
[15:22] <phillw> teward: hmm, how did it get into the iso's? Just out of curiosity,
[15:22] <teward> phillw: no clue, ask #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-release perhaps?
[15:22] <phillw> I'll leave trying to report the bug until you have got caught up. give me a poke in the ribs when you're done, if you would be so kind.
[15:23] <teward> phillw: i'm not a developer of that package, hence the suggestion poking -devel or -release
[15:23] <teward> i'm not gonna be a proxy lol
[15:23]  * teward has his own tests to run
[15:24] <teward> phillw: which beta2 iso?  Lubuntu?
[15:24] <teward> (assumed)
[15:24] <phillw> teward: yeah, us and Mate use it, afaik
[15:29] <teward> phillw: what's the actual issues you're trying to report though
[15:29] <teward> i.e. why're you using ubuntu-bug
[15:29] <teward> :p-
[15:30] <teward> phillw: is it an instruction set error?
[15:30] <teward> (i.e. Illegal instruction (core dump)) ?
[15:30] <phillw> in paper mode, you cannot type anything in.  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker tells us...
[15:30] <phillw> with an application:                                    ubuntu-bug PACKAGE_NAME
[15:31] <phillw> core dumps tend to trigger apport for us :)
[15:31] <teward> phillw: you may want to talk to the person who synced it last
[15:32] <phillw> okies, I'll have a dig later... got some more iso testing to do first :)
[15:32] <teward> phillw: give me reproduction steps
[15:33] <teward> i'm almost done downloading the iso, so :P
[15:34] <phillw> teward: launch galculator, switch 'view' to paper mode. Expected result "Able to type in numbers / symbols" Actual result "Unable to type anything in"
[15:35] <teward> phillw: confirm the version you have installed
[15:37] <phillw> hmm, could be me using it wrong... Just fired up 14.04 (v 2.1.3) and I cannot type in that, either :/
[15:37] <phillw> in 15.10 it is v 2.1.4
[15:37] <teward> phillw: do an update/upgrade with apt just to make sure
[15:37] <teward> (ubuntu-bug not working suggests something's out of date.)
[15:37] <teward> and tjaalton wasn't able to verify the issue
[15:38] <teward> [2015-09-23 11:37:32] <tjaalton> so first upgrade to current wily and try again..
[15:38] <teward> [2015-09-23 11:37:39] <tjaalton> it's fine here
[15:38] <phillw> I'll ask ianlorin about it.
[15:38] <teward> ok
[15:39] <phillw> teward: I have 15.10 as my working machine, it has just been updated and issue still persists
[22:18] <snadge> what does rls-w-incoming mean?
[22:19] <snadge> https://bugs.launchpad.net/network-manager/+bug/1498474
[22:23] <TJ-> snadge: it's a tag for the qa release manager reporting: http://www.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/
[23:09] <snadge> cool.. so the bug i reported will hopefully get fixed before release :P
[23:54] <wxl> so i have a user that filed a bug 1499037, currently private. i tried to check it to finally get it public, but i can't see it, despite being an active bug squad and bug control member. what am i missing?