[11:11] <darkxst> ricotz, last bits of 3.18 core are incoming ;)
[11:18] <mgedmin> 3.18 in wiley?  am I living in a dream?
[11:20] <darkxst> mgedmin, ppa
[11:21] <mgedmin> awesome
[11:24] <darkxst> mgedmin, atleast -shell, g-s-d/g-c-c will be up soon
[11:24] <darkxst> apps should follow in the next few days
[11:28] <darkxst> Noskcaj, do you have any time for 3.18 apps?
[11:40] <ricotz> darkxst, yeah ;)
[11:48] <ricotz> darkxst, are you looking at goa?
[11:48] <darkxst> ricotz, not yet, you can ;)
[11:48] <darkxst> merging the langpack stuff into g-c-c now
[11:49] <ricotz> I see ;) -- an update isn't suppose to be strictly needed for gvfs though
[11:52] <darkxst> the google drive support?
[11:55] <darkxst> Inoki, did you file the UIFe for wallpapers?
[11:57] <ricotz> darkxst, yes
[11:59] <Inoki> darkxst: I passed that request to the team, I haven't done it before and don't know the procedure. I asked Alfredo now if it has been done.
[12:00] <darkxst> Inoki, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#UserInterfaceFreeze_Exceptions
[12:04] <Inoki> Ok, so basically what we need to change are just the wallpapers, from the ones with the logo to the ones without. Alfredo also said he can shrink the image sizes in favour of greater dimensions to cover more screen resolutions.
[12:06] <ricotz> Inoki, hi, are there note about how this logo was chosen?
[12:06] <ricotz> *notes
[12:06] <Inoki> Hi rico, not notes really, we discussed it in our private channel on Telegram (more efficient than mailing lists for graphical work).
[12:07] <ricotz> Inoki, I see, no offence, but I am not very happy with it
[12:08] <ricotz> darkxst, so much for not test building gvfs ;)
[12:08] <Inoki> ricotz: some like it, some don't, the same case with every logo everywhere. There was a time to say your opinions, now is really not the time for major changes sorry.
[12:09] <Inoki> We may of course improve/change in the near future, but as busy as everyone was this is all we got.
[12:09] <ricotz> Inoki, don't worry
[12:13] <Inoki> darkxst aldomann_ is here
[12:13] <aldomann_> hi
[12:13] <aldomann_> lol, why is that my name?
[12:13] <Inoki> What client do you use?
[12:13] <aldomann_> polari
[12:13] <darkxst> ricotz, it was discussed on the lists, there were trademark issues using the gnome foor by itself
[12:13] <Inoki> Thought so. Even if you disconnect you're still here. Pidgin disconnects you completely.
[12:13] <darkxst> foot
[12:14] <Inoki> Polari doesn't
[12:14] <Inoki> Clearly, using the Gnome foot as a standalone creates a lot of confusion. It is practically Gnome itself, not ubuntu gnome.
[12:14] <aldomann> changed it :)
[12:14] <Inoki> Goodie
[12:15] <aldomann> ah, it is because the name is registered
[12:15] <aldomann> by me (probably)
[12:15] <Inoki> So darkxst, about that UI exception, it states there "give a rationale why the benefits of it are worth breaking existing documentation and translations." - with that wallpaper changed we aren't breaking anything.
[12:15] <aldomann> and needs a pasword
[12:15] <Inoki> There's no need for documentation or translation changes.
[12:15] <aldomann> true that
[12:15] <darkxst> Inoki, yes that is what you say in the UI exception!
[12:15] <Inoki> :D
[12:16] <Inoki> darkxst: we didn't do that yet, because Alfredo will do his compression magic now, then we will.
[12:17] <aldomann> pngquant magic, to be more precise
[12:23] <Inoki> ricotz: not sure did you get the chance to read the background behind it https://www.behance.net/gallery/25233455/Ubuntu-GNOME
[12:23] <Inoki> background story*
[12:25] <ricotz> Inoki, haven't read it, but yeah, the reason doing this is obvious
[12:32] <aldomann> darkxst: what's the limit in MB for the wallpapers? (both wall and lock)
[12:33] <darkxst> aldomann, no hard limit
[12:33] <darkxst> just not too big
[12:33] <aldomann> I was wondering, the wall is so simple that JPG might be a good format for them
[12:34] <aldomann> I mean, 100% quality in JPG is smaller than compressed PNG
[12:34] <darkxst> how much smaller?
[12:34] <Inoki> Just zoom in and see after you compress them. Sometimes quality goes down visibly even at 100%.
[12:36] <mgedmin> isn't pngquant also lossy (unlike, say, pngcrunch)?
[12:36] <aldomann> yeah, true
[12:37] <aldomann> if we go for lossy, I'd go for JPG
[12:38] <aldomann> jpg at 95% of quality represents a 30% size of the original PNG
[12:38] <aldomann> whilst pngquant is 90-80%
[12:42] <Inoki> Sounds good to me, the jpeg format
[12:43] <aldomann> all right
[12:44] <aldomann> Inoki:  sending you the files via Telegram
[12:45] <Inoki> Got them aldomann
[12:48] <Inoki> I'll have a look at it today in a bit darkxst, then I'll let you know so you can have a look if I did everything correctly.
[12:55] <darkxst> Inoki, email me, I'll be off to bed soonish
[13:18] <aldomann> does anyone know if Polari supports automatic password identification?
[13:18] <aldomann> I mean, having to log-in each time via /msg NickServ is less than ideal
[13:28] <darkxst> ricotz, g-c-c pushed, I'm out for the night
[13:30] <darkxst> hmm you gdk-pixbuf upload broke my gnome-desktop3 build?
[13:30] <ricotz> darkxst, just the ppa was inconsistent for a moment
[13:32] <LinDol> hi all
[13:32] <LinDol> :)
[13:33] <darkxst> ricotz, ok
[13:33] <darkxst> LinDol, Hi and bye
[13:33]  * darkxst sleeps
[13:34] <LinDol> darkxst, have a good night ;)
[14:53] <Inoki> What's the kernel Wily will be using?
[17:15] <ricotz> Inoki, 4.2.x
[17:17] <Inoki> Ouch, that's far too high for the drivers I need, but good for others :3
[17:17] <Inoki> I use proprietary Radeon drivers compatible w/ up to 3.19
[17:46] <ricotz> Inoki, the fglrx driver shipped with ubuntu supports it
[17:47] <ricotz> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/2:15.201-0ubuntu1
[18:55] <Inoki> Am back ricotz for a while. Good to know all I'll need to do is change from FOSS to fglrx via GUI in Wily :3
[18:56] <Inoki> I have problematic HW you know.
[20:58] <pietrek> Hi i have problem with ubuntu gnome shell. Sometimes when I switch window or press super key, the windows or workspaces overlap to each other. I have ubuntu 14.04.
[23:11] <darkxst> Inoki, what happened to the justification?
[23:11] <darkxst> in the UIFe?
[23:20] <krispy> hi all, new to irc so forgive the newbness plz :)
[23:22] <krispy> anyone here?