[01:24] <average_guy> its masochism aedend, arch is all you need
[01:26] <average_guy> pft, gone anyway
[01:28] <average_guy> I'm playing w/linux again.  I have a desktop, and laptop w/win and a headless ubuntu server with a printer hooked to it that I want network accessable
[01:29] <average_guy> I know it can be done, much googling happening
[03:49] <cyberanger> average_guy: cups
[03:49] <cyberanger> by default the web interface only binds to localhost:631
[03:50] <cyberanger> you have two options, open it wider (or my preferred) ssh user@server -L 6310:localhost 631 and then point iceweasel at localhost:6310
[03:50] <cyberanger> keeps things locked down
[11:27] <average_guy> I am looking at /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.  I havent broken it yet though, still reading
[11:29] <average_guy> and it's backed up.  I dont give a crap about security, I want printing for everyone
[17:08] <johnhaitas> i need to get znc set back up :-) i think that's what i was using
[17:08] <johnhaitas> i guess wrst isn't as active anymore :-/
[17:45] <cyberanger> johnhaitas: he is, just we all get busy and I think you'll find he is a little more now than what you remember
[17:45] <cyberanger> family man, right wrst
[17:46] <cyberanger> johnhaitas: I'm not sure if that's what you were using, but it is what I use and like
[17:46] <cyberanger> wrst: uses quassel, another option
[17:47] <cyberanger> I used to use irssi and screen, then irssi-proxy, znc with the work mac, my debian laptop and andchat for android is perfect for me
[17:47] <cyberanger> esp. when I added pushbullet to znc
[18:26] <johnhaitas> i used znc for the scrollback across machines/clients as i recall now
[18:54] <Juzzy> yay my xmas lights ship tomorrow
[18:54] <Juzzy> anyone want to take a wild stab at the weight?
[19:20] <wrst> johnhaitas: kids, kids they suck all your time away!
[19:20] <wrst> or in my case kid!
[19:20] <johnhaitas> i'm on my way to that
[19:21] <wrst> its great but certainly redirects your recreational time, and congrats!
[19:24] <wrst> johnhaitas: I really like quassel for the scrollback, it isn't the best client out there, but the client works on everything, windows, osx, android, ios is a paid client but pretty nice from that standpoint, if you want to be that connected
[20:52] <cyberanger> Finally, I think I've finally got obfsproxy and openvpn to play nice together
[20:52] <cyberanger> have my configs set to use it (and for a really bad day, tor) too (not as the primary server, primary is still direct)
[20:53] <cyberanger> have to get my wiki and blog up, not to mention my new site
[20:53] <cyberanger> so in case I get distraced in trying to finish that, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everybody
[20:54] <cyberanger> (only slightly kidding, not enough time for my todo list)
[23:20] <aedend> aedend,
[23:22] <aedend> built hexchat from source... not sure it is going so well...
[23:22] <Unit193> Why'd you do that?
[23:23] <aedend> I wanted to learn more about how things work
[23:24] <aedend> It's easy to install a deb package. I wanted to know what all goes into making that deb
[23:25] <Unit193> Well, not precisely like building from source, and it sure isn't checkinstall. :P
[23:27] <cyberanger> Did you verify your source code? >:-)
[23:27] <aedend> Unit193, I got to reading this http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO-4.html Because I wanted to learn
[23:28] <aedend> It had some valid points, plus I wanted to know how everything works behind the scenes
[23:28] <Unit193> https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging or https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ I'd say.
[23:28] <Unit193> cyberanger: I actually do when I compile a kernel!
[23:29] <cyberanger> Unit193: +1
[23:29] <Unit193> getkernel.sh grabs the detached sig and will extract the tarball if it's all a-ok.
[23:29] <aedend> Unit193, nice! thanks
[23:29]  * cyberanger coughs cheat
[23:30]  * cyberanger inhales coughdrop, then really starts coughing and throwing a fit
[23:30] <Unit193> cyberanger: Heeey, I wrote it!  And it makes sure it gets checked! :P
[23:31] <cyberanger> Ah, that's a little better, doesn't help my coughdrop problem though
[23:32] <aedend> could one of you use my nick please, I need to see if the pearl script for highlights loaded correctly
[23:32] <aedend> *perl
[23:33] <Unit193> As in, ping aedend.
[23:33] <aedend> Unit193, haha, yeah. and... it works!
[23:33] <cyberanger> aedend: no I can't do that
[23:33] <cyberanger> sorry
[23:33] <cyberanger> D'Oh
[23:34] <aedend> thanks guys
[23:34] <aedend> or should I say, thank you Unit193 and cyberanger
[23:36] <aedend> I setup a new vm with xubuntu. Going to try and build a linux from scratch... I judge I'll learn the most from this endeavor
[23:36] <cyberanger> aedend: try arch too
[23:37] <aedend> cyberanger, I'm going to stick with LFS since I've read about 30% of the book so far.
[23:38] <aedend> oh, a little confusion there. I see what you were saying cyberanger
[23:38] <cyberanger> aedend: Arch Linux
[23:38] <aedend> yeah, I have a vm with it installed
[23:38] <cyberanger> Ah, okay
[23:38] <Unit193> I'm lazy, Bridge looks nice. :P
[23:39] <aedend> but I felt more comfortable using xubuntu for my custom build since I slightly more familiar with it
[23:39] <cyberanger> I think I've finally got my vpn network over tor back up and running
[23:40] <aedend> cyberanger, are you paying for a vpn somewhere?
[23:40] <cyberanger> Need to get the servers fully running too still, that'll take time to do right
[23:40] <cyberanger> yeah, somewhere ;-)
[23:41] <Unit193> Xubuntu?  I think I've heard of that one.
[23:41] <aedend> got it ;)
[23:42] <aedend> cyberanger, I was looking a Digital Ocean for hosting a vpn and maybe a wordpress site. Your thoughts on their service?
[23:42]  * aedend senses a little sarcasm from Unit193 :p
[23:43] <cyberanger> aedend: I have a few servers, (linode mostly, also use ColoCrossing, via servermania) and link them together via openvpn over tor
[23:43] <cyberanger> I'm working on changing how some of the systems are paid for and connect to each other
[23:43] <Unit193> A lot of people use and like DO, get a promo from wrst if you do though (will credit him and you, IIRC.)
[23:43] <cyberanger> I do also use private internet access
[23:44] <cyberanger> aedend: previous and current employers use them, I was happier with Zunicore and Linode honestly
[23:44] <aedend> Unit193, that is good information, if I decide to go with DO I will do that, thanks
[23:44] <cyberanger> think I've got a referral code with a similar deal for linode too
[23:45] <Unit193> Linode really declined so it seems.
[23:45] <cyberanger> I think I actually liked zunicore the most, just cost stings
[23:45] <aedend> cyberanger, I saw a comparison data sheet on DO and Linode, it seemed to me that DO was better
[23:46] <cyberanger> Unit193: They've gone through a hiring frenzy lately, and switched to KVM as a default, I can boot bare disk (images) too
[23:46] <cyberanger> it's the Lish console access that really sold me
[23:46] <Unit193> Well huh.
[23:46] <cyberanger> aedend: Any idea on when it was dated?
[23:47] <aedend> cyberanger, I have to look, I saw it last night, let me check
[23:48] <cyberanger> Unit193: I think they're really so close currently that it's simply a preference choice, I'd go with zunicore if they weren't more expensive, it's worth it, but I can't afford that yet
[23:49] <aedend> cyberanger, here is one I looked at  http://www.itekhost.net/digitalocean-vs-linode/  updated September 13, 2015
[23:53] <cyberanger> aedend: it might say updated in Sept. but I've had servers in Singapore since May, and Frankfurt using KVM since July I believe
[23:54] <cyberanger> so It's not really up to date
[23:54] <cyberanger> And when it says refunds, that's to get cash, not credit for another server
[23:56] <cyberanger> I'm not against them, but that comparison looks slanted, some valid points too (I don't recall linode's billing getting hacked, but they did have serious issues when people were doing bitcoin on them, somebody hacked them to raid their wallets)
[23:57] <Unit193> Yeah well starting out DO had some major design flaws. :P
[23:57] <cyberanger> That too, and I like that Linode will take money order and checks too
[23:57] <aedend> cyberanger, one of my questions was if big corporations are unable to secure users data on their servers, how can I trust these virtual hosting companies?
[23:58] <cyberanger> I think it was an inside job to be honest, so big or small, you can't from that
[23:59] <cyberanger> I think somebody was seeing low pay, guarding a bank vault (basically) that always had the door wide open
[23:59] <cyberanger> so they robbed the vault (bitcoin wallets on the VPS servers) and then clocked out like normal