[08:12] o/ [09:25] good day [10:14] Good morning [10:21] hi gremble [10:21] How are you magespawn? [10:25] good and you? [10:25] I am well thank you [10:26] Trying to decide on an editor to use. I have to re-setup both my emacs and vim if I want to use them, and not very keen at the moment [10:27] i use the stock vim, no custom settings [10:27] or what ever is on the system i am using at the moment [10:28] Yes, you're right. I should probably just use it. haha. [10:30] i am trying to set up a cisco 837 router [10:30] And? Successful? [10:32] well i have managed to connect to it through a console cable and minicom, but that is all so far [10:32] i have to learn the cisco commands [10:34] Ah alright [10:35] Not a lot of fun to have to work on a public holiday though :< [10:36] no this is not work, but education [10:36] Oh alright [10:36] That is not as bad [10:37] yup cisco manuals are rather large [10:37] looks like the preferred way is through the console [10:38] This book is quite hostile to python 3 -_- [10:38] python3, the mistake [10:39] kulelu88: why is that/ [10:39] ? [10:39] Might be the mistake, but that is what you will be using [10:41] don't mind me, I'm just fuelling flames. py3 is like systemd [10:42] Everyone hates it for no apparent reason? [10:43] the problem with py3 is that it doesn't bring major benefits while so many libs are still py2 [10:43] A lot of them have been ported. Most of those that haven't are orphaned anyway [10:44] The syntax for python3 is so far much nicer for me than python2. So I don't complain too much [10:47] i still use py2 [10:47] and I 3 [10:47] :P [10:47] I like stability [10:47] But I don't use python a lot [10:47] so it doesn't phase me [10:48] My friend wants me to build a quick statistical model, so I am playing around [10:48] what kind of model? [10:49] Card draw model. So I'll probably do hypergeometric or derive a similar model based on his theoretical parameters [10:49] brb [10:50] He is really into Magic the Gathering, so he wants me to help him theory craft a deck [11:01] back [11:06] Welcome back [11:08] looks like there is a web interface for the 837, but it has to be enabled first [11:33] okay got the web interface up and running [11:34] web interfaces on routers always make me worry that they are easily configurable from the outside. [11:35] you can set so much on this one, the security seems quite high [11:35] Ah alright [14:29] update: the webpage is refusing to load [14:30] Have you been waiting for it to load for the last 3 hours? [14:30] O.o [14:33] yes, but in my defense i did also going shopping and take a nap [14:35] Haha [14:35] I should take a nap [14:38] it does wonders for my outlook [14:41] It is true. If only it wasn't as hot [14:43] evil in emacs is amazing. I am not even going to lie [14:57] hi magespawn inetpro thatgraemeguy gremble and others as well [15:03] Hey Kilos [15:03] how are you doing [15:04] good ty and you [15:04] I'm well thank you [15:53] hi Kilos [16:16] good mornings [16:18] magespawn: don't do the web thingy, learn to do it the right way on the cli [16:44] ai! [16:54] inetpro: looks like at least in this case there is no option [16:56] it does take longer usually but does provide flexibility [17:27] hi inetpro [17:40] back like boomarang [17:51] haha [17:52] so where the clever telegram peeps [17:52] superfly? [17:54] i have an app called org.callgram.messenger.apk but dont know how to install it in telegram or run it [17:54] http://apkforubuntu.xyz/download/communication/org.callgram.messenger.html [18:03] Kilos: really!> [18:03] ? [18:03] really? inetpro [18:03] what you mean? [18:04] why try funny things like that? [18:04] well i dont want to use skype [18:04] have you tried https://desktop.telegram.org/ ? [18:04] that does not seem to be from the makers of telegram though [18:04] what other voip thing works on ubuntu and android [18:05] and there is an automatic download on that page [18:05] that looks highly suspicious [18:05] ai! [18:05] * inetpro agrees with magespawn [18:06] inetpro i have telegram [18:06] what the problem is? [18:06] but typing when you on your back is hard on the neck [18:06] hehe [18:06] easy to talk to debs than type to her [18:07] another very easy option is google hangouts [18:07] im trying to get away from all google stuffs [18:09] audio and video takes bandwidth anyway [18:09] audio less so but still more than text [18:10] and Telegram does not yet support the calling feature as others do [18:10] yes but i am prepared to use some to be able to voip [18:10] at least not that I'm aware of [18:10] oh i thought callgram was part of telegram peeps [18:11] if you want telegram stuff then you go to https://telegram.org/ [18:12] ive read that and many other pages over and over [18:12] een looked for them on irc [18:12] even [18:13] one day when we all grow up we will have a seemless cross-platform calling feature no matter what you use [18:13] in fact we already have it [18:13] it's called firefox hello [18:16] see https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/hello/ [18:20] wb octoquad [18:20] hi inetpro [18:24] Kilos: you gave up now already? [18:25] nope man was reading everywhere [18:27] haha and you know i really love firefox [18:28] oh i saw some sip thing [18:28] hmm... [18:29] sipwitch [18:29] in the repos [18:29] ai! [18:29] what ai! [18:30] secure peer-to-peer VoIP server for the SIP protocol [18:30] what does that mean [18:30] use the easy stuff that just works [18:30] hahaha jy word oud [18:31] nono anything involve with google is not for me [18:31] firefox works [18:32] and is fully open source [18:32] iya but through a browser first [18:32] what is wrong with the browser? [18:33] well [18:33] one can irs from a browser but we use ifrc clients rather, why is that [18:33] irc [18:34] whew hrad to type like this [18:34] hard [18:35] you wanted an easy way to talk, that doesn't involve google or skype [18:35] lol [18:35] ai! [18:36] so now you want me to install firefox aain [18:36] sigh [18:36] ai ai ai ai ai [18:36] no, go ahead, build your own thingymajig [18:36] ne man [18:36] sjoe ek sukkel [18:46] uh oh! [18:47] who stole my cheese? [18:48] That's what you get for messing with oom Kilos [18:49] hahahaha [18:49] superfly ++ [18:49] ai! [18:50] rofl [18:50] ty i needed that [18:50] superfly: you have another solution for audio calls for him? [18:51] sorry oom Kilos [18:51] np man [18:51] haha [18:52] * inetpro still trying to recover from a migraine [18:52] you have earned the right to mess with me [18:52] ai! sorry man [18:52] inetpro: when we call MrsFly's family we use Skype [18:52] yikes! [18:52] Apparently Viber is also good [18:54] its not serios ty guys i have skype [18:54] was just trying to keep you guys thinking maybe [18:55] seius [18:55] oh my [18:55] serious [18:56] hi Cryterion [18:56] Hi Kilos [18:57] and everyone else [18:57] inetpro 31 dec is 30 years, gotta end it now [18:57] huh? [18:58] haha he knows [18:58] you can get an inkling from [18:58] Maaz kilos.site [18:58] Kilos: kilos.site is http://mileys-site.yolasite.com and https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite [18:59] top one [18:59] cant remember what the second one was for [19:00] This website is not available. in 6 languages [19:00] oh my [19:00] that's the top 1 [19:00] i wonder who killed it [19:00] bottom one seems to be working [19:00] * tumbleweed investigates who killed it [19:01] hi tumbleweed [19:01] hi Kilos [19:01] hope all well there [19:01] hrm, there's no record of it being disabled [19:01] oh my [19:03] bottom one only has 2 video's, one has been suspended due to copyright, the other is a Tara auditioning [19:07] Kilos: I'm intrigued - we're trying ot figure out what happened [19:07] ty tumbleweed i can get to the dashboard and it sees me as me [19:08] tumbleweed: not an area restriction because of the videos/ [19:08] but dont know what to fiddle with [19:08] Kilos: yeah, it's disabled on the hosting side, but nowhere else [19:08] ? [19:08] Kilos: re-publish [19:09] i have to find how to edit or something [19:09] will see what i get ty [19:10] i dont have a publish button anywahere [19:10] sigh [19:10] Kilos: go to sitebuilder [19:11] "edit this site" gets you there [19:12] publishing [19:12] last update 1470 days ago [19:12] sjoe [19:13] yay ty tumbleweed [19:13] Cryterion its fixed [19:14] yup up and running [19:15] Kilos: sorry about that :( [19:15] ok, will look shortly [19:15] np tumbleweed ty for the help [19:15] smile man :D [19:18] hi MaNI [19:29] hi === MaNL is now known as MaNI [19:30] hi [19:30] MaNI: how's your solar power doing? [19:32] heh, pretty good, been running pc off it since about a week ago [19:32] but just a temporary ground setup still need to get it on the roof [19:35] ah, OK [19:38] gets about 70% capacity on the ground even with partial shading which is better than I expected [19:41] nice [19:41] by the time its on the roof there wont be loadshedding anymore [19:41] hehe [19:47] night all, sleep tight [19:54] heh - I've always said that once I get them load shedding will stop [19:55] but realistically I'm pretty sure we haven't seen the last of it [19:57] also last sunday we were off the whole day for maintenance, (this happens at least twice a year) was pretty cool not to care about that [20:01] bed time, good night all [20:02] Good night magespawn [20:12] Oh my. You can run haskell in a Jupyter notebook [20:51] I think we figured out what happened to Kilos' site. A nice gnarley distributed-systems bug [20:53] oh? [21:00] ancient site, wasn't on all the publishing clusters [21:00] so a request comes it for it, it tries to automatically get it published to the cluster [21:01] in the process, it sees that the enabled state is NULL, not True / False (yeah, shitty DB schema) [21:01] and replicates that out to all the clusters as False, not True [21:01] we recently cleaned up those NULLs to True, but this must have been before that [21:02] Was that the google one or the yolasite one? [21:02] Yola [21:05] ah, one of those [22:19] python's matplotlib prings plots practically exactly like matlab. Quite interesting