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Kniple_I got some weird battery issues with my mx4, after it has been fully charged, everything is fine, but the next time after that, the battery display icon doesnt update, it falls, and falls, and when it reaches 1%, it stays there. A reboot at that point resets the battery indicator.06:06
Kniple_anyone heard of anything of the like?06:06
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JonathanFergusonMy Nexus 7 (flo) is again bricked. - I picked it up from Asus Service Australia last Friday, after being there since 30 July.  They completed the work on the same day but did not notify me.07:15
JonathanFergusonI followed the instructions to the letter and my shell output is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12551688/07:15
JonathanFergusonAm I able to resurrect it myself?07:15
JonathanFergusonI also have a Nexus 7 (tilapia) that is not supported by ubuntu-device-flash07:15
JonathanFergusonI am able to build the images with phablet-dev-bootstrap07:15
JonathanFergusonTo minimise the problem of destroying the partitions, shalt I try the -u switch per:07:15
JonathanFergusonfastboot -u flash recovery ./recovery.img07:15
JonathanFergusonfastboot -u flash boot ./boot.img07:15
JonathanFergusonfastboot -u flash system ./system.img07:15
JonathanFergusonfastboot -u flash cache ./cache.img07:15
JonathanFergusonfastboot -u flash userdata ./userdata.img07:15
JonathanFergusonIs there a better method than IRC to work through my problems?07:15
guest42315JonathanFerguson, just leave the irc opened, you'll be notified when someone (dev maybe) will replay to you07:20
guest42315JonathanFerguson, irc is not instant and the devs are usually @11-12 (in 1-2 hours)07:20
guest42315JonathanFerguson, you can also report the bug on launchpad i guess07:21
dholbachgood morning07:21
JonathanFergusonguest42315: Regarding IRC, my problem is that the only computer with an IRC computer is Microsoft and it's blue screening very often.07:22
guest42315install ubuntu :P07:22
guest42315mornin' dholbach07:22
dholbachhi guest4231507:22
guest42315JonathanFerguson, maybe open a bug report here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image07:27
guest42315JonathanFerguson,  nexus 7 is a supported device i belive07:27
guest42315JonathanFerguson, there is also ubuntu phone mailing list https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone07:30
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday, and happy Comic Book Day! 😃08:57
CaptainHeavyHello :) I've just downloaded some updates for various apps on my phone, is there any way I can see a changelog for these updates?09:28
davmor2CaptainHeavy: each app in the store will give you a change log09:32
CaptainHeavydavmor2: cheers!  It'd be nice to be able to see a changelog in the app update screen.  So, if you click on the update it would show you the changelog below, similar to the iOS update screen.09:34
CaptainHeavydavmor2: sorry if that's superfluous info by the way!09:34
davmor2CaptainHeavy: feel free to file a bug09:34
CaptainHeavydavmor2: :)  By the way, is there a changelog for the "core" apps, i.e. "Phone" and "Messaging"?  I saw they were updated.09:36
davmor2CaptainHeavy: hmm not sure09:39
noisychanneljoin09:43
noisychannelhello?09:43
noisychannelquit09:44
myzticwish me luck, about to install ubuntu touch on my new lenovo a10 tablet :))09:56
vitimitimyztic, good luck, then09:56
myzticsudo fastboot oem unlock kind of stucks, htop says it has 0.0% cpu and 0.1% memory usage10:09
myzticis it normal that this takes a while?10:09
myztic(I don't think so)10:09
myzticand a follow up: is it safe to ctrl-c this now? or might something brake in a way I won't be able to recover?10:11
myzticnot "is it safe" but "do you think it is safe" ( I won't hold you responsible for any damage or such, so you just merely state your opinion and how sure/unsure you are ;))10:12
ogra_what would you expect from "fastboot oem unlock" on that tablet ? is that a documented command for it ?10:20
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ogra_also what do you plan to install on it, did someone do a port to this device yet or do you plan to port it yourself ?10:21
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myzticogra_, no port10:49
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Knipleso, my battery is acting a bit strange: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28248122/screenshot20150925_132306599.png11:26
GLPaladinhello everybody11:37
GLPaladincan i ask .. ubuntu touch using ext4 - ext2 FS11:37
GLPaladin?11:37
popeyext411:38
popeyGLPaladin: http://termbin.com/qzm111:39
ogra_popey, we actually use ext2 on the readonly img files on nexus ;)11:39
ogra_so it depends on the port ... img based ones are ext2 for readonly ... partition based is always ext4 even for the readonly bits11:40
popeyinteresting11:41
popeyta11:41
GLPaladinyou mean i can format internal sd on EXT 2  try using every day ?11:41
GLPaladinwhere i can get rom.. firmware for Motorola xt894 (Droid 4 ) maserati platform....??11:42
ogra_that totaly depends on the port you are using ... today only the nextus devices use the loop mounted img's11:42
k1l_what about other FS like f2fs? android runs with yaffs iirc11:42
ogra_k1l_, nobody checkd performance and/or integration in our images  yet i think11:43
ogra_and indeed it totally depends on the HW again and weather you can or can not re-format the partitions11:43
ogra_!devices | GLPaladin11:44
ubot5GLPaladin: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices11:44
k1l_so we need to get to know who nobody is ;p11:44
ogra_k1l_, he only had a part time contract sadly and didnt tell anyone the results11:44
k1l_its a pitty ;p11:45
ogra_yeah11:45
ogra_you could try to find somebody ... he could do the test again11:45
k1l_hehe11:45
GLPaladinhttp://goo.im/devs/Hashcode/maserati/ubuntu-phablet   --- THIS link NOT work (11:47
ogra_contact the owner then11:48
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KnipleAnyone know anything about the MX4 making odd sounds when locked?12:25
Knipleits clicking12:25
Knipleseems to be coming from the speakers, because its quite when its on silent mode12:25
jgdxKniple, I have that too. I think it's tracked in a bug somewhere.12:28
Kniplejgdx: ah, aight, I'll take a look12:29
Knipledo you have any wonky stuff going on with the battery indication?12:29
jgdxKniple, that's also tracked. I think it's hardware. 1 sec12:29
jgdxKniple, bug 147191312:30
ubot5bug 1471913 in Canonical System Image "[MX4] Battery statistics are incorrect" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147191312:30
Kniplethis is perfect12:30
Kniplethanks jgdx12:30
jgdxKniple, np12:30
Kniplecould anyone explain to me what the bubbles and the little arrow means on the lockscreen? :D12:30
Knipleoooh12:31
KnipleI think I figured it out12:31
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jgdxKniple, what does it mean?13:09
KnipleI assume the arrow that goes around the circle is the day of the month, and then the bubbles (or cicrles) that colour up are indicators of what it says in the middle.13:14
popeyyes13:14
jgdxmorphis, that uss ci failure is real, but it's about to get fixed (silo's being published)13:22
Knipledo we have any ETA on the next major update?13:24
tathhunext month :P13:24
tathhu19th or something afau13:25
Knipleah nice13:25
Kniplesee what fine things they push this time13:25
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morphisjgdx: great13:37
guest42315Kniple, https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/ww40-201513:40
Knipleguest42315: thanks!13:43
guest42315:D13:43
Kniplehmm, I am new to launchpad, what does the little number by the assagnees mean?13:44
Knipletheres 2 alan popes assigned, and 17 kevin gunns?13:44
KnipleI assume it is the number of bugs assigned.13:45
guest42315Kniple, probably13:45
tathhupopecption13:45
Knipleit would be much funnier if there were 34 bill fillers13:45
tathhurick rollers?13:46
tathhuoh wait13:46
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jgdxabeato, I have a SIM that I have to add credits to. I've seen ofono report Attached = 1, but not right now. Do you have any idea why it would attach in the first place?13:53
jgdxabeato, forgot to add that there are 0 credits on it right now.13:53
abeatojgdx, the behaviour when there is no credit depends on the operator13:55
abeatojgdx, some times you attach but are not able to receive any data13:55
jgdxabeato, okay.14:00
jgdxawe_, hey, could you take a look at bug 1499739 and let me know what you think?14:06
ubot5bug 1499739 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "NetworkManager.State reports connected when not" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149973914:06
awe_if this is what I think it is, I think you're out of luck14:07
awe_essentially you *have* an active account14:07
jgdxawe_, that's fine, just need a definite answer14:08
awe_but there's no credit, so the operator shuts you off14:08
jgdxthat's it14:08
jgdxpete-woods, ^14:08
awe_for now, 'connected' means 'you have a network connection setup'14:08
jgdxright14:08
awe_it doesn't mean, packets can actually flow14:08
awe_ie. we don't ping a known server to know we're actually on the internet14:09
jgdxawe_, is NM in a position to do that, without carrying patches?14:10
jgdx(more patches)14:10
awe_jgdx, in a mtg14:11
jgdxrog14:11
awe_I'll get back to you in a minute14:11
mterrympt, so this flash design (I'm getting back to looking at that) -- the progress bar starting at 50%, with same background/images as normal boot -- it's not likely to change, right?  (I like it, I'm just checking before I make new assets)14:15
awe_jgdx, without me looking at the source code, can you explain what: <uint32 70> and <uint32 20> mean?14:27
jgdxawe_, GlobalConnected and Disconnected. I'll update the bug14:27
awe_again, is the problem you're trying to solve, the fact that NM says you're connected14:27
awe_and your operator has shut you off at the source?14:27
awe_so no data happens?14:28
jgdxawe_, yes.14:29
awe_k, please update the bug description then.  There's no simple fix for this14:29
morphisawe_: Network manager doesn't perform any "I am really online" check?14:30
awe_there's code for this in NM14:30
awe_but AFAIK, it's currently disabled14:30
morphisah14:30
morphiswhat does it do for that?14:30
jgdxawe_, how should I update the bug?14:30
awe_cut & paste words from above?  ;)-14:30
awe_morphis, I believe it allows you to configure some kind of heartbeat server14:31
awe_but again... I haven't looked at this14:31
morphisok14:31
awe_right now my main priority is snap14:31
awe_then back to OTA714:31
morphisyeah, don't get confused by this :)14:31
awe_it's certainly something we can look at jgdx, but it's not a short-term priority.14:32
mptmterry, the percentage may change, if an engineer ever bothers to measure the appropriate allocation. Otherwise I doubt it. :-)14:38
mterrympt, cool14:38
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danjjlHello, I am playing with the Ubuntu SDK.  I have a QtMultimedia `Audio` instance. I am changing it's playbackRate. This works fine on my desktop using `qmlscene` but does not seem to have any effect on my phone. Is playbackRate support not yet implemented on the Ubuntu Touch?  (Is this the right place to ask?)20:00
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popeydanjjl: it is the right place, dunno if it's supported actually20:04
popeydanjjl: come back on monday and the people who deal with multimedia will be around20:05
popeyor fire a mail at the ubuntu phone mailing list20:05
danjjlThank you, I'll be back on Monday20:06
nik90danjjl: I'm afraid playBackRate support has not yet been implemented in ubuntu-touch. (I remember asking the multimedia dev for Podbird 1-2 months ago).20:44
nik90danjjl: Here's the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/144636020:44
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1446360 in Media Hub "Support playbackRate property of Qt MediaPlayer" [Medium,Triaged]20:44
nik90Elleo: I think we have got all the translations for Podbird. I pinged few people for the important languages like German & Spanish. It seems there are languages that have strings in need of reviewing but I don't see any other contributors for those languages to ask.20:47
nik90Elleo: If you're happy with the state of trunk, then go ahead with the release when you're free.20:48
mhall119hey nik90, is your website down?20:51
nik90mhall119: yes :/ I'm having trouble bringing my ghost-blog server up. Upgrade messed it up.20:52
nik90I will try to get it up this weekend If I can.20:53
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Elleonik90: yeah, I've got one last change to finish to improve the performance of the new tabbed list view, as it was a bit slow switching with big lists20:53
Elleonik90: got a much faster mechanism now, just need to update some other bits and pieces to be compatible with it20:54
nik90Elleo: Ooh nice.20:54
popeyhey nik9021:04
nik90popey: hey hey21:04
tathhuhey hey21:04
* tathhu waits thursday aand ubuntu :ooo21:21
shd_anyone tried to develop ubuntu touch apps / scopes on non-ubuntu host? ( different linux )21:49

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