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m0nkey_I just type GET / with two carriage returns02:29
daftykinsis your / included or just signifying the enters? did seem it wanted two03:25
daftykinsah well this NAS is totally dead, not getting the web admin at all03:26
zmoylan-pinot responding to reset/reflash?03:27
daftykinsnope, it sits there doing nothing but running the disks hot if i try prodding the reset button03:28
daftykinsit's about 7 years old so i think it's just game over03:28
daftykinsdoesn't even power on properly anymore03:28
zmoylan-pinot worth the risk of important files then03:31
daftykinsnah, it's just a backup so i'll buy in a £100 synology 2 bay, throw the disks over, nuke them and get it back up and running03:31
zmoylan-pithough i did have a novell server that needed a double start for 5+ years03:31
daftykinshehe03:32
daftykinsi haven't inspected the caps inside, so there's that03:32
zmoylan-pihuge full height hard drive that had a real slow spin up speed.  you'd start the server, wait for it to fail, listen carefully till it reached it's max speed then reset and novell was your server for another year till the next powercut reboot :-)03:34
zmoylan-piand i had to put a label on the front to remind everyone about this as every time there was a powercut people would panic when novell didn't restart03:35
daftykinsXD03:36
daftykinsit's funny how much you try to give them documentation so they don't have to call you in again, but still they will03:36
zmoylan-piin this case, a strip of masking tape with 'don't try and restart without moylan present' written on it03:37
zmoylan-pibeside the switch on front of case03:38
daftykinsone client has a little postit beside the power button of his secondary screen to say 'don't turn me off' but it's actually just an odd power button that needs holding in for a sec :>03:38
zmoylan-pii do sometimes wonder how long a mug i strategically placed to allow printers in an office to work via ir lasted in middle of a desk sitting on sheet of paper saying. 'do not move this mug!!'03:40
zmoylan-piwe did have packing tape covering a power switch in one location but the md did pull it off and switch off the machine using expensive electricity at night03:41
zmoylan-pihe of course switched it off in middle of a year end run and then discovered he hadn't replaced the secretary who was swapping in and out the backup tapes03:43
zmoylan-pisaved about 20p worth of leccy, generated about ir£10,000 worth of a data recovery bill03:45
daftykins>_<03:47
daftykinswas the mug bouncing an infrared beam?03:47
zmoylan-piaround the time of hp lj4 printer, hp desktops had ir port as standard.  was asked by a mate to configure a printer they had just gotten. went onsite and they had no spare parallel cable so i set up ir.  all bouncing of shiny mug :-)03:48
zmoylan-pithe nearest shop selling parallel cable was over an hour away on foot so saved time :-)03:49
daftykinsXD03:49
daftykinsi bet my psion 3c could've printed to that :D03:49
zmoylan-pithat was what gave me the idea...03:50
zmoylan-pii LOVED my psions03:51
daftykins:)03:51
daftykinsi think it was the only way young me could get something close to a laptop03:51
zmoylan-piit was a full system that fitted in a holster and survived long commute and i could walk around ware house doing stock takes typing at 35wpm on it03:53
* zmoylan-pi moseys off to the loo while my router plots its 0500 reboot...03:58
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daftykinsright on time o004:53
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Moodoomorning07:15
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:12
davmor2Morning all08:18
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brobostigonmorning davmor208:24
Moodoomorning brobostigon davmor208:52
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday, and happy Comic Book Day! 😃08:56
brobostigonhi Moodoo08:57
bashrc_morning09:00
davmor2JamesTait: just for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BFYBO5Brtc09:26
JamesTaitdavmor2, I only know someone who completed Ironman Wales, I didn't do it myself!09:28
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk1aQx9hTaE09:29
JamesTaitdavmor2, https://www.beano.com/09:31
davmor2JamesTait: DC and Marvel are comics too :P09:32
JamesTaitdavmor2, definitely!  I wasn't really into them, tbh.  I just watched the films.09:34
zmoylan-pi2000ad was my comic of choice09:53
TwistedLucidityThere's a guy selling old books on out high street on Sundays. I bought a load of old 2000AD annuals \o/09:57
davmor2zmoylan-pi: for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNwqVUyqqTY09:57
zmoylan-pii await a really really good ereader so all those 2000ad cbr files i found can be read as nicely as the comics were when i was a kid09:58
davmor2JamesTait: for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-3U4aAzUw09:58
zmoylan-pii really liked the new judge dredd movie, pity it didn't make much money09:58
Myrttiooh. new kernel.10:07
* zmoylan-pi stands and plays anthem for a new kernel :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjxNnqTcHhg10:28
TwistedLucidityzmoylan-pi: It was good. I found it very similar to "The Raid".10:48
DJoneszmoylan-pi: Shouldn't it be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YLDv_rBfVM for a new kernel10:55
davmor2zmoylan-pi: I am the god of hell fire, and I bring you Fire FIRE!!!!!11:05
davmor2it'll heat the popcorn nicely :)11:05
popeyoooh11:10
popeythe kids school have put a promo video up which has a nice fly-by done with a dronw11:10
popey*drone11:10
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davmor2popey: you are evil if you drown drones11:17
bashrc_drone drowner11:18
bashrc_but you could fit floats to a drone, so that it wouldn't drown11:19
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davmor2Wow never realised that the music in Enigma's T.N.T for the brain is so scarily similar to Sheila B. Devotion Spacer11:52
diddledanzmoylan-pi, popcorn for a new kernel? is that because you like watching all the machines it b0rks?12:23
diddledanwhat's interesting about that video is the single they're playing is ripped out of a jukebox12:23
diddledanthere's some awesome choreography for the tune here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfdLh0MHqKw12:27
diddledanthen there's the techno version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN8iRqAFQQo12:29
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directhexdiddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UmUX68KtE ?13:02
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diddledandirecthex, lol13:03
directhexhere's something fun - the song the futurama theme song is a remix of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOqfWj0HqNE13:05
diddledanthat's the futurama introduction video, too :-p13:09
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zmoylan-piif the the drone drowns it's not a witch :-)14:06
zmoylan-piwhoops, replying to way... earlier... :-)14:07
diddledanlol14:21
diddledanfool14:22
diddledan:-p14:22
zmoylan-pigive me a break i have to be awake all night :-)14:27
diddledanhttp://store.virginmedia.com/special-offers/speed-upgrade.html \o/14:44
foobarrytalktalk just upped their prices around 15%14:46
diddledan:-(14:46
TwistedLucidityI hope that includes upspeed, because VM's totally sucks ass14:46
diddledanTwistedLucidity, ispreview guess at the upload being increased to 20Mbps on the top-tier14:51
diddledanref: http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2015/09/speed-tests-hint-of-faster-virgin-media-broadband-upload-speeds.html14:51
popeyvirgin put theirs up too14:51
popeythey do every time they do speed bumps14:51
jpdspopey: I'm just spoilt by the speeds we get in the office14:53
foobarrythis might push me over the edge14:55
foobarryISPs generally make money from price hikes applied to existing customer base14:55
TwistedLucidityYeah. I'm on a friends&family deal with VM. Seemed good value a few years ago, now I'm not so sure.15:00
popeysame here15:00
popeyhandy given the guy left VM and I still have the deal though15:00
TwistedLucidityWhen we move, might look into a pure ISP-play. SIP phones etc.15:01
TwistedLucidityNo TV, just Internet.15:01
TwistedLucidityNot as if I can be bothered watching "Historic Alien Dog Catchers Exposed" or whatever on NatGeo....15:02
foobarrywhats the cheapest ISP broadband deal? no tv15:02
zmoylan-piusing your neighbours? :-)15:03
TwistedLucidityfoobarry: Probably still TalkTalk.15:03
foobarrymehh15:03
TwistedLucidityAlthough I'd probably consider someone like A&A and pay for competence.15:03
foobarrythe broadband just works15:04
TwistedLucidityOr move to the country and join b4rn. Gigabit symmetric.15:04
diddledanhah, I had one of those until recently when dad switched providers: http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2015/09/ee-uk-botches-customer-emails-after-domain-renewal-fail.html15:06
diddledan(I was the signatory on the account from way back in the 90s and I just switched the DirectDebit over to dad when I left home. he only recently switched away)15:07
zmoylan-pidid he have to return the 14,400 modem? :-)15:20
directhexdiddledan: my dad will get screwed when he tries to change ISP, and he *deserves it*. i advised him not to rely on his ISP address more than a decade ago15:20
directhexand he should have learned when he moved from BT Internet to Demon.15:20
popeyhah15:20
popeymy father in law still uses his too15:21
popeyi keep telling him15:21
zmoylan-pimy original email address had a 3mb mail box...15:22
zmoylan-pii still remember the password letters AND numbers15:23
popeyI still use my first isp password :)15:25
TwistedLuciditydirecthex: The last mail address I closed down, I think I moved and then left it for ~2 years to be 100% I'd migrated everything that was important.15:25
TwistedLucidityThen I killed it.15:25
bashrcISP email addresses are better than gmail. At least with the isp the user is the customer15:26
TwistedLucidityDitching GMail is going to be a pain.15:26
TwistedLuciditybashrc: Most ISPs simply re-brand GMail or similar. They have little-to-no control15:26
bashrcugh15:26
popeynot any more15:33
popeyVM have just moved away to some other open source mail system15:33
popeybecause google shutdown their GApps for ISPs15:33
jpdspopey: roundcube?15:35
bashrcgoogle has too much of a stranglehold on email15:35
popeyno15:35
popeysome other thing15:35
foobarryzimbra?15:42
diddledanrainloop15:45
diddledan?15:45
popeyI tweeted it a week or two ack15:45
popeyhttps://twitter.com/popey/status/64410564532781875215:45
jpdsWow, I just tried the demo, looks cluttered15:48
jpds(Also the document section is called "Drive")15:48
popeyyeah, its not great15:49
popeynot that I'll be using it15:49
popeyjust migrated my vm gmail over then closed the tab15:49
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diddledanhttps://twitter.com/yurivictor/status/64746581399430348817:44
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diddledaninteresting start to heroes reborn last night20:15
diddledanI'm not so sure this is a good idea: https://make.wordpress.org/core/2015/09/25/changes-to-fields-output-by-comment_form-in-wordpress-4-4/21:03
diddledanI always expect the name and email to be the first thing filled-in21:04
diddledanor rather I expect that order when I fill-out a form21:04
mapoHi all21:34
diddledanallo21:34
mapoMoved apartment now21:34
mapoSo no net :(((21:34
mapoWent in and asked when ir might be and got told no idea !:(21:35
mapo£39for 50mbit tv ans phone21:35
mapoSeems ok21:35
mapoWas paying £82  with gibtel for 100mbit only21:35
diddledanyou use british money? I figured you'd be using spanish potatoes21:36
diddledanor even euros21:37
mapoIm in gib not spain21:37
mapoIm not poor lol21:37
diddledanI forgot spain ditched the potatoes for euro21:37
mapoAll the brits that come to gib and work on the phones live in gib!21:37
mapoIts so silly cheap21:37
mapo700 euros for a 3,bed vs £1000-1200 fotr a one bed in gib21:38
mapoUses euros ans pounds in gib but when ysing euros you get raped they charge more21:38
diddledan700 * 1.2 isn't much different to 110021:39
mapoIts 1.421:39
diddledanoh?21:39
mapoLook at current rate21:39
mapo1.38-1/421:39
diddledanI thought the pound to american was 1.421:39
mapoBut still 3 bed 500 odd quid vs 1000-1200 1 bed21:40
mapoIs a bit different21:40
diddledanI'm confused21:40
mapoOf?21:40
diddledan£500 in euro for a 3-bed and £1100 in pounds for a 1-bed?21:40
mapoYou can get a ,3 bed for 700 in spain whicg is around ,500 quid21:40
mapoA one bed in gib is 110021:41
mapoGet it?:)21:41
mapo1100 pounds21:41
diddledanI'm not seeing any raping from euros there21:42
diddledan3bed > 1bed, and 1100 > 50021:42
mapoNooo i mean if you pay for stuff in euros in givpb21:42
mapoGib21:42
mapoYou get a bs rate21:42
mapoSo say yiu go to a restaurant £2021:44
mapoPay in euros maybe 37 or something21:44
mapoWill be a ripoff21:44
diddledanbut 20*1.4 = 38 so that sounds about right21:44
mapoGah damn21:45
mapoOk 4521:45
mapoI gave a bad example21:45
diddledanheh21:45
mapoIts worse trust me21:45
mapoLike yiu can pay with pounds in Prague21:45
diddledanI guess it's the way of things on border-regions21:45
mapoBut its beyond a ripoff21:45
mapoYea21:45
mapoLook up la linea de la concepcion and you'll see21:46
mapoIts grotty but cheap21:46
diddledanthe gibraltarnians probably prefer to keep their banks in pounds so they charge non-pound payments more21:46
mapo500 for a 3 bed is nothing and yet peoole live like students living three to a house21:46
mapoScrew doing that at 30!!!!21:47
daftykinsouch21:54
daftykinsyeah no sharing21:54
popeyEvening slackers22:01
daftykinso/22:07
diddledanso there's another pretender to slack's crown that's been opensourced today by dropbox: https://zulip.com22:27
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popeydiddledan: also, mattermost23:14
diddledanpopey, yeah, I'm intriguied by mattermost being bundled with gitlab23:14
popeyyeah23:14
popeyseems like a good ide23:14
popey*idea23:14
diddledanunfortunately my colleagues don't see the benefit of moving away from slack's freebie23:15
czajkowskipopey: you're up late23:51
czajkowskikids ok ?23:51
popeylies23:55
popeyyes23:55
popey:)23:55
popeyjust friday night chillin, playing games and actually now bed23:55
popeyzzz23:55
popeyooh, it's caturday23:56
* popey gets a cat pic23:56
daftykins:D23:56
daftykinsmines curled up on my lap as i watch a film and IRC23:56

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