[00:00] <cyberanger> after a little while, quit
[00:00] <aedend> maybe, but this happens a lot. It seems every month there is a company that's had a breach of secure information
[00:00] <cyberanger> That's generous, daily
[00:00] <cyberanger> it's just not everything gets reported
[00:01] <cyberanger> and protecting against a nation's cybercrime/cyberintelligence/cyberwarfare units isn't exactly standard operations when alot of this has happened
[00:01] <aedend> ok, soooo Digital Ocean is somehow more secure than the companies I've read about _and_ the companies you know about?
[00:02] <cyberanger> No, I don't think Digital Ocean is more secure
[00:02] <cyberanger> I think if you want secure, you Do it yourself
[00:02] <cyberanger> I mean, if it has to hold, you make it hold
[00:03] <cyberanger> if you offload part of what your doing to somebody else, you trust them, their security policies AND abilities to keep them
[00:03] <aedend> ok, so I guess the questions I was asking is answered by - you take the risk when you rely on someone else's servers
[00:04] <cyberanger> Yeah, and secure your own setup as needed too
[00:04] <aedend> hardening an system is not something I'm prepared to do at this point, I still have a lot to learn
[00:05] <aedend> Thats one of the reasons I'm doing this LFS thing, so I can learn from the inside and... by mistakes :)
[00:05] <Unit193> I'm not saying I'm the best at hardening...
[00:06] <aedend> I look at it like this. At work I might have a pump that is not supplying pressure at the rate or flow I need
[00:07] <aedend> I could adjust the compensator to increase volume, but thats not enough for me. I want to know the pumps' design and how the compensator works
[00:08] <aedend> Using an analogy here, maybe not a good one. But I apply the same mindset to learning linux
[06:38]  * cyberanger wonders what censorship loving country he can fly to for some testing.....without freaking out our own "intelligence" agencies
[10:43]  * aedend wonders if he should cut off all ties to cyberanger :)
[11:16] <wrst> aedend: I have been really happy with DO, my main use is owncloud, and also a quassel core i'm using the 10 buck plan just for the storage, but for a wordpress site the 5 buck plan will more than likely be more than you will need
[14:14] <cyberanger> aedend: lol
[18:12] <cyberanger> aedend: I can't advise you one way or another
[18:12] <cyberanger> just a shame the only way to prove something works at times is to take it to the real world, stick it in a hostile enviroment, and them watch it work
[18:14] <cyberanger> Apperently I just got retweated by Chattanooga's Channel 9
[18:14] <cyberanger> they were asking for least likely speakers of the house, for some fun poll I guess
[18:15] <cyberanger> before the tweet was 10 seconds old, I gave them three names, Vladimir Putin, Osama Bin Laden and Bashar Al-Assad
[18:15] <cyberanger> Funny how only Vlad is getting the attention
[18:16]  * cyberanger does enjoy poking the bear....holding an assult rifle.....from time to time