[00:00] <neonixcoder> I am planing to upgrade 10.04 to 14.04 on number of remote machines which are connected through 3G network. Before upgrading these servers in the field I want to  test the upgrade process. Upgrade process went fine but when we are restarting server in lab I am getting "error: the symbol 'grub_xputs' not found.
[00:00] <neonixcoder> Grub rescue>". I can recover it with live CD but the issue is how can we eliminate this issue with out occuring..
[00:00] <neonixcoder> Any suggetions?
[00:00] <neonixcoder> I tried installing grub before reboot..
[00:00] <neonixcoder> That did not solve my problem..
[00:00] <neonixcoder> Am I doing some mistake when installing grub?
[00:02] <Rabbitnightmare> will Ubuntu 15.10 have Jesse's kernel?
[00:05] <daftykins> Rabbitnightmare: #ubuntu+1 and read the release notes
[00:06] <Rabbitnightmare> ty daftykins
[00:06] <kanarian> k
[00:07] <Bashing-om> the_count: That last URL is s duplicate of the xorg . Try again ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ' .
[00:07] <kanarian> ll
[00:07] <kanarian> hello
[00:07] <Rabbitnightmare> yay they are using the standard 3.19 kernel
[00:07] <Rabbitnightmare> whew
[00:08] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have to go, I will have to talk to you later
[00:08] <daftykins> Rabbitnightmare: not in 15.10 they're not
[00:09] <Rabbitnightmare> daftykins, oh thats 15.04
[00:09] <daftykins> i think it's gonna be 4.1 or 4.2
[00:10] <Rabbitnightmare> as long as its the Linus approved kernel and not the debian special magic version
[00:10] <du_> daftykins: would i be tripping if i ask what is tripping?
[00:10] <Rabbitnightmare> none of my hardware agrees with Jesse's kernel
[00:10] <daftykins> du_: not on topic here.
[00:10] <daftykins> Rabbitnightmare: not relevant here :)
[00:11] <gogoat10^2> https://clbin.com/nTma7
[00:11] <gogoat10^2> for anyoene who wants to play with a text irc client
[00:11] <du_> daftykins: gotcha #daftyking
[00:11] <Rabbitnightmare> im asking in there nobodys responding, daftykins can you link me the 15.10 rnotes?
[00:12] <daftykins> Rabbitnightmare: no
[00:12] <daftykins> though i guess it's too early for literal 'release' notes since it's... not released
[00:23] <TJ-> 15.10 kernel is v4.2
[00:26] <nullx> hey all, having the oddest issue i've ever seen... my internet speed is fine, but on lan any transfer is severely bandwidth limited
[00:26] <nullx> I can get about 600kb/s lan, and 900 megabits on the internet (yes, my internet is that fast)
[00:27] <nullx> NFS/Samba are like 600kb/s max, and SFTP is even worse like 20kb/s
[00:27] <nullx> 600kb/s is verified on two different devices, one wired, one wireless thats right in front of the router
[00:28] <daftykins> if you're using a speed test versus real world file copy, that's not a good comparison
[00:28] <daftykins> try using iperf to check the LAN
[00:28] <nullx> k
[00:28] <nullx> ill see what i can do with iperf
[00:29] <daftykins> ideally it'd be a single contiguous large file too
[00:29] <nullx> just googling how to iperf
[00:30] <daftykins> (for a standard samba or NFS test i mean)
[00:30] <nullx> getting good speeds on iperf
[00:30] <nullx> about the max of the wifi on my phone (38 megabits per sec)
[00:31] <nullx> as for samba and NFS that's what I already did and measured the speed
[00:31] <daftykins> you don't have two wired devices to test?
[00:31] <nullx> my wired device is my kodi box without a keyboard unfortunately
[00:31] <daftykins> could be a bad disk at either end :>
[00:31] <daftykins> so, SSH?
[00:31] <nullx> I also tried doing dd on the drive
[00:31] <nullx> and it wrote really fast
[00:31] <nullx> and read really fast
[00:31] <nullx> no errors
[00:32] <nullx> over SSH it was even worse like 20kb/s
[00:32] <nullx> its just such an odd issue
[00:32] <daftykins> no i meant SSH to run iperf on the HTPC
[00:32] <nullx> oh gotcha
[00:32] <nullx> yeah its a windows htpc
[00:32] <vmonteco> Hello!
[00:32] <nullx> but i bet theres iperf for windows
[00:32] <daftykins> ah, iperf is available on Windows too
[00:32] <nullx> ill see what i can do
[00:32] <nullx> yeah
[00:32] <nullx> brb ;)
[00:33] <TJ-> nullx: the low speeds; is that transferring many files, or just one large?
[00:33] <nullx> not even one large.. it used to be able to view 20 gb mkvs without issue, its struggling on 1gb mkvs
[00:34] <daftykins> so streaming, not file copy...
[00:34] <nullx> I switched from sharing on a windows pc to having a dedicated linux file server
[00:34] <nullx> its the same pc
[00:34] <nullx> yeah iperf over htpc is saying really fast speeds as well
[00:34] <TJ-> nullx: gb = gigabit, GB = GigaByte
[00:35] <bindi> gb = grambit ;)
[00:35] <daftykins> are you using a windows mapped drive, or Kodi's built in samba use?
[00:35] <nullx> :)
[00:35] <nullx> kodi's built in samba/nfs/sftp
[00:35] <jordanrandles> Whats better Mac OSX or Ubuntu?
[00:35] <nullx> jordanrandles: for what? for who? ;)
[00:35] <daftykins> jordanrandles: all OSs suck, you use the one you mind cleaning up after the least.
[00:35] <bazhang> offtopic here jordanrandles
[00:35] <TJ-> nullx: I'm trying to ascertain if you see the slow speed transferring a single large file. If not, the issue might be name resolution
[00:35] <nullx> that too
[00:36] <nullx> Tj: oh im connecting by ip though
[00:36] <nullx> ok want me to iperf again with a bigger data size?
[00:36] <bindi> are you using iptables nullx?
[00:36] <nullx> if that is how it works
[00:36] <nullx> nope
[00:36] <bindi> okay then
[00:36] <jordanrandles> nullx: for webdevelopment
[00:36] <TJ-> nullx: The remote end may still be trying ot do reverse lookup.
[00:36] <nullx> jordanrandles: both very good, see: vagrant/docker too
[00:36] <nullx> Tj: ah I see
[00:37] <TJ-> nullx: Also, if you're using CIFS/SMB  then Samba/NetBios/winbind could enter the mix
[00:37] <bindi> I just had a similiar issue, I think, I cant remember exactly. even the most Guru linuxgods I knew didnt know what was up with it, I had to manually set my MTU to like 1400.. had to reinstall ubuntu to get it fixed :)
[00:37] <nullx> Tj: I tried both there was no difference
[00:37] <nullx> bindi: I can try that
[00:37] <davidlinuxidiot> Greetings anyone have a minute to help me with a dual boot problem?
[00:38] <daftykins> not until you ask it
[00:38] <TJ-> nullx: I'm not on about which protocols you used; with Samba installed nsswitch may be trying winbind on every name resolution
[00:38] <nullx> Tj: gotcha
[00:38] <TJ-> nullx: *read* the server logs
[00:38] <nullx> wow
[00:39] <nullx> I set my mtu to 1400 my phone is now transferring way faster
[00:39] <honey_pot> .
[00:39] <nullx> gonna check the kodi box
[00:39] <daftykins> you don't mess with MTUs on a LAN ¬_¬
[00:39] <TJ-> nullx: is the network using VLANs
[00:40] <bindi> -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN -j TCPMSS --set-mss 1420
[00:40] <bindi> i had to have this to make my  network work
[00:40] <bindi> but it wasnt a solution, the problem appeared on its own
[00:40] <bindi> or i upgraded iptables or something. but as i said, i installed a newer ubuntu lts version and it was fixed, and not even the gurus knew wtf was up :P
[00:40] <nullx> no vlans
[00:40] <davidlinuxidiot> I installed recent ubuntu distro and my acer laptop only boots to windows.  I have run boot repair. and played with bios priorities nothing will boot to ubuntu except ONE time I hit F12 at startup and it went to GRUB
[00:40] <nullx> sec
[00:40] <daftykins> bindi: what's your point?
[00:41] <nullx> nah not working properly
[00:41] <bindi> my point is i had a similiar sounding problem and a "fix" was to mess with the mtu :P
[00:41] <nullx> bindi: I'll try that
[00:41] <TJ-> bindi: nullx MTU can be set via NetworkManager connection-manager, or if using ifupdown, in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:41] <nullx> its better on phone
[00:41] <nullx> but not on kodi
[00:41] <daftykins> bindi: well that's a lovely single case example of your setup being messed up, but doesn't prove anything :)
[00:41] <bindi> yes, I know :>
[00:42] <bindi> but it's now commented in the config :P
[00:42] <nullx> k Tj
[00:42] <bindi> and nobody knows what caused it :)
[00:42] <bindi> hashtag onlylinuxthings
[00:42] <daftykins> davidlinuxidiot: so you don't have something set to Windows Boot Manager that you can change to the disk device name?
[00:42] <Volund> Say guys. I'm using a pretty straightforward install of Ubuntu and wonder if there's a simple way to enable 'listen to line in over my primary audio out'
[00:42] <Volund> right now the method I am using is this command:
[00:42] <Volund> pactl load-module module-loopback
[00:43] <Volund> is this my best method? I don't know how to 'turn it off' except for muting it
[00:43] <daftykins> unload module? :>
[00:43] <Volund> tried that, didn't quite work
[00:43] <davidlinuxidiot> dafty: I dont know what you are asking.  As you can tell by my name I am an idiot with linux
[00:43] <Volund> maybe.
[00:43] <Volund> anyways
[00:43] <Volund> -is- there another way?
[00:43] <bomongo> help
[00:44] <bomongo> sorry
[00:44] <daftykins> davidlinuxidiot: i'm asking if when you enter the BIOS you see something set to 'Windows Boot Manager' that can be changed to the hard disk device name instead.
[00:44] <Volund> I have a PS4 that plugs into my secondary monitor via HDMI, then I run a headphone cable from the back of the monitor to my PC's sound card Line In
[00:44] <nullx> bindi: weird thing to need to do mtu
[00:44] <nullx> bindi: I'll try the iptables
[00:44] <daftykins> bad idea imo
[00:44] <daftykins> iptables is not for your setup
[00:44] <nullx> yeah
[00:44] <bindi> you'll need more than just a single line of config :P
[00:44] <nullx> ill set a really low mtu
[00:44] <nullx> just to test
[00:44] <davidlinuxidiot> dafty:  Windows Boot Manager is the last possible boot order, I set it as such so that hopefully grub would load first but it still boots to windows 8
[00:45] <daftykins> nullx: that's ridiculous :)
[00:45] <nullx> lol
[00:45] <nullx> it is I have to agree
[00:45] <nullx> but it'd be nice to actually be able to watch shit :P
[00:45] <davidlinuxidiot> dafty: acer BIOS don't really have many options
[00:45] <daftykins> davidlinuxidiot: not the boot order, but the boot device - possibly under a hard disk priority menu
[00:45] <daftykins> davidlinuxidiot: i've heard more options become visible once you set a supervisor password
[00:46] <nullx> not just that it'll probably mess up my internet speed lol
[00:46] <davidlinuxidiot> that might be true let me go back to that and come back here if I can't finger it out, thanks good point
[00:47] <TJ-> nullx: what is the layout of your network devices?
[00:47] <nullx> Tj: basicly modem/router -> switch -> devices
[00:47] <nullx> its a dumb switch
[00:47] <nullx> and direct to this pc though no switch
[00:48] <TJ-> nullx: so the router is also Wifi ?
[00:48] <nullx> I didn't have this issue doing SMB over windows
[00:48] <nullx> yeah
[00:48] <nullx> same pc everything wired wise worked 100% in windows 7
[00:48] <daftykins> i bet you're using 15.04 huh
[00:48] <TJ-> nullx: and the problem transfers are DEVICE_1 <=> router <=> DEVICE_2
[00:48] <daftykins> for samba hosting
[00:49] <nullx> like I said no change if its NFS or sftp
[00:49] <nullx> right Tj
[00:49] <nullx> but the other thing that's odd is iperf shows really high b/w between devices
[00:50] <TJ-> nullx: is the router Linux, and can you gain an admin terminal on it?
[00:50] <nullx> nah its a really shitty isp specific one
[00:50] <nullx> I plan on turning it into modem only and getting an AC router sometime soon
[00:50] <TJ-> nullx: iperf results tends to suggest name resolution, or disk access, as suspects
[00:51] <nullx> I tested disk access... so name resoluton?
[00:51] <nullx> resolution*
[00:51] <nullx> so do you think by adding to hosts file it'll make a difference?
[00:51] <wymillerlinux> nullx: But you said your connecting through IP, correct?
[00:52] <nullx> correct
[00:52] <TJ-> nullx: this is why I asked whether the issue affects transferring a single, large, file. name resolution may be done once per file, so 1 parge file shouldn't see the slow-down.
[00:52] <wymillerlinux> Yeah, I was gonna say, check /etc/hosts
[00:52] <nullx> Tj: oh the issue is always one large file
[00:52] <TJ-> wymillerlinux: some protocols will do reverse-lookups
[00:52] <nullx> it's never multiple
[00:52] <nullx> my tests are on a big rar file actually, and on the kodi its been a 1.2gb mkv
[00:52] <TJ-> nullx: OK, that helps. Do you have 2 Linux devices you can test from?
[00:53] <nullx> I do not.  Android at best.
[00:53] <nullx> I mean
[00:53] <nullx> I could take my old pc and turn it into one
[00:53] <nullx> just seems like overkill, though
[00:53] <nullx> also, in case I don't say this later.. thanks for the help whoever has been trying
[00:53] <daftykins> not when you just need to boot a live session
[00:53] <TJ-> nullx: I was thinking about doing a test similar to iperf, but which can be morphed to write to/read from disk too
[00:53] <davidlinuxidiot> daftykins:  I didn't see any added functions when I set a supervisor password
[00:53] <nullx> daftykins: good idea
[00:53] <nullx> ill make a live usb
[00:54] <davidlinuxidiot> daftykins: I wish I could show you a screenshot of my BIOS
[00:54] <daftykins> davidlinuxidiot: and the other thing?
[00:54] <daftykins> so take a picture of each page and put it on imgur.com
[00:54] <Osirus126> take a picture of your bios with your phone and then upload it to imagebin
[00:55] <User88> list
[00:55] <nullx> Tj: gimme about 2-3 minutes, I don't have a KVM or anything though nor a second monitor
[00:55] <wymillerlinux> nullx: VM?
[00:56] <davidlinuxidiot> DK: Osiris:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12539379/
[00:56] <nullx> wymillerlinux: this is my only pc right now, lol
[00:56] <TJ-> nullx: e.g: "dd if=/dev/zero | pv | nc a.b.c.d 1234" and at the other end "nc -l a.b.c.d 1234 | pv | dd of=/dev/null"
[00:56] <nullx> k
[00:56] <davidlinuxidiot> thats my boot repair log  I will take photos now brb
[00:59] <nullx> making usb now
[01:00] <nullx> k
[01:01] <debdeb> Is there any image viewer that will display a picture, but also a small preveiw of the next couple of pictures in the folder ?
[01:01] <bazhang> apt-cache search slideshow debdeb
[01:02] <nullx> ok so Tj can you explain the command again to me?
[01:02] <nightwork> So I am trying to run a minecraft server. I have a 2.3ghz quad core, 2 gigs of ram, running ubuntu. I changed it to boot into the terminal not DE. But it keeps lagging and running slow. kicks my players and boots me as well. Any ideas what could be happening.
[01:02] <nullx> nightwork: not a lot of ram for minecraft fyi
[01:03] <nullx> but that should be ok
[01:03] <nightwork> the debugger keeps saying that 'something cant keep up"
[01:03] <daftykins> nightwork: bad JRE
[01:03] <nullx> oh yeah
[01:03] <nightwork> Yeah, i want to upgrade it.
[01:03] <nullx> openjdk is no good for minecraft
[01:03] <nullx> get sun java
[01:03] <daftykins> 'upgrade' ? is it even the right one?
[01:03] <TJ-> nullx: On the sending PC: "dd if=/dev/zero | pv | nc a.b.c.d 1234" and at the remote:  "nc -l a.b.c.d 1234 | pv | dd of=/dev/null"
[01:03] <nightwork> oh, that is a good point.
[01:03] <nullx> what is a.b.c.d 1234?
[01:03] <nullx> that I don't understand
[01:03] <wymillerlinux> nullx: VM's let an individual run multiple machines at once with one computer https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads A computer inside a computer XD
[01:03] <nullx> a.b.c.d is ip
[01:03] <nightwork> I meant upgrade the ram
[01:03] <TJ-> nullx: of the remote PC on the LAN, ues
[01:04] <nullx> wymillerlinux: I'm well aware what a VM is, but it'd have to be on the same PC so wouldn't that be a totally useless test?
[01:04] <nullx> and what's 1234?
[01:04] <TJ-> nullx: the port number
[01:04] <nullx> oh ok
[01:04] <nullx> cool
[01:04] <Guest94485> what's the differece between "tar -zxvf" and "tar -xvf" to exract a .tar.gz file. is there a point to add the -z?
[01:04] <mat1tc> hi all - was hoping someone could help me with a keyboard issue
[01:04] <nightwork> okay, is it hard to change the JRE?
[01:04] <nullx> Guest94485: do man tar, look for the z explanation ideally ;)
[01:04] <daftykins> 'man tar' to find out
[01:04] <TJ-> Guest94485: it tells tar not to guess the compression type
[01:04] <daftykins> heh
[01:04] <nullx> nightwork: not that hard
[01:04] <nullx> nightwork: just google how to, its real easy
[01:04] <nullx> I want to deal with my issue first lol
[01:05] <nullx> then I'll try to help if you haven't already
[01:05] <wymillerlinux> nullx: Not necessarily, you can port forward from the virtual network.
[01:05] <nullx> wymillerlinux: oh I see so it goes to the network and back
[01:05] <Guest94485> i know it for zip but both commands work
[01:05] <nightwork> nullx, thank you sir.
[01:05] <nullx> nightwork: its quite easy, theres even a few apt ppks available to get it too
[01:05] <mat1tc> on a fewo
[01:06] <mat1tc> of my keys I get ghost presses
[01:06] <nightwork> nullx, can you send me a link. Just so I know I am starting from the right guide. I am really new to linux
[01:07] <daftykins> nightwork: it's really not rocket surgery.
[01:07] <wymillerlinux> nullx, yeah, it goes in loop, unless you port forward
[01:07] <daftykins> remove openjre, install oracle JRE... simples
[01:09] <nightwork> daftykins, yeah I know it seems easy to you guys, but I literally just started with linux and dont want to fubar it
[01:09] <daftykins> so google your version + a guide
[01:09] <davidlinuxidiot> daftykins: uploading BIOS images to imgur now
[01:09] <daftykins> there are tonnes out there, all for minecraft obsessives
[01:09] <nightwork> there are a lot of JREs out there. I just want to make sure i do it the right way
[01:10] <daftykins> no there really aren't :>
[01:10] <daftykins> just get JRE 8 from Oracle
[01:11] <puff> I'm having a little trouble, I tried installing the nvidia drivers via the software center and now I get the splash page and then my screen goes black.  Can somebody talk me through backing this out?
[01:12] <daftykins> puff: did you remove it all to restore functionality, or are you typing from something else?
[01:12] <puff> daftykins: I used shift-alt-f1 to get a terminal.  That's where I'm typing from.
[01:13] <Jordan_U> daftykins: Please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr".
[01:14] <nullx> I am back something went wrong with my pc when I moved my monitor cable heh
[01:14] <nullx> had to reboot
[01:14] <daftykins> Jordan_U: i'd love to, only i don't have a problem with that :D
[01:15] <nullx> anyyhow
[01:15] <nullx> Tj: command again please ;(
[01:15] <Jordan_U> davidlinuxidiot: Please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr".
[01:15] <daftykins> puff: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[01:15] <daftykins> puff: then reboot
[01:16] <puff> daftykins: There are 10 different nvidia packages.
[01:16] <puff> sudo dpkg -l | fgrep -i nvidia  lists 10 packages.
[01:17] <daftykins> puff: and?
[01:17] <nullx> sending pc - 64kib 22.8mib/s
[01:17] <nullx> ran 5 times highest 96.5MiB/s
[01:17] <davidlinuxidiot> Jordan: Don't know what you mean.  My name is the truth I am an idiot with linux
[01:17] <nullx> checking other pc
[01:18] <Jordan_U> davidlinuxidiot: Open a terminal, run "sudo efibootmgr" then copy and paste the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and post a link to it here.
[01:19] <davidlinuxidiot> Jordan: Im in windows
[01:19] <davidlinuxidiot> daftykins: here is my bios pics http://imgur.com/a/aj108
[01:19] <puff> daftykins: Okay, here goes again.  Back in a sec....
[01:20] <nullx> other pc max 13.1 MiB/s but its only 10/100 that pc so it makes sense
[01:20] <TJ-> nullx: OK, that looks good then
[01:20] <nullx> Tj: actually brb to make it easier im gonna install openssh on that machine
[01:21] <nullx> so I don't have to change monitor/kb/mouse every time I switch back and forth
[01:21] <TJ-> nullx: so now let's alter it to *read* from the source PC's disk: instead of "if=/dev/zero" change it to "if=/dev/sda"
[01:21] <nullx> not a specific file?
[01:23] <scarforget> clear
[01:23] <puff> daftykins: Thanks, that fixed it.
[01:24] <nullx> same speeds as if=/dev/zeroi
[01:24] <nullx> same speeds as if=/dev/zero
[01:24] <daftykins> puff: if you still want to try using proprietary drivers, you may want to share an "lspci"
[01:24] <nullx> and same if I chose a file on either disk
[01:25] <daftykins> Jordan_U: hrmm it's one of those Windows 8.1 with Bing machines that davidlinuxidiot has, so i wonder if it's a quirky 32-bit EFI thing
[01:25] <puff> daftykins: Nah, it's been a long day.  So long, I can't really figure out why I wanted to try nvidia drivers.
[01:25] <nullx> just 1 sec gonna give the other PC ssh
[01:25] <puff> daftykins: I have some hazy memory of poor performance and thinking maybe proprietary drivers would help.
[01:25] <daftykins> :)
[01:25] <daftykins> they often do, for nvidia
[01:25] <TJ-> nullx: OK, now we swap, and change the remote PC's "of=/dev/null" to "of=/tmp/test.dat" so the received data is written to disk
[01:26] <puff> daftykins: I have a thinkpad t520 with nvidia optimus.
[01:26] <nullx> k sec
[01:27] <nullx> ah shit Tj
[01:27] <nullx> I've been doing it wrong the whole time
[01:27] <nullx> I didn't realize the remote PC is of=
[01:27] <nullx> I thought I read if=
[01:27] <TJ-> nullx: :D
[01:27] <nimitta> if logrotate is failing, would there be a log of that somewhere?
[01:27] <nullx> that actualy makes more sense lmao
[01:27]  * TJ- hums
[01:28] <davidlinuxidiot> http://imgur.com/a/aj108
[01:28] <davidlinuxidiot> BIOS pics
[01:28] <nullx> Tj: getting about 11.3 mib/s sustained with /dev/null
[01:28] <nullx> gonna try disk next
[01:29] <nullx> similar speeds
[01:29] <nullx> sending file.. similar speeds
[01:29] <nullx> ok
[01:29] <nullx> now /tmp
[01:29] <nullx> 10.9 - 11.3 mib/s
[01:30] <nullx> same with /dev/sdc
[01:30] <nullx> :(
[01:31] <TJ-> nullx: is that MegaBits/s ?
[01:31] <nullx> it says MiB I assume it means megabytes
[01:31] <TJ-> nullx: right, so to x8 to get Mbits/s
[01:31] <nullx> 90.4 max
[01:31] <nullx> over 10/100
[01:32] <TJ-> nullx: all of that seems to confirm the transfer itself isn't an issue (so no need to change MTU). Reading from/writing to disk alos seems to confirm no disk I/O issues holding things up... so guess where that takes us? :D
[01:32] <TJ-> nullx: name resolution :)
[01:32] <nullx> im listening lol
[01:32] <Osirus126> nullx: either it means megabytes or men in black
[01:32] <nullx> how do I fix name resolutions
[01:32] <Osirus126> lol
[01:32] <nullx> Osirus126: well what the hell is the .3 then lol
[01:32] <TJ-> nullx: you need to discover where in the path the problem is
[01:33] <nullx> Tj: I have an idea, I'm gonna confirm its an NFS issue on the new linux box as well
[01:33] <Osirus126> nullx: men in black 3
[01:33] <nullx> :)
[01:33] <Osirus126> hahahahah
[01:33] <Osirus126> jkjk
[01:33] <wymillerlinux> nullx, Sounds about right, that's what I get on my machines with 10/100
[01:33] <nullx> wymillerlinux: yup
[01:33] <nullx> im not worried about that actually
[01:33] <davidlinuxidiot> So if anyone can help an idiot it would be awesome if I have to deal with windows 10 for another day I might just jump out a real window.  I installed the most recent ubuntu distro on my acer aspire laptop, but it still boots to windows.  I ran boot repair here is the report   http://paste.ubuntu.com/12539379/.  Here are pics of my BIOS settings ht
[01:33] <davidlinuxidiot> tp://imgur.com/a/aj108.  Please help I am so frustrated and also an idiot.
[01:35] <daftykins> stop throwing about the idiot thing, it is not acceptable to go around with that attitude
[01:35] <nullx> Tj: I wish I had a good router, this is a piece of junk that came from my ISP lol
[01:36] <nullx> yup confirmed same issue over NFS on linux box (of course lol)
[01:36] <nullx> gonna try smaba
[01:37] <davidlinuxidiot> Ok well I don't know programming or linux very well but I can navigate xwindows and I prefer to use it as a OS since windows is horrible and Macs are too expensive.  But I am not super good with the nitty gritty of the OS hence how badly I need you alls help
[01:38] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: The PC uses UEFI, Ubuntu is installed as Boot0003 in the UEFI boot menu. Windows is Boot0002. It looks as if maybe you have Windows set to the default *and* UEFI fast-boot enabled so that the UEFI doesn't offer the boot menu at boot-time. Enter UEFI setup and look for indications of a setting that sounds like 'fast boot' that is enabled currently
[01:38] <yourname> TJ:good point
[01:39] <nullx> Tj: lol this sounds retarded to me but should I install bind9 (or whatever it is) and point all my machines to it for dns?
[01:40] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ: How do I "enter" UEFI setup?  in BIOS??
[01:40] <TJ-> nullx: I doubt it. Usually, your gateway/router will do DNS relay/caching from your ISP's DNS servers. It will give its own IP address out over DHCP as the nameserver
[01:40] <nullx> YEAH
[01:40] <nullx> oops caps
[01:41] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: The PC has no BIOS. It was replaced by UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface). There will be a key you can hold down at power-on that gets you into the Setup
[01:41] <davidlinuxidiot> yeah F2
[01:41] <davidlinuxidiot> I guess thats what Im calling a BIOS
[01:41] <TJ-> nullx: Are all the issues caused by the Linux server that has samba/NFS installed?
[01:41] <nullx> Tj: I don't know
[01:42] <nullx> Tj: but when windows 7 was on it this was a non issue
[01:42] <somsip> !tab | nullx
[01:42] <TJ-> nullx: as in, are the transfers that suffer always accessing the samba/nfs Linux server?
[01:42] <nullx> Tj: this one yes
[01:42] <nightwork> okay, i got sun java installed, how do I set my java_home to it. the guides just says dont forget to set java_home
[01:42] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ:  Did you look at my BIOS images on imgur?  Could you lead me to where I setup UEFI settings?  I had no idea in the 4 years since I have had to enter a BIOS that the computer world doesn't call that a BIOS anymore
[01:42] <somsip> !java | nightwork
[01:43] <nullx> nightwork: you might have it set just have to log out and back in
[01:43] <TJ-> nullx: look at its "/etc/nsswitch.conf" and in particular its "hosts:" line (which controls the services and order of name resolution
[01:43] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: let me scroll back to find it
[01:43] <nullx> Tj: under hosts it says files, mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
[01:44] <nullx> something tells me that's a weird line
[01:44] <nullx> what's mdns4?
[01:44] <davidlinuxidiot> http://imgur.com/a/aj108
[01:44] <davidlinuxidiot> tj
[01:45] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: that doesn't show the "Security" or "Boot" options
[01:45] <TJ-> nullx: mulitcast-DNS (avahi aka bonjour)
[01:45] <nullx> ah
[01:45] <TJ-> nullx: OK, that looks like the default so no winbind there
[01:46] <nullx> k
[01:46] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ: Did you see all five screen shots?  That is my entire UEFI
[01:46] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: No, I can only see one: "Exit"
[01:47] <nightwork> I already installed oracle java8. But if I run java --version it says could not create JVM unexpected error occured. The if i run apt-get install oracle-java8-installer it says it is installed. but the other guide mentioned that I had to set the JAVA_HOME variable
[01:47] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: ok, they're appearing now
[01:47] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ: Scroll down
[01:49] <nullx> Tj: wow I had a feeling, I changed it to "files dns" then restarted nfsd, it sped up by about 3 fold on the 10/100 pc
[01:49] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: for some reason the photos were taking ages to be received. Looking at the "Boot" menu I'm surprised we don't see "Ubuntu" there, although Windows Boot Manager is listed as #8 of #8
[01:49] <nullx> 8.5 megabits/s to about 30-60
[01:49] <nullx> lemme test on my phone
[01:49] <TJ-> nullx: aha!
[01:49] <The_Woodsman> does anyone have any suggestions for the following situation: I successfully installed ubuntu from a USB drive on to a hard drive partition, but now i cannot boot using this partition - even in my BIOS / UEFI, i don't have an option to select that partition
[01:50] <TJ-> nullx: possibly mdns/multicast is being dropped by the router
[01:50] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ: I know its weird
[01:50] <nullx> Tj: we'll see once I test the other devices
[01:50] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: On the "Security" tab I see something interesting though...
[01:50] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ F12 boot?
[01:50] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: "Select an UEFI file as trusted" ... which looks to expect you to select a file.
[01:51] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ:  So I booted into GRUB last night by hitting F12 but today it went straight to Windows boot manager
[01:51] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: I'd suggest investigating that by pressing Enter. I'm guessing you'll get a basic file navigation prompt. You should navigate to the "ubuntu/shimx64.efi" file
[01:53] <nullx> Tj: false alarm, it looks like it started high but then went down to same speeds
[01:53] <nullx> other devices completely unaffecte
[01:53] <nullx> d
[01:53] <nullx> however I have a hunch still this could be it, gonna reboot and ill be back in a min
[01:53] <nightwork> okay, so i figured out how to get java to update so now i am using the sun java. but minecraft server still lags and kicks people out. I have a 2.3ghx, quad core and 2 gigs of ram. Running ubuntu 14.04 and I changed it to only run the terminal, no DE. the debugger for minecraft server says that 'something is taking too long' then lists what is taking too long. root.level.world.tick, root.save
[01:53] <nightwork> etc
[01:53] <nightwork> anyone have any ideas?
[01:53] <nightwork> I dont have a firewall running either
[01:53] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ: Ill try it now
[01:54] <TJ-> nightwork: sounds like a minecraft issue; check whether it requires the java VM to reserve more memory for heap/stack etc.
[01:55] <nightwork> When I run it I am using -Xmx1536M and -Xms1536M
[01:55] <nullx> yeah no difference lol
[01:55] <nullx> I was hoping
[01:56] <TJ-> nullx: Is the switch always in the circuit for the tests you are doing? can you remove it just for a test?
[01:56] <nullx> sure
[01:57] <sandman7> EatMoPossum!
[01:58] <nullx> no change sadly
[01:58] <nullx> hum
[02:01] <nightwork> I dont understand this. even when no one is logged into the server it has warnings about not being able to keep up
[02:01] <nullx> nightwork: and this is j2se latest?
[02:01] <nullx> err
[02:01] <nullx> java whatever
[02:01] <TJ-> nullx: well that's a good thing really, since it indicates the switch isn't the cause. One device proved.
[02:01] <jpmh> I am running ubuntu on a very restricted machine.  I do not need man, I see that there are a bunch of .gz files in /usr/share/man - is there ANY possible reason to keep them ?
[02:02] <nullx> Tj: such a tricky issue.  So weird.
[02:02] <nightwork> I just updated to oracle 8
[02:02] <TJ-> nullx: how about connecting 2 devices to the switch, but don't connect the switch to the router. Manually configure the network interfaces on the PCs, test using your usual file transfer method
[02:02] <nullx> Tj: I have a thought - to see if its the modem/router itself.  How about I share NFS on the other box and test speeds from this one?
[02:02] <nullx> Tj: I'll do this nfs idea first then yes
[02:05] <cheer> hello,good afternoon
[02:06] <TJ-> nullx: Is it possible you've got 2 devices on the network with the same IP? And on that note, could this be an IPv6-preferred-over-IPv4 issue?
[02:06] <nullx> Tj: my network doesn't even support ipv6.. and *VERY* interesting, it's the same speed
[02:06] <nullx> well a little faster
[02:06] <nullx> 12 megabits/s
[02:07] <cheer> IPV4
[02:07] <TJ-> nullx: but the Linux PC will likely support it. We had a lot of issues with this on 12.04 and to some extent 14.04
[02:08] <nullx> Tj: so you think I should disable ipv6?
[02:09] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ: I hit enter and went into hdd>UEFI>ubuntu> and then entered shimx64.efi and it brought up a prompt "Do you wish to add the file to allowable databases"  Underneat that it said "Boot Descriptor" and under that it said yes no but would not let me hit yes until I entered something in the boot descriptor field and  so I typed yes hit enter and then
[02:09] <davidlinuxidiot>   hit yes.  restarted and it still boot to windows, what did I do wrong?
[02:09] <davidlinuxidiot> Oh after I hit enter on yes it said "FILE is exist"
[02:09] <ziggyfish> I am trying to install ubuntu via a USB. I downloaded Ubuntu 14.04 and used the Startup Disk Creator, however half way through the installation it says theres an IO error (error 5). I tried to use Ubuntu 15.04, but the same problem. I also have verified the iso so I know thats not the problem. What else can I do?
[02:10] <sanner> Can someone help me with a wrong going clock? It either goes two hours wrong or, when it finds internet, sets itself right but my hardware clock wrong so that other OSes end with a wrong time.
[02:11] <wymillerlinux> ziggyfish, Do you have another USB device?
[02:11] <sanner> ziggyfish, might be an broken usb drive.
[02:11] <daftykins> ah you should've set it to non-UTC so it doesn't ruin the other OSs
[02:11] <sanner> How do i do that?
[02:11] <ziggyfish> sanner, yeah I do
[02:11] <ziggyfish> let me see if that works
[02:11] <nullx> Tj: k disabled ipv6 alltogether
[02:12] <nullx> not present in ifconfig either
[02:12] <davidlinuxidiot> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/dOv5b2qWQdCnF790gKHA
[02:12] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ that is the screenshot of the prompt
[02:14] <nullx> Tj: k ill be back in a few gonna try what you said
[02:16] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ or daftykins: What is it asking when it says boot descriptor?  Does it just want me to label my Ubunu boot as something?
[02:16] <davidlinuxidiot> also if that is the case it still has not helped load ubuntu
[02:16] <MannyLNJ> Evening everyone. I converted my Thinkpad z560 from Windows 10 to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, but I have a problem. My battey stops charging at 78% Any ideas why?
[02:17] <Bashing-om> sanner: Windows defaults to considering the hardware clock to being local time. Ubuntu (and pretty much all *NIX systems) defaults to considering the hardware clock to be UTC. So every time you boot Windows it's "fixing" the hardware clock, and setting it back X hours from UTC to your local time.// What is set in the file /etc/default/rcS for UTC ?
[02:18] <sanner> I never had windows, but thanks for the long text. The other os is another ubuntu.
[02:18] <davidlinuxidiot> OMG can anyone help me?
[02:19] <leo__> hi¡¡
[02:19] <Bashing-om> sanner: Still check that " UTC=yes ' on both machines in the /etc/default/rcS file .
[02:19] <sanner> Doing right now.
[02:20] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: That prompt looks good.
[02:20] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ what does it want me to type after boot descriptor
[02:20] <davidlinuxidiot> ?
[02:20] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: the Description is the human-readable entry: e.g. "Ubuntu"
[02:20] <davidlinuxidiot> Is it just asking me to label the boot?
[02:21] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: correct
[02:21] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ ok well I labelled it YES and nothing happened just booted into windows
[02:22] <sanner> Bashing-om, its no for this one and yes for the other. Tell me is this supposed to be Yes for the default? The comment implies so but then why does it say no?
[02:22] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: on the "Boot" menu are you able to re-order the entries? I suspect it is picking the first available valid boot entry
[02:22] <ziggyfish> wymillerlinux, sanner it worksing better now, thanks
[02:23] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ: I will check but Windows was always the last boot option
[02:23] <wymillerlinux> ziggyfish, Anytime, happy to help :)
[02:23] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ:  I'll check brb
[02:26] <Bashing-om> sanner: The default for linux is "yes" ..to set the sysetn to use UTC time .
[02:26] <Bashing-om> system*
[02:28] <sanner> Bashing-om, i used the ubuntu minimal disk, apparently its wrong for them.
[02:29] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ: that totally worked thank you so much it is so nice to be in ubuntu.  Anyway to set up a dual boot now or do I justreconfigure the boot order when I want to load windows?
[02:30] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: There should be a key you can press at boot-time to bring up the boot menu, where you can then select the entry to boot
[02:30] <Bashing-om> sanner: I too installed from minimal. I do not recall changing that variable .
[02:30] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: check in the user manual
[02:30] <sanner> Weird :/
[02:30] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ: thanks man super awesome, I LOVE UBUNTU SUPPORT!
[02:31] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: if you can let us know there is a key to get the boot menu, *and* that it allows you to select a different OS, please tell us! We've had several users with the same issue and you're the first one we've been able to sort out without several days of investigation
[02:33] <davidlinuxidiot> hmm ok I don't think I have a manual thats very extensive for this laptop.  I will search the web should I search "What is the key to bring up a boot menu ACER UEFI?"
[02:33] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: that info is usually in the standard user guide
[02:34] <davidlinuxidiot> Oh its totally F12
[02:34] <davidlinuxidiot> I will double check right now but last time I did it it had the windows boot loader I bet now it offers me the ubuntu loader as well.
[02:36] <MannyLNJ> Evening everyone. I converted my Thinkpad z560 from Windows 10 to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, but I have a problem. My battey stops charging at 78% Any ideas why?
[02:39] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: possibly some kind of ACPI bug in the firmware. "acpi_osi=Linux" might help
[02:40] <davidlinuxidiot> TJ:  F12 brings up the boot menu and ubuntu is now available for me.
[02:42] <TJ-> davidlinuxidiot: Thank you :) we'll add that to our knowledge base for Aspires
[02:52] <Lope> Is there any way to disable touchpad touch clicks on the MDM login screen?
[03:03] <badbodh> Lope: ubuntu doesn't use mdm. it uses lightdm
[03:04] <MicroAlien> What;s up everyone
[03:04] <badbodh> ufo
[03:04] <Lope> ah, how can I execute a command when lightdm has started up?
[03:05] <MicroAlien> Anyone have the problem of your wifi card not working when you downloaded ubuntu on a new computer ??
[03:05] <badbodh> MicroAlien: what wifi card do you have
[03:05] <cfhowlett> MicroAlien, please avoid wasting time with "anyone else ... " type questions.  tell YOUR details and YOUR issues.  thanks
[03:05] <badbodh> Lope: you can switch to tty shells to run a command. to auto run a command with mdm, add it to your xinitrc file
[03:06] <badbodh> cfhowlett: should have said "no" just to look at his face :P
[03:06] <cfhowlett> badbodh, I'm not that twisted.   [or AM I?}
[03:06] <MicroAlien> Killer 1525 802.11ac 2x2 WiFi and Bluetooth 4.1
[03:07] <badbodh> oh you
[03:07] <badbodh> eh? killer wifi ? never heard of that . ok google...
[03:10] <badbodh> MicroAlien: run "lspci -nn|pastebinit" and share url
[03:10] <magic_ninja-lap> I'm trying to install 64-bit ubuntu but I keep getting an error "unable to locate live file system"
[03:10] <badbodh> MicroAlien: are you on wifi-less pc right now ?
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> magic_ninja-lap: disabled fastboot and secureboot?
[03:11] <MicroAlien> yes i am
[03:11] <MicroAlien> but i run a wifi usb
[03:12] <badbodh> MicroAlien: ok, if you don't have pastebinit installed , run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" , if you already have it run the above command
[03:13] <magic_ninja-lap> lotuspsychje, I'll do that first, I really have had no clue where to begin
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | magic_ninja-lap
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> magic_ninja-lap: single boot ubuntu or dualboot?
[03:14] <magic_ninja-lap> new computer, I have 2 hdds and 1 ssd 1 bootable usb
[03:14] <MicroAlien> okay ill let you know how it goes.....thanks
[03:14] <magic_ninja-lap> i'm going to put the sides on this machine and fire it up
[03:15] <magic_ninja-lap> give me 5
[03:15] <badbodh> MicroAlien: that isn't the solution. that's for id-ing your excta make and model of network cards
[03:15] <badbodh> *exact
[03:16] <Lope> badbodh: thank you very much. rebooting
[03:17] <MannyLNJ> Evening everyone. I converted my Thinkpad z560 from Windows 10 to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, but I have a problem. My battey stops charging at 78% Any ideas why?
[03:17] <cfhowlett> MannyLNJ, batteries do that.
[03:18] <cfhowlett> MannyLNJ, my max charge = 90%
[03:19] <cfhowlett> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/check-battery-life-health-ubuntu-linux
[03:20] <MannyLNJ> cfhowlett, I didn't want to hear that. I was hioping it was something in Ubuntu causing it to stop charging. I may go back to windows then because I want to print coupons from the PC and the coupon printer won't work under wine or in a virtual envoronment
[03:21] <cfhowlett> MannyLNJ, this is normal battery behavior.  nothing to do with the OS and it happens on windows as well.
[03:22] <nullx> Tj still here?
[03:22] <nullx> same problem over switch with static ip
[03:22] <nullx> lma
[03:22] <nullx> o
[03:26] <magic_ninja-lap> lotuspsychje, i dont' see any settings for secure boot
[03:26] <magic_ninja-lap> and I have an option for uefi or legacy + uefi
[03:27] <cheer> static 10086
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> magic_ninja-lap: single install ubuntu or dualboot?
[03:27] <magic_ninja-lap> single
[03:27] <magic_ninja-lap> it wants to boot my usb drive as "uefi"
[03:27] <magic_ninja-lap> and you said to disable uefi correct?
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> magic_ninja-lap: yes but first, change to legacy yes
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> magic_ninja-lap: fastboot + secureboot must be turned off both
[03:28] <magic_ninja-lap> fastboot is off
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> magic_ninja-lap: and if you install to ssd, make sure bios is set from IDE to AHCI
[03:28] <magic_ninja-lap> I booted it in uefi and it worked haha
[03:28] <magic_ninja-lap> it is ahci
[03:29] <nullx> so I'm gonna restate my issue ive been having since I installed ubuntu, can transfer over iperf or nc at very fast speeds, but over nfs/samba/sftp it's limited to under 10 megabits (instead of up to 90+ megabits), internet wise I'm able to download faster than this, disk drives have been tested.. Tj thinks its name resolution and/or my router (I tried a switch with 2 ubuntu 15.04 static ips - both failed to be any faster)
[03:30] <nullx> If anyone can offer any help, much appreciated
[03:32] <Volund> So just so you guys know.
[03:32] <Volund> I've been a Windows user for like 10 years.
[03:32] <Volund> I've been using Ubuntu now for maybe half a week.
[03:32] <nullx> okay
[03:32] <cfhowlett> Volund, your point?
[03:33] <Volund> Believe it or not, I just found myself thinking, 'you know what, I am actually doing everything I need to do pretty easily.'
[03:33] <Volund> That is awesome.
[03:33] <Volund> Sheesh, no need to be so sarcastic guys. @_@
[03:34] <somenickyy> volund nerds are just like that
[03:34] <somenickyy> don't take it personally
[03:34] <nullx> Volund: linux in general is a lot better than it has been for sure
[03:35] <Volund> :D
[03:35] <Volund> I just need to make a few things more convenient and I'll be ret-2-go!
[03:35]  * Volund just discovered that Filezilla has a site manager.
[03:36] <nullx> the only thing that still bothers me on ubuntu desktop is office, but even then its not THAT bad
[03:36] <nullx> its like using a really old version
[03:36] <nullx> I mean, unless something better has come out recently
[03:37] <nullx> and don't get me wrong it's no easy task
[03:38] <Volund> I got my hard drives completely converted over to ext4 and reorganized - 7 years of clutter and mutter all completely reorganized. I got VNC working, samba working, I've got all of my work stuff, and web browsing... got pretty much everything going.
[03:38] <nullx> Volund: you may also want to look into LVM it's pretty cool
[03:38] <Volund> Logical Volumes?
[03:39] <Volund> you mean like RAID?
[03:39] <nullx> it does raid but it does other stuff as well
[03:39] <nullx> well actually now that I think about it it's largely raid lol
[03:39] <hellslinger> hi guys, does anyone know when UFW gets loaded at bootup? I'm noticing that my router doesn't work right if forwarding ip tables load after ufw?
[03:39] <Volund> hrmngh. I would LIKE to setup my two drives in a RAID1 arrangement. is it possible to engage LVM on a drive that already has data on it?
[03:40] <Volund> I'm assuming not easily. :|
[03:40] <DammitJim> I'm having issues with a domain user authenticating when I try to log on
[03:40] <DammitJim> the workstation has been joined to the domain
[03:40] <DammitJim> but it only pam_unix(su:auth): authentication failure; logname=linuxsupport uid=1000 euid=0 tty=/dev/pts/0 ruser=linuxsupport rhost=  user=pdadmin
[03:41] <Volund> oooh. domain logins
[03:41] <DammitJim> where should I look to troubleshoot this?
[03:41] <Volund> as someone who learned Active Directory, this interests me.
[03:41]  * Volund wonders what Linux uses in place of AD.
[03:41] <DammitJim> I have 20 ubuntu servers that work
[03:41] <DammitJim> just not this one
[03:41] <DammitJim> *sigh*
[03:41] <DammitJim> I joined using krb5, winbind, and samba
[03:41] <cfhowlett> DammitJim, ask #ubuntu-server or #networking        ??
[03:41] <DammitJim> but for my life, I can't see any information as to why it's failing
[03:42] <DammitJim> the /var/log/auth/log only says what I pasted when I try to su - to that domain user
[03:47] <magic_ninja> lotuspsychje: installed and up
[03:47] <magic_ninja>  HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-38-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 3.38GHz ** RAM: Physical: 15.6GB, 95.1% free ** Disk: Total: 213.4GB, 92.7% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation 804  Technotrend Budget T-3000 Hybrid ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia2: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Realtek Semic
[03:47] <magic_ninja> onductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 7m 24s **
[03:48] <magic_ninja> hmm, I'm on mint, must have grabbed the debian based ...
[03:48] <daftykins> !mint
[03:48] <Ben64> please stay on topic in this channel
[03:48] <daftykins> please take your mint questions to ^
[03:48] <magic_ninja> no questions here
[03:49] <daftykins> then keep your foreign distro speak away ty :)
[03:49] <nullx> hahah
[03:53] <mine_mine> hello
[03:54] <daftykins> lo
[04:07] <ubuntu123456> Hi guys
[04:09] <ubuntu123456> Anyone use irc on a mobile? I'm trying it now
[04:09] <cfhowlett> !touch | ubuntu123456,
[04:10] <ubuntu123456> Why'd you write touch with the ! Symbol in front?
[04:10] <daftykins> it was a bot factoid
[04:10] <ubuntu123456> I'll check that link now thanks
[04:10] <daftykins> it made the bot talk to you
[04:12] <ubuntu123456> I get duped by bots more often than I would like to admit
[04:12] <MicroAlien> What is the best linux platform?
[04:12] <daftykins> a mean op had a whole conversation with me through one when i was new to IRC :(
[04:13] <ubuntu123456> Ok I don't feel as bad anymore
[04:13] <cfhowlett> I think that might constitute bot abuse, daftykins
[04:14] <daftykins> :D
[04:15] <ubuntu123456> I came here because i thought  making an irc server in Ubuntu would be a cool project
[04:15] <Guest51463> hi all, I have a fresh install and am getting an error after running apt-get update.  after running the suggested command i get access denied (or something of that sort anyway) here is the error any help would be apreciated;}
[04:16] <Guest51463> (gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:6984): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory
[04:17] <LambdaComplex> MicroAlien: What do you mean by platform exactly?
[04:18]  * cfhowlett prefers the table top platform
[04:18] <daftykins> Guest51463: version?
[04:19] <Guest51463> 14.04 xubuntu i386
[04:19] <daftykins> boot your install media again and check it for defects
[04:19] <Enfermiizah> hola..
[04:20] <cfhowlett> !es | Enfermiizah
[04:20] <Enfermiizah> Hello..
[04:21] <daftykins> hi, got a question?
[04:22] <Guest51463> thanks, i will try, system seems to be running fine, im on it now. if there is an error, do i need to re-install or can be fixed?
[04:23] <daftykins> Guest51463: well checking you installed from good media is a good step #1
[04:23] <daftykins> can't know what to do next without checking that one
[04:23] <guest-DpFgt1> hello. I use 14.04.3 64 bits. AMD Radeon R9 380 GPU with propietary drivers from Synaptic, last thing I did was setup the Compiz to have all magical effects, turn it off, and when I tried to login to my PC again it would not reckognize my password, actually, it would try to login bet then return me to the login screen. I Ctrl-Shift F3 and purged all fglrx drivers, reboot and reisntall them, reboot, and still can't login
[04:23] <Guest51463> yep, makes sense, thanks
[04:24] <iamrohit7> i can use gnome-control-center to create a hotspot on my debian install but why can't i do the same with gnome-control-center in my ubuntu install?
[04:24] <MicroAlien> like ubuntu, debian jessie etc...
[04:24] <daftykins> guest-DpFgt1: check your /home for files not owned by you. "ls -al ~/"
[04:24] <daftykins> MicroAlien: that's nice but this channel is for support only
[04:25] <MicroAlien> Okay was just wondering
[04:27] <guest-DpFgt1> daftykins, How do I make it so I can see the output by page
[04:27] <daftykins> ls -al ~/ | less
[04:29] <guest-DpFgt1> daftykins, Ok, I have no idea what am I looking for XD
[04:29] <guest-DpFgt1> daftykins, What files make my PC not let me login?
[04:29] <LambdaComplex> guest-DpFgt1: ....lolwut
[04:29] <daftykins> something that says "root root" beside it instead of "yourusername yourusername"
[04:30] <LambdaComplex> daftykins: That's an interesting question. Fill me in?
[04:30] <daftykins> after the actual support query is resolved perhaps
[04:30] <LambdaComplex> Okay, just tell me what file he's checking the owner and group of :P
[04:30] <daftykins> guest-DpFgt1: or you could just run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit" and link me
[04:31] <daftykins> everything in ~ to diagnose login loops
[04:32] <daftykins> guest-DpFgt1: getting there?
[04:36] <guest-DpFgt1> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12551253/
[04:36] <daftykins> oh dear yes
[04:37] <daftykins> guest-DpFgt1: "sudo chown -R administrador: ~/" then reboot
[04:37] <guest-DpFgt1> daftykins, What do you see there?
[04:37] <guest-DpFgt1> ok
[04:37] <daftykins> files owned by root
[04:38] <guest-DpFgt1> daftykins, How did that happened?
[04:38] <daftykins> i guess you ran something silly like 'sudo startx' :>
[04:38] <[n0mad]> I see it all the time
[04:38] <guest-DpFgt1> daftykins, I did :)
[04:39] <daftykins> yep, never again
[04:39] <guest-DpFgt1> I promise
[04:39] <daftykins> haha
[04:39] <guest-DpFgt1> Thanks a lot!
[04:39] <guest-DpFgt1> I'll see if it works
[04:39] <daftykins> np
[04:55] <trong> hihiihihi
[04:55] <daftykins> morning
[05:01] <eurodance> how do i make f5 refresh my browser
[05:01] <daftykins> it already does 0o
[05:02] <eurodance> I sue xubuntu
[05:02] <eurodance> use
[05:02] <jan_> Hello All
[05:04] <jan_> Please suggest me chat shorthand sofware ? I want to  use this app every day as our own support ticket system.
[05:05] <daftykins> this is an IRC chat network, you can make your own
[05:05] <daftykins> no idea how you'd make it short :P
[05:06] <cfhowlett> jan_, you *could* use the software you're using right now, could you not?
[05:11] <Archyme1> msg
[05:13] <Archyme1> what is command to see all file folder sizes in a directory using terminal?
[05:21] <jeaye> Where are the channel logs?
[05:22] <cfhowlett> !logs | jeaye
[05:23] <jeaye> thanks
[05:23] <jeaye> Ah, that makes since harder to grep.
[05:23] <LambdaComplex> Archyme1: Probably du or df
[05:24] <jeaye> Anyone else been having issues with clang-3.6 from llvm-toolchain-precise-3.6 not being found with apt?
[05:24] <LambdaComplex> Archyme1: (both support -h for human-readable)
[05:24] <jeaye> Been happening on my travis-ci 12.04 machines, after having worked for weeks.
[05:25] <LambdaComplex> Archyme1: ncdu (ncurses du) is also very nice
[05:27] <LambdaComplex> Archyme1: I think "du -h -d 1" is probably the closest exact answer to your question
[05:28] <LambdaComplex> (and -a will include files rather than just folders)
[05:33] <sangloupmon> 哈喽
[05:33] <sangloupmon> 有人吗
[05:33] <cfhowlett> !cn | sangloupmon
[05:33] <icecoldkilla> Hi
[05:33] <sangloupmon> HI
[05:34] <icecoldkilla> How are you?
[05:34] <icecoldkilla> :)
[05:34] <sangloupmon> I AM fiine
[05:34] <icecoldkilla> Lubuntu 14.04.3 LTS here
[05:34] <sangloupmon> my english is very bad
[05:34] <icecoldkilla> Nice to meet you
[05:34] <icecoldkilla> So is mine
[05:34] <sangloupmon> me too
[05:35] <sangloupmon> you are chinese?
[05:35] <cfhowlett> sangloupmon, ask your ubuntu question.  or perhaps ask in #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[05:35] <icecoldkilla> Same pinch
[05:35] <icecoldkilla> No.
[05:35] <icecoldkilla> What is your question?
[05:35] <sangloupmon> where are you come from?
[05:35] <icecoldkilla> India. You?
[05:35] <cfhowlett> sangloupmon, doesn't matter.  ask your UBUNTU question
[05:36] <sangloupmon> china
[05:36] <icecoldkilla> Hello neighbour
[05:36] <icecoldkilla> Mainland?
[05:36] <sangloupmon> hi , india is a very beautiful place
[05:37] <cfhowlett> icecoldkilla, sangloupmon if you want to socialize, go to a private channel.  this is ubuntu support.  please stay on topic.
[05:37] <icecoldkilla> China is great! Ni Hao
[05:37] <tachibana> just installed LXDE from software market
[05:37] <icecoldkilla> Sorry. My Chinese brother, please ask your question
[05:38] <icecoldkilla> I hope I'm able to help you with ubuntu
[05:38] <tachibana> logged out, and its still booting up
[05:38] <tachibana> in Unity
[05:38] <sangloupmon> please ask your question？
[05:38] <tachibana> how do I remove unity
[05:38] <sangloupmon> What problem？
[05:38] <icecoldkilla> Yes. You need some help with Lubuntu?
[05:38] <tachibana> and initiate my install of LXDE
[05:38] <icecoldkilla> Tachibana why don't you install lubuntu instead?
[05:39] <icecoldkilla> It's the same ubuntu in LXDE
[05:39] <sangloupmon> my english is very poor
[05:39] <tachibana> wouldn't that be like waisting 200 mb bandwidth vses downloading 13 mb?
[05:39] <cfhowlett> sangloupmon, I told you the chinese channel = #ubuntu-cn
[05:39] <icecoldkilla> You're right though
[05:40] <tachibana> no wai
[05:40] <icecoldkilla> Sometimes things go horribly wrong when changing DE
[05:41] <sangloupmon> i want to learn english with you
[05:41] <tachibana> last time i installed gnome perfectly then tried apt-geting and software managering for the same file
[05:41] <tachibana> to download XDFE
[05:41] <cfhowlett> sangloupmon, this is not the "learn english" channel.   sorry.
[05:41] <tachibana> and ubuntu would not bootup
[05:41] <icecoldkilla> Add me sangloupmon
[05:42] <tachibana> i even aptget update and upgraded twice inbetween installs and it still came out courrupting the system somehow?
[05:42] <tachibana> so I am slowly accepting I am inferior
[05:42] <icecoldkilla> It happened with me
[05:43] <icecoldkilla> You're not inferior, my friend. It's just that you need to have a little more expertise
[05:43] <icecoldkilla> The only susscessful DE installation I have done is installing XFCE
[05:43] <sangloupmon> i add you <icecoldkilla>
[05:44] <tachibana> you magician
[05:44] <icecoldkilla> Thanks Sangloupmon
[05:44] <icecoldkilla> There are guides online
[05:55] <tachibana> just removed unity and update/upgraded, hopefully i didnt need to install lxde again to reupdate architecture things somehow.. :/ wish me luck i really dont want to install ubuntu again 5 times
[05:56] <tachibana> :'[
[05:56] <icecoldkilla> Best of luck
[05:56] <icecoldkilla> :)
[06:07] <tachibana> no luck
[06:08] <tachibana> unity is now trying up all weird with bi loauncher or menubars
[06:08] <tachibana> and i gotta navigate with limited command line
[06:09] <icecoldkilla> Have you done some reading online?
[06:09] <bsdnoob> hello , i need bit of help
[06:10] <tachibana> from a few web pages and forum questions and hundreds of answers
[06:10] <notalanturing> bsdnoob: just ask
[06:10] <tachibana> literally
[06:10] <bsdnoob> ubuntu is not installing in uefi mode
[06:10] <tachibana> omg uefi mode
[06:10] <bsdnoob> i just installed it and grub loads only in legacy mode
[06:10] <tachibana> makes me want to throw a yheti out 7 story window
[06:10] <icecoldkilla> Have you found some reliable tutorial
[06:11] <bsdnoob> how can i fix it ?
[06:11] <bsdnoob> debian is having same problem
[06:11] <bsdnoob> :/
[06:11] <tachibana> now im attempting to try installing xfce4 from commandline over lxdecorrupted and tainted unity shell
[06:11] <notalanturing> bsdnoob: May I suggest the following reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI ?
[06:12] <tachibana> should i update/upgrade before logging out? or restart or what?
[06:12] <bsdnoob> notalanturing, yes i read it
[06:12] <icecoldkilla> You can restart and do the upgrade update part later
[06:12] <cfhowlett> !who
[06:13] <tachibana> do you think not restarting is the cause of this problem?
[06:13] <tachibana> on guides i keep seeing just logout i swear
[06:14] <bsdnoob> notalanturing , when i choose 'something else' and assign efi partition as mount point
[06:14] <icecoldkilla> You can see if restarting works
[06:14] <bsdnoob> it just shows /dos and /windows
[06:14] <bsdnoob> no /boot/efi
[06:14] <bsdnoob> :(
[06:15] <bsdnoob> and if i use automatic installer , ubuntu is installed in bios mode
[06:15] <bsdnoob> no efi mode
[06:16] <bsdnoob> even  Boot-Repair tool does't shows to install grub in efi partition
[06:16] <bsdnoob> what can cause this?
[06:16] <notalanturing> bsdnoob: I assume you want to dual-boot with Microsoft Windows and Ubuntu?
[06:16] <icecoldkilla> Is there a separate ubuntu installer with UEFI support?
[06:16] <bsdnoob> yes
[06:16] <icecoldkilla> You can see if there is
[06:17] <bsdnoob> no ubuntu installer automatically detects uefi
[06:17] <icecoldkilla> Hi Sonali
[06:17] <notalanturing> What computer are you using?
[06:17] <bsdnoob> lenovo z51
[06:18] <bsdnoob> i updated bios few days back
[06:18] <bsdnoob> can that cause this?
[06:18] <icecoldkilla> Perhaps
[06:18] <cfhowlett> unlikely
[06:18] <icecoldkilla> Stock Lenovo bios?
[06:18] <bsdnoob> yes
[06:18] <icecoldkilla> Then it cannot
[06:19] <bsdnoob> few months back , everthing installed as expected but i don't know what's happening now
[06:20] <icecoldkilla> Have you google searched "ubuntu not installing UEFI mode"?
[06:21] <bsdnoob> i did
[06:22] <bsdnoob> and i did not get any definitive answers
[06:22] <icecoldkilla> What has changed since when you were successful between now when you have failed?
[06:23] <bsdnoob> bootloader installation fails or is installed in bios mode
[06:23] <icecoldkilla> What may be causing this problem
[06:23] <bsdnoob> i boot usb drive in bios mode , would that cause any trouble ?
[06:24] <icecoldkilla> I don't think so
[06:24] <icecoldkilla> A lot of people use pendrive to boot
[06:25] <bsdnoob> i previously used dvd for installation
[06:25] <icecoldkilla> You can try and see if it works with a DVD
[06:26] <icecoldkilla> UEFI is relatively new. So there may not be ample support for UEFI related problems
[06:26] <bsdnoob> also , is there any way i can run QCA61x4 wifi card in ubuntu ?
[06:26] <saru_> hey .i have aprblm with my ubuntu.when i switch on to ubuntu.it displays only desktop background.no launcher no icons.i cannot open terminal
[06:26] <tachibana> logging out with xdfce4 wish me luck
[06:26] <icecoldkilla> Do you dual boot with windows?
[06:27] <icecoldkilla> Best of luck
[06:28] <wyoung> stub: Sounds like unity died
[06:28] <icecoldkilla> Saru does it occur after a fresh install?
[06:29] <duser8> hi. is programm "hfsprogs" broken in ubuntu? I cannot mount dd-image from mac (hfs+) via partitions-offset anymore: error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[06:31] <saru_> wyoung: yeah i tried that too.i reinstall and enabled unity pluging
[06:31] <saru_> but i lost in 5 min
[06:31] <saru_> back to same postion
[06:58] <mezadi> hello
[06:58] <ziggyfish> Does anyone know if Ubuntu 15.10 will be shipped with Kernel 4.3?
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !15.10 | ziggyfish
[07:02] <saru_> how to get back unity
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> saru_: what did you do exactly?
[07:05] <saru_> when i saw the pronlem mention abv.i referd on net.install untiy.and done unity reset
[07:06] <saru_> it worked for 5 min.the again all icons launcher disappeard
[07:09] <tachibana> it ruined my machine wont login now
[07:09] <saru_> lotuspsychje: what to do?
[07:10] <tachibana> i even tried purging all xfce lxde and unity and reinstalling lxde so it for sure could be my ownly
[07:10] <tachibana> only GUI running? so whats next??
[07:10] <tachibana> im lost for all ideas, so i am actually now trying to apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | tachibana
[07:13] <mezadi> y'a t'il quelqu'un en ligne qui parle français?
[07:15] <hateball> !fr | mezadi
[07:17] <Anticom> Hi all. I need some urgent help please. I'm missing my unity bar on the left as well as the menu bar on top and all the bars on the windows to drag them arround
[07:18] <Anticom> only thing i did yesterday was adding a new ppa and running update+upgrade. I've removed the ppa already and ran update+upgrade again, restarted pc but no success yet
[07:18] <Anticom> any hints what might be gonig wrong?
[07:33] <absklb> how mouch time ubuntu paste lives?
[07:35] <DJones> absklb: I don't they expire, if I go to paste.ubuntu.com/1/ thats dated 22nd February 2013
[07:35] <murlidhar> is anyone using budgie DE or cinnamon DE ?
[07:35] <murlidhar> am not sure i can find a ppa to install one
[07:39] <somsip> !ppa | murlidhar
[07:43] <murlidhar> somsip: thanks
[07:45] <absklb> DJones: how can I request to delete one?
[07:46] <DJones> absklb: I don't know, I'm not sure if its possible
[07:47] <fyj> hai
[08:01] <lalalala> hi everyone, is it possible to copy apt-get app to another ubuntu (without re-download)?
[08:02] <cfhowlett> lalalala, yep.   apt-get appname.  do not install
[08:02] <lalalala> e.g apt-get jdk8 or something, because it's big size, i want to copy it than re-download it
[08:03] <lalalala> cfhowlett, right apt-get install
[08:03] <cfhowlett> lalalala, READ what i sent you
[08:03] <lalalala> i dont know that trick, let me try
[08:04] <cfhowlett> my mistake lalalala  = apt-get download appname
[08:04] <lalalala> right ...
[08:05] <cfhowlett> note: this doesn't address dependencies ...
[08:05] <lalalala> thank you cfhowlett
[08:05] <cfhowlett> lalalala, happy2help!
[08:14] <auspetrol> hey guys, is there any way to force minicom to use a non-standard baud rate for my FTDI usb to serial?
[08:14] <Anticom> still couldn't get my desktop fixed. Any suggestions on what to do, when i'm missing th launcher on the left as well as the menu bar on top and on all the windows?
[08:14] <auspetrol> i'm trying to open it with a baud rate of 250000, but nothing works. it works fine on windows...
[08:14] <cfhowlett> auspetrol, wrong cahnnel
[08:14] <cfhowlett> *channel*
[08:15] <auspetrol> oh, sorry! which channel should I use? (also, it doesn't have to be minicom)
[08:15] <cfhowlett> auspetrol, try #hardware
[08:15] <auspetrol> i'm running Ubuntu, so this was the first channel that came to mind!
[08:15] <auspetrol> roger, thanks for that mate
[08:17] <absklb> DJones: ok
[08:18] <mezadi> en ligne?
[08:18] <cfhowlett> in english?  mezadi
[08:18] <mezadi> hello boss
[08:19] <cfhowlett> mezadi, greetings, but I'm not the boss.  ask your ubuntu question
[08:19] <mezadi> thank you cfhowlett
[08:20] <cfhowlett> happy2help!  mezadi
[08:30] <karl_> finaly got some software to backup my server, now i can install one thing at a time and if i need to go back i can :)
[08:35] <slicepaperwords> I'm trying to learn bash scripting for ubuntu, is there a better channel I should join?
[08:36] <somsip> slicepaperwords: #bash
[08:36] <cfhowlett> !bash | slicepaperwords strangely enough ...
[08:36] <somsip> !terminal | slicepaperwords
[08:37] <slicepaperwords> okay thanks
[08:38] <b> hi everybody
[08:39] <Guest3446> i amguest3446
[08:39] <cfhowlett> Guest3446, ask your ubuntu question
[08:40] <Guest3446> why ubuntu 14.04 has menu not visible in first instance?
[08:41] <Guest3446> I am answering in facebook ubuntu group about menu not visible; i answerred right upper corner there is menu
[08:45] <Guest3446> and where is menu system setting in ubuntu 14.04??
[09:06] <saru_> hi
[09:06] <saru_> my unity is dead.i tried renabling it.but it fails.
[09:06] <saru_> what to do
[09:07] <kuricooly> try to not using ubuntu
[09:07] <XeonSquared> install XFCE or KDE
[09:07] <lelznot> hello. Is there any way I could hide a particular folder in an external HDD?
[09:07] <kuricooly> cinamon should be tnough
[09:08] <k1l_> !details | saru_
[09:08] <XeonSquared> leznot: put a . at the start of the name
[09:09] <kuricooly> so enyone know something abotu elementary os ?
[09:09] <k1l_> kuricooly: their support channel does. ask them
[09:09] <rory> !elementary
[09:09] <kuricooly> but its sucks, isn't ?
[09:10] <saru_> when i start ubuntu nothind displays except desktop background.cannot open terminal.i refferd in net for the problem it showed unity i installed unity pluging.but notthing happens.it still displays only desktop background.i canot even operate terminal
[09:10] <k1l_> kuricooly: this is #ubuntu, we focus on #ubuntu and its official flavors in here. for other distris see their suport or ask in ##linux
[09:10] <k1l_> saru_: what did you do before this happens?
[09:11] <alig> hi peeps
[09:11] <kuricooly> awww
[09:11] <saru_> i kept my lap on and slepy.batry completed and turned off.when i turned on this happen
[09:11] <alig> how type command to open gui app only
[09:12] <alig> ?
[09:12] <alig> in termianl
[09:12] <alig> terminal
[09:12] <pesari> alig: what are you trying to do
[09:12] <alig> well
[09:12] <kuricooly> ctrl+shift+f1
[09:13] <kuricooly> sudo lightdm start
[09:13] <alig> type for example
[09:13] <alig> "opera"
[09:13] <alig> but when close terminal
[09:13] <k1l_> saru_: so you see the login screen. but afterwards it doesnt work? does the guest account work?
[09:13] <pesari> alig: try "opera &"
[09:13] <saru_> yeah.
[09:14] <saru_> guest account also same happens only desktop cannot operate any thing
[09:14] <k1l_> saru_: guest acc works?
[09:14] <saru_> same happens with guest account k1l_
[09:15] <alig> it closes opera too
[09:16] <k1l_> saru_: did you install video drivers? what video card is it and how did you install the driver?
[09:16] <alig> ctrl_shift_f1 dont work
[09:16] <alig> i disable desktop ))
[09:16] <alig> ok
[09:17] <k1l_> alig: what are you trying to do? run without a desktop?
[09:17] <saru_> no i did not install any video drives.but recently before that incident i coned libre office code
[09:18] <alig> yes
[09:18] <alig> ok with opera work
[09:19] <alig> but with Tilda no )
[09:19] <alig> i use Terminator console
[09:19] <k1l_> alig: some programs require a desktop enviroment
[09:19] <rubytor> saru... do you get login screen?? when you put your password nothing happen?? Is it the error??
[09:20] <alig> well
[09:20] <alig> i didnt close eviroment
[09:20] <alig> i closed all panels and icons
[09:20] <saru_> yeah i get login screen and iam able to login.after that nothg happens\
[09:20] <k1l_> saru_: ok, we need th dmesg and Xorg.log from /var/log/  in a pastebin to see what the issue is
[09:20] <alig> only right click menu
[09:20] <alig> on desctop
[09:21] <rubytor> sudo rm ~/.Xauthority
[09:21] <rubytor> and reboot
[09:21] <saru_> k1l_: i did not understand can u say it more clearly
[09:21] <alig> btw how can i restore it ?
[09:22] <k1l_> saru_: we need to see the logs to get a clue what is going wrong on your system. so we need to see the "dmesg" and "Xorg.log" called logs which are placed in /var/log
[09:22] <k1l_> alig: what desktop is it?
[09:22] <alig> gnome
[09:23] <k1l_> alig: does the guest account work properly?
[09:24] <alig> yex
[09:24] <alig> yes
[09:25] <alig> d'u know how call control panel from console ?
[09:25] <saru_> so say me what should i do so that i can clear this problem
[09:25] <k1l_> alig: in user terminal do "mv .config .config.backup"
[09:26] <alig> doesnt exist )
[09:27] <k1l_> saru_: right now it could be thousands of issues. i suspect it a driver or kernel issue but i dont know due to lack of details. those logs could help getting to know.
[09:27] <saru_> okk
[09:28] <rubytor> did you try? sudo rm ~/.Xauthority
[09:28] <saru_> no
[09:29] <saru_> i will try this
[09:29] <rubytor> try it!
[09:35] <alig> ok, solved )
[09:35] <alig> nohup opera &
[09:36] <hypermist> why would you be mean rubytor :(
[09:37] <saru_> no failed
[09:37] <rubytor> hypermist: what??
[09:37] <hypermist> rubytor, it could break morwe stuff :p
[09:39] <rubytor> hypermist: well dont use it.... For me it has resolve problems like that!!
[09:39] <hypermist> rubytor, and i also read it wrong ;)
[09:39] <hypermist> I thought u told him to rm ~/.Xauthority being his user
[09:40] <hypermist> LEl
[09:40] <lelznot> Is there anyway to hide a particular folder in an external HDD?
[09:40] <TJ-> lelznot: hide from who/what ?
[09:42] <lelznot> I have my personal stuff in a folder. I have to lend it to my friend.
[09:43] <TJ-> lelznot: You could possibly encrpyt it using ecryptfs. If your home directory is already using that, and the friend will use a separate user profile, then that would be sufficient - although it doesn't stop the files being deleted
[09:43] <ion__> ey
[09:43] <vvH1p|a5h> Hello, I'm starting to use ubuntu and I would like some help. I'm trying to install skype on my 64bits system and I'm having problems. First I need to remove all the junk installation that I have done and the configuration archives. I'm trying to use the command: "sudo apt-get remove skype skype-bin rm -rf ~/.skype". But it returns me: "E: Option of line command 'r' [de -rf] is unknown". Could someone help-me here?
[09:44] <auronandace> vvH1p|a5h: you don't do both comands on the same line at the same time
[09:45] <lelznot> I want the entire folder hidden and don't want the content inside it to come up in searches.
[09:45] <vvH1p|a5h> Oh tank you auronadace
[09:46] <vvH1p|a5h> Could you say-me something about how to get skype 64bits for an ubuntu up-to-date?
[09:47] <Ben64> i don't use skype, but...
[09:47] <Ben64> !skype | vvH1p|a5h
[09:47] <auronandace> vvH1p|a5h: the latest version available in the repos is 4.3
[09:47] <auronandace> vvH1p|a5h: microsoft doesn't really care about the linux client
[09:48] <blah-> i already download the theme on .themes folder
[09:48] <blah-> what is the next step in order to change the theme?
[09:48] <vvH1p|a5h> thank you so much guys
[09:49] <auronandace> blah-: depends on what desktop environment the theme is designed for
[09:49] <blah-> gnome
[09:50] <auronandace> blah-: is that the current gnome-shell or the old gnome 2
[09:50] <blah-> auronandace,
[09:50] <blah-> this is the one
[09:50] <blah-> Aurora   3.16, 3.14, 3.12  Updated
[09:50] <blah-> GTK 3.x Theme/Style
[09:50] <blah-> i'm using ubuntu 14.04LTS
[09:50] <auronandace> blah-: good, in that case after you have put it in the .themes folder you then change the theme as you normally would through the settings
[09:51] <blah-> no need to install ubuntu tweak?
[09:52] <auronandace> blah-: not as far as i'm aware
[09:53] <blah-> ok, i open system settings
[09:53] <blah-> and click appearance right?
[09:55] <auronandace> blah-: if that is how it's done for gnome-shell then yes, i'm using unity
[09:56] <vvH1p|a5h> !ekiga
[10:00] <llareek> Hello
[10:01] <blah-> but on appearance there is no icon to change the theme
[10:02] <blah-> no menu or something to click in order to change it.
[10:04] <hypermist> Is it against Ubuntu's TOS to modify and sell a modified ubuntu distro ?
[10:04] <llareek> Does somebody know how i can disable multi-touch functions in Ubuntu 14.04? I want to use 2 finger scroll but when I do i also activate some "alt-tab" like function. This makes scrolling useless and I really want to disable it.
[10:06] <k1l_> hypermist: if it comes to selling you might want to talk to canonical because of the several trademarks and licences involved
[10:06] <hypermist> how does one contact canonical ?
[10:07] <blueyed> I am not seeing events for (un)plugging a monitor in "udevadm monitor".  It changes in the output of "xrandr -q" though.
[10:07] <k1l_> hypermist: this http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/intellectual-property-policy got a listing what do look at and got a "contact us"
[10:13] <cicle> hola
[10:13] <cicle_> f
[10:13] <cicle> g
[10:13] <cicle_> alpachavi
[10:14] <hypermist> ty k1l_
[10:14] <cicle> zi
[10:14] <cicle_> holaaa gente
[10:14] <cicle> qui ets?
[10:14] <cicle> loku
[10:14] <cicle> jo soc en simon
[10:14] <cicle> xD
[10:14] <cicle_> tu ets en xavi capullo
[10:14] <k1l_> cicle: cicle_  please keep this channel clear for actual ubuntu support
[10:15] <hihhihihihihi> halo, ada yang blokir mr cicle?
[10:16] <hihhihihihihi> bisa*
[10:23] <teiion> is it possible to have nautilus/gedit/whatever have that gnome-shell-y interface where toolbar and titlebar are merged, like in gnome-tweak-tool? using fluxbox btw
[10:24] <teiion> oh, it seems it's a thing in a newer gnome/gtk version that isnt in 14.04 yet
[10:31] <verne> trollope
[11:07] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:08] <Bernzel> I have a harddrive besides my SSD where Ubuntu is installed. It contains lot's of windows stuff from a previous installation. How do I clean this drive? I tried formating it from the Disk software. But that just created a new image of the drive.
[11:08] <capsicum1> hi interested in some help on chroot
[11:09] <auronandace> Bernzel: if you formatted it then the data is effectively gone
[11:09] <Bernzel> auronandace, must've done it wrong then. It still contains all the previous fata
[11:09] <Bernzel> data*
[11:10] <neurotus> what was that package that checked after apt-get update that no processess are using old files ?
[11:10] <auronandace> Bernzel: to format the drive it must be unmounted first
[11:11] <Bernzel> auronandace, Ok! And in "Disks" What Partion should I format? 1 & 2 ? number 2 says "Filesystem" so I guess that is it?
[11:11] <auronandace> Bernzel: i use gparted, i find it more straightforward
[11:12] <auronandace> Bernzel: you should get used to the linux naming conventions for disks and partitions
[11:13] <auronandace> Bernzel: you have 2 disks, if your 1st disk is the ssd then that would be sda
[11:13] <auronandace> Bernzel: the first partition on sda would be sda1
[11:13] <auronandace> Bernzel: your second disk would be sdb
[11:16] <auronandace> !chroot | capsicum1
[11:27] <CodeChris> +
[11:27] <albert> hello
[11:28] <sad> hi
[11:28] <sad> dutch people on board?
[11:28] <albert> what do you think is better for a laptop with only 1GB of RAM? Xubuntu or Lubuntu? and which is more friendly for a simple domestic user?
[11:29] <k1l_> !nl | sad
[11:29] <k1l_> albert: i would start with Lubuntu
[11:29] <cfhowlett> albert, test both.  it's easy to do.  install one.  then install the alternate DE.  logout/choose DE/login
[11:29] <albert> now i'm installing Xubuntu in this laptop, but meanwhile i'm question your opinion cfhowlett
[11:29] <sad> on my xubuntu 14.04 plays blu-ray movies very slowly
[11:30] <cfhowlett> albert, sudo apt install lxde                will grab the alternate DE
[11:30] <albert> cfhowlett: can i have both desktops without problems?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> albert, that is for you to test
[11:31] <albert> is not my laptop, i dont want innecesary programs in the menus etc
[11:31] <jpds> albert: Then don't have two desktops installed if you don't want to confuse the user
[11:31] <cfhowlett> albert, this will grab ONLY the DE not the apps.  see for yourself: apt-get -s lxde
[11:31] <albert> okey jpds , because the user is my grandpa xd
[11:32] <cfhowlett> albert, sorry: apt-get -s install lxde
[11:32] <albert> okey cfhowlett thx
[11:32] <cfhowlett> happy2help! albert
[11:32] <brothersome> sad: Totemplayer of iets anders?
[11:33] <sad> smplayer
[11:33] <sad> gelud en beeld gaat niet samen
[11:34] <brothersome> sad: Doet VLC ook wel - maar kun je gelukkig verschuiven
[11:34] <BluesKaj> sad,  try vlc ?
[11:35] <kuricooly> How to find out running local sites on Ubuntu ?
[11:35] <sad> no , but smplayer has better subtittels system
[11:36] <sad> my english is not very good
[11:36] <BluesKaj> how do you know if you haven't tried it
[11:36] <kuricooly> How to find out running local sites on Ubuntu ?
[11:37] <kuricooly> apache
[11:38] <brothersome> kuricooly, netstat -l shows all listening ports
[11:41] <sikio> vlc has a horrible playback
[11:42] <sikio> artifacts constantly
[11:45] <Mathisen> nothing wrong with vlc
[11:46]  * Mathisen likes it
[11:46]  * cfhowlett plays HD videos ALL the time with VLC
[11:47] <bindi> vlc is horrible in terms of video quality, it really is :P
[11:47] <cfhowlett> ... if you say so.  but I ran the 4k, 60 fps big buck bunny with ZERO issues
[11:47] <bindi> it's faster and plays more thing than the others, and i use it to play things daily sure, but for my series and movies, i use mpc-hc with madvr, lav-filters and reclock
[11:48] <bindi> and we've gone offtopic bai :P
[11:50] <biprodeep> Hi
[11:50] <biprodeep> Anyone here?
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !ask | biprodeep
[11:52] <TJ->  j12
[11:52] <biprodeep> How can I integrate my AI script with Ubuntu to obtain a client?
[11:52] <biprodeep> no one has the  answer I guess
[11:53] <boichev> is there a better software to route BGP on linux ... aka without cisko routers
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !patience | biprodeep
[11:53] <boichev> than quagga
[11:53] <biprodeep> leaving anyway thanks ubottu
[11:57] <AndChat23529> Hi any good, recent books that anyone can recommend on Ubuntu security? Thanks
[12:05] <Skummbar> good morning,, may i ask for support?
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !ask | Skummbar
[12:07] <Skummbar> :) great... Ubuntu 15.04 with mate envoirement i got some problem with a Network Print. i have a Kyocera 6501i and i got the right linux drivers from the product website.. i installed it putting the PPD file in CUPS.. and it seams to work. i can print the test page.. but it takes a long time to make up the job.. and when i try to print something el
[12:07] <Skummbar> se it's basically impossible... it totally stucks. suggestions?
[12:07] <Ntemis> any help for my hd videos playing too fast?
[12:09] <Norbin> Is there a fix to this annoying bug where my 2nd letter also gets CAps-locked all the time?
[12:09] <Norbin> Others are having it as well?
[12:09] <anony> Hello everyone :) I have installed 'Ubuntu 14.04' using the Automated process + LVM, I was wondering how to add swap space. (Gparted doesn't seem to work, GUI)
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Ntemis,  what's the source and player?
[12:10] <Ntemis> smplayer
[12:10] <Ntemis> mkv 1080p/720p
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !swap | anony
[12:11] <Ntemis> all began after my hw upgrade to 14.04.3 from .2
[12:11] <Ntemis> hw stuck
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Ntemis,  I haven't had much luck with smplayer. VLC works well
[12:12] <Ntemis> *stack
[12:12] <Ntemis> vlc works ok yes
[12:16] <CodeChris> boichev: it's out of scope for this channel, but OpenBSD can make really good routers with OpenBGPD. Not sure if OpenBGPD has been ported to Linux though
[12:17] <AndChat23529> Hi any good, recent books that anyone can recommend on Ubuntu security? Thanks
[12:17] <boichev> CodeChris: I have OpenBSD on my two gates, so no problem I will check OpenBGPD :) Thanks
[12:19] <aaaa^> is it possible to install Ubuntu on an NTFS usb keydrive ?
[12:19] <usr13>  AndChat23529 Not sure that I've seen one specifically on Ubuntu security.  Can you describe particular interest?
[12:20] <DJones> aaaa^: I wouldn't think so, NTFS doesn't have the necessary file permissions required by any linux distro's, you would need to reformat the usb drive with a recognised linux format
[12:21] <DJones> !persistant | aaaa^ The 2nd link from ubottu will help you installing onto a usb drive
[12:28] <AndChat23529> usr13 I suppose protecting the desktop pc from snooping..not much can be done if the ISP is compromised as they all seem to be now
[12:30] <anony> cfhowlett, thing is I use LVM (I read the guide). I 'll try to boot from usb...
[12:32] <arcsky> guys i added a user. how can i do so he cant ssh to it. and also only list his home dir with scp
[12:33] <TheDemonium> Edit (as root) /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:34] <TJ-> arcsky: hang on, you can't have it both ways. scp *is* ssh
[12:34] <TheDemonium> AllowUsers user
[12:34] <TheDemonium> sudo service ssh reload
[12:34] <TheDemonium> http://askubuntu.com/questions/16650/create-a-new-ssh-user-on-ubuntu-server
[12:35] <TJ-> arcsky: If you want to allow scp but no shell, you can add a "command ..." to the 'authorized_keys'
[12:37] <arcsky> i only want him do to scp (Send files like a ftp=
[12:37] <bindi> is there no way to get the asus xonar dg's headphone amplifier working on ubuntu?
[12:39] <bindi> C-Media CMI8786 is the audio chip, headphone amp is Texas Instruments DRV601RTJR (if that even matters) - in windows you select a headphone amp mode (<32ohm, 32-64ohm, >64ohm) and bam it works
[12:46] <silidan> does anyone here know if the usbmon kernel module has a limitation on the size of captured frames?
[12:47] <Exo_> Greetings, I have installed fresh Xubuntu 15.04 on a older Dell Mini 10 and cannot connect to the network via Ethernet cable. Troubleshooting: Reinstalled OS from new downloaded .ISO, plugged cable into another Ubuntu desktop PC to confirm function; success; and ran ifconfig. RX and TX packets had errors and no drops or collisions. There's no Web and the install kept throwing errors that it could not download from the us ubuntu archive.
[12:47] <cfhowlett> Exo_, could the network card have failed?
[12:47] <Exo_> Currently also running Xubuntu 15.04 on an identical Mini 10 with zero issues installing / updating / networking
[12:48] <Exo_> How can I find out of the network card failed (this is a real possiblity)
[12:48] <cfhowlett> Exo_, someone in the channel will know.
[12:48] <bindi> broken cable, Exo_? :P
[12:49] <Exo_> Cable function confirmed on desktop PC running Kubuntu.
[12:49] <Anthaas> Hi guys - really struggling to hold a WiFi connection for some reason. Laptop, 14.04 LTS.
[12:49] <bindi> try with the cable that works on the other dell mini
[12:49] <Exo_> ..... I unplugged the cable from the mini and plugged it into the PC................
[12:50] <Exo_> it works................................
[12:50] <hateball> Exo_: use mii-tool to find out if your card reports link at all
[12:50] <Exo_> Thank you! stand by.
[12:51] <Exo_> eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok
[12:51] <baffledbear> Anthaas, I had a similar problem with my laptop on 14.04 LTS until I updated the Kernel to 13.9. http://askubuntu.com/questions/598483/how-can-i-use-kernel-3-19-in-14-04-now.
[12:52] <Anthaas> Thanks baffledbear - I'd love to get an internet connection to fix this... :P
[12:53] <baffledbear> They are pretty helpful. haha
[12:54] <Exo_> Repeating problem for new friends: I have installed fresh Xubuntu 15.04 on a older Dell Mini 10 and cannot connect to the network via Ethernet cable. Troubleshooting: Reinstalled OS from new downloaded .ISO, plugged cable into another Ubuntu desktop PC to confirm function; success; and ran ifconfig. RX and TX packets had errors and no drops or collisions. There's no Web and the install kept throwing errors that it could not download fro
[12:54] <iwizard> hi all
[12:54] <Exo_> used mii-tool and got:  eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok
[12:55] <Exo_> but no connection - can't update
[12:55] <CreativeWolf> Heya all
[12:55] <bindi> Exo_: how do you know there's no connection? can you ping 8.8.8.8 for example?
[12:56] <Exo_> connect: Network is unreachable
[12:56] <CreativeWolf> After an upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 iptables seems broken for me
[12:57] <CreativeWolf> root@creativewolf:~# iptables -L
[12:57] <CreativeWolf> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'ip_tables': Exec format error
[12:57] <CreativeWolf> tried apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:58] <CreativeWolf> Also tried apt-get install linux-image-$(uname -r) - as it was given as a solution for this issue
[12:58] <CreativeWolf> Appreciate any help please...
[13:01] <Exo_> Repeating problem for new friends: I have installed fresh Xubuntu 15.04 on a older Dell Mini 10 and cannot connect to the network via Ethernet cable. Troubleshooting: Reinstalled OS from new downloaded .ISO, plugged cable into another Ubuntu desktop PC to confirm function; success; and ran ifconfig. RX and TX packets had errors and no drops or collisions. There's no Web and the install kept throwing errors that it could not download fro
[13:02] <Anthaas> baffledbear: Once I have installed the new kernel, do I just reboot, or...?
[13:03] <baffledbear> That's all I did
[13:03] <baffledbear> Then my wifi was more stable upon boot.
[13:10] <jiafanz> hi, where is the kdump service in ubuntu 14.04 lts
[13:11] <T3DDY> Does anyone know if I can get openvpn-as on an intel server
[13:18] <boichev> T3DDY: what is the "-as" part ?
[13:19] <boichev> Anthaas: when you reboot probably it will be the default kernel ... check with "uname -a"
[13:19] <anony> I have 14.04 installed with LVM and Home folder encrypted. I'm trying to add a swap partition but the guide didn't help much. I can only Down-size my partition by 44mb (I guess there's a different way for LVM)
[13:19] <anony> cfhowlett, ^
[13:20] <cfhowlett> anony, I see you.  sadly (?), I've never lvm'd so can't advise.
[13:21] <Anthaas> boichev: So, it says "3.19.0-28-generic"
[13:21] <anony> cfhowlett, thanks for the tip so far.
[13:22] <boichev> Anthaas: restart and recheck
[13:22] <Anthaas> My internet has been fine so far. I have rebooted.
[13:24] <T3DDY> Does anyone know if I can get openvpn-as on an intel server
[13:25] <boichev> T3DDY: what is "openvpn-as" ? I know what is "openvpn" but I do not know what the "-as" stands for....
[13:26] <T3DDY> Access Server, I have asked in the server group but Im just curous if anyone else knows
[13:26] <boichev> T3DDY: I can see packages for ubuntu on the openvpn site, why do you expect problems ?
[13:27] <boichev> T3DDY: should be like any other installation
[13:27] <T3DDY> All I can find is packages for AMD servers but my servers are intel
[13:28] <boichev> T3DDY: there will be no problems use them
[13:28] <k1l_> T3DDY: the amd64 is the name for 64bit. the patent for 64bit is from amd. its not only for amd cpus.
[13:29] <T3DDY> Thankyou, I know now :P
[13:29] <boichev> T3DDY: Good luck and have fun :)
[13:29] <shambat> I have some dkms modules that are listed as "installed" in dkms status. How can I actually use these modules? the module I want to use is "ixgbe-zc" which is a network driver, while the driver in use (checked with ethtool) is "ixgbe"
[13:30] <boichev> shambat: lsmod
[13:31] <shambat> boichev: lsmod only lists "ixgbe"
[13:32] <FenJai> Howdy
[13:32] <utu8o> is it true the laptop battery life with Ubuntu is worse than Windows?
[13:32] <neogarfield> Hi... I just installed Kubuntu 15.04 on a Dell laptop, dual booting with Windows 10. However, I'm unable to see the Windows partition from Dolphin. Any help?
[13:32] <boichev> shambat: run it as root "sudo lsmod" it should return more than one
[13:33] <shambat> boichev: there is no difference unfortunately
[13:33] <k1l_> utu8o: that depends on the exact model. but for some models the battery life is worse than windows because the manufacturer doesnt provide the same drivers for better battery usage.
[13:33] <utu8o> neogarfield, did the grub pop up when you started the computer?
[13:33] <boichev> shambat: if it is hot there try loading it with "sudo modprobe ixgbe-zc"
[13:33] <neogarfield> utu8o: Yes, I can enter Windows or Kubuntu from grub
[13:34] <FenJai> My system is telling me that my cd drive is empty even though I just used the OS using it. Why cant I see the files on my CD ?
[13:34] <utu8o> idk
[13:35] <neogarfield> utu8o: The Windows partition is fine I can access it via Windows. But it is not listed on Dolphin to mount, like it generally is in Nautilus (on other systems).
[13:35] <shambat> boichev: so this is strange. modprobe returns that it can't find "ixgbe_zc" even though I asked it to use "ixgbe-zc"
[13:35] <shambat> boichev: don't you have to provide a .ko file usually?
[13:36] <boichev> shambat: insmod requires a .ko file modprobe loads them from /lib/modules/(uname -r)
[13:37] <boichev> /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[13:37] <shambat> ah
[13:39] <shambat> so dkms has built the module, and "installed" it, but modprobe can't find it
[13:40] <boichev> shambat: search for your .ko file in the system and see if it is in the right place, maybe if it is in the wrong /lib/modules/<kernel_version> you can not load, or the name of the module is different. When you use modprobe omit the trailing .ko
[13:42] <Anthaas> Ugh - I just reminded myself why I hate laptops.
[13:43] <Anthaas> I keep tapping the touchpad with my palm while typing
[13:43] <baffledbear> HAHA. I usually turn off the touchpad while I'm typing.
[13:43] <baffledbear> But your internet is working?
[13:43] <Anthaas> It is! :D
[13:44] <baffledbear> Now is the time for celebratory dance.
[13:44] <anony> I installed "Logical Volume Manager" (system-config-lvm) and It seems that I've got 4GB of swap. - The program randomly crashes though. - My initial concern came from 'System Monitor' which has SWAP marked as "Not Available"
[13:44] <Anthaas> I wonder if there is a way to set a timeout on the touchpad so that it doesn't work until after 1 second after the keyboard stops being used.
[13:44] <baffledbear> That would be a nice feature.
[13:44] <Anthaas> Saying that baffledbear, I can't do two finger scrolling on this touchpad either.
[13:44] <Anthaas> No synaptic drivers :/
[13:44] <Anthaas> Well, none installed anyway
[13:45] <Anthaas> xinput list shows a PS/2 Generic Mouse installed, so if I do xinput list-props <id> here on that mouse I can see that it uses evdev instead?
[13:47] <baffledbear> Sorry, I can't help you there. I got my laptop from Puget Systems. They preinstalled Ubuntu and most of the drivers were already configured properly.
[13:50] <xela2244> hi, i need to restore my iphone, but i don't know icloud password
[13:51] <shambat> boichev: I tried intalling the linux headers for uname -r and doing a  dpkg-reconfigure on the dkms driver package, and it was reinstalled. Now a modprobe inserted the module and show up in lsmod
[13:51] <boichev> shambat: Good job :)
[13:52] <Anthaas> Hmm, found something in xinput list-props called evdev wheel emulation which was set to 0, put it to 1 and awaiting the results.
[13:52] <noahmg123> The locker for lexde doesn't work. If I put my laptop lid down until is suspends the session and then bring it up, I am greeted by a blank screen.
[13:52] <shambat> boichev: so now the next question is: how do I get the network interface to use the driver?
[13:52] <shambat> use thtool perhaps?
[13:53] <Anthaas> Hmm
[13:54] <Anthaas> Can someone help?
[13:54] <Anthaas> If I enter "xinput set-prop 11 276 1" and then restart, the change doesnt persist?
[13:54] <Anthaas> 11 being my touchpad, 276 being evdev wheel emulation
[13:54] <boichev> shambat: aaaa not really sure, check lspci there should be a row named "Kernel driver in use:" maybe.....
[13:55] <boichev> lspci -v
[13:56] <boichev> shambat: looking it again you can check even in lshw -C network and there is a "configuration" row and inside there is "driver=XXXXXX"
[14:03] <boichev> shambat: if the wrong driver is chosen I know that you can blacklist a module and see if the other module will be used, but the testing probably needs local access to the machine... because I just speculate  and never tried that
[14:03] <Anthaas> Has to be said that not having two finger vertical scrolling is the most annoying part of this laptop :(
[14:03] <Anthaas> I cant get the evdev configuration to work :(
[14:04] <shambat> boichev: yeah I have idrac available in case of emergency :)
[14:07] <Marenz> morning
[14:07] <alexbucuresti> morning Marenz
[14:08] <hexagonSun_> hello, I have a (potentially stupid) question, my computer has Nvidia graphics, I use the "Nvidia X server settings" proprietary driver, I have to do an underscarn because my tv is too big, or something, but the thing is, everytime I turn my computer off and on again, I have to change to my resolution and underscan on "X Server Display Configuration" ... there's a button en the thing that says "Save to X Configuration File", I clicked thinking
[14:09] <boichev> shambat: well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules
[14:11] <hexagonSun_> I'm still new and I'm afraid I might break something
[14:13] <x44x45x41x4E> Where should I check for system compromise or breaches? Running Ubuntu GNOME 15.04. Also, seeing (unknown) user in my last command output. Should I be worried?
[14:13] <shambat> thanks boichev
[14:14] <boichev> shambat: no problems and good luck with that quest :) I'm going back to BGP multihoming
[14:14] <x44x45x41x4E> lastb command also shows a weird username, 'adasd'
[14:16] <phree_node> hi there. what utility should i use to backup my files, applications, preferences etc? i want to be able to recover them on a disk partition of larger size (i decided that when i first partitioned my laptop, i made the ubuntu side too small).
[14:20] <phree_node> So in Windows, I know I cant simply copy my "Program Files" folder over to other computers, because they;ll all be missing DLL files. What about with Ubuntu? If I backup packages and applications I stored in, say, /usr/lib, or /usr/share, can I simply copy them onto a removable device and restore them on another machine?
[14:22] <len_ovo> hi all. one question. have wine, and several program (photoshop and other)how lock out/in traffic from program which installed in wine?
[14:23] <JethroTux> hi. I've just instlled linuxmint on my eepc 1025c. it has atom n2800. It goes rendering mode with video driver. video card is an intel corporation atom processor D2xxx/N2xxx integrated graphics controller (rev 09). driver actually is gma500. Any suggestion to solve that? thanks
[14:23] <hexagonSun_> I feel so sorry for all of us asking questions nobody cares to respond
[14:24] <Anthaas> People will reply when A) they can offer some assistance, and B) They aren't too busy with their own tasks.
[14:25] <Anthaas> People dont just sit here waiting for people to ask a question.
[14:25] <hexagonSun_> yeah yeah, we all read the sticky...
[14:26] <Luyin> when I ssh to a server for the first time, I'm asked to check whether it is the right machine I'm trying to connect to with something like this: https://bpaste.net/show/badeb1357aa8. Where on the server is this information stored to authenticate it?
[14:28] <boichev> Luyin: it is stored in ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[14:28] <Luyin> ah, thanks boichev
[14:28] <hexagonSun_> how to save my current nvidia config to my x config file doesn't seem like something that will take a lot of your precious time to answer
[14:29] <baffledbear> Hex: Apologies, I've never used an Nvidia card or hooked up to a TV or I'd try to answer. I'm not familiar with the Proprietary nVidia drivers.
[14:29] <boichev> Luyin: and after the first login if there is a man in the middle this hash will be different and you will know that you are not connecting to the right server
[14:29] <hexagonSun_> baffledbear: I assume most of the ones not answering is because of that, but I also assume I'm not the first person who uses the Nvidia X Server Settings on Ubuntu. thank you anyways.
[14:30] <baffledbear> That being said. Some information that might be helpful is what version of Ubuntu are you using? What card? What kind of connection? I do know that I had some issues with HDMI in 15.04.
[14:31] <baffledbear> I ended up downgrading to 14.04 LTS and my issues went away.
[14:32] <hexagonSun_> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, using an old GeFore GT430 through HDMI connection, I want to save my current X Server Display Configuration on my X config file so I don't have to configure my display everytime I turn my computer on.
[14:32] <hexagonSun_> GeForce*
[14:33] <nicomachus> hexagonSun_: Why are you having to configure every time? Are you using xrandr?
[14:33] <phree_node> I can't decide what backup/restore utility to use, or if any are suitable to my needs. Can anyone help?
[14:34] <hexagonSun_> nicomachus: I don't know, how can I check that? (if I am ussing it without knowing, is it something I shouldn't be doing?)
[14:36] <pbx> phree_node, you need to say what your needs are
[14:36] <nicomachus> well, if you're having to configure your display with every boot, then how are you configuring it?
[14:36] <alig> what console cmd to see list of wifi ap ?
[14:36] <bishops> boys and girls something is driving me crazy. When I wake my computer up or start it, my wireless goes offline for a bit then searches for a while, then connects to the network. is this something normal?
[14:37] <nicomachus> bishops: yep.
[14:37] <hexagonSun_> nicomachus: I'm using the Nvidia X Server Settings...
[14:37] <phree_node> pbx, I want to backup: *applications that I stored in various locations (/usr/share, /usr/lib, and so on), *system settings, *stuff I installed with apt-get, *python and java libraries, *personal files, *hardware drivers. But I can't make a complete image of the partition because I intend to restore it on a partition of a different (larger) size.
[14:38] <hexagonSun_> phree_node: Why don't you just enlarge your partition?
[14:38] <phree_node> hexagonSun, this will ruin my Win7 partition.
[14:38] <hexagonSun_> phree_node: that would be a good thing :p
[14:39] <phree_node> hexagonSun, that's so helpful to hear.
[14:39] <cfhowlett> eh?  resizing the ntfs partition is not a destructive act ... normally
[14:39] <jan_> s
[14:40] <phree_node> hexagonSun, don't get me wrong, I don't like Win7 that much, but I need it for certain things. I have grown to like Ubuntu very much and that's why I need more space on my Ubuntu partition. But unfortunately I still need to keep a Win7 partition. And Win7 was installed first, so messing with GParted will ruin the bootloader.
[14:41] <nicomachus> hexagonSun_: are you using the GUI to configure the X Server Settings or are you doing it manually?
[14:41] <cfhowlett> phree_node, assuming bootloader = grub, reinstall
[14:41] <hexagonSun_> phree_node: I'm not so sure about that last part, anyway, you don't have to explain yourself to random strangers on chats, I honestly couldn't care less what you like or not :p
[14:41] <hexagonSun_> nicomachus: the GUI
[14:41] <hexagonSun_> I got to go to class now, I will reconnect later, thank you!
[14:42] <phree_node> cfhowlett, so Win7 was installed before Ubuntu was installed. What does that mean for my bootloader situation? When my computer first switches on, I see GRUB, and it gives me an option to either load Ubuntu or Win7
[14:42] <nicomachus> "why won't anyone help me right nowwwww" - "ok fine I'll try" - "sorry gotta go now byeeee" ....
[14:43] <cfhowlett> phree_node, correct.  resizing shouldn't cause grub to lose the links, but if so, boot your ubuntu usb/cdrom and reinstall grub to fix.
[14:43] <albert> hi
[14:43] <cfhowlett> !grub2| phree_node
[14:44] <albert> anybody knows how can i open firefox in maximized windows using a comandline?
[14:44] <CodeChris> type firefox
[14:45] <albert> CodeChris: but the windows don't appear maximized
[14:45] <bishops> boys and girls something is driving me crazy. When I wake my computer up or start it, my wireless goes offline for a bit then searches for a while, then connects to the network. is this something normal?
[14:45] <phree_node> cfhowlett, I still don't understand. Resizing the Ubuntu partition will require that Win7 is resized, which will ruin it. Then I'll need to reinstall windows, which will later require reinstalling Ubutntu, no?
[14:45] <CodeChris> odd, does for me. You can pass commands though, check --preferances
[14:46] <cfhowlett> phree_node, false!
[14:46] <nicomachus> bishops: the last time you asked that I said "yes".
[14:46] <phree_node> which part?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | phree_node
[14:46] <cfhowlett> read the wiki phree_node.  resizing windows7 is easily done and in no way necessitates reinstallation
[14:46] <Rexter> albert, i think you'll have to create a script, then replace your firefox launcher shortcuts with the script.
[14:47] <Rexter> http://askubuntu.com/questions/53646/how-do-i-make-firefox-start-always-maximized
[14:47] <k0mp0> is it possible to remove old recognized nics from ubuntu so that the remaining two nics are eth0, eth1?
[14:47] <cfhowlett> phree_node, more precisely:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions#Windows_Vista_and_Windows_7
[14:52] <k0mp0> think i found my answer : http://clintboessen.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/removing-nic-which-no-longer-exists-in.html
[14:53] <phree_node> cfhowlett - so is this right--- I can resize Win7 using GParted, running off an Ubuntu memory-stick. (I assume GParted will also resize the Ubuntu partition with no ill-effects). Then I will likely encounter "booting problems" in Windows. To fix this: plug in Win7 stick, in GRUB choose "boot Win7", it will load up the Win7 installation tool, choose "repair installation"  - this will reinstall the bootloader and make Win7 bootable a
[14:54] <mzaza> I have a server running Ubuntu which we host on a web application project. This project has many members working on it, sometimes on the same file at the same time. To avoid any problem that could occur incase if someone has comitted changes and the other hasn't seen them yet. Is that where revision control systems comes in handy?
[14:54] <cfhowlett> phree_node, if and only if the windows doesn't boot from grub.  my win7 didn't fail when I resized, but it did immediately demand a chkdsk
[14:54] <CodeChris> mzaza: yes, check out git
[14:54] <mzaza> CodeChris: Thanks
[14:55] <phree_node> cfhowlett - so you begain with Ubuntu, and made a Win7 partition? Instead of the other way round (which is supposedly easier)??
[14:55] <Geosearchef> Does anyone of you have some experience with nvidia optimus systems using bumblebee?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> phree_node, no I did it right.  windows + ubuntu.  I later realized I needed to re-partition to gain some extra space and add a dedicated /home.
[14:56] <phree_node> cfhowlett - oh like me
[14:56] <cfhowlett> phree_node, great minds ... :)
[14:56] <dpluth> cfhowlett: couldn't phree_node resize windows from within windows? I think it'd be a bit safer
[14:56] <nicomachus> dpluth: no..
[14:57] <cfhowlett> dpluth, I did advise him of that option via the link
[14:57] <phree_node> dpluth - Windows has Disk Management, but it only lets you resize Win7 partition a tiny bit normally - because Windows puts page files and other things at the very end of the partition table.
[14:57] <nicomachus> wait, what? You can resize a windows partition from within that partition...?
[14:57] <CodeChris> I think that improved a lot with W8 phree_node
[14:58] <phree_node> nicomachus - yes that's correct, using the "disk management" utility
[14:58] <nicomachus> windows is weird.
[14:58] <cfhowlett> never used it.  gparted = magic
[14:58] <phree_node> uh-oh, I've made you all talk about Windows!!!
[14:58] <nicomachus> !ot | everyone
[14:59] <phree_node> still though, the question was germane because it was about how to get Ubuntu and Win happily side by side, after resizing them both.
[15:00] <cfhowlett> phree_node, read the last link I sent, take your time, double check before you <return> and of course, do all your backups before you do any of the above
[15:01] <phree_node> let's imagine I choose to go the GParted route like cfhowlett suggested. Can I make a backup of my drivers before I take the plunge? Because after much tinkering and updating, things are finally running quite smooth - I'd hate to think how things would go after a total fresh reinstall.
[15:01] <xpl0iter> Why would this error come: sudo: unable to resolve host ip-172-31-129-114
[15:02] <CodeChris> You could run cloneziller phree_node  so you have an exact copy of your existing HDD
[15:02] <xpl0iter> When I type sudo with any command, this error comes
[15:02] <cfhowlett> phree_node, apt-get download will grab the .debs.  save those to a save spot and dpkg -i          should the need arise
[15:02] <cfhowlett> but yeah, cloning might just be the wiser option
[15:02] <phree_node> CodeChris yeah but that's no good because I'm resizing partitions.
[15:02] <CodeChris> Well, if it goes wrong you can start again
[15:02] <CodeChris> just put the backup back on the HDD and try again
[15:03] <phree_node> cfhowlett: sorry just to clarify - runing "sudo apt-get download" will download and store .debs of my drivers someplace? where?
[15:03] <cfhowlett> phree_node, where you decide
[15:03] <mustmodify> I doubled my RAM and now I'm having problems with networking and video issues. I looked through my syslog and found "BAD grad_size" ... could that be related? Anyone have any thoughts about how to fix this? https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/0fa59bfa323fabc1bc1e#file-gistfile1-txt-L264-L301
[15:04] <cfhowlett> phree_node, and that's sudo apt-get download packagenamehere
[15:05] <cfhowlett> actually you need not sudo
[15:05] <phree_node> cfhowlett well how do I know what all my driver pakages are called?
[15:05] <lehzm> how do i search for an installed package at the cli?
[15:05] <lehzm> i want to purge an app but dont know its name
[15:05] <cfhowlett> phree_node, gotta research that one yourself.  what drivers are you referring to??
[15:05] <pbx> lehzm, what do you know about it?
[15:05] <lehzm> can i pipe an include or grep?
[15:06] <lehzm> its quake
[15:06] <lehzm> but dont know the exact pkg
[15:06] <cfhowlett> lehzm, dpkg -l | grep quake*
[15:06] <lehzm> ah cool
[15:06] <lehzm> thank you
[15:06] <lehzm> learned something :)
[15:06] <phree_node> cfhowlett - my wifi driver was acting a fool when i first got the computer. now it's settled down, i think since some updates were installed. that one in particular. i also have an nvidia driver but that's not too hard to get back.
[15:06] <cfhowlett> happy2help! lehzm
[15:07] <cfhowlett> phree_node, the wifi might seem the bigger challenge.  is it a broadcom chipset?
[15:08] <Bundestrojaner> good evening. i'm trying to install gdb-arm-none-eabi, but it fails.
[15:08] <Bundestrojaner> (is there a way to get the error in english, so i can show you?)
[15:08] <nicomachus> what language is the error in, Bundestrojaner?
[15:08] <weox> I have huge problem with BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter [14e4:4727] (rev 01) Driver , which does not work , only bcwml-kernel-source , sometime works , and It works only for a boot , if I restart , then again , I should reinstall or do something , look at dmesg output , It willed with these lines :
[15:08] <weox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12555294/
[15:09] <Bundestrojaner> nicomachus: german (my system language)
[15:09] <zykotick9> lehzm: sidenote to cfhowlett's suggestion, you might want to try "dpkg -l | grep quake" first, or if you know it starts with quake "dpkg -l | grep ^quake" (for quake it probably doesn't make much difference, but for other searches it might cut down on the clutter)
[15:09] <jaska__> update ur system
[15:09] <nicomachus> !de | Bundestrojaner you may try there
[15:09] <cfhowlett> !utopic | weox,
[15:10] <weox> ubottu: Stragly I use 14.04 but it shows my kernel is 14.10
[15:10] <Bundestrojaner> nicomachus: i know there's a prefix to get messages in english, i just don't remember it...
[15:10] <weox> ubottu: shit !
[15:10] <cfhowlett> weox, no profanity
[15:10] <weox> cfhowlett: sorry , sorry ,
[15:10] <jaska__> updates!!!
[15:11] <jaska__> are coming.....
[15:11] <lehzm> zykotick9: thank you
[15:11] <jaska__> need to restart
[15:11] <jaska__> damit!
[15:12] <weox> My ubuntu is 14.04 but it installed bcmwl from utopic version ? I cannot undersand this
[15:12] <brothersome> jaska__, It is your choice
[15:12] <gunfus> hello.. any experts on HD partitions and grub that can help me figure out this questions: http://askubuntu.com/questions/677245/adding-lvm-from-another-lvm
[15:12] <nicomachus> Bundestrojaner: this may help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/264283/switch-command-output-language-from-native-language-to-english
[15:13] <Bundestrojaner> found it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12555332/
[15:13] <Bundestrojaner> trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/gdb.1.gz', which is also in package gdb 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2 dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[15:13] <jaska__> sub
[15:13] <Bundestrojaner> nicomachus: LC_ALL=c is the prefix
[15:14] <jaska__> k.
[15:14] <phree_node> cfhowlett - no its not broadcom, it's intel. But as I say, it was a nightmare, then it just settled down, with no input from me. I think it was after a round of software updates but I can't be too sure.
[15:15] <jaska__> everythong will be fix in 15.04 update
[15:16] <brothersome> gunfus, imho not possible with grub or another tool, this is a raid question
[15:17] <gunfus> brothersome: A raid question?
[15:17] <jaska__> ubuntu is fater than windows but it hass less support than windows. i am chat bot ver 1.3 beta
[15:17] <gunfus> brothersome: maybe we are missunderstanding.. I just want to know where my Grub2 so that I don't blow it away..
[15:17] <jaska__> i where made in finland
[15:17] <cfhowlett> jaska__, spellcheck
[15:18] <gunfus> brothersome: I know is not in the MBR
[15:19] <jaska__> 1011011010 10110111011010110110 1001100110101110011
[15:19] <brothersome> gunfus: MBR points to grub2, Also keep a grub2 repair disk (that repairs the grub2)
[15:19] <jaska__> 10110110 0100100110 1101 110110110101 110 101 101011010
[15:19] <nicomachus> jaska__: stop.
[15:19] <cfhowlett> !ops | jaska__ chat bot abuse
[15:20] <Myrtti> jaska__: oliko sulla jotain oikeaa asiaa?
[15:20] <jaska__> input_erorr_#1249943094
[15:20]  * tonyyarusso snirk
[15:22] <gunfus> brothersome: right.. MBR(disk1 bootable) ---points to---> grub2 src files (disk2)..
[15:23] <brothersome> gunfus, Yes, and your grub2 files are in the filestructure of your Xubuntu
[15:23] <gunfus> brothersome: what I want to do now..is leave grub2 only on disk2, and create a new partition that I can use for adding storage to my LVM on disk1
[15:23] <gunfus> right
[15:24] <gunfus> brothersome: okay.. so maybe the solution is mount grub2 on disk1, then..
[15:25] <darkonlight> 1
[15:25] <darkonlight> hi
[15:25] <darkonlight> one question. have wine and several program. how block out/in traffic from wine
[15:25] <darkonlight>  or program which work in wine
[15:25] <cfhowlett> !ufw | darkonlight,
[15:26] <brothersome> gunfus, ok, make a small linux partition on disk 1 (ext3/ext4) and copy the grub2 files there and use the repair disk for grub2 to see if you can change to point the MBR to the right grub2 files
[15:26] <cool_boy> hi, how do I access ftp on ubunutu terminal? I am trying like ftp local_ip_address_ftp_running_on:port
[15:26] <cool_boy> it doesn't connect me to ftp
[15:26] <brothersome> cool_boy, Why don't you use FileZilla?
[15:27] <cool_boy> brothersome: because I needing to test it on a linux server
[15:27] <gunfus> brothersome: hmm yeah.. the problem is that disk1 has barely any space.. thus the reason for trying to make a new partition on disk2..
[15:27] <gunfus> hmm
[15:27] <darkonlight> thanks
[15:28] <gunfus> brothersome: I think I am just going to have to bite the bullet and move files around..
[15:29] <brothersome> gunfus, I am serious about that repair disk - so you always have an option to repair
[15:29] <gunfus> brothersome: okay.. will do.. hopefuly I can put the repair disk stuff on a USB key or something.. who uses disks now a days..? I don't even have a CD-ROM on that unit
[15:30] <brothersome> cool_boy, So you are talking about Ubuntu-server edition without any gui
[15:30] <nicomachus> cool_boy: are you sure the FTP server is configured properly and is set to listen?
[15:30] <brothersome> gunfus, yes
[15:30] <gunfus> brothersome: cool thanks for the response.. that is whay I mostly needed a linux-buddy-to-talkt-to
[15:30] <cool_boy> brothersome: yes on filezilla it is listening and working well
[15:30] <cool_boy> brothersome: yes through terminal
[15:30] <albert> i'm using xubuntu and i cant restart the system but if i choose the poweroff option then it turns frezzie before off
[15:30] <albert> anybody knows how can i fix this?
[15:30] <nicomachus> "it turns frezzie"?
[15:31] <brothersome> cool_boy, I use openssh for my webserver - that works fine
[15:31] <albert> i can restart the system without problems (fixed) but i can not to poweroff
[15:31] <albert> because it turns frezzer
[15:31] <albert> freeze
[15:32] <albert> crash, break, blocked
[15:33] <nicomachus> albert: I'm reading some interesting threads... do you have AMD/ATI drivers installed?
[15:33] <albert> is a new installation
[15:34] <nicomachus> albert: ok, is there an AMD graphics card in the machine?
[15:35] <albert> i found a suposed solution and this consist to change the /etc/default/grub and add something like 'acpi=force' but it not works for me
[15:36] <nicomachus> what version of xubuntu?
[15:36] <albert> if i type the command 'lspci | grep AMD' it returns nothing
[15:36] <albert> the same if i try with ATI
[15:36] <OerHeks> lspci | grep VGA
[15:36] <albert> xubuntu 14.04
[15:36] <cool_boy> brothersome: thing is I am working on a document management software which implements ftp, I am able to get it working using filezilla would like to get it working through command line so I can test it on server as locally
[15:36] <nicomachus> albert: some solutions here you may try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2217602
[15:37] <geosearchef>  How do I install a driver for a dedicated graphics card on an optimus laptop (haswell + gt 740m)? When using optirun i just get the error: "Cannot access secondary gpu". (dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12555400/)
[15:38] <cool_boy> brothersome: I need to pass username of ftp user(which is not a system user but only a user in a database)
[15:39] <Bundestrojaner> any idea how i can fix this error while installing gdb-arm-none-aebi:
[15:39] <Bundestrojaner> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/gdb-arm-none-eabi_7.6.50.20131218-0ubuntu1+1_amd64.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/gdb.1.gz', which is also in package gdb 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2
[15:39] <Bundestrojaner> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12555332/
[15:39] <crayolarx> albert: what does your /var/log/syslog say it is hanging on when you try to restart?
[15:40] <brothersome> coolboy, not the same as ssh? open user@localhost ?
[15:41] <nicomachus> Bundestrojaner: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:41] <jpds> Bundestrojaner: Remove gdb?
[15:43] <Bundestrojaner> nicomachus: and than try again?
[15:43] <nicomachus> then try sudo apt-get install -f
[15:45] <cool_boy> brothersome: I found it thanks, while specifying port it takes space not ':', what I was trying
[15:45] <cool_boy> thanks
[15:46] <Bundestrojaner> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12555638/ it didn't install it...
[15:46] <Bundestrojaner> the listed packages for autoremove are the dependencies
[15:47] <albert> crayolarx: nothing is working
[15:47] <nicomachus> autoremove, and then try re-installing gdb-arm-none-aebi
[15:50] <Bundestrojaner> nicomachus: same problem. shall i try to remove gdb? but i think it's not unusual to have dgb for more than one architecture?
[15:51] <Bundestrojaner> so i have no idea why the packages block each other
[15:51] <nicomachus> purge them all and then reinstall the ones you need I guess.
[15:52] <albert> crayolarx: if i type sudo shutdown -h now it turns off well
[15:52] <djjeff> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[15:52] <djjeff> 0x00007fffeed9a297 in g_slice_alloc () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
[15:53] <xela2244> hi, i need to restore my iphone but i don't know my icloud password, any solutions?
[15:53] <nicomachus> xela2244: this is not an iphone support channel...
[15:53] <cfhowlett> xela2244, only one. Ask APPLE not ubuntu
[15:53] <crayolarx> albert: so you only have issues with restarting?
[15:54] <xela2244> i tried using idevicerestore
[15:54] <albert> i dont understand nothing........ now is working well in anyway....
[15:54] <cfhowlett> xela2244, you are in the wrong channel.  we can't help you. ask apple
[15:55] <xela2244> well, does someone know how to install idevicerestore?
[15:55] <albert> crayolarx: restarting runs correctly since the first moment, the problem was when i choose 'shutdown' option (Apagar in spanish)
[15:55] <cfhowlett> xela2244, you are trolling us, right?  ha ha not funny.  go to apple.
[15:55] <xela2244> apple tells me that i need icloud password
[15:56] <albert> lol
[15:56] <cfhowlett> and now you are ignored.  later
[15:56] <nicomachus> xela2244: there is nothing we can do for you.
[15:56] <xela2244> and idevicerestore is a tool for linux, but i'm having problems installing it
[15:56] <mikkqu> hello guys, i'm currently using latest available ubuntu version: Linux xmikhka 3.8.0-19-generic #30~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 1 22:26:36 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linu
[15:56] <h00k> @info idevicerestore
[15:56] <djjeff> I told an apple genius at a apple store to install ubuntu he smiled and walked away
[15:56] <djjeff> I told an apple genius at a apple store to install ubuntu he smiled and walked away
[15:56] <mikkqu> how can I easily recompile and use new kernel? i need to modify exactly one config option...
[15:57] <h00k> !recompile | mikkqu
[15:57] <cfhowlett> !kernel | mikkqu "easily" ????
[15:57] <mikkqu> i've tried the way from the faq, but it failed at "apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r`"
[15:57] <mikkqu> i got the following messages: Picking 'linux-lts-raring' as source package instead of 'linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic'
[15:57] <mikkqu> E: Unable to find a source package for linux-lts-raring
[15:58] <xela2244> https://github.com/libimobiledevice/idevicerestore
[15:58] <mikkqu> is it okay, if I just take vanilla kernel from git? 3.8.0-19?
[15:59] <mikkqu> i don't want unexpected effects, so I would like to use the same version that I have now, just with changed option
[15:59] <mikkqu> and i can't figure out why apt-get suggesting me to get "lts-raring" src instead of what i'm currently use
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> mikkqu  there's also #ubuntu-kernel
[16:00] <mikkqu> MonkeyDust: oh, i didn't know that. i'll try to ask there as well, thanks
[16:00] <xela2244> ./autogen.sh: line 6: libtoolize: command not found
[16:01] <h00k> xela2244: you will have to check with that program's documentation, we can't do much becuse it's not in the repository
[16:02] <h00k> xela2244: if it's something you need to compile, you might need build-essentials (sudo apt-get install build-essentials)
[16:02] <h00k> xela2244: otherwise we can't really help you
[16:02] <xela2244> ok thanks
[16:04] <djjeff> meow
[16:04] <djjeff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12555719/
[16:04] <albert> is not running another tim
[16:04] <zathras> Hi. I am trying to use a Docker container defined by someone 2 years ago based on Ubuntu Precise. The dockerfile does some apt-get update/upgrade and installing. Including atempts to install apache2.2 and perl. Failing on both due to version issues. What can I do about this? I chnaged apt-get install to aptitude install but that claims perl is not installed/going to be installed. I have my doubts as perl is mandatory for lots of system scr
[16:04] <zathras> ipts
[16:08] <nicomachus> djjeff: what am I looking at?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> djjeff  what's that wall of text?
[16:09] <djjeff_> if you have no idea what gdb is you can ignore it
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> !info gdb
[16:10] <djjeff_> trying to find out why this emulator is crashing when I load a state
[16:10] <atdiehm> Hey guys, got a machine in my office here that kernel panics... the girl said he was giving her fits last week, too, but she'd reboot it and it'd be fine.  (3 beeps from the tower, and then kernel panic ) ... I booted onto the live cd, ran fdsk, it said there were errors, but it didn't seem to say anything needed repairs.  Any thoughts/ideas?
[16:12] <nicomachus> atdiehm: in my experience, kernel panics are always untraceable. However, the first thing to check is usually hardware. HDD, HDD cable, RAM. something is pushing out corrupt bits.
[16:13] <bazbing80> ENV['TERM'] : this returns the type of terminal we're running our ruby application in, right? I want to know what terminal my ruby application is running in because of discrepencies between SGR codes. I want certain SGR constants in my application to be different based on the terminal the program is running in. Now, ENV['TERM'] for a gnome terminal in Ubuntu returns "xterm". I was hoping for "gnome 6.1.3" but is "xterm" all I need? Gnome is a sor
[16:13] <atdiehm> I flipped out the ram... I'm assuming the disc has some errors, but I was confused that fsck didn't ask me to fix anything
[16:13] <bazbing80> I thought this was the Ruby channel :P But as you can see it's mostly an Ubuntu question
[16:13] <atdiehm> i guess I was hoping fsck would fix things, and I could reboot all happy-like
[16:14] <zathras> atdiehm, try smartmon-tools
[16:14] <zathras> also memtest86
[16:14] <atdiehm> smartmon-tools is something on the live dvd then?
[16:15] <zathras> no idea. I rarely use ubuntu.
[16:15] <zathras> it probably is
[16:15] <zathras> also check dmesg
[16:15] <atdiehm> I would have run memtest, but as I mentioned since I flipped out ram with another machine and got the same 3 beeps and kernel panic, I figured it was safe to say the ram isn't an/the issue
[16:15] <nicomachus> atdiehm: SMART disk check is on the live disk, yes.
[16:15] <zathras> you are probably right, yet assumption is the mother of all all f*ck ups
[16:15] <nicomachus> that'll check your HDD
[16:16] <atdiehm> kk
[16:16] <atdiehm> kuz if I can run ubuntu fine off the DVD... that seems like a solid indication that the issue is storage related, eh?
[16:19] <bazbing80> Are all terminals based on xterm the same? Are all sgr codes, for example, the same between gnome and another terminal based on xterm?
[16:22] <zathras> How can I fix (in Ubuntu Precise): perl : Depends: perl-base (= 5.14.2-6ubuntu2) but 5.14.2-6ubuntu2.4 is to be installed
[16:23] <zathras> error is produced by an installation docker script running apt-get install
[16:23] <zathras> bazbing80, ino, not all terminals are the same
[16:24] <zathras> *no
[16:30] <zathras> it looks like perl has a hardcoded version instead of a minimal and maximum version. And that in a LTS release???
[16:39] <jtheuer> Hi, which program creates the ssh keys at first boot? (aws ec2 default ami for 14.04 if that matters) ?
[16:40] <OerHeks> jtheuer, you might want to ask in ##aws
[16:41] <jtheuer> Thanks. When/how are they created when I install via CD? when the openssh
[16:42] <jtheuer> ...package is installed?
[16:42] <OerHeks> jtheuer, that is aws specific, they should be able to tell you
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> jtheuer  type /j ##aws   <-- 400+ people there
[16:45] <jtheuer> OerHeks, the second question is about cd installation and not aws
[16:45] <jtheuer> But thanks for the pointer to #aws I already asked there
[16:46] <OerHeks> jtheuer, not sure there are ssh keys generated during install from cd
[16:46] <OerHeks> you need to do that action yourself, afaik
[16:46] <OerHeks> !ssh
[16:46] <allballs> Good morning. I've just completed a 14.04 -> 14.10 upgrade, wanted to do 15.04, but I guess I had to stop in 14.10-land for a few minutes. I'm receiving a dreaded 'An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.' message during upgrade process. Need some help trying to get around this.
[16:46] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys#Generating_RSA_Keys
[16:47] <allballs> I lack sufficient knowledge on how to parse what's in /var/log/dist-upgrade to figure out a solution.
[16:47] <OerHeks> allballs, 14.10 is EOL, dead.
[16:47] <Rimann> Apparently some people have been having problems with a workspace bug, screen freezes up. It happened to me when tring to install sketchup, I had to reboot the system. What happens when you reboot in the middle of an installation?
[16:48] <cfhowlett> allballs, is there something in particular preventing you from a clean installation?
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> Rimann  you'll have to to   sudo apt-get install -f , or   sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:48] <OerHeks> allballs, you might need the eol-update trick with 'old-releases
[16:49] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> to do*
[16:49] <Rimann> MonkeyDust: ok do I just type that in the terminal? what does it do?
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> Rimann  it completes the broken installation
[16:50] <Rimann> MonkeyDust Awesome thank you
[16:51] <allballs> OerHeks: thanks. I'll give it a go. I knew 14.10 was kaput, but I wasn't paying very close attention during release-upgrade. FIgured it'd go straight to 15.04.
[16:51] <lehzm> id like to try a 15.x ubuntu variant on my desktop. the ones i like are all based on 14.x (LXLE, Peppermint). Any suggestions to try out?
[16:51] <lehzm> i do like xubuntu
[16:52] <cfhowlett> !flavors | lehzm,
[16:52] <reisio> lehzm: I suggest trying things you want to try
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> Rimann  more advanced, paste this script in leafpad or so, save as 'fixpakages', make executable and run: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12556283/
[16:53] <nicomachus> and as far as 15.x goes, 15.04 is the only release currently available. 15.10 is slated to release 18 October, IIRC.
[16:53] <cfhowlett> lehzm, but the clever folk install ONE ubuntu, add virtualbox and test ... whatever they want to test in the box
[16:53] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, false.  12.04 and 14.04 are both available and supported
[16:53] <lehzm> yeah i test them in VMs first, just seeing if there was a distro based on updated code i dont know about
[16:53] <lehzm> but cool, thnx
[16:53] <nicomachus> cfhowlett: he said he wanted to try something 15.x
[16:54] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, ah, yes.  my mistake.
[16:54] <nicomachus> we all make them, me more than most. :)
[16:55] <Rimann> MonkeyDust: is leafpad a text editor? I use sublime
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> Rimann  hence 'or so', the editor you're familiar with
[16:56] <nicomachus> Rimann: yes. it's the default on lubuntu
[16:57] <Rimann> MonkeyDust ok cool, just double checking
[16:57] <Rimann> nicomachus thanks i'm new just switched over from a lifetime of windows
[16:57] <nicomachus> Welcome. :)
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> Rimann  you're never too young to make the switch to linux
[16:58] <nicomachus> or too old.
[17:00] <Rimann> MonkeyDust what kind of file should i save it as?
[17:01] <Rimann> I love Linux so far, i'm too mechanically minded for windows
[17:02] <Rimann> MonkeyDust those first to lines you gave me did nothing
[17:03] <Rimann> this is the output for the first:  sudo apt-get install -f
[17:03] <Rimann> [sudo] password for riley:
[17:03] <Rimann> Reading package lists... Done
[17:03] <Rimann> Building dependency tree
[17:03] <Rimann> Reading state information... Done
[17:03] <Rimann> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 85 not upgraded.
[17:05] <Rimann> not sure what I just did, i posted the output of the terminal on here and it did something weird
[17:06] <OerHeks> !paste
[17:06] <lagbox> the bot quieted you for pasting to much at once
[17:06] <OerHeks> Rimann, yes you were flooding
[17:06] <Rimann> I'm so sorry guys .....Learning
[17:06] <teward> Rimann: always use a pastebin, don't ever post into IRC
[17:06] <teward> paste*
[17:07] <lagbox> Rimann, its okay, no worries
[17:07] <Norbin> How do I make the window's menus (file edit tools etc) always appear, never auto-hide?
[17:07] <CreativeWolf> Heya all
[17:07] <CreativeWolf> After an upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 iptables seems broken for me
[17:07] <CreativeWolf> root@creativewolf:~# iptables -L
[17:07] <teward> CreativeWolf: broken how?
[17:08] <CreativeWolf> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'ip_tables': Exec format error
[17:08] <CreativeWolf> Tried apt-get install linux-image-$(uname -r) - as it was given as a solution for this issue
[17:08] <CreativeWolf> tried apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade as well
[17:08] <CreativeWolf> it's all up to date
[17:09] <Rimann> Norbin i believe its system settings>appearance>behavior
[17:09] <Norbin> Rimann:  nope
[17:09] <Norbin> no such option there
[17:09] <Rimann> Norbin i'm sorry that is the launcher
[17:10] <genii> CreativeWolf: Try apt-get install --reinstall iptables
[17:10] <Guest82990> hi all
[17:11] <Guest82990> what can i do with a broken kubuntu system where the release-upgrade failed me?
[17:11] <CreativeWolf> genii, trying that now
[17:12] <Guest82990> i can't boot even into a terminal, i can't run apt-get since libstdc++6 has been deleted in the process
[17:13] <CreativeWolf> genii - root@creativewolf:/home/cw# iptables -L
[17:13] <CreativeWolf>  gives modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'ip_tables': Exec format error iptables v1.4.21: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[17:17] <genii> CreativeWolf: What says result of: file /sbin/xtables-multi
[17:18] <CreativeWolf> genii, /sbin/xtables-multi: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=2c9ed0066bf6c84ca2ec376223bb36854c8ab94d, stripped
[17:19] <genii> CreativeWolf: So 32bit binary. Does that match with the output of: uname -m  ?
[17:20] <CreativeWolf> genii, uname -m gives x86_64
[17:20] <Norbin> Rimann: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity always-show-menus true
[17:20] <Norbin> that did the trick
[17:20] <Norbin> i wonder if it's saved through reboot :P
[17:20] <Norbin> FINALLY
[17:20] <Norbin> this is 1000000000% better
[17:20] <Norbin> hate the auto hide so much :/
[17:21] <genii> CreativeWolf: So there's your problem.
[17:21] <CreativeWolf> genii, the kernel being 64 bit?
[17:22] <genii> CreativeWolf: Yes, 64bit kernel and trying to run 32bit binary
[17:22] <CreativeWolf> genii, how do I get the 64bit binary for iptables?
[17:24] <Web10> good people of Latin America ?
[17:25] <Web10> people of Latin America
[17:25] <CreativeWolf> Web10, C'mon, ask your question, all are good people here, someone will help :)
[17:26] <santiwilly> #marionette
[17:26] <genii> CreativeWolf: Try: apt-get install iptables:amd64
[17:26]  * genii runs back to work
[17:26] <Web10> I thank you very much again
[17:28] <Web10> CreativeWolf,  I am a rookie but my question about the ip
[17:28] <CreativeWolf> Web10, ask away please, someone will help.
[17:28] <genii> Web10: Depending upon which Latin America country, there are many channels for different languages and nations
[17:28] <Web10> :)
[17:29] <CreativeWolf> genii, if you aren't running back to work, it says E: Unable to locate package iptables
[17:30] <Rimann> trying to execute script in terminal, file is in current directory. access denied?
[17:31] <CreativeWolf> Rimann, Check file permissions?
[17:31] <maxvi> can I use desktop app for google hangouts?
[17:31] <genii> CreativeWolf: Does the output of: apt-config dump| grep Architecture      ...show amd64, i386, or both?
[17:31] <Web10> pueden please explicar paso a paso Disculpen Que novato mar
[17:32] <CreativeWolf> genii, Shows only i386
[17:33] <Web10> see your ip that crazy
[17:33] <AGSL> nhe
[17:34] <genii> CreativeWolf: What about apt-cache policy linux-image-$(uname -r)
[17:34] <AGSL> #portugal
[17:34] <genii> !pt
[17:35] <geosearchef> How do I install a driver for a dedicated graphics card on an optimus laptop (haswell + gt 740m)? When using optirun i just get the error: "Cannot access secondary gpu". (dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12555400/)
[17:36] <Web10> not many people living in chile :(
[17:36] <CreativeWolf> Web10, join #ubuntu-br please
[17:36] <genii> Web10: If your first language is Spanish, you can also join #ubuntu-es
[17:37] <CreativeWolf> genii, http://pastebin.com/E8d3EZzL
[17:37] <Web10> CreativeWolf,  genii  thank you
[17:38] <Web10>  join #ubuntu-es
[17:38] <geosearchef> you need a /
[17:38] <Web10> join #ubuntu-es
[17:40] <CreativeWolf> Web10, type /join #ubuntu-es
[17:40] <Web10> CreativeWolf, forgiveness bind my keyboard
[17:41] <CreativeWolf> Web10, no problem :)
[17:45] <hexagonSun_> hello friends, I'm on ubuntu 14.04 LTS, facing an issue with my display configuration, I use an Nvidia GeForce GT 430 gpu and I use the NVIDIA X Server Settings proprietary driver, now, every time I turn my computer on, I have to configure my resolution and monitor underscan, how can I make it so it works "for ever"?
[17:48] <genii> CreativeWolf: So your kernel is 32bit, binary is 32bit. Although according to uname, it's running on a 64 bit machine. It makes the "exec format error" very odd, that's usually what you see when trying to run a binary of a different platform than the kernel
[17:49] <CreativeWolf> genii, hmmm...all I did was apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[17:49] <djjeff_> !glib
[17:49] <minas114> Hi. I open "personal file sharing" and I see "this feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system". What am I missing?
[17:49] <djjeff_> !libglib
[17:50] <CreativeWolf> genii, is there a way forward or should I start from scratch? :/
[17:50] <djjeff_> !info libglib
[17:50] <Addi> #smogon
[17:50] <genii> CreativeWolf: I might try getting ahold of someone at DigitalOcean support first
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> !find libglib
[17:50] <C_minus> hello can I check if I've understood something correctly? Problem: I have dual boot Win7 and Ubuntu, but I made the Ubuntu partition too small. Solution: Use my Ubuntu installer mem-stick to open GParted, shrink the Win7 partition and grow the Ubuntu partition. Confusing part: I may encounter problems booting into either OS, because of bootloaders being erased. In this case, I must use the Win7 and/or Ubuntu installer sticks to repa
[17:50] <CreativeWolf> genii, okay...
 : did you install samba?
[17:51] <genii> CreativeWolf: Could be some issue specific to their repositories
[17:51] <minas114> pmaxk, nope
[17:51] <tombtc> guys what would be the command to use scp to copy files on a non-standard port?
[17:51] <reisio> C_minus: too long, cut off
[17:51] <reisio> C_minus: shrinking shouldn't play with your boot loaders, but you can reinstall them with install media for either OS
[17:52] <rimtay> hey guys
[17:52] <pmaxk> you must have a public file in home dir..
[17:52] <reisio> rimtay: bye-o
[17:53] <Addi> Hi
[17:53] <tombtc> pmaxk:  I cannot choose the path?
[17:53] <reisio> hi addi
[17:53] <pmaxk> what path?
[17:53] <tombtc> something like scp /filepath/to/file/to/copy user@IP-address:localpath
[17:54] <tombtc> but with non-22 port
[17:54] <genii> CreativeWolf: Can you pastebin result of: ldd /sbin/xtables-multi    ...so we can see if it's trying to use some non-32bit libraries?
[17:54] <lagbox> -P
[17:55] <tombtc> do you put -P after :localpath?
[17:55] <lagbox> should be able to put it where ever its just a flag
[17:56] <genii> tombtc: For simplicity put it right after the scp command like: scp -P 999  /yadda etc@somewhere
[17:57] <C_minus> Oh OK, I was reading this and was confused: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions#Windows_Vista_and_Windows_7, and then didn't fully understand this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader
[17:57] <CreativeWolf> genii, http://pastebin.com/qv29QGcr
[17:57] <C_minus> adn this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[17:58] <parapan> I lost the login credentials to a 10.04 lts server ..what can I do ?
[17:59] <C_minus> Has anybody done this before: resize both Win7 partition and Ubuntu partition using GParted?
[17:59] <tombtc> genii:  thanks! worked
[17:59] <ratrace> parapan: reboot to rescue mode, mount and fix the problem
[17:59] <C_minus> Should I do one at a time: first shrink Win7, leaving free space, and see if I need to fix the Win7 bootloader (with the mem stick). Then grow Ubuntu, and see if I need to repair its bootloader?
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> parapan  what ratrace says: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[18:01] <nullx> is there such thing as a bad ethernet card driver on ubuntu?  I'm having very slow speeds over lan transfers of files over any protocol: smb, sftp,  nfs, ftp, etc... but the internet connectivity is fine
[18:02] <C_minus> sorry got cut off there
[18:03] <parapan> MonkeyDust: with that procedure you can reset the root password ?
[18:03] <parapan> or you have to have a different than root username ?
[18:04] <genii> CreativeWolf: Yeah, that output looks fine, although you do still have legacy location of just /lib/ instead of the current location of /lib/i386-linux-gnu/
[18:04] <CreativeWolf> genii, hmmm
[18:06] <k1l_> C_minus: just from resizing the partitions (and not changing the amount or the sporting of them) should not interfer with the bootloader
[18:07] <genii> CreativeWolf: Do the files listed on the ldd output which are in just /lib/  ( libip4tc.so.0  libip6tc.so.0 and  libxtables.so.10 ) also exist in the /lib/i386-linux-gnu/   directory?
[18:07] <C_minus> k1l so is this just a kind of disclaimer about something that MIGHT happen, but shouldn't normally?
[18:08] <k1l_> C_minus: its murphys law. if you dont have backups of the important files things will go wrong :)
[18:09] <genii> CreativeWolf: Because it might be a case where it's using the ones in /lib/ first where it finds them but later editions in the other one might be what's needed
[18:09] <k1l_> C_minus: i dont see where the resizing part says you need to reinstall anything?
[18:09] <CreativeWolf> genii, checking...
[18:10] <CreativeWolf> genii, no, those files aren't in /lib/i386-linux-gnu/
[18:10] <C_minus> On the page for "Resizing Win7 partitions": "If you find you cannot boot into Windows, this guide on recovering Windows may help. <link to this page>: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringWindows
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> parapan  that page explains it better than I could do
[18:11] <genii> Hm
[18:12] <k1l_> C_minus: well. i never heard of that issue mentioned there. also i always suggest to use the resize tools from inside windows system settings to resize the windows. but gparted does the job, too
[18:13] <C_minus> Also, how does the Ubuntu partition react to being resized? Is it OK with that usually?
[18:13] <fred1807> : my sd card, /dev/sdb has 3 partitions sdb1 is fat32, sdb2 and sdb3 are ext4. How do I mount all of them from cmd line?
[18:13] <k1l_> C_minus: yes, that is an easy one usually.
[18:14] <k1l_> C_minus: but again. everytime you touch a hdd, the hdd itself can have hardware issues etc. so better have backups than to be sorry afterwars
[18:14] <k1l_> *d
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> fred1807  create a folder per partition, then mount eacht partiton to its folder
[18:14] <fred1807> MonkeyDust:  Do I have to specify fat32, ext4?...
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> fred1807  if you have to do that, you'l get an error message
[18:15] <C_minus> k1l that's the thing, I would love to use Win7's Disk Management to do it, but it only lets me shrink a tiny bit. Even after following all the tutorials about disabling page file etc. etc.
[18:15] <genii> CreativeWolf: What says result of: apt-cache policy libxtables10
[18:15] <k1l_> C_minus: did you defrag it?
[18:15] <fred1807> MonkeyDust:  Can I use 1 command to mont all of them automagically?
[18:16] <C_minus> IS this how GRUB works: Small bootloader that allows each OS to keep its own bootloader in its own partition (chain-bootloading?)? So Win7 has it's own one, Ubuntu has another one... No?
[18:17] <CreativeWolf> genii, http://pastebin.com/y7Xpvdhr
[18:17] <C_minus> k1l, I did but it's pretty fresh install, barely used it so far.
[18:19] <genii> CreativeWolf: Try apt-get install --reinstall libxtables10     ( we already did this with the iptables, which would have overwritten 3 of 4 of those library files from the ldd output, the other one belongs to this package)
[18:21] <zerothis1> Does anyone know if and where I can get an English version of NeoKylin?
[18:22] <CreativeWolf> genii, did that, same error messages with iptables -L
[18:22] <genii> CreativeWolf: I'm fresh out of ideas on it right now
[18:22] <CreativeWolf> genii, Thanks though! :)
[18:23] <CreativeWolf> genii, I think I might take a backup and get back to 14.04. Been running in to one too many issues with 15.04 not just on this box, on another one as well.
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> fred1807  no, but you can type all the commands in one lie, with ; in between
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> line*
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> fred1807  or maybe with a script
[18:25] <C_minus> What's the most comprehensive backup I can do without making a complete image of my Ubuntu partition?
[18:26] <C_minus> Is there a command to view a list of everything I've installed?
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  rsync - a --progress ~ [from] [to]
[18:27] <lagbox> dpkg -l | grep ii    maybe
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  rsync -a --progress ~ [from] [to]
[18:29] <fred1807> how do I use the GUI file manager with sudo powers?
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> fred1807  if you have to ask, you shouldnt do it
[18:30] <hexagonSun_> every time I turn my computer on, I have to configure my resolution and monitor underscan, how can I make it so it works "for ever"?
[18:31] <fred1807> MonkeyDust:  I am navigating trought the files of a SD card , it is a raspberry system, andI want to recover it
[18:31] <fred1807> MonkeyDust: Root files
[18:31] <C_minus> Why do people say it's easier/better to begin with Win7 and then install Ubuntu?
[18:31] <C_minus> (rather than the other way round)?
[18:31] <Finetundar> C_minus: because, 7 will override grub
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  because windows ruins the grub menu
[18:32] <Finetundar> C_minus: Trust me, I've done it too many times
[18:32] <C_minus> But then can't I just run the Ubuntu installer stick and hit "repair"?
[18:32] <genii> C_minus: Windows only wants it's own bootloader to be installed and doesn't play nice with other ones
[18:32] <k1l_> C_minus: the windows install will override all bootloaders and doesnt care about other OS
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  yes, you can repair it, if you like to fix things
[18:33] <k1l_> C_minus: of course you can. but its kind of doubled work.
[18:33] <k1l_> C_minus: and windows wants to sit in the first partitions in most times.
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> some people actually like to break and fix things
[18:33] <C_minus> So it's actually pretty easy - just more work/sitting around waiting for progress bars to fill up?
[18:33] <Finetundar> C_minus: no
[18:34] <C_minus> what else do you have to do besides running the Ubuntu rpair stick then? Because that sounds pretty easy
[18:34] <Finetundar> C_minus: Unless things have changed there's a lot of terminal work required to restore grub
[18:34] <k1l_> C_minus: the easiest way is to install windows and then ubuntu. the other ways do work but need more work. that is way most guides and people say: do it the easy way
[18:35] <k1l_> Finetundar: there is boot-repair which helps out in most cases.
[18:36] <Finetundar> k1l_: never had any luck with that
[18:37] <C_minus> what kind of things in terminal? if I need to run the Win7 bootloader repair tool, will that mess up the Ubuntu bootloader/GRUB?
[18:39] <Finetundar> C_minus: almost guranteed. I have a bunch of guides bookmarked on my computer at home. But why do you want to install windows after installing ubuntu?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[18:40] <k1l_> C_minus: you are making that a lot more complicated than it should be
[18:40] <Finetundar> ^^
[18:41] <C_minus> I already have Win7 and Ubuntu. But Ubuntu needs to gro, Win7 needs to shrink. Guides said maybe have to repair Win7 bootloader after this process: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-gparted-to-resize-your-windows-vista-partition/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions#Windows_Vista_and_Windows_7
[18:41] <akik> C_minus: if you write grub to the start of your linux partition, you can dd it to a file and then later in windows add it to windows boot loader with bcdedit
[18:41] <Finetundar> C_minus: so use gparted on a live image to reallocate space
[18:41] <mariano1_> Hi all, I am using a JAVA program in Ubuntu which displays a lot of messages in the command line. A couple of second after starting the program, the messages are displayed and compiz'sCPU usage raises to more than 100%. Is it normal? Should the compiz process use so much CPU? Or is the problem that my JAVA program displays to much messages in the terminal? When I don't run the JAVA program, then I have no CPU usage problems.
[18:42] <Finetundar> MonkeyDust: I think that's the best guide on that topic that I've seen
[18:43] <rockstar_> anybody knows what is the lubuntu minimalist size after installation?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> Finetundar  "if all else fails, join #ubuntu"
[18:43] <C_minus> K1l and Finetundar: I'm just saying: that howtogeek page was talking about "Unless you are very lucky, you’ll be greeted with this horrible error message saying “Windows Failed to start.
[18:43] <Finetundar> C_minus: link
[18:43] <C_minus> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-gparted-to-resize-your-windows-vista-partition/
[18:43] <Finetundar> MonkeyDust: well it usually helps
[18:44] <C_minus> [19:41] see also, link
[18:44] <Finetundar> C_minus: that article is old. Things have changed
[18:44] <C_minus> Oh yeah?
[18:45] <Finetundar> C_minus: published in '07.
[18:45] <Finetundar> Very much out of date
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  "Published 08/8/07"
[18:45] <C_minus> I just like to be cautious, read up about all the worst things that can happen after these awkward partitioning shannanigans.
[18:45] <Finetundar> C_minus: ubuntu is much more agreeable now
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> 2007... that's... how many releases ago?
[18:47] <k1l_> the first ones
[18:47] <Finetundar> MonkeyDust: 8 I think
[18:47] <Finetundar> actually no, more like 16 since there's around 2 per year
[18:48] <lagbox> 16
[18:48] <C_minus> OK didn't see that. But the Ubuntu one from 2012 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions#Windows_Vista_and_Windows_7 talks about "If you find you cannot boot into Windows, this guide on recovering Windows may help." and suggests the same as howtogeek - which would cause me problems with GRUB...
[18:50] <parapan> MonkeyDust: ratrace: that page doesn't say anything about changing the root password
[18:50] <C_minus> And in turn, this is proposed as the solution to those GRUB problems: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:50] <Finetundar> C_minus: that's in the event that something goes wrong. More likely thatn not everything will be ok.
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> parapan  remind me?
[18:51] <parapan> MonkeyDust: login to ubuntu 10.04 server , lost credentials ...
[18:52] <parapan> MonkeyDust: the prompter I have sais: Ubuntu server login ......username ........than asks for password ......
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> parapan  yes, it says something about the user password, i'm not sure about the root password
[18:52] <C_minus> Just for conversation's sake then: if one uses the Win7 boot-repair, the problems for GRUB are the same as if Win7 had been installed AFTER Ubuntu?
[18:52] <genii> Yep
[18:52] <Finetundar> C_minus: yes
[18:52] <parapan> MonkeyDust: I do not have a user@server prompter ...I do not know the user also ...
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> parapan  then i don't know
[18:53] <parapan> MonkeyDust: k...looks like I'll have to re-install ...i wanter to avoid this ....
[18:53] <C_minus> So one ought to follow the instructions for restoring the Ubuntu bootloader, GRUB (which you say can be complicated, but this site says just run the wizard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair)
[18:54] <k1l_> C_minus: the windows "repair" will always wipe all other bootloaders and will not boot other OSs. because of "we have the monopoly"
[18:54] <akik> k1l_: windows boot loader can boot grub
[18:54] <k1l_> since windows8?
[18:54] <C_minus> Thanks MonkeyDust, Finetundar, k1l and the others. You#ve been very helpful for understanding this topic better.
[18:54] <Finetundar> C_minus: You really have nothing to loose if this is a fresh install. Just go for it
[18:54] <akik> k1l_: earlier too
[18:54] <Finetundar> C_minus: np
[18:54] <k1l_> akik: oh.
[18:55] <C_minus> See you later
[18:55] <Finetundar> C_minus: see ya!
[18:55] <akik> k1l_: it's just you copy the mbr 512 bytes into a file and add it to windows boot loader with bcdedit
[18:55] <k1l_> akik: ah, so with manual work
[18:55] <akik> computer work :)
[19:08] <sweb> is there any option for increase inode limit for partion during installation ? reserve block or etc ...
[19:10] <Rimann> just executed a script to fix a broken installation. Now what?
[19:12] <Rimann> error message: a failure occurred attempting to install .NET framework 4
[19:12] <SCHAAP137> sounds like WINE
[19:12] <b-yeezi> Hi All
[19:12] <SCHAAP137> greetings, b-yeezi
[19:12] <Finetundar> b-yeezi: hello there
[19:13] <Finetundar> Rimann: yeah, perhaps re-run the wine .NET 4 installer?
[19:13] <Rimann> SCHAAPI137 WINE does this often? installation was going well until workspaces froze my pc and I had to reboot
[19:13] <Rimann> Finetundar reinstall WINE?
[19:13] <b-yeezi> I've been banging my head on this issue for a while and can't seem to find an answer
[19:13] <Finetundar> Rimann: no, no, just the .NET 4 component
[19:14] <b-yeezi> PPTP VPN is not working on 15.04
[19:14] <Rimann> Finetundar thanks, im an Ubuntu noob, will seek instruction on web. Unless you want to refer me or tell me how
[19:16] <Finetundar> Rimann: I'll help out. Just a sec
[19:16] <Rimann> Finetundar: thanks
[19:17] <parapan> MonkeyDust: it works .....one have to use the passwd root command
[19:18] <Finetundar> Rimann: so do you know how to operate winetricks?
[19:18] <Uhtred> Needing help installing Ubuntu on Dell XPS 13 (9343) Developers Edition. After install I am not able to boot to the new install.
[19:18] <Rimann> Finetundar: no never used Wine before this
[19:18]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[19:18] <reisio> Uhtred: what're you able to do?
[19:20] <Uhtred> After following a few sites and this one in particular (http://hgdev.co/installing-ubuntu-15-04-on-the-dell-xps-13-9343-2015-a-complete-guide-update/) I am still only getting to "No bootable device found."
[19:21] <Finetundra> Rimann: so open a terminal and type" winetricks --gui"
[19:21] <Rimann> Uhtred: are you able to get into BIOS? I have to specifically command my pc to boot Ubuntu due to some changes i made in the boot order while installing.
[19:21] <Rimann> Fintundra: ok
[19:22] <Uhtred> Rimann: I do have access to the BIOS.
[19:22] <Finetundra> Rimann: is it up?
[19:23] <Rimann> Finetundra yes it warned me about being in 64 bit
[19:23] <Rimann> but its up
[19:23] <Finetundra> eh, doesn't matter
[19:24] <Finetundra> so, tick Select default wineprefix cand click ok
[19:24] <MannyLNJ> I'm trying to setup a PPPTP VPN comnnection into my home network. When I try to add the connection it's greyed out
[19:24] <Rimann> Uhtred try looking in your boot options, sorry thats all the help I can give you. Its how i do mine and im new to this
[19:25] <Rimann> Finetundra ok complete
[19:25] <Uhtred> Rimann: I have tried to set the UEFI to the grub but it will not allow me to apply the change. I have full admin control of the BIOS as well.
[19:25] <Finetundra> ok now tick install a windows dll or component and click ok
[19:26] <Rimann> done
[19:27] <Finetundra> now go tick the box that says dotnet40 and click ok and then follow all the instructions it throws up. It may provide warnings but ignore those
[19:28] <Rimann> error this package does not work on 64 bit package: should I just reinstall wine on a 32 bit package?
[19:28] <Finetundra> Rimann: yeah
[19:28] <Rimann> Finetundra thank you I will do that and hopefully it will resolve the problem
[19:29] <Finetundra> Rimann: the 32 bit version of wine usually works much better than the 64 bit.
[19:30] <CarlFK> system settings, time and date, clock, [x] time in other locations, Choose Locations....  Where are those stored?
[19:31] <Rimann> Finetundra: awesome good to know
[19:31] <garle> hi
[19:31] <Finetundra> Rimann:  WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=/home/<yourusername>/.wine/
[19:31] <CarlFK> I can't add any.  if it is a text file I'll just add a text file.
[19:31] <Finetundra> Rimann: that;ll wipe and replace the 64 bit prefix
[19:31] <b-yeezi> I just figured it out. ufw was blocking the vpn
[19:32] <Finetundra> Rimann: run in terminal
[19:33] <quants_> guys im wanting to improve security on my system, any advice?
[19:34] <SCHAAP137> in which aspects quants_ ?
[19:34] <Rimann> Finetundra: Nice thats  much simpler than what I was just about to try
[19:34] <Finetundra> Rimann: :)
[19:34] <quants_> SCHAAP137 i want to ensure im safe while online
[19:34] <SCHAAP137> quants_: in a software sense?
[19:36] <Finetundra> Rimann: you'll find that you can have more than one wineprefix and different versions per prefix. It can get crazy
[19:36] <Bashing-om> !virus | quants_
 why dont i need protection?
[19:37] <wileee> quants, your question is rather vague, safe is your definition, you're the safe factor in the end, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity
[19:39] <Bashing-om> quants_: If this is a stand-alone system. uninx is a cloased system and nothing can get to the 'root' of the system unless YOU do something that is ILL advised . Presently there are no known viruses in the wild that will effect linux .
[19:39] <Bashing-om> closed*
[19:40] <Uhtred> Needing help installing Ubuntu on Dell XPS 13 (9343) Developers Edition. After install I am not able to boot to the new install. After following a few sites and this one in particular (http://hgdev.co/installing-ubuntu-15-04-on-the-dell-xps-13-9343-2015-a-complete-guide-update/) I am still only getting to "No bootable device found."
[19:40] <SCHAAP137> Uhtred: have you tried entering the UEFI boot menu? there might be an entry for Ubuntu in there
 i am using Ubunto 14.04 lts
[19:41] <nicomachus> I thought the XPS 13 came with it preinstalled?
[19:41] <Uhtred> SCHAAP137: I have and I am not able to apply the change so it is lost as soon as I exit the BIOS.
[19:42] <Bashing-om> quants_: The distro and release makes no difference so long as it has continued support . If this is a stand-alone system you have nothing to fear .
[19:42] <SCHAAP137> Uhtred: similar issue is described here: http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/4613/t/19631468
[19:43] <SCHAAP137> about not being able to change UEFI boot order
 stand alone??
[19:43] <SCHAAP137> Uhtred: it could be that "Secure Boot" is playing a part in this
[19:44] <Uhtred> SCHAAP137: I have checked that as well and it is disabled. It was disabled by default since this Laptop came with Ubuntu installed on it.]
[19:44] <SCHAAP137> ah okay
[19:44] <Bashing-om> quants_: This system is not  part of a larger LAN or working in a server environment. ( linux can be a carrier to Windows of a virus ) .
 no, its a personal laptop
[19:46] <MannyLNJ> Any CLI tools to help me figure out why my VPN won't connect?
[19:46] <SCHAAP137> Uhtred: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:46] <SCHAAP137> maybe this could work
[19:47] <Uhtred> SCHAAP137: Thanks, I will give these a shot and come back with my results.
[19:47] <SCHAAP137> Uhtred: read the link i sent you, i got it from there
[19:47] <Bashing-om> quants_: Then, you have nothing to worry about, and nothing to do . Until such time as you open the system up to the outside world what is impemented on the system ( all ports closed by default ) nothing will get to the operating system .
[19:48] <michele_> http://xdcc_CANCEL_X1443117480
[19:48] <reisio> cute
[19:49] <SCHAAP137> that looks like a script failing
[19:49] <arooni> how do i bind a bash script to a particular hot key ?  (ubuntu 14.04)
[19:52] <SCHAAP137> quants_: just keep your packages and system up to date
[19:52] <SCHAAP137> it checks for updates automatically, it's easy
 thanks for the information, can you tell me how to hide myself online, hide my ip address
 thanks
[19:55] <BadDream> hmmm such issues
[19:56] <akik> quants_: you can hide your ip address by not connecting anywhere :)
[19:56] <SCHAAP137> haha, true
[19:56] <akik> also tor, vpn
[19:56] <SCHAAP137> it's the network that makes the machine unsafe
[19:56] <surfer> whats the best way to consume DMT?
[19:56] <lagbox> well that is offtopic
[19:56] <SCHAAP137> !guidelines | surfer
[19:57] <Bashing-om> quants_: There is NO 100% fool-proof way to hide yopur IP .. that IP is your address and is why the internet works. 'tor' might give you some level of comfort .
 thanks :) i need to be anonymous
 i am using stealthy on chrome at the moment but ill give tor a go. can i do anything in the terminal that will help?
[19:58] <nicomachus> quants_ if you are TRULY concerned about anonymity, privacy, and obfuscation, then look into the TAILS OS: https://tails.boum.org/
[19:59] <Bashing-om> quants_: Then, do not connect to the internet . There is no way to be up and at the same time be completely anonymous .
[19:59] <nicomachus> but Bashing-om is right that there's no foolproof method.
[19:59] <tykayn1> hi guys
[20:00] <tykayn1> can anyone help me about installing my wifi? the cable network rj45 works, but the wifi is not detected.
 its ok im not into anthing shifty but i just like to be safe
[20:01] <SCHAAP137> tykayn1: normally, all supported wireless adapters work "out of the box" - there is a chance that yours is not supported yet
[20:01] <tykayn1> SCHAAP137: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 20)
[20:01] <nicomachus> SCHAAP137: that's being generous, when it comes to USB adapters...
[20:01] <tykayn1> yup i guess
[20:02] <tykayn1> i have a fresh install (well, updated) of ubuntu 14.04
[20:02] <SCHAAP137> tykayn1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/607707/ath10k-installation
[20:02] <SCHAAP137> it's old though
[20:03] <MannyLNJ> when I ssh into my system it says 7 packages can be update and 7 updates are security updates. i did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade but it still shows the 7 packages
[20:03] <tykayn1> mk
[20:03] <SCHAAP137> from 2011 that post
[20:03] <wileee> MannyLNJ, try dist-upgrade
[20:03] <SCHAAP137> tykayn1: the bottom answer is from july this year though
[20:03] <tykayn1> mkay ill try this
[20:05] <Bashing-om> quants_: Rigft now, you are chasing ghost. You are safe in the default install of ubuntu . If it were other wise 1800 other people here in this channel would have said.
[20:05] <MonsieurBon> I'm trying to get knockd to work. Starting knockd fails. Is there any way to check what the error might be?
[20:05] <Bashing-om> right*
 thanks for your help
[20:06] <tykayn1> done, have to reboot o/
[20:07] <SCHAAP137> that's fast
[20:07] <TechMonger> I have a ubuntu file server with a raid. is there a way to send files to it from a windows computer on the same network?
[20:07] <Bashing-om> quants_: Vondiser, that on the net there are billions of connections present. When you click on any web page, site or chat, if your addres is not known, how would you on your computer receive the response ?
[20:07] <TechMonger> i know i can putty into it but can i rsync files from a windows computer?
[20:08] <Bashing-om> !samba | TechMonger
[20:08] <SCHAAP137> TechMonger: you could use scp, or samba, or nfs
[20:08] <TechMonger> and how do these work?
 fair point
[20:09] <SCHAAP137> scp is just a filecopy over SSH, you'd need something like Cygwin on the windows machine to have it
[20:09] <SCHAAP137> using ssh from Cygwin is preferable to PuTTY, imho
[20:10] <arc__> hello everyone
[20:10] <tykayn> humpf, still no wifi
[20:10] <k1l_> TechMonger: samba is the same they call "windows data exchange" on the windows boxes.
[20:11] <SCHAAP137> tykayn: you could try using the latest firmware file
[20:11] <SCHAAP137> https://github.com/kvalo/ath10k-firmware/tree/master/10.2.4
[20:11] <jeand_> bonsoir tt le monde
[20:11] <arc__> i have a question. What cant "rm -rf *" do in a specific directory? i mean pwd -> /home/arc/some-dir/ . Does "rm -rf *" remove files and folders on other directories?
[20:12] <tykayn> hmmm SCHAAP137 how do i install it ?
[20:12] <SCHAAP137> that was described in that other post right?
[20:12] <OerHeks> arc__, yes, the -r part means recursive, the -f part = force
[20:13] <arc__> i see a wired thing. i lost everything on my /usr/ directory. i have no /usr/bin directory.
[20:13] <Bashing-om> arc__: That command would remove all files at the Present Working Directory, and ALL files below .
[20:13] <tykayn> mhmhm
[20:15] <arc__> i just can't understand something. with the exact pwd which i said above, why i lost my entire /usr, but some directories in /etc?
[20:15] <reisio> arc__: it matches what * matches, which is some things but not necessarily everything
[20:15] <reisio> and potentially nothing if you have files starting with certain chars
[20:15] <SCHAAP137> ah wait tykayn, this one: https://github.com/kvalo/ath10k-firmware/tree/master/ath10k/QCA6174/hw2.1
[20:15] <reisio> if you want a whole dir gone, target the dir and not its contents
[20:15] <SCHAAP137> firmware-5.bin
[20:16] <arc__> is there any way to recover a specific directory now?
[20:16] <reisio> arc__: /usr/* ?
[20:17] <arc__> no i don't what my usr, i had a lot of downloaded files in /etc/ which i need them.
[20:17] <reisio> arc__: where'd you run it?
[20:17] <BadDream> i installed lubuntu on my dads laptop and theres no wifi drivers....is there a way i can download the drivers on a usb stick and go install them for him?
[20:17] <reisio> BadDream: yup
[20:18] <k1l_> !extundelete | arc__
[20:18] <arc__> "/etc" is where i need back. not /usr.
[20:18] <reisio> arc__: doesn't answer my question
[20:18] <k1l_> arc__: look at extundelete and photorec
[20:18] <k1l_> arc__: but the more you use the hdd after the remove the less data will be found
[20:18] <Bashing-om> BadDream: A fresh install ? Try ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt fll-upgrade ' Then look in "additional Drivers' see if there is a driver available for the WIFI .
[20:18] <arc__> they only problem is how do i install them? with no apt-get and any other utilities?
[20:19] <arc__> should i use a live disk?
[20:19] <k1l_> arc__: if you want any data back shut that system down ASAP
[20:19] <MannyLNJ> wileee, Thanks that is working :-)
[20:19] <wileee> cool
[20:19] <k1l_> use a live system and dont touch that hdd. every using will delete(like override) more data
[20:20] <Bashing-om> BadDream: 'apt full-upgrade' * ^^
[20:23] <tykayn> thanks SCHAAP137 , ill try this later
[20:23] <tykayn> time to go, good night folks :)
[20:25] <MannyLNJ> wileee, the upgrade went in but it still shows 7 packages can be uodated
[20:26] <wileee> MannyLNJ, I have to take off, but I would show this in a paste.
[20:26] <MannyLNJ> wileee, thanks I will later tonight when I have more time
[20:27] <MRX> downloaded ubuntu 15.04
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> MRX  great, are you familiar with ubuntu or is this your first try?
[20:30] <MRX> MonkeyDust: yes
[20:31] <MRX> MonkeyDust: Im an expert in Ubuntu
[20:31] <MRX> MonkeyDust: I have 30 years of linux experience
[20:32] <MRX> madras pasangaa irukeengalaa ?
[20:32] <bekks> Which is impossible, since Linux isnt 30 years old.
[20:32] <reisio> well, linux isn't an OS, either
[20:32] <MRX> bekks: vandutaaan sappuradhuku
[20:33] <reisio> GNU's over 30, and Unix is as well
[20:33] <nemith> yes.  Lets just blindly quote rms
[20:33] <bekks> reisio: But Linux isnt :)
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> MRX  i am RMS
[20:33] <MRX> reisio: appo enna mayiraa
[20:33] <dimitry7> Hello guys! I use this rule to redirect my IAX asterisk port to the PBX server: -A PREROUTING -p udp -m udp --dport 4569 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.5.253:4569
[20:33] <MRX> MonkeyDust: RMS ??
[20:33] <reisio> bekks: sure isn't
[20:33] <reisio> bekks: the cleaner probably is that old, though
[20:34] <bekks> reisio: :D
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> MRX  if yoiu were an expert, you'd know who RMS is
[20:34] <dimitry7> but one of the peers is refusing to authenticate, but it is a firewall problem because if I put the PBX in the same server as the firewall, they have no problems.
[20:34] <dimitry7> What can be the issue?
[20:34] <MRX> MonkeyDust: in which subject are you talking about ?
[20:35] <nicomachus> MonkeyDust is not RMS... not possible.
[20:35] <MRX> nicomachus: is it
[20:36]  * OerHeks facepalms
[20:36] <mhall> I have a broken systemd file which will not load that I wrote for a daemon. How do I run a syntax check so I can figure out what in the world is wrong with the file?
[20:36] <MRX> nicomachus: he must be a noob
[20:36] <ryu945> Can centos be installed as a raid
[20:36] <MRX> ryu945: yes
[20:36] <k1l_> ryu945: better ask the centos support
[20:36] <nicomachus> MonkeyDust is not a noob. but he's also not RMS.
[20:37] <MRX> k1l_: i know centos
[20:37] <k1l_> MRX: please drop the offtopic and focus on technical ubuntu support in here. thanks
[20:37] <MRX> veruppu ethaadheengaa da
[20:37] <MRX> k1l_: saavu ku raaki
[20:38] <nicomachus> oh. now I get it. ignore me (as usual).
[20:39] <ryu945> Sorry for some reason I was thinking it was Ubuntu based
[20:40] <mhall> Any clues on systemd file debugging
[20:50] <ork_> test
[20:50] <genii> !test
[20:50] <ork_> thx bot
[20:51] <ork_> hi genii
[20:52] <genii> ork_: Hello. Seems like your IRC client works properly. If you have questions about your Ubuntu just ask them in the channel and wait for a response. For more casual conversation, we have the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:53] <ork_> thx, thats ok
[20:54] <ork_> u a bot or real person
[20:54] <genii> ork_: I can assure you that I'm an actual person. ubottu is a bot, however
[20:54] <nicomachus> genii is real. ubottu is a bot.
[20:54] <barfod> bleep bloop
[20:54] <ork_> ok
[20:54] <barfod> rusts up, malfunctions
[20:56] <DottorLeo> hi!
[20:57] <ork_> i just got ubuntu desktop running on an nvidia shield tablet, finally!
[20:57] <odinei> olá, alguem para suporte em PT-BR?
[20:57] <ork_> hi doterleo
[20:57] <k1l_> !br | odinei
[20:58] <DottorLeo> I want to know if this is a bug that should be reported :) Setup: Ubuntu 14.04, Canon PIXMA MG3550, connected via wifi. Using the free driver, with the printer test page i have all the colour very very dark, using the official .deb driver from Canon site (installing them with the install.sh script), the colours on the testing page are perfect.
[20:59] <DottorLeo> is this a bug?
[20:59] <tgm4883> DottorLeo: possibly
[20:59] <DottorLeo> what info should i report?
[21:00] <SolarNRG> how do I remove the amazon lens?
[21:00] <k1l_> SolarNRG: see the privacy settings in system settings
[21:01] <SolarNRG> why does ubuntu come bundled with spyware hence the privacy polic?
[21:01] <k1l_> !spware | SolarNRG
[21:01] <k1l_> !spyware | SolarNRG
[21:03] <k1l_> SolarNRG: (well, there is no factoid). its not spyware. you dont call your browser spyware, do you? it sends your data out, too. some users want and use that service. if you dont want it disable it or dont use the online search
[21:03] <SolarNRG> does ubuntu have less spyware pre-bundled than microsoft windows?
[21:04] <SolarNRG> I quote ubuntu's privacy policy: e don't share your personal information with anyone except to provide you with services, products, to comply with the law, or to protect our rights.
[21:04] <SolarNRG> note the except part
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> SolarNRG  great, but not in this channel
[21:04] <k1l_> SolarNRG: calling a search, that is labeled as "online search" spyware just reflects to your self as not knowing what you talk about.
[21:05] <ork_> uve got cool bots running in here :)
[21:06] <SolarNRG> kll_ can you please enlighten me with the part that states "except to provide you with services, products, to comply with the law or to protect our rights" means please?
[21:06] <k1l_> SolarNRG: so is there any support question? since you already searched for ubuntus policies etc one can think you only want to start a rant/flamewar in here
[21:07] <silenthush> Hey
[21:07] <ork_> hi hush
[21:07] <silenthush> How's it going? :)
[21:08] <ork_> great, thx :)
[21:08] <ork_> and you?
[21:08] <silenthush> Doing alright really. Just stumbling against a little issue.
[21:09] <silenthush> I'm trying to connect to an SFTP through the default file browser on ubuntu gnome, I got the ppk key and all but not sure how I should go about doing that.
[21:09] <SolarNRG> I'm asking a question
[21:09] <k1l_> SolarNRG: it does as the policy states.
[21:09] <shudon> silenthush: have you successfully connected to SFTP without using nautilus? (gnome file browser)
[21:09] <silenthush> Filezilla just failed on me, keeps giving me a: Disconnected: No supported authentication methods available (server sent: publickey)
[21:10] <silenthush> I have via FileZilla before but I did a fresh install of Ubuntu a few weeks ago and now trying to connect to the server.
[21:11] <silenthush> I had this before, it's so super random. Once I get it to work it works :/
[21:11] <ork_> maybe try and install ssh?
[21:11] <ork_> i am no xpert sry
[21:11] <shudon> silenthush: try this: ssh -v -oPreferredAuthentications=nope user@host
[21:11] <ork_> ^
[21:11] <silenthush> Hmmm ok, sec shudon.
[21:11] <shudon> silenthush: then share with us the last line (should say "Permission denied (something,something)"
[21:12] <silenthush> Should I do anything with the PPK file yet?
[21:12] <shudon> actually, i don't even think you need the -v
[21:12] <shudon> silenthush: nope
[21:12] <silenthush> Ok let me try, sec.
[21:12] <harrot> hi
[21:13] <SolarNRG> so in other words the operating system is spying on you and is sending your information to 3rd parties and by installing ubuntu you inherintly agree to the privacy policy and agree for your personal information to be shared with law enforcement, marketing companies, canonical and other organisations blackmailing the makers of ubuntu, is that correct?
[21:13] <SolarNRG> what I want to know is how is it spying on you
[21:13] <k1l_> SolarNRG: no, the OS is not spying on you
[21:13] <SolarNRG> ??
[21:13] <robert___> hello
[21:13] <SolarNRG> What apps bundled into ubuntu are?
[21:13] <k1l_> SolarNRG: none
[21:13] <robert___> what command do i use to destroy my system?
[21:14] <harrot> lol
[21:14] <silenthush> Warning: Permanently added 'mysite.com,123.123.123.12' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts.
[21:14] <silenthush> Permission denied (publickey).
[21:14] <k1l_> SolarNRG: if you type a search-word into a browser to get a search result. is that spyware?
[21:14] <silenthush> That's what I get.
[21:14] <barfod> SolarNRG it's not that bad, ubuntu like debian from which it is made is divided into 3 parts
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> robert___  sudo destroy ubuntu
[21:14] <shudon> silenthush: good
[21:14]  * genii smacks MonkeyDust
[21:14] <barfod> and only one of these really represents non-free contractual software
[21:14] <k1l_> robert___: just format the disks.
[21:14] <shudon> silenthush: now run the "file" command on your ppk file
[21:14] <SolarNRG> kll_ I know that the javascript even without hitting enter the moment your finger goes down on 'a' that a has been sent to another site and you are getting feedback and it comes back with a list of suggestions
[21:14] <shudon> silenthush: and share the result :)
[21:14] <silenthush> ./file.ppk like that yeah?
[21:15] <barfod> some open source organizations wish this functionality was not availbale in debian or ubuntu
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> genii  i thought his question was a joke, apologies
[21:15] <shudon> silenthush: no, "file yourfilename.ppk"
[21:15] <k1l_> SolarNRG: so if you know everything, what is the reason you still ask over and over again in here? stop that drama
[21:15] <barfod> but in fact the poltical divide of the repositories allows us to both operate and track freedom oriented softwares. and also utilize non-free of we need
[21:15] <barfod> for instance the only non-free software i use is for my family
[21:15] <ork_> robert, windows vista will do the job ;)
[21:16] <ork_> thx peeps for this great service, kudoos
[21:16] <SolarNRG> Well I ditched windows a few months back, went to Debian but the devs were dicks now I'm using ubuntu and I read this: http://refugeeks.com/ubuntu-spyware-is-it-true/
[21:16] <k1l_> SolarNRG: if you dont want that search-words to be sent online dont use the online search. best to disable the online search then.
[21:16] <SolarNRG> So I am concerned
[21:16] <SolarNRG> And I want to know whether or not my privacy concerns are well founded or not
[21:17] <k1l_> SolarNRG: that is a lot of FUD.
[21:17] <silenthush> shudon, i get this: mykey.ppk: ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators
[21:17] <barfod> SolarNRG debian is a giant organization the people at its core are different than the people you meet in the lobby handing out drinks
[21:17] <silenthush> It's a password protected PPK key as well btw.
[21:17] <shudon> silenthush: huh... weird... afaik ssh only supports PEM format public keys
[21:17] <barfod> pretty sure you know who i am talking about
[21:17] <k1l_> SolarNRG: i told you 3 times now what and how to not get online results (that you call spyware)
[21:17] <shudon> silenthush: for example, here is my ssh public key: /home/hdon/.ssh/id_rsa.pub:          OpenSSH RSA public key
[21:17] <silenthush> Usually on windows I would just have Putty  installed, I open the PPK file, enter the password and just freely connect through WinSCP (or filezilla)
[21:17] <silenthush> Sec
[21:18] <k1l_> barfod: ##linux for that others OS chats, thanks
[21:18] <shudon> silenthush: if you are ABSOLUTELY sure that it's your PUBLIC key (not PRIVATE!) you can safely share it with us to help you further, but i suspect this is the wrong file.
[21:18] <silenthush> Nah I can't share that file unfortunately.
[21:18] <SolarNRG> but isn't ubuntu essentially built off debian?
[21:18] <shudon> silenthush: hmm... i wonder what the ppk format is.. i used it one time a long time ago with putty, also
[21:19] <barfod> k1l_ i think you have a misconception, debian and ubuntu work together
[21:19] <barfod> paultag for instance works on both
[21:19] <shudon> silenthush: try this: http://www.ramsmusings.com/2014/02/20/converting-a-putty-ppk-file-to-a-pem-file-for-accessing-aws-ec2-instances/
[21:19] <silenthush> Ok sec.
[21:19] <auronandace> SolarNRG: ubuntu is based on debian
[21:19] <shudon> silenthush: once you have a pem format public/private key pair, you should be able to use ssh (sftp is just ftp-like protocol tunneled inside ssh)
[21:19] <shudon> (more or less)
[21:19] <k1l_> barfod: we focus on ubuntu support in here. the rest is offtopic. like you know the rules since you were asked to read them more than once.
[21:21] <k1l_> SolarNRG: so what is the issue with a) dont use the online search labeld search if you dont want the search words to be sent online or b) disable that at all in the privacy settings?
[21:21] <SolarNRG> ok, let me backtrack, do you think debian comes bundled with spyware, rootkit, backdoor or whatever?
[21:21] <SolarNRG> I mean it's open source, so surely someone would have seen it in the source code and reported it right?
[21:21] <k1l_> SolarNRG: ubuntu doesnt come with spyware, rootkits or backdoors
[21:21] <shudon> SolarNRG: where do you live?
[21:21] <barfod> SolarNRG not really no
[21:21] <barfod> debian and ubuntu share much of the same code, i don't expect either of backdoors
[21:22] <shudon> SolarNRG: and what's your CPU?
[21:23] <auronandace> SolarNRG: you sound very paranoid and you have been told multiple times that this channel is for support issues and k1l_ has thoroughly addressed your concern
[21:23] <SolarNRG> shudon are you about to suggest what I think you're going to suggest, the OS independent "hypervisor" on all hardware?
[21:23] <shudon> :)
[21:23] <silenthush> shudon, perm key generated, do I now just upload it in the .ssh folder just like the user describes in that tutorial?
[21:23] <shudon> silenthush: well before you do that, you can test the key file
[21:23] <shudon> silenthush: ssh -i yourkeyfile user@host
[21:23] <silenthush> oh ok cool, sec.
[21:23] <barfod> k11 would you like me to end my support for ubuntu on ##linux and the other channels i frequent?
[21:24] <barfod> because i did with arch when they acted this way, and i will with you all as well
[21:25] <silenthush> I get: Permission denied (publickey).
[21:25] <shudon> silenthush: and i don't know a lot about using publickey authentication in nautilus for sftp, BUT if it uses ssh/scp underneath it all, then it will respect your ssh config, in which you can specify what username and key to use for a given host. but maybe nautilus can remember these details on its own and persist it across lost connection or reboot
[21:25] <k1l_> barfod: re read what i wrote. i never said anything like that. if you just want to make again more drama like you are know to do, then please just leave. we want to focus on technical ubuntu support in here. thanks
[21:25] <shudon> silenthush: well that sounds like the private key isn't good for the user@host you're trying to login to
[21:25] <silenthush> hmmmm
[21:25] <silenthush> Its an SFTP
[21:25] <silenthush> Should I specify it like this user@ftp.domain.com
[21:25] <silenthush> sftp.domain.com*
[21:26] <shudon> silenthush: well the hostname is not a really important thing at this step. ssh will resolve the hostname to an ip address to decide who to connect to, and then attempt to authenticate you. the error you're getting is an authentication error, not another type of error you could get (for instance if the server only wants you to use SCP but not, say, the bash shell)
[21:26] <silenthush> Oh wait it works!
[21:26] <shudon> silenthush: the hostname also matters for verifying the the identity of the remot ehost, but
[21:26] <shudon> silenthush: oh great :D
[21:26] <silenthush> Had a capital letter in my username :P
[21:26] <shudon> silenthush: heh
[21:26] <silenthush> What should I do next silenthush?
[21:27] <silenthush> I mean shudon LOL
[21:27] <shudon> silenthush: alright so, you probably know more about sftp in nautilus than i do. give it a try and if you still have problems, come back :)
[21:27] <silenthush> Oh ok, I'll give that a try now then
[21:27] <shudon> silenthush: you say you've done this before with nautilus (gnome file browser) right?
[21:27] <silenthush> Nah I've done it with FileZilla and FileZilla works too now :)
[21:27] <reborn> http://imgur.com/GDFv3lg  << any idea what's cause this?
[21:27] <shudon> silenthush: when you did it before, did you use password authentication or publickey authentication?
[21:28] <barfod> k1l_ the "please just leave" part was clear from the beginning
[21:28] <shudon> silenthush: ahhh ok
[21:28] <silenthush> Man I think I just messed up with the capital letter hahah because I had it in my FileZilla set as well like that (Facepalm)
[21:28] <shudon> silenthush: well, what i would try then
[21:28] <shudon> silenthush: is to create an ssh config file for your user on your system that's running the nautilus you want to use
[21:28] <shudon> silenthush: you should put your private key someplace safe (mkdir ~/.ssh ; chmod 700 ~/.ssh ; mv yourkey ~./ssh)
[21:29] <k1l_> barfod: since you didnt stop i muted you. if you want to talk about your entries in the bantracker and your actual mute please join #ubuntu-ops
[21:29] <shudon> silenthush: and take a look at this to see some of the things you can do with an ssh config file http://nerderati.com/2011/03/17/simplify-your-life-with-an-ssh-config-file/
[21:29] <silenthush> That is awesome Shudon, I definitely will.
[21:29] <silenthush> Thanks a bunch mate!
[21:30] <shudon> silenthush: you're welcome :)
[21:30] <shudon> bbiab
[21:38] <SolarNRG> k1l you fascist bastard, why did you ban barfod!? Is that what you do to anyone who doesn't agree with you?
[21:39] <SolarNRG> he was a highly knowledgable linux user with a lot to offer the community
[21:39] <k1l_> SolarNRG: a user that got banned in here 5 times already and is a known troll in other channels is not a reason why you call me a fasciest bastard
[21:48] <mierda> Ç?
[21:51] <Rexter> Sticks and stones fellas
[21:52] <ix> hi
[21:53] <Guest83772> v;'
[21:54] <Kaapa> hey guys. Got a weird issue here (or at least I'm interpreting this wrong). should $ nslookup `hostname` respect what I have in /etc/hosts ?
[22:13] <michele_> http://xdcc_CANCEL_X1443218689
[22:14] <k1l_> !warez | michele_
[22:20] <Bray90820_> Test
[22:20] <bazhang> !test | Bray90820_
[22:21] <Bray90820_> Thanks
[22:22] <robert__> *hi*
[22:23] <phillips1012> is there newer documentation for creating and using an ubuntu chroot using debootstrap? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot is pretty old
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> phillips1012  there's this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[22:34] <asklepian> so, I'm following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro11-3
[22:35] <asklepian> and when I run 'dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source_6.30.223.248+bdcom-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb' it tells me that the dependency 'dkms' is not installed
[22:35] <asklepian> I'd like to install the .deb file so I can get my wifi working while I'm running the live version of ubuntu
[22:37] <genii> !info dkms
[22:37] <asklepian> ok, but I'm on a mac right now
[22:37] <genii> asklepian: It's in Main, you should be able to install it
[22:37] <asklepian> oh
[22:37] <asklepian> so, it should already be installed in the live image?
[22:38] <genii> asklepian: Oh, right, offline. Any way to hook it up temporaily with an ethernet cable first?
[22:39] <asklepian> unfortunately no
[22:39] <genii> !offline
[22:39] <asklepian> does it have a lot of dependencies?
[22:39] <asklepian> I can just download it and install it manually
[22:39] <asklepian> oh nice
[22:40] <asklepian> so, is there a way to do that for my bcmwl.deb file in case there are other dependencies?
[22:41] <asklepian> or should I just worry about dkms for now
[22:41] <asklepian> ?
[22:41] <genii> asklepian: You can check requirements of a package at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[22:42] <asklepian> ok, I'll go generate that package download script and maybe that'll be enough
[22:42] <asklepian> thanks!
[22:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Somehow my problem is fixed now
[22:44] <the_count> Bashing-om: After the third or fourth restart, the cursor works as normal again
[22:44] <asklepian> also, I forgot to ask: how do I install the 'dkms_2.2.0.3-1.1ubuntu5.debian.tar.gz' file once I'm in?
[22:45] <daftykins> not sure why you would've been pointed to a tar 0o
[22:45] <asklepian> daftykins http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/dkms
[22:45] <daftykins> unless the deb is inside
[22:45] <daftykins> oh you grabbed the wrong one
[22:45] <bazhang> asklepian, get the deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[22:45] <bazhang> asklepian, NOT the tar
[22:45] <asklepian> I see a .dsc
[22:46] <asklepian> but I don't see a .deb
[22:46] <daftykins> that's 'download source'
[22:46] <daftykins> you don't want source.
[22:46] <wafflejock> asklepian: where it says architecture the link with "all" does it http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/dkms/download
[22:47] <asklepian> got it
[22:47] <asklepian> perfect
[22:47] <asklepian> now, I can do this for other packages if their needed
[22:48] <daftykins> they're, yep
[22:48] <asklepian> lol
[22:48] <asklepian> grammar
[22:48] <asklepian> I'll be back if I have other questions
[22:48] <asklepian> thanks again
[22:51] <tahr210341> Hi - what is the command associated with Alt Tab ?
[22:52] <bazhang> depends on the shell tahr210341
[22:52] <bazhang> unity or gnome-shell
[22:52] <tahr210341> bazbing80, Oh - I see.
[22:52] <tahr210341> So for unity ?
[22:53] <bazhang> gnome-shell has plugins that let you do alt tab which bring s up a coverflow type all windows in a 3d space window switcher
[22:53] <bazhang> unity no idea
[22:55] <EriC^^> tahr210341: to switch between programs
[22:55] <Yuken> So... I"d like to install Ubuntu to an SD card... but not as a live CD, rather, a full install... from within Windows 7. Is this possible at all?
[22:55] <tahr210341> EriC^^, yes.
[22:57] <jgranate> I wasn't aware you could have a persistant sd card
[22:57] <Yuken> jgranate, I am talking about installing it to an SD card like one would a hard drive, which is possible, but from within Windows.
[22:58] <Yuken> Which is probably the impossible part.
[22:58] <Yuken> Unless I get VirtualBox to see the SD card as a hard drive, maybe, and install Ubuntu from within Virtualbox.
[22:58] <Yuken> Don't know if that would work, however.
[22:59] <daftykins> Yuken: no
[22:59] <daftykins> also you'll kill the SD card :)
[22:59] <Yuken> Daaaamn it.
[22:59] <asklepian> ok, dkms installed fine
[23:00] <hetii> Hi
[23:00] <asklepian> but then we got this: http://pastebin.com/85mLHCAV
[23:00] <hetii> I just kernel 4.2.0-040200-generic #201508301530 and at dmesg I see [ 2908.456029] hfs: can't find a HFS filesystem on dev sda2
[23:00] <hetii> [ 2915.619159] EXT4-fs (sda2): unable to read superblock
[23:00] <hetii> [ 2915.648331] XFS (sda2): Invalid superblock magic number
[23:00] <asklepian> and here's the make.log file: http://pastebin.com/yF67XPpq
[23:00] <daftykins> hetii: no pasting
[23:01] <daftykins> !paste | hetii
[23:01] <hetii> sure
[23:01] <hetii> not more then 3 line.
[23:01] <hetii> so should I worry about those message?
[23:01] <daftykins> hetii: well first off you're in the wrong place, 15.10 is in #ubuntu+1 - second, you're trying to mount HFS? why?
[23:02] <daftykins> actually don't answer second, because you're in the wrong channel :)
[23:03] <hetii> daftykins:  #ubuntu+1 ? never head about that #, No I don`t try mount anything: http://pastebin.ca/3174029
[23:04] <asklepian> anyone? anyone?
[23:04] <daftykins> be patient
[23:06] <nicomachus> asklepian: I just joined so missed the first part of your question. What version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:06] <kaizokujoe> Hi, I was hoping to get some help with a small problem I'm having.
[23:06] <asklepian> nicomachus I'm live booting the 'ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso'
[23:06] <daftykins> kaizokujoe: as soon as you detail it, someone can begin
[23:06] <asklepian> and trying to install on a MBP 11,3
[23:07] <asklepian> I'd like to get wifi up and running so I can fix stuff on the fly during the install
[23:07] <kaizokujoe> Well, I have quite a bit of experience with ubuntu from before but I'm having a stupid problem at the moment.
[23:07] <asklepian> to do that I need 'bcmwl-kernel-source_6.30.223.248+bdcom-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb' installed
[23:07] <kaizokujoe> I'm trying to set up a VM running Ubuntu for a friend.
[23:07] <asklepian> dkms was one of its dependencies
[23:07] <asklepian> that's where you came in
[23:07] <daftykins> asklepian: can't you just set it all up on wired first?
[23:07] <daftykins> far less effort believe me.
[23:07] <asklepian> no wired
[23:07] <asklepian> not ethernet port
[23:08] <asklepian> no*
[23:08] <kaizokujoe> I installed SSH and set up port forwarding and such. I can connect but when I connect over the internet it won't let the user login
[23:08] <daftykins> oh yes, overpriced mac
[23:08] <daftykins> :>
[23:08] <asklepian> lol
[23:08] <nicomachus> lol
[23:08] <daftykins> kaizokujoe: define "won't let"
[23:08] <asklepian> I'm still hunting for a 1TB PCIe SSD in a thin laptop
[23:08] <kaizokujoe> It says access denied, though when I connect over the local network it does it just fine.
[23:08] <hetii> as far as I see some modules like qnx4, nfs, hfsplus andy many more are loaded
[23:09] <asklepian> once I find that I can give up this baby
[23:09] <nicomachus> hetii: you really need to be on #ubuntu+1, as you've been told.
[23:09] <daftykins> kaizokujoe: are you trying to use root which you've horribly created a password for?
[23:09] <kaizokujoe> Nope
[23:09] <daftykins> what user then?
[23:10] <kaizokujoe> A secondary user I've made for the friend.
[23:10] <daftykins> i suggest you have a browse of auth.log and see what's up
[23:10] <daftykins> i suspect it's locked out
[23:10] <hetii> nicomachus: ok
[23:11] <asklepian> do I have to install an older version of dkms? 'ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic is not supported'
[23:12] <nicomachus> asklepian: this may be helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/470153/no-wireless-when-install-14-04-on-macbook-pro
[23:12] <asklepian> nicomachus thanks, but I'm on an 11,3 and following these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro11-3
[23:14] <kaizokujoe> I don't get anything useful from the log as far as I can see.
[23:14] <kaizokujoe> Well, something seems weird but not sure.
[23:14] <daftykins> the problem is you're not actually using trusty per sé, but 14.04 with the vivid kernel
[23:14] <kaizokujoe> Pastebin the standard still?
[23:15] <daftykins> paste.ubuntu.com is
[23:15] <nicomachus> so much cleaner and neater than pastebin...
[23:16] <daftykins> +1
[23:16] <kaizokujoe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12562893/
[23:17] <TheGoldenAngel>       My Official Channel : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpW7RV72BJzs7OTSgBEmZCQ/videos
[23:18] <daftykins> kaizokujoe: you need a slice from when your pal is trying to test connect
[23:18] <kaizokujoe> That's all that's in the auth file
[23:18] <kaizokujoe> Just repeats those same lines and I think those are just from me checking the file.
[23:19] <daftykins> kaizokujoe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring#Log_More_Information
[23:19] <asklepian> are libc6-dev and linux-libc-dev installed by default?
[23:20] <daftykins> why don't you run "dpkg -l | grep <those>" to check?
[23:20] <asklepian> because I'm not booted into ubuntu
[23:21] <daftykins> ok well PM ubottu and type !info <package>
[23:24] <TheGoldenAngel>       My Official CAM GIRL Channel with skype contact : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpW7RV72BJzs7OTSgBEmZCQ/videos
[23:25] <daftykins> i sure hope they run ubuntu.
[23:25] <nicomachus> lol
[23:26] <kaizokujoe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12563154/
[23:26] <kaizokujoe> There
[23:28] <asklepian> ok, so I tried installing them and it didn't fix anything
[23:28] <asklepian> I got the same error
[23:29] <asklepian> so, how do I get around the fact that 'kernel package linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic is not supported'
[23:29] <asklepian> ?
[23:30] <daftykins> i'd reinstall with 14.04.1 media if i were you
[23:30] <asklepian> even though, oddly, 'linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic' is listed as a dependency on: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic
[23:30] <daftykins> might work ok with the default intended 3.13 kernel
[23:31] <kaizokujoe> Any ideas for the SSH?
[23:31] <daftykins> kaizokujoe: hmm only a guess but check which groups your pals account is a member of versus yours
[23:32] <kaizokujoe> He's in the sudo group only afaik.
[23:32] <daftykins> doubt it
[23:32] <daftykins> check means check
[23:32] <kaizokujoe> Thing is, the user connects and auths fine over local network.
[23:32] <kaizokujoe> Just not over the internet, even though it's the same username and password.
[23:33] <kaizokujoe> Yup, just sudo
[23:33] <daftykins> mmm, restarted since?
[23:33] <asklepian> daftykins where do I find the .torrent file for that?
[23:33] <kaizokujoe> Yup I have.
[23:33] <daftykins> old-releases.ubuntu.com
[23:34] <nicomachus> hey kaizokujoe: what's your ssh command look like?
[23:34] <nicomachus> without addresses, of course. but what's the format?
[23:35] <daftykins> lol, ssh user@host? :P
[23:35] <nicomachus> I spent ~an hour one day trying to figure out a similar issue to this, and I was typing the hostname instead of the username.
[23:36] <nicomachus> you never know... it would give that error
[23:36] <kaizokujoe> Well, I'm using putty but it's basically the equivalent of ssh HOSTNAMEHERE
[23:36] <asklepian> kaizokujoe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkcEB96iMFk&index=14&list=PL6gx4Cwl9DGCkg2uj3PxUWhMDuTw3VKjM
[23:37] <daftykins> actually - sudo:    makke : TTY=tty1 ; PWD=/home/makke ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/joe /var/log/auth.log
[23:37] <daftykins> o0
[23:37] <daftykins> that almost suggests someone logging in as root
[23:37] <daftykins> think that's just local sudo use actually
[23:38] <kaizokujoe> Yeah it's what I reacted to as well when I said something looked funky..
[23:39] <kaizokujoe> That's from me using sudo joe /var/log/auth.log
[23:40] <daftykins> but that's not even a command
[23:40] <daftykins> be better if you could make the log section relevant to just the test connection
[23:41] <asklepian> kaizokujoe also, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5UBtE1UqYg&index=28&list=PL6gx4Cwl9DGBpuvPW0aHa7mKdn_k9SPKO
[23:41] <daftykins> why on earth would you link to video o0
[23:41] <kaizokujoe> I know how to do both those things..
[23:42] <asklepian> whatev, trying to help
[23:42] <asklepian> I'll stop
[23:42] <asklepian> lol
[23:44] <kaizokujoe> I appreciate the attempt to helping but it's not the first time I'm doing this.
[23:44] <daftykins> the format of the logs begged to differ ;)
[23:45] <kaizokujoe> How so?
[23:45] <daftykins> well as i said it would've been more useful just having the specific portion relevant to the test login being made
[23:45] <daftykins> see whether your pal has any logs too
[23:46] <kaizokujoe> He isn't trying to log in, it's me trying to log in using that user before giving him the login.
[23:46] <kaizokujoe> Putty doesn't keep logs afaik.
[23:46] <daftykins> so you're using the external IP but internally?
[23:47] <kaizokujoe> I'm using the domain name to connect to it externally.
[23:48] <daftykins> but from *inside* on the LAN?
[23:48] <kaizokujoe> Yup.
[23:48] <kaizokujoe> Though
[23:48] <daftykins> ugh not a lot of routers allow that =| you lied in your original explanation :(
[23:48] <kaizokujoe> Well, I didn't lie. I was mearly telling you what I thought would be enough for you to understand.
[23:48] <daftykins> also forget domains, try the public IP
[23:49] <kaizokujoe> Did that too
[23:49] <kaizokujoe> It was the second thing I tried.
[23:49] <daftykins> well no, you made it out like you were testing from the other place remotely
[23:49] <daftykins> alright so test properly now :)
[23:50] <kaizokujoe> Properly being what?
[23:50] <daftykins> from a remote host over the internet
[23:51] <kaizokujoe> I don't HAVE a remote host to connect from.
[23:51] <kaizokujoe> Need to hit up some friends for shells on their boxes for this kind of thing :p
[23:51] <daftykins> or just ask the friend to test connect
[23:51] <kaizokujoe> My last router had no issue with these kind of things.
[23:52] <daftykins> come to me with solutions, not problems :>
[23:52] <daftykins> uh huh, well things change
[23:52] <kaizokujoe> He isn't awake anymore, it's 2 in the morning here.
[23:52] <daftykins> again, none of these details concern me
[23:52] <daftykins> there are some out there that don't even allow a locally hosted web server to be reachable internally
[23:53] <kaizokujoe> And I'm not telling you because it concerns you, it was mearly idle chatter.
[23:53] <daftykins> i don't think you quite understand the sentiment there
[23:53] <daftykins> essentially i'm pointing out that i don't need to know the details, you know what to do... get it done
[23:54] <kaizokujoe> Yeah and as i said, those things are more for the sake of conversation then to further the problem solving of the issue.
[23:54] <OerHeks> sounds like 'login intranet-at-work-while-not-at-work'
[23:54] <daftykins> spare me :)
[23:55] <daftykins> OerHeks: ooh dear i hope not
[23:57] <kaizokujoe> Well, since it seems idle chatter is not appreciated here and I'm done testing it for today I'll be heading off.
[23:57] <daftykins> aww diddums