| puff | What's the feeling on nvidia proprietary drivers, these days? | 00:33 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | feeling? | 00:33 |
| knome | i can't quite... grasp it | 00:34 |
| puff | knome: Do people recommend using them, or recommend against using them, etc. | 00:34 |
| puff | What is the general consensus on recommended use or non-use of nvidia proprietary drivers? | 00:34 |
| knome | if you are happy with the open source drivers and everything is working, then use them | 00:34 |
| knome | if you need something from the proprietary drivers, or they fix bugs or give you a better performance, then use them | 00:35 |
| puff | Yeah, I guess it's worth checking out, then. | 00:35 |
| puff | Backin abit. | 00:35 |
| puff | Well, that was no fun. | 00:48 |
| puff | So it looks like the nvidia drivers broke my system. | 00:48 |
| knome | in that case i would *drumroll* advice against using them | 00:49 |
| puff | I get the xubuntu blue splash page or login screen for a fraction of a second, then the screen goes dark. | 00:49 |
| puff | knome: You're a big help :-). | 00:49 |
| puff | So the question is, now that I can't see my screen in xubuntu, how do I remove the nvidia drivers? | 00:49 |
| knome | well, it really is that simple... they work for some (for example, me), not for others | 00:49 |
| Unit193 | You get the splash? Usually means not nvidia drivers. | 00:49 |
| puff | I'm booting into an old (shudder) centos partition at the moment. | 00:49 |
| puff | I get a glimpse of a blue screen. | 00:49 |
| puff | Looks like the splash screen. | 00:49 |
| Unit193 | Append 'text' purge drivers from ttys. | 00:50 |
| puff | Unit193: Come again? | 00:50 |
| puff | Hello? | 00:52 |
| Unit193 | hello. | 00:53 |
| puff | Unit193: Can you clarify what you were trying to say, when you said: Append 'text' purge drivers from ttys. | 00:53 |
| Unit193 | At the grub prompt, edit the line where it says 'quiet splash' and replace that with 'text', it'll drop you to a tty. Then, after logging in, remove the nvidia drivers and reboot/start lightdm. | 00:54 |
| puff | Ah, thanks. | 00:55 |
| Unit193 | !nox | 00:55 |
| ubottu | To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode | 00:55 |
| puff | I'll try that. Bsack in a sec. | 00:55 |
| Unit193 | G'luck. | 00:55 |
| puff | Thanks. | 00:55 |
| puff | Okay, I'm in a tty now. | 01:00 |
| puff | Hm, it looks liek I have bumblebee-invidia. | 01:01 |
| knome | the bumblebee-stuff can be problematic, and in some cases, that's a harsh underestimation | 01:03 |
| puff | I don't remember installnig bumblebee, I'm surprised that ubuntu software center installed bumblebee when I selected nvidia proprietary drivers. | 01:03 |
| knome | if you have a GPU with both intel and nvidia parts, it's bumblebee | 01:04 |
| puff | As far as I can recall, I never did anything fancy with the drivers prior to today. | 01:04 |
| puff | Yeah, I have a thinkpad t520 with optimus. | 01:04 |
| puff | For my sins. | 01:04 |
| puff | so I guess I just purge bumblebee-nvidia. | 01:05 |
| knome | captain obvious to the rescue, but simply don't use them then | 01:05 |
| knome | and hope the open source drivers offer you a reasonably good experience | 01:05 |
| puff | knome: Yeah, at this point I'm just trying to undo this cleanly. | 01:06 |
| puff | knome: So if you have advice on how to do that... | 01:06 |
| puff | Looks like it purged bumblebee-nvidia without complication.s | 01:06 |
| puff | I guess I reboot and pray, now. | 01:06 |
| knome | :) | 01:06 |
| puff | Dammit. | 01:10 |
| puff | Okay, so I got the blue screen, xubuntu logo/name and spinning semi-circle both when I shutdown and when I rebooted. | 01:10 |
| puff | but then black screen. | 01:10 |
| bazhang | !crosspost | puff | 01:12 |
| ubottu | puff: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. | 01:12 |
| puff | Okay, here goes again. Back in a sec. | 01:19 |
| puff | Okay, that worked. | 01:22 |
| puff | I did sudo aptitude remove bbswitch-dkms bumblebee libcuda1-304 nvidia-304 nvidia-346 nvidia-libopencl1-304 nvidia-opencl-icd-304 nvidia-settings nvidia-settings-304 primus | 01:22 |
| puff | i.e. "sudo dpkg -l | fgrep -i nvidia" and added all of those packages to the aptitude remove line. | 01:23 |
| puff | I'm not even sure what the heck I was trying to fix by trying out nvidia. It's been a long day. | 01:23 |
| eurodance | how do I use F5 to refresh browser | 05:17 |
| holstein | eurodance: you press the f5 key, and, that refreshes the browser page | 05:18 |
| eurodance | nope | 05:18 |
| eurodance | it brings up display | 05:18 |
| holstein | eurodance: likely, you are not pressing the keys necessary to actually initiate the function keys.. on my keyboard, i actually press a "fn" key.. a modifier, like shift for caps.. | 05:20 |
| cfhowlett | eurodance, what browser and what are you keyboard settings? | 05:20 |
| eurodance | firefox | 05:20 |
| cfhowlett | and your keyboard layout?? | 05:21 |
| eurodance | uh | 05:21 |
| eurodance | qwert | 05:21 |
| cfhowlett | eurodance, keyboard model? language?? | 05:22 |
| eurodance | english | 05:22 |
| eurodance | compact laptop keyboard | 05:22 |
| holstein | what laptop, is the question | 05:22 |
| holstein | anyways, im sure you will find you have a key to press that will switch the function of the keys, such as on my keyboard.. have you tried it? do you have a function key? | 05:23 |
| xubuntu75w | hello, I am french and I research the way to change my operating system xubuntu 32 bits to a version xubuntu 64 bits, on line | 06:19 |
| cfhowlett | xubuntu75w, can 't be done. you must install 64 bit. | 06:19 |
| xubuntu75w | there is no solution to install an operating system xubuntu 64 bits without an external support | 06:21 |
| cfhowlett | xubuntu75w, you cannot convert 32 >> 64. if you want 64, you must install. | 06:21 |
| xubuntu75w | other question, is it possible to install grub2 on a disk operating | 06:22 |
| xubuntu75w | thank you for the answers, good morning | 06:26 |
| xubuntu75w | exit | 06:27 |
| cfhowlett | happy2help! | 06:27 |
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| Exo_ | Hello, I have installed xubuntu 15.04 three times onto a Dell Mini 10 netbook and so far have not been able to get the network to work. Troubleshooting: Plugged cable into another Ubuntu desktop pc and confirmed network was coming through fine. I can't update it either. | 12:27 |
| Exo_ | Ran ethtol -S on eth0 (<<newbie sorry) and got 0's on most items. | 12:28 |
| Exo_ | ethtool* | 12:28 |
| cfhowlett | exo try lubuntu. it's optimized for legacy hardware. | 12:28 |
| Exo_ | ok, can I get an installer that will overlay on the core what I already installed? | 12:29 |
| Exo_ | However, I am already running xubuntu 15.04 on another identical Mini, and it installed / worked / networked instantly and with no errors. | 12:29 |
| Exo_ | So the difference must be something I can identify. | 12:29 |
| cfhowlett | sudo apt install -s lubuntu-desktop will display the incoming packages. same command without -s will execute | 12:29 |
| Exo_ | that command requires a working network, though, | 12:30 |
| xubuntu327 | help | 12:30 |
| cfhowlett | doh! right. sorry | 12:30 |
| cfhowlett | !help | xubuntu327 | 12:30 |
| ubottu | xubuntu327: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 12:30 |
| Exo_ | anyway, I could not find much help on the Web for checking the settings in the Network Connections dialog box, when editing the automatically-generated Wired Connection 1. | 12:32 |
| xubuntu327 | lost a top toolbar, contained frequently used sites...can i get it back....new w/linux | 12:32 |
| Exo_ | Is there a way I can check those settings against a standard / best option? | 12:32 |
| cfhowlett | Exo_, bring this to #ubuntu ... more eyes | 12:33 |
| Exo_ | Thank you. | 12:33 |
| flocculant | Exo_: just fyi - eth0 is likely called something else now - check ifconfig | 12:34 |
| xubuntu327 | anybody? | 12:34 |
| flocculant | Exo_: or not - possibly I'm looking at wily ... | 12:34 |
| flocculant | xubuntu327: in a browser do you mean? | 12:35 |
| Exo_ | well it says similar to the oother info - rx packts 849 errors | 12:35 |
| Exo_ | no collisions though, | 12:36 |
| Exo_ | so this is probably not a case of another IP on the LAn same aaddress | 12:36 |
| xubuntu327 | yes | 12:36 |
| flocculant | assuming firefox - https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/restore-bookmarks-from-backup-or-move-them#w_restoring-from-backups | 12:36 |
| xubuntu327 | nope...google | 12:37 |
| Exo_ | x327: chromium? | 12:38 |
| xubuntu327 | yes | 12:38 |
| flocculant | I'd guess that much like anything - if you've not backed them up - or possibly synced them (not sure, don't use chrom*) then I would suspect they're gone | 12:40 |
| Exo_ | x327 this is a operating system help forum, please visit the Chromium help website or just press F1 for help in Chromium | 12:41 |
| xubuntu327 | thanks guys...great site | 12:42 |
| flocculant | xubuntu327: well - if you've not backed things up - we're not going to be able to help find them | 12:42 |
| cfhowlett | sad but true ^^^ | 12:43 |
| flocculant | but I would check the chrome configs - see if there is something there | 12:44 |
| xubuntu327 | i wasn.t being facetious......you have been very helpful | 12:44 |
| flocculant | xubuntu327: go to .config - have a look - I do have chromium installed - just don't use it | 12:45 |
| flocculant | I have Bookmarks and Bookmarks.bak | 12:45 |
| flocculant | if you've similar - rename Bookmarks to Bookmarks.something and rename Bookmarks.bak to Bookmarks | 12:46 |
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| mozart_ | Gimp crashes immediately when use text tool.Open a document and select the text tool. When I use the tool gimp crash. I use Xubuntu 14.04.3 and have gimp 2.8.10 installed. I've tried the 2.8.14 version of the Otto PPA, but the same thing happens. I need to solve this and found nothing about it until now. For months I have this problem here. I reinstalled xubuntu and continues. In the terminal it appears that after the gimp crashes: | 17:53 |
| mozart_ | (script-fu: 4167): WARNING ** LibGimpBase-: script-fu: gimp_wire_read (): error | 17:53 |
| mozart_ | Segmentation fault (core image recorded) Please can anyone help? | 17:53 |
| mozart_ | Sorry for my English. It is not my native language. I'm from Brazil. It is also the first time I am using this chat. | 17:53 |
| completelylost | can someone help me regarding geany? | 17:53 |
| completelylost | I'm running xubuntu 14.04 and everytime I try to compile and execute a c++ program, I just get an error | 17:54 |
| drc | !br | mozart_ If you would feel more comportable. | 17:54 |
| ubottu | mozart_ If you would feel more comportable.: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada. | 17:54 |
| mozart_ | thanks! | 17:54 |
| drc | mozart_: Not trying to push you away... :) | 17:55 |
| completelylost | someone? :( | 17:55 |
| drc | completelylost: You'd probably have more luck on #geany | 17:56 |
| completelylost | thanks! :D | 17:56 |
| completelylost | no one seems to be in there :( | 17:59 |
| completelylost | I really need to get this project done, windows screwed me over and deleted almost all my files with their stupid update. I can't recover them by any means so I switched over to linux hoping to not experience the same thing again | 18:00 |
| drc | completelylost: There are 39 users listed in that channel. I'd advise asking you question and then having patience...not everyone (and evey channel) spends all day online :) | 18:01 |
| completelylost | sorry for that, :( been trying to search answers for days and now im pretty desperate on finding an answer | 18:02 |
| drc | Everyone here is a volunteer and thus has some form of Real life :) | 18:02 |
| drc | TBH, If you have been searching for a while and can't find an answer, my best advice would be to ask in #geany and just wait. | 18:03 |
| drc | There are also several C++ channels on freenode that might have an answer. | 18:05 |
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| * m3n3chm0 nasZ | 19:18 | |
| sorinello | Hello. Does xubuntu support OOB extended displays ? It seems I connect my external display, but it works as a mirror. I am unable to change it to extended | 21:21 |
| mrkramps | sorinello, settings → display | 21:23 |
| genii | sorinello: If this is on a laptop, check what key combination cycles through monitor possibilities like laptopscreen only/external only/mirrored/both | 21:23 |
| mrkramps | http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/display | 21:24 |
| sorinello | mrkramps, yes, there I am. But the option to Mirror display is UNchecked and grayed out. even if it is unchecked, I still got mirror mode | 21:24 |
| genii | Usually FN-F5 on Acer, other laptops might be different. | 21:24 |
| sorinello | thanks for the help guys, I'll try it | 21:25 |
| tnk | Hi everyone - is there somene who could help me with bit of a weird problem with key mappings ? | 21:37 |
| mrkramps | tnk, ask a question | 21:37 |
| tnk | ok I am missing the delete key on my keyboard | 21:38 |
| tnk | so I vanted to map rm -r on al+bckspace | 21:38 |
| tnk | bot is seems to do nothing despite me trying various combinations | 21:38 |
| tnk | so I guess my question is if this is even possible | 21:39 |
| knome | the way you describe it sounds a bit werid | 21:40 |
| knome | *weird | 21:40 |
| knome | rm -r to alt+backspace? | 21:40 |
| tnk | yes | 21:40 |
| knome | in what context? | 21:40 |
| tnk | well I just want it to work as delete button in the GUI | 21:41 |
| knome | you'll want to edit the Xmodmap | 21:41 |
| knome | but forget the "rm -r" part... | 21:41 |
| tnk | ok | 21:41 |
| knome | you'll just want to bind that key combo to the virtual delete key | 21:42 |
| tnk | yes | 21:42 |
| tnk | I'll have a look into the xmodmap - thanks | 21:42 |
| tnk | this keyboard is really troublesome | 21:43 |
| tnk | I have one more weird problem with this keyboard - it has no Function keys and it has multimedia keys instead | 21:44 |
| tnk | the installation resulted in mapping these all as function keys | 21:45 |
| tnk | but I can't find out how to assign them the original multimedia function | 21:45 |
| tnk | would that be also something in xmodmap ? | 21:45 |
| drc | Probably...I use exaile and use Xmodmap to map the precise exaile function to appropriate key, and then add to Settings->Keyboard. | 21:48 |
| tnk | ok I'll have a look into that thanks | 21:49 |
| drc | For example: keycode 173 = XF86AudioPrev keycode 174 = XF86AudioStop keycode 172 = XF86AudioPlay and keycode 171 = XF86AudioNext are in my .Xmodmap. | 21:49 |
| tnk | thanks drc that is very helpful | 21:50 |
| drc | And then in Settings->Keyboard I add the exaile specific stuff i.e., exaile -n to XF86AudioNext. | 21:51 |
| drc | There is a way to fnd out what keycode a particular key has, but I've forgotten it...google is your friend. | 21:52 |
| tnk | I think L've found that one - it seems to be something called xev | 21:52 |
| drc | All that should start you down the right path. | 21:53 |
| tnk | the one thing I am bit unclear on is that xfce uses various GUIs for the actions I want to do (e.g. xfce4-power-manager for brightness) | 21:53 |
| tnk | but they have no cli parameters | 21:54 |
| drc | Beyond my paygrade... : | 21:54 |
| tnk | but I guess with the xmodmap I can bind the keys to the virtual media keys | 21:54 |
| tnk | haha no problem thanks for the help | 21:55 |
| Pwnna | is 15.10's default background greyish? | 21:56 |
| Pwnna | instead of the blue that we are used to seeing? | 21:56 |
| drc | Daily, yes B2 No | 21:57 |
| drc | Or Daily yes, release no would be a better way of saying it. | 21:57 |
| Pwnna | also | 21:58 |
| Pwnna | i found a bug | 21:58 |
| Pwnna | "bug" | 21:58 |
| Pwnna | https://imgur.com/TyzTqjO | 21:58 |
| Pwnna | install "Xubuntu 15.04!" | 21:59 |
| Pwnna | should change that :) | 21:59 |
| knome | Pwnna, which daily are you using? | 21:59 |
| Pwnna | beta2 | 21:59 |
| Pwnna | or final beta | 21:59 |
| Pwnna | is it fixed in daily? | 21:59 |
| Pwnna | knome, ^ | 22:01 |
| drc | Pwnna: You are using 15.10b2 AND getting a "greyish default background"? | 22:01 |
| Pwnna | is b2 the final beta? | 22:01 |
| Pwnna | oh wtf | 22:01 |
| drc | yes )hopefully :) | 22:01 |
| Pwnna | i downloaded b1 | 22:01 |
| Pwnna | >__> | 22:01 |
| Pwnna | can i just apt-get upgrade my way to b2? | 22:02 |
| flocculant | well | 22:02 |
| Pwnna | i mean yes you can but are there any issues with the update process or something | 22:02 |
| flocculant | personally the alphas/betas are all just snapshots and quite frankly - you should just daily | 22:03 |
| Pwnna | i suppose | 22:03 |
| knome | well that tells a lot... | 22:03 |
| Pwnna | when you apt-get upgrade it just goes to daily, right? | 22:03 |
| Pwnna | sorry guys | 22:03 |
| flocculant | yea - though might need dist-upgrade | 22:03 |
| flocculant | Pwnna: apt-get upgrade ANY milestone will make it a daily | 22:08 |
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