[00:00] <giltibobcat> ok I will cheack all that out thank you for the lead
[00:08] <jgranate> I am running KDE 5.3.2 and I can't seem to be able to resume from suspend after loading nvidia proprietary drivers (All I get is my black backlit screen). Googling reveals that this was an issue about a year ago but solved with new kernal.. I am fairly new to kubuntu and was wondering what log files I could look at to diagnose the problem.
[00:11] <keithzg> jgranate: if you look in /var/log, you should see some Xorg logs, that'd be the place to start.
[00:12] <jgranate> thank you
[00:13] <keithzg> Alternatively, since we live in a systemd world now, "journalctl -e _COMM=Xorg" should get you an output (I think Ubuntu 15.04 still tosses out Xorg logs in text format, though? I forget, I'm at work right now and we're sticking with 14.04 LTS for the time being)
[00:15] <jgranate> Yeah, I'm digging into the Xorg file for /var/log now.. I appreciate the help
[01:01] <bwins> anyone have trouble starting the plama desktop after updates on Kubuntu 15.10?
[01:01] <TJ-> bwins: long delays; desktop sometimes not appearing?
[01:02] <bwins> TJ-> correct, desktop not appearing after login
[01:03] <TJ-> bwins: not sure of the cause but I've seen several people report it; I got rid of the long delay by removing all th e background metadata search processes (akonadi etc)
[01:03] <bwins> was it a particular package? started fine before updates
[01:04] <TJ-> I don't know I've avoided installed the latest packages from -proposed
[01:05] <bwins> can i remove proposed packages?
[01:05] <bwins> I can ctrl/alt F2 to a command prompt just fine
[01:07] <TJ-> bwins: check obvious things like ownership of ~/.Xauthority first, also, check ~/.xsession-errors for clues
[01:08] <bwins> TJ-: thanks, I'll go poke around there and get back and let you know the results
[02:55] <Guest66895> at boot time several networkmanager scripts scripts start but they have no time limit which results in networkmanager trying to start services endlessly and consequently the boot process  does not continues. where do i set limits to networkmanager scripts?
[03:07] <Guest66895> at boot time several networkmanager scripts scripts start but they have no time limit which results in networkmanager trying to start services endlessly and consequently the boot process  does not continue. where do i set limits to networkmanager scripts?
[03:14] <TJ-> What scripts are these?
[03:21] <Guest66895> i have no idea tbh. the feedback i get is something along this line: "waiting for networkmanager job. no limit set ". this happened when nm tried to bring up an interface but it has happened before with an unidentified service, maybe vpn or else. i know i've seen networkmanager limited to 60 seconds before and i'd like to know where this limit has gone on my system and how i can change it
[03:21] <Guest66895> i have checked the files under /etc/networkmanager but can't find anything useful
[03:22] <Guest66895> is it maybe a systemd thing?
[03:24] <TJ-> Yes, those messages are from systemd
[03:25] <TJ-> check its log with "sudo journalctl", possibly look at "/var/log/boot.log"
[03:30] <Guest66895> Failed to get D-Bus connection: Operation not permitted
[03:31] <Guest66895> that's the info for when ssh-server is supposed to start and also when the interface should be brought up
[03:32] <Guest66895> journalctl is empty
[03:37] <TJ-> what version of Ubuntu is it?
[03:39] <Guest66895> i've had the last stable until yesterday then did a release-upgrade to the beta1 which did not go too well.
[03:40] <Guest66895> i've been trying to repair that system since
[03:42] <TJ-> OK, with 15.10 systemd's journalctl should show the system log.
[03:58] <Guest68501> i found, after the relase-upgrade systemd-services is not installed
[04:02] <ahoneybun> Guest68501: upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10?
[04:02] <Guest68501> yes
[04:03] <Guest68501> apt marks it as configured yet not installed and i can't install it from the chroot environment i'm in now
[04:04] <ahoneybun> so your in a live environment now?
[04:05] <Guest68501> yes, i had to boot a live kubuntu
[04:06] <ahoneybun> mm
[04:06] <ahoneybun> I've had good luck with release-upgrade recently...
[04:07] <ahoneybun> Guest68501: can you not just use tty with the local system ?
[04:07] <Guest68501> here's the output of aptitude search systemd: http://pastebin.com/9c1urfxu
[04:07] <Guest68501> i have no tty
[04:08] <Guest68501> i cannopt login to this system at all
[04:08] <ahoneybun> oh
[04:08] <Guest68501> ^^
[04:08] <ahoneybun> I'm not that used to systemd at all really
[04:09] <ahoneybun> never was used to upstart either tbh
[04:09] <Guest68501> i'ma  bit concerned about this line:
[04:09] <Guest68501> c   libsystemd-login0               - systemd login utility library
[04:09] <Guest68501> it's not installed, and can't install it
[04:12] <ahoneybun> that is worring
[04:12] <ahoneybun> systemd was in 15.04 so it should just have a version jump
[04:13] <Guest68501> i'm not 100% sure but i think i have upgrade to 15.04 from 14.10 or prior, too
[04:13] <ahoneybun> that will break it for sure
[04:13] <ahoneybun> we do not advise upgrading from 14.10 to 15.04
[04:13] <ahoneybun> to many changes
[04:13] <ahoneybun> *too
[04:14] <ahoneybun> upstart to systemd for one
[04:14] <Guest68501> so, there i am with a broken system trying to find a way out
[04:15] <ahoneybun> I'm not sure of a way to fix it all
[04:15] <ahoneybun> best way might be to backup everything and do a fresh install
[04:15] <Guest68501> i can't access my /home
[04:16] <Guest68501> if it was that easy i would have done it already
[04:17] <Guest68501> this is more of a delicate problem, that's why i'm here
[04:20] <Guest68501> i'd even be fine with downgrading to upstart but i have never done this
[04:21] <Guest68501> i need to find a way to access my files in /home which seem to be encrypted
[04:22] <Guest68501> I get this error: ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[04:30] <ahoneybun> mm
[04:34] <Guest68501> i'll reboot, be back in a few minutes
[04:42] <kubuntu_> back
[04:42] <kubuntu_> failed_upgrade here
[04:43] <kubuntu_> So, the plan is now to downgrade to 15.04 or prior
[04:43] <kubuntu_> has anyone here ever done this ?
[04:44] <kubuntu_> is there an official downgrade path?
[04:44] <kubuntu_> any documentation or experiences?
[06:17] <valorie> kubuntu_: no, there is no downgrade option
[06:17] <valorie> I've had a failed upgrade before that I fixed
[06:17] <valorie> and one that I failed to fix
[06:18] <valorie> the magic commands are `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[06:18] <valorie> `sudo apt install -f` (finish)
[06:19] <valorie> `sudo dpkg --reconfigure`
[06:20] <muhammad> hi
[06:20] <Guest390> Hi there
[06:20] <Guest390> can anyone help me right now
[06:21] <valorie> if all those fail with no output, then your best option is to reinstall
[06:21] <valorie> Guest390: help with what?
[06:21] <Guest390> how to install FB messenger? im using 15.10
[06:22] <valorie> facebook messenger?
[06:22] <Guest390> yes
[06:22] <valorie> it's part of the webpage
[06:22] <valorie> there is nothing to install
[06:22] <valorie> and they have withdrawn the API that used to let other clients access those chats
[06:22] <Guest390> valorie; but i saw some thread on the net
[06:23] <valorie> such as Kopete and KDE-telepathy
[06:23] <Guest390> samone says it is possible
[06:23] <valorie> used to be, yes
[06:23] <valorie> they have removed that possibility
[06:23] <Guest390> i see
[06:23] <Guest390> valorie: thanks for the info
[06:23] <valorie> yw
[06:24] <valorie> sorry to be the bearer of bad news
[06:24] <Guest390> valorie: lol
[06:56] <svend-ev> Good morning
[06:57] <cOgnaut> Good middle-of-the-night
[08:51] <troia> Hi
[09:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:40] <MoonUnit`> morning
[10:17] <aa481> Hello I'm having difficulty getting broadcom to work on my system, the live version, i'm able to install it using the driver manager but the installed one says no proprietary drivers in needed
[10:18] <aa481> I'm on windows now since internet wont work on kubuntu
[10:18] <aa481> any help?
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:17] <winfr34k> Hello guys
[12:17] <winfr34k> I'm currently trying out Kubuntu and it's fantastic
[12:17] <winfr34k> great work. keep it up!
[12:22] <jubo2> Hiya
[12:22] <jubo2> And thanks for the best looking, best feeling out-of-the-box GNU/Linukka I have ever seen ( Kubuntu15.04 )
[12:24] <soee> jubo2: cool :) 15.10 will be released soon and it will be even better ;-)
[12:24] <BluesKaj> soee,  I beg to differ, too many features aren't working or have been dropped in both 15.04 aqnd 15.10
[12:25] <MoonUnit`> and screen rotation that works in 15.04 is broken in 15.10 on my radeon card.
[12:26] <BluesKaj> change for change's sake isn't progress
[12:30] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, cube animation?
[12:30] <MoonUnit`> xrandr --rotate left
[12:31] <MoonUnit`> corrupt screen but mouse cursor still works.
[12:31] <BluesKaj> use OpenGL
[12:34] <MoonUnit`> i'll check that next time i boot it.
[12:36] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`,  I was thinking of xrender, not xrandr which is a diiferent setting altogether
[12:40] <MoonUnit`> arch is using Xorg 1.17.2 same as 15.10 but rotation works, made a bug report on launchpad but he wants me to upgrade my motherboard bios which sounds silly to me as it's working fine on windows, trusty, vivid and arch.
[12:40] <lordievader> MoonUnit`: Were you using fglrx?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> jubo2,  dunno why you bring this problem to us anyway, seems like you just do what you want.
[12:41] <lordievader> MoonUnit`: Ask why they want you to do that.
[12:41] <MoonUnit`> nah open source radeonsi
[12:41] <lordievader> MoonUnit`: Hmm, same kernels on Kubuntu and Arch (with the same config?)
[12:42] <MoonUnit`> arch is 4.1.8, 15.10 is on 4.2, using the same 10-monitors.conf on both.
[12:44] <MoonUnit`> think i'll just have to wait until 15.10 is released and add myself to the bug report others may post.
[12:45] <lordievader> You could boot Kubuntu with the arch kernel/initrd and see if the problem persists.
[12:46] <MoonUnit`> will do
[12:47] <lordievader> Also it is better to report bugs now than after the release.
[12:48] <MoonUnit`> yeah, but i have a feeling he's going to go through the call centre list of getting people to do stuff before deciding it's a debian/ubuntu problem after all.
[12:52] <xela2244>  hi, openoffice  calc and any other alternatives are not working, i tried installing fglrx-updates but that caused other problems. Help
[12:52] <arran> hi
[12:52] <arran> I am reinstalling 14.04 and now miss all the menues at the top of each application windows.
[12:53] <arran> How I can I get them back?
[12:58] <xela2244> what do you mean?
[12:58] <xela2244> arran
[12:59] <arran> On top of each application windows a menu can or can not be a menu visible. I want to make it visible.
[13:11] <BluesKaj> arran,  post a screenshot
[13:11] <soee> arran: press CTRL + M when in app
[13:14] <BluesKaj> or click on control icon and choose "show menubar"
[13:14] <arran> How?
[13:41] <Inri> Hello!
[13:41] <Inri> Can you still use kde4 in kubuntu 15.04?
[13:42] <arran> inri: I do not think so.
[13:43] <arran> <how do i paste a screenshot into th paste???
[13:50] <BluesKaj> when are thses users gonna learn some patience, they ask a question and in the same minute if they don't get an immediate answer
[13:51] <BluesKaj> and leave
[14:25] <syrinx_temple> Hi all.  Noooob to KDE.  Added a widget to the desktop, placed it too far off to the side, now can't see the "x" to remove it. :(
[14:27] <soee> syrinx_temple: on 15.04 ?
[14:27] <syrinx_temple> soee: yup
[14:27] <soee> syrinx_temple: if you right click on it you don't cave menu option to remove it ?
[14:27] <soee> (be sure widgets are unlocked)
[14:28] <syrinx_temple> oh ffs
[14:28] <syrinx_temple> grumble grumble.... thank you
[14:28] <soee> :)
[14:38] <patrick_> I have a macbook air , I dont like the OS, I would like to use Kubuntu - is this more trouble that its worth ?
[14:47] <soee> patrick_: no idea, never used macbook air, what os is there ?
[14:53] <patrick_> soee:  just the OS X i think
[14:54] <patrick_> soee: I just hate the mouse gestures and windowmanagment on it, silly stuff but i like my kubuntu
[15:08] <BluesKaj> personally i don't fool with gestures etc..never saw the need for them
[15:09] <Guest20352> enybody know when kubuntu 15.10 will be stable?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> probly when it's offically released https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseSchedule
[15:12] <Guest20352> thx
[16:08] <pablolbn85> hi guys I've update Kubuntu 15.04 to KDE 5.4, and there is no option to extract archive directly from Dolphin by right click on archive.  Could you tell me how to restore it ? The same is with creating archive from selected files - there is no option for that.
[16:14] <BluesKaj> pablolbn85,  have you updated and upgraded since the plasma 5.4 install ?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> there should be an extract option with compressed files
[16:20] <pablolbn85> BluesKaj I'm using kubuntu ci stable PPA ani i update it almost daily. I've checked with Kubuntu 15.10 daily live USB and its the same.
[16:22] <BluesKaj> pablolbn85,  do you have ark installed
[16:22] <pablolbn85> yes
[16:23] <BluesKaj> but it doesn't show up in the dialog to extract
[16:25] <nishikino-maki> is Basic-Like（in windows is Visual Basic / in linux is Gambas） program language have access hardware funcation?
[16:25] <pablolbn85> BluesKaj, yes there is no option "Extract..." when I right click on archived file in Dolphin
[16:26] <BluesKaj> pablolbn85,  have you considered using unp
[16:26] <BluesKaj> !unp
[16:27] <BluesKaj> !info unp
[16:31] <pablolbn85> BluesKaj, this is the first I've heard of it :)
[16:32] <BluesKaj> pablolbn85,  it's a command line app but it works well, it's my favourite
[16:35] <pablolbn85> Yeah I see now, it's strange the KDE team removed it from menu, it's big regression for me. Even Windows has this option :>
[16:37] <lordievader> pablolbn85: Your problem was mentioned a few hours ago in #kde too, nobody replied though. Perhaps an idea to mention this in #kde-devel?
[16:38] <BluesKaj> pablolbn85,  it should list ark tho since I have ark in the "open with" dialog
[16:39] <BluesKaj> but I'm on 15.10 beta2
[16:41] <pablolbn85> lordievader thanks, BluesKaj yes it's some kind of solution for extracting files  but there is stil no option to create archive from selected files.
[16:48] <BluesKaj> pablolbn85,  check man unp , think you 'll find an archiving method there
[16:55] <pablolbn85> BluesKaj thanks
[17:20] <carlosjunior> boa tarde, estou utilizando o code blocks no ubuntu. Mas quanto tento salvar um arquivo ele me da a mensagem "File /home/carlosjunior/Documentos/curso de c/.printf could not be saved..."
[17:20] <carlosjunior> como resolvo isso?
[17:21] <carlosjunior> ja tentei executar pelo terminal, ocorre a msm mensagem. E eu estou gravando na pasta do meu usuario.
[17:32] <these_eyes> Open to privmsg.
[17:35] <Gilti> Good afternoon everyone
[19:22] <dawe-tattoo> hy
[19:33] <jubo2> I cannot get any support in #audacity
[19:56] <BluesKaj> jubo2,  could it be because you tend to ignore suggestins
[19:56] <jubo2> no.
[19:57] <jubo2> they don't suggest anything
[19:59] <BluesKaj> what ios audacity doing or not doing, not that I'm any expert altho i did use it to copy some old vinyl LPs to disk a while back
[20:01] <adroit_machine>  Kubuntu 14.04 we're sorry Plasma shell closed unexpectedly. Every 4 seconds. Need help
[20:01] <adroit_machine> kubuntu 15.04*
[20:01] <lordievader> jubo2: To come back to what I said earlier, loopback device in PA works fine.
[20:03] <adroit_machine> kubuntu 15.04 "we're sorry Plasma shell closed unexpectedly" -every 3-4 seconds. Need help!!
[20:03] <jubo2> I have sinewave on mah audio
[20:03] <jubo2> I gonna reboots the thing
[20:03] <jubo2> over 440Hz I'm sure
[21:30] <weewhang> d
[22:30] <tiwake> hmm, my clock is wrong
[22:30] <tiwake> very wrong
[22:32] <bprompt> tiwake:  to set it properly :)
[22:33] <tiwake> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=88528
[22:34] <tiwake> thats the problem I'm getting