=== nicomachus is now known as urbrother
=== urbrother is now known as nicomachus
[09:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:17] <rawcoder> hi, I'm using ubuntu 15.10 beta and getting an assertion error in pidgin. Can anyone help me?
[10:17] <rawcoder> hello?
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:33] <fhf> hi hay hello
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter: ask your issue here mate
[14:37] <NeverWinter> hello. I boot ub 15.10 and I tryed to search someting on web using firefox, but ubuntu telled me I'm disconected. what to do ?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter: check syslog or dmesg logs to see whats happening to your network card
[14:39] <NeverWinter> where can I check it ?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter: /var/log/...
[14:40] <NeverWinter> I will when I will try again
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter: check also sudo lshw -C network to see what driver loaded or not
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> and chipset of your card
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter: also write down wich grafix driver works on your gtx 970 now
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> sudo lshw -C video
[14:42] <NeverWinter> ok ok
[21:57] <penguin42> hmm, X crash, lets try a restart
[22:07] <TJ-> At the rate I'm going this weekend I'm going to run out of launchpad bug numbers for 15.10!
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[22:26] <penguin42> TJ-: Haha one of those weekends, you mean the ones where as you report a bug you end up reporting another bug and recurse
[22:27] <TJ-> Yeah... I'm about a week behind where I was Friday midday :)
[22:28] <TJ-> The bugs pop up faster than I can fix, or even report, them
[22:30] <TJ-> I'm also seeing some terrible installer display tearing on an Nvidia G73M, with the nouveau driver. I'd not have expected that level of regressions since 14.04
[22:30] <penguin42> I've had an Intel GPU hang which the kernel told me to report at freedesktop.org
[22:31] <TJ-> I've been saying for a few weeks now, Wily is going to be the worst buggy release in a few years
[22:31] <penguin42> is there any obvious reason why though?
[22:32] <TJ-> I'm seeing so many regressions. Today I had to re-fix a bug a first fixed back in 2009. Someone in Debian removed the fix from the shipped package
[22:32] <TJ-> Yeah, devs don't pay attention to the details, and packagers are more interested in volume (of packcages shipped) than in quality
[22:33] <TJ-> s/a bug a first/a bug I first/
[22:33] <penguin42> well yeh, but is there any reason Wily is particularly bad
[22:34] <TJ-> Upstream churn. Replacing old code with new, untested, incomplete.
[22:35] <penguin42> but that's always happened hasn't it?
[22:36] <TJ-> I found a Bluetooth regression in the kernel where it doesn't correctly manage a USB BT device. The last kernel I can find where it worked was v3.2. Then there's bluez v5 that has ripped out a lot of bluex v4 code and not replaced it. As a result I cannot pair any device that only supports PIN codes (so I cannot pair my Apple BT keyboards)
[22:36] <TJ-> Not to this extend
[22:36] <TJ-> systemd-cryptsetup doesn't/won't support keyscripts - thus breaking any encrypted system that requires script support for obtaining the key-file
[22:36] <penguin42> oh, I've never had bluetooth work for me, and looking at some of the code on android kernels make me think it's a disaster
[22:37] <TJ-> Bluetooth has always been great for me; I use keyboards, mice, phones and other specialist devices without problems with 14.04
=== CraHan is now known as CraHan_out
[22:38] <TJ-> I've hit about 6 issues with the desktop installer this evening... starting to feel victimised :)
[22:38] <penguin42> right, it's your fault for using it :-)
[22:39]  * TJ- rolls eyes
[22:39] <TJ-> First time I've used it in ages, I usually use debootstrap. But I thought I'd best do some ISO QA teesting since we're in Beta
[22:40] <penguin42> yeh I've also not tried the installer - just done as update