| czajkowski | my new boss teaches kids how to program and minecraft stuff | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| czajkowski | he and his son have written a book | 00:04 |
| daftykins | o0 | 00:04 |
| czajkowski | I feel like I need to go back and learn how to write code :) | 00:04 |
| czajkowski | he teaches kids from 7:30 -8:15am each morning to kids | 00:04 |
| czajkowski | daftykins: new boss is Arun Gupta | 00:04 |
| daftykins | that seems far less time than needed to get anything even started | 00:04 |
| daftykins | i don't know who that is | 00:04 |
| czajkowski | https://twitter.com/arungupta | 00:05 |
| popey | https://twitter.com/popey/status/647561191854899200 | 00:07 |
| popey | \o/ cats | 00:07 |
| popey | diddledan: I used to teach kids to code, you can get them up and running pretty quick | 00:08 |
| popey | After School code clu | 00:08 |
| popey | *club | 00:08 |
| popey | Time runs out quick though, the fast ones end up running out of stuff to do early on while the slower ones need help | 00:08 |
| popey | Tis good getting the fast ones to help the slow ones | 00:08 |
| daftykins | i'd think the first 30 mins is teething problems :> | 00:10 |
| daftykins | i've taught, hardware lessons too - those were painful | 00:10 |
| daftykins | 12-18 at once :( | 00:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | well depends on what size stick you use... >:-) | 01:01 |
| daftykins | :D | 01:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | you'd never have a cattle prod last the day for a class size of 12-18 :-P | 01:54 |
| daftykins | too true | 01:54 |
| daftykins | unless it were powered off the mains, one benefit of a fixed room to teach in | 01:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | yeah but stretching a power lead the length of a class. health and safety would be all over that :-) | 02:11 |
| daftykins | :D | 02:11 |
| * daftykins installs it at the door | 02:11 | |
| daftykins | *tzzzt* welcome x n | 02:11 |
| daftykins | we never got shauno back after the fruity tech ribbing :( | 02:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | the rest of the school watching the flickering lights... | 02:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | he must have been stuck with a sticky problem, we've all had days like that, hope he comes back | 02:13 |
| diddledan | I'm not going to say anything about ribbed tech | 02:13 |
| daftykins | diddledan may know of his whereabouts | 02:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | fishing for condoms in canal again? :-) | 02:13 |
| daftykins | lol | 02:13 |
| daftykins | such classy talk we have, here in late night club | 02:14 |
| * daftykins fetches another Guinness | 02:14 | |
| diddledan | tis 'cos popey doesn't chastise me | 02:14 |
| diddledan | I've got a nice new simple logo | 02:15 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 02:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's a coffee ring on a printout? :-) | 02:15 |
| daftykins | bit of tractor feed era paper | 02:16 |
| diddledan | lol | 02:16 |
| diddledan | https://www.behance.net/wip/1385905/2393229 | 02:16 |
| diddledan | much less embiggened and complex when compared to my old one: https://www.behance.net/wip/359537/671533 | 02:17 |
| diddledan | I might use the old one as a mast-head tho | 02:17 |
| daftykins | i think my cat is high | 02:51 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/t6ayu4ssdjnum9z/IMG_20150926_035008.jpg?dl=0 | 02:52 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| mapppppp | Hi alk | 05:30 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:51 |
| m6lpi | Morning | 09:29 |
| popey | Morning | 09:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | i spi with my little pi another pi? :-) | 09:38 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === Matrixiumn is now known as Xack | ||
| dogmatic69_ | anyone know how I can add wifi to a switch | 14:12 |
| dogmatic69_ | my router + wifi is in the lounge, pc in garage via eth. phone is on 3G because no wifi | 14:13 |
| dogmatic69_ | I have a range extender but it tries to connect to the existing wifi which is out of range, need something that can just plug into the switch | 14:13 |
| popey | dogmatic69_: i fixed this by having a second access point at the other end of the house, connnected to the first via devolo ethernet over power adapters | 14:24 |
| popey | works perfectly | 14:24 |
| popey | whole house is covered by two APs, one in my office which is near me, so yay, good speed, and one in the centre of the house for everyone else | 14:24 |
| dogmatic69_ | well I have gigabit eth here, just no wifi | 14:24 |
| dogmatic69_ | mainly looking for AP that is eth->wifi and not just a wifi repeater | 14:25 |
| popey | yeah, i have gbe in my office | 14:26 |
| popey | but not all devices have ethernet ports | 14:26 |
| * popey looks at 10 devices on his desk which don't | 14:26 | |
| dogmatic69_ | the one I bought has eth, but its out :/ | 14:26 |
| dogmatic69_ | the AP that is ^ | 14:27 |
| diddledan | dogmatic69_, are you sure you can't switch the mode on your repeater to be a bridge? | 14:27 |
| diddledan | bridge/ap | 14:27 |
| dogmatic69_ | I am looking, its a WN3000RP | 14:28 |
| popey | flash something else on it? | 14:28 |
| dogmatic69_ | looking at that also | 14:29 |
| popey | Both my WNDR3700's have been flashed, one with ddwrt and the other with openwrt | 14:29 |
| diddledan | dang, the faq on netgear.com has the bad news as the first item: http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/19070/~/wn3000rp-faqs | 14:29 |
| popey | the openwrt one is a bridge | 14:29 |
| diddledan | specifically the stock firmware won't do it | 14:29 |
| dogmatic69_ | aw, "No. Your extender is designed to work as an AP-client bridge, not an access point." on the site... | 14:29 |
| dogmatic69_ | diddledan: ta, spotted that just at the same time... checking for new firmware now | 14:31 |
| Tammyton | Hey, is anyone around? | 17:03 |
| penguin42 | imagine we were | 17:05 |
| Tammyton | my imagination isn't that great | 17:05 |
| Tammyton | jk. I'm just about to install ubuntu. Are there any good getting started guides available? I've never used linux before. | 17:06 |
| penguin42 | hmm, I've not done that for a long long time, not sure what the current best things are | 17:06 |
| Tammyton | oh okay | 17:07 |
| Tammyton | someone's just directed me to the help page. thanks anyway | 17:07 |
| penguin42 | Tammyton: One thing, try and mess with stuff - there's lots of stuff what ever you're interested | 17:08 |
| Tammyton | Will do :) I'll just be using a VM so I don't have to worry about breaking stuff | 17:09 |
| penguin42 | oh you probably wont | 17:09 |
| Tammyton | Do you think 20GB will be enough to install the OS, and have a mess around with it? | 17:11 |
| penguin42 | oh yes | 17:11 |
| Tammyton | oh great, thanks | 17:12 |
| penguin42 | WH Smiths seems to be getting desperate on ice cream sales; 75% off in Manc, last magnum of the year for 47p | 17:36 |
| Tammyton | wow lol | 18:00 |
| Tammyton | Probably trying to sell them all before the winter | 18:00 |
| penguin42 | nod | 18:03 |
| DJones | Or close to sell by date | 18:07 |
| penguin42 | DJones: This was the whole unit with a mix of different icecreams, so I suspect they want to move it out of the way | 18:35 |
| * brobostigon just had to explain to his gf, where the name dalek comes from, and that it is just a simple anagram. | 19:32 | |
| * penguin42 admits he doesn't know | 19:36 | |
| brobostigon | davros who created the daleksbeing a kaled? | 19:37 |
| brobostigon | davros who created the daleks being a kaled? | 19:37 |
| === Matrixiumn is now known as Xack | ||
| penguin42 | see I haven't really watched Dr. Who since the Tom Baker days | 19:39 |
| brobostigon | i believe the fact was known way back when william hartnell was the doctor. | 19:42 |
| penguin42 | well it was more of an indication of how long I'd been not paying attention to it | 19:52 |
| brobostigon | i see. | 19:53 |
| Tammyton | reaaaally late reply, but I haven't really watched it since Matt smith's first season | 21:43 |
| ali1234 | my mum bought a pack of three usb flash drives | 22:21 |
| daftykins | mmhmm? | 22:21 |
| ali1234 | they are all identical of course | 22:21 |
| ali1234 | but in windows, one of them shows as a removable drive, the other two show as local fixed drives | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | why? | 22:22 |
| daftykins | well, there is that option for having drives optimised for quick removal or not, i wonder if that's related | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | i checked that, setting is identical on all three | 22:23 |
| penguin42 | hmm weird | 22:23 |
| ali1234 | the software she uses, brother PE design, uses flash drives to transfer patterns to her sewing machine | 22:24 |
| daftykins | oh right | 22:25 |
| daftykins | so one's working and two aren't? | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | right | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | because the software has a menu item "send to flash drive" | 22:25 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: If you plug it into a linux system and look at /sys/class/block/sd???/removable what does it say? | 22:25 |
| daftykins | tried a 'clean' with diskpart? | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | so it doesn't recognize that two of them are flash drives because of this | 22:25 |
| daftykins | though i don't really see my idea having any effect | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | you can still "save as" and select the drive manually and it does the same thing | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | penguin42: it matches the observed behaviour in windows | 22:27 |
| daftykins | oh so it's lower level for sure | 22:28 |
| daftykins | obviously cheap tat :) | 22:28 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Weird | 22:28 |
| ali1234 | they're sandisk | 22:28 |
| penguin42 | oh | 22:28 |
| penguin42 | hmm | 22:28 |
| daftykins | i think sandisk are the #1 target of fakes | 22:28 |
| ali1234 | also weirdly the one that is removable appears to have an activity LED, the other two don't | 22:28 |
| ali1234 | bought from PC world | 22:29 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: 2 possibilities, 1) They're not really sandisk 2) Sandisk used to have this weird thing where some drives would present both a flashdrive and a cd with some installation software to do something weird | 22:29 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: What does /proc/scsi/scsi show for the 2 different types of drives? | 22:29 |
| ali1234 | identical except the removable has a different revision number | 22:30 |
| penguin42 | were these in a 3 pack? | 22:31 |
| ali1234 | yes | 22:31 |
| ali1234 | cruzer facet 8GB | 22:31 |
| penguin42 | double weird | 22:31 |
| daftykins | ah yeah perhaps penguin42 speaks of the 'U3' drives | 22:33 |
| penguin42 | possibly; my dad had some that were a pain | 22:33 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Perhaps you should try usb_modeswitch on them - although that shouldn't happen for a thumb drive | 22:34 |
| ali1234 | i doubt that would do anything really | 22:34 |
| penguin42 | agrres, although I'm out of ideas | 22:34 |
| ali1234 | maybe if i install the sandisk software | 22:34 |
| ali1234 | i reckon that they've manufactured a load of flash drives in different colours | 22:35 |
| daftykins | i'd return 'em | 22:35 |
| ali1234 | then taken the ones that didn't sell, and repackaged them with newer models in different colours as a three pack | 22:35 |
| ali1234 | the odd one out has a lower revision number | 22:36 |
| ali1234 | these were bought ages ago so we can't return them | 22:37 |
| ali1234 | they seem to work fine | 22:37 |
| daftykins | ah | 22:38 |
| daftykins | i've decided cheap flash drives are a false economy :) despite seeing a £24.99 128GB USB 3.0 with 90MB/sec read recently | 22:40 |
| daftykins | i ignored it :> | 22:40 |
| penguin42 | well the problem though is you say 'cheap' but generally would thing a sandisk drive would work | 22:41 |
| daftykins | i just mean in general there | 22:42 |
| daftykins | yeah their rep used to be good | 22:42 |
| penguin42 | but I mean it's more potluck than being able to make a judgement on cost or brand | 22:42 |
| daftykins | i'm not so sure it's that wildly open | 22:43 |
| ali1234 | they do work tho | 22:44 |
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