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RisitideWhen i was updating kubuntu 15.04,the plasma crashed.And after updating, I rebooted the systeam.It just showed a blackscreen only with a mouse.Is it  a driver problem?01:23
RisitideI'm using GTX97001:23
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these_eyesWhy isnt empathy salut registering on mdns?04:24
CayHey Kubuntu friends04:31
Cayany guesses why plasma just stops responding?04:31
Cay(is kde now called plasma)04:31
Cay?04:31
CayI can't left click or right click on anything on the desktop, this would be okay if I was given a konsole04:31
these_eyesCay bad headache? Low electrolyte?04:32
Cayapparently04:32
Cayit's doing it both on my laptop and desktop04:32
Cay15.0404:32
these_eyesTry asprin?04:33
Caysadly, I don't believe that will cure what ailes me04:34
Caythrowing my server from the balcony might help, but I just finally got passed the bios forcing me to overclock my processor04:34
Cay(no seriously, it was running at 4.1ghz instead of 3.1ghz so if it spun up to 90% cpu usage it'd cook itself and crash)04:35
these_eyesWhat is the symptoms?04:35
CayBoots up, logs in fine, once in I simply can't left or right click on anything but mouse and keyboard still respond04:36
Cay(I can't ctrl+alt+f1 though, it crashes trying to switch between X and text mode)04:36
CayI do however have ssh installed04:37
these_eyesThere's more to it than heat there's electrical differences.04:37
Caythese_eyes, in regards to the voltage on the cpu, yeah the bios was out of date with a bug. I was 8 revisions behind04:38
Cayit's all good now04:38
these_eyesIt can cause errors.04:38
CayEh, I'd agree but it's happening on my laptop too04:39
Caywhich is clocked fine04:39
these_eyesCay can you send for guns?04:40
Cayrm -rf ~/.cache/* seems to work as a temporary stop gap04:40
these_eyesI keep tellung them to open carry.04:41
these_eyesThey just make noises.04:41
these_eyes"We call police."04:42
these_eyesEvery citizen can open carry.04:46
Caycome on man, if you are going to try to troll put more than 10% effort into it04:47
Caythat's gotta be the laziest trolling I've seen in awhile04:47
these_eyesLoad up about 10 phone lines.04:48
these_eyesOn sip.04:48
Caycareful, you might be chatting long distance04:48
Caydon't want to pay international fee's for chatting on irc04:49
these_eyesNot text.04:49
these_eyesFish dont eat text.04:49
Caybut dolphins with lasers, those eat tasty texts04:50
these_eyesCay it isnt a troll it is a call to open carry.04:50
these_eyesI want to see open carry on my daily walks.04:50
Caygo forth young man, challenge the world. Just avoid those dolphins04:50
Caythey are scary little guys04:50
these_eyesSome modulation changed recently.04:53
CayI think I'm showing my age, so I shall bid adieu before it becomes obvious just how old I am04:54
CayGood night, and thanks for all the fish.04:54
these_eyesIt hurts plazma.04:54
these_eyesHiding age, hmph04:56
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SDEFHi, small issue installing Kubuntu for the first time... Can anyone help me ?06:52
SDEFDownloaded Kubuntu 15.04 iso, then unetbootin to create a USB Install06:54
SDEFAll went well, but when I am lbooting the laptop again, it is stuck on Kubuntu splash screen...06:54
lordievaderGood morning.07:36
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svend-evGood morning07:58
lordievadero/08:01
hiallhallo all!08:14
hiallwhich ubuntu version should i use,  which one is stable08:16
hiallsorry kubuntu ;-)08:17
hiallis plasma desktop not stable ? before i have some troubles08:19
lordievaderIf you want stable go with the LTS (14.04).08:19
hiallin 15.04 gives interesting features08:25
lordievaderYes, if you want new stuff go with 15.04.08:26
hiallis 15.04 stable enough to work with kontakt and standard programs.08:28
lordievaderHaven't tried Vivid in awhile, can't tell. I guess it is stable though ;)08:29
hiallok, i jump, to kubuntu with 15.04 because i hate windows so much08:32
hiallalso i hate UEFI secure boot, it make it very hard to install kubuntu.08:36
Intel_HDjs09:14
andreassomeone here u cant help me with GNUsocial ?09:33
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hiallback10:35
LogicalDashThe update manager applet keeps telling me I have 2 upgrades available, but when I click Upgrade it says my software is up to date...10:44
Xavi92I'm using Kubuntu 12.04 Precise, but I'm missing some packages from the repository11:11
Xavi92I can't find libsdl2-dev11:11
lordievader!info libsdl2-dev11:12
ubottulibsdl2-dev (source: libsdl2): Simple DirectMedia Layer development files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2+dfsg1-6ubuntu2 (vivid), package size 1104 kB, installed size 3749 kB11:12
lordievader!info libsdl2-dev precise11:12
ubottuPackage libsdl2-dev does not exist in precise11:12
lordievaderXavi92: I guess Precise is too old to have it.11:12
Xavi92But apparently Precise is still supported until 2017, isn't it?11:12
BluesKajHey all11:12
lordievaderXavi92: Yes, but that doesn't mean everything is backported to it.11:13
Xavi92Hmmm11:13
Xavi92How could I get this package without updating the whole thing?11:13
lordievaderXavi92: Depending on how integrated this library is you might backport it manually (install the deb of trusty/vivid), however this is not recommended and might break ~everything.11:15
Xavi92Probably11:16
Xavi92Apart from that, libsdl2-dev depends on lots of other packages which I don't have, either11:16
lordievaderXavi92: Likely easier to upgrade to trusty.11:16
lordievader!info libsdl2-dev trusty11:17
ubottulibsdl2-dev (source: libsdl2): Simple DirectMedia Layer development files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2+dfsg1-3ubuntu1.1 (trusty), package size 1074 kB, installed size 3671 kB11:17
Xavi92Hmm I'm using Precise on a netbook, Trusty is way too heavy for it11:17
lordievaderHow so?11:17
Xavi92Well, I tested it for a few days and it worked pretty slow11:21
TJ-Xavi92: Probably you're referring to the compositor load11:22
lordievaderYou could switch to LXDE or XFCE.11:23
sheytanHey. I'm using 15.04 with the latest nvidia driver, but can't get sound through HDMI. On Nouveau driver is the same. even if i set in phonon settings to play sound through HDMI, it doesn't. I installed the pulse audio volume controll app and it says that Digital Stereo HDMI is unplugged. What can i do? I was reading alot of articles on the Web, but nothing helps ;/12:38
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BluesKajsheytan,  open alsamixer and make sure your spdif ctl is enabled and unmuted as well as the pcm ctl, those 2 digital ctls feed the hdmi audio out13:06
BluesKajsheytan,  also in alsamixer disable the automute with the up or down arrow key13:08
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Guest13855Hi everybody..I am new to kubuntu......I have some basic knowledge of python programming.....is there any option for me to get involved?13:12
mparillo_Guest13855: I think so. For example, I believe the installer for Kubuntu is written in python, as is much of the build automation. Best place to offer would be #kubuntu-devel, but I expect things are quiet there until Monday.13:15
Guest13855mparillo_: in kubuntu dev page I have seen that I should have a mentor....is there any standard process for that?13:19
mparillo_Not that I know of. Basically from what I have seen, you join #kubuntu-devel, say what you know, and (if you have one, your preferred itch to scratch) and somebody replies with a matching need (often their preferred itch), and it goes from there.13:24
mparillo_But generally you will be asked to join Launchpad.net, sign the code of conduct and upload your keys.13:25
mparillo_If the itch turns out to be upstream, you may also be asked to create a KDE identity.13:26
Guest13855So can I can approach anyone there for help?13:28
ahoneybunGuest13855: you can ask for help to "scratch the itch" if that's what you mean13:32
BluesKajkind of quiet there today13:32
ahoneybunyea it's sunday13:32
Guest13855Sorry I am new here...I am not habituated with the terms....can you please elaborate?13:33
ahoneybunGuest13855: most people are out for the day (I'll be out in a little bit)13:41
mparillo_Basically you offer what you know, and what you think you might want to work on (scratching the itch means some little thing that is bothering you that you might want to improve). Yes, you can introduce yourself and ask a question and if somebody is around who can help you will get a response. If you get none, maybe wait a couple of hours and ask again.13:44
Guest13855ok...thanks..13:44
mparillo_But if you have nothing particular you want to work on, just a general desire to help, then somebody might ask you to work on his/her perception of what needs improving.13:44
yofelGuest13855: first thing you'll want to hang around in #kubuntu-devel to see what's going during the day and get to know all the folks. You probably also want to subscribe to the mailing list and offer your help there, there you'll have a wide audience and reach even the people that aren't on IRC all the time13:46
Guest13855ok....these informations are very helpful....13:47
yofelGuest13855: well, we don't have much written down documentation (most is probably on the trello TODO lists https://trello.com/kubuntu). The best thing really would be to be in #kubuntu-devel, see what's going on, see if there's something you believe you can help with and offer your help for that13:50
yofelwe're short before 15.10 release, so we esp. need help with QA13:50
Guest13855can please share some other information I need to know about the community?13:56
TJ-Guest13855: for 15.10 the list of bugs tagged for attention before release is at http://www.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:58
TJ-Guest13855: you might want to help out with additional triage, or even fixing some if they're trivial13:58
BluesKajGuest13855,  https://trello.com/kubuntu , http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ , http://goo.gl/AOx7bx13:58
kabubyhi everyone14:00
kabubyI'm a newbie on kubuntu and I'm facing some problems during installation/configuration settings.14:01
kabubyPlease can someone help me?14:01
kabubyI'm writing from Italy14:01
kabubythanks in advance everybody14:01
low_riderWhat are your problems?14:02
kabubyI'm trying to install kubuntu 15.0514:02
kabubyI'm trying to install kubuntu 15.0414:02
BluesKajkabuby,  tell us your problem in more detail, maybe we can help14:02
kabubyon a Thinkpad W53014:02
kabubydual boot with efi with Windows 8.114:03
low_riderWhat's going wrong?14:03
kabubyI'm having some big problem with14:03
kabubyNvidia drivers14:03
kabubythis laptop has 2 video card14:03
kabubyIntel GMA4000 and Nvidia K2000N14:03
kabubywith optimus14:03
kabubyhttp://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:W53014:04
BluesKajkabuby,  install nvidia-prime first otf all14:04
kabubyfirst try14:04
kabubyafter install kubuntu just freeze after grub and with the logo in the center of the page14:04
kabubyI changed bios setting to discrete graphics and disable the intel one14:04
kabubykubuntu start14:05
kabubybut when I try to run Driver Manager14:05
kabubythe driver manager app freeze when I try to check OpenGL section14:06
kabubyI've tried to download from Nvidia website the latest proprietary driver14:06
low_riderDo you have this certain problem only with Kubuntu?14:06
kabubybut install cannot continue due to plasma...I have to close plasma and run it from shell14:06
kabubyIt's first time that I try to install linux on this laptop14:07
kabubyI've installed linux in other notebook and desktop pc14:07
kabubybut no one have this hardware configuration14:07
kabubyafter the nvidia driver fail and I found an unofficiale driver "caught" from Driver Manager and try to install it14:08
kabubybut the system cannot complete the startup process.14:08
kabubyI read some forum around14:09
BluesKajoptimus systems require nvidia-prime on kubuntu , kabuby .... if you'll just stop typing and read for a minute14:09
kabubyand it seem it's a combination of 2 problem...official nvidia driver and acpi with nvidia14:09
kabubyISorry bluska14:09
kabubyI was just telling all that I've done14:10
kabubyok.14:10
kabubyhow can i find/install nvidia-prime driver?14:10
BluesKajit's in the repos/ package manager14:10
kabubySorry for mistipyng BluesKaj14:10
BluesKajthat's ok14:11
kabubyI just try to search for "nvidia-prime" in Muon discover14:11
kabubybut cannot find anything14:12
BluesKajkabuby,  that's why use just plain muon, it's still better than the muon discover14:13
kabubySorry Blueskaj I cannot get it.14:14
kabubyI'm a really newbie14:14
BluesKajnvidia-prime might be installed by default, depending on your kubuntu version14:14
kabubyI'm really a newbie14:14
kabubyok14:14
kabubyHow can I check it?14:14
BluesKajwhich kubuntu did you install?14:15
kabuby15.0414:15
kabubyx6414:15
kabubykernel 19.0-28-generic14:16
kabubyxorg 1.17.114:16
BluesKajok, after the nvidia logho flashes try ctl+alt +F1 - F6 which is a virtual terminal aka VT/TTY , login, then do sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt uipdate . Then sudo apt install nvidia-prime , then reboot14:18
kabubyI didn't see the nvidia logo during startup process14:18
BluesKajok do you get any blinking cursor or erro message14:19
kabubyi just saw once after I try to install the driver that device manager14:19
lordievaderYou want to reverse the order on the apt commands: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade14:20
BluesKajoops yes lordievader is correct kabuby sudo apt uipdate && sudo apt upgrade14:21
lordievaderupdate* ;)14:21
kabubyok14:22
BluesKajyeah, my eyes abit foggy today ..allergies14:22
kabubycan I try via shell now14:22
kabubyor I need to reboot?14:22
kabubywhat If I didn't see any nvidia logo?14:22
BluesKajtry now14:23
kabubyok14:23
MoonUnit`in a fit of madness i updated the mobo bios today, after booting back into Wily i was shocked, shocked to discover the screen rotation still didn't work. imagine that.14:25
MoonUnit`updated the launchpad bug, i'll see what he suggests next.14:25
BluesKajscreen rotataion 90 degrees ?14:26
kabuby"sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" return me <<unable to lock /var//lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: resource tmeporarly not available)14:26
kabuby@MoonUnit the Bios is up to date14:26
kabubymmm14:27
kabubyUpdate manager was running on background14:27
kabubymaybe this is the problem why the command was unsuccesfull14:27
kabubyI try after updates finish14:28
BluesKajkabuby,  yes14:28
kabubythanks in advance BluesKaj14:29
BluesKajMoonUnit`, , if you have a regular BIOS I don't think there are many firmware changes since the shift to UEFI14:30
kabubyI need to restart...se you later.14:32
Guest13855I was checking Linux desktop environments and found that kde is most resource hungry...how much RAM do I require for kubuntu 15.04?14:32
lordievaderGuest13855: How much do you have?14:33
BluesKaj1Gb is recommended minimum, but it's not realistic14:34
Guest13855Currently running on a lenovo b40....CDC/2GB RAM14:35
lordievaderGuest13855: Would run fine on there, if you don't multitask a lot.14:35
kabubyback14:36
kabubyI try again14:37
kabuby"udo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" some repository return an error 404 not found14:39
kabubybut most are ok14:39
kabubyproceed with nvidia-prime install14:39
BluesKajsudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade14:41
kabubyyes14:41
kabubyinstallation complete14:41
kabubyhow can I check if everything it's ok?14:44
BluesKajyou can run startx or reboot14:45
kabubyok14:46
kabubysee you later :)14:46
BluesKajthink you should check your bios and re-enable the intel gpu if you disabled it14:46
kabubyand thanks again14:46
kabubyok14:46
BluesKajthank me if you get a dektop :-)14:47
BluesKajdesktop even14:47
kabubyI'm back...14:51
kabubyBluesKaj you're safe :)14:51
kabubyinformation center on OpenGL section still freeze14:53
kabubyI know it's not a real test14:53
kabubyHow can I check if the driver is loaded correctly?14:54
lordievaderkabuby: lspci -k|grep -A3 VGA14:54
kabuby00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)         Subsystem: Lenovo Device 21f5         Kernel driver in use: i915 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller (rev 04) -- 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107GLM [Quadro K2000M] (rev a1)         Subsystem: Lenovo Device 21f5 02:00.0 System per14:56
kabubyboth intel and nvidia driver are shown14:56
BluesKajyup14:56
lordievader!paste14:56
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:56
lordievaderThis is unreadable. I am not sure if the nvidia driver is loaded or not.14:57
kabubyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12591304/14:57
kabubyok?14:57
BluesKajyou can get a shorter output if you you have mesa-utils installed and use the command, glxinfo | grep OpenGL14:58
lordievaderNope, no nvidia driver loaded.14:58
lordievaderOr nouveau for that matter.14:58
BluesKajlordievader,  it won't load until required afaik14:58
BluesKajkabuby,  install mesa-utils14:59
lordievaderThat sounds very strange. But I have no experience with hybrid systems (luckily).14:59
kabubytrue lordievader...luckily14:59
kabubyok15:00
kabubysorry for my incompetence but...how can I install mesa-utils?15:00
kabubyI try "sudo apt-get mesa-utils"15:00
kabubywith no success15:00
TJ-I thonk some hybrid GPU systems disable (in firmware) all but the PCI config space. So we get the device listed but the driver doesn't load since the GPU IOMEM mapping BARs aren't present15:01
kabubymaybe I can try to disable the intel vga15:02
BluesKajsudo apt install mesa-utils15:02
BluesKajdon't disable anything15:02
kabubyYes..15:02
kabubyi get it through google :)15:02
kabubydone15:03
BluesKajok, glxinfo | grep OpenGL15:03
kabubyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12591363/15:03
kabubyhere is the result15:03
kabubyfu%£"%$£%ng intel video card15:03
kabubyI try to enable nvidia card and disable the intel15:04
kabubyand reboot15:04
kabubyok?15:04
BluesKajoops wrong command15:04
kabuby???15:05
BluesKajdpkg -l | grep nvidia15:07
kabubyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12591391/15:07
kabubysudo lshw -c video15:07
BluesKajthen dpkg -l | grep intel , the i915 driver should show15:07
BluesKajlshw shows the hardware15:09
kabubyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12591402/15:09
BluesKajkabuby,  do you still have the intel gpu turned off in the BIOS15:10
kabubyno15:11
kabubyas you told me I enable the Optimus settings15:11
kabubythat mean the system "decide" which graphic card has to be enabled15:12
kabubyI would like to try to exclude the Intel GMA and enable oinly the Nvidia driver15:12
kabubyand try if the nvidia-prime driver load correctly15:12
kabubyok?15:12
BluesKajcheck your bios , kabuby , make sure the intel is still in use15:14
BluesKajthe intel driver handles the lighter loads, then the nvidia takes over for the heavier stuff using the switcheroo15:15
kabubythe intel is active15:28
kabubyboth graphic card are active15:28
kabubybut it seems nvidia is not working15:28
kabubyand only intel is15:28
kabubyrunning15:29
kabubyI will try to disable it15:29
kabubyand see if the nvidia-prime driver load correctly15:29
kabubyif this work I will re-enable intel video card15:29
kabubyand look for switching funcionality15:29
kabubyfunctionality15:30
kabubysee you later15:31
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kabubyback again15:37
kabubysituation get worst15:37
ZeroEraHow do I update from 14.10 LTS to 15.04?15:42
ZeroEraHow do I update from 14.10 LTS to 15.04?15:43
lordievaderZeroEra: First change the setting to allow to upgrade to non LTS releases.15:44
lordievaderThen upgrade.15:44
ZeroEraI've done that. I get an error message saying "An update from trusty to vivid is not avaible with this tool"15:46
alxdhello, how can I open debug / logs for kubuntu installer on live usb?15:49
lordievaderZeroEra: What does 'sudo do-release-upgrade' do?15:50
ZeroEraI get the same message15:51
lordievader!eolupgrade15:52
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:52
lordievaderPerhaps ^ is why.15:52
mparilloZeroEra: I would not recommend it unless you should be giving advice here. 14.04 LTS and 14.10 (non-LTS, but the main edition) were Plasma 4. 15.04 was Plasma 5, and even the 14.10 Plasma 5 Tech Preview upgrade to 15.04 was unsupported (probably because it did not come close to working well).15:54
Guest13855kubuntu will work out of the box in ubuntu preinstalled laptops?15:54
ZeroEraThanks for your advices16:00
BluesKaj-phonetesting the mobile irc client16:54
sheytanBluesKaj: the SPDIF is enabled but the volume is down and i can't change it with the up/down arrows16:54
BluesKajwhich volume ctl, sheytan?16:54
BluesKaj-phonephone client worms16:55
BluesKaj-phoneworks16:56
sheytanBluesKaj http://i.imgur.com/w4HOn0D.jpg16:56
BluesKajsheytan,  the pcm determines the spdif volume16:57
sheytanBluesKaj: So it's enabled, right?16:58
sheytanand volume is up16:58
sheytanand it should work?16:58
BluesKajsheytan,  yes just make sure your output in system settings>phonon devices shows spdif and hdmi out17:00
BluesKajsys settings >multimedia17:02
sheytanBluesKaj: http://i.imgur.com/ULaPjB6.jpg17:02
sheytanno matter which one i choose, there's still no sound through hdmi17:02
sheytanbut, pavucontrol shows HDMI Digital Output (unplugged). Why unplugged?17:03
unique_can anyone here tell me how to reset timer on screen saver?17:03
BluesKajsheytan,  is it plugged into the target device ?17:03
sheytansure :D17:04
BluesKajis the device turned on?17:04
sheytanI got the vision17:04
sheytanjust no sound17:04
BluesKajI have to ask17:04
sheytani get it, but im not that noob :D17:04
BluesKajis it a tv?17:04
sheytanyep17:04
BluesKajmaybe your sound setup on the tv ic still in analog, check your tv preferences and audio settings17:05
sheytani did17:05
sheytanand it switches to HDMI automatically17:06
sheytanit's a new tv17:06
BluesKajmy panasonic needs to be setup according to the source which can be analog or digital17:08
sheytanWell, ill check that again :)17:08
PadanFainhi17:55
mikkleAny good qt5 music players that do global shortcuts?18:01
unique_can someone please check this pastebin link and tell me if I have a Genuine copy of Kubuntu?      http://pastebin.com/VXLtC05K18:08
unique_hello18:17
BluesKajhi unique_18:25
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bwinsHi, installed 15.10 beta2 and now can't seem to login to the desktop after updates, anyone else experience this problem?19:24
BluesKajbwins,  do you get to a blinking cursor or error or what?19:26
bwinsBluesKaj:  I can enter my password, cursor changes to an X but nothing more happens19:27
bwinsI can ctrol-alt-f2 to a terminal window and that runs fine19:28
BluesKajbwins, ok in the terminal/VT run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade, then you'll see some packages install, run startx, and you should be able to get to the desktop after logging in19:32
bwinsBlueskaj: I did a sudo apt-get update/upgrade but didn't try startx again, I did a reboot with no luck19:39
bwinsI'll try startx if you think it might help19:40
bwinsbe back in a minute19:40
BluesKajno startx won' help19:40
bwinsok19:40
bwinswhen first installed the desktop ran great, so there was an update that messed it up19:41
BluesKajbwins,  which graphics gpu?19:41
bwinsBluesKaj, intel graphics19:42
bwinsintel HD 3000 graphics on Acer laptop19:43
dajomuHi, anyone knows why I cannot find my NAS on my network using Dolphin? I am running Kubuntu 15.10, but I had the same problem on 15.04. I get the message "unable to find any workgroups on your local network" It works fine if I write smb:/"ipaddress"19:49
bwinsBluesKaj, back in a few - will try a few things19:49
lordievaderdajomu: Are you in the same workgroup? (This whole workgroup thing is a mess anyways)19:51
BluesKajbwins,  try , sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-intel19:51
dajomulordievader: yes I am19:51
lordievaderHmm ,I guess you could add the smb link to your places.19:52
lordievaderdajomu: ^19:52
dajomulordievader: that is a solution, but I was interested in why it does not work19:52
lordievaderdajomu: Perhaps a firewall somewhere, I guess a packet capture will tell you.19:53
dajomulordievader: no firewall. I have no problems browsing to the nas using windoes19:53
dajomuwindows19:53
BluesKajdajomu,  try using dolphin>network>add network folder19:53
dajomuor android19:54
dajomuBluesKaj: thanks, that actually worked19:55
dajomuBut it still is a bit irritating that Dolphin does not find it by scanning.19:57
BluesKajdajomu,  never used any scan option in dolphin, never heard of it.19:58
dajomuBluesKaj: when you go to network, and then click or double-click network again it will scan for shared drives19:59
dajomusorry, try click on samba shares instead. then it will scan20:01
BluesKajI don't use samba much , prefer sftp for linux machines or the windows network drive for windows machines20:05
lordievaderBluesKaj: The Windows network drive is samba ;)20:06
lordievaderSamba is the reverse engineerd CIFS protocol, CIFS is used in Windows to share files.20:06
BluesKajwell it' s smab yes, but I don't have samba gui installed20:09
BluesKajor smb even20:09
lordievaderNo need, samba is a protocol.20:10
TJ-samba is the F/OSS server project name20:18
BluesKajI do agree about the windows homegroup , it's a mess since W720:23
ugly_catHello, I have a boot issue.. I have two Linux distros installed. An old kubuntu one drive and another kubuntu on a newer drive. Problem is that it always tries to boot to into the older kubuntu.21:50
ugly_catShows the old kubuntu splash and then sits there with a black screen.21:51
TJ-ugly_cat: the PC BIOS/UEFI boot manager chooses which device to boot from21:51
ugly_catIt boots into grub fine though.21:51
ugly_catEven when I select the newer kubuntu it shows the old splash.21:52
ugly_catI have to go into the new kubuntu recovery and then select resume boot to get into the new one.21:52
bprompthmmm21:59
bpromptugly_cat:    did you ever remove the old installation? or both are there side by side?21:59
ugly_catThere side by side.22:04
ugly_catI pretty much just use the old one as storage.22:05
bpromptugly_cat:    why not just reformat it? :)22:05
bpromptugly_cat:     that way it'll be actually a storage, and update-grub won't add it :)22:06
bpromptugly_cat:    but I assume, you can just get rid of /boot in the old installation, and update-grub won't add it to the grub menu, but, I see no good reason to simply reformat it, and make your directories for storing files as needed22:07
ugly_catI just deleted everything but my home dir... Which is lazy and probably not ideal22:07
ugly_catUpdate-grub didn't add it though :D22:07
bpromptok... so is not in the grub menu anymore22:08
ugly_catYeah, it's not there. I think I screwed something up with update-initramfs thougj22:09
ugly_cat...I've been dropped to an initramfs prompt...22:09
ugly_catI need stop making rash uneducated decisions with my linux set up. My impatience usually causes me hours more trouble.22:10
bpromptget some chamomille tea box of 20 bags or something :P22:10
ugly_catI should22:11
ugly_catHow do I get myself out of this mess? Lived?22:11
ugly_cat*lived?22:11
ugly_catStupid phone live cd*22:11
bpromptout of w0t?   thought you fixed whatever that was22:11
ugly_catI'm in an initramfs prompt.22:12
bpromptFrank: Like an animal. Because of her, I have to sit here like an animal!Serenity now! Serenity now! George: What is that? Frank: Doctor gave me a relaxation cassette. When my blood pressure getstoo high, the man on the tape tells me to say, 'Serenity now!' George: Are you supposed to yell it? Frank: The man on the tape wasn't specific.22:12
bpromptseinfeld episode :P22:13
bpromptugly_cat:     so...  I understood you've fixed your issue, or so I read you22:13
TJ-ugly_cat: have you tried unplugging the old drive to ensure a clean boot on the 'new' drive, and after confirming that is OK, reconnecting the 'old' drive and removing its boot-loader boot-strap code from sector 0 (or if UEFI, removing its .efi boot-loader from the ESP) ?22:14
ugly_catTJ-:  a lot of that went over my head. My mobo is uefi, but I'm not sure how to remove the .efi.22:19
ugly_catI can get into a busybox (initramfs) prompt.22:21
ugly_catBut that's it.22:21
ugly_catWhoa22:22
ugly_catPressed ctrl-d and I now have a bash prompt.22:23
ugly_catExcept it's read only...22:23
TJ-ugly_cat: UEFI is far easier to work with than legacy/BIOS boot method, if that's how the system is configured22:24
ugly_catIs there an easy way to regenerate the boot folder.........22:38
ugly_catGreat, now I can't even get that bash prompt.22:40
amundsenhi23:19
bpromptallo23:20
amundsensome time ago, in summer, there were some rumours about 15.10 as the last kubuntu version23:20
bpromptk23:20
amundsenthose problems finally get solved?23:21
bpromptsometime ago, there were some rumors also about a bigfoot mammal, with the name of "sasquatch", btw23:21
bpromptamundsen:     I never knew they existed to begin with23:21
bpromptwait... I think someone mentioned something a while ago, but for all we know, as good as the sasquatch story though23:22
amundsenok23:23
amundsenthx for the info23:24
KNRObprompt: Everyone knows sasquatch is real but no one knows about 16.0423:34
bprompthehe23:35
bpromptyeah, sasquatch has been singing with Elvis over at vegas pretty sure =)23:35

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