| hallyn | hm, so what is the briefest recommended way to check whether a service is running from a script (preinst actually)? I guess 'service <service> status | grep -q running'? | 00:15 |
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| hallyn | (in systemd you can just check return value of service $service status, but not in upstart) | 00:15 |
| TJ- | hallyn: isn't there an initctl option with upstart? I seem to recall something | 00:19 |
| hallyn | TJ-: yeah but not with systemd | 00:23 |
| hallyn | i'm looking for one cmd to work anywhere. | 00:23 |
| hallyn | heck i don't know what 'service libvirt-bin status' will do on sysvinit offhand | 00:23 |
| TJ- | I can't help with libvirt-bin, but on 12.04 I see this: | 00:26 |
| hallyn | my concern with service x status | grep running is that 'running' might show up inthe fail log for x | 00:26 |
| TJ- | service tomcat7 status | 00:26 |
| TJ- | * Tomcat servlet engine is running with pid 5618y | 00:26 |
| hallyn | right, but if it's not running, then "service tomcat7 status && echo running" will show "running" right? whic his different from with systemd | 00:27 |
| TJ- | Yeah; service/initctl return 0 | 00:28 |
| hallyn | so i might just have to use a helper which checks whether upstart is init. but i'd like to avoid that | 00:28 |
| TJ- | I'm sure I found a tool that changes exit value | 00:28 |
| TJ- | probably it was for sysvinit | 00:35 |
| hallyn | actually now i'm second-guessing what i'm doing it all. this is something to think about inthe morning, not sat night. thanks for rapping :) | 00:43 |
| hallyn | hm, when is hte next freeze? | 03:11 |
| hallyn | phew, oct 8 looks like | 03:12 |
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| jtaylor | the installer now downloads prop. graphics drivers before starting to work? | 16:16 |
| jtaylor | besides that I have not been asked about that, it also downloads for 10 minutes without any feedback | 16:17 |
| jtaylor | giving the impression that its stuck | 16:17 |
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| NikTh | apw: ping | 17:14 |
| node1_ | hi , can anybody guide me how is archlinux created ? I have read linux from scratch , and want to see the same process for Ubuntu ... thanks | 17:16 |
| cjwatson | You'd have to ask an Arch channel how Arch Linux is created. | 17:25 |
| eliasps | Hey, can anyone help me in uploading a package? I am at the step where I have run debdiff. Do i need to change anything in the files? | 18:18 |
| node1_ | please let me know how is ubuntu linux created .... from scratch | 18:40 |
| Inoki | Hey everyone, I'm dabbling a bit in code for a VPN reconnect script. This is my first attempt and I would love if someone could have a look and tell me if I got it right http://pastebin.com/MNniCb6u | 18:54 |
| cjwatson | node1_: Perhaps https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment is the best place to start for open-ended questions like that | 19:46 |
| === athairuzzz is now known as athairus | ||
| mapreri | so, I'm about to upload a package (scribus) to debian sid. is there a way to "be sure" nobody is going to sync it? it's somewhat experimental (but not so experimental to deserve a exp upload), and even if it might very well fix something I'd prefer a stable thing like wily not to ship it. | 20:39 |
| cjwatson | mapreri: I can put it on the sync-blacklist | 20:40 |
| cjwatson | mapreri: is it safe to say it can be unblacklisted for the X cycle? | 20:41 |
| mapreri | cjwatson: yeah, sure | 20:43 |
| TJ- | Any ubiquity experts around can look at bug 1500110 ? | 20:44 |
| ubottu | bug 1500110 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "mount point /tmp/tmp.${RANDOM}/var does not exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500110 | 20:44 |
| cjwatson | mapreri: done | 20:45 |
| mapreri | cjwatson: ♥ this week you're saving my days :) guess just for this you gained a beer at the next DC :) | 20:46 |
| mapreri | do i need to poke somebody to get it removed once wily's out? | 20:46 |
| cjwatson | mapreri: heh. it won't be removed automatically - somebody may notice, or there's an outside chance I'll remember, otherwise poke somebody | 20:55 |
| cjwatson | mapreri: or you could set up an at job to mail me :) | 20:55 |
| mapreri | or I could try to break lp, till I get access to the ubuntu archive and sync it myself :> | 20:56 |
| mapreri | cjwatson: ok, I'm pretty sure I'll notice there is something wrong and remember this :) which team is managing that list? | 20:57 |
| cjwatson | mapreri: ~ubuntu-archive | 21:00 |
| mapreri | ack | 21:00 |
| kees | cjwatson: say, do you have any idea how these got linked? (and how to unlink them?) https://launchpad.net/freediag/+packages (freediag != scantool) | 21:05 |
| kees | it does weird things like shows freediag's project description on the ubuntu scantool package page, etc. | 21:05 |
| mapreri | kees: there is '-' sign on the right? | 21:05 |
| mapreri | kees: also, you can go https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/scantool and hit the same sign | 21:06 |
| kees | mapreri: sure, but how did it _happen_? (will it happen again by the same means after I click the '-', etc?) | 21:06 |
| mapreri | the thing is, everybody (i think) can link them | 21:06 |
| kees | right | 21:06 |
| kees | I assume it's related to freediag's binary being named "scantool" | 21:06 |
| mapreri | that doesn't help make things clear ;) | 21:07 |
| cjwatson | yeah, a lot of people can link them | 21:07 |
| cjwatson | let me unlink | 21:07 |
| kees | well, freediag isn't in ubuntu, which is funny | 21:07 |
| cjwatson | kees: is the Debian diagnostics package also unrelated? | 21:07 |
| mapreri | cjwatson: "a lot" => ? | 21:07 |
| cjwatson | er let me unlink these first and then check | 21:07 |
| mapreri | sure | 21:08 |
| cjwatson | but generally it's in the category of things that LP makes fairly open to encourage people to garden it (decision from waaaay before my time) | 21:08 |
| kees | cjwatson: I think so, but I'll check | 21:08 |
| kees | I only noticed because the freediag author contacted me, confused about ubuntu and scantool | 21:08 |
| cjwatson | ha, look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scantool now | 21:09 |
| cjwatson | the suggestion is probably there because of scantool in the description, I'm guessing | 21:09 |
| mapreri | [09:06:33 PM] <kees> I assume it's related to freediag's binary being named "scantool" | 21:09 |
| cjwatson | yes I don't agree with that being likely | 21:09 |
| cjwatson | description is more likely to be a thing LP has noticed | 21:10 |
| cjwatson | again, will check in a moment | 21:10 |
| cjwatson | (OK, the description is because the binary is named scantool; what I mean is that LP is not going to have been hunting about in branches or tarballs or whatever for names to suggest) | 21:10 |
| kees | looks like "diagnostics" is a third scanning tool unrelated | 21:10 |
| cjwatson | right, +edit-packaging is literally usable by anyone who's logged in | 21:11 |
| mapreri | that's open! | 21:12 |
| kees | cjwatson: thanks for poking at it! :) | 21:12 |
| cjwatson | and basically what the suggestion widget does is the equivalent of https://launchpad.net/projects/+index?text=scantool | 21:14 |
| cjwatson | so I think the suggestion makes sense but it's unfortunate there's no way to blacklist | 21:15 |
| NikTh | Hello, any kernel maintainer here? I want to achieve something but I'm following the wrong direction, pretty sure about that. :) | 21:31 |
| eliasps | Guys, how can I sent a package to a ppa that I dont have upload rights for sponsorship/upload? | 22:41 |
| ogra_ | you ask the owner | 22:42 |
| eliasps | ogra_ thank you. | 22:52 |
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