[00:14] <daftykins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0zWkWrWlBY
[00:15] <daftykins> another person nearly killed in the cycle lane here ¬_¬
[00:16] <penguin42> well if people will insist on riding on a pair of wheels with nothing around them other than a coat and a hat
[00:18] <daftykins> ;)
[00:18] <daftykins> not so amusingly is that guy worked with the one that got killed on the same corner 2 years ago
[00:21] <ali1234> i think it would be worse if it was the other way around
[00:22] <daftykins> ?
[00:23] <ali1234> it's like "wow, i'm so lucky not to end up like my friend" vs "i knew this was going to happen but i couldn't do anything about it"
[09:09] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[16:18] <penguin42> anyone recommend for/against any compatible toner companies ?
[16:34] <ali1234> #android ... how do these people even figure out how to use irc?
[16:38] <penguin42> they probably got an app to tell them
[16:39] <popey> Afternoon
[16:40] <penguin42> hey popey
[17:13] <ali1234> ubuntu can't install onto an 8GB partition any more.
[17:15] <popey> yeah, it's grown a bit
[17:16] <ali1234> what i don't understand is how you managed to get 800% compression
[17:17] <ali1234> that's an absurd ratio
[17:18] <ali1234> the xubuntu iso is only 200MB smaller, after install it's like 3GB
[17:19] <ali1234> also, wily installer says i need 7.8GB, but an 8GB virtualbox partition will crash during install with an apport that takes you to the bug report that gets generated when the installer runs out of space, was reported several years ago, and still doesn't have a bug pattern or a sensible error message in the installer
[17:22] <Tammyton> Hey, I'm new to linux. How do I do this? "Update your packagelist using your package manager"
[17:22] <Tammyton> I'm using ubuntu
[17:32] <penguin42> ali1234: Some stuff is ludicrously compressable, but also watch out for the 1st set of updates that you get after install
[18:19] <ali1234> unity is still painfully slow in virtualbox too
[18:24] <directhex> everything is. virtualbox's GL implementation is a toy
[18:30] <penguin42> does it have one or is it using llvm in the guest
[18:42] <daftykins> do books not get VAT?
[18:42] <daftykins> paperbacks
[18:46] <penguin42> literary works are apparently 0 rated
[18:46] <penguin42> https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-notice-70110-zero-rating-of-books-and-other-forms-of-printed-matter/vat-notice-70110-zero-rating-of-books-and-other-forms-of-printed-matter
[18:46] <penguin42> hmm not sure why that part of the URL is repeated, but apparently it is
[18:46] <daftykins> ty sir :>
[18:46] <daftykins> 'tis an alien thing to me
[18:47] <daftykins> funny one in a shop just before, a guy asked if there was a casino he could waste his time in for the evening
[18:47] <daftykins> i said nope sorry it's Sunday, everything'll close up before midnight for sure and there'll be nothing :)
[18:47] <penguin42> daftykins: Someone in the US sent me some promotional material the other week for work; beer mats, bookmarks etc - they guessed at a figure of $50; I got a fedex bill for 37GBp
[18:48] <daftykins> ugh how come they charged you o0
[18:48] <penguin42> daftykins: Well, I guess it's vatable and it's the recipient I guess who gets it (although apparently it should have gone on the internal fedex account)
[19:02] <diddledan> evenin
[19:15] <ali1234> penguin42: i installed guest utils and it's still slow
[19:15] <ali1234> also multimonitor doesn't work for some reason, it used to
[19:37] <popey> I hear VMWare fusion is way better for GL
[21:07] <Azelphur> http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/cello-7-quad-core-tablet-white-from-misco-plus-delivery-10-27-2290084 that is ridiculously cheap, amazing the world we live in now days
[21:12] <popey> the 10" one is a tenner!?
[21:15] <popey> must be a misprice
[21:17] <zmoylan-pi> fresh child labour with the new school year? :-/
[21:50] <Azelphur> popey: god alone knows, tempting to just wall mount one in every room for home automation
[21:50] <Azelphur> would only cost like 40 quid
[22:07] <zmoylan-pi> how much automation is required for it to be worth a wall panel in every room, lights, heat, security, front door intercom...
[22:08] <dogmatic69_> zmoylan-pi: what you mean?
[22:09] <popey> they will not fulfill those orders, surely
[22:13] <zmoylan-pi> a wall panel using a cheap mounted android tablet sounds neat, but i'm just curious as to what different folk think would require to be automated before they'd go that far dogmatic69_
[23:51] <diddledan> terminator genisys is good
[23:51] <diddledan> I really do love the terminator theme music
[23:53] <diddledan> nice early 90s industrial synth
[23:55] <zmoylan-pi> so better or worse the t3 t4?
[23:55] <diddledan> better than t3
[23:56] <zmoylan-pi> not difficult
[23:56] <diddledan> t4 was a bit skewed though 'cos it doesn't have any timehopping
[23:56] <zmoylan-pi> wasn't great either
[23:56] <diddledan> true
[23:56] <diddledan> I think it stands ok on it's own but as part of a series it falls short (t4, I mean)
[23:57] <diddledan> they kinda completely ignored t4 in genisys
[23:58] <diddledan> really I think t1, 2 and 5 work as a trilogy - the rest are just silly
[23:59] <zmoylan-pi> now they just need to reboot the series to remove t3 and t4... :-)
[23:59] <zmoylan-pi> some sort of time travel story...