[00:00] <lwd> I also have UEFI enabled
[00:00] <NoteOn> hi
[00:00] <wileee> lwd, not sure there is an expert install button.
[00:00] <NoteOn> why you need mini.iso?
[00:00] <wileee> lwd, uefi though I believe, a live is needed.
[00:00] <NoteOn> sorry im not good enlish... ubuntu-ja is no one there...
[00:00] <lwd> Want a custom installation without some pre-installed apps and some more
[00:00] <daftykins> dbkaplun: sorry not a support question
[00:01] <NoteOn> ah, so mini means like from scratch..
[00:01] <lwd> Yup, just minimal
[00:01] <dbkaplun> lol I didn't know IRC was so serious these days
[00:01] <wileee> !mini | NoteOn No, a net install
[00:02] <NoteOn> ya
[00:02] <lwd> wileee, NoteOn: To complete this, you can also only install a text-mode Ubuntu :)
[00:02] <manuel__> well i'm trying to install a new theme in Xubuntu but i can't, i have benn tryin with the theme configurator, and don't works, the guide says that you should drop the tar.gz into the box but doesn works either create a folder in home/ called .themes or put the theme uncompressed intho /usr/share/themes
[00:02] <NoteOn> how about onlu cli. then you can do all. >lwd
[00:03] <gioans> hello
[00:03] <wileee> lwd, Yes, however I'm not sure the mini does uefi is all check that.
[00:03] <daftykins> lwd: what's so special about your install? most work fine from the standard desktop media
[00:03] <lwd> NoteOn: The CLI-only Ubuntu is mostly used for servers or embedded machines or whatever
[00:04] <rww> I just use Ubuntu Server for servers, it's what it's there for.
[00:04] <gioans> i am looking for application for my ubuntu, the applicaton the same Visual studio of windown
[00:04] <rww> (and Debian for embedded :|)
[00:04] <daftykins> gioans: you mean you want to find an equivalent?
[00:04] <NoteOn> I don't know mini.iso inside.. I know its just small. only installer and network part?
[00:04] <lwd> daftykins: I don't want some pre-installed applications, and want a expert install, and some more
[00:05] <gioans> yes
[00:05] <gioans> daftykins: yes
[00:05] <gioans> i am sorry my English not good
[00:05] <TJ-> lwd: "While the minimal iso image is handy, it isn't useful for installing on UEFI-based systems that you want to run in UEFI mode. The mini iso lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode"
[00:05] <gioans> i am Vietnamese
[00:06] <lwd> TJ-: Oh, really?  Isn't there a fully UEFI mini.iso ?
[00:07] <daftykins> gioans: http://alternativeto.net/software/visual-studio/
[00:07] <TJ-> lwd: No. It is possible to install in Legacy/CSM mode and then manually replace grub-pc with grub-efi if you really want/need to
[00:08] <lwd> This makes me sad ...
[00:08] <NoteOn> oh its 40mb mini.iso
[00:08] <NoteOn> so thats text base? I think
[00:08] <NoteOn> no x, cli
[00:09] <daftykins> yes.
[00:09] <lwd> It's only a boot image, with network drivers.  Nothing more ..
[00:09] <TJ-> NoteOn: It's the basic debian-installer, the same as -server
[00:10] <NoteOn> if space problem this is not your case.. I use other distro mini iso by netboot then do terminal
[00:11] <lwd> I'm currently running Debian, but the drivers etc are so bad ... want to switch to Ubuntu.  On my live CD, all worked fine.
[00:11] <NoteOn> most case I use SliTaz. direct netboot iso.. then I do Gparted, and then terminall etc.
[00:11] <TJ-> lwd: Ubuntu is Debian+, especially as regards the kernel/core. Unless you mean the proprietary drivers/firmware packages?
[00:12] <lwd> TJ-: Yes
[00:12] <lwd> I meant them
[00:14] <TJ-> lwd: ubuntu-server should do everything you want; it installs the ubuntu-minimal task,configures users etc., and lets you choose packages to add before the installer finishes. After that, you can install packages the regular way with apt
[00:14] <lwd> Sorry, my internet connection is broken
[00:14] <TJ-> lwd: -server uses the ncurses debian-installer
[00:14] <lwd> TJ-: Oh, sounds good.  I'll try that, thank you.
[00:15] <NoteOn> how is web server? I use centOS (before RHE), ubuntu is desktop only now.
[00:16] <lwd> What do you mean with "how"?
[00:17] <TJ-> NoteOn: Ubuntu is mostly server, especially kvm/lx{c,d}/'cloud'
[00:17] <NoteOn> pros cons vs centOS or debian
[00:17] <lwd> Ubuntu == Debian
[00:18] <NoteOn> now ISP has menu select cent, debian ubuntu, bsd. and win server..
[00:18] <TJ-> lwd: No, Debian++ ... we base off Debian packages and add Ubuntu specific changes, but some parts Ubuntu does differently to Debian
[00:19] <NoteOn> well, centOS I never use desktop, only teminal and control by webmin and ISP's direct menu.. ie. KVM like
[00:19] <lwd> CentOS isn't designed to be used on desktops :)
[00:19] <daftykins> this is off topic folks, ubuntu support only
[00:19] <NoteOn> so web edition is just same as ubuntu? ie. only different package?
[00:20] <daftykins> webmin is dead in debian + ubuntu land
[00:20] <daftykins> !webmin
[00:20] <NoteOn> or like ubuntu-studio, it has real time kernel.. for low latency..
[00:20] <NoteOn> ah ok thanks
[00:33] <toothe> I am using Ubuntu on a VPS, and I have kernel 4.0.4. But on my VM its only 3.19. What gives?
[00:33] <toothe> unless its a custom kernel?
[00:34] <daftykins> talk to your VPS provider, that's not ubuntu.
[00:34] <toothe> it must be a custom kernel then.
[00:34] <toothe> 4.0.4-x86_64-linode57
[00:34] <daftykins> heh the clue is in the name
[00:35] <toothe> darn.
[00:35] <toothe> i was hoping either mint or ubuntu were using a later kernel.
[00:35] <daftykins> what's the issue though?
[00:35] <daftykins> why?
[00:35] <daftykins> what does the # matter?
[00:56] <Techspectre> So I run Gnome in my Ubuntu installation, but I just installed KDE as well so that I could use and customize Dolphin (which is feature-rich in contrast to nautilus). The upshot is, now I've got this nifty new KDE cursor even in Gnome. Downside is, all my GTK3 apps have no borders. How can I fix?
[01:11] <Intelli> ctrl+shift+u does nothing when trying to input unicode characters. I believe the problem was caused by installing SCIM. Purging SCIM doesn't fix it. Any ideas?
[01:13] <Intelli> I need to input unicode characters to do homework, but ctrl-shift-u no longer works due to SCIM.
[01:16] <Intelli> Is no one here to help with problems like this?
[01:16] <daftykins> !patience
[01:17] <Intelli> Sorry, I just don't see anyone answering or asking questions, thought this place might be for something else.
[01:18] <daftykins> it's late o'clock on a Saturday night or Sunday morning
[01:18] <daftykins> times get quiet.
[01:20] <alexbucuresti> true
[01:21] <L3top> Intelli: This is a gentoo page, but might reveal a clue. http://gentoo-en.vfose.ru/wiki/SCIM
[01:22] <L3top> The only Chinese I know has to do with cuisine so I am of little help here
[01:22] <daftykins> :D
[01:48] <alu> I've been getting the same damn error for days
[01:49] <alu> http://sprunge.us/OhDa
[01:52] <TJ-> alu: That looks like an issue with a manually installed local LUA package
[01:52] <Techspectre> Is it generally inadvisable to install multiple DEs?
[01:53] <daftykins> you probably just have to be careful about it so they don't fight
[01:55] <Techspectre> daftykins, I always use Gnome, but I start with stock Ubuntu because the Ubuntu Gnome distro uses GDM, which doesn't play nice with 4 monitors. But using Gnome with LightDM has worked fine for me for some time now. But now that I've installed KDE, just for the sake of using its file manager, everything's sorta screwed now.
[02:00] <alu> what lua package TJ-
[02:01] <thedanyes> intelli: maybe dpkg reconfigure some related packages
[02:02] <TJ-> alu: I don't know, but the paths in your pastebin contain a lot if indications of some local install of LUA
[02:02] <thedanyes> intelli: dpkg-reconfigure, that is.
[02:02] <alu> yeah i use luarocks
[02:02] <alu> its a package manager for lua
[02:06] <daftykins> Techspectre: mmm, could kill the lot then add things back in - don't know :)
[02:06] <daftykins> alu: that makes your issue not an ubuntu one imo
[02:08] <nug700> ugh
[02:12] <Techspectre> daftykins, you mean uninstall everything?
[02:12] <daftykins> well i wouldn't use a more Windows term, but essentially sure
[02:12] <Techspectre> lol
[02:12] <Techspectre> purge it all?
[02:13] <daftykins> something like that
[02:13] <TJ-> Techspectre: have you tested with the Guest/new user log-in?
[02:13] <Techspectre> At that point, may as well load up a live USB and just reinstall Ubuntu
[02:13] <Techspectre> TJ-, no, should I?
[02:16] <Amjad> Hello
[02:18] <Amjad> I have an issue with ubuntu-desktop and VNC server, I installed them correctly and I can contact to my server but I still cant see my desktop. any idea why ?
[02:23] <Amjad> using TightVNC
[02:24] <daftykins> what *does* happen?
[02:25] <Amjad> just gray window
[02:25] <daftykins> check logs, probably misconfigured
[02:26] <daftykins> though server + GUI + VNC = flawed plan :)
[02:28] <Amjad> Why ?
[02:28] <Amjad> https://goo.gl/QRZgjF
[02:28] <daftykins> what is your link?
[02:29] <Amjad> what it does when I connect to my server
[02:31] <rww> daftykins: a shorturl to a dropbox image which is basically just a big gray square
[02:31] <daftykins> lol
[02:31] <daftykins> how useful
[02:32] <Amjad> I know it is not useful that's why I came here to ask you
[02:32] <Amjad> here it is the log http://pastebin.com/EPeidXhu
[02:35] <Amjad> and here is my vnc xstartup http://pastebin.com/9xJE1ZB2
[02:39] <ulkesh> anyone happen to know how to get the intel ac7260 to connect via 802.11ac in Ubuntu 15.04?  I've got the 3.19+ kernel firmware from the intel site extracted to /lib/firmware/ and i turned power management off on the wlan0 in /etc/rc.local...still connects at 54Mbit
[02:57] <ulkesh> nobody eh?
[03:09] <jokersmile_woo> is this the right forum for sound trouble shooting in Lubuntu 15.04. acer aspire v5 122p 0869.
[03:10] <Krav3n> hello all
[03:10] <cfhowlett> jokersmile_woo, lubuntu has a channel but more eyes here
[03:12] <Krav3n> I have a question. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and was wondering if upgrading to 12.10 will mean that I lose data (pics, documents, etc) Is it more stable?
[03:12] <cfhowlett> Krav3n, going to 12.10?  end of life.
[03:12] <bazhang> Krav3n, theres no upgrade to that
[03:13] <mxgms> yes, it is better, but why not the 14.04?
[03:13] <bazhang> eol is not better
[03:13] <bazhang> its completely unsupported
[03:13] <Krav3n> Oh. Well, how do I upgrade to 14.04 from 12.04?  I don't want to brick my system (noob here, sorry)
[03:13] <cfhowlett> Krav3n, sudo do-release-upgrade should take you to 14.04
[03:14] <AndyDevSA> Krav3n: is it utilising an AMP stack?
[03:15] <Krav3n> I'm just worried that making such a big jump from 12 to 14 will corrupt something, but I know incremental upgrades will take forever...
[03:15] <AndyDevSA> The only thing you must take into consideration is whether or not to upgrade your acutely config files for Apache and php..
[03:15] <cfhowlett> Krav3n, then don't upgrade.  12.04 is still supported.
[03:15] <AndyDevSA> The release upgrade is quote safe..
[03:15] <Major_Ramsey> I always recommend backing up your data
[03:15] <cfhowlett> Krav3n, OR backup your data is upgrade to 14.04
[03:16] <Major_Ramsey> Regardless of how safe an upgrade is
[03:16] <AndyDevSA> Sure
[03:16] <Krav3n> I just got spooked because apport has been going crazy on 12.04 for me. I get a popup every few minutes telling me that there has been an internal error
[03:17] <AndyDevSA> Uninstall, apport
[03:17] <Krav3n> so, I take I guess it's safe to ignore these error messages then?
[03:18] <AndyDevSA> service apparmor stop  update-rc.d -f apparmor remove  apt-get remove apparmor apparmor-utils
[03:19] <AndyDevSA> What is the function of this server? Web hosting?
[03:19] <Krav3n> Thanks, Andy. I assume after installing apparmor, errors will still get logged in a log file...right?
[03:20] <Krav3n> It's just a simple home network setup. Nothing fancy at all.
[03:20] <AndyDevSA> AppArmor is a security extension (similar to SELinux) that should provide extended security. In my opinion you don't need it t
[03:21] <AndyDevSA> Ok.. So you have samba installed?
[03:21] <Krav3n> yes
[03:22] <AndyDevSA> Have you ever heard of zentyal?
[03:22] <Krav3n> No, sir. What's that?
[03:23] <AndyDevSA> It's  a very handy release for your type of situation .. Dubbed the exchange replacer, it's also feature packed and powerful
[03:23] <AndyDevSA> http://www.zentyal.org/
[03:23] <Krav3n> exchange replacer, eh?  Very interesting
[03:24] <AndyDevSA> Visit the sight and see for yourself... With the latest releases of samba .. Exchange no longer had a niche
[03:25] <Krav3n> Thanks for all the good tips. I will be doing some serious research on zentyal.
[03:25] <AndyDevSA> It's free too.. I usually drop them as turnkey solutions at clients..
[03:25] <AndyDevSA> Glad I could help
[03:27] <Krav3n> I really appreciate the help. Asking for this type of advice usually isn't a very pleasant experience. Glad there are some cool people in the community.
[03:27] <Krav3n> Well, I'm off to get some work done. Thanks again.
[03:27] <AndyDevSA> Lol.. Visit here one in a blue moon..
[03:36] <LuiX> hey, how to remove the livesession user on a liveusb with persistence?
[04:03] <deadlock> hi
[04:13] <liquidsnake> hello all
[04:13] <ziggyfish> hi
[04:13] <liquidsnake> how goes it?
[04:13] <AndyDevSA> Good
[04:16] <liquidsnake> yeah same here
[04:16] <liquidsnake> just chillun
[04:16] <liquidsnake> drinking a few cold ones
[04:16] <AndyDevSA> True true
[04:16] <AndyDevSA> ;-)
[04:17] <liquidsnake> i just installed xubuntu on my laptop
[04:17] <liquidsnake> seems to be running fine thus far
[04:18] <ziggyfish> I am just waiting for Kernel 4.3 to come out so I can hear sound again
[04:20] <AndyDevSA> There's a preview release available btw
[04:21] <AndyDevSA> 4.3-rc2
[04:30] <Cay> Evening ubuntu
[04:31] <Cay> just realized this one is for kubu, sorry ubu
[04:33] <lickalott> hey all.  looking to install the latest qyoto cil and dev packages on 15.04 but I can't see to find them.  Are they already wrapped into another package?  Any help would be appreciated.
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !find qyoto
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !find qyoto
[04:41] <Cay> well so much for #kubu
[04:46] <prakash> hello
[04:56] <xpilot> I'm having some trouble installing wine
[04:56] <xpilot> it appears that I have "held broken packages"
[04:57] <xpilot> tracing the dependencies, it looks like the problem is with libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
[04:58] <tomek__> hi
[04:58] <tomek__> anyone can help me how to switch x-_ to -X_?
[04:59] <xpilot> which depends on libdrm-intel1:i386, which depends back on libgl1-mesa-dri:i386...
[04:59] <xpilot> any ideas?
[05:04] <tomek__> anyone can help me with minimize maximize buttons?
[05:04] <liquidsnake> I'm back
[05:05] <liquidsnake> nope
[05:06] <wileee> tomek__, dconf-editor I believe, not sure exactly where
[05:14] <Guest51436> anyone know how to fix password problem with Thunderbird?
[05:14] <ezequiel> hola
[05:15] <Guest51436> Gmail not setting up properly with thunderbird.... anyone have any ideas?
[05:15] <Guest81041> hello
[05:16] <tama> hai
[05:22] <ubuntu953> hey! i have dualbooted windows8 and ubuntu15.04. now when i start it takes me directly to windows. but if i go to uefi settings on start then i am able to choose grub2 and load into ubuntu.
[05:22] <ubuntu953> is there any way to take me directly to grub
[06:18] <Taoist1351> anyone know a good channel for like general chat and conversation?
[06:19] <ObrienDave> ##chat #mnfh
[06:20] <ObrienDave> i think you have to be invited to ##chat
[06:22] <Taoist1351> cool i'll give it a try. I just like to chat. I've found the channels I need for my Linux based questions
[06:26] <Taoist1351> Is IRC anonymous? As far as ip add.
[06:26] <ObrienDave> no
[06:27] <ObrienDave> (~ninja@h139.74.17.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net): Ninja
[06:27] <ObrienDave> there are ways but this is not the channel for that
[06:30] <Taoist1351> Hm I was thinking IRC was secure chat. //The more you know\\
[06:39] <barbosa> bonjours
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> !fr | barbosa
[06:53] <Vowel> Hello
[06:54] <Vowel> How do you allocate more memory to an executable .jar file?
[07:10] <soulisson> Hi, from what i understand the pv utiliy relies on the amount data written to the external pipe, is that correct?
[07:17] <ubuntu383> hey! please help with dual boot issue. laptop boots directly to windows.
[07:18] <Archyme1> ubuntu383, in what order did you install windows/ubuntu?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | ubuntu383
[07:19] <ubuntu383> windows8.1 was oem then installed ubuntu 15.04
[07:19] <dea_> moinsens :)
[07:19] <ubuntu383> i can boot into ubuntu by restarting my laptop and going to boot from device options
[07:19] <ubuntu383> it shows ubuntu
[07:20] <Archyme1> ubuntu383, and you cant use the down arrow to select ubuntu?
[07:21] <ubuntu383> i dont get your question? on starting laptop after shutdown it loads directly windows. then i have to restart and enter advanced boot.
[07:22] <ubuntu383> there in "boot from device" i can see ubuntu
[07:22] <ubuntu383> also to add when installing ubuntu i did manual partions
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | ubuntu383
[07:23] <ubuntu383> lotuspsychje: i have read all this documentation before even installing. i installed ubuntu in uefi mode
[07:25] <ubuntu383> i have tried bcdedit set bootmgr path to \efi\ubuntu\shimx64.efi
[07:25] <ubuntu383> still it directly loads to windows
[07:27]  * boss slaps AbraxasSC around a bit with a large fishbot
[07:30] <ubuntu383> EasyBCD is also showing this: Entry #3 Name: ubuntu Device: \Device\HarddiskVolume2 Bootloader Path: \EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi
[07:37] <dea_> how to disable firefox updates forever and how to get old firefox via ppa? Anyone an idea?
[07:41] <auronandace> dea_: sticking with an older version (especially is it isn't an esr version) is asking for security trouble
[07:58] <lasorby> hey can anyone here give a guy some help I'm completely new to this linux shit and all my father wants for me is to play toribash
[07:59] <lasorby> i've been trying to find the install for an open source graphics driver so it'll actually do stuff through steam
[07:59] <Krispy> anyone know how to add alt-tab as a window toggle? im running ubuntu with the gnome flashback compiz
[08:00] <Krispy> alt + tab i meant
[08:01] <ztane> so is ubuntu 15.10 now Python 3-only on fresh install?
[08:03] <auronandace> !ubuntu+1 | ztane
[08:03] <ztane> ah :P
[08:03] <akik> lasori: i don't see linux being supported for toribash
[08:04] <akik> lasorby:
[08:05] <akik> wow poof he's gone
[08:05] <jonty> hey guys i just installed xubuntu , my bluetooth audio handset in not working anymore ,, it is working perfectly in mint and ubuntu
[08:22] <loa> hello how i can output sound to specific pulse sink from command line?
[08:22] <loa> is there some player where i can specify this?
[08:25] <securelord> #haskell
[08:26] <loa> ok mplayer can do this
[08:31]  * lennylxx help
[08:37] <Mattacker> http://pastebin.com/hmzjuLH8 <-- check this paste ! and help me out...
[08:39] <Mattacker> http://pastebin.com/hmzjuLH8 <-- check this paste ! and help me out...
[08:39] <akamaus> hi all
[08:40] <momentius> hi
[08:41] <akamaus> if I plug out my laptop running Ubuntu 14.04 from AC power my secondary hdd starts repeating spindowns. I figured it has to do with hdparm -B parameter being set too low. But who does it?
[08:43] <akamaus> I remember in Ubuntu12 where was apmd doing this, but now it seems to be inactive and can't even be started with default kernel
[09:03] <vincenzo> ciao
[09:03] <vincenzo> !list
[09:12] <lennylxx> long
[09:12] <saldot> where do you usually place downloaded applications that you install manually?
[09:12] <saldot> in your home directory?
[09:13] <saldot> (yeah, i'm quite new to linux/ubuntu)
[09:16] <interest1ng> saldot: why did you install them manually?
[09:16] <saldot> it's a beta version
[09:16] <saldot> not available from the repository
[09:17] <primordialOooZe> hello there, I cannot delete files on a memory card. it says read-only. even gksudo didnt help..can you suggest a solution please? thank you
[09:18] <saldot> interest1ng, where are applications usually installed to?
[09:18] <loa> primordialOooZe, try to reads dmesg
[09:18] <loa> read *
[09:18] <primordialOooZe> loa, I dont know what to do with it..just type dmesg?
[09:19] <loa> primordialOooZe, yes in console
[09:21] <interest1ng> saldot: since you are a beginner, installing things manually is not recommended
[09:21] <interest1ng> saldot: check if the software has a ppa
[09:21] <saldot> old version does, latest beta doesnt
[09:22] <interest1ng> also, it would help if you said what the software was so i knew if u needed to compile it etc.
[09:22] <primordialOooZe> loa, it outputs an endless flow of lines
[09:22] <saldot> interest1ng, no need to compilte, it's python based
[09:22] <saldot> looked at the old version seems to install to /usr/share so i'll use that dire
[09:22] <saldot> *dir
[09:23] <interest1ng> you will need to root to put things there, but you might not need to
[09:23] <interest1ng> you can make a folder in your home directory (e.g. bin) and then add that to your $PATH
[09:24] <peekout> hi
[09:26] <primordialOooZe> loa, thank you for your help. I will try to solve it later.
[09:26] <tim_> hoi
[09:27] <loa> primordialOooZe, you need lines which appear when you insert your flash... they will be at the end.
[09:28] <primordialOooZe> ah, ok..I will check again now
[09:32] <primordialOooZe> loa, I made a shortcut. I erased the memory, which solved it all
[09:34] <primordialOooZe> loa, thank you for your help! :)
[09:38] <iftekhar> 0
[09:44] <nsh> if i wanted to encrypt the / fs post-install
[09:44] <nsh> is there a way to do that with a lower than 5% chance of eating all my homeworks
[09:44] <nsh> ?
[09:44] <TJ-> nsh: There aren't tools to easily do that in-place
[09:45] <nsh> presumably it's relatively trivial if you can backup everything outside the [already-encrypted] home partition
[09:45] <nsh> aye
[09:45] <nsh> truecrypt had some magic for it on windows istr, but god knows
[09:45] <nsh> and seems potentially fragile
[09:45] <nsh> i'll probably just backup my data and do a reinstall
[09:45] <TJ-> nsh: if the system is using LVM and has reserved some free extents, it should be possible to recreate
[09:45]  * nsh nods
[09:46] <nsh> what are the important things to save other than homedir, dotfiles and configs from /etc for configured packages
[09:46] <nsh> in fact, is it possible to use apt-* to list all configuration files associated with installed non-default packages?
[09:46] <nsh> that seems doable and might allow for a relatively interaction-free reconfigure of a fresh install
[09:47] <TJ-> nsh: there'll be configs under /var/lib for some packages too
[09:47] <nsh> aye, but apt keeps track of what's config
[09:47] <nsh> at least, there's remove/purge so it is savvy to the difference between functionality files and config files
[09:48] <TJ-> nsh: it depends what kind of partitioning the system is currently using, and how its split up. It's sometimes possible to find free space to bootstrap a post-install encryption
[09:48] <nsh> ideally, i'd like every change i make to the OS to be stored as in a git repo, with branching, transactional rollback, pull requests, etc.
[09:48] <nsh> but this is more than a weekend project and i have difficulties focusing on a problem for more than a few days at a time
[09:50] <TJ-> deb-foster can save the required package installation targets to reconstruct the same package tree. dpkg's /var/lib/dpkg/ maintains the package state
[09:52] <TJ-> nsh: In the lab I've done what you're wanting via temporarily dropping the swap partition and re-using it as a temporary holding space to enable the root file-system to be shrunk to its minimum size, then created a new partition in the free sectors released in the root-fs partition
[09:53] <nsh> TJ-, thanks kindly!
[09:58] <Micheleee1993> Hi
[09:58] <Micheleee1993> Why i can't resize ext4?
[10:01] <Norbin> I am having lots of graphic issues with intel hd530 (skylake), tried many different kernel versions (including 4.3 rc2), 14.04/15.04 , same problems.. like if i open more than 2 windows at once i will start getting pixels all over my monitor. this only happens over linux (so not hardware problem)
[10:01] <musca> Micheleee1993:  please elaborate
[10:02] <cfhowlett> !details | Micheleee1993
[10:02] <TJ-> Norbin: I'd be more concerned if there weren't pixels all over the monitor :)
[10:03] <Micheleee1993> I think that i solve...i choose swapoff on gparted on the linux-swap partition, and now I can resize the extended partition :)
[10:03] <TJ-> Norbin: I think you have to wait for Intel to sort out the glitches with the drivers in-kernel and for Xorg
[10:03] <Norbin> TJ-: i am too upset to even describe properly :P but i mean everything gets mushy and blurry and the mouse barely moves, lots of different issues
[10:04] <Micheleee1993> Sorry for my English
[10:05] <Micheleee1993> I'm using live cd because when i use ubuntu i can't unmount the ext4 partition
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> Micheleee1993  of course... you can't repair a car while driving
[10:08] <Micheleee1993> Hahah
[10:09] <hypermist> Woah lotus isnt on atm Haha
[10:10] <Micheleee1993> Why on the partition of windows 7 there is a key symbol?
[10:10] <TJ-> Norbin: The best workaround for now is probably to use a Desktop that doesn't do compositing, or turn compositing off if that is possible.
[10:10] <Micheleee1993> (I'm using gparted)
[10:10] <cfhowlett> Micheleee1993, key  = locked
[10:11] <Micheleee1993> When it is locked and I'm using ubuntu, i can't see the file on this partition?If yes, i can unlock this?
[10:14] <cfhowlett> Micheleee1993, it's locked as a safety measure.  yes you can bypass it.  unless you are very sure you know what you are doing, you should not.
[10:14] <Micheleee1993> Ok thanks
[10:21] <NwS> Heya guys a quick question. Any ideas if a new Ubuntu phone will come before 2016?
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> !phone | NwS quick answer
[10:22] <NwS> ty MonkeyDust
[10:25] <Micheleee1993> What I'm doing when i choose swapoff on the swap partition in gparted? I must turn on when i finish the resizing of the ext4 partition?
[10:26] <cfhowlett> Micheleee1993, swapoff = turn off swap.
[10:26] <Micheleee1993> I must to turn on at the finish of resiIng of the other partition?
[10:31] <pmaxk> h to all...
[10:31] <zagaza> hi guys.. weirdest thing ever.. I am editing stuff on my ftp server, but when I do sudo nano on that file I edited, changes are not there.. but when I view the file through the ftp server again, changes are there.. any ideas?
[10:48] <leadbox> why would i choose ubuntu over mint ?  convence me
[10:49] <doomlord> mint is better
[10:50] <leadbox> doomlord: really now ?  in ubuntu chat even
[10:50] <baizon> leadbox: no one can answer this question for you
[10:51] <doomlord> leadbox actually :   xubuntu is good, so it the xfce flavour of mint.
[10:51] <doomlord> thats just my preference
[10:51] <baizon> doomlord: please dont tell wrong facts
[10:51] <leadbox> baizon: just tired of mint's chatrooms
[10:51] <doomlord> i was just trolling when i said 'mint is better'.  I will clarify: i prefer xfce over unity.
[10:52] <leadbox> ubuntu is using systemd now ?
[10:52] <EriC^^> leadbox: yeah since 15.04
[10:52] <baizon> leadbox: i used all of them, stayed with unity on desktop and xfce on laptop
[10:54] <MrElendig> leadbox: because it is brown instead of green
[10:54] <leadbox> EriC^^: sorry, which ubuntu is current ?
[10:54] <baizon> leadbox: 15.04
[10:55] <leadbox> ok, so very new
[10:55] <baizon> leadbox: 15.10 will be released next month
[10:55] <leadbox> MrElendig: as long as it's not pink, LOL
[10:55] <MrElendig> leadbox: pink is superior
[10:56] <MrElendig> leadbox: btw, you should read the /topic when you enter irc channels :)
[10:56] <leadbox> MrElendig: am i off topic ?
[10:57] <MrElendig> leadbox: no, but it does say which are the current supported versions :)
[11:01] <leadbox> can grsecurity be used with systemd ?
[11:02] <MrElendig> yes
[11:02] <ad> hello
[11:03] <lvleph> I was having trouble with virtualbox not loading kernel headers, so I followed the instructions here http://askubuntu.com/questions/498900/vbox-on-14-04-kernel-driver-not-installed-rc-1908
[11:03] <lvleph> Now unity-settings-daemon has to be run by root, which was never required before. And I still can use virtualbox.
[11:07] <john__> when i switch to some themes in unity the terminal will uncontrollably shrink i will resize it but it shrinks again... any ideas???
[11:08] <sf_> o/
[11:09] <lvleph> okay that was weird. chmod 770 /home/$USER fixed the unity-settings-daemon issue.
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> lvleph  that's how good this channel is
[11:09] <lvleph> That I solve my own problems?
[11:10] <lvleph> Everytime I come here I get no answers and figure it out myself.
[11:10] <lvleph> Not sure why I still come here to get help.
[11:10] <sf_> i have some problems installing mysql-server5.6 on ubuntu 14.04.3, i get the error with cups. Here is the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12589761/
[11:10] <sf_> can anyone who had similar problem maybe help me?
[11:11] <lvleph> john__ check the settings of your terminal. It is probably set to be a certain size.
[11:13] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:32] <john__> when i switch to some themes in unity the terminal will uncontrollably shrink i will resize it but it shrinks again... any ideas???
[11:41] <chips> hello everybody
[11:41] <chips> new in this server
[11:41] <SCHAAP137> greetings chips, welcome
[11:41] <chips> thanx schaap
[11:46] <chips> schaap how r things here
[11:47] <cfhowlett> chips, this is ubuntu support.   ask your support questions or chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:47] <cfhowlett> thank you.
[11:49] <Be25080> ciao
[11:54] <Norbin> TJ-:  i installed kernel 4.2.1, removed splash and added i915 preliminary support, it's somewhat usable now :/ still getting random screen flickering when moving from monitor1 to monitor2 etc
[11:59] <Raja-Singa> hey all, i have problem with my ubuntu 14.04. my ubuntu don't want to log in after lock....
[12:00] <Raja-Singa> i see, indicator HDD lamp is turn off after lock... any solution ?
[12:00] <auronandace> Raja-Singa: sounds like a suspend/hibernate issue
[12:00] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[12:03] <frolog> if ldconfig lists libs in a certain place and they are not there anymore, how can i "purge" ldconfig?
[12:05] <TJ-> frolog: regenerate the cache by running 'sudo ldconfig'
[12:06] <frolog> nice, ty
[12:06] <frolog> TJ-, is it a good idea to always install your stuff with a prefix and not just shove it in usr/lib or usr/lib/local?
[12:06] <Raja-Singa_> umh, i think no...
[12:07] <TJ-> frolog: generally prefix=/usr/local is preferred for autoconf-managed projects
[12:07] <frolog> why not?
[12:07] <Raja-Singa_> before i press the enter key, cursor is still can be moving..
[12:07] <frolog> ok, i had problem when installed different versions of the same lib...
[12:08] <TJ-> frolog: if the SONAME wasn't bumped then one lib version probably replaced another
[12:08] <Raja-Singa_> but after i press enter, they is not responding, i see after i press enter, lamp off HDD indicator is turn off..
[12:17] <K350> ho to change desktop enviroment from the console?
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> K350  you must logout to change the DE, it's not something you do from the terminal or tty
[12:25] <TJ-> K350: "/var/cache/lightdm/dmrc/${USER}.dmrc" => "Session=XXXX"
[12:33] <K350> Nokaji: Oh, I see.....hm..ok..thanks !:-)
[12:33] <Nokaji> K350: That's okay, it was nothing :)
[12:44] <fractionated> Hey, using Ubuntu Mate now, new to Ubuntu
[13:01] <om> Hellow
[13:05] <Norbin> if i have 2 of the same application opened in the launcher, i can see 2 white lines that indicates that 2 of the same are open, but when i click on the icon it doesn't do anything
[13:05] <Norbin> right click does bring the menu to choose from
[13:05] <Norbin> but left click should do something as well iirc
[13:05] <demahum> I am trying to format my SD card. This happens quite often. Gparted shows input/output error. I know that I can format it in Windows, but I don't want to do that anymore (everytime it works there). Any suggestions?
[13:05] <EriC^^> Norbin: it might be in another workspace
[13:05] <Norbin> i don't have any workspaces, it's disabled
[13:06] <EriC^^> Norbin: is the arrow full or empty?
[13:06] <Norbin> EriC^^: if i right click and then choose, i can see it
[13:06] <Norbin> looks like it's full
[13:06] <EriC^^> oh ok, no idea
[13:07] <cfhowlett> demahum, sd cards are flakey and fail often.  try a different card
[13:07] <Norbin> it started since i installed the tweak app
[13:07] <demahum> cfhowlett: But that is not permanent solution. I can use different card and it will work.
[13:08] <demahum> cfhowlett: If use this card in Windows, format it there, it will work again in Ubuntu here.
[13:08] <demahum> cfhowlett: I will even be able to format it, as before.
[13:08] <EriC^^> Norbin: maybe there's a setting in it
[13:08] <demahum> cfhowlett: It is not just with this one, I am using multiple of them. It happens for all of them.
[13:08] <sweb> which file system is good for store milions of files ...
[13:09] <demahum> cfhowlett: They work 100%.
[13:09] <EriC^^> demahum: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:09] <demahum> EriC^^: parted or gparted?
[13:09] <EriC^^> parted
[13:09] <demahum> EriC^^: Sorry for question. :)
[13:09] <EriC^^> np
[13:10] <demahum> EriC^^: Unrecognized disk label
[13:10] <demahum> EriC^^: Do you want link?
[13:10] <EriC^^> ok
[13:10] <demahum> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/b4im
[13:11] <cfhowlett> unknown partition table?  and you already partitioned and formatted?!
[13:12] <TJ-> demahum: was the formatting done on a different (Windows) PC, or the same PC/SD-card slot with dual-boot ?
[13:12] <demahum> cfhowlett: I didn't manage to format it.
[13:12] <TJ-> demahum: I've seen where dust in the SD-card slots causes intermittent I/O errors.
[13:12] <demahum> TJ-: I was using it just here, in Ubuntu (and on another Linux box).
[13:12] <EriC^^> demahum: is the card 16gb? and the only one you have plugged in right now?
[13:12] <demahum> TJ-: I understand your idea...
[13:13] <demahum> TJ-: But as I said..
[13:13] <demahum> TJ-: If I go in Windows (dual boot) on the same slot it will be formatted without problems. :/
[13:13] <TJ-> demahum: I was going to suggest the weak read-only latch detection issue too, but you won't see I/O errors with that, only a read-only device
[13:13] <demahum> EriC^^: Yes, the only one.
[13:13] <TJ-> demahum: That does tend to suggest a driver isssue
[13:13] <EriC^^> demahum: ok, type sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk0
[13:14] <demahum> EriC^^: I tied fdisk before. But I will try once again. :)
[13:14] <TJ-> demahum: "lspci -nnk" (or "lsusb" if the SD-card device is attached on USB bus) might help us
[13:14] <EriC^^> ok
[13:14] <demahum> EriC^^: You want just format or something special?
[13:14] <EriC^^> demahum: press o , then press w
[13:15] <EriC^^> ( to make a fresh partition table )
[13:15] <demahum> EriC^^: done
[13:15] <TJ-> demahum: have you monitored "/var/log/kern.log" for I/O errors ?
[13:15] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 again
[13:15] <demahum> TJ-: nope.
[13:16] <TJ-> demahum: in these types of issues its always the first thing I do
[13:16] <demahum> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/afb4
[13:16] <demahum> EriC^^: same as before
[13:16] <cfhowlett> that partition table unknown should have correct itself.
[13:16] <EriC^^> demahum: maybe it needs a restart so the kernel registers it
[13:16] <TJ-> demahum: Are you sure the device isn't in hardware read-only mode ?
[13:16] <demahum> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/Gq55ZNAx
[13:17] <demahum> TJ-: Yes, I am. :D
[13:17] <EriC^^> demahum: try sudo cfdisk /dev/mmcblk0
[13:17] <EriC^^> then create a partition using the whole space
[13:17] <TJ-> demahum: can you "pastebinit /var/log/kern.log"
[13:18] <EriC^^> demahum: when it asks for the type or hexcode type 07
[13:18] <faLUCE> hello. Each time I see videos on firefox, especially on youtube, it sucks lot of CPU and makes the system slow. Is there an alternative for avoiding this problem?
[13:19] <EriC^^> faLUCE: are you using html5? i think that takes more resources than flash
[13:19] <faLUCE> EriC^^: how can I check that?
[13:19] <demahum> TJ-: Whole output? :o
[13:19] <auronandace> faLUCE: videos are always going to be resource intensive, downloading them may be better to view offline
[13:20] <faLUCE> EriC^^: just checked I use flash
[13:20] <faLUCE> auronandace: no, this is not a good solution
[13:20] <demahum> EriC^^: It does not ask about type or hexcode. :/
[13:20] <cfhowlett> faLUCE, also, pretty sure HD videos are more resource demanding than SD
[13:20] <EriC^^> demahum: did you press create a partition?
[13:20] <faLUCE> is there a standalone application for youtube?
[13:20] <TJ-> demahum: How about the last 2000 lines "pastebinit <( tail -n 2000 /var/log/kern.log)"
[13:20] <EriC^^> demahum: ah, you're right, ok press type after creating it
[13:21] <demahum> EriC^^: That's what I did.
[13:21] <EriC^^> demahum: ok, press write, then quit
[13:21] <demahum> EriC^^: But again there is no 07
[13:21] <demahum> EriC^^:
[13:21] <demahum> EriC^^: ok
[13:21] <EriC^^> demahum: np
[13:21] <demahum> EriC^^: done all
[13:22] <EriC^^> faLUCE: there is smtube
[13:22] <EriC^^> !info smtube
[13:22] <EriC^^> demahum: ok, type sudo partprobe
[13:22] <demahum> EriC^^: Done.
[13:23] <faLUCE> EriC^^: thanks. why the situation is so bad with common browsers?
[13:23] <EriC^^> demahum: type cat /proc/partitions | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:23] <EriC^^> faLUCE: no idea
[13:23] <demahum> EriC^^: use netcat? :D
[13:24] <EriC^^> demahum: hmm try again
[13:24] <demahum> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12590584/
[13:24] <demahum> EriC^^: Same. :/
[13:25] <EriC^^> demahum: ok, do you have pastebinit installed?
[13:25] <demahum> EriC^^: Yup.
[13:25] <EriC^^> demahum: ok, type pastebinit /proc/partitions
[13:25] <demahum> EriC^^: That was long.
[13:25] <demahum> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12590594/
[13:26] <EriC^^> demahum: ok, it sees it
[13:26] <EriC^^> which filesystem do you want to format it as?
[13:26] <EriC^^> fat32 ntfs?
[13:26] <demahum> EriC^^: I don't care at all. I just want to manipulate it normally as it was, without Windows.
[13:27] <demahum> EriC^^: ntfs is fine
[13:27] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo mkfs.ntfs /dev/mmcblk0p1
[13:28] <demahum> EriC^^: haha... with zeroes? :D
[13:28] <demahum> EriC^^: I hope so it will work.
[13:28] <demahum> EriC^^: I tried that with dd /dev/zero...
[13:28] <demahum> EriC^^: It didn't work.
[13:28] <demahum> EriC^^: But it is in progress now. :D
[13:28] <demahum> EriC^^: Althought reeeaalllyy slow...
[13:29] <EriC^^> ah ok, i think we should have used the -Q flag for a quick format
[13:29] <EriC^^> ..how slow? :D
[13:30] <EriC^^> i think you can press ctrl+c, then run the command again with -Q
[13:30] <demahum> EriC^^: hahhahaha
[13:30] <demahum> EriC^^: Definitely.
[13:30] <EriC^^> sudo mkfs.ntfs -Q /dev/mmcblk0p1
[13:30] <demahum> EriC^^: It was 8% up until now. :D
[13:31] <onyeije> hello
[13:32] <demahum> EriC^^: again sudo mkfs.ntfs -Q /dev/mmcblk0p1
[13:32] <demahum> EriC^^: sorry, again i/o error
[13:32] <demahum> onyeije: hello :)
[13:32] <EriC^^> demahum: hmm
[13:32] <EriC^^> demahum: i dunno much about that :S
[13:33] <cfhowlett> demahum, got an extra USB?
[13:33] <EriC^^> demahum: try the sudo mkfs.ntfs /dev/mmcblk0p1 again
[13:33] <EriC^^> and in the meantime maybe somebody knows more, might be worth pasting the output of dmesg | pastebinit
[13:33] <demahum> EriC^^: That's what I say... I have tried everything I have found. And it is always like that in Ubuntu. But just when I move to Windows, no problems. After that niether in Ubuntu. XD
[13:33]  * cfhowlett sees no fewer than 10 scatter ubuntu formatted startup USB's scattered his chair
[13:33] <demahum> cfhowlett: I do. A lot of them. :D
[13:34] <TJ-> demahum: The kern.log shows there's I/O errors
[13:34] <cfhowlett> demahum, just for fun: same process different stick ...
[13:34] <demahum> EriC^^: It is running...
[13:34] <demahum> cfhowlett: It's not stick, it's SD. And it will work, that's not problem. :D
[13:34] <demahum> cfhowlett: It will work with gparted. WIth everything.
[13:35] <TJ-> demahum: there's also kernel panics recorded
[13:35] <demahum> TJ-: haha
[13:35] <demahum> TJ-: That's not SD-related. I didn't noticed anything. :D
[13:35] <TJ-> demahum: "[13870.639002] mmc0: cannot verify signal voltage switch"
[13:35] <cfhowlett> 1
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !
[13:36] <cfhowlett> that ain't good ...
[13:36] <demahum> cfhowlett: I know. :/
[13:36] <TJ-> demahum: once the kernel hits that kind of issue all sorts of things can happen
[13:36] <demahum> It would be much less painful if I know it's broken. But it's not. :/
[13:37] <EriC^^> maybe it's broken but windows lets it slide
[13:37] <TJ-> demahum: also, that log appears to be recorded after several suspend/resume cycles. Does the issue occur from a cold boot?
[13:37] <demahum> TJ-: Yup.
[13:37] <demahum> TJ-: all the same.
[13:37] <TJ-> EriC^^: it'll be a driver issue; there's been a lot of churn with the various drivers
[13:37] <demahum> TJ-: suspend/resume is because of me. I do that often. :D
[13:38] <EriC^^> TJ-: oh, so it's a driver bug not a hardware thing?
[13:38] <TJ-> demahum: OK... suspend/resume can cause weirdness due to the ACPI and PCI config spaces not being restored correctly
[13:38] <TJ-> EriC^^: I'd bet 95%, driver issue. possibly requires a quirk/workaround. There may already be a known module param to use to fix this.
[13:39] <TJ-> demahum: did you pastebin the "lspci -nnk" output? If so, I missed it
[13:40] <demahum> TJ-: why pastebinit lspci -nnk returns "Unable to read from: lspci"
[13:40] <TJ-> demahum: did you pastebin the "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk)" output? If so, I missed it
[13:41] <TJ-> demahum: oops, ignore the text - that's the command  :)
[13:41] <demahum> TJ-: :D
[13:41] <demahum> TJ-: Thanks. :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/12590709/
[13:42] <TJ-> demahum: so looks like it'll be "02:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5229 PCI Express Card Reader [10ec:5229] (rev 01)"
[13:42] <demahum> TJ-: solution?
[13:42] <Linux4UnMe> demahum: use Windows :D
[13:43] <demahum> hahahhahaah
[13:43] <demahum> Pity he went. That's what I am trying to avoid all the time. :D
[13:43] <TJ-> demahum: which uses the 'rtsx_pci' module/driver. which release of Ubuntu is it ("lsb_release -r")? which kernel ("uanme -r)" ?
[13:43] <sf_> i have some problems installing mysql-server5.6 on ubuntu 14.04.3, i get the error with cups. Here is the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12589761/
[13:44] <demahum> TJ-: Man, I am not that dumb. I know the release and kernel. :D
[13:44] <marcv> Hello, just a quick question: in a package name, for instance "apache2-bin=2.4.7-1ubuntu4.5", what does the "ubuntu4.5" mean ?
[13:44] <demahum> TJ-: 15.04
[13:44] <TJ-> demahum: Right. But we don't!
[13:44] <demahum> TJ-: lsb_release -r
[13:44] <matthias_> sch
[13:44] <demahum> demahum: 3.19.0-28-generic
[13:44] <matthias_> deutsch
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> !de
[13:44] <demahum> TJ-: 3.19.0-28-generic
[13:44] <TJ-> demahum: the kernel is pretty old; there may be upstream fixes on that module
[13:45] <demahum> TJ-: hmmm...
[13:47] <demahum> Thanks to all whatsoever. :)
[13:48] <frolog> isnt /home/username/ and ~ the same thing?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> frolog  yes, but in some cases you have to use /home/user/
[13:49] <auronandace> frolog: some instances you need to use the full path name
[13:52] <TJ-> demahum: there's a lot of churn and changes in the rts* driver code; I think you should try a more recent kernel. Either Wily's v4.2 or an Ubuntu mainline build
[13:53] <jalavine> Can someone explain how cron sends email to a gmail account for example? what email server is it using?
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  have to say, my vivid instakllation (in vmware) has 3.19.0-28 too
[13:55] <inc0d3r> where to get help regarding RubyOnRails ??
[13:55] <TJ-> demahum: also: "modinfo -p rtsx_pci" ==> "msi_en:Enable MSI (bool)" - try disabling that "options rtsx_pci msi_en=0"
[13:56] <inc0d3r> RoR help anyone ??
[13:56] <TJ-> Too late, gone!
[14:00] <devendra> hi
[14:00] <bindi> http://sado1.blogspot.fi/2011/09/asus-xonar-dg-linux-users-impressions.html <- this guy in the comments says headphone amp for atleast Fedora 22 has been "solved". does this mean ALSA has added support for it? how can I know if Ubuntu will support it?
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> bindi  sure you're in the right channel? this is ubuntu support
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> oh, didnt see your last question
[14:03] <bindi> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-oxygen this doesnt say anything about an amplifier
[14:04] <auronandace> bindi: the url seems to be from 2011
[14:04] <bindi> auronandace: yes, but the comment is from 2015
[14:04] <bindi> I joined #alsa and asked that aswell, lets see if they can help me :P
[14:06] <auronandace> bindi: fedora does tend to be a lot more bleeding edge than ubuntu, maybe it is an update that simply hasn't filtered down yet
[14:07] <bindi> but I couldnt find anything about the headphone amp from that wiki or alsa.opensrc.org :<
[14:15] <Dwarf> Hey there ubuntu folks
[14:15] <volvieras> hi
[14:16] <Dwarf> How would I enable 256 colors in bash? I have /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm+256color, but not xterm-256color. They behave quite differently. I've got ncurses-term installed
[14:16] <Dwarf> I'm on 15.04
[14:17] <volvieras>  export TERM=xterm-256color
[14:17] <volvieras> i have that in my bashrc
[14:18] <Dwarf> I don't think that'd work as it's not listed
[14:18] <Dwarf> But eh, worth trying
[14:18] <volvieras> dont forget to resource
[14:18] <volvieras> i dunno worked for me, but i am no expert
[14:19] <Dwarf> Odd stuff
[14:19] <Dwarf> tput colors shows 256
[14:19] <volvieras> ?
[14:19] <Dwarf> Oh well
[14:19] <Dwarf> Now to let screen have 256 colors
[14:19] <volvieras> it worked?!?!
[14:20] <Dwarf> Yeah
[14:20] <volvieras> thats the first time ive helped someone on here :p
[14:20] <volvieras> w000t!
[14:20] <Dwarf> Did it hurt?
[14:20] <volvieras> a little
[14:20] <volvieras> i think im ubuntu guru now though
[14:23] <Dwarf> Ah, 256 colors in irssi
[14:23] <SergioEDuran1> Hi there
[14:23] <Dwarf> Like it should be
[14:23] <Dwarf> What up
[14:23] <auronandace> Dwarf: not to bash screen or irssi but have you tried tmux and weechat?
[14:24] <Dwarf> Works fine with export TERM='xterm-256color' in ~/.bashrc
[14:24] <Dwarf> Oddly putting it in /etc/profile did nothing for screen
[14:26] <rk> test
[14:26] <auronandace> !test | rk
[14:30] <sn0w3> Any geeks here ?
[14:30] <auronandace> !topic | sn0w3
[14:31] <guest153> hello people
[14:32] <Dwarf> Not a lot of questions here
[14:32] <Dwarf> Surprisingl
[14:32] <Dwarf> y
[14:32] <auronandace> Dwarf: sundays are generally slow days
[14:32] <teward> ^ that
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Dwarf,  it's Sunday
[14:33] <guest153> can someone tell me if my copy of ubuntu is official? when I run a Memory test it says ECC is of....
[14:34] <teward> guest153: how was it installed?
[14:34] <guest153> sorry=off
[14:34] <teward> guest153: also, not all ram is ECC
[14:34] <guest153> ok
[14:34] <ifahmyy> my-weather-indicator not work properly on ubuntu 14.4
[14:35] <Dwarf> Define "properly", ifahmyy
[14:35] <Dwarf> What version are you running?
[14:35] <guest153> I have DD2 RAM in lap top
[14:35] <Dwarf> ECC is mostly used in servers, guest153
[14:35] <ifahmyy> its stuck on the menu bar for awhile
[14:35] <teward> guest153: laptop RAM is non-ECC
[14:36] <guest153> ok
[14:36] <teward> guest153: ECC being off on laptop RAM is expected, because it's non-ECC RAM
[14:36] <guest153> so how do you check the authencity of the disc
[14:37] <auronandace> !md5 | guest153
[14:37] <teward> guest153: did you create the installer disk?
[14:37] <teward> because if so you check the MD5 sum of the .ISO you used
[14:37] <guest153> yes
[14:37] <teward> see the message from ubottu just now
[14:38] <guest153> yes I can never figure out how to check the sha..several disc
[14:38] <cfhowlett> read the link guest153 it's quite explanatory
[14:38] <teward> guest153: boot to the image, it should have some type of "Verify" option that will try and verify the disk integrity.  However, you really should read the links from Ubottu.
[14:38] <teward> first.
[14:40] <ifahmyy>  <Dwarf> still there?
[14:42] <guest153> ok, it says check disc for defects...ok,
[14:42] <guest153> some says disc is ok
[14:43] <auronandace> guest153: what made you suspect something was wrong?
[14:43] <guest153> but I still do not know how to check md 5 sum
[14:44] <auronandace> guest153: it's all there in the link
[14:45] <guest153> Well why I think something is wrong is I can never get a good update nor corrupt free downloads
[14:45] <auronandace> guest153: what do you mean by "good update"?
[14:48] <ifahmyy> solved
[14:48] <auronandace> !yay | ifahmyy
[14:49] <guest153> well right now I can not really explain nor send you all a paste bin...i am currently chatting with you all from a smart phone...I will try to log in from my pc...oh yeah when I download stuff from online I can not get any of the software to save to usb correctly
[14:49] <ifahmyy> what version of Ubuntu you're running ? do you just do updates ?
[14:50] <auronandace> guest153: so this isn't a normall ubuntu install? it is a live usb or persistant usb?
[14:51] <TJ-> guest153: I notice your connection is IPv6; could it be an issue with IPv6/IPv4 confusion due to partial DNS results?
[14:51] <auronandace> guest153: i've tried irc from a smartphone, it is quite frustrating to reply quickly
[14:51] <guest153> Well I have all the latest versions, xubuntu, ubuntu, edubuntu, kubuntu, etc.
[14:51] <AbM> m new to irc can any one tell me how to join a channel with address
[14:52] <auronandace> AbM: /join #nameofchannel
[14:52] <AbM> I know address and port only
[14:52] <auronandace> AbM: /join #freenode if you want basic help with irc
[14:52] <guest153> I really like tails but i can not get a authentic copy from online
[14:53] <ifahmyy> geust153 what the type of machine you're using ?
[14:54] <Kak> good morning
[14:54] <Kak> good morning
[14:54] <ifahmyy> its night here lol , anyway morning kak !
[14:55] <Kak> nice
[14:55] <Kak> may I ask something?
[14:55] <TJ-> !ask | Kak
[14:56] <Kak> ok
[14:56] <ifahmyy> go ahead without greetings kak !
[14:56] <Kak> how can I install the language package in ubuntu?
[14:56] <guest153> I have 1 acer laptop, 1 HP Desktop media center, and A very contrary Toshiba Laptop that want boot from disc
[14:56] <TJ-> Kak: which language?
[14:57] <Kak> spanish in this case
[14:57] <TJ-> !info language-pack-es | Kak
[14:59] <guest153> Why wont an older version of ubuntu from 2007 boot up anymo
[14:59] <guest153> anymore
[14:59] <TJ-> guest153: is it on older hardware too?
[15:00] <Kak> something's wrong, I remember that I had many languages installed. I even could change my keyboard language when I wanted
[15:00] <auronandace> guest153: any ubuntu release from 2007 has long since been unsupported
[15:01] <teward> guest153: if by 2007 you mean Feisty or Gutsy you shouldn't be using those - they're ancient and haven't been supported for a very very long time
[15:01] <TJ-> Kak: "dpkg -l 'language-pack*' " might help
[15:01] <Kak> ok
[15:06] <guest153> ok
[15:16] <seanthegeek> Does anyone have any idea why the windows 7 32 bit installer sees my KVM IDE HDD, but the 64 bit version does not?
[15:16] <auronandace> seanthegeek: best asked in ##windows
[15:18] <ivansimionato> io
[15:29] <stiv2k> what program can i use to do a surface read of a disk to test if it has failed
[15:30] <stiv2k> deep/lowlevel utility, deeper than fsck
[15:32] <realbigfish> Heya, does anyone know how I can check if a user has write permissions in a specific folder? I have a service running on my server which needs to have permissions in a specific folder (/home/ubuntu/) but the service process is owned by "nobody" and I don't know how to check if that user has write permissions in the folder.
[15:37] <dm_comp> hi, I need to install Grub2 on USB instead of HD. is this as simple as sudo grub-install /dev/sdb sudo update-grub?
[15:37] <dm_comp> and choose something else during installation
[15:44] <sennn> hi
[15:44] <EriC^^> hello
[15:45] <sennn> why no people talk here?
[15:45] <auronandace> sennn: this channel is for support issues
[15:45] <sennn> oh i known
[15:46] <dm_comp> sennn: I'm talking it's just nobody is listening ;)
[15:47] <sennn> dm_comp, oh
[15:48] <arthyre> telepathy help - googlegithub coding
[15:50] <OerHeks> dm_comp, there is a question on the installer/partition panel, where to put grub2, standard sda ..
[15:50] <jmadero> hi all - I had my samba server go down and now I'm having a doozy of a time getting the (really really basic) configuration to work againhttp://pastebin.com/MDin91MH
[15:50] <jmadero> when I try to mount on my client I get a permission denied - but I don't see how that's possible given that there is literally no protection on the share
[15:52] <dm_comp> OerHeks: thx. trying to get what i want in the virtualbox
[15:58] <lumalfat> sdf
[16:01] <dm_comp> OerHeks: I see it. THX!
[16:01] <OerHeks> have fun!
[16:05] <lee76> hi all, I have a really weird problem.  I just install a virtual box and imported an appliance,  All is well except in GUI when I click on activities I loose the mouse pointer.  Any idea why this happens.  Thanks
[16:05] <lee76> I'm using Ubuntu 15.04
[16:06] <Twirl> Hi, anyone knows how to find out why ubuntu takes ages to startup? windows is booting up really fast on the same machine
[16:06] <Twirl> i dont really feel like going through 30 pages of boot-logs tho :p
[16:06] <hypermist> that moment you do apt-get update
[16:06] <hypermist> and it starts downloading Translations
[16:06] <hypermist> >_>
[16:07] <hypermist> Thats what i dont want
[16:07] <hypermist> >_>
[16:07] <ly> ip
[16:07] <hypermist> and i can't goto bed till its done
[16:07] <hypermist> :(
[16:08] <tellendil> hello ! I'm trying to setup shared folder on a ubuntu server guest in vmware. I however can't get to have vmhgfs driver :/ any idea ? I installed open-vm-tools and open-vm-dkms... that's it
[16:09] <lee76> here is my error after typing the following:  sudo service lighdm restart.       Job for lightdm.service failed. See "systemctl status lightdm.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[16:10] <lee76> anyone know how I  should proceed?
[16:10] <auronandace> lee76: did you look at them for details?
[16:11] <lee76> auronandace:  no, how can I do that?  Sorry I'm a newbie
[16:11] <auronandace> lee76: type them in a terminal
[16:13] <lee76> under systemctl, I see lightdm.service            loaded failed failed    Light Display Manager
[16:13] <hypermist> So it says its downloading but its not cause its at 100%
[16:14] <hypermist> 100% [28 Translation-en 25.5 GB/25.5 GB 100%]
[16:14] <BluesKaj> ubuntu still uses lightdm, I thought sddm would be the default
[16:14] <hypermist> and its going up
[16:14] <hypermist> and i can't stop it XD
[16:14] <lee76> auronandace: under systemctl, I see lightdm.service            loaded failed failed    Light Display Manager
[16:15] <auronandace> lee76: sorry, i'm not much help with systemd, lightdm work fine for me
[16:17] <superlou> Successfully added a ppa (https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/flightgear-prerel), and am trying to install the "flightgear-data" package from it, but Ubuntu (Linux Mint 17.2) doesn't see it.  Is it a result of the version not being tagged with the Trusty distribution?  Is tehre a way to force the install?
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !mint | superlou, m
[16:17] <naveejuryas_> I am new to open source development, can anyone suggest me what to do.
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !contribute | naveejuryas_
[16:18] <superlou> ubottu, Will do. Thanks
[16:18] <cfhowlett> naveejuryas, translation is ALWAYS welcoe
[16:18] <superlou> cfhowlett, thanks
[16:18] <cfhowlett> *welcome*
[16:18] <cfhowlett> happy2help! Superdawg
[16:18] <cfhowlett> superlou
[16:18] <naveejuryas_> thankyou ubottu
[16:18] <ubuntu0110> So my ubuntu won't boot after an install. It successfully installed but now won't boot into it. So i'm sure i'm missing something.
[16:20] <auronandace> ubuntu0110: how far do you get?
[16:20] <ubuntu0110> So it installed successfully and then i reboot it. Loads into the gnugrub.
[16:21] <ubuntu0110> wants to know if i want to try ubuntu or install it
[16:22] <Twirl> Hi, anyone knows how make ubuntu startup faster? bc its taken 10 mins and more
[16:22] <Twirl> windows on the same disc is really fast
[16:22] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: did you remove the live usb?
[16:22] <cfhowlett> ubuntu0110, I suspect you're still booting from you installation media
[16:22] <ubuntu0110> Reboot and select propber boot device
[16:22] <ubuntu0110> is the error message i get now
[16:23] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: ok, did you choose the hdd in the bios?
[16:23] <EriC^^> is it first in the boot order?
[16:23] <ubuntu0110> yes
[16:24] <ubuntu0110> when i booted into the live environment you can tell it's installed. Not sure why it won't boot into ubuntu via the hard drive.
[16:24] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: ok, boot the live usb, select try ubuntu
[16:26] <teward> is there a known issue with usb-creator in 14.04 that would cause a 15.04 image to fail to boot right to the interface, but hitting 'enter' at said 'boot:' prompt will just boot as it should?
[16:26] <ubuntu0110> Eric^^ i'm in the the live usb.
[16:26] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:28] <ubuntu0110> invalid option -- '1'
[16:28] <EriC^^> small L
[16:29] <ubuntu0110> http://termbin.com/wo4p
[16:30] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[16:30] <EriC^^> does it exist?
[16:32] <naveejuryas_> hi
[16:35] <ubuntu0110> Eric^^ yes it does
[16:36] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: ok, you need to create a fat32 partition as an efi partition and install grub there
[16:36] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: are you familiar with mounting btrfs? cause i'm not
[16:37] <ubuntu0110> Eric^^ i'm a complete rookie so i guess the answer would be no.
[16:37] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: ok read with me then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs
[16:38] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: try sudo apt-get install btrfs-tools
[16:38] <ubuntu0110> okay installed
[16:38] <ubuntu0110> i believe mounting would be this command sudo mount -t btrfs /dev/sda2 /mnt
[16:38] <ubuntu0110> or something close to it.
[16:39] <EriC^^> ok, run that command
[16:39] <EriC^^> then run sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[16:40] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: ah wait, you need to create a fat32 partition
[16:41] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: how did you install ubuntu? did you use the manual partitioner?
[16:41] <ubuntu0110> yes i did
[16:41] <ubuntu0110> i created a 500mb /boot
[16:41] <ubuntu0110> and then 3tb /
[16:41] <ubuntu0110> installed to the 3tb drive.
[16:42] <auronandace> ubuntu0110: you mean the 1st of 4 3tb drives
[16:43] <ubuntu0110> yes that is correct
[16:43] <ubuntu0110> I am willing to go back to the start and try but i've been struggling for the last few days to get this darn ubuntu thing installed.
[16:44] <ubuntu0110> mount point /mnt/boot does not exist error message
[16:44] <auronandace> ubuntu0110: out of curiosity, what are you going to do with all that space?
[16:46] <ubuntu0110> set it up in a raid setup.
[16:46] <slimpickins> I want to customize my .desktop files so if I type "IDE" in the dash, it shows all my IDEs.... but what element in the .desktops sets the dash search terms?
[16:46] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: ok, set up a fat32 partition, 300mb in size and select it as the efi partition
[16:46] <slimpickins> I know comment is searchable, but is there a different one?
[16:46] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: also, you don't want swap?
[16:47] <ubuntu0110> i don't understand what swap would do for me?
[16:47] <EriC^^> if you don't have a lot of memory it will help you not run out of memory and if you want to hibernate you can hibernate
[16:47] <ubuntu0110> memory is the ram right? i have 16gb or ram.
[16:48] <ubuntu0110> i don't want to hibernate with this set up. It planned to be on 24/7
[16:48] <EriC^^> ok, that's enough, do you want to hibernate
[16:48] <EriC^^> ok
[16:49] <trism> slimpickins: Keywords?
[16:50] <slimpickins> trism: yeah, when I hit super key and start typing, it filters the dash. I'd like to type "IDE" and see all of my (dozen or so) ides
[16:50] <ubuntu0110> okay so eric^^ you want me to try and install ubuntu again then? Instead of doing 500mb ext2 /boot
[16:51] <cfhowlett> ext2?  default is ext4 ...
[16:51] <ubuntu0110> Create it as fat32 300mb and make it efi?
[16:51] <trism> slimpickins: no I mean the Keywords= entry in the .desktop file
[16:52] <trism> slimpickins: so Keywords=IDE;Somethingelse;
[16:52] <slimpickins> trism: ohhhhhh.... lol, I'm dim. Let me try that.
[16:53] <slimpickins> nailed it! thanks, trism!
[16:53] <trism> slimpickins: np
[16:54]  * arthyre muses not just dim but ugl.....
[16:54] <arthyre> ;)
[16:55] <arthyre> i wouldn't know if his web cam wasn't world viewable
[16:57] <ubuntu0110> Eric^^ so i have 298mb efi blank mount point. 500mb ext2 /boot mount point. 3tb btrfs / mount point.
[16:57] <EriC^^> ubuntu0110: ok
[16:57] <EriC^^> sounds good
[16:58] <unique_> hello room
[16:59] <Maurice__> have some partition problems, who can help me?
[16:59] <EriC^^> Maurice__: what's the problem?
[17:00] <Maurice__> ubuntu cannot  be installed on the ext4 formatted partition
[17:01] <EriC^^> why not?
[17:01] <Maurice__> it cannot see windows 10 I just installed, and want to erase that partition too
[17:02] <EriC^^> Maurice__: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:03] <mlvmhn> hello, whick terminal command updates VLC?
[17:03] <mlvmhn> which
[17:04] <k1l_> mlvmhn: general system updates
[17:04] <Maurice__> did type sudo prted -l
[17:04] <mlvmhn> well, i need them now, not tomorrow, my files will not play until VLC is updated
[17:04] <Maurice__> 4 partitions
[17:05] <k1l_> mlvmhn: please give more details: what ubuntu exactly? what vlc version do you need(want)
[17:05] <EriC^^> Maurice__: what's the link it gave?
[17:05] <mlvmhn> i run ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and i run VLC 2.1.6
[17:06] <k1l_> !info vlc
[17:06] <k1l_> !info vlc trusty
[17:06] <waldoe_420> Hey, wondering if anyone can help with a start up issue I have been having. 14.04 LTS on a ASUS k53t
[17:06] <unique_> hello room
[17:06] <k1l_> mlvmhn: that is the actual version that ubuntu ships in 14.04
[17:06] <mlvmhn> the latest vlc is 2.2.1
[17:07] <auronandace> unique_: need help with ubuntu?
[17:07] <k1l_> mlvmhn: so you need a 3rd party PPA or a 3rd party .deb file.
[17:07] <mlvmhn> how do i update to 2.2.1?
[17:08] <Maurice__> no link was given....
[17:08] <Maurice__> just 4 partitions
[17:08] <EriC^^> Maurice__: did you type the | nc termbin.com 9999 part?
[17:08] <mlvmhn> if i download it from the videolan homepage, how do i install it?
[17:08] <Maurice__> eeh no, have to find out how I type it in ubuntu tryout mode
[17:08] <k1l_> mlvmhn: just click on it
[17:09] <EriC^^> Maurice__: it's above enter usually
[17:10] <Maurice__> no, cannot find it, spanish keyboard
[17:11] <auronandace> Maurice__: you could just copy ad paste it from here into your terminal
[17:11] <Maurice__> I know, but I opened this on my other computer
[17:12] <Maurice__> is there an alternatice?
[17:12] <mlvmhn> doesnt work the software center tells me that i have the latest vlc version
[17:12] <k1l_> mlvmhn: "apt-cache policy vlc" in a pastebin please
[17:12] <mlvmhn> so; i need a command to update vlc in terminal, someone?
[17:12] <auronandace> Maurice__: look online to see where | is in the spanish keyboard layout
[17:12] <ioria> Maurice__   key 1 , at left ?
[17:13] <ioria> Maurice__   at right , sorry
[17:13] <Maurice__> will try
[17:13] <ioria> Maurice__   with altGr
[17:15] <Maurice__> nope, can login again via the same computer and then do the copy and paste
[17:15] <mlvmhn> mlvmhn@Mikael-HP-Compaq-8000-Elite-SFF-PC:~$ apt-cache policy vlc
[17:15] <mlvmhn> vlc:
[17:15] <mlvmhn>   Installed: 2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.1
[17:15] <mlvmhn>   Candidate: 2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.1
[17:15] <mlvmhn>   Version table:
[17:15] <mlvmhn>  *** 2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.1 0
[17:15] <ioria> Maurice__   can you install pastebinit ?
[17:16] <mlvmhn> well, i will ask somewhere else. this is pointless. thx for nothing
[17:17] <k1l_> mlvmhn: yes, you got the 2.1.6 that is officialy from ubuntu. so you need a 3rd party one. look for a PPA or get the .deb package
[17:18] <_SLM_> Hi. I installed a different version of conky for a few minutes, but I noticed a ugly black widget auto-starting that I could not disable in conky-manager so I removed that version of conky but after reinstalling the right conky-manager that ugly widget is still there. How do I remove it? I already cleared homedir's .conky folder to no effect
[17:19] <auronandace> _SLM_: ps aux | grep conky
[17:19] <auronandace> _SLM_: then kill that PID
[17:20] <_SLM_> yes, I did that but when I log back in to my account it auto-starts
[17:20] <auronandace> _SLM_: you must have it setup to do that then
[17:20] <_SLM_> I didn't
[17:20] <_SLM_> the other conky must have done it
[17:20] <_SLM_> some old setting somewhere
[17:21] <Techspectre> Can someone tell me how to completely remove all alternative DEs, window managers, etc. and return Unity to stock?
[17:21] <unique_> can anyone tell me why after an ubuntu install...I get my disk drive open but my screen does not have any writtern directions saying remove disc and press enter when done?
[17:21] <Ubuntu0110> Eric^^ Thank you for your help. It's working now. I guess that UEFI was needed.
[17:21] <auronandace> Ubuntu0110: uefi is a pain, glad you got it to work
[17:21] <EriC^^> Ubuntu0110: great, np
[17:23] <Maurice2> >Hi Eric, can you give me the command again thx
 just when I wanted to take a screenshot of it it automaticly disapeared... very weird. Hopefully it stays gone. :) Thanks for offering your help
[17:24] <auronandace> Maurice2: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:25] <Zixxorb> ok, i need help
[17:26] <auronandace> Zixxorb: then you need to describe the isuue
[17:26] <Zixxorb> well yeah, i just wasn't sure if there were anyone else on
[17:26] <Zixxorb> was*
[17:26] <unique_> >auronandace<<<can you scroll up and please answer my question?
[17:26] <Elimin8er> How can I compare 2 files, but with line/string by line/string. I want to know if File2 has anything new that File1 doesnt have, even if its not in order. ??
[17:27] <EriC^^> Elimin8er: you have to sort them first
[17:27] <Maurice2> http://termbin.com/uqmk
[17:27] <EriC^^> ( i think )
[17:27] <Zixxorb> anyways, I'm trying to get my older computer (running windows 2000) to boot ubuntu. however it wont boot 64 bit or 32 bit
[17:27] <auronandace> unique_: sounds like a graphics issue, but that is on the removable media after an install so bit of a non-issue really
[17:27] <EriC^^> Elimin8er: then you can use comm to see what file2 has that file1 doesnt
[17:28] <Zixxorb> always says "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER"
[17:28] <EriC^^> Maurice2: ok, when you click install ubuntu, can you go to Something else?
[17:28] <auronandace> Zixxorb: you need a non-pae enabled kernel for older systems
[17:28] <Maurice2> yes
[17:28] <Zixxorb> what's that?
[17:28] <auronandace> !pae | Zixxorb
[17:29] <EriC^^> Maurice2: ok, make a fresh partition table there if you want to reinstall ubuntu and erase windows
[17:29] <auronandace> Zixxorb: pae has been enabled by default for several years now
[17:29] <Zixxorb> well i think my issue is that it wont boot the cd or dvd (either one) whether it be ubuntu 64 or 32
[17:29] <witm55> Zixxorb, although the PAE will only bring you so far... if you have more RAM than 4 GB, I strongly suggest installing a 64-bit OS.
[17:30] <Elimin8er> EriC^^, Ill take a look into that.. thanks man.. I never even knew about Comm before..
[17:30] <Maurice2> I want to keep windows 10 and have ubuntu on sd3
[17:30] <Zixxorb> and i dont have floppy disks to boot from
[17:30] <ioria> Maurice2, did you have windows8 , before ?
[17:30] <witm55> Zixxorb, that means your computer is not looking on your media to boot from, or that media is missing the boot sector.
[17:31] <Maurice2> no windows 7 starter, and I upgraded to 10
[17:31] <EriC^^> Elimin8er: no problem
[17:31] <witm55> Zixxorb, you can use easy installer and the ubuntu-iso to generate a bootable USB memory stick.
[17:31] <EriC^^> Maurice2: ubuntu is already installed on sda3
[17:32] <Zixxorb> well i have it set to boot from the cd drive in bios and itll boot from only one cd that i have that i had to make to reset the password. also, i dont think itll boot from usb since theres no option in bios to boot from usb
[17:32] <Maurice2> no, i formatted that partion to ext4 when it did not work
[17:32] <Maurice2> and added an swap partition
[17:32] <EriC^^> Maurice2: oh ok, so in the installer, when you go to Something else, do you see the windows partition there?
[17:33] <Maurice2> yes, as windows recovery
[17:33] <Zixxorb> i even have ubuntu on an external hardrive and it wont boot that either
[17:33] <Maurice2> added a boot flag on that partition too
[17:35] <EriC^^> Maurice2: ok, when you create the ext4 in Something else, select the ext4 one and choose the mountpoint at "/"
[17:35] <Zixxorb> idk what the deal is, ive tried everything i can think of
[17:36] <Maurice2> did that already....
[17:36] <EriC^^> Maurice2: and select the swap and choose the type as swap
[17:36] <EriC^^> Maurice2: ok, when you installed what happened?
[17:36] <Maurice2> nothing....
[17:36] <EriC^^> you said first it didn't see windows and you wanted to erase windows completely..
[17:36] <Maurice2> still the same message
[17:36] <EriC^^> what msg?
[17:36] <auronandace> Zixxorb: your computer is too old to boot with modern day kernel because the cpu does not support PAE
[17:37] <Zixxorb> ok, how can i fix that?
[17:37] <Maurice2> have to translate that...
[17:37] <Zixxorb> or can i?
[17:37] <tgm4883> auronandace: don't they get an error regarding PAE if that's the case?
[17:37] <auronandace> Zixxorb: you need to use a kernel that does not have PAE enabled bydefault
[17:38] <Zixxorb> windows 2000 isnt much use and i cant even get it to be used as a server
[17:39] <phablet> hello world
[17:39] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: you could try installing the 32bit version of lubuntu or xubuntu 12.04
[17:39] <Zixxorb> @auronandance can i install a kernel on that computer that'll let it boot?
[17:39] <Maurice__> when I go to ubuntu installer, it chooses, erase whole disk
[17:39] <tgm4883> neither of those require PAE
[17:39] <Maurice__> then I choose something else
[17:40] <auronandace> tgm4883: not sure sorry, been quite a while since i encountered it but itis an educated guess since he can't boot from usb and it was running win2k
[17:40] <Zixxorb> @tgm4883 i tried damn small linux a while ago and it didnt work. ill look into those
[17:40] <tgm4883> auronandace: honestly, it just looks like the disk wasn't created properly
[17:40] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: what type of computer is this?
[17:40] <Maurice__> no root file system is defined
[17:41] <EriC^^> Maurice__: ok, select the ext4 and choose the mountpoint at "/"
[17:41] <tgm4883> auronandace: now it's possible that is the case (no PAE support), but he would get the boot menu first anyway
[17:41] <Zixxorb> tbh, idk. my friend gave it to me because he had no use for it. i dont even see a brand sticker unfortunetly
[17:42] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: hmm ok, how did you create the CD/DVD?
[17:42] <Maurice__> I do not have that option.....
[17:42] <Maurice__> only the option use as:
[17:42] <Maurice__> ext4 journaling file system.... etc.
[17:43] <Zixxorb> burned the ubuntu iso to cd (have tried both 32 and 64 bit, and cd and dvd) with windows 7 built in disc burner (from my laptop)
[17:44] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: and I just want to confirm, you aren't even getting the boot menu when you try to boot from that CD?
[17:44] <Zixxorb> no. i can get into bios and regular windows 2000 but it won't boot from the cd aat all
[17:45] <Zixxorb> at*
[17:45] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: so it goes straight from the bios stuff to that error message?
[17:46] <auronandace> Zixxorb: maybe the cd drive doesn't like the brand of disk you are using or is broke
[17:46] <Zixxorb> when i start it up i have it set to boot from the cd only unless no cd. so it "tries" but wont boot from the cd
[17:47] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: ok, can you pop the CD in your windows 7 box and take a screenshot of the contents of the disk?
[17:47] <Zixxorb> ive tried different brands, thinking the same thing. and itll read another disc i have to boot from to reset the passwords just wont boot ubuntu 32, 64, or even centOS 6
[17:49] <Maurice__> Hey Eric, still thinking or giving it up ;)
[17:50] <Zixxorb> um, how are u going to see it? want me to upload it to imgar or mediafire or something?
[17:50] <EriC^^> Maurice__: you should have it, try to delete the partition then recreate it
[17:50] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: yea
[17:50] <EriC^^> should be the last option at the bottom
[17:50] <frolog> how do i check if im on x86 or x64? is x86 32 bit?
[17:51] <Maurice__> tried that too already
[17:51] <Maurice__> but before I put a boot flag
[17:51] <Maurice__> I can try that
[17:51] <EriC^^> Maurice__: it should look something like this http://i.stack.imgur.com/5JkQX.png
[17:51] <Zixxorb> ok http://imgur.com/gqGRxm6
[17:52] <tgm4883> frolog: 'uname -a' would tell you what kernel you are runing. x86 would be 32-bit, x86_64 would be 64bit
[17:52] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: looks good to me. When you boot win200 on that box, can you transfer files to it?
[17:53] <Zixxorb> yeah, i have a portable harddrive and flash drives
[17:53] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: can you fire up something like cpu-z on it and get us the processor info
[17:54] <Zixxorb> yeah, give me a few
[17:54] <wakeatnight> hi, I want to install a 4.x realtime kernel in ubuntu 15.04 for audio production. what
[17:54] <wakeatnight> s the best way? thank you
[17:54] <wxl> hey kids. having some bluetooth problems. Skullcandy Hesh 2 headset on Trusty. A2DP (Audio Sink) works great, but trying to connect to Headset Service or switching the audio profile to HSP/HFP fails. googling's not helping much. anyone have advice to offer?
[17:55] <Zixxorb> its slow so itll be a few
[17:55] <EriC^^> Maurice__: boot flag doesn't matter, you need to set the mountpoint so the installer knows which partition is the root partition
[17:58] <Maurice__> Hey Eric, it works!
[17:58] <Maurice__> hope afterwards that grub recognizes windows10
[17:58] <EriC^^> Maurice__: great
[17:58] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:58] <Maurice__> thx!!!
[17:58] <EriC^^> np
[18:04] <Zixxorb> ok do u want a screen shot or just give u the specs, that computers not currently connected to the internet
[18:05] <Zixxorb> oops hit the power button with my foot XD just a sec
[18:05] <Zixxorb> lol
[18:06] <arthyre> cut them toenails?
[18:07] <Zixxorb> XD no just was repostioning on my bed and accidently hit the power button
[18:07] <wakeatnight> I want to install a 4.x realtime kernel in ubuntu 15.04 for audio production. whats the best way?
[18:07] <Bashing-om> !ubuntustudio
[18:08] <Bashing-om> wakeatnight: Consider installing ? ^^
[18:08] <wakeatnight> Bashing-om can I install the kernel from that but keep vanilla Ubuntu?
[18:09] <Bashing-om> wakeatnight: One can install anything . .. But that will not install all the supporting software and utilities .
[18:10] <wakeatnight> i would get the other packages from kxstudio ppa
[18:12] <mohab> hi all
[18:13] <mohab> is there script allow me to share internet with smart phones ??
[18:13] <Zixxorb> ok cpu-z is running
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[18:14] <Zixxorb> marlinc: try pdanet (not sure if theres a linux version tho but i beleive there is)
[18:14] <Zixxorb> mohab*
[18:14] <mohab> ??
[18:15] <Bashing-om> wakeatnight: Look'n to see what I can find to suit your needs .
[18:15] <wakeatnight> thank you Bashing-om!
[18:15] <Zixxorb> mohab http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1351548&page=2
[18:16] <mohab> thanx Zixxorb
[18:16] <Zixxorb> anyways tgm4883 what all info did u need?
[18:16] <Zixxorb> mohab welcome
[18:17] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: what cpu model number
[18:17] <Yazan> how to install firefox in ubuntu?
[18:18] <Zixxorb> cpu: AMD Athlon XP
[18:18] <tgm4883> Yazan: it's installed by default
[18:18] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: which one?
[18:18] <Yazan> i remove it
[18:18] <tgm4883> Yazan: why?
[18:18] <Yazan> please help
[18:18] <Zixxorb> specification: AMD Althlon(tm) XP 1800+
[18:18] <Zixxorb> code name: throughbred
[18:19] <Zixxorb> package: Socket A (462)
[18:19] <ioria> Zixxorb, and what distro would you like to rinstall ?
[18:19] <Yazan> tgm4883,  how ??
[18:19] <ioria> *install
[18:19] <Yazan> please
[18:19] <tgm4883> Yazan: go to the command line and do 'apt-get install firefox'
[18:19] <Zixxorb> ioria im trying to install ubuntu but my computer wont boot the disc
[18:19] <Yazan> tgm4883, thank you very much :D
[18:20] <ioria> Zixxorb, i don't think it'a a good idea
[18:20] <Zixxorb> well almost anything is better then its cuurent os (windows 2000)
[18:21] <ioria> Zixxorb, try lubuntu alternate http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/
[18:21] <unique_> auronandance<<< can you read a paste bin for me please?
[18:21] <ioria> Zixxorb, no, better 14.04
[18:21] <Zixxorb> i downloaded the latest lubuntu a few mins ago but havent tried it yet
[18:21] <nehafin> hello everyone
[18:22] <ioria> Zixxorb, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[18:22] <tgm4883> ioria: that processor supports pae, so he isn't limited to 12.04
[18:22] <ioria> tgm4883, yep
[18:22] <Bashing-om> wakeatnight: See; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel . Looks like it will answer all .
[18:23] <Zixxorb> i downloaded 32 bit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS
[18:23] <ioria> Zixxorb, cd or dvd ?
[18:24] <Zixxorb> i havent burned it yet. fixing to on a cd
[18:24] <ioria> Zixxorb, ok
[18:24] <Zixxorb> cd-r 700mb
[18:24] <unique_> can someone here check out a pastebin for me please? http://pastebin.com/VXLtC05K
[18:25] <Zixxorb> crap that doesnt fit on a cd XD
[18:25] <tgm4883> 700 should fit on a cd I think
[18:26] <Bashing-om> Zixxorb: Last time I -tried - to burn Lubuntu to CD, the expansion was 6 bytes to big to fit on a 700Mb CD . :(
[18:26] <Zixxorb> windows says no
[18:26] <ioria> 683 mb
[18:27] <Zixxorb> damn, i think im out of dvds.....
[18:27] <ioria> lubuntu-alternate is 612mb    ...
[18:28] <Zixxorb> hmmm found one, just needs formatting...just a sec
[18:28] <Bashing-om> Zixxorb: If I amy, for testing only, burn the minimal to CD ?
[18:28] <ioria> Bashing-om, seems no internet connection...
[18:29] <Bashing-om> ioria: ^ That do put a cramp in our style .
[18:29] <Zixxorb> welp, appently iformatted that disc for videos a while back... crap
[18:29] <garyint> hi
[18:29] <garyint> I'm new here
[18:30] <buzain> garyint: welcome
[18:31] <Zixxorb> heyo
[18:32] <garyint> thanks
[18:32] <garyint> someone uses crunchbangplusplus here?
[18:33] <ioria> Zixxorb, if the pc is very old, and the bios is not updated it's possible that it does't allow you to boot a dvd (only cd)
[18:33] <Zixxorb> see, i thought of that and it didnt work either
[18:34] <tgm4883> Are we sure it's even a DVD drive?
[18:34] <ioria> ^_^
[18:34] <arthyre> lol
[18:34] <wakeatnight> lightdm complains that it cant create user data directory...
[18:35] <wakeatnight> i created the folder but now it conplains about chown
[18:35] <wakeatnight> who should own that folder?
[18:35] <Zixxorb> im pretty sure it is
[18:35] <wakeatnight> root/user both didnT work
[18:35] <ioria> Zixxorb, in meanwhile download the alternate iso 32 bit of lubuntu 14.04
[18:36] <Zixxorb> under My Computer it says Compact Disc (D:).......so i guess its not?
[18:36] <ioria> Zixxorb, we're taliking about the target machine...
[18:36] <Zixxorb> yes i am too
[18:36] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: I'm not sure I would trust that in windows 2000. I'd want the drive model number
[18:37] <Zixxorb> tgm4883 where can i find that?
[18:37] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: in device manager
[18:38] <Zixxorb> no device manager option in control panel x.x
[18:38] <Bashing-om> wakeatnight: What release and Desktop environment ( again) and the path- file ;and I will check permissions for the file .
[18:38] <wakeatnight> its ubuntu gnome 15.04 its about /var/lib/lightdm-data/USER
[18:38] <Zixxorb> *sighs* im really considering just taking this pc to the dump or something cuz windows 2000 does me no good
[18:38] <wakeatnight> maybe even whole lightdm-data
[18:39] <ioria> Zixxorb, i'd use a cd...
[18:39] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: what are your intentions for this compute?
[18:39] <tgm4883> i'd try a CD too
[18:40] <Zixxorb> tbh, id like to use it as a network computer for backups or something. maybe "try" to run a server for tf2 or minecraft for a few friends. or maybe even as a media center
[18:41] <ioria> Zixxorb, you can use a socket 462 as an office workstation
[18:42] <Zixxorb> ioria, what do u mean?
[18:43] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: ok well media center isn't going to happen. You could make it work, but would be disappointed. Vanilla minecraft would work, maybe even a  few mods, but anything more you'll have super laggy issues. I'm thinking that a TF2 server is also out of the question for the same reason. You could use it for backups, but unless you've got raid in there, I'm
[18:43] <tgm4883> not sure I'd trust a 15 year old box with my backups
[18:44] <Zixxorb> so its pretty much useless, like i figured
[18:44] <ioria> Zixxorb, word, spreedsheet , surfing,  at. etc ...
[18:44] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: yea probably
[18:44] <Bashing-om> wakeatnight: drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 Sep 21 13:23 lightdm-data ; >> drwxrwx---  2   119  129 4096 Sep 21 13:23 lightdm ; drwxrwx---  2 sysop  129 4096 May 16 12:50 sysop15 . Where I am sysop and the target system host name is sysop15 .
[18:45] <Zixxorb> heck, it barely runs firefox
[18:45] <wakeatnight> ah thanks
[18:45] <ioria> Zixxorb, then, use midori
[18:45] <Zixxorb> had to find old versions of firefox to even try with
[18:45] <tgm4883> Zixxorb: definitely not worth the hassle in my opinion. You'd probably get better results from a raspberry pi 2
[18:45] <Zixxorb> XD im actually thinking of buying a pi soon
[18:46] <Zixxorb> my only issue with the pi 2 is hdmi since i dont have any screens that use hdmi besides my laptop and thats not hdmi in
[18:49] <Zixxorb> meh, anyone want a free windows 2000 pc (just pay shipping)
[18:49] <compdoc> try recycle-R-us
[18:50] <ioria> Zixxorb, try the alternate iso cd, first ....
[18:50] <Zixxorb> this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[18:51] <ioria> Zixxorb, do you have network connection on the machine  ?
[18:51] <Zixxorb> not at the moment
[18:51] <ioria> Zixxorb, no, you can't ... mini is a net-install
[18:52] <Zixxorb> oh um....just a sec
[18:52] <ioria> Zixxorb, it requires an internet connection
[18:52] <kopple> hello, using Xubuntu here I keep getting OpenDNS network filtering errors and my ISP says it is not their DNS service so they suggested that I made sure it wasn't my very OS. Does Ubuntu (or Xubuntu) ship with OpenDNS pre-configured or is there a way I can see if I'm using OpenDNS in the first place? Most websites that have media on them, or proxies and alike are blocked in the browser. I get redirected to a "block.opendsn.com" domain with "This domain is 
[18:52] <Zixxorb> this one? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO/14.04.1
[18:53] <ioria> Zixxorb, yes, also here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/      spot alternate
[18:53] <Zixxorb> ok
[18:53] <ioria> Zixxorb, 32-bit
[18:53] <Zixxorb> downloading
[18:54] <Zixxorb> 5 mins to download x.x
[18:54] <ioria> Zixxorb, be sure the cd is a 'good' cd...
[18:54] <Zixxorb> its a brand new one so itll be good
[18:55] <BluesKaj> kopple,  afaik opendns is not default on ubuntu
[18:56] <kopple> I checked the connection settings and OpenDNS IPs were inserted.. I don't think I did it but can't be 100% sure
[18:57] <BluesKaj> kopple,  perhaps someone with access to your gateway may have added opendns addresses to it's settings
[18:58] <kopple> gateway could be the router itself?
[18:58] <lelbo_> Bonsoir, Je possède un macbook (retina) sans lecteur cd, et sans usb (seul de type c) et j aimerais installer mon système a partir de disque dur interne. J'ai deja partironner mon disque, copier l'iso mais en vain. (tester avec unebootin, l utilitaire mac, fdisk....) auriez vous une idée merci
[18:58] <BluesKaj> kopple yes
[18:58] <Zixxorb> burning
[18:58] <TJ-> kopple: PC DNS server name-serers come from the local DHCP server, usually on the local router/gaetway device, unless the PC is using manual, static, IP settings
[18:59] <kopple> TJ- thanks, with a public static IP I would get DNS from a different source than my gateway?
[18:59] <lelbo_> Hello world! how to install distri on Macbook(2015) withou cd or usb  just hardrive.  Tank you
[18:59] <kopple> BluesKaj: I'm using a new aerial for my connection that I was given by the ISP but it is third-party, maybe it has OpenDNS pre-installed?
[18:59] <kopple> pre-configured*
[18:59] <TJ-> kopple: The PC has a public static IP?
[19:00] <kopple> TJ- no it is a dynamic one
[19:00] <stenchfoot> kopple: static
[19:00] <kopple> stenchfoot you can avoid insulting in pvt
[19:01] <stenchfoot> TJ-: first right answer. BluesKaj tried
[19:01] <BBLLCC> so, if the charger marker of my laptop states that the battery is 96% charged, and its been so for the last 3 hours (cable is connected), does that mean memory effect is kicking in? this is a li-ion battery
[19:01] <TJ-> kopple: Usually the local gateway/router has a DNS proxy configured. It either has its upstream name-servers set manually via admin, or gets them from the ISP via PPP/DHCP when connecting to the ISP. In that sscenario the local devices then use the gateway/router IP address for their DNS name-server
[19:02] <Ziggurat> Trying to patch my kernel, I get malformed patch at line 6 with this patch https://lkml.org/lkml/diff/2015/7/13/729/1 Anyone know what to do?
[19:02] <TJ-> kopple: either way, what I think you need to hear is "check the gateway/router DNS settings"
[19:02] <kopple> TJ- thank you, it's definitely not the OS fault. It happened on Mint as well..
[19:02] <BluesKaj> stre` perhaps you could help rather than being an annoyance, if you know who's right and who's wrong for real , prove it.
[19:03] <kopple> Tj thanks a lot!
[19:03] <kopple> stenchfoot is sending me abusive messages in pvt
[19:03] <stenchfoot> kopple: trying to help u. Not abusive
[19:03] <BluesKaj> stenchfoot,  perhaps you could help rather than being an annoyance, if you know who's right and who's wrong for real , prove it.
[19:04] <kopple> really? and where do insults and coc*s help me?
[19:04] <BluesKaj> kopple,  time foir the ignore option I think
[19:04] <kopple> oh right, thank you
[19:05] <stenchfoot> Okay you kopple I will
[19:05] <Hamas_Qassam> hi
[19:05] <Zixxorb> damnit, that didnt work either guys
[19:06] <ioria> Zixxorb, you don't even get the boot-menu ?
[19:06] <stenchfoot> Zixxorb: it's the way u made the USB
[19:06] <Mirodroid> is anyone else having some issues with some ncurses programs showing up with garabge?
[19:06] <Zixxorb> no. jusT DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER
[19:07] <Zixxorb> stenchfoot: no, im not using usb
[19:07] <stenchfoot> Sell
[19:07] <EriC^^> Zixxorb: how old is the pc?
[19:07] <Zixxorb> running windows 2000
[19:07] <EriC^^> so the pc is from 2000 or less?
[19:07] <Zixxorb> id say
[19:08] <Stan_Smith> how do I specify a vlan in the interfacesfile?
[19:08] <stenchfoot> Stan_Smith: edut
[19:08] <ioria> Zixxorb, try a couple of times...  or download  Active iso burner and do the cd again
[19:08] <TJ-> Zixxorb: do you know the make/model of the motherboard, or the PC maker/model ?
[19:09] <Zixxorb> ioria everytime i press enter i get the same message
[19:09] <TJ-> Zixxorb: back around then the system BIOS were not as functional as they are now, with regard to boot devices and options
[19:09] <ioria> Zixxorb, enter ?
[19:09] <stenchfoot> Zixxorb: disable safe mode in bios
[19:10] <ioria> Zixxorb, ah... ok
[19:10] <stenchfoot> Stan_Smith: you insulted me in PM
[19:10] <Zixxorb> ioria i have it set in bios to only boot from cddrive and when it tries i get that error with almost every disk
[19:10] <Stan_Smith> stenchfoot, lol. you wish my friend
[19:10] <ioria> Zixxorb, i see...
[19:10] <bazhang> stenchfoot, cut out the nonsense
[19:11] <Zixxorb> ioria yeah idk what the deal is
[19:11] <stenchfoot> Zixxorb: did you disable uefi mode in bios
[19:11] <ioria> Zixxorb, maybe some settings in bios... regarding security or antivirus...
[19:11] <TJ-> Zixxorb: do you have another bootable disk with, say, Windows 2000, on it, to test the drive is actually able to boot *any* disk?
[19:11] <stenchfoot> Zixxorb: sometimes done by enabling legacy mode in bios
[19:11] <Zixxorb> stenchfoot wheres that located?
[19:12] <TJ-> Zixxorb: BIOS that old could only boot optical media using ISO9660 El Torito boot specification
[19:12] <Zixxorb> TJ- it boots a cd i have with a password resetter on it
[19:12] <ioria> Zixxorb, i don't think you have hat option....
[19:12] <ioria> *that
[19:12] <EriC^^> Zixxorb: you don't have uefi cause uefi came in around 2004
[19:12] <Zixxorb> ioria idk
[19:12] <TJ-> Zixxorb: Fab :) That confirms the drive works.
[19:12] <Zixxorb> yeah, itll "see" the discs but not boot
[19:13] <TJ-> Zixxorb: I meant that the BIOS/drive can read/boot optical discs still
[19:13] <ioria> Zixxorb, do the cd again with another program, maybe
[19:13] <Zixxorb> TJ- yes it can read them but not boot
[19:15] <stenchfoot> Zixxorb: is the disk x86 or x64
[19:15] <TJ-> Zixxorb: Zixxorb OK, so we could have an problem with the modern hybrid ISO images, not working with El Torito mode for older BIOS, or there could be a problem with image on the disc. Do you have access to another more powerful (Linux) PC where you could test the CD in a virtual machine?
[19:15] <stenchfoot> Zixxorb: is the disk x86 or x64
[19:16] <kopple> can I override my gateway DNS in Ubuntu? I manually changed the server IPs but I still have this OpenDNS filter issue...
[19:16] <kopple> I restarted the connection too
[19:16] <kopple> maybe I need to do something like the windows flushdns?
[19:17] <stenchfoot> Zixxorb: is your computer a x64 or 32 bit and what ISO did you use
[19:17] <TJ-> kopple: it may need the gateway/router restarting to use the new settings.
[19:17] <Zixxorb> i downloaded 32 bit alternate lubuntu a while ago and that doesnt work. neither does 32 bit ubuntu. and i only have my laptop running windows 7 but i have ubuntu on my external harddrive but im not sure my laptop can run a vm
[19:17] <kopple> TJ. I will try immediately
[19:18] <stenchfoot> Zixxorb: can you test the DVD on another PC
[19:18] <TJ-> Zixxorb: OK, lets keep that option as an emergency back-up if nothing else works
[19:18] <Zixxorb> the cd is fine. its brand new and i just burned it
[19:18] <ioria> Zixxorb, do you have a windows cd,  like Xp or such ?
[19:19] <Zixxorb> no
[19:19] <stenchfoot> Zixxorb: can you test it in a virtual pc like virtualbox
[19:19] <TJ-> Zixxorb: that is never the correct answer though; optical writers have a terrible reputation for creating 'coasters' (mug mats)
[19:19] <kopple1> TJ-: it worked :) thank you kindly
[19:20] <Zixxorb> stenchfoot: i only have my laptop and im not sure itll run a vm well
[19:20] <TJ-> ioria: Zixxorb said the PC in question will "boot a cd I have with a password resetter on it"
[19:20] <Bashing-om> Zixxorb: Have you verified the .iso(s) ? http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows .
[19:20] <Zixxorb> Bashing-om i just downloaded it. the iso is fine
[19:21] <TJ-> Zixxorb: just to be 100% sure, can you try booting your more modern laptop using the CD just to prove it will boot, then come back?
[19:21] <Zixxorb> meh i can but im not sure what thatd accomplish.
[19:22] <TJ-> Zixxorb: it confirms that we're not wasting our time when the media is corrupted
[19:22] <ioria> Tj-  those cd's are a bit different , i think
[19:22] <wzInPS> hello! i want to install ubuntu on my main desktop and im between 14.04.03 LTS and 15.04, what do you guys suggest?
[19:22] <Zixxorb> ok....brb
[19:22] <wzInPS> is 15.04 going to be a bad choice after 15.10?
[19:22] <TJ-> ioria: Yes, but the issue I wanted to be sure of was this ancient PC supports BIOS/El Torito boot and it is positively enabled
[19:22] <ioria> Tj-  like Ophcrack.... and stuff
[19:23] <ioria> Tj-  i see
[19:23] <TJ-> ioria: if Zixxorb can also boot his current laptop with the CD, we can be sure the image isn't corrupted (at least in the boot-loader)
[19:23] <ioria> Tj-  right
[19:24] <TJ-> ioria: I'm leaning towards the problem being the ISO image's boot-loader block size. I fixed an issue a couple years ago where the sector size was being assumed and was wrong, causing discs to fail to boot in El Torito mode
[19:24] <Bashing-om> wzInPS: 14,04.3 is a Long Term Support release, support 'til April of 2019,
[19:24] <guntbert> wzInPS: thats a question of opinion/personal preference - On my desktop I keep to the current version
[19:25] <kopple1> wzinPS maybe you're concerned about security or hardware compatibility? You get both from either one
[19:25] <ioria> Tj-   ok
[19:25] <wzInPS> yea, i think 14.04.3 would be good cuz of LTS...but if i install 15.04 i'll be ok after 15.10?
[19:25] <TJ-> ioria: because most of us use USB and fixed-disk boot protocol, those issues can sneak into the images and affect older BIOSes that don't have workarounds
[19:26] <kopple1> wzinPS okay meaning?
[19:26] <ioria> Tj-  i was thinking also at the iso-burner software in use ...
[19:27] <ioria> TJ-  i was thinking also at the iso-burner software in use ...
[19:27] <TJ-> ioria: Yes, me too, hence the test with the other more modern laptop
[19:27] <Bashing-om> wzInPS: Release 15.04 goes EOL this upcoming January . Then is the short term release 15.10 .
[19:27] <wzInPS> kopple1: i dont know...15.04 after 9 months means outdated?
[19:28] <TJ-> wzInPS: best forward thinking options are 14.04 > 16.04 or 15.10 (in Beta right now) > 16.04
[19:28] <Augustas> Hello, trying to restore my backup with ubuntu backup program (deja-dup), but while doing that my system do logout. I heard that is because need root access? I trying deja-dup --restore
[19:28] <Augustas> , this will work? Or i need do something else? Ubuntu 14.04
[19:28] <Zixxorb> discs fine
[19:29] <TJ-> Zixxorb: great, that helps us tremendously because we can rely on it
[19:29] <ioria> Zixxorb, does it boot ?
[19:29] <Zixxorb> on my laptop, yees
[19:29] <ioria> Zixxorb, bios, then
[19:29] <kopple1> wzinPS: if I'm correct you'll have to update to a newer version from 15.04 and that sometimes causes issues, while shifting to a brand new 15.10 (October release) is painless. But I'm no expert at all
[19:30] <TJ-> Zixxorb: so, this points to an incompatibility between the ancient PC's BIOS El Torito boot spec support, and the ISO image
[19:30] <Zixxorb> tj- how can that be fixed or can it be?
[19:30] <Augustas> how to fix my problem?
[19:31] <TJ-> Zixxorb: Can't be fixed easily, locally for you at least. To fix would need a developer have access to the ancient PC to diagnose the cause using specialist tools.
[19:31] <kopple1> augustas if you're correct and it's a permission problem try "gksudo deja-dup" in the terminal...
[19:31] <ioria> Zixxorb, a little step back with 12.04 ? :-)
[19:31] <Zixxorb> shit
[19:31] <Zixxorb> ioria what?
[19:31] <rgarrigue> Hi guys
[19:31] <ioria> Zixxorb, you can try lubuntu 12.04
[19:31] <rgarrigue> I plugged my android smartphone, anyone can tell me were it's mounted ?
[19:32] <Zixxorb> that was 12.04 i beleive, just the alternate
[19:32] <wzInPS> TJ- , kopple1 : so i think im going 14.04.3 (-> 16.04)...is 15.04 worth much more than 14.04.3?
[19:32] <ioria> Zixxorb, no, 14.04
[19:32] <rgarrigue> can't find it although I made a updatedb/locate on a specific file there
[19:32] <kopple1> rgarrigue maybe it's not mounted yet, but if it was go check in /media/username
[19:32] <Zixxorb> oh
[19:32] <rsvp> 14.04.* is very stable.
[19:32] <TJ-> Zixxorb: Did you say earlier you'd tried with an really old Release, 6.06 (from 2006) would be where I'd start to see if the ISO boot-loader works in that release. If we can identify an Ubuntu ISO that does work, we can then look at all the changes to the boot-loader since to figure out where the problem lies
[19:32] <Zixxorb> meh 12 is close to 14 XD
[19:32] <Augustas> kopple1 (gksudo:3211): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_free: assertion 'value != NULL' failed
[19:32] <kopple1> wzInPS: I actually don't know, sorry..
[19:33] <TJ-> wzInPS: I think 14.04.x is a good choice
[19:33] <wzInPS> kopple1: its okay! :) thank you for all!
[19:33] <ioria> Zixxorb, not really
[19:33] <kopple1> Augustas then use a generale "sudo"
[19:33] <kopple1> wzInPS: enjoy!
[19:33] <rgarrigue> kopple1 was mounted... well problem solved, unplugged plugged it, it's ok
[19:33] <wzInPS> TJ-: going for 14.04.3! thank you too!
[19:33] <TJ-> ioria: when it comes to the boot-loader code, 12.04 is almost identical to 14.04 :)
[19:33] <Zixxorb> just a sec
[19:33] <wzInPS> have a nice day guys!
[19:33] <kopple1> rgarrigue: okay then
[19:33] <kopple1> wzInPS: bye!
[19:34] <ioria> TJ-  i installed 12.04 on a pentium 3 .....
[19:34] <TJ-> ioria: I'm not on about installing, I'm talking about the initial el Torito boot-loader code.
[19:34] <TJ-> ioria: I fixed a bug this weekend in the hybrid ISO images that I originall fixed in 2009, and the fix had been lost since :s
[19:35] <rgarrigue> thanks kopple1
[19:35] <Zixxorb> heres a pic of the contents of a cd that will boot http://imgur.com/VPwoQ45
[19:35] <kopple1> rgarrigue: you're welcome man
[19:35] <ioria> TJ-  ok.... so what can he do ?
[19:36] <TJ-> Zixxorb: That doesn't help us unfortunately; The El Torito boot code is not in the regular file-system, it's in a special area of the ISO9660 image reserved for boot-loader code.
[19:36] <ioria> Zixxorb, in meanwhile, download Active Iso Burner
[19:36] <Zixxorb> tj- oh
[19:37] <Zixxorb> ioria ok
[19:37] <TJ-> Zixxorb: As ioria suggests... even without using them to burn, advanced tools will probably tell us more detail about the boot loader, and allow its extraction from the raw CD data.
[19:38] <TJ-> Zixxorb: if you can find a tool that reports the ISO9660 header data, and can extract the El Torito boot-loader image from a CD that *does* boot (e.g. the password resetter), and upload those I can take a look at the differences with our current Ubuntu ISO images.
[19:39] <Zixxorb> idk anything about that.... x.x
[19:39] <TJ-> Zixxorb: If you are dual-booting your laptop into Linux the tools can be readily installed there
[19:39] <Zixxorb> so should i boot into ubuntu and come back?
[19:42] <Zixxorb> meh anyone want a free windows 2000 computer (just pay shipping)
[19:42] <TJ-> Zixxorb: if you want to spend the time on this :)
[19:42] <Augustas> Zixxorb laptop?
[19:42] <Zixxorb> desktop
[19:42] <Augustas> Zixxorb i think shipping would be not cheap for desktop
[19:43] <Zixxorb> augustas probably not
[19:43] <ioria> Zixxorb, don't give up.... it can useful as 'mule'
[19:44] <ioria> *be
[19:44] <Zixxorb> ioria what do u mean mule?
[19:44] <kopple1> Zixxorb: ask a museum :D
[19:44] <Zixxorb> oh
[19:44] <kopple1> augustas, any luck?
[19:44] <ioria> Zixxorb, no... emergency
[19:44] <owen1> how to change the cursor theme to 'fixed pointer size' from the terminal?
[19:45] <ioria> Zixxorb, download the mail, write and print documents
[19:45] <Zixxorb> emergency? not like itd be usfull there either much
[19:45] <Augustas> kopple1 no, doing with sudo but still, just everything freeze and go to login page
[19:45] <owen1> (due to a bug with external monitor i see enlarge pointer when hovering on chromium)
[19:45] <kopple1> Augustas: does anything weird happens with other programs as well? Maybe it's just deja-dup...
[19:46] <gabrielschulhof> Hey, all! I'm trying to install ubuntu from minimal onto a virtualbox image and I'm having difficulties defining the root partition. I choose msdos as my new partition table, and ... ummm ... then what? Where do I actually do the partitioning?
[19:46] <TJ-> Zixxorb: within Ubuntu, the package "genisoimage" has the tool  "/usr/bin/geteltorito" which can extract the boot-loader code from a CD/DVD or ISO image file
[19:46] <Augustas> kopple1 no, because i tryed to do backup on fresh ubuntu, nothing. When not doing backup, system working just fine
[19:47] <Zixxorb> tj- ok......?
[19:47] <kopple1> Augustas: check this page out https://bugs.launchpad.net/deja-dup
[19:47] <TJ-> Zixxorb: that's if you want to collect the info necessary to figure the issue out
[19:47] <gabrielschulhof> If I try guided partitioning it says the disk is too small to be automatically partitioned. Well, how do I partition manually?
[19:48] <gabrielschulhof> If I go to manual, it just dumps me back to the screen where it shows my drive, and when I open it, it allows me to create a new partition table, but it does not allow me to create any partitions.
[19:48] <TJ-> gabrielschulhof: how large is the virtual disk?
[19:49] <Zixxorb> tj- oh ok
[19:50] <gabrielschulhof> TJ-: My bad. I accidentally made it 4 MB, not 4 GB. Let's see if it can handle 4 GB.
[19:51] <kopple1> TJ- sorry to interrupt, for Zixxorb's issue could maybe Plop help?
[19:51] <TJ-> gabrielschulhof: I thought that's what you'd find! I did something very similar with a swap partition yesterday... 5MB instead of 5GB :D
[19:51] <ioria> Zixxorb, my advice is: try another iso-burning program , explore your bios for blocking setups (e.g. antivirus, etc.. ) , and listen to TJ- ... ^_^.... good luck
[19:53] <TJ-> kopple1: That is a great idea, not sure it has the correct combination for Zixxorb issue but its certainly worth a try
[19:53] <Zixxorb> whats Plop
[19:53] <kopple1> like a leave-in floppy...
[19:53] <Zixxorb> i dont have any floppys
[19:54] <Zixxorb> brb
[19:54] <TJ-> Zixxorb: see https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html
[19:54] <gabrielschulhof> TJ-: Yeah, no issues auto-partitioning now.
[19:55] <andrey_> привет
[19:55] <andrey_> кто на минте сидит
[19:55] <TJ-> !ru | andrey_
[19:57] <owen1> is it possible to change the cursor theme to fixed pointer size via gsettings?
[19:58] <Zixxorb> back
[19:59] <kopple1> Zixxorb: I don't have experience with Plop but it's a famous program for impossible bootings, have a read here https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/intro.html
[19:59] <Zixxorb> ok
[20:04] <TJ-> kopple1: I've just emailed the Plop site owner since the files and checksums are served over an unencrypted connection, duh!
[20:05] <Zixxorb> lol
[20:05] <TJ-> kopple1: Zixxorb especially silly since the web-site itself is HTTPS !
[20:05] <Zixxorb> yeah, i agree
[20:05] <kopple1> TJ-: this makes them MITM-able?
[20:06] <TJ-> kopple1: Of course. Simply change the ISO image and change the md5sums page served to users
[20:06] <kopple1> TJ-: oh, that is to be fixed for sure
[20:06] <TJ-> kopple1: for Plop it's probably a very minimal issue, but if you're handing out image hashes for verification they should be protected!
[20:07] <frolog> how can i delete sudo protected files from the gui?
[20:07] <kopple1> TJ- it may still be used to send viruses
[20:07] <kopple1> frolog "gksudo filemanageryouuse"
[20:07] <Zixxorb> tj- i think im just going to give up trying for today but ill try again swometime (have other things to do today)
[20:07] <TJ-> kopple1: Yes, depends on the receiving OS/applications
[20:08] <Zixxorb> tj- thanks for all the help
[20:08] <TJ-> Zixxorb: I know the feeling. Look out for me if you want to tackle it again, I'll put some time aside to analyse the data and boot-sector code
[20:09] <Zixxorb> tj- any other way i can contact you?
[20:09] <TJ-> Zixxorb: on IRC leave me a memo. See  "/msg memoserv help"
[20:10] <TJ-> Zixxorb: I'm on UTC+1/GMT time currently
[20:10] <Zixxorb> im edt
[20:11] <kopple1> Zixxorb maybe your problem can educate others, would you mind using this IRC channel?
[20:11] <Zixxorb> wdym?
[20:12] <kopple1> Zixxorb nothing in particular, if you wish to contact TJ- privately it's okay too..
[20:12] <Zixxorb> oh ok
[20:13] <frolog> how do I remove all files in all subdirectories from where i stand?
[20:14] <kopple1> frolog in a terminal? I guess "rm -r *"... ?
[20:16] <kopple1> see you guys
[20:25] <PhlowHome> Hey folks, I just upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10, then to 15.04.  From 14.10 to 15.04 I could no longer log in to unity.  It would flicker and then kick me right back to the login.  I looked through logs and determined that the nvidia driver wasn't able to load kernel module.
[20:26] <wileee> PhlowHome, how did you run the update to 14.10 than 15.04, all steps if you can.
[20:26] <PhlowHome> I tried several things, apt-get install linux-generic, removed all nvidia* packages and bbswitch (not sure why that was installed, not a laptop).  Grabbed 340.93 direct from nvidia and ran the .run
[20:27] <zykotick9> "Grabbed 340.93 direct from nvidia and ran the .run" <- oh my...
[20:28] <PhlowHome> after that, logging in would give me a crash in unity-panel-service, tried ccsm, re-enabled unity plugin and dependencies, now I get into desktop, but no unity panels
[20:28] <PhlowHome> wileee, I used the System Update to upgrade
[20:29] <PhlowHome> i.e. the prompts you get asking you to upgrade
[20:29] <hhhh> Yo, can I ask questions here?
[20:29] <Bashing-om> PhonicUK: ^^ UnGood, did you also choose to install/allow DKMS ? OEM install is considered the means of last resort . And then there are problems galore .
[20:29] <sansay_> Hey guys, i tried to install curl and now php-fpm doesnt seem to work, nginx just says 502 gateway error, any suggestions on how to debug this?
[20:29] <PhonicUK> ?
[20:29] <zykotick9> PhlowHome: sorry, i certainly can't help you.  but this is #debian's "why nvidia installer sucks" factoid, it applies to ubuntu as well...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12596433/
[20:29] <PhonicUK> ah
[20:30] <hhhh> Yo, I chose to install ubuntu on an SSD (and it said it would take up the entire thing).  In Nautilus, there's the ssd listed as an ssd, but a bit called Computer as an HDD
[20:31] <sansay_> i believe my issue is because php-fpm wont start
[20:31] <wileee> PhlowHome, Just a bit much, we have to assume off the bat that nvidia is the issue, when you could have a handful of ooutliers like ppa's...etc.
[20:31] <hhhh> How do I verify that the Computer ('/') is actually SSD?
[20:31] <wileee> hhhh, look at the HD's and partitions
[20:32] <PhlowHome> Bashing-om, well my googling gave me several options, I figured the last resort was upgrading my kernel 4.x.. so I went with the nvidia option...
[20:34] <opt1mal> I'm trying to install a proprietary driver for an older hp printer. I've run "hp-setup" but it tries to download the driver from some server, after which an error message pops up saying that the checksums don't match. It says the file was downloaded into ~/.hplip but I don't see the file there. I do see traffic coming in for a download. Anyone know anything about a checksum mismatch for a proprietary hp printer driver?
[20:34] <Bashing-om> PhlowHome: If I may suggest in my experience, purge the OEM Nvidia driver via their uninstall script, purge nvida via apt-get purge, and install the proprietary driver  from our software repository . Then see where you are at .
[20:35] <PhlowHome> I'll give it a shot, which is the one from repo?
[20:36] <hhhh> http://imgur.com/FwjSZtU, fresh out of install.  I enabled encryption of home folder; is this the cause or should I be worried?
[20:37] <Bashing-om> PhlowHome: If we use the system to install the driver, the system will match the card/driver for you .. latest driver in 15.0e repo is the 355 version driver .
[20:37] <TJ-> PhlowHome: "ubuntu-drivers list" will analyse your system and report the correct packages
[20:37] <canardxh> hello
[20:37] <canardxh> i wanna ask if i can install deb files on ubuntu?
[20:37] <k1l_> canardxh: you can
[20:37] <canardxh> cause i ask in fedora chatroom
[20:38] <canardxh> they say whatever i do it will break the system
[20:38] <k1l_> canardxh: if you have a ubuntu question, dont ask the fedora guys :)
[20:38] <PhlowHome> ok, I'll see what I see...
[20:38] <auronandace> canardxh: it will if you install random deb files
[20:38] <canardxh> i need to run the official flasher for my smartphone that uses .deb
[20:38] <Bashing-om> PhlowHome: See TJ- 's above. What now returns ' sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" ' . See if the uninstall script is available ,
[20:38] <canardxh> random?
[20:38] <sansay_> could someone with some experties help me out, im lost as to what broke php
[20:38] <opt1mal> oh looks like others have the same problem with hp printers on ubuntu 15.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/1449964
[20:39] <TJ-> canardxh: .DEBian files are packages used by dpkg, the low-level package manager, and the apt repository tools
[20:39] <auronandace> canardxh: that is why there is a package manager that handles all the dependency management
[20:39] <canardxh> ok
[20:40] <canardxh> so if i run ubuntu live image i could install .deb? or do i need to install ubuntu
[20:40] <TJ-> canardxh: Yes, you can install packages in the Live environment
[20:40] <canardxh> ok thanks ill download now
[20:40] <canardxh> which version should i download
[20:40] <sansay_> it seems that my php-fpm some how got broken
[20:41] <canardxh> i have ubuntu before but its old
[20:41] <k1l_> sansay_: apt-cache policy php-fpm     in a pastebin please
[20:41] <TJ-> canardxh: be aware when installing a .deb file manually (using "sudo dpkg -i file.deb") if that package has dependencies on some other package(s) 'dpkg' won't install those. To install dependencies requires using 'apt' tools, which work from repositories rather than with raw .deb files.
[20:41] <k1l_> canardxh: 14.04 is the LTS
[20:42] <canardxh> ok ill be back when im logged in live image
[20:42] <sansay_> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/1Rb65UTc
[20:42] <TJ-> canardxh: if you need very recent hardware support, use the latest release, else stick with the 14.04 Long Term Support release
[20:43] <k1l_> sansay_: none php-fpm installed
[20:43] <sansay_> ya it was installed because im using in nginx, or was
[20:44] <sansay_> when i try to install it now i get this:  php5-fpm : Depends: php5-common (= 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4) but 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.12 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:44] <k1l_> sansay_: "sudo apt update&&sudo apt full-upgrade" the result in a psatebin please
[20:46] <sansay_> k1l_: it updated alot of stuff or seemed too, its alot of stuff to pastebin, should i still pastebin it?
[20:47] <k1l_> sansay_: let it update run. then try again to install php-fpm. if it still doesnt work i would like that pastebin
[20:47] <PhlowHome> Bashing-om, uninstall, purge and nvidia-340 grabbed.  No issues there, but still only desktop, no panels
[20:48] <sansay_> after it ran it says the same thing:  php5-fpm : Depends: php5-common (= 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4) but 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.12 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:48] <PhlowHome> I should mention, I do see the top bar on the login screen.  It disappears after login
[20:48] <sansay_> maybe uninstall php5-common, and reinstall?
[20:48] <PhlowHome> that's not new though, same before
[20:49] <k1l_> sansay_: apt-cache policy php5-common
[20:50] <sansay_> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/eZpXkrSV
[20:50] <PhlowHome> not just no panels either, no window chrome at all.  right click on desktop Open Terminal, just get a black box terminal, no window chrome
[20:50] <lakitu> is ubuntu touch ready for a touchscreen desktop monitor? say with kde or something?
[20:50] <aum> join #libreoffice
[20:50] <aum> join #libreoffice
[20:50] <leadip> ok..
[20:50] <lakitu> or just is ubuntu touch ready for a touch screen desktop monitor
[20:51] <auronandace> !touch | lakitu
[20:51] <lakitu> thanks
[20:51] <k1l_> lakitu: ubuntu touch is actually in the development state for desktops. smartphone and tablet is released
[20:51] <Bashing-om> PhlowHome: Sorry, I have no experience with 15.04's GUI (systemd) . I do not know that the procedures from upstart would apply to the 15.04 desktop.
[20:52] <lakitu> thank you
[20:52] <k1l_> lakitu: and a lot of programs are like unusable with touchscreen on the regular desktop
[20:53] <lakitu> should maybe make tablets useable as a touchscreen desktop monitor
[20:53] <lakitu> anyway
[20:53] <k1l_> sansay_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:53] <PhlowHome> Bashing-om, any clue where I can start looking to diagnose?
[20:54] <sansay_> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/qFgYbhKZ
[20:54] <lakitu> (you know - connect into a classic case cpu/etc.   maybe could use Plan9? i have no idea)
[20:54] <lakitu> anywayz...
[20:55] <lakitu> i gotta jatt =)
[20:56] <Bashing-om> PhlowHome: Well, I always start by looking at the logs. in this case there is " .xsession-errors " file in your home directory. Does it give any hints for the failure of the desk top to start ?
[20:57] <TJ-> PhlowHome: have you tried a Guest session/alternate new user account?
[20:59] <Karunamon> hi folks - would anyone here be familiar with the operation of mdadm? I'm trying to recover half of a mirror set on a brand new system and the process is being rather troublesome
[20:59] <PhlowHome> TJ-, I did before on the nvidia driver, got the same unity-panel-service crash.  Now though, it seems to be fine...
[20:59] <PhlowHome> Guest looks normal
[21:00] <k1l_> sansay_: what is the message now when you try to install the php-fpm?
[21:00] <sansay_> same issue
[21:00] <k1l_> can you show?
[21:01] <Karunamon> in short, the remaining drive is mounted on /dev/sdb1, an mdadm -E shows it, but try as I might, i'm unable to assemble the array to actually access the drive
[21:01] <Karunamon> lots of "/dev/sdb1 does not appear to be an md device"
[21:02] <sansay_> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/pJTQLD0c
[21:02] <k1l_> sansay_: "apt update&&apt full-upgrade"
[21:02] <k1l_> and i need the full pastebin of that please
[21:03] <Karunamon> ..i'm completely out of ideas here.
[21:03] <Bashing-om> PhlowHome: TJ- :: So we have a config issue . Maybe you could consider removing any saved user-sessions by deleting ~/.dmrc from console ?
[21:03] <PhlowHome> .xsession-errors nothing jumping out at me
[21:03] <sansay_> k1l_: do you want the paste bn with it downloading the sources? or just the part after that
[21:04] <TJ-> PhlowHome: I really get frustrated when its a config issue; so difficult to diagnose cleanly
[21:04] <k1l_> full please
[21:04] <sansay_> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/fL65k8sG
[21:04] <PhlowHome> Bashing-om, I'll have a look
[21:05] <TJ-> PhlowHome: check the logs in "/var/log/lightdm/"
[21:05] <Bashing-om> PhlowHome: That file will be re-created when you log back in .
[21:05] <k1l_> sansay_: he got a new list, try install again :)
[21:05] <sansay_> same issue
[21:06] <sansay_>  php5-fpm : Depends: php5-common (= 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4) but 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.12 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:06] <k1l_> sansay_: php5-fpm : Depends: php5-common (= 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4) but 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.12 is to be installed
[21:06] <sansay_> should i uninstall php5-common?
[21:06] <k1l_> i dont know where it gets that old depency from. 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.12 is the latest one in the trusty-updates and is to be used
[21:07] <sansay_> worse case more things break? i uninstall php5-common, install php5-common php5-fpm and pray? lol
[21:08] <Jakey2> is it possible to put ubuntu on the amazon fire tablet
[21:10] <PhlowHome> Bashing-om, renamed it .dmrc.old  logged in, same problem, didn't recreate .dmrc
[21:11] <PhlowHome> TJ-, ok, looking
[21:11] <PhlowHome> sorry for slow response, running between machines :)
[21:11] <Jakey2> Fire HD 6
[21:13] <TJ-> PhlowHome: Not sure how feasible this is, but... start a Guest session, list the files created under .config (assuming they're only created for the session), then focus on those files in the broken user profile, sorting them by most recently changed to figure out the most relevant
[21:15] <Jakey2> is it possible to put ubuntu on the amazon fire tablet
[21:15] <Jakey2> Fire HD 6
[21:15] <john> when i switch to some themes in unity the terminal will uncontrollably shrink i will resize it but it shrinks again... any ideas???
[21:15] <auronandace> !touch | Jakey2
[21:18] <Guest29330> when i switch to some themes in unity the terminal will uncontrollably shrink i will resize it but it shrinks again... any ideas???
[21:19] <PhlowHome> nothing in lightdm.log, nothing in x-0.log
[21:19] <leadip> cya guys
[21:19] <auronandace> Guest29330: do those themes use a smaller default font size?
[21:20] <PhlowHome> x-0-greeter.log has some warnings... need to get them to this machine to research
[21:20] <Guest29330> i dont know... they are usually dark themes though
[21:22] <DeaDSouL> hi, I have this code to find all the video files >>> find . -type f -exec file -N -i -- {} + | sed -n 's!: video/[^:]*$!!p' <<< how can I add this condition to sed >>> x-content/video-vcd <<< ?
[21:30] <PhlowHome> Going to try   rm ~/.gconf ~/.gconfd ~/.metacity ~/.compiz-1 ~/.config/compiz-1 ~/.config/dconf -rf
[21:31] <PhlowHome> then dconf reset -f /org/compiz/   and  setsid unity   if that doesn't work
[21:32] <PhlowHome> when I get back from dinner that is...
[21:34] <bindi> how much should I give to / when creating the partitions?
[21:34] <bindi> if I plan to seperate /home that is
[21:36] <k1l_> bindi: something around 10-20GB. depends on how much of big packages you plan to intall (like latex or such). take 20GB andyou are very safe
[21:46] <Guest13520> hola
[21:47] <robattila256> Does anyone understand for loops in bash, whats wrong with my command here http://pastebin.com/9g8kjf68
[21:47] <robattila256> it says command not found, and also is not adding the integer onto the second file name _Claymore_$i_.mkv
[21:48] <soulisson> Hi, is there a way to mount an HPA partition with losetup?
[21:48] <Bashing-om> !info guest-session
[21:49] <TJ-> robattila256: lose the quotes " ... " around the command after do
[21:49] <robattila256> TJ-: thanks
[21:54] <bindi> what is the difference between nvidia-352 and nvidia-352-updates? the first one is "Recommended Driver"
[21:58] <robattila256> bindi: nvidia-352 is the most stable version, and updates is just kind of the BETA version of a driver i guess
[21:58] <Strat> How do i downgrade my kernel?
[22:00] <Ben64> Strat: why
[22:02] <Strat> Ben64: i need to run software that's somehow generating a bug in Kernel 3.19.x (i tried different solutions, but none seem to solve the problem), but it works fine on my other computer running kernel 3.16.x
[22:02] <Ben64> report the bug, also which version of ubuntu
[22:04] <Strat> 14.04, kernel 3.19.x is causing the bug. The other system runs Ubuntu 14.04, kernel 3.16.x which works fine
[22:04] <TJ-> Strat: what software is it provoking the bug?
[22:04] <Strat> TJ-: VMware Workstation v10
[22:05] <Strat> TJ-: exactly this is the error i get: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449629/error-installing-vmware-workstation-on-ubuntu
[22:05] <Strat> TJ-: i followed all tutorials on how to fix this, but to no success
[22:05] <Ben64> ah so its vmware's fault
[22:06] <Strat> Ben64: yes, it somehow generates a bug when kernel is 3.19.x
[22:07] <Strat> But i really do need to run VMware badly
[22:07] <Ben64> you can go down to 3.13 or 3.16. the 3.13 kernel for 14.04 is supported until 2019, the 3.16 version until august 2016
[22:07] <Ben64> or use virtualbox
[22:08] <TJ-> Strat: I see; VMware needs patching to its out-of-kernel modules. VMware should carry patches for fixing such issues.
[22:09] <Strat> TJ-: indeed, but i can't patch it if I can't run the software
[22:09] <Strat> Ben64: thank you, i will try to do that!
[22:44] <NoNameAvailable> Hello
[22:45] <bprompt> allo
[22:45] <NoNameAvailable> Hi, anyone around from slovenia, or that underslands slovenian?
[22:47] <k1l_> !si  | NoNameAvailable
[22:48] <NoNameAvailable> Hello k1l_
[22:48] <k1l_> hi NoNameAvailable. this is the technical ubuntu support channel. do you have an ubuntu issue?
[22:50] <NoNameAvailable> k1l_ not really (sorry), just looking for someone from slovenia that's awake, I have some questions about slovenian
[22:50] <k1l_> !alis | NoNameAvailable see if there are some other slovenian channels on freenode
[22:52] <NoNameAvailable> Ok, thanks
[22:52] <bprompt> NoNameAvailable:    hmmm are you just inquiring about the language?
[22:53] <bprompt> NoNameAvailable:    for I see 36 folks at #slovenija  at IRCnet network
[22:53] <NoNameAvailable> bprompt yes I have a few questions
[22:54] <NoNameAvailable> bprompt I've joined now
[22:54] <NoNameAvailable> thanks!
[22:54] <bprompt> np
[22:56] <Kazuto> How would I install Ubuntu on my laptop if it doesn't have a CD drive?
[22:56] <bprompt> Kazuto:   use a usb drive :/
[22:57] <k1l_> Kazuto: use a usb pendrive
[22:57] <k1l_> Kazuto: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[22:59] <owen1> is it possible to change the cursor theme to fixed pointer size via gsettings?
[23:00] <Kazuto> Oh great, now I feel stupid, haha. Thanks bprompt, k1l_
[23:00] <owen1> or from the console
[23:01] <wileee> owen1, Desktop?
[23:02] <bprompt> Kazuto:    To see what is in front of one's ` needs a constant struggle.    ~~ George Orwell, "In Front of Your Nose" ~~
[23:02] <owen1> wileee: i use i3 but got whatever the default ubuntu 15.04 comes with
[23:02] <owen1> unity maybe?
[23:02] <owen1> or gnome
[23:03] <wileee> owen1, install the unity-tweak tool, there are good control gui's there.
[23:03] <wileee> for unity
[23:03] <owen1> wileee: will do
[23:04] <wileee> owen1, if gnome shell the gnome-tweak tool
[23:05] <owen1> wileee: i found the cursor themes section. but where do i set the size to 'fixed'?
[23:06] <owen1> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301622#c8
[23:06] <wileee> owen1, I'm not sure what you mean by fixed, I'm in the shell, I have not messed with unity for awhile.
[23:07] <owen1> wileee: there is a bug that shows a giant mouse arrow when using external monitor. the solution was to 'change the cursor theme to have fixed pointer size'.
[23:09] <wileee> owen1, All I could do is google that, no idea of fixed. On that screen, in general, where and how?
[23:09] <owen1> wileee: no problem. thank you
[23:09] <c32834> Hello!
[23:10] <wileee> owen1, You might address directly your issue, If I've not missed it.
[23:10] <bprompt> owen1:   are you on kde?
[23:10] <owen1> bprompt: no. using i3
[23:10] <bprompt> hmm
[23:11] <bprompt> owen1:    the bug report above shows as kde, thus =)
[23:11] <owen1> oh
[23:11] <bprompt> owen1:    but usually, the window manager will have a section for changing the mouse theme
[23:11] <owen1> so i should look for i3 specific settings
[23:12] <carlos_> hello everyone
[23:12] <c32834> Hey, quick question, and ik this sounds ridiculous, but when in console mode (ctrl+alt+f1), how to i scroll up and down? obviously mouse wheel doesnt do it...
[23:13] <k1l_> c32834: pageup pagedown
[23:13] <bprompt> owen1:    I'd think so, I use lxde, and it shows the mouse pointers I have at ~/.themes under "customize look and feel" applet
[23:13] <c32834> that worked k11_, thanks! :D
[23:30] <owen1> bprompt: got it. thanks a lot for your help
[23:31] <bprompt> np
[23:34] <owen1> bprompt: i just read about Xcursor.size: in .Xresources but it didn't change anything for me
[23:36] <bprompt> owen1:     seems the working fix thus far is the theme changing
[23:40] <owen1> ok
[23:42] <dale_> hi
[23:52] <coolbreeze_822> hey yall
[23:52] <lotuspsychje> coolbreeze_822: welcome, what can we do for you?
[23:54] <coolbreeze_822> so i have a partitioned 256GB ssd. 1 partition has Win10, 1 has Ubuntu 14.04, the  3rd partition is blank.  I can only get it to boot up Windows.  How do I boot it to Linux?
[23:55] <lotuspsychje> coolbreeze_822: make your life easy mate and install ubuntu LTS single
[23:55] <lotuspsychje> coolbreeze_822: run whatever you like in virtualbox after
[23:55] <coolbreeze_822> ok and if I like to live dangerously? then what?
[23:56] <wileee> where a helmet
[23:56] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | coolbreeze_822 then inform yourself with this :p
[23:56] <HackerII> win 10 is like AOL. "welcome, weve got you're hard drive"
[23:59] <coolbreeze_822> lotuspsychje: ot it. Thanks
[23:59] <lotuspsychje> HackerII: :p