=== wxl_ is now known as wxl === hikiko__ is now known as hikiko === Zic_ is now known as Zic === lan3y is now known as Laney === Laney is now known as Guest61035 === Guest61035 is now known as Laney === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln === lionel_ is now known as lionel === hikiko-lpt is now known as hikiko === Guest62641 is now known as balloons [15:00] !dmb-ping [15:00] cyphermox, infinity, Laney, micahg, xnox, bdmurray, stgraber: DMB ping [15:00] yo [15:00] hi [15:02] pishuilu: just checking you are here for the DMB meeting? [15:03] Laney: hi, I am here. [15:04] ok, we will be with you shortly [15:04] let's go [15:04] ok [15:04] #startmeeting DMB 2015-09-28 [15:04] Meeting started Mon Sep 28 15:04:26 2015 UTC. The chair is Laney. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:04] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB 2015-09-28 Meeting | Current topic: [15:04] #topic Review of previous action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB 2015-09-28 Meeting | Current topic: Review of previous action items [15:04] #subtopic bdmurray to setup a pad for the dmb to collaborate on response for noskcaj [15:05] any news? [15:05] I ended up creating a bzr branch [15:05] I missed that [15:05] does it have anything useful in? [15:06] I don't think so. [15:06] what's next then? [15:06] Nope, nothing in it. [15:08] I think "micahg to get Noskcaj feedback" [15:08] bit concerned that this drags on [15:09] well we could start adding our own feedback then [15:09] right [15:09] I didn't -1 the application but those who did could start to work on it... [15:10] xnox: that includes you [15:11] #subtopic Laney to start an onboarding page for new dmb members [15:11] I didn't do this yet :( [15:11] I am kind of annoyed at myself for not getting around to it [15:11] and I will put it on my calendar for friday afternoon [15:12] done [15:12] #action laney stop slacking and write onboarding page [15:12] ACTION: laney stop slacking and write onboarding page [15:12] #subtopic michag to confirm if mozc packageset change happened [15:13] did, yes? [15:13] Archive Upload Rights for ubuntu-input-methods-dev: archive 'primary', package set 'input-methods' in wily [15:13] #subtopic michag to follow up with Unit193 about their application and a meeting date [15:13] NFI [15:13] #action michag to follow up with Unit193 about their application and a meeting date [15:13] ACTION: michag to follow up with Unit193 about their application and a meeting date [15:14] I seem to recall that happening but not the outcome. [15:16] can't find any mail anyway [15:16] #topic PPU application: ShuiLu Pi for ubuntukylin-default-settings === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB 2015-09-28 Meeting | Current topic: PPU application: ShuiLu Pi for ubuntukylin-default-settings [15:16] pishuilu: hey, it's now your turn [15:16] can you introduce yourself and your application? [15:16] ok [15:16] #chair bdmurray [15:16] Current chairs: Laney bdmurray [15:16] (brb) [15:17] I am a member of Ubuntu Kylin team. [15:17] I maintain ubuntukylin-default-settings package. [15:18] This package contains a number of system configurations. [15:19] For example, firefox search engine and start page, default language for installer images, fix zip fie display of garbage characters [15:19] etc [15:20] Do you have plans to start maintaining other packages in ubuntukylin, or other packages in general? [15:20] pishuilu: have you come across something that you wanted to customize, but it wasn't in fact customizable at all? Ie. impossible to set some kind of a setting, cause there is no such setting. And how did you resolve such requests? [15:21] cyphermox: Now I maintain ubuntukylin-default-settings and ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntukylin package [15:22] Later will also maintain other Ubuntu Kylin packages [15:24] pishuilu: Could you answer xnox's question? [15:24] xnox: Sometimes I should create a script to execute [15:25] shell script [15:26] Like fix bug LP: #1462848 (fix zip file display of garbage characters) [15:26] Launchpad bug 1462848 in Ubuntu Kylin "The name of the expanded files for zip file display of garbage characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462848 [15:30] pishuilu: Have you followed the work in bug 1422290 which seems like it may be a proper fix? [15:30] bug 1422290 in unzip (Ubuntu) "Default charsets handling for Windows archives in CJKV+th locale" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1422290 [15:30] * xnox ponders if my question got through [15:30] pishuilu: have you come across something that you wanted to customize, but it wasn't in fact customizable at all? Ie. impossible to set some kind of a setting, cause there is no such setting. And how did you resolve such requests? [15:30] cyphermox: But I can't maintain all Ubuntu Kylin packages. some packages will be maintained by other colleagues. [15:31] of course [15:34] pishuilu: have you seen the other questions asked of you by xnox and myself? [15:34] bdmurray: I don't follow bug 1422290. I fix some questions which is not fixed by upstream. If upstream fix this bug ,I will undo this configuration. [15:34] bug 1422290 in unzip (Ubuntu) "Default charsets handling for Windows archives in CJKV+th locale" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1422290 [15:37] xnox: sorry , I miss your question. [15:37] pishuilu: have you come across something that you wanted to customize, but it wasn't in fact customizable at all? Ie. impossible to set some kind of a setting, cause there is no such setting. And how did you resolve such requests? [15:38] ok [15:38] * stgraber waves (my phone lied to me) [15:39] xnox: I think if it wasn't in fact customizable at all, so this bug is not for this package. [15:40] xnox: This package function is system configuration. [15:40] pishuilu: so you never modified anything in ubuntu, or request to be modified in ubuntu to customize stuff?? [15:43] xnox: I mean configuration is not modifying some package source. [15:44] xnox: For exmaple, replace the specific icon [15:45] configure defaults.list of applications etc. [15:50] pishuilu: Could you comment on happyaron's caveat regarding a need "to be more careful"? [15:51] xnox: You mean that modify some package source and submit patches to upstream? [15:52] bdmurray: ok [15:54] bdmurray: happyaron's caveat mean : when I fix a bug ,I should consider a problem more comprehensively [15:54] pishuilu: And what steps are you taking to do that? [15:57] When I fix a bug , first I should think this bug's influence of the whole system [15:58] so I can consider a problem more comprehensively [15:59] Can you give us an example of how you've done that? [16:00] Details should be considered in all kinds of unexpected circumstances [16:01] For example , fix bug 1462848 [16:01] bug 1462848 in Ubuntu Kylin "The name of the expanded files for zip file display of garbage characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462848 [16:03] (I have one when you're finished) [16:03] (then we should wrap up as we're over time already) [16:03] I didn't consider the previous zh_CN outside [16:05] Laney: I am sorry. Spent so much time ! [16:07] It's okay [16:07] bdmurray: you want to ask more? [16:07] I should consider zh_CN,zh_TW,zh_HK etc. [16:08] Laney: no, that's okay [16:09] ty [16:09] pishuilu: What testing do you do on the package before asking for it to be uploaded? [16:09] Do you test it on a non Chinese system for example? [16:11] Laney: I test it on Chinese system. [16:12] Because Ubuntu Kylin provide for the use of Chinese users [16:12] I'm worried about cases where I have normal Ubuntu and Ubuntu Kylin installed at the same time [16:12] like if I have a Chinese friend who uses my computer [16:13] I don't want the Kylin settings to break anything on my account [16:14] Laney: I see what you mean [16:16] Laney: I should make some configurations effect only in zh_CN. [16:17] yes, you can also look at the $DESKTOP_SESSION environment variable [16:17] it's also valid to be chinese and not use kylin :) [16:18] Laney:OK, I know. [16:18] Thanks. [16:18] ok, thanks [16:18] !dmb-ping [16:18] cyphermox, infinity, Laney, micahg, xnox, bdmurray, stgraber: DMB ping [16:18] anyone else? [16:18] or vote? [16:19] i lost wifi [16:19] * xnox is back [16:20] hello? [16:20] I have no more questions. [16:23] #vote grant ShuiLu Pi upload rights for ubuntukylin-default-settings [16:23] Please vote on: grant ShuiLu Pi upload rights for ubuntukylin-default-settings [16:23] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [16:26] +1 [16:26] +1 received from xnox [16:27] +1 [16:27] +1 received from bdmurray [16:28] +1 [16:28] +1 received from Laney [16:28] +1 [happy to see that the package is no longer overwriting paths owned by other packages but doing clean diverts now, otherwise would have -1] [16:28] +1 [happy to see that the package is no longer overwriting paths owned by other packages but doing clean diverts now, otherwise would have -1] received from stgraber [16:29] Would like to see a bit more consideration given to co-existing with other flavours [16:30] Laney: OK [16:30] and probably a review procedure [16:30] like, don't commit any changes without another team member approving them [16:31] anyway... [16:31] #endvote [16:31] Voting ended on: grant ShuiLu Pi upload rights for ubuntukylin-default-settings [16:31] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [16:31] Motion carried [16:31] stgraber: you ok to action? [16:31] sure [16:32] done [16:32] thanks [16:33] pishuilu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/New <- good page to read [16:33] and please ask if you have any questions at all [16:33] OK ,I know. Thanks very much. [16:35] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB 2015-09-28 Meeting | Current topic: AOB [16:36] can all of you please respond to this old thread? [16:36] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-August/000815.html [16:37] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:37] Meeting ended Mon Sep 28 16:37:28 2015 UTC. [16:37] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-09-28-15.04.moin.txt [16:37] cheers [16:39] Thank you, goodbye! [16:40] hi! [16:40] \o [16:41] #startmeeting [16:41] Meeting started Mon Sep 28 16:41:07 2015 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:41] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [16:41] The meeting agenda can be found at: [16:41] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting [16:42] [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report [16:42] I'll go first [16:42] this week I'm working on snappy documentation [16:43] when helping someone with framework policy for a snap, I discovered that snappy's dbus bus policy implementation is not sufficient (not surprising, but now we have details to move forward) [16:43] I need to file a bug with ideas on how to solve that so the snappy guys can get it fixed [16:44] I have a couple of review tools issues to fix [16:44] helping the golang, juju, and lxd MIRs along [16:44] and an embargoed issue [16:46] fyi, ty hicks is out this week sprinting [16:46] mdeslaur: you're up [16:46] I just released nvidia drivers [16:46] and I'm working on php5 updates [16:46] I have a few other updates to test [16:46] and that's probably it for this week, as I'm on vacation for the next two weeks [16:47] that's it from me, sbeattie [16:47] mdeslaur: nice! [16:47] I'm covering community for ty hicks this week while he's sprinting [16:47] mdeslaur: nice :) [16:47] I have an embargoed issue this week [16:48] I'm also working on gcc-5 pie stuff [16:48] I have some outstanding apparmor patches to review. [16:48] that's pretty much my week. [16:49] jjohansen: I think you're up? [16:49] I am working on breaking the world [16:50] sbeattie: how close are we to putting gcc-5 pie to done? [16:50] that is kernel work on stacking and its related items [16:51] I have some bug fixes to pull together too, that need to get pushed out to various kernels [16:51] jjohansen: after the meeting can we sync super quick on that? [16:51] jdstrand: sure [16:53] should I pause for sbeattie, or just poke sarnold [16:53] I think moving ahead is fine [16:53] I'm on bug triage this week and working on the lxd MIR [16:54] I'll try to poke at some apparmor patches for a change of pace [16:54] I think that's it for me, chrisccoulson? [16:55] I shall be doing a thunderbird update this week. That's the only planned update I have :) [16:55] So I'll be hoping to make some progress on Oxide (I investigated some memory use issues last week, and have just finished adding support for HTML notifications) [16:57] I would like to start figuring out what https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oxide/+spec/site-settings is going to look like [16:57] I think that's me done [16:58] [TOPIC] Highlighted packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages [16:59] The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. [16:59] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. [16:59] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/jabberd2.html [16:59] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/revelation.html [16:59] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/c-icap.html [16:59] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/iscsitarget.html [16:59] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tpp.html [17:00] [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions [17:00] Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? [17:03] mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold and chrisccoulson: thanks! [17:04] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [17:04] Meeting ended Mon Sep 28 17:04:01 2015 UTC. [17:04] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-09-28-16.41.moin.txt [17:04] thanks jdstrand [17:04] tanks jdstrand [17:05] thanks jdstrand! [17:05] thanks jdstrand