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[08:10] <jamespage> lots of openstack clients and oslo libraries being synced from experimental today - re-alignment for rc1
[09:17] <jamespage> ^^ that last sync is needed for barbican, which is its only reverse depends in the ubuntu archive
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[14:37] <Riddell> someone accepting things in double quick time or no packagset packages don't get blocked?
[14:39] <Laney> second one
[14:39] <ogra_> Riddell, there is a bot
[14:39] <ogra_> iirc
[14:39] <ogra_> for the non-packageset ones
[15:46] <coreycb> bdmurray, can you promote software-properties to trusty-updates?  for bug 1472586
[15:46] <ubot93> bug 1472586 in software-properties (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Add support for liberty cloud-archive" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472586
[15:47] <bdmurray> coreycb: I'll have a look this morning
[15:48] <coreycb> bdmurray, thanks
[16:33] <wxl> could we turn the daily images cronjobs back on? pretty please?
[16:33] <infinity> wxl: I did so a day or two ago....
[16:34] <wxl> oh yeah i guess i was a little early today, but for the past couple days, nope
[16:34] <wxl> oh well, i'll assume all is well
[18:52] <Laney> That ubuntu-docs reminded me to run the old UDD query I had hanging around
[18:52] <Laney> https://udd.debian.org/~laney/less.txt
[18:52] <Laney> There's a few other packages where vivid{,-updates,-proposed} < wily{,-proposed}
[18:54] <Laney> just mentioning in case someone is more aroudn than I am and wants to look at it
[18:54] <Laney> Otherwise I can maybe look tomorrow
[18:54]  * Laney fades away
[19:11] <Ukikie> Seen ca-certificates get in there too.
[19:25] <robru> stgraber: https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/queuebot/ping-everybody can you merge this please?
[19:28] <infinity> cyphermox: Yo.
[19:28] <infinity> cyphermox: modemmanager.  Isn't that something the phone uses?
[19:29] <cyphermox> no
[19:29] <cyphermox> it's desktop
[19:29] <infinity> cyphermox: The phone is, AFAIK, still upstart, at least until they converge with snappy.
[19:29] <infinity> cyphermox: Oh.  No phone interest at all?
[19:29] <cyphermox> yes
[19:29] <cyphermox> no, no ubuntu phone interest at all, they use ofono instead
[19:29] <ogra_> infinity, ofono doesnt really like fighting with modemmanager over devices ;)
[19:30] <infinity> cyphermox: Kay.
[19:30] <infinity> cyphermox: The other bit I'm confused by is removal of the service link.  Do the sysv and systemd jobs still have matching names after that change?
[19:30] <infinity> (And does that mean they didn't before?)
[19:31] <cyphermox> the right name for ModemManager is ModemManager, the systemd service should be fine
[19:31] <infinity> cyphermox: But the systemd service must match the init script.
[19:31] <infinity> cyphermox: Or life goes topsy-turvy.
[19:31] <cyphermox> infinity: I'm just removing special-casing we had just for us, the package as it is in Debian should work 100%
[19:32] <cyphermox> (just for us -- just for upstart)
[19:32] <ogra_> well, it goes interesting at lleast, since the sysvinit generator of systemd would start generating another unit from the sysv script
[19:32] <infinity> ogra_: Right.
[19:33] <ogra_> are actually both installed in the binary ?
[19:33] <cyphermox> lemme get back some state about it, it's been on my hd for a little bit now
[19:35] <infinity> Erm, that's not actually a delta at all, that's in the Debian source.
[19:35] <cyphermox> right, so the service name needs to match, but we don't ship a sysv init script
[19:35] <stgraber> robru: done
[19:35] <robru> stgraber: thanks
[19:35] <cyphermox> infinity: I know, I had convinced mbiebl to keep things in debian source.
[19:35] <infinity> So the Debian package is buggy and doesn't ship a sysv init script? :P
[19:37] <cyphermox> it ships systemd magic only
[19:37] <cyphermox> the sysv script may well have been dropped, MM is typically dbus-activated by NM when needed, not just started
[19:38] <infinity> Anyhow.  Fair enough.  Please jam this in Debian too, it's rather odd to have an Ubuntu delta to remove an Ubuntu delta. ;)
[19:38] <ogra_> inception !
[19:39] <cyphermox> infinity: yep :)
[19:39]  * ogra_ doesnt like where that might go ... in the end it removes Ubuntu altogether 
[19:40] <infinity> ogra_: I think it would be lovely if all Ubuntu deltas were in Debian, and all it took was changing base-files and dpkg/vendor and rebuilding Debian to get Ubuntu out of the other end.
[19:40] <infinity> ogra_: I'm pretty sure some Canonical management would disagree with me. :P
[19:40] <ogra_> hah
[21:57] <flexiondotorg> My Pebble Time has just altered me that I need to say a quick thankyou to cyphermox :-)
[21:57] <cyphermox> your pebble time alters you?
[21:57] <cyphermox> ;)
[21:58] <flexiondotorg> Well, that was a typo. But I suppose it does in a way ;-)
[22:57] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Can you take a peek at this merge proposal please? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/debian-cd/ubuntu-mate-logo/+merge/272432