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eliaspsdarkxst on dconf-editor, I see on the upstream source code in the configure.ac that dependency: +GLIB_REQUIRED=2.44.000:22
eliaspsbut on debian/control.in is: libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.39.3)00:23
eliaspsdo I change the number?00:23
darkxsteliasps, yes you update that01:09
darkxstand note the cahnge in the changelog01:10
eliaspsdarkxst Ok. I dropped it termporarily there until I was sure, now building vinagre.01:11
eliaspsdarkxst vinagre_3.18.0-0ubuntu1~wily0.debdiff - http://pastebin.com/Z099pS6F01:27
eliaspsdarkxst dconf-editor_3.18.0-0ubuntu1~wily0.debdiff - http://pastebin.com/SNr5eZh902:10
eliaspsIf I'm bothering you with the pings you can propose another way of sending you these. I'm still learning, so I don't really know yet how you guys work. :)02:11
LinDol_hi all02:26
eliaspshi02:37
LinDol_eliasps, Thank you :) How are you today? :)02:39
eliaspsI'm OK LinDol_. And you?02:39
LinDol_haha I am ok too :)02:40
eliasps:)02:41
LinDol_eliasps, what time is it in there? :)02:55
darkxsteliasps, use something like  "debian/control.in: Bump build-depends on libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.44.0) and libgtk-3-dev (>= 3.16.0)" in the changelog02:56
eliaspsLinDol_ its 6 in the morning. Early :P02:57
eliaspsdarkxst, should I build it again and send it to you?02:57
darkxsteliasps, pings are fine, I will mostly be afk this arvo, but will go through them later02:57
darkxsteliasps, just edit the changelog, and recreate the debdiff02:57
eliaspsAlso, I didnt find a way to build gnome-logs without deleteting the patch02:57
eliaspsi run: quilt delete -r ...patch02:58
eliaspsIs that right?02:58
eliaspsWill do on the changelog02:59
LinDol_um.. Could i ask something about english sentence?03:08
eliaspsLinDol_ sure.03:13
LinDol_eliasps, Thank you :)03:13
LinDol_"I work in here", "I work here"03:13
LinDol_what is correct?03:14
eliaspsThe second one.03:14
LinDol_oh.. so.03:14
LinDol_"Do you work in there?" "Do you work there?"03:14
LinDol_how about this?03:14
eliaspsSame principle, the second one.03:15
LinDol_oh.. so, "here, there" word doesn't need 'in' always? :)03:15
eliaspsUnless you are referring to a room, like an office, a physical space.03:16
eliaspsNo, it doesn't.03:16
eliasps:)03:16
LinDol_ah..but if i am refering to a field or place, it needs 'in'?03:17
LinDol_ah...03:18
LinDol_ah!! > _< i understood it :)03:18
LinDol_in case of physical space, 'in' is needed03:22
eliaspsdarkxst I was about to leave so e-mailed you the debdiffs instead of pasting them here because you were out. :)03:48
eliaspsI have to go now. Thank you very much for your help! Talk soon.03:48
eliaspsBye everyone.03:48
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Inokihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/149992912:00
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1499929 in Ubuntu GNOME "Laptop turns off while it shouldn't" [Undecided,New]12:00
amjjawadInoki,12:27
amjjawadjust finished my 'long' phone call :( Inoki12:27
InokiYup?12:27
InokiThat's all right.12:27
amjjawadOk, let's see what we have here12:27
amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams12:28
InokiThe artwork and marketing could easily be merged into marketing.12:29
InokiEven by the name.12:30
amjjawadgive me one second12:30
amjjawad#startmeeting Ubuntu GNOME Sub-Teams12:30
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Sep 29 12:30:21 2015 UTC.  The chair is amjjawad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.12:30
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick12:30
amjjawad#topic HR Sub-Team12:30
amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Human_Resources12:30
amjjawadHR will be removed and each and every recruitment will be within each sub-team.12:31
amjjawadWe have agreed on that long time ago, just thought to confirm it :)12:31
InokiAgreed12:31
pvmatta6Yep12:31
pvmatta6Oh wait12:31
pvmatta6brb12:31
amjjawad#topic Packaging team12:31
amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Packaging12:32
amjjawadthis team will remain as it is. It is due to upload rights, etc so this won't be touched at all.12:32
amjjawad#topic Brainstorming Team12:32
amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Brainstorming12:32
amjjawadthis team will be removed due to the fact that it has never ever been active, not even once.12:32
AuttoMattaTrue.12:33
amjjawadWe have also agreed on that, just to confirm12:33
InokiYou're advancing too fast Ali.12:33
amjjawadbecause we have agreed on all that :)12:33
InokiBack to packaging, cant' it just be named Packaging (without the team)?12:33
InokiYou know, like Packaging, Development, Marketing, PR...12:33
amjjawadInoki, as I stated before, renaming any sub-team/team within launchpad means purging the mailing list.12:33
InokiOuch >.>12:33
amjjawadInoki, could we please focus on the function of each sub-team instead of the names?12:34
InokiOk12:34
amjjawadI care less about the names which are labels ;)12:34
amjjawadI care more about the function of the team.12:34
amjjawadcan we move on now?12:34
InokiYup12:34
AuttoMattaYes12:34
amjjawadgreat12:34
amjjawad#topic QA Team12:34
amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Testing_and_Reporting_Bugs12:34
amjjawadneedless to say, this is untouchable team :D12:34
amjjawadnothing will be done here.12:35
amjjawadall good?12:35
AuttoMattaOkay12:35
InokiI think Alfredo is on his way12:35
amjjawadno worries12:35
aldomannI'm alive and reading12:35
amjjawadthere will be a log ;)12:35
InokiGood12:35
amjjawadOh, here he is12:35
amjjawad:D12:35
amjjawad#topic Wiki and Doc Team12:35
amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Documentation12:35
amjjawadNow, this is yet another super important team. I was thinking to merge translations and Wiki in one team. Why? while Translations was part of marketing and communications team, the activities of translations were only within the scope of the wiki area.12:36
amjjawadThat said, I see it logical to put translations under wiki12:37
amjjawadthoughts?12:37
AuttoMattaI agree with you12:37
InokiI don't understand why were Translations a part of Marketing. Has nothing to do with that.12:37
AuttoMatta^12:37
amjjawadInoki, because Tim suggested that12:37
amjjawadhe didn't want to have 'more' sub-teams12:37
Inoki*cough* we can move on12:37
amjjawadhahahaha12:38
AuttoMattaXD12:38
aldomannyeah, as long as we only keep one main UG social media page, there's no sense in including it in marketing12:38
AuttoMattaYep12:38
amjjawadtranslations people have no activities else where12:38
aldomannalso, obviously the wiki is where the translations have been active]12:38
amjjawadtheir main activities were on the wiki12:38
AuttoMattaTrue that12:39
amjjawad#action amjjawad to merge translations under Wiki and Doc team and maybe create a new sub-team and rename the old one12:39
meetingologyACTION: amjjawad to merge translations under Wiki and Doc team and maybe create a new sub-team and rename the old one12:39
amjjawad#topic Marketing Team12:39
amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Marketing_and_Communications12:39
amjjawadNow, here is the most important part :D12:40
amjjawadI was thinking a lot about the name. IMHO, the best name would be "Marketing"12:40
amjjawadonly12:40
InokiYup12:40
AuttoMattaYus12:40
amjjawadaldomann, ?12:41
amjjawadhmm12:41
InokiI'll grab a tea, reading, don't worry. If delayed response you know why.12:41
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amjjawadInoki, no worries12:41
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amjjawadaldomann, :) what's going on?!12:42
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aldomann2my laptop froze in a loop12:42
amjjawad:/12:42
amjjawaddid you read what I sent earlier?12:42
amjjawad<amjjawad> I was thinking a lot about the name. IMHO, the best name would be "Marketing"12:43
amjjawad<amjjawad> only12:43
aldomann2weird thing, the music was in a small loop and could move the mouse or do anything with the keyboard12:43
aldomann2nah, lost between AutoMatta's "True that" and your last action12:43
amjjawadaldomann2, <amjjawad> I was thinking a lot about the name. IMHO, the best name would be "Marketing"12:44
amjjawad<amjjawad> only12:44
aldomann2for the Wiki and Doc team?12:44
amjjawadWe were talking about artwork + marketing12:44
aldomann2ah, all right12:44
aldomann2well, the functions are the same; I don't really care about the name :)12:44
amjjawadaldomann2, that's my man :D12:45
amjjawad#action amjjawad to finally merge artwork + marketing and name the new team Marketing only12:46
meetingologyACTION: amjjawad to finally merge artwork + marketing and name the new team Marketing only12:46
amjjawad#topic artwork team12:46
amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Artwork_.26_Design12:46
aldomann2my only concern about changing the names is the mailing lists12:46
amjjawadgoodbye artwork team :P12:46
amjjawadaldomann2, I'll handle that, no worries. We shall have 'new' team and 'new' mailing list.12:46
Inokiidk, was there much communication before I came? Just askin'12:46
amjjawadI will 'not' remove the 'old' teams nor the 'old' mailing list.12:46
aldomann2okay, and we keep the old ones for archiving purposes?12:47
aldomann2perfect :)12:47
amjjawadI will never delete anything12:47
amjjawadwill keep them as they're just in case12:47
amjjawadI already changed the name of artwork team12:47
amjjawad#topic Translations12:47
amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Translations12:47
amjjawadas has been agreed, this will be under Wiki12:48
amjjawad#topic Development12:48
amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Developing_and_Coding12:48
amjjawadthis will be hidden from our Wiki area12:48
amjjawadonly those who are active + have experience + upload rights will be joining the dev team12:48
amjjawadit's strictly for them. Not open for everyone.12:49
AuttoMattaAlright.12:49
amjjawad#topic Sub-Team Wiki Page12:49
amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams12:49
amjjawad#action amjjawad to update the entire page to reflect the 'new' changes.12:49
meetingologyACTION: amjjawad to update the entire page to reflect the 'new' changes.12:49
amjjawad#topic Qs12:49
amjjawadany Q?12:49
aldomann2well, yeah12:50
amjjawadaldomann2, shoot :)12:50
aldomann2can you quickly name the new teams, so we can create the corresponding logos/icons for the Launchpad pages12:50
amjjawadaldomann2, how about waiting for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams to be updateD?12:50
amjjawadif you need that now, sure12:50
aldomann2ah, also that :P12:51
aldomann2no hurry12:51
amjjawad(1) Packaging Sub-Team12:51
amjjawad(2) QA Sub-Team12:51
amjjawad(3) Documentation Sub-Team12:51
amjjawad(4) Marketing Sub-Team12:51
amjjawadOps, I forgot one12:52
amjjawad(5) Human Development Sub-Team12:52
amjjawad#topic NEW Sub-Team - Human Development12:52
AuttoMattaHuman Resources?12:52
AuttoMattaOh okay12:52
amjjawadNo, it's not like that12:52
amjjawadrecruitment will be done within each sub-team.12:53
aldomann2and Brainstorming, right?12:53
amjjawadThe leaders of that sub-team should know whether they need more staff or not.12:53
amjjawadbrainstorming is gone.12:53
amjjawadit will happen on the general list12:53
aldomann2oh, shoot, we won't be using blueprints anymore?12:53
amjjawadit's on going process that does not need a team12:53
amjjawadno, we shall use that. It has nothing to do with brainstorming sub-team12:53
amjjawadit's just the entry of "brainstorming" will be removed12:54
amjjawadHuman Development sub-team focuses on 2 main parts12:54
amjjawadA- newcomers12:54
InokiHaving a general brainstorming team where all the brainstorming happens for all the other teams is kind of pointless imo. Each team does its own planning.12:54
amjjawadB- Excising members12:54
amjjawadInoki, indeed.12:55
amjjawadIn fact, the 'main' reason why I created the brainstorming team 2 years ago was to plan in advance for our project which never happen.12:55
aldomann2yeah, but the thing is all blueprints are located there; we'll now use blueprints for each team instead of making them all in the Brainstorming team?12:55
amjjawadWe had no manpower to plan for Ubuntu+212:55
amjjawadwe were almost planning for Ubuntu+112:55
Inokiidk aldomann2, I haven't witnessed much activity on those blueprints, hence my doubts.12:56
amjjawadaldomann2, nothing will change. If you remember, I was assigning the blueprints to the proper team12:56
amjjawaddon't worry about it.12:56
amjjawadStarting with next cycle, we shall use the blueprints again12:56
amjjawaddon't worry about that now ;)12:56
amjjawadto finish the topic ..12:57
amjjawadHD = Human Development will focus on (a) newcomers. (b) current members.12:57
aldomann2okay, but technically the team will still exist in the shadows (at least the launchpad page), am I right? Sorry to be too insisting12:57
amjjawadWhat will happen? those who think they're zero and know nothing, we shall empower them, inspire them and help them to get started.12:57
amjjawadAlso, we can help them and make them move from just members to leaders or active contributors.12:58
amjjawadaldomann2, I will not delete it but it won't be used - example: its mailing list will not be used.12:58
InokiOk, but does that really need another team? Will that team have tutors?12:58
InokiShouldn't the tutors be members of a particular team?12:59
amjjawadeach new blueprint will be assigned to the sub-team that match its topic.12:59
amjjawadI have something in mind for the future12:59
AuttoMattaSO basically it's like a training area to learn and polish skills?12:59
aldomann2amjjawad, okay, got it12:59
amjjawadthat's why I like to introduce HD team12:59
InokiTo me, HD = HR.12:59
amjjawadNo.12:59
amjjawadit's way different13:00
amjjawadI have special skills13:00
amjjawadI can empower people and inspire them in no time.13:00
amjjawadI have done that so many times.13:00
amjjawadNewcomers will feel super bad13:00
amjjawadthey usually feel they are zero. We shall make them feel like heroes.13:00
InokiBut, shouldn't it be in people's own interest to cultivate their skills?13:00
amjjawadwe shall offer that as a help.13:00
amjjawadWhoever wish to improve his/her skills, he/she is more than welcome.13:01
amjjawadIf no one is interested, our doors will remain open.13:01
InokiWhen I think of this I think of Charlie and that you now feel you need a team designated specially for newcomers like him >.>13:01
amjjawadCharlie?13:01
aldomann2ah, legendary Charlie13:01
amjjawadhmmm13:01
amjjawadthe one who left?13:01
InokiYeah, that guy, who complained how nobody babysit him.13:02
amjjawadAh13:02
amjjawadwell, it's even beyond13:02
amjjawadnot only newcomers but also current ones13:02
amjjawadover a year and a half, I have worked with people who were failures.13:02
amjjawadNow, they're leading the way13:02
amjjawadyes, it drained my entire energy but I love the result.13:03
InokiQ: you said you wanna work with them, help them develop. Isn't that contra-productive since you have few time?13:03
amjjawadI want Ubuntu GNOME to be different from other flavors13:03
amjjawadI have developed new skills in the process :)13:04
InokiNot to ruin your vision Ali, but you already seem to carry a lot on your shoulders.13:04
amjjawadI know13:04
amjjawadbut this new team won't see any action until next cycle13:04
amjjawadI might find someone to drive it during that time.13:04
amjjawaddon't worry, I do see your point Inoki13:05
amjjawadwe can always revert back.13:05
amjjawadit's a matter of a vote + an email to announce whether this sub-team is ok or not ok.13:05
InokiOk, you know. Just trying to illustrate it on a good example I believe: a powerplant. It works, it powers everything, but if it gets to a point of overload it explodes, devastating everything.13:05
amjjawadI see your point Inoki :D13:06
amjjawadno worries13:06
amjjawadI learned over the years how to be faster13:06
Inokikk13:06
amjjawad#action amjjawad to double check the name of human development team13:07
meetingologyACTION: amjjawad to double check the name of human development team13:07
amjjawadTim was against the name but I explained to him that we should focus on the function, not the name.13:07
amjjawadso aldomann2 we have 5 sub-teams13:07
amjjawadFrom 9 to 5 :)13:08
aldomann2yeah, that's nice13:08
amjjawadAh, the website will be under marketing and same goes for the social media13:08
amjjawad#action amjjawad makes sure to give Inoki access13:08
meetingologyACTION: amjjawad makes sure to give Inoki access13:08
amjjawad#topic others13:08
amjjawadwhat else?13:08
aldomann2Testing team? shouldn't it be listed there as well13:09
aldomann2that'd make 6 subteams, right?13:10
amjjawadaldomann2, QA = Testing :D13:10
amjjawadNo, still 513:10
aldomann2ah, true13:10
amjjawad<amjjawad> (1) Packaging Sub-Team13:10
amjjawad<amjjawad> (2) QA Sub-Team13:10
amjjawad<amjjawad> (3) Documentation Sub-Team13:10
amjjawad<amjjawad> (4) Marketing Sub-Team13:10
amjjawad<amjjawad> Ops, I forgot one13:10
amjjawad<amjjawad> (5) Human Development Sub-Team13:10
aldomann2perfect then13:10
amjjawad:D13:11
amjjawadany other Q?13:11
InokiMaybe off topic, but a meeting where we would discuss the shape of the OS would be nice, i.e. to follow the promise of a "pure gnome experience"13:11
AuttoMatta^13:11
amjjawadInoki, the same topic that you guys were discussing on Telegram?13:12
InokiKinda, to include more gnome apps instead of their alternatives13:12
AuttoMattaYes, if I am getting him correctly.13:12
InokiTo consider it a Gnome OS13:12
amjjawadthat's need a new meeting13:12
InokiSo ppl get a complete Gnome experience13:12
amjjawadand Tim must be attending that one too13:12
InokiYeah, the logo13:13
Inokiwhat's next on that front13:13
amjjawad#topic logo13:13
InokiWe need a person inside Gnome to communicate with13:13
InokiThat should be default since we ship Gnome13:14
amjjawadas per Tim, and as we discussed over Telegram, we need to: (1) contact GNOME. (2) wait for their reply. (3) keep nagging and nagging until we get a reply.13:14
InokiIt's like "we ship it, but have no relations with them"13:14
InokiWe did all that13:14
amjjawadthen why there was no reply from their side?13:15
InokiWe need a liaison of some kind13:15
InokiNo idea. aldomann2?13:15
InokiI think it would be to our great benefit of having a person to act like a bridge between us and gnome. To talk everything through, latest stuff, even if it doesn't (yet) concern us. Just to stay informed and keep informend.13:16
aldomann2no idea whatsoever13:16
InokiWhatever would need to be done would be done via that person, who would be the communication channel with them.13:17
amjjawadInoki, as always, the main issue is lack of manpower13:17
amjjawadthat said, we need someone from us.13:17
AuttoMattaMore like a external affairs person13:17
AuttoMattaan *13:18
amjjawadAuttoMatta, it is so hard to find that person.13:18
AuttoMattaExactly. Hardly anybody considers that thing.13:18
InokiProblem is we cannot function without a link like this. Now we can see, when we need to discuss stuff regarding our identity, that we cannot reach them and time's against us.13:18
amjjawadInoki, we don't need that complication. KISS (Keep It Simple and Short). That said, we just need to be nice and polite with them, that's all.13:19
amjjawadWe need someone from GNOME who work with them but he/she should be active.13:20
aldomann2From the last reply in the e-mail (Allan Day): Thanks for keeping us in the loop, Alfredo! We're working on this ourselves - we've just got to get the legal side worked out.13:20
amjjawadaldomann2, when was that?13:21
aldomann2two months exactly (29th of July)13:21
amjjawadO_o13:22
amjjawadWHAT?13:22
amjjawadthen, as I suggested, we need to keep nagging and nagging :(13:22
amjjawadby nagging I mean keep sending to them.13:22
AuttoMattaYes. Exactly why we need a sort of representative for permissions and stuff.13:22
amjjawadBut let's be nice and polite, please.13:23
InokiHaving a representative with them would be nice and no nagging would be needed, but ok.13:25
AuttoMattaSometimes the label do have a certain weight on people, you see. If @aldomann2 would have introduced himself as a External Affairs Manager or some sort, he would have gotten more attention possibly.13:28
aldomann2idk, I really think they are looking into it13:28
InokiAnyway, we need to get a final response and stress to them, that we are shortly before a release (!).13:28
AuttoMatta^ Yes13:29
aldomann2judging from the e-mail Patrik sent us, they seem to have quite a bunch of issues with their trademark and legal stuff13:29
InokiWhat we think we know and what is reality are different things.13:29
InokiBut with this logo we are doing them a favour.13:29
aldomann2yes, that's our view13:29
aldomann2but I would kinda understand if they were concerned about us usingit13:30
aldomann2the problem is the following13:30
InokiSomeone should get in touch with them again and this time it should be someone in Ali's position, maybe even Ali.13:30
aldomann2they WERE already okay with it13:30
amjjawadI don't think it is about roles and titles here.13:30
amjjawadaldomann2, is already a team-leader13:31
amjjawada core member13:31
aldomann2they should be okayer (pun intended) now that we have implemented all their feedback in the logo13:31
amjjawadAnyway, I might send them an email from my @gnome.org13:31
amjjawadaldomann2, can you please email me the name of the person to get contact with?13:31
Inokithat's what I'm talking about. You're also a Ubuntu member, maybe it counts, idk.13:31
amjjawadInoki, I don't think so but no harm to try ..13:32
aldomann2I'll send a new reply to the existing e-mail and include you in the CC13:32
InokiWe have to, we're short on time.13:32
aldomann2sounds right? amjjawad13:32
aldomann2?13:32
AuttoMattaCC sounds right13:32
amjjawadaldomann2, perfect ;)13:33
amjjawadinclude both @ubuntu and @gnome :P hehe13:33
InokiSend them also the link https://www.behance.net/gallery/25233455/Ubuntu-GNOME so they can see themselves if they haven't already.13:33
amjjawad#action aldomann2 to send https://www.behance.net/gallery/25233455/Ubuntu-GNOME to GNOME foundation CC amjjawad13:34
meetingologyACTION: aldomann2 to send https://www.behance.net/gallery/25233455/Ubuntu-GNOME to GNOME foundation CC amjjawad13:34
aldomann2they already have the link13:35
amjjawadreminding is always good :D13:35
amjjawaddon't you see when I send an email, I do remind people over and over again?13:36
amjjawadto re-program your unconscious mind,  you do that with repeating over and over again13:36
amjjawadI must sleep13:41
amjjawadanything else to discuss?13:41
aldomann2nope13:41
InokiNope13:41
aldomann2anyway, e-mail sent13:42
amjjawadquickly, what happened to the website? :/13:42
aldomann2you should've gotten it already13:42
aldomann2Gaurav has already a preview: http://demo.magikpress.com/ug/#13:42
aldomann2he's trying to get the technical stuff about the hosting solved before moving on13:43
amjjawadI see.13:43
amjjawad#action amjjawad Inoki aldomann2 to discuss the new website later13:44
meetingologyACTION: amjjawad Inoki aldomann2 to discuss the new website later13:44
amjjawadI'll end this meeting (log). Many thanks :D13:44
InokiGonna be on Telegram, laters, and thanks13:44
amjjawad#endmeeting13:45
meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Sep 29 13:45:04 2015 UTC.13:45
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-gnome/2015/ubuntu-gnome.2015-09-29-12.30.moin.txt13:45
amjjawadwe can share the link later on the main mailing list13:45
amjjawadmust go now, many thanks .. was a great meeting ..13:45
amjjawadCya ZzZz13:45
aldomann2cya, brother13:46
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