| eliasps | darkxst on dconf-editor, I see on the upstream source code in the configure.ac that dependency: +GLIB_REQUIRED=2.44.0 | 00:22 |
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| eliasps | but on debian/control.in is: libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.39.3) | 00:23 |
| eliasps | do I change the number? | 00:23 |
| darkxst | eliasps, yes you update that | 01:09 |
| darkxst | and note the cahnge in the changelog | 01:10 |
| eliasps | darkxst Ok. I dropped it termporarily there until I was sure, now building vinagre. | 01:11 |
| eliasps | darkxst vinagre_3.18.0-0ubuntu1~wily0.debdiff - http://pastebin.com/Z099pS6F | 01:27 |
| eliasps | darkxst dconf-editor_3.18.0-0ubuntu1~wily0.debdiff - http://pastebin.com/SNr5eZh9 | 02:10 |
| eliasps | If I'm bothering you with the pings you can propose another way of sending you these. I'm still learning, so I don't really know yet how you guys work. :) | 02:11 |
| LinDol_ | hi all | 02:26 |
| eliasps | hi | 02:37 |
| LinDol_ | eliasps, Thank you :) How are you today? :) | 02:39 |
| eliasps | I'm OK LinDol_. And you? | 02:39 |
| LinDol_ | haha I am ok too :) | 02:40 |
| eliasps | :) | 02:41 |
| LinDol_ | eliasps, what time is it in there? :) | 02:55 |
| darkxst | eliasps, use something like "debian/control.in: Bump build-depends on libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.44.0) and libgtk-3-dev (>= 3.16.0)" in the changelog | 02:56 |
| eliasps | LinDol_ its 6 in the morning. Early :P | 02:57 |
| eliasps | darkxst, should I build it again and send it to you? | 02:57 |
| darkxst | eliasps, pings are fine, I will mostly be afk this arvo, but will go through them later | 02:57 |
| darkxst | eliasps, just edit the changelog, and recreate the debdiff | 02:57 |
| eliasps | Also, I didnt find a way to build gnome-logs without deleteting the patch | 02:57 |
| eliasps | i run: quilt delete -r ...patch | 02:58 |
| eliasps | Is that right? | 02:58 |
| eliasps | Will do on the changelog | 02:59 |
| LinDol_ | um.. Could i ask something about english sentence? | 03:08 |
| eliasps | LinDol_ sure. | 03:13 |
| LinDol_ | eliasps, Thank you :) | 03:13 |
| LinDol_ | "I work in here", "I work here" | 03:13 |
| LinDol_ | what is correct? | 03:14 |
| eliasps | The second one. | 03:14 |
| LinDol_ | oh.. so. | 03:14 |
| LinDol_ | "Do you work in there?" "Do you work there?" | 03:14 |
| LinDol_ | how about this? | 03:14 |
| eliasps | Same principle, the second one. | 03:15 |
| LinDol_ | oh.. so, "here, there" word doesn't need 'in' always? :) | 03:15 |
| eliasps | Unless you are referring to a room, like an office, a physical space. | 03:16 |
| eliasps | No, it doesn't. | 03:16 |
| eliasps | :) | 03:16 |
| LinDol_ | ah..but if i am refering to a field or place, it needs 'in'? | 03:17 |
| LinDol_ | ah... | 03:18 |
| LinDol_ | ah!! > _< i understood it :) | 03:18 |
| LinDol_ | in case of physical space, 'in' is needed | 03:22 |
| eliasps | darkxst I was about to leave so e-mailed you the debdiffs instead of pasting them here because you were out. :) | 03:48 |
| eliasps | I have to go now. Thank you very much for your help! Talk soon. | 03:48 |
| eliasps | Bye everyone. | 03:48 |
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| Inoki | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1499929 | 12:00 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1499929 in Ubuntu GNOME "Laptop turns off while it shouldn't" [Undecided,New] | 12:00 |
| amjjawad | Inoki, | 12:27 |
| amjjawad | just finished my 'long' phone call :( Inoki | 12:27 |
| Inoki | Yup? | 12:27 |
| Inoki | That's all right. | 12:27 |
| amjjawad | Ok, let's see what we have here | 12:27 |
| amjjawad | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams | 12:28 |
| Inoki | The artwork and marketing could easily be merged into marketing. | 12:29 |
| Inoki | Even by the name. | 12:30 |
| amjjawad | give me one second | 12:30 |
| amjjawad | #startmeeting Ubuntu GNOME Sub-Teams | 12:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Sep 29 12:30:21 2015 UTC. The chair is amjjawad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 12:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 12:30 |
| amjjawad | #topic HR Sub-Team | 12:30 |
| amjjawad | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Human_Resources | 12:30 |
| amjjawad | HR will be removed and each and every recruitment will be within each sub-team. | 12:31 |
| amjjawad | We have agreed on that long time ago, just thought to confirm it :) | 12:31 |
| Inoki | Agreed | 12:31 |
| pvmatta6 | Yep | 12:31 |
| pvmatta6 | Oh wait | 12:31 |
| pvmatta6 | brb | 12:31 |
| amjjawad | #topic Packaging team | 12:31 |
| amjjawad | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Packaging | 12:32 |
| amjjawad | this team will remain as it is. It is due to upload rights, etc so this won't be touched at all. | 12:32 |
| amjjawad | #topic Brainstorming Team | 12:32 |
| amjjawad | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Brainstorming | 12:32 |
| amjjawad | this team will be removed due to the fact that it has never ever been active, not even once. | 12:32 |
| AuttoMatta | True. | 12:33 |
| amjjawad | We have also agreed on that, just to confirm | 12:33 |
| Inoki | You're advancing too fast Ali. | 12:33 |
| amjjawad | because we have agreed on all that :) | 12:33 |
| Inoki | Back to packaging, cant' it just be named Packaging (without the team)? | 12:33 |
| Inoki | You know, like Packaging, Development, Marketing, PR... | 12:33 |
| amjjawad | Inoki, as I stated before, renaming any sub-team/team within launchpad means purging the mailing list. | 12:33 |
| Inoki | Ouch >.> | 12:33 |
| amjjawad | Inoki, could we please focus on the function of each sub-team instead of the names? | 12:34 |
| Inoki | Ok | 12:34 |
| amjjawad | I care less about the names which are labels ;) | 12:34 |
| amjjawad | I care more about the function of the team. | 12:34 |
| amjjawad | can we move on now? | 12:34 |
| Inoki | Yup | 12:34 |
| AuttoMatta | Yes | 12:34 |
| amjjawad | great | 12:34 |
| amjjawad | #topic QA Team | 12:34 |
| amjjawad | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Testing_and_Reporting_Bugs | 12:34 |
| amjjawad | needless to say, this is untouchable team :D | 12:34 |
| amjjawad | nothing will be done here. | 12:35 |
| amjjawad | all good? | 12:35 |
| AuttoMatta | Okay | 12:35 |
| Inoki | I think Alfredo is on his way | 12:35 |
| amjjawad | no worries | 12:35 |
| aldomann | I'm alive and reading | 12:35 |
| amjjawad | there will be a log ;) | 12:35 |
| Inoki | Good | 12:35 |
| amjjawad | Oh, here he is | 12:35 |
| amjjawad | :D | 12:35 |
| amjjawad | #topic Wiki and Doc Team | 12:35 |
| amjjawad | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Documentation | 12:35 |
| amjjawad | Now, this is yet another super important team. I was thinking to merge translations and Wiki in one team. Why? while Translations was part of marketing and communications team, the activities of translations were only within the scope of the wiki area. | 12:36 |
| amjjawad | That said, I see it logical to put translations under wiki | 12:37 |
| amjjawad | thoughts? | 12:37 |
| AuttoMatta | I agree with you | 12:37 |
| Inoki | I don't understand why were Translations a part of Marketing. Has nothing to do with that. | 12:37 |
| AuttoMatta | ^ | 12:37 |
| amjjawad | Inoki, because Tim suggested that | 12:37 |
| amjjawad | he didn't want to have 'more' sub-teams | 12:37 |
| Inoki | *cough* we can move on | 12:37 |
| amjjawad | hahahaha | 12:38 |
| AuttoMatta | XD | 12:38 |
| aldomann | yeah, as long as we only keep one main UG social media page, there's no sense in including it in marketing | 12:38 |
| AuttoMatta | Yep | 12:38 |
| amjjawad | translations people have no activities else where | 12:38 |
| aldomann | also, obviously the wiki is where the translations have been active] | 12:38 |
| amjjawad | their main activities were on the wiki | 12:38 |
| AuttoMatta | True that | 12:39 |
| amjjawad | #action amjjawad to merge translations under Wiki and Doc team and maybe create a new sub-team and rename the old one | 12:39 |
| meetingology | ACTION: amjjawad to merge translations under Wiki and Doc team and maybe create a new sub-team and rename the old one | 12:39 |
| amjjawad | #topic Marketing Team | 12:39 |
| amjjawad | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Marketing_and_Communications | 12:39 |
| amjjawad | Now, here is the most important part :D | 12:40 |
| amjjawad | I was thinking a lot about the name. IMHO, the best name would be "Marketing" | 12:40 |
| amjjawad | only | 12:40 |
| Inoki | Yup | 12:40 |
| AuttoMatta | Yus | 12:40 |
| amjjawad | aldomann, ? | 12:41 |
| amjjawad | hmm | 12:41 |
| Inoki | I'll grab a tea, reading, don't worry. If delayed response you know why. | 12:41 |
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| amjjawad | Inoki, no worries | 12:41 |
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| amjjawad | aldomann, :) what's going on?! | 12:42 |
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| aldomann2 | my laptop froze in a loop | 12:42 |
| amjjawad | :/ | 12:42 |
| amjjawad | did you read what I sent earlier? | 12:42 |
| amjjawad | <amjjawad> I was thinking a lot about the name. IMHO, the best name would be "Marketing" | 12:43 |
| amjjawad | <amjjawad> only | 12:43 |
| aldomann2 | weird thing, the music was in a small loop and could move the mouse or do anything with the keyboard | 12:43 |
| aldomann2 | nah, lost between AutoMatta's "True that" and your last action | 12:43 |
| amjjawad | aldomann2, <amjjawad> I was thinking a lot about the name. IMHO, the best name would be "Marketing" | 12:44 |
| amjjawad | <amjjawad> only | 12:44 |
| aldomann2 | for the Wiki and Doc team? | 12:44 |
| amjjawad | We were talking about artwork + marketing | 12:44 |
| aldomann2 | ah, all right | 12:44 |
| aldomann2 | well, the functions are the same; I don't really care about the name :) | 12:44 |
| amjjawad | aldomann2, that's my man :D | 12:45 |
| amjjawad | #action amjjawad to finally merge artwork + marketing and name the new team Marketing only | 12:46 |
| meetingology | ACTION: amjjawad to finally merge artwork + marketing and name the new team Marketing only | 12:46 |
| amjjawad | #topic artwork team | 12:46 |
| amjjawad | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Artwork_.26_Design | 12:46 |
| aldomann2 | my only concern about changing the names is the mailing lists | 12:46 |
| amjjawad | goodbye artwork team :P | 12:46 |
| amjjawad | aldomann2, I'll handle that, no worries. We shall have 'new' team and 'new' mailing list. | 12:46 |
| Inoki | idk, was there much communication before I came? Just askin' | 12:46 |
| amjjawad | I will 'not' remove the 'old' teams nor the 'old' mailing list. | 12:46 |
| aldomann2 | okay, and we keep the old ones for archiving purposes? | 12:47 |
| aldomann2 | perfect :) | 12:47 |
| amjjawad | I will never delete anything | 12:47 |
| amjjawad | will keep them as they're just in case | 12:47 |
| amjjawad | I already changed the name of artwork team | 12:47 |
| amjjawad | #topic Translations | 12:47 |
| amjjawad | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Translations | 12:47 |
| amjjawad | as has been agreed, this will be under Wiki | 12:48 |
| amjjawad | #topic Development | 12:48 |
| amjjawad | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Developing_and_Coding | 12:48 |
| amjjawad | this will be hidden from our Wiki area | 12:48 |
| amjjawad | only those who are active + have experience + upload rights will be joining the dev team | 12:48 |
| amjjawad | it's strictly for them. Not open for everyone. | 12:49 |
| AuttoMatta | Alright. | 12:49 |
| amjjawad | #topic Sub-Team Wiki Page | 12:49 |
| amjjawad | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams | 12:49 |
| amjjawad | #action amjjawad to update the entire page to reflect the 'new' changes. | 12:49 |
| meetingology | ACTION: amjjawad to update the entire page to reflect the 'new' changes. | 12:49 |
| amjjawad | #topic Qs | 12:49 |
| amjjawad | any Q? | 12:49 |
| aldomann2 | well, yeah | 12:50 |
| amjjawad | aldomann2, shoot :) | 12:50 |
| aldomann2 | can you quickly name the new teams, so we can create the corresponding logos/icons for the Launchpad pages | 12:50 |
| amjjawad | aldomann2, how about waiting for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams to be updateD? | 12:50 |
| amjjawad | if you need that now, sure | 12:50 |
| aldomann2 | ah, also that :P | 12:51 |
| aldomann2 | no hurry | 12:51 |
| amjjawad | (1) Packaging Sub-Team | 12:51 |
| amjjawad | (2) QA Sub-Team | 12:51 |
| amjjawad | (3) Documentation Sub-Team | 12:51 |
| amjjawad | (4) Marketing Sub-Team | 12:51 |
| amjjawad | Ops, I forgot one | 12:52 |
| amjjawad | (5) Human Development Sub-Team | 12:52 |
| amjjawad | #topic NEW Sub-Team - Human Development | 12:52 |
| AuttoMatta | Human Resources? | 12:52 |
| AuttoMatta | Oh okay | 12:52 |
| amjjawad | No, it's not like that | 12:52 |
| amjjawad | recruitment will be done within each sub-team. | 12:53 |
| aldomann2 | and Brainstorming, right? | 12:53 |
| amjjawad | The leaders of that sub-team should know whether they need more staff or not. | 12:53 |
| amjjawad | brainstorming is gone. | 12:53 |
| amjjawad | it will happen on the general list | 12:53 |
| aldomann2 | oh, shoot, we won't be using blueprints anymore? | 12:53 |
| amjjawad | it's on going process that does not need a team | 12:53 |
| amjjawad | no, we shall use that. It has nothing to do with brainstorming sub-team | 12:53 |
| amjjawad | it's just the entry of "brainstorming" will be removed | 12:54 |
| amjjawad | Human Development sub-team focuses on 2 main parts | 12:54 |
| amjjawad | A- newcomers | 12:54 |
| Inoki | Having a general brainstorming team where all the brainstorming happens for all the other teams is kind of pointless imo. Each team does its own planning. | 12:54 |
| amjjawad | B- Excising members | 12:54 |
| amjjawad | Inoki, indeed. | 12:55 |
| amjjawad | In fact, the 'main' reason why I created the brainstorming team 2 years ago was to plan in advance for our project which never happen. | 12:55 |
| aldomann2 | yeah, but the thing is all blueprints are located there; we'll now use blueprints for each team instead of making them all in the Brainstorming team? | 12:55 |
| amjjawad | We had no manpower to plan for Ubuntu+2 | 12:55 |
| amjjawad | we were almost planning for Ubuntu+1 | 12:55 |
| Inoki | idk aldomann2, I haven't witnessed much activity on those blueprints, hence my doubts. | 12:56 |
| amjjawad | aldomann2, nothing will change. If you remember, I was assigning the blueprints to the proper team | 12:56 |
| amjjawad | don't worry about it. | 12:56 |
| amjjawad | Starting with next cycle, we shall use the blueprints again | 12:56 |
| amjjawad | don't worry about that now ;) | 12:56 |
| amjjawad | to finish the topic .. | 12:57 |
| amjjawad | HD = Human Development will focus on (a) newcomers. (b) current members. | 12:57 |
| aldomann2 | okay, but technically the team will still exist in the shadows (at least the launchpad page), am I right? Sorry to be too insisting | 12:57 |
| amjjawad | What will happen? those who think they're zero and know nothing, we shall empower them, inspire them and help them to get started. | 12:57 |
| amjjawad | Also, we can help them and make them move from just members to leaders or active contributors. | 12:58 |
| amjjawad | aldomann2, I will not delete it but it won't be used - example: its mailing list will not be used. | 12:58 |
| Inoki | Ok, but does that really need another team? Will that team have tutors? | 12:58 |
| Inoki | Shouldn't the tutors be members of a particular team? | 12:59 |
| amjjawad | each new blueprint will be assigned to the sub-team that match its topic. | 12:59 |
| amjjawad | I have something in mind for the future | 12:59 |
| AuttoMatta | SO basically it's like a training area to learn and polish skills? | 12:59 |
| aldomann2 | amjjawad, okay, got it | 12:59 |
| amjjawad | that's why I like to introduce HD team | 12:59 |
| Inoki | To me, HD = HR. | 12:59 |
| amjjawad | No. | 12:59 |
| amjjawad | it's way different | 13:00 |
| amjjawad | I have special skills | 13:00 |
| amjjawad | I can empower people and inspire them in no time. | 13:00 |
| amjjawad | I have done that so many times. | 13:00 |
| amjjawad | Newcomers will feel super bad | 13:00 |
| amjjawad | they usually feel they are zero. We shall make them feel like heroes. | 13:00 |
| Inoki | But, shouldn't it be in people's own interest to cultivate their skills? | 13:00 |
| amjjawad | we shall offer that as a help. | 13:00 |
| amjjawad | Whoever wish to improve his/her skills, he/she is more than welcome. | 13:01 |
| amjjawad | If no one is interested, our doors will remain open. | 13:01 |
| Inoki | When I think of this I think of Charlie and that you now feel you need a team designated specially for newcomers like him >.> | 13:01 |
| amjjawad | Charlie? | 13:01 |
| aldomann2 | ah, legendary Charlie | 13:01 |
| amjjawad | hmmm | 13:01 |
| amjjawad | the one who left? | 13:01 |
| Inoki | Yeah, that guy, who complained how nobody babysit him. | 13:02 |
| amjjawad | Ah | 13:02 |
| amjjawad | well, it's even beyond | 13:02 |
| amjjawad | not only newcomers but also current ones | 13:02 |
| amjjawad | over a year and a half, I have worked with people who were failures. | 13:02 |
| amjjawad | Now, they're leading the way | 13:02 |
| amjjawad | yes, it drained my entire energy but I love the result. | 13:03 |
| Inoki | Q: you said you wanna work with them, help them develop. Isn't that contra-productive since you have few time? | 13:03 |
| amjjawad | I want Ubuntu GNOME to be different from other flavors | 13:03 |
| amjjawad | I have developed new skills in the process :) | 13:04 |
| Inoki | Not to ruin your vision Ali, but you already seem to carry a lot on your shoulders. | 13:04 |
| amjjawad | I know | 13:04 |
| amjjawad | but this new team won't see any action until next cycle | 13:04 |
| amjjawad | I might find someone to drive it during that time. | 13:04 |
| amjjawad | don't worry, I do see your point Inoki | 13:05 |
| amjjawad | we can always revert back. | 13:05 |
| amjjawad | it's a matter of a vote + an email to announce whether this sub-team is ok or not ok. | 13:05 |
| Inoki | Ok, you know. Just trying to illustrate it on a good example I believe: a powerplant. It works, it powers everything, but if it gets to a point of overload it explodes, devastating everything. | 13:05 |
| amjjawad | I see your point Inoki :D | 13:06 |
| amjjawad | no worries | 13:06 |
| amjjawad | I learned over the years how to be faster | 13:06 |
| Inoki | kk | 13:06 |
| amjjawad | #action amjjawad to double check the name of human development team | 13:07 |
| meetingology | ACTION: amjjawad to double check the name of human development team | 13:07 |
| amjjawad | Tim was against the name but I explained to him that we should focus on the function, not the name. | 13:07 |
| amjjawad | so aldomann2 we have 5 sub-teams | 13:07 |
| amjjawad | From 9 to 5 :) | 13:08 |
| aldomann2 | yeah, that's nice | 13:08 |
| amjjawad | Ah, the website will be under marketing and same goes for the social media | 13:08 |
| amjjawad | #action amjjawad makes sure to give Inoki access | 13:08 |
| meetingology | ACTION: amjjawad makes sure to give Inoki access | 13:08 |
| amjjawad | #topic others | 13:08 |
| amjjawad | what else? | 13:08 |
| aldomann2 | Testing team? shouldn't it be listed there as well | 13:09 |
| aldomann2 | that'd make 6 subteams, right? | 13:10 |
| amjjawad | aldomann2, QA = Testing :D | 13:10 |
| amjjawad | No, still 5 | 13:10 |
| aldomann2 | ah, true | 13:10 |
| amjjawad | <amjjawad> (1) Packaging Sub-Team | 13:10 |
| amjjawad | <amjjawad> (2) QA Sub-Team | 13:10 |
| amjjawad | <amjjawad> (3) Documentation Sub-Team | 13:10 |
| amjjawad | <amjjawad> (4) Marketing Sub-Team | 13:10 |
| amjjawad | <amjjawad> Ops, I forgot one | 13:10 |
| amjjawad | <amjjawad> (5) Human Development Sub-Team | 13:10 |
| aldomann2 | perfect then | 13:10 |
| amjjawad | :D | 13:11 |
| amjjawad | any other Q? | 13:11 |
| Inoki | Maybe off topic, but a meeting where we would discuss the shape of the OS would be nice, i.e. to follow the promise of a "pure gnome experience" | 13:11 |
| AuttoMatta | ^ | 13:11 |
| amjjawad | Inoki, the same topic that you guys were discussing on Telegram? | 13:12 |
| Inoki | Kinda, to include more gnome apps instead of their alternatives | 13:12 |
| AuttoMatta | Yes, if I am getting him correctly. | 13:12 |
| Inoki | To consider it a Gnome OS | 13:12 |
| amjjawad | that's need a new meeting | 13:12 |
| Inoki | So ppl get a complete Gnome experience | 13:12 |
| amjjawad | and Tim must be attending that one too | 13:12 |
| Inoki | Yeah, the logo | 13:13 |
| Inoki | what's next on that front | 13:13 |
| amjjawad | #topic logo | 13:13 |
| Inoki | We need a person inside Gnome to communicate with | 13:13 |
| Inoki | That should be default since we ship Gnome | 13:14 |
| amjjawad | as per Tim, and as we discussed over Telegram, we need to: (1) contact GNOME. (2) wait for their reply. (3) keep nagging and nagging until we get a reply. | 13:14 |
| Inoki | It's like "we ship it, but have no relations with them" | 13:14 |
| Inoki | We did all that | 13:14 |
| amjjawad | then why there was no reply from their side? | 13:15 |
| Inoki | We need a liaison of some kind | 13:15 |
| Inoki | No idea. aldomann2? | 13:15 |
| Inoki | I think it would be to our great benefit of having a person to act like a bridge between us and gnome. To talk everything through, latest stuff, even if it doesn't (yet) concern us. Just to stay informed and keep informend. | 13:16 |
| aldomann2 | no idea whatsoever | 13:16 |
| Inoki | Whatever would need to be done would be done via that person, who would be the communication channel with them. | 13:17 |
| amjjawad | Inoki, as always, the main issue is lack of manpower | 13:17 |
| amjjawad | that said, we need someone from us. | 13:17 |
| AuttoMatta | More like a external affairs person | 13:17 |
| AuttoMatta | an * | 13:18 |
| amjjawad | AuttoMatta, it is so hard to find that person. | 13:18 |
| AuttoMatta | Exactly. Hardly anybody considers that thing. | 13:18 |
| Inoki | Problem is we cannot function without a link like this. Now we can see, when we need to discuss stuff regarding our identity, that we cannot reach them and time's against us. | 13:18 |
| amjjawad | Inoki, we don't need that complication. KISS (Keep It Simple and Short). That said, we just need to be nice and polite with them, that's all. | 13:19 |
| amjjawad | We need someone from GNOME who work with them but he/she should be active. | 13:20 |
| aldomann2 | From the last reply in the e-mail (Allan Day): Thanks for keeping us in the loop, Alfredo! We're working on this ourselves - we've just got to get the legal side worked out. | 13:20 |
| amjjawad | aldomann2, when was that? | 13:21 |
| aldomann2 | two months exactly (29th of July) | 13:21 |
| amjjawad | O_o | 13:22 |
| amjjawad | WHAT? | 13:22 |
| amjjawad | then, as I suggested, we need to keep nagging and nagging :( | 13:22 |
| amjjawad | by nagging I mean keep sending to them. | 13:22 |
| AuttoMatta | Yes. Exactly why we need a sort of representative for permissions and stuff. | 13:22 |
| amjjawad | But let's be nice and polite, please. | 13:23 |
| Inoki | Having a representative with them would be nice and no nagging would be needed, but ok. | 13:25 |
| AuttoMatta | Sometimes the label do have a certain weight on people, you see. If @aldomann2 would have introduced himself as a External Affairs Manager or some sort, he would have gotten more attention possibly. | 13:28 |
| aldomann2 | idk, I really think they are looking into it | 13:28 |
| Inoki | Anyway, we need to get a final response and stress to them, that we are shortly before a release (!). | 13:28 |
| AuttoMatta | ^ Yes | 13:29 |
| aldomann2 | judging from the e-mail Patrik sent us, they seem to have quite a bunch of issues with their trademark and legal stuff | 13:29 |
| Inoki | What we think we know and what is reality are different things. | 13:29 |
| Inoki | But with this logo we are doing them a favour. | 13:29 |
| aldomann2 | yes, that's our view | 13:29 |
| aldomann2 | but I would kinda understand if they were concerned about us usingit | 13:30 |
| aldomann2 | the problem is the following | 13:30 |
| Inoki | Someone should get in touch with them again and this time it should be someone in Ali's position, maybe even Ali. | 13:30 |
| aldomann2 | they WERE already okay with it | 13:30 |
| amjjawad | I don't think it is about roles and titles here. | 13:30 |
| amjjawad | aldomann2, is already a team-leader | 13:31 |
| amjjawad | a core member | 13:31 |
| aldomann2 | they should be okayer (pun intended) now that we have implemented all their feedback in the logo | 13:31 |
| amjjawad | Anyway, I might send them an email from my @gnome.org | 13:31 |
| amjjawad | aldomann2, can you please email me the name of the person to get contact with? | 13:31 |
| Inoki | that's what I'm talking about. You're also a Ubuntu member, maybe it counts, idk. | 13:31 |
| amjjawad | Inoki, I don't think so but no harm to try .. | 13:32 |
| aldomann2 | I'll send a new reply to the existing e-mail and include you in the CC | 13:32 |
| Inoki | We have to, we're short on time. | 13:32 |
| aldomann2 | sounds right? amjjawad | 13:32 |
| aldomann2 | ? | 13:32 |
| AuttoMatta | CC sounds right | 13:32 |
| amjjawad | aldomann2, perfect ;) | 13:33 |
| amjjawad | include both @ubuntu and @gnome :P hehe | 13:33 |
| Inoki | Send them also the link https://www.behance.net/gallery/25233455/Ubuntu-GNOME so they can see themselves if they haven't already. | 13:33 |
| amjjawad | #action aldomann2 to send https://www.behance.net/gallery/25233455/Ubuntu-GNOME to GNOME foundation CC amjjawad | 13:34 |
| meetingology | ACTION: aldomann2 to send https://www.behance.net/gallery/25233455/Ubuntu-GNOME to GNOME foundation CC amjjawad | 13:34 |
| aldomann2 | they already have the link | 13:35 |
| amjjawad | reminding is always good :D | 13:35 |
| amjjawad | don't you see when I send an email, I do remind people over and over again? | 13:36 |
| amjjawad | to re-program your unconscious mind, you do that with repeating over and over again | 13:36 |
| amjjawad | I must sleep | 13:41 |
| amjjawad | anything else to discuss? | 13:41 |
| aldomann2 | nope | 13:41 |
| Inoki | Nope | 13:41 |
| aldomann2 | anyway, e-mail sent | 13:42 |
| amjjawad | quickly, what happened to the website? :/ | 13:42 |
| aldomann2 | you should've gotten it already | 13:42 |
| aldomann2 | Gaurav has already a preview: http://demo.magikpress.com/ug/# | 13:42 |
| aldomann2 | he's trying to get the technical stuff about the hosting solved before moving on | 13:43 |
| amjjawad | I see. | 13:43 |
| amjjawad | #action amjjawad Inoki aldomann2 to discuss the new website later | 13:44 |
| meetingology | ACTION: amjjawad Inoki aldomann2 to discuss the new website later | 13:44 |
| amjjawad | I'll end this meeting (log). Many thanks :D | 13:44 |
| Inoki | Gonna be on Telegram, laters, and thanks | 13:44 |
| amjjawad | #endmeeting | 13:45 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Sep 29 13:45:04 2015 UTC. | 13:45 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-gnome/2015/ubuntu-gnome.2015-09-29-12.30.moin.txt | 13:45 |
| amjjawad | we can share the link later on the main mailing list | 13:45 |
| amjjawad | must go now, many thanks .. was a great meeting .. | 13:45 |
| amjjawad | Cya ZzZz | 13:45 |
| aldomann2 | cya, brother | 13:46 |
| eliasps | Hi everyone | 16:24 |
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