[15:59] <mdeslaur> \o
[15:59] <pitti> o/
[16:00] <slangasek> oh; my clock on the desk is off, indicator madness
[16:01] <pitti> I haven't heard from infinity in a while, I guess he won't join today
[16:01] <slangasek> he's sent me his regrets privately
[16:01] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[16:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 29 16:01:39 2015 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:01] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Apologies
[16:02] <slangasek> Adam Conrad sends his regrets
[16:02] <mdeslaur> slacker
[16:02] <mdeslaur> ;)
[16:02] <slangasek> is everyone else here?
[16:02] <pitti> stgraber isn't yet
[16:02] <pitti> and kees
[16:03] <slangasek> so just the three of us, in fact
[16:03] <pitti> let's overthrow the world!
[16:03] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Action review
[16:03] <slangasek> * ACTION: slangasek to document maas, juju, docker exceptions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Special_Cases
[16:04] <slangasek> carried over, but getting close to the top of my todo list
[16:04] <slangasek> (I almost did it before this meeting, but this meeting snuck up faster than expected ;)
[16:04] <slangasek> * ACTION: pitti to update SRU policy amendment proposals and gather feedback
[16:04] <pitti> sent two weeks ago; kees sent +1, I haven't heard feedback from Adam
[16:05] <pitti> he said "if you don't hear from me by next meeting, consider it a silent agreement"
[16:05] <slangasek> ok
[16:06] <slangasek> I did raise the concern about whether we're going to see an increase in volume of requests for this kind of thing
[16:07] <slangasek> you said you considered that an "abuse", but to me it looks like a natural outcome of people acting according to the letter of the policy in good faith
[16:07] <slangasek> but I don't think we need to block on this
[16:07] <slangasek> * ACTION: infinity to review pitti's SRU policy amendments and +1/-1 on-list
[16:07] <slangasek> this one is superseded by events, I think?
[16:07] <pitti> if this results in backporting 5 new features every week, it's collectively too much noise/potential instability IMHO
[16:08] <pitti> i. e. if we can't keep up with verifying/reviewing any more
[16:08] <pitti> where "we" == SRU team
[16:08] <pitti> but I think this is a problem which we should address if/when we get it
[16:08] <pitti> in principle the same could happen for bug fixes
[16:08] <kees> \o
[16:08] <kees> sorry I'm late!
[16:08] <pitti> and in some cases there are SRUs which are over the top
[16:08] <pitti> hey kees!
[16:09] <pitti> but by and large it seems manageable
[16:09] <slangasek> stgraber, kees: hi there!
[16:09] <pitti> slangasek: superseded by events> according to what he told me, yes
[16:09] <slangasek> ok
[16:09] <pitti> and we can adjust it further, after all
[16:09] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Mailing list archive
[16:09] <stgraber> hello, sorry for being late
[16:09] <pitti> so should we go ahead with the SRU policy amendments?
[16:10] <slangasek> looks like the discussion was all about SRU policy this month, so that's fine
[16:10] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Community bugs
[16:10] <slangasek> [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard
[16:10] <slangasek> empty
[16:11] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Select a chair for the next meeting
[16:11] <slangasek> I believe the rotation is stgraber, with infinity as backup
[16:11] <slangasek> ?
[16:11] <pitti> right
[16:11] <stgraber> I think so yeah, note that I'll be at a sprint at the time though
[16:11] <stgraber> hopefully I won't be double-booked
[16:12] <slangasek> [INFO] Next meeting 2015-10-13, 17:00 London time. chair is stgraber, backup chair is infinity
[16:12] <slangasek> (hopefully that's right)
[16:12] <mdeslaur> I'll be on holiday, so I won't be attending
[16:13] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:13] <slangasek> anything else today?
[16:13] <kees> nothing from me
[16:13] <mdeslaur> nothing from me
[16:13] <pitti> do we need to vote on the SRU policy again, or do we have enough votes on teh ML?
[16:14] <pitti> I got +1 from everyone but Adam now, I think
[16:14] <slangasek> I think it's been ratified on the list
[16:14] <pitti> ack
[16:14] <pitti> so I'll update the policy and send it to u-d-a@
[16:15] <slangasek> [ACTION] pitti to update SRU policy wiki page and announce on u-d-a
[16:15] <meetingology> ACTION: pitti to update SRU policy wiki page and announce on u-d-a
[16:15] <slangasek> yay, a new action ;)
[16:15] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[16:15] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 29 16:15:34 2015 UTC.
[16:15] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2015/ubuntu-meeting-2.2015-09-29-16.01.moin.txt
[16:15] <pitti> lose 2, win 1 :)
[16:15] <slangasek> thanks, everyone!
[16:15] <pitti> thanks everyone
[16:15]  * pitti waves from Budapest
[16:16] <mdeslaur> thanks!
[16:17] <kees> cya!
[16:35] <pitti> slangasek: done/sent